Happy birthday Justin!! 🎉 Bucks should not look to do anything major. I believe this team is capable of beating any team in a 7 game series AS CONSTRUCTED besides the Knicks--we can't seem to be competitive with them. Anyway, get below the 2nd apron and wait till off season to make significant changes as needed. Don't mess with the fragile ecosystem.
I'm not in favor of doing it, but I think I'd only be interested in a Jimmy trade as a rental for this year, and would want to be sure he opts out of his option. This would in theory let the Bucks get off the Khris, Bobby, Pat contracts early and try to re-tool this offseason with a lot more flexibility.
happy bday to the legend, im in the small move to give rollins an aj green contract and open a buyout slot (can we do that over the 2nd?) health and time. if its not lavine i dont have any interest in the big names.
I loke the miles turner idea if we could get him for bobby and Pat... Although i hate the idea of getting rid of Bobby....but the thing i love about turner is his 3 point shot
Irregardless I would trade Pat for a pick with Detroit just to get below the second apron if you can't use him for a trade... Marjon at this point for me is another guy that hasn't really shown me enough to stay on the team and let's face it if we could unload a few guys from the bench we could call up the center from the g league... And tbh I would also try to get AJ Johnson back on the roster at the end of the bench to learn and grow alongside Rollins... I think AJ has a lot of potential... Along with Tyler Smith
Would you do Marjon for Reath followed by Khris Pat and Bobby for Lavine, Craig, and Horton Tucker. Attach whatever picks to make them happen. I’m almost certain the numbers work and it gets us under the second apron but would still need to open a spot for Rollins
This seems completely pointless. Craig and Tucker are not upgrades. Lavine is an injury prone headache. We already have that in our franchise player khris.
@ Marjon for Reath gives us the athletic big we need. Craig gives us another defensive 4, Horton gives us another ball handler, and Lavine is younger and I love KMid but at this point Lavine is an upgrade on athleticism, defense and is currently in the best year of his career. So how is this not an upgrade when Marjon and Pat don’t even play. The only loss is Bobby’s offense.
@@ericbarton9856 Reath would be a moot point--which is all we can get from Marjon. Reath would not see the floor. He's also not an athletic big. Craig is CONSTANTLY injured... Horton Tucker is a nobody with very little upside... Are you trying to insinuate these nobodies are better than two champions who are never hurt and always available? Lavine's athleticism is an upgrade, but Lavine is 30... it's not going to improve, it's going to decline... Khris is a facilitator which is what we need for the bucks. The issue with khris production really isn't khris himself--it's dame locking him out of the offense. I'm not trying to be harsh, but that's very clear.
Long as we stay alway from butler and Beal I’m open on Lavine i just don’t wanna trade alway a lot for these guys. Grant is a no but as currently constructed im not sure we are a championship team. We won the IC title but the world championship I’m just not sure 🤔
Camille, I dont care about Khris and Giannis' chemistry. I honestly think Giannis wanna get rid of Khris. Why wouldn't he? Khris has been missing games since 2022 and he's just hurting the Bucks. The sad truth is haters grill Giannis when the Bucks struggle but they have nothing to say about khris who has actually been one of the main reasons why the Bucks are trash. How is your 3rd player averaging 12 points?🤔.
I hate to use Payton Pritchard as the example but he's averaging 14 pts, shoots better from 3, doesn't miss games, and is like the 6th player on their team. Please stop it with this big 3 stuff on the Bucks.
@@panagiotisantonakas9603 Yes, I saw last yr's playoffs. have you seen Khris Middleton overall playoffs records? Khris Middleton had nothing to lose. Why? Bc first of all Giannis was not there so the Bucks weren't expected to win. 2nd, the Pacers had beaten the Bucks so badly that nobody thought the Bucks were going to win ANYWAY. Y'all aren't fooling me. Dude has been missing games since 2022 and y'all are talking about the playoffs. I needs points RIGHT NOW. When the Bucks fail they will not blame Khris at all. They'll come after Giannis as they always have done. You are asking me if I saw Khris' playoffs last yr? Have you seen Khris' overall playoffs records?
