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I wanted a little more background on what kept the bully group together, I understand how they were a clique in high school but I find it amazing they would all still be together decades later and that the dynamics of the group have not changed or evolved. And then, for Kyung-ran, who was the victim after Dong-eun to also be still in this circle of psychopaths didn't make any sense.
For me it does makes sense that the bully group stayed together. Yeon-Jin, Sa-ra and Jae-joon where in the same social circle, they were horrible people who knew each other for years and didn’t need to pretend, also they kind of see each other as equals. Myeong-oh probably knew that in no way he could live the fancy live style if he was not with Jae-Joon, he practically did nothing and could spend a lot of money or at least pretend that he had a lot of money. Hye-Jeon is a little tricky because she could leave the group without a problem but she wanted to climb the social ladder I think she could have done it alone but the group give her status. What I think it doesn’t make a lot of sense is the girl they use to bully. But I agree that it would be great to see why they stayed together.
I was kind of puzzled about the romance myself. Ha Doyong is a young wealthy handsome and good hearted doctor. I'm sure he wasn't lacking in female attention. I was wondering why he was obsessed with this gloomy woman who barely gave him the time of day. I just assumed he connected with her as another damaged soul.
I agree. I felt the puppy romantic interest character was poorly written and unrealistic even for a Kdrama. I wonder if he wasn’t developed much because they are setting up a Season 2 about his revenge against his father’s murder. The romance felt forced to me. I loved Hyeonam even though she was a little unrealistically skilled
what i loved the doctor, every time he was on screen i wanted to see more of him. I personally also loved the romance it brings some fresh air that it needed in the show
One thing that I notice after the glory is how the Korean society views School Assault, Attempt murder, harassment, mental/ physical harm as " Bullying." they need to change the Name to Assault cause almost all of them can lead to someone to end themselves.
I actually got why the doctor was like that. She was what he wanted to be. (Rather than what he wanted to date.) And I liked their scenes. But I’m an older woman, and the only men I like are pretty puppy dogs.
I just want epilogue about the doctor and Ha Doyoung's background. Who they were as they are right now. I think writer-nim didn't really explore enough. My first thought the doctor would also be a Psychopath who kinda obsessed with Dong-eun. He likes how Dong-eun is a great mastermind of her own revenge strategy as he's her GO' s teacher. And why Doyoung killed Yesol 's biological father? I mean he would end up be blind anyway🤷 it feels out of character. He's very meticulous and doesn't like to make his hands dirty 🙄
Saying it was a hand-holdy drama but they didnt explain the romance part. They showed it. He practiced stabbing a man at his home every night. He got daily letters from his father’s killed and kept a drawer of knives. Mans was ready to pop and Dong-un was the tiny needle needed for him to release his crazy. I thought it was obvious. He was pinning for her because he was unstable. I think this showed through in how everyone who watched described him “basic male lead” “puppy dog love interest”. In reality his character was set up to be a knight but as they said in the park, he turned out to be an executioner. They took the basic puppy dog male lead and had him wear it as a mask. Poor guy hallucinated the killer following him around everyday!😭 he actually tried therapy for years and the only thing that helped was Dong-un. I feel like so many forgot the details of the show
I think the second part had a lot of unanswered questions for me and that is why I hope there is a season 2 especially because I want to see how the situation with the doctors father being murdered by the patient who has been incarcerated may somehow be connected with main character. I may be wrong but a season 2 is definitely needed.
I skipped your spoilers Danny because I haven't watched part 2 yet but I totally agree with you on the romance element of it. Totally unnecessary. It's like the writer thought she's a strong woman but we need to involve a love interest to show she can be soft and vulnerable. Like bruh.🙄
The romance element makes in the part 2 way more sense. It isn't about being soft and vulnerable, it makes her more human PLUS shows an other perspective about the pain and humiliation they went through and nobody else could understand.
