Honest Moments in Rugby!
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Biggar told Raynal that he didn’t get it down because otherwise the TMO would have checked to see if he was on side at the initial interception (which he wasn’t) meaning they would be defending a line out in their 22 or a kick at goal rather than a scrum five in irelands half … not commendable for « sportsmanship » but more for the intelligence of Biggar
Went straight to the comments to say this. Spotted it during the game and was pretty sure that's what he was at and then Sexton said it in an interview and laughed about it. Both Sexton and Bigger have incredible rugby brains, tactically steps ahead of everyone else.
Good point
If you’re right that Bigger was offside then the video ref should have come in and made that call anyway.
And if you’re right, then you’re correct in saying it’s not sportsmanship. It’s gamesmanship, which is a penalty offence in itself under the law book. And no that is all to often ignored.
Doesnt look ofside in this video
@@graemenawn the line out has already finished in the video, and he’s already 2m ahead of his teammates …
6:56 loved this moment between Gardner and Perenara. 😂
"oh yeah, that's a good point". Funny as
Could anyone write what the player said ? I'm not familiar with this accent (where's it from by the way) and didn't get a word.
@@Jimba93
“Yeah, see, that’s fine...“
“... you didn’t tap the ball...“
“... so why is it their ball? It’ll still be our penalty wouldn’t it.“
“... uh...“
“I didn’t tap the ball. Still our penalty.“
“That’s a that’s a fair point, yeah. Yeah.“
Player is from New Zealand.
it's not shown in this clip but the commentator actually said "give the whistle to TJ, please!"
@@kurtjetson1284 Thank you so much!
We all know why Biggar was honest in the first clip tho 😂😂
Yep haha
Explain please! 🙏🏻
@@lorenzosada7950 he was offside when he intercepted it so instead of it going to the Tmo and Ireland getting the penalty up the field it was a 5 meter scrum
It's a shame Mike Phillips wasn't so honest when he cheated against Ireland that time
@@rugbyleedslufc6575 let it go hahaha! That was like a decade ago!
Another excellent video, Andrew. It's good to see that, in these examples at least (Biggar's offsite aside) the ethos of the game seems to be alive and well, despite the professional era. But it begs a question: how on earth do you do this? Do you catalogue and cross reference every aspect of every game on video that you can get your hands on? How??? Just, how??? I mean, HOW????....
I appreciate you putting the clip of Austin Healy saying that "you don't get players doing that anymore" halfway through the video of players doing that.
He was complaining about it too 🤦🏻♂️
But then Healy is a twat
No his point was that now that it is a goalline dropout for being held up over the line, players may not tell the refs they were held up. Back when you still got an attacking scrum for held up over the line there was more incentive, now the defending side can boot the ball back over your heads before you're ready.
Commentators really do tell on themselves when they say "oh, what's happened there?" - well, if you'd stopped wittering on for five minutes, you and your audience would've heard the change in call and the reason for it.
The amount of times commentators just talk over the referees when it’s clear the viewing audience is better off hearing the ref
"Yeah, Thats a fair point" will always be a top ref moment for me 😂
Soccer players should be sat down and shown this. Anytime there's a decision on the soccer pitch the ref is bombarded by both teams it's sad to watch
Football refs aren't as utterly pathetic as Rugby Union refs. Rugby Union refs are the utter dregs of sport
@@mrf1019 sorry but if any refs are the "dregs of sport" or "utterly pathetic" it football refs not Rugby refs who are in fact the best refs of any sport
@@mrf1019 please explain because as a rugby referee of 14 yrs I'd love to know.
@@edwardhuggins84 “Best refs of any sport”
On paper. In reality it’s nothing like that.
What a spectacular vid Mr Forde it lifts my spirits standing up and saying it weren’t touched down and the refs sayin I made a mistake well done again for this compilation fella!
I used to referee, and if I made an obvious gaffe (ie blowing the whistle early, calling a player as being offside when they blatantly weren’t), I would just apologise and restart with a scrum.
9/10 the players would just go ‘fair enough, cheers ref’. On the 1/10 where they kicked off I’d just say ‘everyone on the pitch today has made a mistake, I’m only human’.
At the end of the day, every player at every level makes mistakes in every game. Referees will too
I read once that the origin of the term 'referee' was to an off-field referral process. Originally it was down absolutely to the players to practice honesty and integrity (own up to their wicked sinning ways, full of lung and righteousness) and the referral process was used only to deal with otherwise difficult decisions. I have to presume that referral process was final. It would have been slow, leading eventually to the on-field ref with a whistle: the final implement to replace first the halberd, then the axe, then the club, then the feather duster which was a developmental process led forcefully by mothers with time to waste, i.e., before Valium. Had Merlin invented fibreglass they may have stayed with the double-bladed version to resolve outbreaks of continental behaviour.
