The Brexit is rooted in the fact tht the Westminster only treated EU membership as a ticket to Common Market when EU itself is a diplomatic platform. De Gaulle is right; the UK should have never joined the EU in the first place.
@@themrpope4537 So you think it's ok to bargain with the border. That kind of kunt thinking is why the Backstop is in the withdrawal agreement. Because nobody trusts the English to do the right thing.
@@TheKingkeano Yes and i mean it would get Ireland out of the situation that we have walked into. but it would also reverse some of the issues that the leave voters are concerned about. in the current situation we are in its the best remain voters can hope for. You speak as if you are almost certain the adding the boarder to Ireland would be a bad thing or a reason to hate the English.
It would be wise to look at countries like Norway, Switzerland, Island, Ukraine, Montenegro a.o. to see which varieties of assosiations witht he EU and their direct neighbours exist, and which model has which advantages and disadvantages. Maybe the UK has a unique way, but having a lot of all benefits while excluding the parts you don't like will not happen. If the UK wants access to the market, EU law and open boarders for goods and services as well as trade agreements negotiated by the EU come with it. At least businesses will ahve to poroduce goods and service that apply to EU law, since they will be sold in the EU. So it gets actually more complicated since businesses already produce for EU regulations but if the UK has its own (maybe more open) regulations businesses might just stick to the EU regulation because two types of products might be just too expensive to produce, store, ship etc.
Who needs Sovereignty and democracy? Sod governing ourselves. Nice work FT. Brilliant bit of EU propaganda. God bless the Daily Remainer and those few and fewer who read or look at this twaddle.
From what i have seen it seems the pro-Brexit voters main concerns are: Budget cuts: With healthcare, wellfare, schools, basic services, emergency services, affordable housing, poor working conditions and stagnant wages/low minimum wage. None of these things are decided by the EU, it is decided by UK politicans. The EU mostly concern themselves about how many Parts Per Million of benzene allowed in food: And other technical details. Blaming the EU for this is pretty much the same as blaming the 'jews' for all the problems in society.
Well done. Somehow 27 Countries in EU saw this, russia, China, Canada and USA. We all warned that brexit was a dumb idea but ppl jumped on the far right wings buss
philippe K are you sure about America and Russia? Trump advocates it and the Russian government set up fake Twitter accounts advocating it, China has said didly squat about Brexit as far as I am aware and so has Canada, besides there are many more benefits than this propaganda video shows, and yeah, a country being small is not a reason that it’s not a good deal
+that_pac12 immigration. The U.K. Has asked, discussed with, implored and even pleaded with the eu to fix the migrant crisis and the eu has demonstrated only contemptible indifference. The British just decided they couldn't take the incompetence and abuse any longer.
+Kaiser Black the reason that everything we've voted against has passed is probably because we have UKIP as our MEPs and all they do is try to block legislation and insult everyone. Also, not everything we vote against passes, we voted against cutting carbon dioxide emissions to a level to reduce several thousand annual deaths, and that was successful.
+Science-Recon how dare UKIP stand up for our national interests! But then there in is the underlying issue: the eu's interests and the uk's interests are in conflict.
Leaving the EU was actually about getting deals with countries outside Europe and no longer incurring the expense and limitations of membership. This whole video portays a Britain helpless without the EU.
But as a member of the EU, you _have_ deals with countries outside Europe, negotiated with the bait of access to the EU market. I do understand how people can be wanting to leave the EU for many reasons, but I don't understand how the UK would be able to get better deals from a weaker position.
Britain wouldnt have a problem with the EU if it wasnt for the fact that hundreds of thousands of people come to this already overcrowded island each year, the hope of buying a house is now beyond the dreams of most average paid people. The demand for houses far exeeds surply. We need to remove people from Britain not keep letting more in like were doing now.
It's not a well known fact but the 17million of us who voted leave all got together one evening in the local village hall with a nice cup of tea and decided to vote leave so we could piss of the wealthy, politicians and give piss poor news outlets something to go on and on and on about instead of actually getting on with moving forward and working towards making a better life for everyone; after all moaning and whinging is far easier than getting off your arse and doing something positive.
My prediction: the UK wants to negotiate full trade of goods and services without free movement of workers and want to negotiate that *before* executing article-50. The EU however refuses to negotiate at all as long as the UK has not formally started article 50. The British Prime-minister will say that she fights hard in Brussels to prepare Brexit but all of her colleagues know she doesn't mind the delay. This stalemate will last and Brexit will forever be 'next year'. (until everyone kind of forgets about it)
***** I hope you are correct but I think it would be political suicide if they don't do it there would be the possibility of rioting from some of the people who voted to leave. But there again it is political suicide to enact it as the people who wanted to stay will get upset. The government have created a mess that is risking the stability of the UK.
***** I think the politicians on both sides of the argument lied to the people the leave side said they would stop EU immigrants entering the UK and competing with British people for jobs and housing and they would give the NHS an extra 350 million a week. Neither of these things are likely to happen. The stay side said the sky would fall if the UK leaves and there could be a world war. I think there is allot wrong with the EU but from an economic standpoint I think the UK is better off in than out as we are already beginning to see with the drop in the value of the pound.
Yes. They want to have the benefits without the responsibilities. And they want it guaranteed before they actually leave. Why exactly would the EU allow that? "You want all the good, none of the bad and you want all agreed before you activate article 50? Don't let the door hit you on the arse on the way out."
Since both options have already been rejected by Brussels, I don't understand why the government is even still working on them. (Customs Partnership and Maximum Facilitation). Brussels has made quite clear that neither are acceptable.
Well, they could present a plan that doesn't involve stupidity ( No Deal Better...) or arrogance ( You need us....). This is the Tories, we are talking about.
Mark, I thought it was the reverse, the two options were rejected by the UK because it didn't fit them. The Norway one because the UK doesn't like the free movement in that accord. And the Canada one because it wasn't preferential enough to the UK, right?
They still live in the fantasy world that created the whole Brexit disaster. If you just goes to Brussels, slam your fist on the table, wag your finger then the EU will get on their knees and give them all that they want. This is what they are hoping for with the new PM. See, the Brexit is not so bad when 27 nations kneel down and kiss your feet. The withdrawl agreement has made it clear that this is not reality, but brexiteers seem to think it is.
I think everyone is forgeting why the EU was created. Sure, I am too young and I don't know, exactly, how living during the World War 2 was, but I learned enough from books of history to know I don't want those times to come back. What UK is doing now is a huge mistake. Someone has commented "give it 5 years Germany will come out of the EU, as well". Do we want a divided EU? Where would that path lead to? Answer: WAR
I might be naive but why can't we just have single market plus small tariff and control our own borders? If we can trade freely with the rest of the world this might offset some of the extra cost and it wouldn't be as disruptive?
+Markus Socius A lot of those things are nothing to do with Brexit - and some of them are a valid cause of Brexit. And BTW I was a Remain voter - I'm annoyed at the way things are but I'm also the type who wants to see actual solutions put forward instead of constant negativity and moaning
Youre assuming that the UK has to fit one of these models.... it doesn't. The rules are there are no rules. The UK's biggest export is its world renowned legal, financial, and professional services. The UK is also a massive importer of goods from within the EU (17Billion Euros worth from Germany alone in the car sector). I rekon the UK will definitely be able to have their cake and eat it...... give that 5 years, then bring on a Germany exit.
I wish you a happy time in your bubble. It if was as easy as you say then the EU would have disintegrated a long time ago. Lets not forget, the EU lost one of its members but the family of 27 that are left will go on with their business and the UK will not be missed very much.....as the relationship between the EU and the UK has never been a loving one. Having said that, the UK will find its way...in its own time and i wish you all the best as good neighbours should do.
@@antoniob.9396 too bad that this member provided 10% of budget (even after discounts), 2nd largest economy, half of nuclear deterrence and permanent seat on UN Security Council and access to trade with all Commonwealth nations on preferential basis. Actually it is in interest of BOTH SIDES to smack each other as HARD as possible: UK to reorient to rest of the world, "where the action is" and EU to come down on Britain hard, to make their lives miserable as example for others. It is also in EU interest that largest anti-integration partner and American Tojan horse leaves at its own expense.
so Scotland wants to leave the UK because it doesn't like being overlooked by the English parliament....and want's to join the failed EU and then be ruled by Brussels....except they would never be allowed to join...Spain would be the first to veto them...full stop!!
WRONG. Spain will oppose Scotland independence. But once independent, they won't oppose EU membership. See the difference? They only need to make a reservation (like countries did a reservation, for example, to certain articles of the Convention on Immunities and Privileges of the UN): "the approval of membership does not mean or represent an approval of the self-determination principle, blablablabla". Done. And Spain is fully legally covered under international law. It is actually what Turkey did recently with the signature (this year) of the BEPS MLI (which was also signed by Cyprus): a reservation vis-a-vis Cyprus. I do hope you get the Hard Brexit. I really do. So by December 2020, the UK will cease to exist as it is now. Voting Brexit fo "recover our borders" and as result of that you lose Scotland. Monolingual brain-damaged baboons.
The model we'll get will be OUR OWN model. We're NOT comparable with any of the countries mentioned. We've a MASSIVE economy and that means MASSIVE clout in negotiations. We will get what the people voted for, that is total control of our borders and not linked to trade with the EU, free trade as now, no more contributions to the EU and supremacy of UK law. Those are our red lines. If the EU want to play silly buggers they will cause EVEN MORE unemployment on the continent. We need to be talking to big business in the EU to ensure this, because it is crucial to thems on the continent that free trade with the UK continues.
45% youth unemployment in Spain; 40% in Italy; the near total collapse of the Euro a few years ago. Which of these facts contribute to the bright future within the EU that so many people insist is so obvious?
