OMG. Dr. McGilchrist, please, please, please STOP. This guy is consistently blowing my mind with just this beautiful, intuitive eloquence, touching on one topic after another, while referencing so many disciplines. My brain simply cannot handle so much excellence XD
I would recommend his book, it is a long read but it pretty much blew my mind on every page - an absolutely fascinating perspective on ourselves and our world.
I've read it already. Several years ago actually and enjoyed it though I often had to read the same sentence more than once because British English is different than American English even on a syntactical level.
The charts and info starting at 1:04:00 pretty much nails society and the description of left hemisphere-dominant art blew me away with how closely it describes the current trends in music and visual art. He's definitely on to something. If you're interested in his theory and want to see it applied to the history of philosophy and spirituality check out "Secret Teachers of the Western World" by Gary Lachman.
Joe Williams Thank you, fellow human brother. Totally agree. This man is on to something, there is much truth here. The quick analysis of the panting of the myth (could get the name, he says it’s in oxford) just dropped the nickel for me
I once bought a book titled Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain and completed the exercises. I went to a movie theater. As I was watching the movie, it was incredible, my mind ignored the storyline and dialogue and only saw shapes and shades! It was extraordinary! I viewed the movie from a purely right brain spacial experience.
In part I would say yes. I make art and always ran into trouble exactly because of these tensions, in artschool and later. Underneath, meanwhile and also coming into culture; there is art that isn't damaged under the 'left-brain' and is balanced. The arts became increasingly a sort of intellectual pop-culture and/or political - which doesn't do much good.
The problem with the financial crisis is not that they didn't learn from experience, it's just that they, in most cases, wilfully ignored what they knew to be wrong. I had a moderate Christian upbringing, it's easy at times to feel like a sucker and a damn fool for allowing basic easy to understand values, virtues, to put repressive moral chains on my appetites, to live within my means, to try and live with integrity and honesty and above all, as a man, to take care that women absolutely must not fancy admiration (read sex appeal, natural power) means more than it does... That is fatal. Captain Cook, whilst in Tahiti, allegedly reflected on how a certain capt Wallis, who on a previous visit to Tahiti on a ship called the Dolphin and how the 'free love' was such that what was supposedly free soon escalated. The natives having a desire for metal, not least nails, the 'free love' as ever soon asserted it's bartering power and some of the crew even resorting to plying nails out of their own ship to the extent that they almost rendered it unseaworthy. We live on planet Dolphin, Wake Up!!
Where did he read the Nietzsche Quote? "beauty speaks to people through art incontrovertibly, and produces a greater degree of agreement than any rationalism ever could. Nothing less convincing than argument as the experience of every meeting in which there are speeches proves"
Ken Wilber derived many of his ideas, philosophical structures and words from Adi Da Samraj, who first coined the words and realised the understandings. Adi Da often championed the primacy of the right brain in his writings.
this is so interesting. is anyone familier with the books he mentions at around 23:30. What is life is the title of the book. I can't seem to find it anywhere...
"Questioner: Could you tell us the purpose of the frontal lobes of the brain and the conditions necessary for their activation? Ra: I am Ra. The frontal lobes of the brain will, shall we say, have much more use in fourth density. The primary mental/emotive condition of this large area of the so-called brain is joy or love in its creative sense. Thus, the energies which we have discussed in relationship to the pyramids - all of the healing, the learning, the building, and the energizing - are to be found in this area. This is the area tapped by the adept. This is the area which, working through the trunk and root of mind, makes contact with intelligent energy and through this gateway, intelligent infinity. ~*~ Ra: I am Ra. The spiraling energy [of the pyramid] is beginning to be diffused at the point where it goes through the King’s Chamber position. However, although the spirals continue to intersect, closing and opening in double spiral fashion through the apex angle, the diffusion or strength of the spiraling energies, red through violet color values, lessens if we speak of strength, and gains, if we speak of diffusion, until at the peak of the pyramid you have a very weak color resolution useful for healing purposes. Thus the King’s Chamber position is chosen as the first spiral after the centered beginning through the Queen’s Chamber position. You may visualize the diffusion angle as the opposite of the pyramid angle but the angle being less wide than the apex angle of the pyramid, being somewhere between 33 and 54°, depending upon the various rhythms of the planet itself." Ra: 61, 13; 56, 6
32:10 ...F.N. has several such. Expressed in differing phrase and ....... Context ! Or ; not the only instance he'd pre-empted neuroscientific findings. This is a delight !
