In my opinion, the best qualified people to send would be sailors that have worked on submarines for years. They live in very close quarters knowing that right outside the wall is a hostile environment that would kill them. They're machinists, and mechanics, and nuclear powerplant specialists etc...You can take one nuclear powered submarine and send the whole crew with the astronauts. If you don't get anxiety from being in a sub 1000 feet under water, you probably won't have a problem with being in space or on mars or on the moon.
Take all the militaries in the world and all the leaders who direct killings in the name of country while behind closed doors they laugh at how well their plans are going, all of them are on the same side. Yes, send them all and leave the rest of us here to weather the storm and afterwards maybe since most of the killers will be on mars/ god of war ironic huh it might finally be peaceful. We don't need guns and violence, that's all hype. Protecting freedoms....what freedoms are you kidding me. Pfft. I don't care how much tin is on your chest. My allegiance isn't to a country but to JESUS CHRIST. That is a true hero.
Problem with that is it's not 90-110 days then "omg we all get shore leave now", it's months just getting there, possibly years with the same people. No fresh air, space viruses, the effects of radiation in space on the body, good luck growing food, and no alcohol or sex the entire time lol. I'll take being a Submariner over a Martian colonist any day.
A lot of people frown upon living underground. But I don't see anything wrong with that to start off. We have to start somewhere and I believe underground is the most practical and safe way to go starting out. Even of we start out on structures above ground, Underground is going to be for the long haul.
Martians will live under a bunch of stuff that came from the ground, but that doesn't mean they'll live in tunnels or whatever. Building stuff underground is heinously expensive, even if you do it on the same planet where you already live. Doing anything on Mars will be even more absurdly expensive, even if you do everything the cheapest way possible. And the two effects won't just add. They'll multiply. The Martians will have to process many tons of rock to get the materials they need. The waste material can be spread on the roof. It will probably take a layer a couple meters thick to provide plenty of radiation protection, and only the places where people spend most of their time will need that much.
@@danwylie-sears1134 look at the tunnel digging machines they used to connect the UK and France. They will use the same thing on Mars. You ever watch that old Time movie Total Recall.? That will be the only way to survive the Radiation.
I believe in loving and attending to our own planet which needs attention! We already have oxygen and all the things to make us live. Thank God for earth. Now show that you love it by taking care of this rare beauty!!
Agreed this dude doesn't know what he's talking about we already have a lot of what he says we don't LOL a simple Google could have fixed that, and saved him from his fate here 🤠!!!
@Nina Tote Damn, called man a whole damn snowflake while spouting bullshit information that has no basis in fact, and is just you asking questions out of ignorance..... you called a man ignorant because YOU are ignorant. First, it's only 1/3 as efficient, so you only need 3x as much for the same amount of power (which isn't and insane amount of waste considering you'd still have to ship any other traditional fuel which costs WAY more over the long run). Lastly, don't talk about nuclear power and call someone a snowflake while you ignore the fact that france LITERALLY recycles their fucking spent fuel and recover 95% of the waste as new useable fuel. Meanwhile the US spent $15 billion on a geological repository in the 4th most seismically active state where, after many years of fighting, they finally stopped giving it money. That doesn't include the over $30 billion they've had to spend in lawsuits and damages to these plant operators for not providing them the basics that a third of nuclear powered countries have or are already in the planning stages of having. It's an easy solution but, for the same reason nuclear power plants don't get built, it's a long and expensive ass process that won't pay out until 2 more presidents have full terms. Even a nuclear power plant doesn't break even for 20 years, but that's only because it would cost $5 billion just to power a city of 1000 people on earth and take 5-7 years to build... ON EARTH.
@@mythicallegendary3992 Nuclear fuel (natural uranium after enrichmentment and processing for fuel) is equivalent to about 14,000x its weight in coal. As far as I know there aren't any coal reserves on Mars, so we'd have to ship it in.
What about thorium look that up. It’s a more efficient and safer nuclear reactor. And China just went forward with building more of them. A technology that we in the United States invented they are using. Now that with solar then you’re talking.
I’d rather see them build a outpost on the moon first that way thing like power build design and growing food could be monitored from earth still a long flight there but more accessible
@@strcat666 Elon is an idiot , How are you going to Mars when you can't even go to the moon .. lmao . "You can tell it's real because it looks so fake" . Elon Musk quote . Got to be the dumbest thing I ever heard any one say .
Seems to me like simulated colonies on earth would be needed for decades before trying anything in space but not sure why the Moon isn't a better option. I guess Mars is "cooler" lol.
Hopefully i will be starting a degree with the aim of being involved one way or another in aiding humans to get to mars. Im so excited to just watch it all unfold. Probably the most interesting time to be alive!
I hope when we go we send a fleet of ships that can help each other in case anything goes wrong. Just like sea we never travelled with a lone ship during major explorations.
@@sspectre8217 yeah, Elon wants to make it possible to mass produce Starships, and judging from what space X has build in 3 years, well, im seeing great potential. if they can just survive for like 2 yeah gab Space X can managed build and develop hole new type of ships and send them before they run out of food XD Nothing is truly impossible, but people setting out to prove that true, i have mad respect for.
@@mrfuzzerkins4170 I don't think they will even get to Mars before they are dead, it'll be a spaceship with skelly bobs landing on a also dead planet. Our own livable planet is dieing why doesn't that dickhead musk use billions to save this world. Sorry I'm a little drunk.
You gotta take Ceres from the belt and tow it into orbit of mars to restart the core and generate a dynamo effect to generate a magnetosphere or any terraforming efforts would be undone
Great content! It's really interesting to see how the different Elon Musk business are completing each others to realize mars colonization. If we could use this mindset more effectively at a global scale, we could crush these over-optimistic deadline.
Dead lines . It has been 50 years and no other country has ever put a man on the moon. Things don't work that way. When someone does some thing . Someone else does it better . But the USA can't even go back today . You don't think some thing could be wrong here ? Use your brain > Nobody has been to the moon and nobody is going to Mars >
@@garyryan7852WR we can get to the moon as proven before, its just no one was doing it until now. it would be pretty damn easy with the tech we have now to get to the moon.
@@mythicallegendary3992 Well if you knew anything about what you believe , you would know we can't go now and we never did go . You people just believe what ever you are told . Never doing any critical thinking of your own . Shit there is not even a real picture of earth . lmao .
We don't actually know this to be a problem, but it certainly might be. It requires study, and the ISS studies are obviously irrelevant here since ~0G is far different than 0.33G.
The effect of space in general is pretty terrible. Space sickness symptoms experienced by lSS crews are very alarming. Brain swelling. Changes in blood chemistry and bone density. Spinal problems. But l think all crewmen are still alive and kicking.
@@Dan-lt8vm We already know this to be a problem, it might be solvable but still is a problem. Every life form on earth evolved taking into account gravity as a constant. Sure more study is always needed, and 0,33g might be less worse than 0G but we can easily extrapolate that 0,33g is a problem that will need to be addressed. An O'Neill cylinder is a way better move, it can have the exact gravity we want (meaning we could stay there for a lifetime if needed, not just a few years), a space habitat can be wherever we want in space and if there is a big ass asteroid, all that needs to be done is move, which might be harder to do with a planet where you have to deflect said asteroid. Although spaceX is focused on mars for now, it's inevitable that they will also go with what Blue Origin is pursuing long term: an O'neill cylinder.
3:22 To clarify, the main reason for the radiation levels on Mar's surface is the lack of van allen belts (no liquid, spinning iron core), rather than the thin atmosphere
I have an idea for a passive air lock that could be used in martian habitats, but I don't know enough chemistry to determine if it's feasable. The idea is basically a J-shaped tube filled with a liquid. The low end of the jay is a pool inside the habitat and the high end is exposed to the martian surface. To go outside, you put on your space suit, descend a latter, walk across the bottom of the "J", and climb a latter on the other side. Coming back inside, the liquid would wash any dust off your suit. In fact, if the liquid was some sort of alcohol, it would combust in contact with perchlorate, thus ensuring that no perchlorate can enter the habitat. Any thought?