@@annie2588 well, I've just started part 2 so I'm open to being wrong about the romance subplot. I just thought the romance was a convenience because the series was shaping up to show that a protagonist could remain broken and missing pieces. Such a conclusion would really make this a groundbreaking Kdrama
I think the most unrealistic thing for me in this story was the mother of the villainess totally abandoning the villainess at the end. after everything she'd done for her, it just didn't seem like a move she'd do- like completely discard her just to save her own skin
I’ve seen this series, and I’ve liked it. The only two issues I found are that I think that it could have taken a more nuanced approach when it comes to the theme of revenge, and that the last two episodes felt rushed. However, the series has a diverse cast of complex characters, and I really like that. Now that we got that covered, I would like to take a moment to list my two favorite characters and my most hated character: Favorite character 1: Hye-jeong (flight attendant): The reason she is here is because, out of all the bullies (and even all the characters in the first place), she felt much more fleshed out and complex (at least to me) as a character. The reason for this is that, even though it’s not a good thing that she went along with bullying Dong-eun, she did because she wanted to be friends with Yeon-jin, Sa-ra and Jae-jun (she was the only one who saw the bully group as real friends, and she was actually in love with Jae-jun), making her motives more understandable than for the other bullies (still no excuse tho). Out of all the bad guys, I felt bad only for her, because Yeon-jin and Sa-ra clearly treated her like shit, and it made me more angry at them (take the scene in episode 2 when they mock Hye-jeong for wearing that white dress from her dad’s laundry shop). That, combined with the bad girl charisma she exhibited in part 2 while putting Yeon-jin and Sa-ra in their place, is exactly why she belongs to my favorite character list. I’d like to finish by saying she was the most redeemable villain, and that the show’s biggest mistake was not giving her a redemption arc. Favorite character 2: Do-young (Yeon-jin’s husband): This guy belongs to my list mainly because he shares values I hold dear: family duty. Ye-sol may not be his daughter by blood, but he doesn’t care about any of that. As far as he’s concerned, he’s her father, and he will protect her at all costs. Also, it is pretty clear that he is human and kind, unlike his wife (when he learned the whole truth, he knew better than to side with her). It’s also pretty clear that, at first, he truly loved Yeon-jin, as he was pretty much not happy about learning that she cheated on him and even gave her multiple chances to make things right. When he knew that she was unfaithful but also someone who was pure evil, he decided to divorce her and take Ye-sol away from that influence. I was especially passionate about the “daddy war” he had with Jae-jun (Jae-jun wanted Ye-sol because she was biologically his daughter), to the point where I was more invested in it than in Dong-eun’s revenge. I’m still pretty surprised that Do-yeong didn’t get any scenes where he interacts with his mother, even though other characters (Yeon-jin, Yeo-jeong, Dong-eun) had this kind of scenes (the scene where Do-young’s mom tries to attack Yeon-jin for cheating on her poor son was the funniest part of this series). Most hated character: Sa-ra (junkie painter): Sa-ra got the “most hated character” award from me because she EXTREMELY annoying. All she does in the drama is screaming, throwing tantrums like a toddler, grabbing people’s hair, hitting people, shouting insults, and whatnot. I was especially appalled by the way she treated Hye-jeong, who was always very loyal to the bully group and especially to her and Jae-jun, and by how abusive she was towards her parents. Honestly, in the scene where she throws a tantrum so her parents will send her to the Netherlands, I was totally on her father’s side, because he at least tried to install some discipline onto her. It’s pretty clear the reason she is like this is because her mom coddled her too much. Seriously, it would have been better if she was the one who lost her voice instead of Hye-jeong. She’s worse than Trevor Philips from GTA 5 on so ma y levels (and as someone who played GTA5, I actually like Trevor because, unlike Sa-ra, he has redeeming traits). That’s my opinion, feel free to share yours to me.
This drama was amazing! Given that, I agree on the love interest being totally off the mark. Not only that but I think the two make leads, so the love interest was given a really complicated development just so we are interested in his character, but the father of Yesol is under developed because viewers probably shipped him with Dong-eun. I think Yesol’s dad had really good potential, as at the beginning they showcased him as a character with backbone, but we lost that as the show kept going and he would do things randomly without us infiltrating into his reasoning. Doctor guy on the other hand, was kind of all over the place, one moment he is a psychopath ready for murder, the other he is doing all sorts of cringey puppy love things (which in my opinion didn’t need to belong in this show). Idk, honestly I thought I was the only one who thought these things, but looking at the comments I am surprised that I am not! 😅
I hated the romance part too. Instead, they could have shown something between Moon Dong-eun and Ha Doyong. That would have been wayyyy better. Husband cheating on his wife with the girl that she bullied lol. Mainly I hated their romance because of their age gap. It made me cringe so much I literally fast forward all their scenes 😬 They could have just been friends you know or accomplices
Everyone pushing her and that man.🙄He has bigger priorities than her for example his daughter. If I was in his position. I just found out the kid i raised isn't mine, my wife is not who I thought she was. Nope Dongeun you are not my problem
@@likhwezititustrue and also Dong-eun has absolutely no interest in being someone’s mother. I feel like the most unrealistic ending would be her suddenly happy playing wife and mom when she has sooo many issues she still needs to work through
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I said critique part 2 some weeks ago and some people were mad I couldn’t wait for part 2 after watching part one but I was disappointed if the writers had made 12 episodes and leave out a lot of the scenes that doesn’t make any sense it would’ve been has good has the first one
I hope they dont make a season 2. It will ruin the essence of the story & the dynamic of the acting. She got her revenge & that's it. In S2 maybe the one in prison will get out & retaliate. Than the whole story is back where they started.