Love from Oz.
Yep we've all been there
@@peterclark6290 It was an onfield process. Both captains carried lawbooks, (such as they were) in their pockets and discussed points of contention using the lawbooks as a reference
@@williamorchard16 Nice, another story to tell the newbies. Fits in with those pictures of players wearing suit jackets. Cheers. Any links?
So you did exactly what the laws say you’re supposed to do?
I really like videos about what makes rugby so great, be that skill, physicality or skulduggery. There is always room for the ethos of the sport to be displayed too. Cheers Fordey!
Players in rugby cheat so often that they had to come up with a new word to make it sound more acceptable. It’s now called “gamesmanship” even though we all know what it really means.
2:30 and that's why he's the captain of the Springboks. Few men has the honesty and fierce loyalty he has.
It was nice to see the honesty from two players, then the thanking for the honesty from the opposition.
Should be shown to all teams to show proper gamesmanship, and respect.
*Billy V admits to losing the ball*
Robshaw: Good honesty
Farrell (despite it not having anything to do with him) : Thank you
😂 😂 😂 😂 😂
I had to rewind a couple times as I couldn't believe what I was seeing and hearing... then my suspicions were confirmed, Farrell had nothing to do with any of that honesty hahaha!
loved this video, so good to see. was a bit shocked at the first being dan bigger though :P
great sportsmanship all round!every prem footballer and ref should be made to watch this to remind them what sport is about
Siya was always going to be in this.
As he should be!
Luke Pearce showing his quality here. Really like his refereeing.
Siya captain, my captain.
Honesty is always commendable, however the question always gets asked: " will they have done the same thing for us?"
Doesn't matter if they do the same for us. I'd rather lose honestly than win by cheating. Siya did the right thing.
@@Karma-qt4ji True. But you do get the instances when dishonesty could bring the glory. England has still not forgiven Campese for the "deliberate" knockdown in the 1991 finals. In NZ Bakkies had charged down a kick by the scrum half and the guy pulled him back by the jersey, thus gaining an advantage to get t the ball first. Richie McCaw was always borderline and at times a blatant cheat.
What a poor attitude
@@thembibaardman538 I remember the Bakkies thing, and I seriously doubt that Jimmy Cowan ever held back another player hahahahaha.
Still don't believe that we should stoop to that level though. Also highly doubt Siya ever would.
Great vid mate - thanks for making and sharing it! It's another demonstration why rugby is so much better than soccer imho 👍
The ref is in charge in rugby and the players act like adults. When they act like kids the ref tells them off. Best respect game in the world.
Siya Kolisi👏🏾
Biggar's a genius 😂😂😂😂😂
I read once that the origin of the term 'referee' was to an off-field referral process. Originally it was down absolutely to the players to practice honesty and integrity (own up to their wicked sinning ways, full of lung and righteousness) and the referral process was used only to deal with otherwise difficult decisions. I have to presume that referral process was final. It would have been slow, leading eventually to the on-field ref with a whistle: the final implement to replace first the halberd, then the axe, then the club, then the feather duster which was a developmental process led forcefully by mothers with time to waste, i.e., before Valium. Had Merlin invented fibreglass they may have stayed with the double-bladed version to resolve outbreaks of continental behaviour.
Love from Oz.
After reading the comments I am surprised there is so little support for Rugby refs. Think about it: 30+ testosterone-charged, cortisol-infused, dehydrated, bruised alpha males trying to batter each other in a game originally designed for single and early double-digit boys, with a set of arcane Laws that would make your favourite philosopher blanch and head off to Italy to learn how to sail, played at a speed we mere mortals only achieve if we chose a life of crime. with anywhere from one to three billion critics, all Cyclops from birth, on your back and they walk off with a couple of dozen handshakes to a review process that always fails them (you missed that, you were in the wrong position for that, etc.) and they come back a week later for more. We select the best from the best and we should be proud of them. Then there's God, now retired in Wales, who was always 'straighter than that'.
Dan Biggar was half a mile offside when he intercepted! 🤣🤣
“Some agricultural language” 😂😂😂
Always told the truth to the referee, the amount of benefit of the doubt & 50/50 calls that go your way when you’ve got a truth giving rapport with the ref.
That's union. #Joue
Why's the compilation so short then?