@@walterlyzohub8112 I found several articles on-line about research showing that brine (very salty water) could exist in liquid form on the surface of Mars for long periods: the salt keeps it from freezing; and the very low temperature reduces evaporation to almost zero.
I dont really play video games, but i think sending someone who really loves videogames and movies and shows and doesn't really care about being outside that much would work well. This person would obviously still have to know how to do stem related things but I do think these types of people would do better in the isolated environment. Also I think having things like that would provide shared leisure among the whole crew.
It's my dream to go to Mars Just imagine how it will feel to experience zero gravity in space and landing on different planet omg I am so excited for the future I hope I can live long enough to experience the Future
I would prefer the underground cities with simulated sunlight flowing in cycles that are keyed to that of what we are familiar with on Earth. Fusion would be great, if we could have it. We could make due with solar powered orbital rings that serve as habitats and power plants that supply fuel cells to the underground facilities.
i wouldnt have known that this was a new channel if you didnt mention it in the ending card. Very well done and i loved the pacing of information. Keep it up!
Moon mission =/= mars. Beside what if he is right? That there should be at least two competing projects as it was intended by NASA to begin with? What if people die and it turns out it was safer to go with already proven tech today?
@@joannot6706 the moon lander ssubmitted by besos was absurd, even if their was a second contractor chosen, it wouldnt be them. its like suggesting that instead of building electric cars (which are technically better in everyway) we should instead focus on building slightly improved volkswagens from the 1950s
@@joannot6706 Ah, you're new to this. NASA specifically stated that they reserved the right to pick only one contender due to limited funds. So there's SpaceX ... price 2.9 B Mr Burns ... price 6 B Then Dynamics or whatever 9 B And by "proven" you mean the 70's equipment? Cause the Mr Burns only has his hopping dildo ... hardly useful for the moon project. SpaceX has proven itself with multiple runs to ISS and putting satellites in orbit.
@@joannot6706 If it was truly about competition, why would they choose 1 option that was half the cost of the 2nd cheapest option if they had room to have 2 options? Basically saying they had room for like 4-6x what they spent...... I call bullshit. Also just more sensible to only spend 25% of what you have to spend.... makes no sense to pay more just to pay more.
The thing I love about building an underground society on mars is that we can build underground societies on many planets and moons in our solar system and out of it
Just a random side fact: Dust storms on Mars do not push stuff around or destroy them like hurricanes and a like on earth due to the said low density atmosphere. Storms just don't have that much kinetic energy to do so.
@@EST457 Those storms cover everything with dust, hence no photovoltaic. And a static charged dust storm is probably not good for any kind of electricity.
OK---------. Great. Nasa's Killo Power program is the Key for splitting Co2 molecules to create Oxygen economically using MOXY. The small Reactor about the size of a 55 gal drum can produce Kilowatts of power for decades without the need of maintenance or anyone to run it. The Kilo-Power module heats a kind of salt fluid to some 700 degrees, the same temp needed to break the Co2 Oxygen chain and produce Oxygen to breathe or make Rocket fuel. Instead of needing Foot Ball Fields of Solar Panels (that only have a half life of 10 years before they have to be replaced) to produce electricity to power Heaters for the MOXY, a few Kilo-Power modules could use their waste heat to produce Oxygen for Free while producing Electricity for the Mars Colony for as long as 50 years before needing replacing by something better.
They should carry enough of those to power the future base but they should also take solar panels. They require more maintenance and have shorter lifespans but they are easy to handle and to relocate (and cheaper)
It's hard to imagine how a Mars settlement could go beyond small research bases. A large population would need to be able to find something that it could export back to Earth to fund the fantastic cost of living there.
@Carl Yes the cost is coming down but we're talking about Mars here. Think about how expensive it would be even on Earth to build an underground farm and illuminate it with artificial light fed by solar panels.
I'd think any medium stay on Mars is going to benefit from being extremely mechanized with a great deal of semi autonomics mining, pickup and moving equipment being under human control for the unique parts of a task and function automatically for repetitious parts of the task. Having a BEV like bobcats for moving containers from a Starship to a storage location would be such a task .
Mr.Engle , All of those machines are complex , and maintenance intensive . You will need an entire logistics-city just to keep things working , and then you'll need a logistics-country to keep THAT working , etc-etc . Better to preposition what you need , as Mars-dust will wreck your equipment . 🤓
I can't 'see it'! I mean...how can we possibly expect Martian humanity to act any different from that which we are presently experiencing, here upon Earth. I can't see it! Are the Martians suddenly going to be civil, docile, peaceful, caring, comforting, etc. when they will only have Earth models for their 'benefactors'? I don't see it! I would truly like to think that Shambala on Mars would be possible/probable...but...realistically thinking...I think NOT!
When you are in space; can you harvest static electricity and turn that into power for deep space exploration? Since light will be harder to collect at a far. Also has anyone looked into using magnetic fields from our sun and planets as a means of travel; meaning creating a space shuttle that can be negatively charged to get pushed by the suns mostly positive field? you can build a giant solar magnetic "net" that you can extend for travel purpose then collapse in means of slowing down or for maneuvering. dont be afraid to message me, ive been thinking about means of travel through space for awhile
That’s how the planets talk to each other and how we record cosmic images and sounds. Poets of the Fall music is so unusual because the soundtrack is “cosmic”. The sounds change depending on the planetary movements at the moment when you listen to it.
You might want to make plans for 2 aldrin cyclers, ferrying crews & materiel to mars. Might want to build a space elevator on Mars, with one anchor at a pole and the other to one of the moons. Yes, these feats can all be accomplished with our level of technology. The cyclers should be wheels, rotating to provide gravity, with landing craft in the center of the hub. The H2O at the pole will help make connected under-cover habitats, somewhat protected from the dust storms. It would be really nice to learn the planet's meteorology, before setting up a base... high winds and storm tracks could really mess up settlements.
Nice presentation style. Keep it up. For me, the biggest most fundamental question with Mars is gravity. A video on this topic would be interesting. If its expanded to gravity solutions in general, like spinning spacecraft orbiting Mars, all the better.
Im just throwing out questions here. Since it will take some time before we can settle mars, would it be feasible to launch rockets/mini rockets, that carry seeds of plants that would be able to grow there? Or boxes of nondegradable food that could be used later? My overall thinking is that we could use this time to supply mars with food banks and other ways of living, once we can land there.
Nothing will grow there without being closely controlled. There is no environment in Mars..no ozone, extreme radiation..it’s like -200° F.. can’t grow plants without a controlled environment
to collect asteroids before the vanish into the sun is a mission - send solar sails to alter asteroids trajectory to end up in mars orbit as a bigger and bigger moon
@@vHelixx- when the solar winds goes out in all directions and follows the suns magnetic flux lines to the orbital planes - give ceres a spin an ceres be a place to pull cables from pole to pole slightly offset for the dynamo effect (in an infinite universe it makes sense to catch solar wind)
Terraforming Mars is an incredibly hard feat to accomplish, its core density is low compared to earth, and that creates its weak gravity which reduces the amount of atmosphere it can hold onto, and also reduces the strength of its magnetosphere which protects that atmosphere from being stripped away by solar winds. You could create a weak atmosphere, but you will need to continuously bring in materials and gases to replenish what is lost to space just to try and make it feel slightly more earth like. So unless the core density can be increased, Mars is simply not a practical candidate for terraforming.