This kdrama, The Glory 1 & 2 is a waste of great actors and actresses. The story was good, the actors portrayed their roles well but there was something off (?) about how it was presented as a whole. There were some unnecessarily prolonged, and some unrealistic scenes that drags the story, like the mother x daughter quarrel and the burning of the apartment, the school reunion, the incident in the church..to name a few... sorry to say this but, as a whole, it fell short of my expectations.
LOL, mediocre drama, which was very unrealistic......the protagonist grew up to be a psycho who needs medical help........the bullies are straight-up evil from some 2000s show.......felt like an overused plot of Japanese/Western movies I watched back in the day.
9.5/10 for me. The only criticism I have is that in part 2 they kinda turned up the kdrama stereotype dial a little. The romance subplot didn't really land for me. It could've been done well if it was darker and more complex in tune with the show, but I felt the writers just made it like a throwaway subplot they were forced to add. They could've stayed just as friends and the story would've worked out just the same.
Very good point about how the romance’s tone didn’t match the show. They easily could’ve made it even a little bit darker and twisted- they’re both very broken people. I think what also doesn’t help was the chemistry we saw between Ha Doyoung and Dong Eun- seeing that potential vs the cheesy kdrama romance w/the doc was an unfortunate contrast. I didn’t mind the cheese too much bc it was a nice emotional relief (along with Hyun Nam), but Danny was right- he was way an unrealistic simp and kind of sloppy writing.
Agree, wish they would've gotten rid of the whole romance subplot and stuck with just her character growth. I felt no chemistry between the main leads.
I thought it was a nice addition. Moon has been betrayed by so many people its nice to know she has someone by her side. Same with her neighbour friend.
I personally really loved the romance. Usually revenge stories show their main characters alone because they don’t want to hurt/involve others. I thought it was refreshing to see the main character get help from both the doctor and the maid. Also the doctor is very clearly unstable. I think that explains some of his obsession with her. If he were written more realistically, I think the only thing that would change is, he would become more violent every time she pulled away.
Thank you! He said it was a hand-holdy drama but they didnt explain this part. They showed it. He practiced stabbing a man at his home every night. He got daily letters from his father’s killed and kept a drawer of knives. Mans was ready to pop and Dong-un was the tiny needle needed for him to release his crazy.
I personally think that the drama made it very clear that Jae-jun was worse than Myeong-Oh. They had Moon almost completely freak out when she was alone with him at the school with a few simple actions. And his concern over Se-ri’s body was purely because he knew that he would be blamed for r*ping her.
I agree to most of what you said. Regarding the doctor, I was also wondering for a long time if he is actually a good guy or if there's going to be a twist, like him turning out to be a obsessive psychopath/sociopath or something... he appeared so creepy to me sometimes and then he was this super nice puppy again in other scenes. He just didn't seem like a well thought out character.
Honestly (and please don't come for me) I never thought that Song Hey Kyo was a great actress cause she kinda always stuck to the same roles. I adored her in DOS, loved ENCOUNTER and yeah she is a beauty and a fixed member in the Kdrama world, but then THE GLORY came...and whoa... I bow to her now...this role and her acting will go down in history for me. Hope she will choose more roles like these cause she definitely can!!
I didn't mind the Dr and Moon romance, maybe there was a lack of chemistry you didn't find to be believable. But the only problem I had at the end was the cleaning lady never joined her daughter. Or I thought they would bring her daughter back to Korea for a visit, now that she is safe too.
I personally disagree. Her daughter is getting excellent education and surely will come back to visit mom I'm sure. Not every show has to have a good ending
It`s my thought too,the romance was forced and...I`ll just say it,Song Hye Kyo just typically has more chemistry with actors her age or older,and I LOVE noona romances. I wonder why they decided to still push through with the romance even though she obviously had more chemistry with Mr Ha,if we`re going there. I wonder if it`s because the doctor will have an arc of his own. But either way,your work shouldn`t have to rely on a sequel or prequel to make sense. I personally gave Part 1 a 7.5/10 and Part 2 7/10,so they`re consistent all things considered.
I hated the romance part too. Instead, they could have shown something between Moon Dong-eun and Ha Doyong. That would have been wayyyy better. Husband cheating on his wife with the girl that she bullied lol. Mainly I hated their romance because of their age gap. It made me cringe so much I literally fast forward all their scenes 😬 They could have just been friends you know or accomplices
Part 2 wasn’t as fun for me, and you’re right about the hand holding that def made it less fun, I think part 1 Was just so shocking and the feel was in the edge and this felt kinda Mellow even tho shi… did happen
I need to work really hard to understand subtleties in any drama since the translations aren’t complete, so I disagree, sometimes the connections need to be over explained.