@@TW-ks3pn I'm going to assume you're joking here? Surely, you are not suggesting that Fordey create a compilation of every single time in the game of rugby union there has been a moment of honesty? I doubt he has the bandwidth for such an undertaking and his loyal subscribers have the time to view such a compilation in one sitting, or the hunger to do so. A bizarre statement to say the least
Andy, I know footage would be sticky, but could you ever do a Non Evans retrospective? She wore the Welsh jersey in multiple sports (can anyone give a list?), but has never had the accolades she deserved. I met her on the Kilvey Hill run, where she encouraged and the utterley trounced all of us!.
This is great from the players.
Watching all these clips a word kept popping up in my head. “Dignity”. Sadly lacking in football today where each player seems to want to outcheat the others.
It Proves That Rugby Is A HOOLIGANS SPORT Played By GENTLEMEN
@Jay M stick to football
😁Of course! Captain Siya Kolisi would never be dishonest.
Football players learn from these gentlemen
they need this in the nba nhl and footy. I think it's sick the amount of crying they let the players do
Do a video on best pre game captains speeches
A gentleman's game.
never seen a french ref admit to their countless mistakes
Wonder how many similar Incidents have occurred in Football matches.
Wow 😮
Cool
You would never see Stuart Hogg owning up to dropping a ball in the try zone. He celebrates, knowing damn well he dropped the ball and thinks they won't check, or hope they won't check the "try" with the TMO
For those who need proof, here is 1 example
ruclips.net/video/MPKCC9gEvAc/видео.html
@@dougthedynamo
ruclips.net/video/MPKCC9gEvAc/видео.html
Watch him celebrate with his teammates
I love the fact someone replied saying Hogg didn't celebrate after his drop against Ireland and asks for proof, I give it and then the post gets removed 🤣
You wouldn’t see most doing it…
@@iBMRaGiNBuLLz you're right but I have never seen someone do it as boldly as Hogg
The commentator is blind, Hadleigh Parkes and henshaw made the initial tackle not earls back to specsavers for him
Guess Dan just wanted to be the Biggar man...
The second one - surely it was about the 9 being a country mile offside, not whether he’d touched the ball or not!? At least 2 of his teammates look offside too to me, but 9 is blatantly so.
Could anyone explain what happened at 6:42? Why is he not allowed to tap the ball with his foot and, if he didn't, why is it still their penalty instead of a try?
You have to tap the ball with your foot to restart play from a penalty. As it had missed his foot the try wasn't valid, but because it hadn't touched his foot, he technically hadn't taken the penalty therefore nothing had changed.
I don't know when in any American professional sports I have heard a ref admit a mistake on the field with the players. How much more respect will you get if you can talk with the players and then get it right. Maybe someone can point me to a moment like that, but I don't remember one.
Biggar conning the officials
TJ Perenara lmao
Good clips - please add some subtitles to explain what’s going on/going to happen
First one wasn’t honest. It was sneaky
2:09 did Horne still go off?
He was getting subbed
😂😂😂😂
What is the deal with not tapping the ball? Looks to me like it's at the back of a scrum, or something. Why should he have to tap the ball in the first place?
The scrum ended with a penalty awarded to the team in posession. The scrumhalf intended to take the penalty quickly by tapping the ball with his foot.
4:47 should have been a penalty against black 11. Playing the ball when on the ground. Sadly we’ve forgotten that Rugby is a game played on your feet
Your can play the ball in that situation the ball is loose. So therefore there is no ruck, scrum or maul so therefore the player can handle the ball.
@@GarethT902 If they’re on their feet.
@@stevenmcalister826 a loose ball is open play you don't have be on your feet. Provided that you then immediately either. Pass it, place it or stand up.
Ref it wasn't a try....and I don't want to blow my 1-12 margin bet.
Wow, we need some of the refs in rugby league to take a leaf out of these ref's books.
No point in playing a game if you are not honest.
In the case of elite/pro sport, that's blatantly untrue. Lance Armstrong is still worth 50 million. Belichick and Brady still have all their superbowl rings.
Sadly, all of the incentives are set up to favour results over honesty. For me, the buck stops with the fans. They'll only get as much honesty as they demand.
I don’t know what the problem is with Irish commentators but they never stop talking when the referee is speaking. It has driven me mad for the past couple of years, they just drone on and on totally oblivious to the ref saying something that we would like to hear.
I have no problem refs admitting when they are wrong....
the real problem is they rarley do
Bit boring
Great comment
@@chaz.92 thanks Chaz you Anonymous social warrior
@billywilliamson836 no the video