NASA does have a theory of putting a satellite in the right place in orbit around Mars that can redirect the solar radiation. In essence it's a giant magnet in space acting like a magneto sphere. If possible and if it works then all we have to do is pump enough CO2 into the atmosphere...which considering earth we are lretty good at lol. Other option is to basically take that moon lime planet in the atroid belt and smash it into Mars. It would in theory increase its core mass and physical mass enough to kick start things.....just take a few hundred years to cool off is all.
@@Gutenburg100 yeah I don't think old mate Elon wants to wait for the terrestrial impact option 😜 The satellite option sounds interesting, have to see what comes of that!
How about a huge Ring of Water flowing around the colony? While the water itself offers protection, the protection can also be further increased because as the water flows, it spins magnets to generate electricity and magnetism to repel additional radiation. I think I heard some people said to Nuke Mars to warm it up? But wouldn't it be cheaper and better to drop hundreds of rocky asteroids on Mars poles or equator or mountains? You'll increase the mass and thus gravity, hopefully restart the magnetic core, add water, warm it up, etc.
Great video you guys! Really enjoyed it. Thanks for taking out the profanity that was in some of the earlier videos, sounds MUCH more professional without it :)
Lack of magnetic field is a poor explanation for Mars having such a thin atmosphere. Venus also lacks a magnetic field and Venus has an incredibly extreme atmosphere
I’d like to know how planetary mass and gravity play a part here. No point increasing atmospheric pressure and generating a magnetic field if 1/3 g will bleed the atmosphere away
Did he say lack of magnetic field was the explanation for thin atmosphere though? I think he knows the thin atmosphere is because of the lower mass or mars.
Everyone knows mars has a smaller mass, but not everyone knows that solar radiation actively breaks apart bonds, causing these atmospheric gases to float off into space.
its a lazy explanation and isnt even related to atmospheres , beats me how lots of people still say there is no magnetic fields hence no atmosphere, its easy to see the two are not related from basic scientific equations .
Good video. I like the way you touch on things leading up to colonization of Mars. I like the amount of detail you have in the video, which is sort of medium in it's depth. Some You Tube channels go way to far and too complicated in a 20 minute video, making the video too hard to follow or enjoy. You seem to hit the sweet spot. One thing I hope you touch on soon is creating Artificial Gravity on Mars, and as you did with this video, encorporate material leading up to the main topic ( I do believe Artificial Gravity on or below the surface of Mars could easily be a main topic in the video) as you led up to main points in this video. I personally believe there will be no human beings adapting to such a drop in gravity to be able to survive and maintain normal physical health for any length of time beyond 1 year on Mars. There will not be gene modifications that will fix the problem in this century I believe, so the safest thing to do is develop artificial gravity in places on Mars. If one day we develop advanced gene modification technology that works...BONUS, but we can't depend on that.
Excellent video - wide range of issues covered, & honest assessment of pros/cons. Location of base needs to be priority - so much depends on latitude/longitude (potential solar power generation), nearby geological formation (raw materials for construction, below ground habits and/or lava tubes), potential for finding water ice, etc. Unfortunately, we need more rover exploration (at least 5-10 yrs) to make a good selection, notwithstanding development of tech for human space travel beyond earth's magnetic field/protection. If rushed, mission is doomed to failure.
If you are going to bring up NASA's 3d printing research you should definitely mention project Olympus, its their next step after the competitions they held and they did contract companies for the project, also swampworks is worth a mention. As for living underground I believe it isn't the best solution, I think people can have their own surface habs if everything is connected either by printed hallways/roads or by tunnels. like you said most of the work outside would be automated so the majority of the residents traveling should be done inside. If you connect everything then you can walk from your home to your workplace, cafeteria or recreational space without risking an EVA or collecting toxic dust. Plus if all the buildings are connected then you could have communal ports outside where you could control the dust/sanitize people as they return to the interior.
Yes it will take a lot of creativity, money and time. The kind of effort that we put into killing each other with our war machines. Are we up to it, I really don't know but would hope so.
I worked at JPL on the pluto fast flyby mission while I was a student at Caltech, and have been thinking about this for many years. Your video points out that the most significant challenge is the lack of an atmosphere. Why don't we simply find and redirect a suitable asteroid to impact Mars? This would be far more energy efficient than mining or nuking the surface. We could start this immediately by searching the catalog of known asteroids.
@@violetzitola8385 It's very difficult to say for sure the effects of dropping anything( asteroids, thermonuclear weapons etc.) on the surface of another planet. There is a possibility that there will be no effect, and in the worst case scenario, it might actually set us back. But perhaps that's just for our current level of understanding and technology. I think we'd learn more about how extraterrestrial impacts shape the geology of specific planets as we send more humans and tech to these planets and run tests. It's easier to predict the outcome of an asteroid impact on Earth because we possess immense knowledge about our own planet, supported by research and testing done by humans on the surface. Something similiar is due on Mars, a planet that we have exponentially less geological data on.
Also, I'm a high school junior hoping to study Applied Physics. I'd love if you could tell me a bit about the work you did at the Jet Propulsion Lab? Were there any physics students working there that you knew and if so, do you remember what kind of projects they worked on? -Tushar
@@tusharrao6265 I was an undergraduate student at Caltech and participated in the "SURF" program (summer undergratuate research fellowship). I worked on the Pluto Fast Flyby mission, which was an attempt to get to Pluto as fast as possible. As for physics, I also worked with Kip Thorne on a physics project which later became LIGO. As his research assistant, I worked on building a gravity wave detector designed by Prof. Thorne. What I'd suggest as a high school junior is that you find a science project that you can do for a local science fair. You'll hopefully have fun and that will be very important for your college applications. Here's a link for some ideas:
Any one of those projects will show that you are serious about being a scientist. I went to Home Depot and bought some concrete, copper wire, and a pyrometer. Built a kiln and made a superconductor. It was in the news at the time of an experiment that succeed in room temperature superconductivity. That turned out to be an error, but I did make it work with some liquid nitrogen I got at a local supplier. You can do this sort of project too. Do some research on google, wikipedia, and youtube. You can do it and have fun!
How about excavating huge underground cave-domes? Something like Zion in Matrix. Maybe not that huge but the point would be to provide enough space for people not to feel claustrophobic.. Nuclear power would probably be the only viable option, imo.
We need to become very good at living on the moon before we can ever live on mars. Practice in a place where we can emergency bail out is a better plan because an emergency bail out is impossible on mars and people would just die if something went terribly wrong.
With how fast technology has been advancing I don't think it will take to long to develop the technology needed to terraform a planet. There may be difficulties at first because of the conditions on Mars but human determination can accomplish many seemingly impossible tasks.
Money isn’t the problem for terraforming a planet….. It’s time and knowledge. If we could just terraform a planet earth would be completely different. Idiots!
The first generation that lives on Mars is going to love it because of the novelty. The first generation BORN on Mars is going to hate it and their parents for birthing them unto that unforgiving rock.
Interesting. I would say it would be the other way around. The first colonists would have huge problems adapting from Earth to Mars. Imagine living in an isolated cave for the rest of your life instead of the freedom you could enjoy on Earth. People who would get born there (if that is even biologically posisble and safe for humans) would never know Earth and have less problems accepting the hard life on Mars.
You would have to supress information about the outside worlds and build a religion around their work to fabricate a meaningful yet simplistic lifestyle
A lot of people lives in deserts o simple lives. For those children, Mars will be their home. The Earth in 2060 will be mostly a dessert with some habitable zones, and Mars will be like living in a clean hi-tech society, with a lot of indoor plants. Do you really think that in 2060 humans will be able to go outside their homes on Earth? Probably mostly not.
Couldn't Have Said It Better.IF THEY EVEN CAN Truly Survive There With No Water,Atmosphere,Oxygen/Nitrogen,And Being Crushed From Pressure And Cooked From Radiation 🤷🏻♂️
I think we need to go to the moon first and work out how to live there before we tackle Mars. My long term goal is to create habitats in space, attached or adjacent to asteroids. I don't see a reason to go to Mars, but I sure see a reason to go to the moon and asteroids.