The EU average is now 18% with Spain reducing from 55 to 43 and Italy down to 36%. Still not good enough but things have started to improve across the Eurozone. So let's take a leaf out of the Leavers book and be optimistic!
rather than cameron threatening ww3? funny how non of the media are grilling him for his obviously bs claims. youth unemployment is a serious issue and a valid point.
You forgot the Turkey model: membership of the customs union, but not of the single market. Pro: full access to the EU goods market, no hard border with the Republic of Ireland. Contra: the UK won’t be free to strike its own trade deals
the E.U. benefits big corporations who trade abroad. ( taking advantage of low wage slave labour ) 94% of British businesses do not trade abroad and are being strangled by E.U. red tape. 85% of trade is with the rest of the world outside the E.U. while Europe is only 15% of trade. on top of that the Britain is the biggest trader in Europe. ( we buy more from the E.U. then anyone else ) so the European countries can not do with out our business. ( we spend 90 billion euro's every year with Germany alone ) we can turn Britain into a business tax haven , because we can now control our own taxes. ( which we could not before under Brussel's dictatorship. most media are controlled by goverments and major corporations, because of the influence it has over the people's minds. so i would rather get the truth over the internet from across the world , then listen to a load of bull from the elite establishment who own newspapers.
Bullshit on your numbers. 44.6% of UK exports in 2014 were to the EU, and 53.2% of imports were from the EU. Please explain how that ties in with 85% of trade being non-EU. Or are you saying 85% of world trade is outwith the EU, and you don't mean UK trade at all. So Britain is somehow going to sell stuff to China and India that China and India can't produce more cheaply themselves?
Cars and coffee. If you honestly believe that more British cars will be sold in China in 10 years time than Chinese cars sold in the UK, you're off your rocker. And as for Coffee - most of the jobs from selling coffee in China will be in China. Articles about the new Costa roasting plant in Basildon notably don't seem to mention how many people will be employed there, but does say it's state of the art (which usually means heavily automated). How, if we're already selling cars and coffee to China is Brexit supposed to help? Especially as you picked two industries where we already have large sales in Europe, that are somehow not going to be affected?
Choice number 5 is the company car model, where you take what you are given, everyone argues that you shouldn't have any say at all because you work for them and not the other way around. The old clapped out bang model because as far as the EU in concerned we're the enemy that will them eat alive at the first opportunity and needs to be dealt with. Being a part of the EEC was one thing, but being part of a political union should include mutual support on military issues where an outsider is or is attempting to infringe on territorial sovereignty (which includes actual, threatened or hinted at invasion). They are not supposed agree to it in principle then treat you as a hostile nation that needs to be parcelled out in bits to anyone that shakes a stick in that direction. The problem is that the EU has needed reform for a while. The perception of the EU attitude to the UK has been hostile, fact or not, perceptions and PR are an important part of everyday life. Though blatant and inept propaganda attempts (Examples: trying to force everyone to speak Esperanto as a first language, as wel as rewriting history of WW2 to make it more "Europeanally relevant" as in focus on the resistance as if they fought the whole war on their own), and what you end up with it putting the UKs backs up. You certainly do not even hint at impanelling a commission to find ways to make article 50 illegal or irrelivant like the EU is some form of roach motel. YOu do not hand out leaflets telling illegal immigrants how to sneak into the UK and how to claim benefits when the get there, or blackmail the UK to do their blasted job! You do not allowed a mealy mouth politico to go unslapped by suggesting that the UK should take ALL refugees from Syria one week and call it an EU wide crisis in the next. And trying to tax any financial transactions in London directly is certainly not something the UK is going to view kindly. But when you add laws that have been voted down and blocked being forced on a people via unelected bureaucrats using loopholes, who else is a population to view those who do so, but with the highest levels of mistrust and nigh on hostility? The EU has had a long running PR disaster going on the UK it thought it could ignore by throwing "The Eu is inevitable" at suggestions there are problems or at the first hist we might leave some try to "snatch" territory (that has already told them to sod off) that they would like to own as if the UK would not go to war with them over it. The UK asked for reform, all we got in return was being ignored and derided then later told how to vote; topped off with the politicians now seemingly trying to dig us in deeper while calling it Brexit. At the first hint of trouble the knives came out and the ugly face of how the UK is thought off was brought into the light. There is more to a Union that cash, just like a marriage it takes trust and mutual support. Which was severely lacking, so all the UK felt was disconnection and hostility coming from continent. It's not rocket science.
International investment in Britain is up and employment is at an all time high and all this among all the dire warnings ,and London will still be one of the top financial centres. better to be masters of our own future than be a vassal state to a unelected European committee .
All options presented assume inevitability of Eurocentric trading arrangements and the inconceivability of any other options. The range of options the FT touts here are deliberately and artificially presented as monolithic alternatives to suggest that whatever we get will be worse than what we had before. To take a less fatalistic view there is no need to assume we have to model our trading arrangements on anything any other country has negotiated. We are not Norway, nor are we Canada or Switzerland so why should we trick ourselves into thinking we need to follow their limited economic models?
If the EU doen't make drastic reforms soon then I sincerely hope it collapses under its own weight asap as to avoid causing more distress to its citizens. As for Britain, I say we give the EU & its single market the finger & become totally independent.
Staying in EU was like living with family...and Britain was the most favourite member of the family. And this made Britain arrogant and he thaught he ran the family and he left. The family will be stable without one member. But the britain will be on its own out in the cold
I believe this to be an intellectually biased piece, BREXIT is not what I voted for, but it is clear to me that the FT is against BREXIT and has sacrificed balanced reporting.
There is nothing positive to say about Brexit. Maybe you have realised this by now. There is no Brexit dividend, nobody wants to free-trade with you, the Government still has no idea how the British model should look like - Brexit is an unmitigated disaster.
That's the trouble with tea and biscuits, while gaming. The biscuits go soft, the tea is full of ....stuff, and you don't get anywhere with the game. And spelling mistakes happen more.
Previously British citizens wanting to move to Europe had the right to live an work in other European countries. In many cases they even had access to medical and social services, and the right to vote in some elections. Whilst there is no certainty yet what agreements are going to be negotiated yet, it is probably the case that these rights will be withdrawn.
+thefencejumperengine fanatical much? I didn't vote when it came to Brexit. I'm an American. Sorry for attempting to learn about other cultures. Guess I'll go back to being ignorant of the outside world, because every time I try to fucking learn about it, political fanatics just yell at me. Have a nice day.
The UK is now free to negotiate it's own trade deals with the North America and have ever closer ties to our Anglo Saxon friends all over the world - I feel more kinship with America and Canada than Europe. The EU fanatics are worried, the dream of a super state to rival the USSR is crumbling, their economy and currency is weak. All Europe has ever needed is free trade within itself. It's madness to dictate ever greater union and open door immigration policies - thank God that so many Europeans are waking up to this madness and looking to secure their exit from the EU. The monsters Hollande and Merkel are due elections next year. For Europe's sake I hope they both lose - I have faith that the people of Germany and France will regain their senses and their national pride.
+ numerocro - We have NATO to prevent military conflict. We also have madmen like Guy Verhofstadt demanding an EU army which concerns me greatly. If anything the EU and Germany in particular recognising the independence of Slovenia and Croatia contributed to the Yugoslav war and courting Ukraine's EU membership resulted in the coup of a democratically elected government and the following conflict. The EU hasn't always acted in the best interests of peace, but instead for it's own interests. The EU was installed for good valid reasons. To prevent Franco German conflict, to be a trade strengthening Union, to act as a counter to Soviet expansion. But it's morphed into something different, a political union that disregards nation state democracy. It's not fit for purpose and it's suffocating it's members. Let it die and lets build a stronger Europe while respecting borders and cultures.
That's right folk, the EU Market is the only game in town. Nevermind every other country that isn't attached to Europe. But hey, why ruin a good piece of propaganda.
most of the fastest growing economies are not in europe, why hold nordic, lichtenstein, and eu models as paragons then? also the brexit itself would allow for more fishing and farming, as well as more starter manufacturers (due to less bureaucracy), wouldn't this make us more suited for canada's model?
So, in the end, it's again about xenophobia. I recommend the North Corean model then. Oh, and BTW, Norway has a sweet (for them, albeit unsolidary) deal, not having to contribute to the EU... yet, they have a brutal stance on immigration...
The question is not how the UK gets back in the EU. It's how the EU gets the UK to come back to the the EU they will trade with us after we leave we can get way better terms,read Donald Trump's book the art of the deal it will guide you through the process
Louis Hartley VAT's not really relevant, that applies to everyone who sells in the UK. Customs charges, well, we'll see how things develop in that area.
+Scott U except that both VAT and Customs charges are enforced by every party that we can elect and would still be enforced by the house of lords, a completely undemocratic system.
+Louis Hartley You what? I assume that if they impose customs & import tax charges, that a WE as in the voting public will make there views known and vote acordingly.. You see that is how a democracy work's, now I know people growing up within the EU seem to fail at grasping the fact that those who make the laws are accountable and can be removed from office.. You see that's the beauty of "full" accountability to the people they represent. Which is contradictory to every aspect of the EU!
No, you're not. You have 48% sane people, plus apparently some regrexiteers and a youth that suddenly woke up and gets interested in politics. The fix is the next GE. Until then, hang in there, not all is lost!
Doesn't this guy know that the EU makes up only 15% of global commerce. WTO is just trade rules (tariffs price ceiling) You can also lower your own tariffs to encourage free trade with whomever you want. So, instead of German steel, import US, China steel. UK is a net importer so EU will take a hit as well. On top of all that, US already stated they will negotiate a trade deal.. Just straight fearmongering. Put in a 2-3 year transition period and in that time negotiate trade deals with anyone you please and tap into that 85% of the global market.