The trade I want to see the Bucks pursue: MIL & TOR (or a multi-team combo focused around this exchange for the Bucks) TOR: Out - Kelly Olynyk & Garrett Temple In - Bobby Portis & Pat Connaughton MIL: Out - Bobby Portis & Pat Connaughton In - Kelly Olynyk & Garrett Temple Would this deal even require attaching the Bucks’ ‘31 2nd Round pick? It can be argued that TOR (or another in a multi-team deal) is landing the best player in Bobby within this particular exchange, so maybe they don’t mind taking on Pat’s salary without demanding a draft asset from the Bucks in return. If it’s needed, then add it, but maybe that’s why the Bucks seek a 3rd team who’s willing to give TOR a draft asset for Bobby. With this deal the Bucks get under the 2nd apron which is a key goal. They should then waive/buyout Temple, sign Rollins to the 15-man roster, and look to make a separate trade with MarJon for added bench insurance depth in the frontcourt or at wing by seeking a roster bubble guy who could fill-in in an emergency or fulfill a small niche role for this team; maybe a guy like: Kai Jones Daniel Theis *Orlando Robinson Karlo Matkovic Oscar Tshiebwe Tristan Vukcevic Colin Castleton Isaac Jones Christian Koloko * Orlando is currently on a 10-day contract with TOR. In an ideal world, the Bucks could pull off the deal with TOR without including the ‘31 2nd and instead pair that pick with MarJon to nab Duop Reath or Charles Bassey or Jeremiah Robinson-Earl. After swinging the main deal the Bucks would be hard-capped at the 2nd apron with just $610k of space. That’s all the room they'd have to sign Rollins to a prorated standard contract, unless they can clear more salary in another transaction like the MarJon deal. Rollins has just 16 games left on his Two-Way deal. Waiving Temple likely doesn’t get the team out of his cap hit. If Rollins dresses for every game between now and 2/27, he'll have reached his Two-Way limit. If the Bucks sign him to a standard deal the next day, it’ll be worth $516k and just slides them in beneath the 2nd apron. Without a MarJon deal that creates more space the Bucks could not sign him before 2/21. Just some information to note. Now, I’d also like to see the starting lineup adjusted slightly. Starters: PG: Dame SG: Green or Gary SF: Prince PF: Giannis C: Brook 6th Man: F - Khris Bench Depth: PG - Johnson G - Ryan G - Delon G/SF - Andre SG/SF - Gary (or SG - Green) F - Chris PF - Tyler C/PF - Kelly F/C - ? Top 8 Rotation: Dame Green Prince Giannis Brook Khris Gary Kelly Unique Rotation Piece (9th): Andre 10th Man: Ryan Notes: Khris should be the team’s defacto 6th man who hopefully can begin to average 30+ minutes a game. He should also see a scoring bump too after jettisoning Bobby’s usage rate from the team. Andre should become more of a direct substitution in place of Giannis when he comes off the court and as a matchup specialist if he does overlap with Giannis on the court instead of the default 5th starter who’s averaging ~17mins/game. I view Kelly as an outright replacement for Brook in matchups that aren’t great for Brook and to be his primary backup to alleviate Giannis from having to play much Center; particularly, during the regular season. I can’t imagine Kelly doesn’t immediately provide a noticeable defensive upgrade (+ rim protection) over Bobby at Center and he’s a much better connective team facilitator too - aka less stagnant ISO offense. Bucks then just need to use the second half of the season (post trade deadline) to build team chemistry and rapport with the new roster addition(s). Hopefully, everyone is healthy and all the proverbial gears are working as they should come the playoffs. With Giannis being arguably the best two-way player in the NBA and on a team that puts itself solidly into the top 10 in offense, defense, and net rating there’s certainly a decent shot at upsetting all the East championship favorites to reach the Finals even if it feels far-fetched given the poor record against those teams thus far. Thoughts? I honestly don’t believe the Bucks need to move Khris Middleton nor Brook in some blockbuster deal to improve; in fact, I believe a move like that comes with greater risks to regress.
The Bucks need consistent outside shooting when Giannis kicks it out when he's being double or triple teamed. They need someone who can get buckets in crucial times of the game. I don't think they have that on a consistent basis. They will need that to beat the better teams.