"what's more bizarre..the squares A & B are the same color....you'll have to take my word for it" 34:40 . Left side says perhaps because Iain McGilchrist says so....but my Right side kicked in so I don't think so.....perhaps you mean the actual letters A & B are the same color?
They are infact of same color, when u strip away all the surrounding references. It is almost impossible to see in the whole. Just copy a piece of screen from both boxes and paste in a document.
What a rollercoaster... kept going from: yes, that makes so much sense and oh, he is entertaining in teaching; to no no no- that is a horrible analogy.
34:55 four sizes of cereal packets I’m reminded of a similar musing I had decades ago but probably never voiced. Why is it that the smallest size available at Starbucks is “grande?”
Hey Dude, I love you! But you should write a book on why people use their left side more...1/12 of the population, me included and let me tell you it has made a difference. And the way my brain has to whirl to produce what the "right" world wants.
What is the point of this? Any university undergraduate can argue a case about anything using quotes from here there and every where .... and why the snipe at Richard Dawkins, who is a perfectly respectable scholar?
Phillip, Have you ever watched him speak? I find his matter of fact holier than thou attitude to be extremely hubris. Watch him and his theories get shot down in flames by Ben Stein's movie Expelled. Where just by simply asking questions Stein gets Dawkins to admit creation is better than evolution. It's a good watch. I just find Dawkins very narcissistic. Most people do. The fact that mainstream has become extremely prejudiced against any kind of mention of any intelligent design has a lot to do with his work. That might be why. No disrespect intended just trying to answer your question. Mainstream science doesn't even give any credence to intuition. and very adamantly have this stance of we know everything it is no theory it is settled get over it! That to me is nonsense
Well, I wouldn't cite Ben Stein to make my case. But the argument I hear from people is that the problem with Dawkins is he's a great evolutionary biologist but then he applies that reasoning to other areas, still sounding as if he's an expert in anything he wants to comment on because he's eloquent and well-respected in one field. Another complaint is that his work is very reductionist and he is incapable of seeing anything past the tip of his nose. We have a society which is dominated by left brain hemisphere-dominant thinking and Dawkins and some of his fellow prominent atheists aren't any better than religious fundamentalists when it comes to wanting to define the universe for everyone else based on what they think about God or a lack thereof. I'd call myself an atheist if pressed, but I think as a society we're going down the wrong path to think that Aristotelian logic tells the whole story about the universe and consciousness and how they fit together. The fact we're destroying the planet and can't seem to acknowledge it is the best evidence that something is massively wrong in the way we see the world and our place in it. I think the most dangerous part is, as shown in the presentation near the end, that left brain-dominant thinking leads to fundamentalist and fascism and that seems to be where we are headed as a culture and some balance would be nice if we want a future for humanity.
When you take a two-part system and reduce it to only one (i.e. rationalism), you break Einstein's cardinal law: Make everything as simple as possible but not simpler. Ergo, you lose your credibility (no matter how great some of your ideas may be). Harris, Pinker, Dawkins...pretty much everyone on the Enlightenment bandwagon.
Maybe reducing "the story" to sexual selection might well leave out a lot but what do you think Shakespeare meant by much ado about nothing? It's pure irony, the predominant themes in Shakespeare are indeed about 'nothing'.
OMG. Dr. McGilchrist, please, please, please STOP. This guy is consistently blowing my mind with just this beautiful, intuitive eloquence, touching on one topic after another, while referencing so many disciplines. My brain simply cannot handle so much excellence XD
Beautiful as always, Dr. Iian McGilchrist .
🙏❤️🌎🌿🕊🎵🎶🎵
Many blessings for 2024.
Bravo 👏
I would recommend his book, it is a long read but it pretty much blew my mind on every page - an absolutely fascinating perspective on ourselves and our world.
I've read it already. Several years ago actually and enjoyed it though I often had to read the same sentence more than once because British English is different than American English even on a syntactical level.