Heh, how silly of me to think this channel was a bias financial "news" channel. I'll be showing myself the door, thank you. FYI: I heard of this thing called the FREE market model where you can trade goods or services to anyone, anywhere and the only deciding factor is the quality of your product/service.......but I may be mistaken. Oh wait, yeah Milton Freedmen talks of it greatly. You should know about him considering his Nobel prize for economics.
I've been trying not to respond to any comments as I've unsubscribed to the page but this, this I almost spewed my drink all over my keyboard. Are you really comparing Milton Freedman to Hitler? Other than them both have a Noble prize, Hitler Peace and Freedman Economics. Which Hitler received with the Nazi army behind him and Milton Freedman who received the Noble prize with no army behind him, just on the merit of his work. Look him up, hell you might need to do some research on both.
why would the WTO model be so bad. this video says its negatives but not the benefits it would have . Wouldn't it be better for exporters to non EU countries because of a lack of regulation. Perhaps less regulation would make exports more competitive and boost manufacturing jobs. would also lower prices in the long term to go WTO because of new EU tarrifs making goods cheaper, and boosting the economy. the WTO seems best option to ms
UK model. Full say over our own affairs, we come to an arrangement on trade with other countries or "blocs" on a case by case basis. Is what I'd do anyway.
problem is the UK has to take any deal it is given since it has no leverage on its own besides its not even sure the UK will leave the EU as long as article 50 isnt invoked the UK is too scared to invoke it though cus that means its only got 2 years left to negotiate a trade with the EU before being kicked out. Britain currently wants to negotiate before invoking article 50 but thats never gonna happen if the UK keep pissing in everyones backyard it might find itself invoking article 50 and find that the EU will only negotiate a week before the 2 year deadline is up in wich case britain will be forced to take said deal or risk having no trade agreement with the EU. Britain screwed up big time
***** Yea. The UK is an huge economic power. And not to forget that in all ways it's in the EUs best interests to keep on trading with the UK mostly like it is today. Money is money. And if EU does not get money it burns.
+Sebby !! do rememebr though that it was only due to it being easy access. if I have to go through weeks of dealing with visas and extra costs I'm not going to bother going out to Spain on holiday anymore and I doubt most will it's simply not worth the effort. it also kills weekend tourism, I can't count the times iv just popped to another eu country for a long weekend where as again dealing with weeks of visa means I'd have to take 2 weeks off work just to make it worth it so it's not worth it.
_"Leverage like being the 5th largest national economy"_ Haha! The clueless Muppet that you are doesn't even realise that Brexit has changed that. It's not official yet but the UK is going to lose one rank. It only takes a rate above 0.85 EUR/GDP for France to become larger in nominal terms. The current rate stands at 0.86 so it's only a matter a few months before that's reality. India is overtaking both France and the UK within the next 5 years. In any case, 5th for 3% of world output? That's some lousy 5th place!
They are now feeding me a video of Harry's face extra fat as if he put on lots of weight and didn't age well. They have no idea how glamorous I usually am. I was just going through a difficult phase and stuck home in pjs. Plus they stole all the contents in my house. Either way, I am unbothered either way. Why do they keep using Harry to insult me, when it is Gigi's reproductive system in question. Perhaps because they know Harry is my Shaka Zulu. Back to claim what is rightfully his. This thrown. "Nothing will never be As It Was" - Shaka Zulu. And I sit right by my Shaka as he rules. They keep betraying themselves by linking me to Harry. Not proof read - too long, it will disappear
People aways say it can't be done, until someone does it, we're not Norway, Liechtenstein or Switzerland. We are their biggest export market and they need us more than ever. I like this cake, good job I'm hungry.
@@clancywiggam most of that time was wasted by remainers trying to overturn the result. Now we have Brussels trying to delay. Your comment is like a last gasp of nonsense.
Who cares anyway? After the way the UK have been treated by the EU I cant see much trade being done with the EU countries and all this Single Market or Customs Union garbage wont be worth a pile of beans.
Walter Rudich.... Well, my friend you see it your way and we see it another way. To be honest you dont have to go far in the EU to see that all is not well. We see from our position a group of countries that have very little in common bar the fact that most resent the Commission and all feel hard done by. It was only when we decided to stop the nonsense of paying into a over burdened club which is basically a free pass to spent spend spend with no accounts since 1995.? Nice work if you can get it. Apart from that we have an imbalance in trade £80 billion at last count, which we could do better on if we traded across the world. The EU call that cherry picking we call it common sense. By the way the EU Commission acts and tries to push an agenda which hasnt been checked by the EU Parliament, on that we conclude that the Commission are pushing to stop trade with the UK and are putting in place the furniture to carry this out. We see this and therefore we come to the conclusion that we would have to do the same.? Its rather childish really but if the Commission are pushing and issuing threats then its reasonable to expect we do the same. So its best if we part not as enemies but friends with different destinations. The chances of significant trade has basically been destroyed.... by the EU. We can get over it easily but the EU cannot because its locked into this laborous civil service jobs worth negotiations mode with any country it deals with. We just make it easy to make deals. So good luck to you and as for me, I will miss my VW van and car when I change them but there are plenty of manufacturing car companies I can choose from which are equally as good but cheaper! Thats the EU flaw.... When you break it down... Its just a ponzi scheme!... It just wants everyone to keep paying not prospering.
I don´t know where you get your information from but who cares. The UK was the sick man of Europe before you joined. And I acknowledge that you want to go back to that point. To me this seems a prettty silly idea but once again - who cares.
Walter Rudich... Couldn't agree more. However you know and I know what happened. It took nearly 10 years to rid ourselves of "communists"in the workforce and the consequences of that ended up with many industries cutting manpower and destroying others forever. The strike record of the UK is lower now to the point where its very rare, unlike the heavily dependent manpower industries in the EU. Thats because the UK has moved into technology and away from the old industries. The problems that we face are the companies who are trying to kid the population that its all a disaster and yet these companies are going to find the old manufacturing is going to become difficult anyway. For example this country has said that all new cars built in the near future will be electric..... That means no Diesel, no Petrol, No Hybrids. None of the car makers over here are in a position to make electric cars. As for collaboration in aircraft the number of jobs lost would have been lost anyway.... The emerging long haul aircraft make the Euro aircraft industry redundant anyway. As for most other industries they come and go.Its the nature of business. But as I said before we dont care. The UK trade aspect with the EU is heavily in the EU's favour, so why would we put up with more of the same?
I´m afraid there is no other country stupid enough to make that bad deal with bilateral contracts/treaties. You pay into the EU budget like a EU Countrie, you have to follow EU law and you have to provide free movement of People, goods and money. What you don´t have is the right to have your chaps in the EU leadership. So the UK would only lose anyway. Why would they doe that ?
As pointed out, Switzerland - like every other EFTA country - quickly found out that just tariff-free trading with the single market was too much of a disadvantage. That's why the EFTA emptied out - members joined the EU or the EEA. Only Switzerland tried to fix everything by bilateral treaties, and that solution is deemed not viable anymore.
We could stop upgrading our trains now.... It was EU rules on disabled access that was about to kill off Pacer trains. They can now be kept too if you're so fond of the heritage of British Rail.
won't happen. every single European leader ruled out "freedom of goods/services but no freedom of movement" agreement. And they don't do it just because they're being a dick, it's basic principle of free market with four freedoms: Freedom of goods, freedom of services, freedom of capital, freedom of movement. You can't have two of them but not the other two, it just cannot work.
Spencer Duru Dude: "EU27 exports to UK" / "EU27 exports to the world" is 16% "UK exports to EU27" / "UK exports to the world" is 45% That's goods. Services is even worse. UK has no bargaining power whatsoever against EU. In fact, Merkel has big incentive to move financial center to Frankfurt + another incentive to ruin UK to make example for other EUskeptics. There is your real economics. Brexiters are living in a dreamland where UK is the most important country in the world or sth :)
these guys know that before the norway or canadian models they didnt exist so there are chances of i dont know other new ways of trade with the eu may happen like have done at least these two times ? or that companys would cut there losses and most would be able to change there trades into the country from out eu countrys who would offer better prices or better still for jobs decide again to make/ assemble the products in this country
better to be able to make your own laws and have proper democratic accountability than be part of this ever expanding United States of Europe. Who knows what they'll come up with in the future. An EU Army perhaps? We've already seen how the EU Politburo deals with its own Eurozone members when they get into economic difficulties. Pay the bankers or else! Principles are more important than money.
If you have to resort to terms like 'United States of Europe' or 'Politburo' then you've already lost the argument. FYI, the EU makes 13% of our laws. But then you'd know that, because the totally honest Leave campaign certainly never told everyone it was over 60%.
UK is the United States hahah it's ridiculous how deluded people are . Just look at the external debt doubled over the last 5 years . Look at the state of economy since 2008 . If people think some 8 bn pounds a year are going to go to support the economy where there are endless debt on Pfi deals and endless treasury bonds being sold to banks . It's not the EU who is the big elephant in the room it's UK politicians them self . If one thing happened here is that EU got rid of one loud , noisy kid called Britain
"Lost at sea"? Well, call it whatever you like, but Britain have just said *no* to the idea of trade our sovereignity for a trade previleges. Nice video though.
+the0rthopaedicsurgeon Your comment is so typical of those of elitist technocrats which the people just choose to defy. The author or you might be more educated than the average people who support the leave camp and arrogantly think that you know better. Thankfully in a democratic country, your voice is not louder than ours and we just find out that most people shared my view. So, yeah, that's that. Just leave if you don't like the result, it's not that difficult to get French or German passport. But if you choose to stick with this country, please respect our choice. Thank you.