First of All...Giannis have ONE problem...If GA Play 5?...3 Fouls in 10 Minutes...He Knows it...Every who Follow GA for Years KNOW this...Thats why he LOVES Brook because take away the Foul Problem...For the Bucks...1.Dame- 2. (?? Guard-Forward)- 3.Prince- 4.Giannis - 5.Brook....6.GaryTrent- 7.(??Quick Feet Center)- 8.Jackson - 9.AJ Green- 10.Rollins....OUT are (Middleton-Portis-Pat)....So You need Defender Center and Defender Guard-Forward
This makes the rotation as follows... Dame AJAX Cam Johnson Giannis Brooke Prince Khris Green / Trent Rollins Then you keep an eye on the buy out market for a big that can hold over minutes.
Second Trade Idea, but is a huge stretch. Bucks Get: - Cam Johnson - Nic Claxton - Paul Reed Pistons Get: - Bobby Portis - Chris Livingston Nets Get: - Khris Middleton - Pat C - AJ Johnson - Marjon - MIL 2031 1st - DET 2028 1st - MIL 2031 2nd
Bucks do the deal: Obvious reasons, but get a younger Khris in Cam Johnson, and get a younger Brooke in Claxton. That really stretches the competitive window. Pistons do the deal: Get a scoring backup big Nets do the deal: Not sure, lol, but they get two 1sts and could probably swap Khris for another first. They also get a guard with lots of potential in AJ Johnson.
Happy birthday Justin!! 🎉
Bucks should not look to do anything major. I believe this team is capable of beating any team in a 7 game series AS CONSTRUCTED besides the Knicks--we can't seem to be competitive with them.
Anyway, get below the 2nd apron and wait till off season to make significant changes as needed. Don't mess with the fragile ecosystem.
This team as is won’t be enough…A move is needed
Can they makes some moves to bring up Ibou Badji from the Herd
Happy birthday Justin 🎉
Happy birthday justin! Glad your on the bucks squad! 🦌🦌🦌
Thoughts on Larry Nance jr?
Happy Birthday Justin!
I ll try to get Miles Turner here and a backup point that can defend.
Well said athletic big for bench minutes. Everyone takes Brook for granted
I'm not in favor of doing it, but I think I'd only be interested in a Jimmy trade as a rental for this year, and would want to be sure he opts out of his option. This would in theory let the Bucks get off the Khris, Bobby, Pat contracts early and try to re-tool this offseason with a lot more flexibility.
happy bday to the legend, im in the small move to give rollins an aj green contract and open a buyout slot (can we do that over the 2nd?) health and time. if its not lavine i dont have any interest in the big names.
The name I keep hearing that Im most interested in is Miroslav Raduljica
I loke the miles turner idea if we could get him for bobby and Pat... Although i hate the idea of getting rid of Bobby....but the thing i love about turner is his 3 point shot
Irregardless I would trade Pat for a pick with Detroit just to get below the second apron if you can't use him for a trade... Marjon at this point for me is another guy that hasn't really shown me enough to stay on the team and let's face it if we could unload a few guys from the bench we could call up the center from the g league... And tbh I would also try to get AJ Johnson back on the roster at the end of the bench to learn and grow alongside Rollins... I think AJ has a lot of potential... Along with Tyler Smith
we need to win now, we have 5 more years of giannis; if not sooner, he wants to win and he deserves it.
Would you do Marjon for Reath followed by Khris Pat and Bobby for Lavine, Craig, and Horton Tucker. Attach whatever picks to make them happen. I’m almost certain the numbers work and it gets us under the second apron but would still need to open a spot for Rollins
This seems completely pointless. Craig and Tucker are not upgrades.
Lavine is an injury prone headache. We already have that in our franchise player khris.
@ Marjon for Reath gives us the athletic big we need. Craig gives us another defensive 4, Horton gives us another ball handler, and Lavine is younger and I love KMid but at this point Lavine is an upgrade on athleticism, defense and is currently in the best year of his career. So how is this not an upgrade when Marjon and Pat don’t even play. The only loss is Bobby’s offense.
@@ericbarton9856 Reath would be a moot point--which is all we can get from Marjon. Reath would not see the floor. He's also not an athletic big.
Craig is CONSTANTLY injured...
Horton Tucker is a nobody with very little upside... Are you trying to insinuate these nobodies are better than two champions who are never hurt and always available?