Yes he is pretty long winded
Dr Ian McGilchrist you are fantastic! Ordered the book on amazon I know it will blow my mind
The charts and info starting at 1:04:00 pretty much nails society and the description of left hemisphere-dominant art blew me away with how closely it describes the current trends in music and visual art. He's definitely on to something.
If you're interested in his theory and want to see it applied to the history of philosophy and spirituality check out "Secret Teachers of the Western World" by Gary Lachman.
Joe Williams Thank you, fellow human brother. Totally agree. This man is on to something, there is much truth here. The quick analysis of the panting of the myth (could get the name, he says it’s in oxford) just dropped the nickel for me
He knows the sign of the times alright. Really prophetic.
I once bought a book titled Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain and completed the exercises. I went to a movie theater. As I was watching the movie, it was incredible, my mind ignored the storyline and dialogue and only saw shapes and shades! It was extraordinary! I viewed the movie from a purely right brain spacial experience.
22:00 Pattern recognition as the connecting factor between Logos and Mythos
I agree we have become dependent on the left brain and abandoned creativity. Can you agree the arts are exact copies and no longer inspired?
In part I would say yes. I make art and always ran into trouble exactly because of these tensions, in artschool and later. Underneath, meanwhile and also coming into culture; there is art that isn't damaged under the 'left-brain' and is balanced.
The arts became increasingly a sort of intellectual pop-culture and/or political - which doesn't do much good.
A Truly great book . . . I will read it again . . . and take notes.
Here because of Wal Thornhill's advice from Thunderbolts. Excellent !
Very delighted to be learning about I.M.
If only this was more generally known
The problem with the financial crisis is not that they didn't learn from experience, it's just that they, in most cases, wilfully ignored what they knew to be wrong. I had a moderate Christian upbringing, it's easy at times to feel like a sucker and a damn fool for allowing basic easy to understand values, virtues, to put repressive moral chains on my appetites, to live within my means, to try and live with integrity and honesty and above all, as a man, to take care that women absolutely must not fancy admiration (read sex appeal, natural power) means more than it does... That is fatal.
Captain Cook, whilst in Tahiti, allegedly reflected on how a certain capt Wallis, who on a previous visit to Tahiti on a ship called the Dolphin and how the 'free love' was such that what was supposedly free soon escalated. The natives having a desire for metal, not least nails, the 'free love' as ever soon asserted it's bartering power and some of the crew even resorting to plying nails out of their own ship to the extent that they almost rendered it unseaworthy.
We live on planet Dolphin, Wake Up!!
Woahhh mind blowing 🤯🤯
Beautiful!
Bravo🤚🏻
Where did he read the Nietzsche Quote? "beauty speaks to people through art incontrovertibly, and produces a greater degree of agreement than any rationalism ever could. Nothing less convincing than argument as the experience of every meeting in which there are speeches proves"
@Mike Fuller Thanks. I love Goethe's Faust. :D
I've been following for several years now...some pretty good shit!
Ken Wilber derived many of his ideas, philosophical structures and words from Adi Da Samraj, who first coined the words and realised the understandings. Adi Da often championed the primacy of the right brain in his writings.
Mythos and logos can both be true. Also, pattern recognition is different than the "Chinese menu method."
this is so interesting.
is anyone familier with the books he mentions at around 23:30.
What is life is the title of the book.
I can't seem to find it anywhere...
What is life Andy Prouse
Correction Andy Prosse Amazon
"Questioner: Could you tell us the purpose of the frontal lobes of the brain and the conditions necessary for their activation?
Ra: I am Ra. The frontal lobes of the brain will, shall we say, have much more use in fourth density.
The primary mental/emotive condition of this large area of the so-called brain is joy or love in its creative sense. Thus, the energies which we have discussed in relationship to the pyramids - all of the healing, the learning, the building, and the energizing - are to be found in this area. This is the area tapped by the adept. This is the area which, working through the trunk and root of mind, makes contact with intelligent energy and through this gateway, intelligent infinity.
~*~
Ra: I am Ra. The spiraling energy [of the pyramid] is beginning to be diffused at the point where it goes through the King’s Chamber position. However, although the spirals continue to intersect, closing and opening in double spiral fashion through the apex angle, the diffusion or strength of the spiraling energies, red through violet color values, lessens if we speak of strength, and gains, if we speak of diffusion, until at the peak of the pyramid you have a very weak color resolution useful for healing purposes.