Who are you to tell us what England's relationship with the USE should/could be ? As if Britain couldn't go it alone . Even if it is hard and we do suffer economically, I prefer that to the Orwellian Nightmare of the EU. put your toys back in the pram and stop squealing.
What do you mean "if" we suffer economically? Do you honestly believe the pound dropped to a 35 year low, and bank shares and airline shares all dropped dramatically because things are going to be peachy economically?
As it turned out the EU got the money, the house, the car, the dog, the kids and even the kitchen sink. UK should have taken negotiating seriously, the days of gunboat diplomacy are gone.
ah, whats the point of this video really? What has been set can not be reverse, I think the UK will finds its way to trade with others by establishing trade deals and making a pack not bas on any other previous model with the EU. The end
That is only one of the options. The more May boxes in her team (Scotland and NI have to be happy, there won't be a border in Ireland, etc.), the more it looks like the UK will go for the Iceland model.
+deschepper the reason why Iceland r in the Economic zone but not in the EU is because Iceland's application to join the EU was suspended. I don't think the EU governing body will allow the UK to do such thing
+deschepper and that will also mean free movement, the EU had make it clear that assess to the single market must means free movement of people and pay a contribution towards the EU
Regon William Wei Hsieh The EU would have no issue with the UK going into the EEA, it would basically mean that almost everything would continue as is, but the UK would no longer have a say in EU policy. And yes, EEA membership means free movement of labour (not people, but all EEA countries decline to make the distinction since it's really a lot of work for almost no benefit) and a significant monetary contribution. There is also no EU investment in non-EU EEA countries, but the UK would be able to negotiate trade deals (with some limits). It would be a preposterous outcome, of course, but it is increasingly what May looks like she's going for. She's making promises that the Brexiteers in charge can't keep unless they go for EEA membership. But they are just there to take the fall anyway.
we will not be punished but will have to trade ,we will not get everything we want simple as that Europe needs us as much as we need them.For Europe to reform Juunker and Hollande need to go
Could anybody explain to me the similarity between the UK's negotiating position and that of Lichtenstein? As the world's 5th largest economy, with hundreds of thousands of jobs in Germany alone at risk from a potential trade war, I can't help but think that our position will be slightly stronger than theirs. Am I missing something here?
Several things. First of all you are no longer the world's 5th largest economy since the referendum result. Second, your country is suffering a very serious economic and political crisis, it does not have a proper post brexit plan, which means that the EU is not going to look at you as if you were powerful or anything. Also the Article 50 is made to give the EU the upper hand. Third and more important, the priority for the EU at the moment is to survive and that means making an example out of the UK so to discourage other countries from following the same path. Also the chaos your country is in right now is already helping that, thank you. I'm also afraid to say that clearly the majority of people in the UK overestimated the influence and power of the UK in the world. Sorry guys, but the days of the Empire are long gone and some of you were clearly left behind.
Hundreds of thousands of jobs in Germany at risk? Where on earth do you get these figures from? Yes, the UK is an important buyers market for german goods but so are many other markets. Are you maybe refering to all the german cars sold in the UK? Do you really think that would trigger the loss of as you put it....HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF JOBS...? Which other goods from Germany are sold so strongly that the UK leaving will cause these hundreds of 1000's jobs to be lost? Come down to earth again! Germany, the EU will survive without the UK as will the UK...eventually...find a new way to deal with the EU and the rest of world. But one thing is for sure, in the short and medium term the UK will loose some of its economical power it had by being a strong member of the EU but leaving it...makes you just the UK...an outsider that now needs to renegotiate everyting from A-Z and that will take ages and will cost you lots of concessions! In the long run? I only hope the best for the UK but we shall see down the road in 15-20 years from now. One thing is for sure, you have a deeply divided nation and a government and opposition that are in tatters. It is YOUR government and your MP's that lost totally control and are out of touch with the people of the UK, this has nothing to do with the EU the people of the UK have just voted to leave. Your government and mp's allowed for a referendum to take place without assuring that both sides, the stay and the leave, make a campaign with real facts and not just utter lies.
ooh boy ..now uk just made really good "friends " all across Europe !:)) thus resulting the whole bunch just wanting to help out in uk getting the best agreement with E.U !..nooot :)))) forg ood or for bad big things r gonna happend, n uk residents wll find out 4 themselves ...for ten's of years to come fromn now "Du siehst den Wald vor lauter Bäumen nicht "
Hundreds of thousands of jobs in the UK are at risk too... And a bad deal will mean lots of highly paid jobs in London moving to Frankfurt or Luxembourg. I think the Germans will simply sell the cars elsewhere. After all, Nissan and Honda will be completely shafted in Europe as their only car production lines in the EU are in the UK.
Yes. We aren't 5th in the world, any more. We also managed to persuade the Financial Industries that we couldn't give a toss, so they have gone, or are going. Which is annoying, because about 20% of the Treasury's tax revenue comes from them, and associated industries.We are no longer invited to the top table, and are at very best second-rate in pretty much everything. except acts of national suicide. We got that down pat!
I like the drawing. leaving the EU with NO DEAL will be great. Just like when Singapore left the Malaysian union, they later prospered despite the fear mongering.
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The Brexit is rooted in the fact tht the Westminster only treated EU membership as a ticket to Common Market when EU itself is a diplomatic platform. De Gaulle is right; the UK should have never joined the EU in the first place.
Its true they never should have joined. They are not worth of it.
this sort of info should've been broadcasted BEFORE the referendum.
Do you think OUT voters read F.T? I doubt most can read anything other than picturebooks.
It was. It was also called 'scaremongering' by the hard of thinking or 'the people in this country have had enough of experts' by Pob.
In your world I am sure that slavery is a workable model......
No because a lot of this information is quite shit
+RTL and talk about being a bigot
Brexit it is Brexit, but no one knew what it was.
Now it has become clear : Brexit meant catastrophe.
congrats uk, you played yourself
jo23bulls so we have.
jo23bulls no, Canada model is best, we can bargain with the EU about services and a soft northern Irish border
@@themrpope4537 So you think it's ok to bargain with the border. That kind of kunt thinking is why the Backstop is in the withdrawal agreement. Because nobody trusts the English to do the right thing.
@@TheKingkeano Yes and i mean it would get Ireland out of the situation that we have walked into. but it would also reverse some of the issues that the leave voters are concerned about. in the current situation we are in its the best remain voters can hope for. You speak as if you are almost certain the adding the boarder to Ireland would be a bad thing or a reason to hate the English.
@@themrpope4537 Guess not.
It would be wise to look at countries like Norway, Switzerland, Island, Ukraine, Montenegro a.o. to see which varieties of assosiations witht he EU and their direct neighbours exist, and which model has which advantages and disadvantages. Maybe the UK has a unique way, but having a lot of all benefits while excluding the parts you don't like will not happen. If the UK wants access to the market, EU law and open boarders for goods and services as well as trade agreements negotiated by the EU come with it. At least businesses will ahve to poroduce goods and service that apply to EU law, since they will be sold in the EU. So it gets actually more complicated since businesses already produce for EU regulations but if the UK has its own (maybe more open) regulations businesses might just stick to the EU regulation because two types of products might be just too expensive to produce, store, ship etc.
Who needs Sovereignty and democracy? Sod governing ourselves. Nice work FT. Brilliant bit of EU propaganda. God bless the Daily Remainer and those few and fewer who read or look at this twaddle.
From what i have seen it seems the pro-Brexit voters main concerns are: Budget cuts: With healthcare, wellfare, schools, basic services, emergency services, affordable housing, poor working conditions and stagnant wages/low minimum wage. None of these things are decided by the EU, it is decided by UK politicans.
The EU mostly concern themselves about how many Parts Per Million of benzene allowed in food: And other technical details. Blaming the EU for this is pretty much the same as blaming the 'jews' for all the problems in society.
PincherMartyn you need to read more fool
Well done. Somehow 27 Countries in EU saw this, russia, China, Canada and USA. We all warned that brexit was a dumb idea but ppl jumped on the far right wings buss
You, sir, are an idiot!
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And yet, you can't refute him...
philippe K are you sure about America and Russia? Trump advocates it and the Russian government set up fake Twitter accounts advocating it, China has said didly squat about Brexit as far as I am aware and so has Canada, besides there are many more benefits than this propaganda video shows, and yeah, a country being small is not a reason that it’s not a good deal
Bogdan Florin but I bloody can
That was good. I really enjoyed it.
We came to trade it in because it's a piece of rubbish.
+that_pac12 privileged? Every measure we've voted against in the E.U. Has passed, I'm not feeling the privilege so greatly.
+that_pac12 immigration. The U.K. Has asked, discussed with, implored and even pleaded with the eu to fix the migrant crisis and the eu has demonstrated only contemptible indifference. The British just decided they couldn't take the incompetence and abuse any longer.
No Response? Guess that's what happens when you realize you're wrong lol
+Kaiser Black the reason that everything we've voted against has passed is probably because we have UKIP as our MEPs and all they do is try to block legislation and insult everyone. Also, not everything we vote against passes, we voted against cutting carbon dioxide emissions to a level to reduce several thousand annual deaths, and that was successful.
+Science-Recon how dare UKIP stand up for our national interests! But then there in is the underlying issue: the eu's interests and the uk's interests are in conflict.
Leaving the EU was actually about getting deals with countries outside Europe and no longer incurring the expense and limitations of membership. This whole video portays a Britain helpless without the EU.
But as a member of the EU, you _have_ deals with countries outside Europe, negotiated with the bait of access to the EU market. I do understand how people can be wanting to leave the EU for many reasons, but I don't understand how the UK would be able to get better deals from a weaker position.
Britain wouldnt have a problem with the EU if it wasnt for the fact that hundreds of thousands of people come to this already overcrowded island each year, the hope of buying a house is now beyond the dreams of most average paid people. The demand for houses far exeeds surply. We need to remove people from Britain not keep letting more in like were doing now.