If we look at the whole story as just the illusion (or dream) of the main character, Dong-eun, everything starts to make a lot more sense and feels closer to reality. In her imagination, she gets to be the hero, take revenge, and even find her soulmate, Dr. Joo. After being horribly bullied and abandoned by her own mother, it’s like her mind split into two-one part that deals with the harsh reality, and another that lives in a fantasy world. It’s a natural way for the brain to protect itself. Her enemies are way too powerful for her, and they only get stronger as they grow up, so she’s basically powerless compared to them. A lot of her success seems like pure luck, which is hard to explain-like getting the ex-maid and Dr. Joo on her side or catching the interest of Jae-joon’s husband despite her gloomy vibe. As the show goes on, it starts to feel more and more like a typical K-Drama, especially towards the end. If the ending had been more open, like in 'Parasite,' it would’ve added a lot more depth and left the audience with more to think about."
Great show. The only criticism I would have is for some of the casting. All great actors and all gave a great performance, but some I think either didn't fit that role as well as someone else would've, or I just didn't feel their relationship with another character fit right. Like the actor that played the doctor Joo Yeo-jeong. He felt more like Moon Dong-eun's happy-go-lucky little brother than a love interest. Not only the characters themselves didn't have any chemistry imo, but the actors appear to have like a 10-15 year age gap. A stronger more mature character like Ha Do-yeong would've made a lot more sense if she had to end up with anyone. Adult Son Myeong-oh. The actor that played him is too charismatic and good looking to just play the dumb submissive errand boy. I think he would've been a better fit as Jeon Jae-joon instead. Dude looks like a model, it would make sense for him to own that Siesta luxury shop and wear all those high fashion outfits, and to be the womanizing playboy Jae-joon was in the show. Adult Park Yeon-jin. The teenage Park Yeon-jin (played by Shin Ye-eun) was psychotic, intimidating, and physically imposing. Those crazy eyes of hers could freeze hell. You could see why everyone was scared of her, even the other bullies. The adult version came off as bitchy and unhinged, but not the least bit intimidating and it made no sense why she was the alpha of the group. She weighed 90 lbs. I thought even the housekeeper Kang Hyeon-nam could've easily beat her up.
I actually think she was setting up "Go" pieces, not chess pieces. It might have helped to see the doctor's dark side sooner. The doc sees the protagonist as a victim seeking justice. He has been traumatized by the serial killer who murdered his father so he's sympathetic. Even so they should have had some intensive conflict. People often underestimate the aptitiude of "cleaning ladies". Her abusive spouse has kept her from developing skills. She's so desperate to get rid of him that she works hard to develop her skills.
I had the same thoughts about the doctor's mom suddenly showing up at the roof top! That was SO random! It's like the writers got tired and just off the cuff decided, "Yep, the mom showing up makes sense. Green light that."
👏🤣 New night setting video nice! Somehow I see the 1st half was more addictive. I saw like 2 or 3 new episodes of part 2 and lots were not necessary and slow. The love interest is not needed and not good cast for that too. The rest of the cast acted beautifully
Yes, yes, and yes. I loved this drama so much. The entire cast was perfection. Everyone was so interesting and had great individual story lines. I would watch a spin off of the bullies too!
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(SPOILER for part 2) I don't think there needs to be debates on whether Jae-jun was the dead girl's r*pist, the drama makes it pretty clear it was him
I wanted a little more background on what kept the bully group together, I understand how they were a clique in high school but I find it amazing they would all still be together decades later and that the dynamics of the group have not changed or evolved. And then, for Kyung-ran, who was the victim after Dong-eun to also be still in this circle of psychopaths didn't make any sense.
For me it does makes sense that the bully group stayed together. Yeon-Jin, Sa-ra and Jae-joon where in the same social circle, they were horrible people who knew each other for years and didn’t need to pretend, also they kind of see each other as equals. Myeong-oh probably knew that in no way he could live the fancy live style if he was not with Jae-Joon, he practically did nothing and could spend a lot of money or at least pretend that he had a lot of money. Hye-Jeon is a little tricky because she could leave the group without a problem but she wanted to climb the social ladder I think she could have done it alone but the group give her status. What I think it doesn’t make a lot of sense is the girl they use to bully. But I agree that it would be great to see why they stayed together.
I was kind of puzzled about the romance myself. Ha Doyong is a young wealthy handsome and good hearted doctor. I'm sure he wasn't lacking in female attention. I was wondering why he was obsessed with this gloomy woman who barely gave him the time of day. I just assumed he connected with her as another damaged soul.