NASA is just excited that someone's actually going to LAND and start work on a planet rather than having to dust off the old moon landing camera studio....... Thanks Elon for Blazing the way! 👍👍
I think the best solution is to have a 2-level colony. Greenhouses, lounges, etc. on the surface, sleeping quarters and labs underground. People need to see the horizon once in awhile, but your eyes are closed when you're sleeping. This way you can at least cut your exposure to radiation in half.
I believe in us… this brings me back to why we should make peace and not war. When it comes to it, we need each other to conquer certain feats. That is if your interested in making history in a shorter time than forever. Team work is a dream work. Happy New Years everyone!!! 2022 is so 🔥 it seems.
I would be cool if you had discussed abiboo's design in the colonization section. I saw a photo of theirs, but no mention of their idea to have us life in the cliffs, with tunnels and elevators, and power on top of the mesa. It's the coolest design I have seen so far for how to live on mars. But there was lots in here I had not seen yet. Great video.
Mars should be a live experiment/Learning project. A leap frog depot to allow us to explore deeper into space, until we locate the another perfect planet or planets. The community must operate like the Tesla Team if they are going to survive. A life of continual innovation Pushing the Evolution Revolution
When you watch these space videos, pay attention to the ping sounds in the background. The ping identifies which Galaxy it is in and which planet it is. For example, Mars sounds different from Pluto. And Uranus sounds different from Venus.
gravity has nothing to do with having a liquid core, it's simply about mass. You are thinking of the magnetosphere to block space radiation and solar winds. To do with keeping an atmosphere there isn't really an issue; if we can reproduce an atmosphere, it will stick around for millions of years since the rate at which the atmosphere is lost to solar winds is very slow.
Mars thing is terrible idea. I was like you few years back and now that I understand more about the evolution of the soul and connection to planet. We are actually connected to the earth and that connection can cut off when you leave the earth. Planet alone can't be in higher frequency without beings so it requires people or will stuck on the first density frequency.
This things goes beyond the physical understanding. How does a planet increase its vibration? As I mentioned above, it is us and by doing what? By being 51% positive and allowing the freewill of the individual. Consciousness can only evolve when will is given freely.
Do you remember 2012 movie and people saying that it will be the end of our people? That was the ending of the last three earth cycle and (one takes 25 thousands of years) we were lucky because 51% of the people were positive. It would be the end if it was lower than 51%
Now earth is in 4th density of consciousness which correspond with love and Unity, negative beings are planning to leave the earth and take people who unaware of what is going on and continue to slave them. 4th density vibration is too high for negative entities to be on this planet because they vibrate at the lower frequency
While I think putting people on Mars would be an amazing achievement, it seems like too bigger target to do it long term with a larger number of people. There is no atmosphere, not enough gravity, no magnetic field, it's minus 70 degrees, high radiation, very limited habitat space, difficult to grow food. I'm not sure the human mind will be able to take the strain.
I like the idea of living on Mars, I definitely would not be one of the first people to join the Martian city, I would wait until the city is stable but recently I’ve had questions on my mind like “how would video games be developed on Mars?” “Would we just have to import them?” “And how would video game stores or something like amusement parks or fun stuff in general work?” But also with politics like would that city just be an extension of the US? Idk that was just some stuff on my mind
Kim Stanley Robinson's fictional trilogy on mars habitation posed some interesting ideas about how we could do it, but it would be fascinating if you knowledgeable reporters would do some sort of comparison of actual current thought to the fictional that was much more detailed but applied in an imaginary way.
If we really wanted to, we could have a city on mars by the end of the decade, unfortunately people seem a bit too busy killing each other right now. Welp, what can you do.
Actually the level of global conflict is historically very low right now. Right now is the best time to do it, until the next major conflict starts. Global warming is progressing which will cause mass migration and definitelly trigger some conflicts around the world..
@@kyjo72682 I am concerned less with the current levels of violence and more concerned with our current potential for destruction, which is historically the highest it has ever been. It's been like this for a long time now. Canned food was first made for soldiers in the trenches, only later recognised as a good product for the general public, missiles came before rockets, the atomic bomb came before nuclear power plants. We find new technologies and our first thoughts are not about exploiting them for the betterment of society or the quality of life. We think about ways to destroy each other.
Something you may not have considered regarding Terraforming mars. Is a plan to build a giant super magnet at legrange point 1 between sun and Mars. That would create an artificial Magnetic field. If not that a magnetic field at L point 1,2, and in geostationary orbit around Mars.
In my opinion, the best qualified people to send would be sailors that have worked on submarines for years. They live in very close quarters knowing that right outside the wall is a hostile environment that would kill them. They're machinists, and mechanics, and nuclear powerplant specialists etc...You can take one nuclear powered submarine and send the whole crew with the astronauts. If you don't get anxiety from being in a sub 1000 feet under water, you probably won't have a problem with being in space or on mars or on the moon.
Take all the militaries in the world and all the leaders who direct killings in the name of country while behind closed doors they laugh at how well their plans are going, all of them are on the same side. Yes, send them all and leave the rest of us here to weather the storm and afterwards maybe since most of the killers will be on mars/ god of war ironic huh it might finally be peaceful. We don't need guns and violence, that's all hype. Protecting freedoms....what freedoms are you kidding me. Pfft. I don't care how much tin is on your chest. My allegiance isn't to a country but to JESUS CHRIST. That is a true hero.
@UCpCvZkIFwnP_hnY738XLRIg ok idiot.
As a submariner, I volunteer! From the depths of the sea to the stars.
@@d.d.ucheabba5461 You are talk and think just like those "leaders" that you hate so much
Problem with that is it's not 90-110 days then "omg we all get shore leave now", it's months just getting there, possibly years with the same people. No fresh air, space viruses, the effects of radiation in space on the body, good luck growing food, and no alcohol or sex the entire time lol. I'll take being a Submariner over a Martian colonist any day.
A lot of people frown upon living underground. But I don't see anything wrong with that to start off. We have to start somewhere and I believe underground is the most practical and safe way to go starting out. Even of we start out on structures above ground, Underground is going to be for the long haul.
They Need tunnel digging machines and slowly make Huge underground living areas. then eventually small cities. Like in the movie Total Recall.
@@jonathanharris9924
SpaceX to get there.
Tesla to get around there.
The boring company to stay there.
Martians will live under a bunch of stuff that came from the ground, but that doesn't mean they'll live in tunnels or whatever.
Building stuff underground is heinously expensive, even if you do it on the same planet where you already live. Doing anything on Mars will be even more absurdly expensive, even if you do everything the cheapest way possible. And the two effects won't just add. They'll multiply.
The Martians will have to process many tons of rock to get the materials they need. The waste material can be spread on the roof. It will probably take a layer a couple meters thick to provide plenty of radiation protection, and only the places where people spend most of their time will need that much.
What about possible quakes?
@@danwylie-sears1134 look at the tunnel digging machines they used to connect the UK and France. They will use the same thing on Mars. You ever watch that old Time movie Total Recall.? That will be the only way to survive the Radiation.
I believe in loving and attending to our own planet which needs attention! We already have oxygen and all the things to make us live. Thank God for earth. Now show that you love it by taking care of this rare beauty!!
Given our level of technology, power generation (nuclear and solar) should provide more than enough for a colony to get started and with redundancy.
Agreed this dude doesn't know what he's talking about we already have a lot of what he says we don't LOL a simple Google could have fixed that, and saved him from his fate here 🤠!!!
@Nina Tote Damn, called man a whole damn snowflake while spouting bullshit information that has no basis in fact, and is just you asking questions out of ignorance..... you called a man ignorant because YOU are ignorant. First, it's only 1/3 as efficient, so you only need 3x as much for the same amount of power (which isn't and insane amount of waste considering you'd still have to ship any other traditional fuel which costs WAY more over the long run).