We have fucked up ourselves. Instead of moving forward we are heading backwards. What are people expecting, the pounds to be replace by fish?
Norway says it had more immigrants then most but they taking Swedes as workers
It's not a well known fact but the 17million of us who voted leave all got together one evening in the local village hall with a nice cup of tea and decided to vote leave so we could piss of the wealthy, politicians and give piss poor news outlets something to go on and on and on about instead of actually getting on with moving forward and working towards making a better life for everyone; after all moaning and whinging is far easier than getting off your arse and doing something positive.
While obvs satire, I worry that this may turn out to be true!
As an exporter, the Norway model is slower and more expensive than the EU and Customs Union.
Choice #6: Join the United States of America as a state.
BladeRunner would not mind that. at least have freedom of speech guaranteed in a Constitution and the right to defend oneself.
FT gets it wrong again
I couldn´t see one item wrong. Please explain.
My prediction: the UK wants to negotiate full trade of goods and services without free movement of workers and want to negotiate that *before* executing article-50.
The EU however refuses to negotiate at all as long as the UK has not formally started article 50. The British Prime-minister will say that she fights hard in Brussels to prepare Brexit but all of her colleagues know she doesn't mind the delay.
This stalemate will last and Brexit will forever be 'next year'. (until everyone kind of forgets about it)
I don't think the politicians know what to do they never thought the leave side would win I doubt they will be in a hurry to trigger article 50.
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I hope you are correct but I think it would be political suicide if they don't do it there would be the possibility of rioting from some of the people who voted to leave. But there again it is political suicide to enact it as the people who wanted to stay will get upset. The government have created a mess that is risking the stability of the UK.
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I think the politicians on both sides of the argument lied to the people the leave side said they would stop EU immigrants entering the UK and competing with British people for jobs and housing and they would give the NHS an extra 350 million a week. Neither of these things are likely to happen. The stay side said the sky would fall if the UK leaves and there could be a world war. I think there is allot wrong with the EU but from an economic standpoint I think the UK is better off in than out as we are already beginning to see with the drop in the value of the pound.
Yes. They want to have the benefits without the responsibilities. And they want it guaranteed before they actually leave. Why exactly would the EU allow that? "You want all the good, none of the bad and you want all agreed before you activate article 50? Don't let the door hit you on the arse on the way out."
+David Reynolds So, the Brits Are looking for a wham-bam-thank-you-ma'am relation with the EU? I Don't think the EU Will warm up for that..
Since both options have already been rejected by Brussels, I don't understand why the government is even still working on them. (Customs Partnership and Maximum Facilitation). Brussels has made quite clear that neither are acceptable.
Mark Chaplin Because they have no idea what they are doing. They are lacking in any kind of competency.
Well, they could present a plan that doesn't involve stupidity ( No Deal Better...) or arrogance ( You need us....). This is the Tories, we are talking about.
Mark, I thought it was the reverse, the two options were rejected by the UK because it didn't fit them. The Norway one because the UK doesn't like the free movement in that accord. And the Canada one because it wasn't preferential enough to the UK, right?
Thersea May is no leader. that's why.
They still live in the fantasy world that created the whole Brexit disaster. If you just goes to Brussels, slam your fist on the table, wag your finger then the EU will get on their knees and give them all that they want. This is what they are hoping for with the new PM. See, the Brexit is not so bad when 27 nations kneel down and kiss your feet. The withdrawl agreement has made it clear that this is not reality, but brexiteers seem to think it is.
Germany will not want a bad, spiteful deal with the UK....the EU needs to grow up and deal with the fact that the UK will leave....
I think everyone is forgeting why the EU was created.
Sure, I am too young and I don't know, exactly, how living during the World War 2 was, but I learned enough from books of history to know I don't want those times to come back.
What UK is doing now is a huge mistake.
Someone has commented "give it 5 years Germany will come out of the EU, as well".
Do we want a divided EU? Where would that path lead to? Answer: WAR
‘If you COULD accept free movement’ well done you just destroyed your point about no negatives
Trade is not important when you are victim of crime, censorship, and high taxes.
I might be naive but why can't we just have single market plus small tariff and control our own borders? If we can trade freely with the rest of the world this might offset some of the extra cost and it wouldn't be as disruptive?
I didn't say we did - just trying to think of alternatives - try to be more positive please
+Markus Socius A lot of those things are nothing to do with Brexit - and some of them are a valid cause of Brexit. And BTW I was a Remain voter - I'm annoyed at the way things are but I'm also the type who wants to see actual solutions put forward instead of constant negativity and moaning
If we can trade freely with the rest of the world. There's your problem, right there.
I want my world back from before Brexit and Trump. The Anglosphere has clearly gone completely bonkers.
I think the problem is the election systems and law systems that were inherited from the good old UK are are very out of date.
"Lucrative" - 20 or 40 bln deficit in trade with EU?
WRONG - for if the EU model was the best then it wouldn't have been rejected - duh !!
Because Putin's FSB hired the UKIP to brainwash you?
Youre assuming that the UK has to fit one of these models.... it doesn't. The rules are there are no rules. The UK's biggest export is its world renowned legal, financial, and professional services. The UK is also a massive importer of goods from within the EU (17Billion Euros worth from Germany alone in the car sector). I rekon the UK will definitely be able to have their cake and eat it...... give that 5 years, then bring on a Germany exit.
I wish you a happy time in your bubble. It if was as easy as you say then the EU would have disintegrated a long time ago. Lets not forget, the EU lost one of its members but the family of 27 that are left will go on with their business and the UK will not be missed very much.....as the relationship between the EU and the UK has never been a loving one. Having said that, the UK will find its way...in its own time and i wish you all the best as good neighbours should do.
+Antonio B. All good points.
@@antoniob.9396 too bad that this member provided 10% of budget (even after discounts), 2nd largest economy, half of nuclear deterrence and permanent seat on UN Security Council and access to trade with all Commonwealth nations on preferential basis. Actually it is in interest of BOTH SIDES to smack each other as HARD as possible: UK to reorient to rest of the world, "where the action is" and EU to come down on Britain hard, to make their lives miserable as example for others. It is also in EU interest that largest anti-integration partner and American Tojan horse leaves at its own expense.
i think the worst thing about brexit is that scotland might break away ruining that beautiful flag.
so Scotland wants to leave the UK because it doesn't like being overlooked by the English parliament....and want's to join the failed EU and then be ruled by Brussels....except they would never be allowed to join...Spain would be the first to veto them...full stop!!
WRONG. Spain will oppose Scotland independence. But once independent, they won't oppose EU membership. See the difference? They only need to make a reservation (like countries did a reservation, for example, to certain articles of the Convention on Immunities and Privileges of the UN): "the approval of membership does not mean or represent an approval of the self-determination principle, blablablabla". Done. And Spain is fully legally covered under international law. It is actually what Turkey did recently with the signature (this year) of the BEPS MLI (which was also signed by Cyprus): a reservation vis-a-vis Cyprus. I do hope you get the Hard Brexit. I really do. So by December 2020, the UK will cease to exist as it is now. Voting Brexit fo "recover our borders" and as result of that you lose Scotland. Monolingual brain-damaged baboons.
The model we'll get will be OUR OWN model. We're NOT comparable with any of the countries mentioned. We've a MASSIVE economy and that means MASSIVE clout in negotiations. We will get what the people voted for, that is total control of our borders and not linked to trade with the EU, free trade as now, no more contributions to the EU and supremacy of UK law. Those are our red lines. If the EU want to play silly buggers they will cause EVEN MORE unemployment on the continent. We need to be talking to big business in the EU to ensure this, because it is crucial to thems on the continent that free trade with the UK continues.
Enjoyed watching it, but as entertainment only, seemed to be missing reality.
That was ridiculous. The way he talked about brexiteers, "that wont keep immigrants out". FT really are a mere shadow of its former self.
4 years later the trickle of immigrants has become a flood. Because the UK no longer benefits of the EU Lisbon Treaty.
3:25 why did you have to mention it it still upsets me 😭😭
45% youth unemployment in Spain; 40% in Italy; the near total collapse of the Euro a few years ago. Which of these facts contribute to the bright future within the EU that so many people insist is so obvious?
The EU average is now 18% with Spain reducing from 55 to 43 and Italy down to 36%. Still not good enough but things have started to improve across the Eurozone. So let's take a leaf out of the Leavers book and be optimistic!
Unfortunately that's due to the 1500% rise in youth suicide.
Well done, the dexterity of your argument does you and the Leave case a huge credit!
rather than cameron threatening ww3? funny how non of the media are grilling him for his obviously bs claims. youth unemployment is a serious issue and a valid point.
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I was joking, but being serious: what case? The case was made; we voted to leave the obvious shambles that is the EU.
We will have the British model. The EU will WANT to trade with the UK, but we don't really need the EU since every other continent is growing faster.
*uk, but i agree
6 years later the "British Model" has become one of shortages (people and goods), increased prices, continued austerity, food banks, etc ...
You forgot the Turkey model: membership of the customs union, but not of the single market.
Pro: full access to the EU goods market, no hard border with the Republic of Ireland.
Contra: the UK won’t be free to strike its own trade deals
It is nothing like that, though. Unless you consider the Turkish attitude to the Kurds. And that's not a nice image.
the E.U. benefits big corporations who trade abroad. ( taking advantage of low wage slave labour )
94% of British businesses do not trade abroad and are being strangled by E.U. red tape.