I think you meant Joo Yeojeong right?
But yeh I agree
trauma bonding
Joo yeojoeong*
I agree. I felt the puppy romantic interest character was poorly written and unrealistic even for a Kdrama. I wonder if he wasn’t developed much because they are setting up a Season 2 about his revenge against his father’s murder. The romance felt forced to me. I loved Hyeonam even though she was a little unrealistically skilled
I don't think that would be a very interesting season 2 to be honest
what i loved the doctor, every time he was on screen i wanted to see more of him. I personally also loved the romance it brings some fresh air that it needed in the show
Not gonna lie - I enjoyed it too! I was rooting for them even though his mental state was allllll over the place!
I thought it was a great addition as well!
One thing that I notice after the glory is how the Korean society views School Assault, Attempt murder, harassment, mental/ physical harm as " Bullying." they need to change the Name to Assault cause almost all of them can lead to someone to end themselves.
I think they call it 'school violence'
That is Bullying everything you described is bullying
It should be called attempted murder
I actually got why the doctor was like that. She was what he wanted to be. (Rather than what he wanted to date.) And I liked their scenes. But I’m an older woman, and the only men I like are pretty puppy dogs.
I just want epilogue about the doctor and Ha Doyoung's background. Who they were as they are right now. I think writer-nim didn't really explore enough.
My first thought the doctor would also be a Psychopath who kinda obsessed with Dong-eun. He likes how Dong-eun is a great mastermind of her own revenge strategy as he's her GO' s teacher.
And why Doyoung killed Yesol 's biological father? I mean he would end up be blind anyway🤷 it feels out of character. He's very meticulous and doesn't like to make his hands dirty 🙄
I just hope that if there would be next season, dong eun and do young will get some relationship development, cause their chemistry was so insane
Everyone is dead or locked up. Idk how there will be a second season.
Saying it was a hand-holdy drama but they didnt explain the romance part. They showed it.
He practiced stabbing a man at his home every night. He got daily letters from his father’s killed and kept a drawer of knives. Mans was ready to pop and Dong-un was the tiny needle needed for him to release his crazy.
I thought it was obvious. He was pinning for her because he was unstable. I think this showed through in how everyone who watched described him “basic male lead” “puppy dog love interest”. In reality his character was set up to be a knight but as they said in the park, he turned out to be an executioner.
They took the basic puppy dog male lead and had him wear it as a mask. Poor guy hallucinated the killer following him around everyday!😭 he actually tried therapy for years and the only thing that helped was Dong-un.
I feel like so many forgot the details of the show
I think the second part had a lot of unanswered questions for me and that is why I hope there is a season 2 especially because I want to see how the situation with the doctors father being murdered by the patient who has been incarcerated may somehow be connected with main character. I may be wrong but a season 2 is definitely needed.
I skipped your spoilers Danny because I haven't watched part 2 yet but I totally agree with you on the romance element of it. Totally unnecessary. It's like the writer thought she's a strong woman but we need to involve a love interest to show she can be soft and vulnerable. Like bruh.🙄
Yes!! The boyfriend character was unnecessary and don't fit into the storyline. He also a bit young for her. Their look didn't mash up
The romance element makes in the part 2 way more sense. It isn't about being soft and vulnerable, it makes her more human PLUS shows an other perspective about the pain and humiliation they went through and nobody else could understand.
@@annie2588 well, I've just started part 2 so I'm open to being wrong about the romance subplot. I just thought the romance was a convenience because the series was shaping up to show that a protagonist could remain broken and missing pieces. Such a conclusion would really make this a groundbreaking Kdrama
I think the most unrealistic thing for me in this story was the mother of the villainess totally abandoning the villainess at the end. after everything she'd done for her, it just didn't seem like a move she'd do- like completely discard her just to save her own skin
this drama is literally so good it makes me wanna cry
She needed the doctor as her executioner because it sets up the show for another season where she is his executioner.
I’ve seen this series, and I’ve liked it. The only two issues I found are that I think that it could have taken a more nuanced approach when it comes to the theme of revenge, and that the last two episodes felt rushed. However, the series has a diverse cast of complex characters, and I really like that.