Lastly, don't talk about nuclear power and call someone a snowflake while you ignore the fact that france LITERALLY recycles their fucking spent fuel and recover 95% of the waste as new useable fuel. Meanwhile the US spent $15 billion on a geological repository in the 4th most seismically active state where, after many years of fighting, they finally stopped giving it money. That doesn't include the over $30 billion they've had to spend in lawsuits and damages to these plant operators for not providing them the basics that a third of nuclear powered countries have or are already in the planning stages of having. It's an easy solution but, for the same reason nuclear power plants don't get built, it's a long and expensive ass process that won't pay out until 2 more presidents have full terms. Even a nuclear power plant doesn't break even for 20 years, but that's only because it would cost $5 billion just to power a city of 1000 people on earth and take 5-7 years to build... ON EARTH.
@@ryanthompson3737 just use coal, it’s good for starting an atmosphere, and it provides decent power.
@@mythicallegendary3992 Nuclear fuel (natural uranium after enrichmentment and processing for fuel) is equivalent to about 14,000x its weight in coal. As far as I know there aren't any coal reserves on Mars, so we'd have to ship it in.
What about thorium look that up. It’s a more efficient and safer nuclear reactor. And China just went forward with building more of them. A technology that we in the United States invented they are using. Now that with solar then you’re talking.
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They are catching up quick, remember Starship were to land on the moon this year and has yet to reach orbit.
I’d rather see them build a outpost on the moon first that way thing like power build design and growing food could be monitored from earth still a long flight there but more accessible
Elon has the wherewithal and is going to Mars.
@@strcat666 Elon is an idiot , How are you going to Mars when you can't even go to the moon .. lmao . "You can tell it's real because it looks so fake" . Elon Musk quote . Got to be the dumbest thing I ever heard any one say .
@@garyryan7852WR i bet they couldnt even colonize the antartic. people keep dreaming about mars lol
@@Supraboyes Yeah Just dreams and imagination is what they got
Seems to me like simulated colonies on earth would be needed for decades before trying anything in space but not sure why the Moon isn't a better option. I guess Mars is "cooler" lol.
Hopefully i will be starting a degree with the aim of being involved one way or another in aiding humans to get to mars. Im so excited to just watch it all unfold. Probably the most interesting time to be alive!
I hope when we go we send a fleet of ships that can help each other in case anything goes wrong. Just like sea we never travelled with a lone ship during major explorations.
I’m pretty that’s the plan with the Starship. They are planning with redundancy in mind
@@sspectre8217 yeah, Elon wants to make it possible to mass produce Starships, and judging from what space X has build in 3 years, well, im seeing great potential. if they can just survive for like 2 yeah gab Space X can managed build and develop hole new type of ships and send them before they run out of food XD
Nothing is truly impossible, but people setting out to prove that true, i have mad respect for.
@@MouseGoat shame alot of people are going to die for this silly mars dream
@@Supraboyes i see that but also to add some will get mad at one another during that mars mission
@@mrfuzzerkins4170 I don't think they will even get to Mars before they are dead, it'll be a spaceship with skelly bobs landing on a also dead planet. Our own livable planet is dieing why doesn't that dickhead musk use billions to save this world. Sorry I'm a little drunk.
We need to focus more on our own planet first.🌲🌍
You gotta take Ceres from the belt and tow it into orbit of mars to restart the core and generate a dynamo effect to generate a magnetosphere or any terraforming efforts would be undone
Underground homes do not need to be "windowless" because of how easy it would be to connect TVs in the homes to cameras on the surface.
Great content! It's really interesting to see how the different Elon Musk business are completing each others to realize mars colonization. If we could use this mindset more effectively at a global scale, we could crush these over-optimistic deadline.
Dead lines . It has been 50 years and no other country has ever put a man on the moon. Things don't work that way. When someone does some thing . Someone else does it better . But the USA can't even go back today . You don't think some thing could be wrong here ? Use your brain > Nobody has been to the moon and nobody is going to Mars >
@@garyryan7852WR alright mate, should I come back to this comment when we land 😂
@@mythicallegendary3992 Well that just means I will be waiting on another no show . How can you get to Mars when you can't even get to the moon ?
@@garyryan7852WR we can get to the moon as proven before, its just no one was doing it until now. it would be pretty damn easy with the tech we have now to get to the moon.
@@mythicallegendary3992 Well if you knew anything about what you believe , you would know we can't go now and we never did go . You people just believe what ever you are told . Never doing any critical thinking of your own . Shit there is not even a real picture of earth . lmao .
You didn't mention the biggest problem of all : martian gravity.
The effect of prolonged low gravity on the human body is pretty terrible.
We don't actually know this to be a problem, but it certainly might be. It requires study, and the ISS studies are obviously irrelevant here since ~0G is far different than 0.33G.
Artemis program will study this thing under 0.16g. Mars is better: 0.38g.
The effect of space in general is pretty terrible. Space sickness symptoms experienced by lSS crews are very alarming. Brain swelling. Changes in blood chemistry and bone density. Spinal problems. But l think all crewmen are still alive and kicking.
@@Dan-lt8vm We already know this to be a problem, it might be solvable but still is a problem. Every life form on earth evolved taking into account gravity as a constant.
Sure more study is always needed, and 0,33g might be less worse than 0G but we can easily extrapolate that 0,33g is a problem that will need to be addressed.
An O'Neill cylinder is a way better move, it can have the exact gravity we want (meaning we could stay there for a lifetime if needed, not just a few years), a space habitat can be wherever we want in space and if there is a big ass asteroid, all that needs to be done is move, which might be harder to do with a planet where you have to deflect said asteroid.
Although spaceX is focused on mars for now, it's inevitable that they will also go with what Blue Origin is pursuing long term: an O'neill cylinder.
In future we will get gravity manipulation.....then space travel will be a piece of cake
3:22 To clarify, the main reason for the radiation levels on Mar's surface is the lack of van allen belts (no liquid, spinning iron core), rather than the thin atmosphere
I have an idea for a passive air lock that could be used in martian habitats, but I don't know enough chemistry to determine if it's feasable.
The idea is basically a J-shaped tube filled with a liquid. The low end of the jay is a pool inside the habitat and the high end is exposed to the martian surface. To go outside, you put on your space suit, descend a latter, walk across the bottom of the "J", and climb a latter on the other side. Coming back inside, the liquid would wash any dust off your suit. In fact, if the liquid was some sort of alcohol, it would combust in contact with perchlorate, thus ensuring that no perchlorate can enter the habitat. Any thought?
I suspect you will need a liquid that would not quickly evaporate away on the side exposed to the outside.
My opinion.
@@walterlyzohub8112 I found several articles on-line about research showing that brine (very salty water) could exist in liquid form on the surface of Mars for long periods: the salt keeps it from freezing; and the very low temperature reduces evaporation to almost zero.
I meant "ladder", not "latter". Ooops. But stairs or ramps would work too.
@@steverobbins4872 The idea is definitely interesting
Interesting, but then you’d just have extremely hot radioactive water
I dont really play video games, but i think sending someone who really loves videogames and movies and shows and doesn't really care about being outside that much would work well. This person would obviously still have to know how to do stem related things but I do think these types of people would do better in the isolated environment. Also I think having things like that would provide shared leisure among the whole crew.
It's my dream to go to Mars Just imagine how it will feel to experience zero gravity in space and landing on different planet omg I am so excited for the future I hope I can live long enough to experience the Future
I would prefer the underground cities with simulated sunlight flowing in cycles that are keyed to that of what we are familiar with on Earth.