85% of trade is with the rest of the world outside the E.U.
while Europe is only 15% of trade.
on top of that the Britain is the biggest trader in Europe. ( we buy more from the E.U. then anyone else )
so the European countries can not do with out our business. ( we spend 90 billion euro's every year with Germany alone )
we can turn Britain into a business tax haven , because we can now control our own taxes. ( which we could not before under Brussel's dictatorship.
most media are controlled by goverments and major corporations, because of the influence it has over the people's minds.
so i would rather get the truth over the internet from across the world , then listen to a load of bull from the elite establishment who own newspapers.
Bullshit on your numbers.
44.6% of UK exports in 2014 were to the EU, and 53.2% of imports were from the EU. Please explain how that ties in with 85% of trade being non-EU.
Or are you saying 85% of world trade is outwith the EU, and you don't mean UK trade at all. So Britain is somehow going to sell stuff to China and India that China and India can't produce more cheaply themselves?
Cars and coffee.
If you honestly believe that more British cars will be sold in China in 10 years time than Chinese cars sold in the UK, you're off your rocker.
And as for Coffee - most of the jobs from selling coffee in China will be in China. Articles about the new Costa roasting plant in Basildon notably don't seem to mention how many people will be employed there, but does say it's state of the art (which usually means heavily automated).
How, if we're already selling cars and coffee to China is Brexit supposed to help?
Especially as you picked two industries where we already have large sales in Europe, that are somehow not going to be affected?
Choice number 5 is the company car model, where you take what you are given, everyone argues that you shouldn't have any say at all because you work for them and not the other way around. The old clapped out bang model because as far as the EU in concerned we're the enemy that will them eat alive at the first opportunity and needs to be dealt with.
Being a part of the EEC was one thing, but being part of a political union should include mutual support on military issues where an outsider is or is attempting to infringe on territorial sovereignty (which includes actual, threatened or hinted at invasion). They are not supposed agree to it in principle then treat you as a hostile nation that needs to be parcelled out in bits to anyone that shakes a stick in that direction.
The problem is that the EU has needed reform for a while. The perception of the EU attitude to the UK has been hostile, fact or not, perceptions and PR are an important part of everyday life. Though blatant and inept propaganda attempts (Examples: trying to force everyone to speak Esperanto as a first language, as wel as rewriting history of WW2 to make it more "Europeanally relevant" as in focus on the resistance as if they fought the whole war on their own), and what you end up with it putting the UKs backs up.
You certainly do not even hint at impanelling a commission to find ways to make article 50 illegal or irrelivant like the EU is some form of roach motel. YOu do not hand out leaflets telling illegal immigrants how to sneak into the UK and how to claim benefits when the get there, or blackmail the UK to do their blasted job! You do not allowed a mealy mouth politico to go unslapped by suggesting that the UK should take ALL refugees from Syria one week and call it an EU wide crisis in the next. And trying to tax any financial transactions in London directly is certainly not something the UK is going to view kindly. But when you add laws that have been voted down and blocked being forced on a people via unelected bureaucrats using loopholes, who else is a population to view those who do so, but with the highest levels of mistrust and nigh on hostility?
The EU has had a long running PR disaster going on the UK it thought it could ignore by throwing "The Eu is inevitable" at suggestions there are problems or at the first hist we might leave some try to "snatch" territory (that has already told them to sod off) that they would like to own as if the UK would not go to war with them over it. The UK asked for reform, all we got in return was being ignored and derided then later told how to vote; topped off with the politicians now seemingly trying to dig us in deeper while calling it Brexit. At the first hint of trouble the knives came out and the ugly face of how the UK is thought off was brought into the light.
There is more to a Union that cash, just like a marriage it takes trust and mutual support. Which was severely lacking, so all the UK felt was disconnection and hostility coming from continent. It's not rocket science.
How about a UK model - which says that the EU can access our single market if we can access theirs, but without free movement of people etc.
International investment in Britain is up and employment is at an all time high and all this among all the dire warnings ,and London will still be one of the top financial centres.
better to be masters of our own future than be a vassal state to a unelected European committee .
Project Untruths the UK is crashing Pound is down, economy is tanking.
All options presented assume inevitability of Eurocentric trading arrangements and the inconceivability of any other options. The range of options the FT touts here are deliberately and artificially presented as monolithic alternatives to suggest that whatever we get will be worse than what we had before. To take a less fatalistic view there is no need to assume we have to model our trading arrangements on anything any other country has negotiated. We are not Norway, nor are we Canada or Switzerland so why should we trick ourselves into thinking we need to follow their limited economic models?
Japan? Singapore? South Korea? They all seem to do reasonably well trading with the EU from outside the single market...
If the EU doen't make drastic reforms soon then I sincerely hope it collapses under its own weight asap as to avoid causing more distress to its citizens. As for Britain, I say we give the EU & its single market the finger & become totally independent.
You didnt get the meaning of the video did you now?
Staying in EU was like living with family...and Britain was the most favourite member of the family. And this made Britain arrogant and he thaught he ran the family and he left. The family will be stable without one member. But the britain will be on its own out in the cold
His norwegian pronunciation was superb. I was impressed
I believe this to be an intellectually biased piece, BREXIT is not what I voted for, but it is clear to me that the FT is against BREXIT and has sacrificed balanced reporting.
There is nothing positive to say about Brexit. Maybe you have realised this by now. There is no Brexit dividend, nobody wants to free-trade with you, the Government still has no idea how the British model should look like - Brexit is an unmitigated disaster.
sorry option number 5 showed this is nothing but post-referendum propaganda
You´d be lucky to have it back!
Stop being sad losses and move on.
That's the trouble with tea and biscuits, while gaming. The biscuits go soft, the tea is full of ....stuff, and you don't get anywhere with the game. And spelling mistakes happen more.
So it looks like a choice between the 'Fantasy Island Unicorn Model' or the 'Hotel California Model'
The Remainers should all move to Germany.
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That would be awesome. As a German I like that idea. :-)
They can't. Like you, they are about to lose that right.
Claudio LP to travel to EU countries? I don’t understand you lot thinking we are all of sudden going to lose all contact to EU counties
Previously British citizens wanting to move to Europe had the right to live an work in other European countries. In many cases they even had access to medical and social services, and the right to vote in some elections. Whilst there is no certainty yet what agreements are going to be negotiated yet, it is probably the case that these rights will be withdrawn.
Why should they? They are, after all, the ones who wanted to "remain". Bit of a clue, right there.
what if UK attempted to create something similar to the EU, but with more nationalistic countries such as the USA and a few others.
Read your history books.
+carole wilson comment meant for first poster
+thefencejumperengine fanatical much? I didn't vote when it came to Brexit. I'm an American. Sorry for attempting to learn about other cultures. Guess I'll go back to being ignorant of the outside world, because every time I try to fucking learn about it, political fanatics just yell at me. Have a nice day.
The UK is now free to negotiate it's own trade deals with the North America and have ever closer ties to our Anglo Saxon friends all over the world - I feel more kinship with America and Canada than Europe. The EU fanatics are worried, the dream of a super state to rival the USSR is crumbling, their economy and currency is weak. All Europe has ever needed is free trade within itself. It's madness to dictate ever greater union and open door immigration policies - thank God that so many Europeans are waking up to this madness and looking to secure their exit from the EU. The monsters Hollande and Merkel are due elections next year. For Europe's sake I hope they both lose - I have faith that the people of Germany and France will regain their senses and their national pride.
+ numerocro - We have NATO to prevent military conflict. We also have madmen like Guy Verhofstadt demanding an EU army which concerns me greatly.
If anything the EU and Germany in particular recognising the independence of Slovenia and Croatia contributed to the Yugoslav war and courting Ukraine's EU membership resulted in the coup of a democratically elected government and the following conflict. The EU hasn't always acted in the best interests of peace, but instead for it's own interests.
The EU was installed for good valid reasons. To prevent Franco German conflict, to be a trade strengthening Union, to act as a counter to Soviet expansion. But it's morphed into something different, a political union that disregards nation state democracy. It's not fit for purpose and it's suffocating it's members. Let it die and lets build a stronger Europe while respecting borders and cultures.
That's right folk, the EU Market is the only game in town.
Nevermind every other country that isn't attached to Europe. But hey, why ruin a good piece of propaganda.
most of the fastest growing economies are not in europe, why hold nordic, lichtenstein, and eu models as paragons then?
also the brexit itself would allow for more fishing and farming, as well as more starter manufacturers (due to less bureaucracy), wouldn't this make us more suited for canada's model?
Hey, enjoying your brexit?
So, in the end, it's again about xenophobia. I recommend the North Corean model then. Oh, and BTW, Norway has a sweet (for them, albeit unsolidary) deal, not having to contribute to the EU... yet, they have a brutal stance on immigration...
The question is not how the UK gets back in the EU. It's how the EU gets the UK to come back to the the EU they will trade with us after we leave we can get way better terms,read Donald Trump's book the art of the deal it will guide you through the process
I wouldn't say the WTO model is that much worse. We'd have a tariff of 3.5% instead of 0%...
Except it's also prone to customs charges and VAT. Customs charges are usually around 10% and VAT is 20%. So not that cheap.
+Louis Hartley It's only prone to import & vat if the Democraticly elected government WE choose impose it! See democracy at work? Funny that ehh!
Louis Hartley VAT's not really relevant, that applies to everyone who sells in the UK. Customs charges, well, we'll see how things develop in that area.
+Scott U except that both VAT and Customs charges are enforced by every party that we can elect and would still be enforced by the house of lords, a completely undemocratic system.
+Louis Hartley You what? I assume that if they impose customs & import tax charges, that a WE as in the voting public will make there views known and vote acordingly.. You see that is how a democracy work's, now I know people growing up within the EU seem to fail at grasping the fact that those who make the laws are accountable and can be removed from office.. You see that's the beauty of "full" accountability to the people they represent. Which is contradictory to every aspect of the EU!