Now that we got that covered, I would like to take a moment to list my two favorite characters and my most hated character:
Favorite character 1: Hye-jeong (flight attendant): The reason she is here is because, out of all the bullies (and even all the characters in the first place), she felt much more fleshed out and complex (at least to me) as a character. The reason for this is that, even though it’s not a good thing that she went along with bullying Dong-eun, she did because she wanted to be friends with Yeon-jin, Sa-ra and Jae-jun (she was the only one who saw the bully group as real friends, and she was actually in love with Jae-jun), making her motives more understandable than for the other bullies (still no excuse tho). Out of all the bad guys, I felt bad only for her, because Yeon-jin and Sa-ra clearly treated her like shit, and it made me more angry at them (take the scene in episode 2 when they mock Hye-jeong for wearing that white dress from her dad’s laundry shop). That, combined with the bad girl charisma she exhibited in part 2 while putting Yeon-jin and Sa-ra in their place, is exactly why she belongs to my favorite character list. I’d like to finish by saying she was the most redeemable villain, and that the show’s biggest mistake was not giving her a redemption arc.
Favorite character 2: Do-young (Yeon-jin’s husband): This guy belongs to my list mainly because he shares values I hold dear: family duty. Ye-sol may not be his daughter by blood, but he doesn’t care about any of that. As far as he’s concerned, he’s her father, and he will protect her at all costs. Also, it is pretty clear that he is human and kind, unlike his wife (when he learned the whole truth, he knew better than to side with her). It’s also pretty clear that, at first, he truly loved Yeon-jin, as he was pretty much not happy about learning that she cheated on him and even gave her multiple chances to make things right. When he knew that she was unfaithful but also someone who was pure evil, he decided to divorce her and take Ye-sol away from that influence. I was especially passionate about the “daddy war” he had with Jae-jun (Jae-jun wanted Ye-sol because she was biologically his daughter), to the point where I was more invested in it than in Dong-eun’s revenge. I’m still pretty surprised that Do-yeong didn’t get any scenes where he interacts with his mother, even though other characters (Yeon-jin, Yeo-jeong, Dong-eun) had this kind of scenes (the scene where Do-young’s mom tries to attack Yeon-jin for cheating on her poor son was the funniest part of this series).
Most hated character: Sa-ra (junkie painter): Sa-ra got the “most hated character” award from me because she EXTREMELY annoying. All she does in the drama is screaming, throwing tantrums like a toddler, grabbing people’s hair, hitting people, shouting insults, and whatnot. I was especially appalled by the way she treated Hye-jeong, who was always very loyal to the bully group and especially to her and Jae-jun, and by how abusive she was towards her parents. Honestly, in the scene where she throws a tantrum so her parents will send her to the Netherlands, I was totally on her father’s side, because he at least tried to install some discipline onto her. It’s pretty clear the reason she is like this is because her mom coddled her too much. Seriously, it would have been better if she was the one who lost her voice instead of Hye-jeong. She’s worse than Trevor Philips from GTA 5 on so ma y levels (and as someone who played GTA5, I actually like Trevor because, unlike Sa-ra, he has redeeming traits).
That’s my opinion, feel free to share yours to me.
May want to have the english subtitles on the playbacks too.❤
This drama was amazing! Given that, I agree on the love interest being totally off the mark. Not only that but I think the two make leads, so the love interest was given a really complicated development just so we are interested in his character, but the father of Yesol is under developed because viewers probably shipped him with Dong-eun. I think Yesol’s dad had really good potential, as at the beginning they showcased him as a character with backbone, but we lost that as the show kept going and he would do things randomly without us infiltrating into his reasoning. Doctor guy on the other hand, was kind of all over the place, one moment he is a psychopath ready for murder, the other he is doing all sorts of cringey puppy love things (which in my opinion didn’t need to belong in this show). Idk, honestly I thought I was the only one who thought these things, but looking at the comments I am surprised that I am not! 😅
I hated the romance part too. Instead, they could have shown something between Moon Dong-eun and Ha Doyong. That would have been wayyyy better. Husband cheating on his wife with the girl that she bullied lol. Mainly I hated their romance because of their age gap. It made me cringe so much I literally fast forward all their scenes 😬 They could have just been friends you know or accomplices
Everyone pushing her and that man.🙄He has bigger priorities than her for example his daughter. If I was in his position. I just found out the kid i raised isn't mine, my wife is not who I thought she was. Nope Dongeun you are not my problem
@@likhwezititustrue and also Dong-eun has absolutely no interest in being someone’s mother. I feel like the most unrealistic ending would be her suddenly happy playing wife and mom when she has sooo many issues she still needs to work through
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I said critique part 2 some weeks ago and some people were mad I couldn’t wait for part 2 after watching part one but I was disappointed if the writers had made 12 episodes and leave out a lot of the scenes that doesn’t make any sense it would’ve been has good has the first one
Loved it
I hope they dont make a season 2. It will ruin the essence of the story & the dynamic of the acting. She got her revenge & that's it. In S2 maybe the one in prison will get out & retaliate. Than the whole story is back where they started.