Thus the King’s Chamber position is chosen as the first spiral after the centered beginning through the Queen’s Chamber position.
You may visualize the diffusion angle as the opposite of the pyramid angle but the angle being less wide than the apex angle of the pyramid, being somewhere between 33 and 54°, depending upon the various rhythms of the planet itself."
Ra: 61, 13; 56, 6
How's your granny off for soap?
10:45 ....Hi Sam !
32:10 ...F.N. has several such. Expressed in differing phrase and .......
Context !
Or ; not the only instance he'd pre-empted neuroscientific findings.
This is a delight !
How about why there so many American Baseball Players hit from their Right?
"what's more bizarre..the squares A & B are the same color....you'll have to take my word for it" 34:40 . Left side says perhaps because Iain McGilchrist says so....but my Right side kicked in so
I don't think so.....perhaps you mean the actual letters A & B are the same color?
They are infact of same color, when u strip away all the surrounding references. It is almost impossible to see in the whole. Just copy a piece of screen from both boxes and paste in a document.
What a rollercoaster... kept going from: yes, that makes so much sense and oh, he is entertaining in teaching; to no no no- that is a horrible analogy.
1:00:43 And their aquaducts, don't forget the aquaducts!
34:55 four sizes of cereal packets
I’m reminded of a similar musing I had decades ago but probably never voiced.
Why is it that the smallest size available at Starbucks is “grande?”
Hey Dude, I love you! But you should write a book on why people use their left side more...1/12 of the population, me included and let me tell you it has made a difference. And the way my brain has to whirl to produce what the "right" world wants.
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Johnson Charles Jackson Kimberly Martinez Kevin
Phones. 2020
What is the point of this? Any university undergraduate can argue a case about anything using quotes from here there and every where .... and why the snipe at Richard Dawkins, who is a perfectly respectable scholar?
Phillip, Have you ever watched him speak? I find his matter of fact holier than thou attitude to be extremely hubris. Watch him and his theories get shot down in flames by Ben Stein's movie Expelled. Where just by simply asking questions Stein gets Dawkins to admit creation is better than evolution. It's a good watch. I just find Dawkins very narcissistic. Most people do. The fact that mainstream has become extremely prejudiced against any kind of mention of any intelligent design has a lot to do with his work. That might be why. No disrespect intended just trying to answer your question. Mainstream science doesn't even give any credence to intuition. and very adamantly have this stance of we know everything it is no theory it is settled get over it! That to me is nonsense
Well, I wouldn't cite Ben Stein to make my case. But the argument I hear from people is that the problem with Dawkins is he's a great evolutionary biologist but then he applies that reasoning to other areas, still sounding as if he's an expert in anything he wants to comment on because he's eloquent and well-respected in one field. Another complaint is that his work is very reductionist and he is incapable of seeing anything past the tip of his nose.
We have a society which is dominated by left brain hemisphere-dominant thinking and Dawkins and some of his fellow prominent atheists aren't any better than religious fundamentalists when it comes to wanting to define the universe for everyone else based on what they think about God or a lack thereof. I'd call myself an atheist if pressed, but I think as a society we're going down the wrong path to think that Aristotelian logic tells the whole story about the universe and consciousness and how they fit together. The fact we're destroying the planet and can't seem to acknowledge it is the best evidence that something is massively wrong in the way we see the world and our place in it. I think the most dangerous part is, as shown in the presentation near the end, that left brain-dominant thinking leads to fundamentalist and fascism and that seems to be where we are headed as a culture and some balance would be nice if we want a future for humanity.
if you can't discern a point to this lecture, then perhaps you're too left-hemi dominant ;)
When you take a two-part system and reduce it to only one (i.e. rationalism), you break Einstein's cardinal law: Make everything as simple as possible but not simpler. Ergo, you lose your credibility (no matter how great some of your ideas may be).
Harris, Pinker, Dawkins...pretty much everyone on the Enlightenment bandwagon.
Omg man pls talk faster
Maybe reducing "the story" to sexual selection might well leave out a lot but what do you think Shakespeare meant by much ado about nothing? It's pure irony, the predominant themes in Shakespeare are indeed about 'nothing'.
Dalmatian dog? I see eyes that look more like friendly wolf. The rest is a terrible German School abstract...