So we're fcked
No, you're not. You have 48% sane people, plus apparently some regrexiteers and a youth that suddenly woke up and gets interested in politics. The fix is the next GE. Until then, hang in there, not all is lost!
In a BIG WAY
I would call this a correct assessment of the situation.
You are. So relax, take some pop**** and some lube and enjoy the ride. Just think of... Britain. Because the world won't be gentle with you.
So, we're fucked.*
Doesn't this guy know that the EU makes up only 15% of global commerce. WTO is just trade rules (tariffs price ceiling) You can also lower your own tariffs to encourage free trade with whomever you want. So, instead of German steel, import US, China steel. UK is a net importer so EU will take a hit as well. On top of all that, US already stated they will negotiate a trade deal.. Just straight fearmongering. Put in a 2-3 year transition period and in that time negotiate trade deals with anyone you please and tap into that 85% of the global market.
Heh, how silly of me to think this channel was a bias financial "news" channel. I'll be showing myself the door, thank you. FYI: I heard of this thing called the FREE market model where you can trade goods or services to anyone, anywhere and the only deciding factor is the quality of your product/service.......but I may be mistaken. Oh wait, yeah Milton Freedmen talks of it greatly. You should know about him considering his Nobel prize for economics.
heah, mic drop moment. ^^
_"I'll be showing myself the door, thank you"_
Don't come back!
I've been trying not to respond to any comments as I've unsubscribed to the page but this, this I almost spewed my drink all over my keyboard. Are you really comparing Milton Freedman to Hitler? Other than them both have a Noble prize, Hitler Peace and Freedman Economics. Which Hitler received with the Nazi army behind him and Milton Freedman who received the Noble prize with no army behind him, just on the merit of his work. Look him up, hell you might need to do some research on both.
+LexiDaddy jesus christ fam it was sarcasm (albeit true). Take a chill pill
really wish someone would come up with a sarcasm font. I do apologize but in my defense, have you seen the comment section?
why would the WTO model be so bad. this video says its negatives but not the benefits it would have . Wouldn't it be better for exporters to non EU countries because of a lack of regulation. Perhaps less regulation would make exports more competitive and boost manufacturing jobs. would also lower prices in the long term to go WTO because of new EU tarrifs making goods cheaper, and boosting the economy. the WTO seems best option to ms
UK model. Full say over our own affairs, we come to an arrangement on trade with other countries or "blocs" on a case by case basis. Is what I'd do anyway.
problem is the UK has to take any deal it is given since it has no leverage on its own besides its not even sure the UK will leave the EU as long as article 50 isnt invoked the UK is too scared to invoke it though cus that means its only got 2 years left to negotiate a trade with the EU before being kicked out. Britain currently wants to negotiate before invoking article 50 but thats never gonna happen if the UK keep pissing in everyones backyard it might find itself invoking article 50 and find that the EU will only negotiate a week before the 2 year deadline is up in wich case britain will be forced to take said deal or risk having no trade agreement with the EU. Britain screwed up big time
It has no leverage. Leverage like being the 5th largest national economy. But hey, what does money mater when buying things?
***** Yea. The UK is an huge economic power. And not to forget that in all ways it's in the EUs best interests to keep on trading with the UK mostly like it is today. Money is money. And if EU does not get money it burns.
+Sebby !! do rememebr though that it was only due to it being easy access. if I have to go through weeks of dealing with visas and extra costs I'm not going to bother going out to Spain on holiday anymore and I doubt most will it's simply not worth the effort. it also kills weekend tourism, I can't count the times iv just popped to another eu country for a long weekend where as again dealing with weeks of visa means I'd have to take 2 weeks off work just to make it worth it so it's not worth it.
_"Leverage like being the 5th largest national economy"_
Haha! The clueless Muppet that you are doesn't even realise that Brexit has changed that. It's not official yet but the UK is going to lose one rank. It only takes a rate above 0.85 EUR/GDP for France to become larger in nominal terms. The current rate stands at 0.86 so it's only a matter a few months before that's reality.
India is overtaking both France and the UK within the next 5 years. In any case, 5th for 3% of world output? That's some lousy 5th place!
They are now feeding me a video of Harry's face extra fat as if he put on lots of weight and didn't age well.
They have no idea how glamorous I usually am. I was just going through a difficult phase and stuck home in pjs. Plus they stole all the contents in my house.
Either way, I am unbothered either way. Why do they keep using Harry to insult me, when it is Gigi's reproductive system in question. Perhaps because they know Harry is my Shaka Zulu. Back to claim what is rightfully his. This thrown. "Nothing will never be As It Was" - Shaka Zulu. And I sit right by my Shaka as he rules.
They keep betraying themselves by linking me to Harry.
Not proof read - too long, it will disappear
Let the UK go...their mind is already in Africa, trading...and in all the countries the City of London bankers forgot about all this past years...
no we're not
WHY THE FUCK WOULD U LEAVE!!! THANKS FOR MAKING US ALL BROKE BRITISH PEOPLE
No deal ...? What does thst look like?
An interesting, but predictable view, of remaining slaves to an unelected ruled group.
No mention of the Swiss model ?
The EU doesn't want a 2nd Swiss Model, too complicated.
Brexit has caused so many problems. Can they have just left it how it was.
People aways say it can't be done, until someone does it, we're not Norway, Liechtenstein or Switzerland. We are their biggest export market and they need us more than ever. I like this cake, good job I'm hungry.
Have you tried Piriton? That helps with many allergies. Not sure if it helps if one is allergic to facts and figures, though.
Look at that, nothing has changed in 4 years. What a waste of time and money for everybody. Thanks Brexiteers.
@@clancywiggam most of that time was wasted by remainers trying to overturn the result. Now we have Brussels trying to delay. Your comment is like a last gasp of nonsense.
@@iBlagg8 Always someone else's fault. Poor Britain, so hard done by.
@@clancywiggam We got the deal we wanted, we've escaped, cheerio
Who cares anyway? After the way the UK have been treated by the EU I cant see much trade being done with the EU countries and all this Single Market or Customs Union garbage wont be worth a pile of beans.
Bad EU! How could you go unimpressed by UK threats, blackmail and shameless cherry-picking! The Empire isn´t used to be confronted with reality!
Walter Rudich.... Well, my friend you see it your way and we see it another way. To be honest you dont have to go far in the EU to see that all is not well. We see from our position a group of countries that have very little in common bar the fact that most resent the Commission and all feel hard done by. It was only when we decided to stop the nonsense of paying into a over burdened club which is basically a free pass to spent spend spend with no accounts since 1995.? Nice work if you can get it. Apart from that we have an imbalance in trade £80 billion at last count, which we could do better on if we traded across the world. The EU call that cherry picking we call it common sense. By the way the EU Commission acts and tries to push an agenda which hasnt been checked by the EU Parliament, on that we conclude that the Commission are pushing to stop trade with the UK and are putting in place the furniture to carry this out. We see this and therefore we come to the conclusion that we would have to do the same.? Its rather childish really but if the Commission are pushing and issuing threats then its reasonable to expect we do the same. So its best if we part not as enemies but friends with different destinations. The chances of significant trade has basically been destroyed.... by the EU. We can get over it easily but the EU cannot because its locked into this laborous civil service jobs worth negotiations mode with any country it deals with. We just make it easy to make deals. So good luck to you and as for me, I will miss my VW van and car when I change them but there are plenty of manufacturing car companies I can choose from which are equally as good but cheaper! Thats the EU flaw.... When you break it down... Its just a ponzi scheme!... It just wants everyone to keep paying not prospering.
I don´t know where you get your information from but who cares. The UK was the sick man of Europe before you joined. And I acknowledge that you want to go back to that point. To me this seems a prettty silly idea but once again - who cares.
Walter Rudich... Couldn't agree more. However you know and I know what happened. It took nearly 10 years to rid ourselves of "communists"in the workforce and the consequences of that ended up with many industries cutting manpower and destroying others forever. The strike record of the UK is lower now to the point where its very rare, unlike the heavily dependent manpower industries in the EU. Thats because the UK has moved into technology and away from the old industries. The problems that we face are the companies who are trying to kid the population that its all a disaster and yet these companies are going to find the old manufacturing is going to become difficult anyway. For example this country has said that all new cars built in the near future will be electric..... That means no Diesel, no Petrol, No Hybrids. None of the car makers over here are in a position to make electric cars. As for collaboration in aircraft the number of jobs lost would have been lost anyway.... The emerging long haul aircraft make the Euro aircraft industry redundant anyway. As for most other industries they come and go.Its the nature of business. But as I said before we dont care. The UK trade aspect with the EU is heavily in the EU's favour, so why would we put up with more of the same?
Errr, Switzerland?
between norway & lichtenstein. That deal is considered has "should not be definitive" and "not gonna sign this anymore".
I´m afraid there is no other country stupid enough to make that bad deal with bilateral contracts/treaties.
You pay into the EU budget like a EU Countrie, you have to follow EU law and you have to provide free movement of People, goods and money.
What you don´t have is the right to have your chaps in the EU leadership.
So the UK would only lose anyway.
Why would they doe that ?
As pointed out, Switzerland - like every other EFTA country - quickly found out that just tariff-free trading with the single market was too much of a disadvantage. That's why the EFTA emptied out - members joined the EU or the EEA. Only Switzerland tried to fix everything by bilateral treaties, and that solution is deemed not viable anymore.
The only positive thing I can see is Britain nationalising its railways
We could stop upgrading our trains now....
It was EU rules on disabled access that was about to kill off Pacer trains. They can now be kept too if you're so fond of the heritage of British Rail.
As long as nobody infirm wants to use them.
A dying Newspaper for people with more money than sense...
ofcourse the best option isn't in this drawing. Free trade and nothing else.
won't happen. every single European leader ruled out "freedom of goods/services but no freedom of movement" agreement. And they don't do it just because they're being a dick, it's basic principle of free market with four freedoms: Freedom of goods, freedom of services, freedom of capital, freedom of movement. You can't have two of them but not the other two, it just cannot work.