Fusion would be great, if we could have it. We could make due with solar powered orbital rings that serve as habitats and power plants that supply fuel cells to the underground facilities.
i wouldnt have known that this was a new channel if you didnt mention it in the ending card. Very well done and i loved the pacing of information. Keep it up!
Go mankind.
Times are very hard.
We need something huge to uplift all of our spirits.
😂 First Mr Burns has to stop his legal actions ... and FAA needs to finally do it's work.
Moon mission =/= mars.
Beside what if he is right? That there should be at least two competing projects as it was intended by NASA to begin with? What if people die and it turns out it was safer to go with already proven tech today?
@@joannot6706 the moon lander ssubmitted by besos was absurd, even if their was a second contractor chosen, it wouldnt be them. its like suggesting that instead of building electric cars (which are technically better in everyway) we should instead focus on building slightly improved volkswagens from the 1950s
@@joannot6706 Ah, you're new to this.
NASA specifically stated that they reserved the right to pick only one contender due to limited funds.
So there's SpaceX ... price 2.9 B
Mr Burns ... price 6 B
Then Dynamics or whatever 9 B
And by "proven" you mean the 70's equipment? Cause the Mr Burns only has his hopping dildo ... hardly useful for the moon project.
SpaceX has proven itself with multiple runs to ISS and putting satellites in orbit.
@@joannot6706 If it was truly about competition, why would they choose 1 option that was half the cost of the 2nd cheapest option if they had room to have 2 options? Basically saying they had room for like 4-6x what they spent...... I call bullshit. Also just more sensible to only spend 25% of what you have to spend.... makes no sense to pay more just to pay more.
The thing I love about building an underground society on mars is that we can build underground societies on many planets and moons in our solar system and out of it
Just a random side fact: Dust storms on Mars do not push stuff around or destroy them like hurricanes and a like on earth due to the said low density atmosphere. Storms just don't have that much kinetic energy to do so.
Then why did NASAs hover hot destroyed?
@@EST457 Those storms cover everything with dust, hence no photovoltaic. And a static charged dust storm is probably not good for any kind of electricity.
OK---------. Great. Nasa's Killo Power program is the Key for splitting Co2 molecules to create Oxygen economically using MOXY. The small Reactor about the size of a 55 gal drum can produce Kilowatts of power for decades without the need of maintenance or anyone to run it. The Kilo-Power module heats a kind of salt fluid to some 700 degrees, the same temp needed to break the Co2 Oxygen chain and produce Oxygen to breathe or make Rocket fuel. Instead of needing Foot Ball Fields of Solar Panels (that only have a half life of 10 years before they have to be replaced) to produce electricity to power Heaters for the MOXY, a few Kilo-Power modules could use their waste heat to produce Oxygen for Free while producing Electricity for the Mars Colony for as long as 50 years before needing replacing by something better.
They should carry enough of those to power the future base but they should also take solar panels. They require more maintenance and have shorter lifespans but they are easy to handle and to relocate (and cheaper)
Great job 🙂
It's hard to imagine how a Mars settlement could go beyond small research bases. A large population would need to be able to find something that it could export back to Earth to fund the fantastic cost of living there.
The guy who made this video figures they'll just pay for it by raising taxes. I don't think he's ever had a job.
No base on our moon, not even box 1 cube big. Guys like Musk should change pills...
The surface is full of rust, so they have tons of iron for building and exporting, which means less mining can be done on the Earth
@@Aidansstuff_ Iron is not a very expensive metal. I would be very surprised if it could be economically mined on Mars and sent to Earth.
@Carl Yes the cost is coming down but we're talking about Mars here. Think about how expensive it would be even on Earth to build an underground farm and illuminate it with artificial light fed by solar panels.
I'd think any medium stay on Mars is going to benefit from being extremely mechanized with a great deal of semi autonomics mining, pickup and moving equipment being under human control for the unique parts of a task and function automatically for repetitious parts of the task. Having a BEV like bobcats for moving containers from a Starship to a storage location would be such a task .
Mr.Engle ,
All of those machines are complex , and maintenance intensive .
You will need an entire logistics-city just to keep things working , and then you'll need a logistics-country to keep THAT working , etc-etc .
Better to preposition what you need , as Mars-dust will wreck your equipment .
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It’s nice that NASA are finally going to run the simulation experiment, 20+ years after the Mars Society 🖖🏻
I can't 'see it'! I mean...how can we possibly expect Martian humanity to act any different from that which we are presently experiencing, here upon Earth. I can't see it! Are the Martians suddenly going to be civil, docile, peaceful, caring, comforting, etc. when they will only have Earth models for their 'benefactors'? I don't see it! I would truly like to think that Shambala on Mars would be possible/probable...but...realistically thinking...I think NOT!
@@danleep1185 exactly humans are a warmongering species. This is probably why aliens haven't contacted us.
I agree that the Tesla Robots should definitely go to Mars and set up habitats or use a boring company borer to dig a settlement underground
There are no Tesla robots. And I doubt there will be before 2026.
@@kyjo72682 true but that doesn't mean it won't happen in the near future, ie 8 to 10 years! 😊
YES,it's possible and NECESSARY to terraform Mars!
When you are in space; can you harvest static electricity and turn that into power for deep space exploration? Since light will be harder to collect at a far. Also has anyone looked into using magnetic fields from our sun and planets as a means of travel; meaning creating a space shuttle that can be negatively charged to get pushed by the suns mostly positive field? you can build a giant solar magnetic "net" that you can extend for travel purpose then collapse in means of slowing down or for maneuvering. dont be afraid to message me, ive been thinking about means of travel through space for awhile
Couldn’t agree more.
That’s how the planets talk to each other and how we record cosmic images and sounds. Poets of the Fall music is so unusual because the soundtrack is “cosmic”. The sounds change depending on the planetary movements at the moment when you listen to it.
This is a very good program, very informative and interesting. Keep up the good work we all like it!
Nice, living on Mars is like living in Fallout 3, New Vegas and 4. A fun way to die 💖
I continue to be interested and pleased with your channel. The content is great and your production is well done. Thanks !!!!
You might want to make plans for 2 aldrin cyclers, ferrying crews & materiel to mars. Might want to build a space elevator on Mars, with one anchor at a pole and the other to one of the moons. Yes, these feats can all be accomplished with our level of technology. The cyclers should be wheels, rotating to provide gravity, with landing craft in the center of the hub. The H2O at the pole will help make connected under-cover habitats, somewhat protected from the dust storms. It would be really nice to learn the planet's meteorology, before setting up a base... high winds and storm tracks could really mess up settlements.
Nice presentation style. Keep it up. For me, the biggest most fundamental question with Mars is gravity. A video on this topic would be interesting. If its expanded to gravity solutions in general, like spinning spacecraft orbiting Mars, all the better.
What would a spinning spacecraft orbiting mars due to increase gravity on the surface? As far as I know, nothing but I’m unclear by what you mean
I like the thought of going to Mars, but the thought of space habitats (O'Neal cylinders) makes more sense.
Im just throwing out questions here. Since it will take some time before we can settle mars, would it be feasible to launch rockets/mini rockets, that carry seeds of plants that would be able to grow there? Or boxes of nondegradable food that could be used later? My overall thinking is that we could use this time to supply mars with food banks and other ways of living, once we can land there.