Just finished it this week, loved it!
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I personally thoughy “Eve” was way better..the suspense and drama was better
This kdrama, The Glory 1 & 2 is a waste of great actors and actresses. The story was good, the actors portrayed their roles well but there was something off (?) about how it was presented as a whole. There were some unnecessarily prolonged, and some unrealistic scenes that drags the story, like the mother x daughter quarrel and the burning of the apartment, the school reunion, the incident in the church..to name a few... sorry to say this but, as a whole, it fell short of my expectations.
So the nude scene is CG😅
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I don’t like the drama, the bullying was too extreme. I felt disgusted
LOL, mediocre drama, which was very unrealistic......the protagonist grew up to be a psycho who needs medical help........the bullies are straight-up evil from some 2000s show.......felt like an overused plot of Japanese/Western movies I watched back in the day.
The Clean lady is for me the VIP what an actress!! Absolutely wonderful she us an amazing lady
9.5/10 for me. The only criticism I have is that in part 2 they kinda turned up the kdrama stereotype dial a little. The romance subplot didn't really land for me. It could've been done well if it was darker and more complex in tune with the show, but I felt the writers just made it like a throwaway subplot they were forced to add. They could've stayed just as friends and the story would've worked out just the same.
Very good point about how the romance’s tone didn’t match the show. They easily could’ve made it even a little bit darker and twisted- they’re both very broken people. I think what also doesn’t help was the chemistry we saw between Ha Doyoung and Dong Eun- seeing that potential vs the cheesy kdrama romance w/the doc was an unfortunate contrast. I didn’t mind the cheese too much bc it was a nice emotional relief (along with Hyun Nam), but Danny was right- he was way an unrealistic simp and kind of sloppy writing.
Agree, wish they would've gotten rid of the whole romance subplot and stuck with just her character growth. I felt no chemistry between the main leads.
Yes!😂😂 the romance was weird af. It was like they wove a kdrama into a melodrama. The music and lighting was different for those scenes too
I thought it was a nice addition. Moon has been betrayed by so many people its nice to know she has someone by her side. Same with her neighbour friend.
I personally really loved the romance.
Usually revenge stories show their main characters alone because they don’t want to hurt/involve others.
I thought it was refreshing to see the main character get help from both the doctor and the maid.
Also the doctor is very clearly unstable. I think that explains some of his obsession with her. If he were written more realistically, I think the only thing that would change is, he would become more violent every time she pulled away.
Thank you! He said it was a hand-holdy drama but they didnt explain this part. They showed it.
He practiced stabbing a man at his home every night. He got daily letters from his father’s killed and kept a drawer of knives. Mans was ready to pop and Dong-un was the tiny needle needed for him to release his crazy.
I personally think that the drama made it very clear that Jae-jun was worse than Myeong-Oh. They had Moon almost completely freak out when she was alone with him at the school with a few simple actions. And his concern over Se-ri’s body was purely because he knew that he would be blamed for r*ping her.
I agree to most of what you said. Regarding the doctor, I was also wondering for a long time if he is actually a good guy or if there's going to be a twist, like him turning out to be a obsessive psychopath/sociopath or something... he appeared so creepy to me sometimes and then he was this super nice puppy again in other scenes. He just didn't seem like a well thought out character.
The reason you hate joo yeo jeong so much is because he reminds you of David hahaha
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Honestly (and please don't come for me) I never thought that Song Hey Kyo was a great actress cause she kinda always stuck to the same roles. I adored her in DOS, loved ENCOUNTER and yeah she is a beauty and a fixed member in the Kdrama world, but then THE GLORY came...and whoa... I bow to her now...this role and her acting will go down in history for me. Hope she will choose more roles like these cause she definitely can!!
I didn't mind the Dr and Moon romance, maybe there was a lack of chemistry you didn't find to be believable. But the only problem I had at the end was the cleaning lady never joined her daughter. Or I thought they would bring her daughter back to Korea for a visit, now that she is safe too.
I personally disagree. Her daughter is getting excellent education and surely will come back to visit mom I'm sure. Not every show has to have a good ending
I loved the doctor! He was her silver lining to everything she went through.
It`s my thought too,the romance was forced and...I`ll just say it,Song Hye Kyo just typically has more chemistry with actors her age or older,and I LOVE noona romances. I wonder why they decided to still push through with the romance even though she obviously had more chemistry with Mr Ha,if we`re going there. I wonder if it`s because the doctor will have an arc of his own. But either way,your work shouldn`t have to rely on a sequel or prequel to make sense.
I personally gave Part 1 a 7.5/10 and Part 2 7/10,so they`re consistent all things considered.