It can't work unless you have an idea about real economics. Germany would never allow tariffs, it'd be suicide for merkel lol
Spencer Duru Dude:
"EU27 exports to UK" / "EU27 exports to the world" is 16%
"UK exports to EU27" / "UK exports to the world" is 45%
That's goods. Services is even worse. UK has no bargaining power whatsoever against EU. In fact, Merkel has big incentive to move financial center to Frankfurt + another incentive to ruin UK to make example for other EUskeptics. There is your real economics. Brexiters are living in a dreamland where UK is the most important country in the world or sth :)
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That'd be the Canada model. Which is a free trade agreement
these guys know that before the norway or canadian models they didnt exist so there are chances of i dont know other new ways of trade with the eu may happen like have done at least these two times ? or that companys would cut there losses and most would be able to change there trades into the country from out eu countrys who would offer better prices or better still for jobs decide again to make/ assemble the products in this country
Thank you🙏 EU.
Voted to leave and still soooo happy about it! :) Just wish they'd hurry up and get on with it!
LOL
This video should be called "Why Brexit is stupid and the UK made a horrible mistake in under 5 minutes."
Why did you draw all seeing eye at 0:11?
better to be able to make your own laws and have proper democratic accountability than be part of this ever expanding United States of Europe. Who knows what they'll come up with in the future. An EU Army perhaps? We've already seen how the EU Politburo deals with its own Eurozone members when they get into economic difficulties. Pay the bankers or else! Principles are more important than money.
If you have to resort to terms like 'United States of Europe' or 'Politburo' then you've already lost the argument.
FYI, the EU makes 13% of our laws. But then you'd know that, because the totally honest Leave campaign certainly never told everyone it was over 60%.
the0rthopaedicsurgeon can you think of another term to describe an unelected bureaucracy passing laws?
***** the elected European parliament that cant make laws is not a real parliament, just a talking shop.
UK is the United States hahah it's ridiculous how deluded people are . Just look at the external debt doubled over the last 5 years . Look at the state of economy since 2008 . If people think some 8 bn pounds a year are going to go to support the economy where there are endless debt on Pfi deals and endless treasury bonds being sold to banks . It's not the EU who is the big elephant in the room it's UK politicians them self . If one thing happened here is that EU got rid of one loud , noisy kid called Britain
Which we have always had. And as for the Pay the Bankers line - how is that working in Austerity UK?
Why are comments disabled on your video against Trump?
Too much American Stupidity on one page can break the internet.
How about making entirely new model.
Join the comon market, without alowing free border,
congraz, you dont understand free market one bit
"Lost at sea"? Well, call it whatever you like, but Britain have just said *no* to the idea of trade our sovereignity for a trade previleges.
Nice video though.
Yeah. nice video guy with degrees and PhDs from Oxford and Harvard, but what do you know.
+the0rthopaedicsurgeon Your comment is so typical of those of elitist technocrats which the people just choose to defy.
The author or you might be more educated than the average people who support the leave camp and arrogantly think that you know better. Thankfully in a democratic country, your voice is not louder than ours and we just find out that most people shared my view.
So, yeah, that's that.
Just leave if you don't like the result, it's not that difficult to get French or German passport. But if you choose to stick with this country, please respect our choice. Thank you.
Which is silly, as our sovereignty was never in doubt. Until The Leavers sold it to Russia
Crayon Sukrou Why should the remainers leave? It´s the other way round.
What does anyone know about anything?
Who are you to tell us what England's relationship with the USE should/could be ?
As if Britain couldn't go it alone .
Even if it is hard and we do suffer economically, I prefer that to the Orwellian Nightmare of the EU.
put your toys back in the pram and stop squealing.
are there any EU laws in particular that you oppose? or is it the fear of EU immigration?
What do you mean "if" we suffer economically?
Do you honestly believe the pound dropped to a 35 year low, and bank shares and airline shares all dropped dramatically because things are going to be peachy economically?
The Orwellian Nightmare exists. Not in the EU, as such, but it exists.
Brexit is beyond a joke
Brexit or what we use to call Divorcee 😃😄😅😆😉
As it turned out the EU got the money, the house, the car, the dog, the kids and even the kitchen sink. UK should have taken negotiating seriously, the days of gunboat diplomacy are gone.
90 seconds in already a lie lol
Only in the minds of those who have very poor memories, or a hatred of numbers and dates
Guess what - the BEST model is crap.
ah, whats the point of this video really? What has been set can not be reverse, I think the UK will finds its way to trade with others by establishing trade deals and making a pack not bas on any other previous model with the EU. The end
That is only one of the options. The more May boxes in her team (Scotland and NI have to be happy, there won't be a border in Ireland, etc.), the more it looks like the UK will go for the Iceland model.
+deschepper the reason why Iceland r in the Economic zone but not in the EU is because Iceland's application to join the EU was suspended. I don't think the EU governing body will allow the UK to do such thing
+deschepper and that will also mean free movement, the EU had make it clear that assess to the single market must means free movement of people and pay a contribution towards the EU
Regon William Wei Hsieh The EU would have no issue with the UK going into the EEA, it would basically mean that almost everything would continue as is, but the UK would no longer have a say in EU policy.
And yes, EEA membership means free movement of labour (not people, but all EEA countries decline to make the distinction since it's really a lot of work for almost no benefit) and a significant monetary contribution. There is also no EU investment in non-EU EEA countries, but the UK would be able to negotiate trade deals (with some limits).
It would be a preposterous outcome, of course, but it is increasingly what May looks like she's going for. She's making promises that the Brexiteers in charge can't keep unless they go for EEA membership. But they are just there to take the fall anyway.
+deschepper we will see them
When the Brits are on to something, they usually take over everything including the comments section. Funny..
I just LOVE the drawing.
Remainer Guff🤬
no mention of the sixth option which is still being written, ne more mind controlling rubbish like this and unsubbed is the probable option
As per normal the FT get it completely wrong hahahahahahaha
Really? It seems pretty accurate to me, Britain can't even get this first part of the deal done. It doesn't know what it wants. Still.
we will not be punished but will have to trade ,we will not get everything we want simple as that Europe needs us as much as we need them.For Europe to reform Juunker and Hollande need to go
How long is the trope going to continue? They don't need us that much.
You will lose your job? Maybe you should ask the Brexit Clowns.
I watched this for the drawings
I was more intrested in the drawing than what the guy was saying..
That´s the clue of visualisation. Even idiots get the message.
Could anybody explain to me the similarity between the UK's negotiating position and that of Lichtenstein?
As the world's 5th largest economy, with hundreds of thousands of jobs in Germany alone at risk from a potential trade war, I can't help but think that our position will be slightly stronger than theirs. Am I missing something here?
Several things. First of all you are no longer the world's 5th largest economy since the referendum result. Second, your country is suffering a very serious economic and political crisis, it does not have a proper post brexit plan, which means that the EU is not going to look at you as if you were powerful or anything. Also the Article 50 is made to give the EU the upper hand. Third and more important, the priority for the EU at the moment is to survive and that means making an example out of the UK so to discourage other countries from following the same path. Also the chaos your country is in right now is already helping that, thank you. I'm also afraid to say that clearly the majority of people in the UK overestimated the influence and power of the UK in the world. Sorry guys, but the days of the Empire are long gone and some of you were clearly left behind.
Hundreds of thousands of jobs in Germany at risk? Where on earth do you get these figures from? Yes, the UK is an important buyers market for german goods but so are many other markets. Are you maybe refering to all the german cars sold in the UK? Do you really think that would trigger the loss of as you put it....HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF JOBS...? Which other goods from Germany are sold so strongly that the UK leaving will cause these hundreds of 1000's jobs to be lost? Come down to earth again! Germany, the EU will survive without the UK as will the UK...eventually...find a new way to deal with the EU and the rest of world. But one thing is for sure, in the short and medium term the UK will loose some of its economical power it had by being a strong member of the EU but leaving it...makes you just the UK...an outsider that now needs to renegotiate everyting from A-Z and that will take ages and will cost you lots of concessions! In the long run? I only hope the best for the UK but we shall see down the road in 15-20 years from now. One thing is for sure, you have a deeply divided nation and a government and opposition that are in tatters. It is YOUR government and your MP's that lost totally control and are out of touch with the people of the UK, this has nothing to do with the EU the people of the UK have just voted to leave. Your government and mp's allowed for a referendum to take place without assuring that both sides, the stay and the leave, make a campaign with real facts and not just utter lies.
ooh boy ..now uk just made really good "friends " all across Europe !:)) thus resulting the whole bunch just wanting to help out in uk getting the best agreement with E.U !..nooot :)))) forg ood or for bad big things r gonna happend, n uk residents wll find out 4 themselves ...for ten's of years to come fromn now "Du siehst den Wald vor lauter Bäumen nicht "
Hundreds of thousands of jobs in the UK are at risk too... And a bad deal will mean lots of highly paid jobs in London moving to Frankfurt or Luxembourg.
I think the Germans will simply sell the cars elsewhere. After all, Nissan and Honda will be completely shafted in Europe as their only car production lines in the EU are in the UK.
Yes. We aren't 5th in the world, any more. We also managed to persuade the Financial Industries that we couldn't give a toss, so they have gone, or are going. Which is annoying, because about 20% of the Treasury's tax revenue comes from them, and associated industries.We are no longer invited to the top table, and are at very best second-rate in pretty much everything. except acts of national suicide. We got that down pat!
I like the drawing. leaving the EU with NO DEAL will be great. Just like when Singapore left the Malaysian union, they later prospered despite the fear mongering.