Lavine's athleticism is an upgrade, but Lavine is 30... it's not going to improve, it's going to decline... Khris is a facilitator which is what we need for the bucks. The issue with khris production really isn't khris himself--it's dame locking him out of the offense. I'm not trying to be harsh, but that's very clear.
Would love to get Paul reed
First question, are we going for a championship? If the answer is yes we need to make a move or we do nothing and hope for the best. 😊
No trade you got players use them more
Happy Birthday! I bought you a chorizo breakfast burrito from downstairs 🌯
Long as we stay alway from butler and Beal I’m open on Lavine i just don’t wanna trade alway a lot for these guys. Grant is a no but as currently constructed im not sure we are a championship team. We won the IC title but the world championship I’m just not sure 🤔
Camille, I dont care about Khris and Giannis' chemistry. I honestly think Giannis wanna get rid of Khris. Why wouldn't he? Khris has been missing games since 2022 and he's just hurting the Bucks. The sad truth is haters grill Giannis when the Bucks struggle but they have nothing to say about khris who has actually been one of the main reasons why the Bucks are trash. How is your 3rd player averaging 12 points?🤔.
I wouldn’t say Bucks are trash bruh
Have you seen last year's playoffs?
I hate to use Payton Pritchard as the example but he's averaging 14 pts, shoots better from 3, doesn't miss games, and is like the 6th player on their team. Please stop it with this big 3 stuff on the Bucks.
@@panagiotisantonakas9603 Yes, I saw last yr's playoffs. have you seen Khris Middleton overall playoffs records? Khris Middleton had nothing to lose. Why? Bc first of all Giannis was not there so the Bucks weren't expected to win. 2nd, the Pacers had beaten the Bucks so badly that nobody thought the Bucks were going to win ANYWAY. Y'all aren't fooling me. Dude has been missing games since 2022 and y'all are talking about the playoffs. I needs points RIGHT NOW.
When the Bucks fail they will not blame Khris at all. They'll come after Giannis as they always have done. You are asking me if I saw Khris' playoffs last yr? Have you seen Khris' overall playoffs records?
@@panagiotisantonakas9603khris had double ankle surgery since last years playoffs lol
The trade I want to see the Bucks pursue:
MIL & TOR (or a multi-team combo focused around this exchange for the Bucks)
TOR:
Out - Kelly Olynyk & Garrett Temple
In - Bobby Portis & Pat Connaughton
MIL:
Out - Bobby Portis & Pat Connaughton
In - Kelly Olynyk & Garrett Temple
Would this deal even require attaching the Bucks’ ‘31 2nd Round pick?
It can be argued that TOR (or another in a multi-team deal) is landing the best player in Bobby within this particular exchange, so maybe they don’t mind taking on Pat’s salary without demanding a draft asset from the Bucks in return. If it’s needed, then add it, but maybe that’s why the Bucks seek a 3rd team who’s willing to give TOR a draft asset for Bobby.
With this deal the Bucks get under the 2nd apron which is a key goal. They should then waive/buyout Temple, sign Rollins to the 15-man roster, and look to make a separate trade with MarJon for added bench insurance depth in the frontcourt or at wing by seeking a roster bubble guy who could fill-in in an emergency or fulfill a small niche role for this team; maybe a guy like:
Kai Jones
Daniel Theis
*Orlando Robinson
Karlo Matkovic
Oscar Tshiebwe
Tristan Vukcevic
Colin Castleton
Isaac Jones
Christian Koloko
* Orlando is currently on a 10-day contract with TOR.
In an ideal world, the Bucks could pull off the deal with TOR without including the ‘31 2nd and instead pair that pick with MarJon to nab Duop Reath or Charles Bassey or Jeremiah Robinson-Earl.
After swinging the main deal the Bucks would be hard-capped at the 2nd apron with just $610k of space. That’s all the room they'd have to sign Rollins to a prorated standard contract, unless they can clear more salary in another transaction like the MarJon deal. Rollins has just 16 games left on his Two-Way deal. Waiving Temple likely doesn’t get the team out of his cap hit.
If Rollins dresses for every game between now and 2/27, he'll have reached his Two-Way limit. If the Bucks sign him to a standard deal the next day, it’ll be worth $516k and just slides them in beneath the 2nd apron. Without a MarJon deal that creates more space the Bucks could not sign him before 2/21. Just some information to note.