I hated the romance part too. Instead, they could have shown something between Moon Dong-eun and Ha Doyong. That would have been wayyyy better. Husband cheating on his wife with the girl that she bullied lol. Mainly I hated their romance because of their age gap. It made me cringe so much I literally fast forward all their scenes 😬 They could have just been friends you know or accomplices
I literally skipped all the parts with romantic scenes 😆 This drama would be an actual masterpiece without puppy male interest.
There was a hint that he might be a psychopath but it didn't go further. Kinda fizzled out. I thought he would be a korean Dexter hehehe
For real 😅
I really like Danny's content. It's always a good detailed analysis and showing his point of view without being imposing.
Part 2 wasn’t as fun for me, and you’re right about the hand holding that def made it less fun, I think part 1
Was just so shocking and the feel was in the edge and this felt kinda
Mellow even tho shi… did happen
I need to work really hard to understand subtleties in any drama since the translations aren’t complete, so I disagree, sometimes the connections need to be over explained.
If we look at the whole story as just the illusion (or dream) of the main character, Dong-eun, everything starts to make a lot more sense and feels closer to reality. In her imagination, she gets to be the hero, take revenge, and even find her soulmate, Dr. Joo. After being horribly bullied and abandoned by her own mother, it’s like her mind split into two-one part that deals with the harsh reality, and another that lives in a fantasy world. It’s a natural way for the brain to protect itself.
Her enemies are way too powerful for her, and they only get stronger as they grow up, so she’s basically powerless compared to them. A lot of her success seems like pure luck, which is hard to explain-like getting the ex-maid and Dr. Joo on her side or catching the interest of Jae-joon’s husband despite her gloomy vibe.
As the show goes on, it starts to feel more and more like a typical K-Drama, especially towards the end. If the ending had been more open, like in 'Parasite,' it would’ve added a lot more depth and left the audience with more to think about."
Great show. The only criticism I would have is for some of the casting. All great actors and all gave a great performance, but some I think either didn't fit that role as well as someone else would've, or I just didn't feel their relationship with another character fit right.
Like the actor that played the doctor Joo Yeo-jeong. He felt more like Moon Dong-eun's happy-go-lucky little brother than a love interest. Not only the characters themselves didn't have any chemistry imo, but the actors appear to have like a 10-15 year age gap. A stronger more mature character like Ha Do-yeong would've made a lot more sense if she had to end up with anyone.
Adult Son Myeong-oh. The actor that played him is too charismatic and good looking to just play the dumb submissive errand boy. I think he would've been a better fit as Jeon Jae-joon instead. Dude looks like a model, it would make sense for him to own that Siesta luxury shop and wear all those high fashion outfits, and to be the womanizing playboy Jae-joon was in the show.
Adult Park Yeon-jin. The teenage Park Yeon-jin (played by Shin Ye-eun) was psychotic, intimidating, and physically imposing. Those crazy eyes of hers could freeze hell. You could see why everyone was scared of her, even the other bullies. The adult version came off as bitchy and unhinged, but not the least bit intimidating and it made no sense why she was the alpha of the group. She weighed 90 lbs. I thought even the housekeeper Kang Hyeon-nam could've easily beat her up.
I actually think she was setting up "Go" pieces, not chess pieces. It might have helped to see the doctor's dark side sooner. The doc sees the protagonist as a victim seeking justice. He has been traumatized by the serial killer who murdered his father so he's sympathetic. Even so they should have had some intensive conflict. People often underestimate the aptitiude of "cleaning ladies". Her abusive spouse has kept her from developing skills. She's so desperate to get rid of him that she works hard to develop her skills.
Probably the last kdrama I watched. After 6 years of watching all of them are predictable but not this one
9.5 is the highest I can give and I'll give that to this drama! Very well done!
Can't wait for the 3rd series
I had the same thoughts about the doctor's mom suddenly showing up at the roof top! That was SO random! It's like the writers got tired and just off the cuff decided, "Yep, the mom showing up makes sense. Green light that."
👏🤣 New night setting video nice! Somehow I see the 1st half was more addictive. I saw like 2 or 3 new episodes of part 2 and lots were not necessary and slow. The love interest is not needed and not good cast for that too. The rest of the cast acted beautifully
I hate that beautiful actresses or actors always play role of an ordinary ppl. And offcourse everyone is falling for them and want to help
Not Danny starting this like an AMSR vid and then slapping us in the face with a peppy as 😂😂😂
Danny u never talked about husband guy, Doyeong. He was one of my fav characters.
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Just finished it today lol
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Yes, yes, and yes. I loved this drama so much. The entire cast was perfection. Everyone was so interesting and had great individual story lines. I would watch a spin off of the bullies too!
No its not kdramas are boring
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