Nothing will grow there without being closely controlled. There is no environment in Mars..no ozone, extreme radiation..it’s like -200° F.. can’t grow plants without a controlled environment
@@Noah-pk7tf he probably meant that
You know what’s easier taking care of planet earth 🌎
Mars needs a substantial sized moon
to collect asteroids before the vanish into the sun is a mission - send solar sails to alter asteroids trajectory to end up in mars orbit as a bigger and bigger moon
"that's no moon"
Ceres
@@vHelixx- when the solar winds goes out in all directions and follows the suns magnetic flux lines to the orbital planes - give ceres a spin an ceres be a place to pull cables from pole to pole slightly offset for the dynamo effect (in an infinite universe it makes sense to catch solar wind)
i wish we could go to mars sooner
Terraforming Mars is an incredibly hard feat to accomplish, its core density is low compared to earth, and that creates its weak gravity which reduces the amount of atmosphere it can hold onto, and also reduces the strength of its magnetosphere which protects that atmosphere from being stripped away by solar winds. You could create a weak atmosphere, but you will need to continuously bring in materials and gases to replenish what is lost to space just to try and make it feel slightly more earth like. So unless the core density can be increased, Mars is simply not a practical candidate for terraforming.
NASA does have a theory of putting a satellite in the right place in orbit around Mars that can redirect the solar radiation. In essence it's a giant magnet in space acting like a magneto sphere.
If possible and if it works then all we have to do is pump enough CO2 into the atmosphere...which considering earth we are lretty good at lol.
Other option is to basically take that moon lime planet in the atroid belt and smash it into Mars. It would in theory increase its core mass and physical mass enough to kick start things.....just take a few hundred years to cool off is all.
@@Gutenburg100 yeah I don't think old mate Elon wants to wait for the terrestrial impact option 😜 The satellite option sounds interesting, have to see what comes of that!
How about a huge Ring of Water flowing around the colony? While the water itself offers protection, the protection can also be further increased because as the water flows, it spins magnets to generate electricity and magnetism to repel additional radiation. I think I heard some people said to Nuke Mars to warm it up? But wouldn't it be cheaper and better to drop hundreds of rocky asteroids on Mars poles or equator or mountains? You'll increase the mass and thus gravity, hopefully restart the magnetic core, add water, warm it up, etc.
Great video you guys! Really enjoyed it. Thanks for taking out the profanity that was in some of the earlier videos, sounds MUCH more professional without it :)
Lack of magnetic field is a poor explanation for Mars having such a thin atmosphere. Venus also lacks a magnetic field and Venus has an incredibly extreme atmosphere
I’d like to know how planetary mass and gravity play a part here. No point increasing atmospheric pressure and generating a magnetic field if 1/3 g will bleed the atmosphere away
Did he say lack of magnetic field was the explanation for thin atmosphere though?
I think he knows the thin atmosphere is because of the lower mass or mars.
@@joannot6706 so let’s go to Venus! Oh hang on….
Everyone knows mars has a smaller mass, but not everyone knows that solar radiation actively breaks apart bonds, causing these atmospheric gases to float off into space.
its a lazy explanation and isnt even related to atmospheres , beats me how lots of people still say there is no magnetic fields hence no atmosphere, its easy to see the two are not related from basic scientific equations .
I searched "Mars colonisation fantasy" and this was the top link :)
Good video. I like the way you touch on things leading up to colonization of Mars. I like the amount of detail you have in the video, which is sort of medium in it's depth. Some You Tube channels go way to far and too complicated in a 20 minute video, making the video too hard to follow or enjoy. You seem to hit the sweet spot. One thing I hope you touch on soon is creating Artificial Gravity on Mars, and as you did with this video, encorporate material leading up to the main topic ( I do believe Artificial Gravity on or below the surface of Mars could easily be a main topic in the video) as you led up to main points in this video.
I personally believe there will be no human beings adapting to such a drop in gravity to be able to survive and maintain normal physical health for any length of time beyond 1 year on Mars. There will not be gene modifications that will fix the problem in this century I believe, so the safest thing to do is develop artificial gravity in places on Mars. If one day we develop advanced gene modification technology that works...BONUS, but we can't depend on that.
There's no way humans are going to travel to another planet and live under ground.
Excellent video - wide range of issues covered, & honest assessment of pros/cons. Location of base needs to be priority - so much depends on latitude/longitude (potential solar power generation), nearby geological formation (raw materials for construction, below ground habits and/or lava tubes), potential for finding water ice, etc. Unfortunately, we need more rover exploration (at least 5-10 yrs) to make a good selection, notwithstanding development of tech for human space travel beyond earth's magnetic field/protection. If rushed, mission is doomed to failure.
If you are going to bring up NASA's 3d printing research you should definitely mention project Olympus, its their next step after the competitions they held and they did contract companies for the project, also swampworks is worth a mention. As for living underground I believe it isn't the best solution, I think people can have their own surface habs if everything is connected either by printed hallways/roads or by tunnels. like you said most of the work outside would be automated so the majority of the residents traveling should be done inside. If you connect everything then you can walk from your home to your workplace, cafeteria or recreational space without risking an EVA or collecting toxic dust. Plus if all the buildings are connected then you could have communal ports outside where you could control the dust/sanitize people as they return to the interior.
Yes it will take a lot of creativity, money and time. The kind of effort that we put into killing each other with our war machines. Are we up to it, I really don't know but would hope so.
That big brother on Mars sounds incredible wtf
You’re doing good work here with this channel! Keep it up!
I worked at JPL on the pluto fast flyby mission while I was a student at Caltech, and have been thinking about this for many years. Your video points out that the most significant challenge is the lack of an atmosphere. Why don't we simply find and redirect a suitable asteroid to impact Mars? This would be far more energy efficient than mining or nuking the surface. We could start this immediately by searching the catalog of known asteroids.
I haven't found any comment from Elon that mentions this. What do you think Mr Musk?
@@violetzitola8385 It's very difficult to say for sure the effects of dropping anything( asteroids, thermonuclear weapons etc.) on the surface of another planet. There is a possibility that there will be no effect, and in the worst case scenario, it might actually set us back. But perhaps that's just for our current level of understanding and technology. I think we'd learn more about how extraterrestrial impacts shape the geology of specific planets as we send more humans and tech to these planets and run tests. It's easier to predict the outcome of an asteroid impact on Earth because we possess immense knowledge about our own planet, supported by research and testing done by humans on the surface. Something similiar is due on Mars, a planet that we have exponentially less geological data on.
Also, I'm a high school junior hoping to study Applied Physics. I'd love if you could tell me a bit about the work you did at the Jet Propulsion Lab? Were there any physics students working there that you knew and if so, do you remember what kind of projects they worked on?
-Tushar
@@tusharrao6265 I was an undergraduate student at Caltech and participated in the "SURF" program (summer undergratuate research fellowship). I worked on the Pluto Fast Flyby mission, which was an attempt to get to Pluto as fast as possible. As for physics, I also worked with Kip Thorne on a physics project which later became LIGO. As his research assistant, I worked on building a gravity wave detector designed by Prof. Thorne. What I'd suggest as a high school junior is that you find a science project that you can do for a local science fair. You'll hopefully have fun and that will be very important for your college applications. Here's a link for some ideas:
Any one of those projects will show that you are serious about being a scientist. I went to Home Depot and bought some concrete, copper wire, and a pyrometer. Built a kiln and made a superconductor. It was in the news at the time of an experiment that succeed in room temperature superconductivity. That turned out to be an error, but I did make it work with some liquid nitrogen I got at a local supplier. You can do this sort of project too. Do some research on google, wikipedia, and youtube. You can do it and have fun!
How about excavating huge underground cave-domes? Something like Zion in Matrix. Maybe not that huge but the point would be to provide enough space for people not to feel claustrophobic..
Nuclear power would probably be the only viable option, imo.
Solar is an option too
Pretty sure the boring company is for future Mars underground colonies
We need to become very good at living on the moon before we can ever live on mars. Practice in a place where we can emergency bail out is a better plan because an emergency bail out is impossible on mars and people would just die if something went terribly wrong.
With how fast technology has been advancing I don't think it will take to long to develop the technology needed to terraform a planet. There may be difficulties at first because of the conditions on Mars but human determination can accomplish many seemingly impossible tasks.