Now, I’d also like to see the starting lineup adjusted slightly.
Starters:
PG: Dame
SG: Green or Gary
SF: Prince
PF: Giannis
C: Brook
6th Man:
F - Khris
Bench Depth:
PG - Johnson
G - Ryan
G - Delon
G/SF - Andre
SG/SF - Gary (or SG - Green)
F - Chris
PF - Tyler
C/PF - Kelly
F/C - ?
Top 8 Rotation:
Dame
Green
Prince
Giannis
Brook
Khris
Gary
Kelly
Unique Rotation Piece (9th):
Andre
10th Man:
Ryan
Notes:
Khris should be the team’s defacto 6th man who hopefully can begin to average 30+ minutes a game. He should also see a scoring bump too after jettisoning Bobby’s usage rate from the team.
Andre should become more of a direct substitution in place of Giannis when he comes off the court and as a matchup specialist if he does overlap with Giannis on the court instead of the default 5th starter who’s averaging ~17mins/game.
I view Kelly as an outright replacement for Brook in matchups that aren’t great for Brook and to be his primary backup to alleviate Giannis from having to play much Center; particularly, during the regular season. I can’t imagine Kelly doesn’t immediately provide a noticeable defensive upgrade (+ rim protection) over Bobby at Center and he’s a much better connective team facilitator too - aka less stagnant ISO offense.
Bucks then just need to use the second half of the season (post trade deadline) to build team chemistry and rapport with the new roster addition(s). Hopefully, everyone is healthy and all the proverbial gears are working as they should come the playoffs. With Giannis being arguably the best two-way player in the NBA and on a team that puts itself solidly into the top 10 in offense, defense, and net rating there’s certainly a decent shot at upsetting all the East championship favorites to reach the Finals even if it feels far-fetched given the poor record against those teams thus far.
Thoughts?
I honestly don’t believe the Bucks need to move Khris Middleton nor Brook in some blockbuster deal to improve; in fact, I believe a move like that comes with greater risks to regress.
Good take guys. First thing we should go after is that athletic big. All those other trades should be our last resort. Oh and happy birthday Justin! 💯
The Bucks need consistent outside shooting when Giannis kicks it out when he's being double or triple teamed. They need someone who can get buckets in crucial times of the game. I don't think they have that on a consistent basis. They will need that to beat the better teams.
First of All...Giannis have ONE problem...If GA Play 5?...3 Fouls in 10 Minutes...He Knows it...Every who Follow GA for Years KNOW this...Thats why he LOVES Brook because take away the Foul Problem...For the Bucks...1.Dame- 2. (?? Guard-Forward)- 3.Prince- 4.Giannis - 5.Brook....6.GaryTrent- 7.(??Quick Feet Center)- 8.Jackson - 9.AJ Green- 10.Rollins....OUT are (Middleton-Portis-Pat)....So You need Defender Center and Defender Guard-Forward
Lol brother you need help
connaughton, middy, portis to portland for Rob Will, Jereami Grant, Duop reath
Cam Johnson!! My idea is..
Bucks Get:
- Cam Johnson
Nets Get:
- Bobby
- Pat C
- AJ Johnson
- Marjon
- 2031 1st
- 2031 2nd
This makes the rotation as follows...
Dame
AJAX
Cam Johnson
Giannis
Brooke
Prince
Khris
Green / Trent
Rollins
Then you keep an eye on the buy out market for a big that can hold over minutes.
Second Trade Idea, but is a huge stretch.
Bucks Get:
- Cam Johnson
- Nic Claxton
- Paul Reed
Pistons Get:
- Bobby Portis
- Chris Livingston
Nets Get:
- Khris Middleton
- Pat C
- AJ Johnson
- Marjon
- MIL 2031 1st
- DET 2028 1st
- MIL 2031 2nd
Bucks do the deal: Obvious reasons, but get a younger Khris in Cam Johnson, and get a younger Brooke in Claxton. That really stretches the competitive window.
Pistons do the deal: Get a scoring backup big
Nets do the deal: Not sure, lol, but they get two 1sts and could probably swap Khris for another first. They also get a guard with lots of potential in AJ Johnson.
What are they gonna do with Khris? Khris needs to be on a contender like OKC, Rockets...where he gets 8 mils a yr and plays very limited minutes.