Nah not worth it to much money
Money isn’t the problem for terraforming a planet….. It’s time and knowledge. If we could just terraform a planet earth would be completely different. Idiots!
Underground seems to be the most realistic start.
Putting nodules on the surface from the underground structures would allow for surface expansion
The first generation that lives on Mars is going to love it because of the novelty. The first generation BORN on Mars is going to hate it and their parents for birthing them unto that unforgiving rock.
Interesting. I would say it would be the other way around. The first colonists would have huge problems adapting from Earth to Mars. Imagine living in an isolated cave for the rest of your life instead of the freedom you could enjoy on Earth. People who would get born there (if that is even biologically posisble and safe for humans) would never know Earth and have less problems accepting the hard life on Mars.
You would have to supress information about the outside worlds and build a religion around their work to fabricate a meaningful yet simplistic lifestyle
Their work would be scientific research*
A lot of people lives in deserts o simple lives. For those children, Mars will be their home. The Earth in 2060 will be mostly a dessert with some habitable zones, and Mars will be like living in a clean hi-tech society, with a lot of indoor plants. Do you really think that in 2060 humans will be able to go outside their homes on Earth? Probably mostly not.
Couldn't Have Said It Better.IF THEY EVEN CAN Truly Survive There With No Water,Atmosphere,Oxygen/Nitrogen,And Being Crushed From Pressure And Cooked From Radiation 🤷🏻♂️
One for the algorithm, also keep up the good work your my go to for private sector space news.
First lets gooooooo 😂
Finding ways to go thru galactic shortcuts and other propulsion systems for finding better planets would be a much better solution.
Lots& lots of great stuff. Thx. 👍😁😁😁
I think we need to go to the moon first and work out how to live there before we tackle Mars. My long term goal is to create habitats in space, attached or adjacent to asteroids. I don't see a reason to go to Mars, but I sure see a reason to go to the moon and asteroids.
Really good video
NASA is just excited that someone's actually going to LAND and start work on a planet rather than having to dust off the old moon landing camera studio....... Thanks Elon for Blazing the way! 👍👍
Nice report. Well done. Thank you!
You make all lot of good points to keep looking past Mars.
OMG l am understanding something what i didn't know before thanked videos
Do you understand that we can not go to the moon today . This will never happen .
I'd love to see an overview of the CSA with some speculation as to where additional investments might go. -E
Mars base dont need people at all for beginning. Robots must build it, test and only then people can arrive
Ohh, don't worry. You've got the best explanation ever. (both of your account)
I think the best solution is to have a 2-level colony. Greenhouses, lounges, etc. on the surface, sleeping quarters and labs underground. People need to see the horizon once in awhile, but your eyes are closed when you're sleeping. This way you can at least cut your exposure to radiation in half.
I believe in us… this brings me back to why we should make peace and not war. When it comes to it, we need each other to conquer certain feats. That is if your interested in making history in a shorter time than forever. Team work is a dream work. Happy New Years everyone!!! 2022 is so 🔥 it seems.
13:16: Chiron has never been this metallic lovely. Beautiful isn’t it?
You make living on Mars sound a lot like living in the Soviet Union in the 1960's, comrade.
I laughed so hars at the part where it said get your ass to mars
I would be cool if you had discussed abiboo's design in the colonization section. I saw a photo of theirs, but no mention of their idea to have us life in the cliffs, with tunnels and elevators, and power on top of the mesa. It's the coolest design I have seen so far for how to live on mars. But there was lots in here I had not seen yet. Great video.
Great video.
Hey I just happened across this channel at 10pm ET. It's now 1:25.... I'm on like the tenth video. Awesome content. My eyes hurt tho.
Mars should be a live experiment/Learning project. A leap frog depot to allow us to explore deeper into space, until we locate the another perfect planet or planets. The community must operate like the Tesla Team if they are going to survive.
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When you watch these space videos, pay attention to the ping sounds in the background. The ping identifies which Galaxy it is in and which planet it is. For example, Mars sounds different from Pluto. And Uranus sounds different from Venus.
If you wanna terraform Mars find the alien reactor from Total Recall that will produce air in a matter of seconds.
I Believe terraforming is possible it will just take alot of time and paitence. I enjoyes the video.
People in England and the Sweden have told me how depressed they get for lack of sunshine, just think the lack of sunshine on Mars.
You’d have to re-liquefy the core in order to get gravity high enough to get an atmosphere to stick!
gravity has nothing to do with having a liquid core, it's simply about mass. You are thinking of the magnetosphere to block space radiation and solar winds. To do with keeping an atmosphere there isn't really an issue; if we can reproduce an atmosphere, it will stick around for millions of years since the rate at which the atmosphere is lost to solar winds is very slow.
Great content - glad I found your channel. Keep the content coming!
Excellent stuff bro
I think this is a good video and shows that the ,"wheels are moving"
Nice content on your 1st try.
I will be watching for more
I can't think of anything more important or exciting
Mars thing is terrible idea. I was like you few years back and now that I understand more about the evolution of the soul and connection to planet. We are actually connected to the earth and that connection can cut off when you leave the earth. Planet alone can't be in higher frequency without beings so it requires people or will stuck on the first density frequency.
This things goes beyond the physical understanding. How does a planet increase its vibration? As I mentioned above, it is us and by doing what? By being 51% positive and allowing the freewill of the individual. Consciousness can only evolve when will is given freely.
Do you remember 2012 movie and people saying that it will be the end of our people? That was the ending of the last three earth cycle and (one takes 25 thousands of years) we were lucky because 51% of the people were positive. It would be the end if it was lower than 51%
Now earth is in 4th density of consciousness which correspond with love and Unity, negative beings are planning to leave the earth and take people who unaware of what is going on and continue to slave them. 4th density vibration is too high for negative entities to be on this planet because they vibrate at the lower frequency
I'm ready to go and i do have gts for working for our new planet
While I think putting people on Mars would be an amazing achievement, it seems like too bigger target to do it long term with a larger number of people. There is no atmosphere, not enough gravity, no magnetic field, it's minus 70 degrees, high radiation, very limited habitat space, difficult to grow food. I'm not sure the human mind will be able to take the strain.
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In space, people have lived there for 355 days. Going to Mars, almost 8 months. *Good Luck*
I like the idea of living on Mars, I definitely would not be one of the first people to join the Martian city, I would wait until the city is stable but recently I’ve had questions on my mind like “how would video games be developed on Mars?” “Would we just have to import them?” “And how would video game stores or something like amusement parks or fun stuff in general work?” But also with politics like would that city just be an extension of the US? Idk that was just some stuff on my mind
Kim Stanley Robinson's fictional trilogy on mars habitation posed some interesting ideas about how we could do it, but it would be fascinating if you knowledgeable reporters would do some sort of comparison of actual current thought to the fictional that was much more detailed but applied in an imaginary way.
If we really wanted to, we could have a city on mars by the end of the decade, unfortunately people seem a bit too busy killing each other right now. Welp, what can you do.
Actually the level of global conflict is historically very low right now. Right now is the best time to do it, until the next major conflict starts. Global warming is progressing which will cause mass migration and definitelly trigger some conflicts around the world..
@@kyjo72682 I am concerned less with the current levels of violence and more concerned with our current potential for destruction, which is historically the highest it has ever been. It's been like this for a long time now. Canned food was first made for soldiers in the trenches, only later recognised as a good product for the general public, missiles came before rockets, the atomic bomb came before nuclear power plants.
We find new technologies and our first thoughts are not about exploiting them for the betterment of society or the quality of life. We think about ways to destroy each other.
Something you may not have considered regarding Terraforming mars.
Is a plan to build a giant super magnet at legrange point 1 between sun and Mars. That would create an artificial Magnetic field.
If not that a magnetic field at L point 1,2, and in geostationary orbit around Mars.
I don’t know any of the answers but I am excited for a species to be on another planet