Watching Wind River after Sicario is like recovering a little of the faith in humanity that I had been made to lose. I think it's striking how similar, yet different, these movies are. When I think of Kate and Alejandro I feel sick to my stomach and so very sorry for her. When I think of Jane and Cory I feel hope and warmth. I think, in their own ways, they are saying the same thing about people. They are what matters. The moment you lose sight of that, like Alejandro did, it doesn't matter what excuse you have for your actions, they will only add to the hurt of humanity. Cory, on the other hand, never lost that. Even by the end, he only went after the last rapist because Jane implicitly gave him her go-ahead. She, a good person, alive before him, came before his vengeance. To Alejandro, Kate was a vaguely nostalgic reminder of what he lost, but whatever value she held wasn't enough. To an extent, the same can be said for Jane and Kate. By the end of WR, Jane understood down to her bones the place and people she was immersed in, even with her limited time there. Kate, even by the very end of Sicario, still didn't.
Wind river is one of the best movies I’ve ever seen! In my top five of all time! Love the modern day western style and pretty much everything about Corys character! I wish I could find a book series that is similar to that movie!
I'm glad you're back to doing these types of videos. And that you chose Taylor Sheridan for your topic, the filmmaker I'm most excited about right now.
“..aren’t we all still deeply violent?” Really intriguing analysis, Tyler. I’m fascinated by the parallels between the two movies, but even moreso by their differences.
I think something that is missed in Wind River, is that Cory realizes during the events of the movie what the predator was that killed his daughter. The men that killed Matt, and raped Natalie, are the same that raped and killed his daughter. He put that together when he sees the tracks next to the lion's den, and realizes that those tracks came from where Matt was left.
Taylor Sheridan grew up in rural Texas on a ranch that had been in his family for generations, they then had that ranch taken from them unjustly when he was a young man, I am sure that left some scars on him and created a personal viewpoint of the world few in Hollywood will ever share or even remotely understand.
It is. But it doesn't parallel as closely with what I wanted to specifically focus on. Hell or High Water focuses more on the connecting themes of failed fathers but operates on a different character structure than Sicario and Wind River. I tried to incorporate it into the video, but it felt forced.
Loved both of these movies, went into wind river blind with some friends when it was on theatres, came out loving the somberness of the film and feeling it had similar qualities to Sicario, only finding out they have the same writer after the fact. Great video.
Dude, Taylor Sheridan did what, three or four films? I haven't seen Yellowstone, but his writing and directing (where applicable) of Wind River, Sicario and Hell or High Water became three fond favourites of mine, especially Sicario. I'd put them on the same level as No Country for Old Men, which to me is praise enough. Brilliant and imaginative, I can't wait to see his work continue.
Nice analysis. Even with Villenueve not being involved with Soldados, Sheridan's in charge of the screenplay. So I'm pretty much on board for this summer.
I think all 3 films end bleakly. SPOILERS FOR ALL!! In Sicaro one drug lord is killed but there is still many more who will immediately take his place. Hell or High Water the debts are successfully paid off but poverty still rages on. Wind River in my opinion doesn't end with showing how justice should be served. Instead it shows despite the bad guy getting killed the character will still be haunted by his daughter's death. I think the final scene makes it clear he doesn't find closure and nor does the family of Natalie. Even bleaker though it is one case solved out of 1000s of cases which will never be finished. The whole Trilogy always wants to make it clear what you're seeing is a very small story of many in the area it shows.
I think the trilogy does a great job of highlighting forgotten places and people in our country, for some people survival is day to day even in a country like America. Also I only truly appreciate these movies after spending a fair amount of time in these wild and vast states.
What's interesting about these stories is that they're like Dante's Inferno they take these fish out of water stories and use that idea to make the character and with that the viewer unsettled by what's happening
“..aren’t we all still deeply violent?” No. We can be driven to be violent but a species that is deeply violent towards itself fails to propagate. We are inherently good. BTW. I see a parallel between Juarez and Wind River reservation. Both are structures that make civilization difficult if not impossible.
I want josh brolin to join the cast cause his daughters on it maybe he could Casey’s old commander or something plus man all ready has the cowboy aesthetic
Love your videos, they are so well done! Who´s your favorite director? Mine is Denis Villeneuve. Have a nice evening friend, and keep on doing theese videoes! :))
mmm. What a question. If you asked me a couple years ago, I probably would've said Nolan. Now I'm not so sure. I'm a big Fincher fan and I like Villeneuve's more recent films (haven't seen anything pre-Enemy). I'm excited to see what Damien Chazelle will be doing with First Man and a tv show he is involved in. Sheridan shows a lot of promise but he definitely seems like he prefers the writing more than the directing (Soldado wasn't directed by him). It's a tough question.
The conclusion wasnt some thematic terantino-esq whoopdy doo jakson pollock art thing native americans and mexicans are facing different troubles and the movies illustrate them to socioty.
Are you really excited for a sequel to _Sicario???_ I dunno, I thought it was pretty perfect as it was. Because once you start making sequels, it doesn't matter how awesome they are at first-they ALL decline in quality sooner or later. I remember how perfectly the _Jason Bourne_ movies were tied together neatly in a trilogy, and even back in _2008_ they were talking about making a fourth one (which they did-it was called _Jason Bourne_ and it was terrible). I remember thinking to myself how bad of an idea that was, since they had a pretty great trilogy. But Hollywood NEVER quits while it's ahead-it always insists on blowing not only their movies with ridiculous franchises, but blowing a whole bunch of money and time as well.
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While both are very tragic movies, Sicario left me dazed and queasy, while Wind River left me sad, but consoled.
Sicario was so disturbing
Watching Wind River after Sicario is like recovering a little of the faith in humanity that I had been made to lose. I think it's striking how similar, yet different, these movies are. When I think of Kate and Alejandro I feel sick to my stomach and so very sorry for her. When I think of Jane and Cory I feel hope and warmth. I think, in their own ways, they are saying the same thing about people. They are what matters. The moment you lose sight of that, like Alejandro did, it doesn't matter what excuse you have for your actions, they will only add to the hurt of humanity. Cory, on the other hand, never lost that. Even by the end, he only went after the last rapist because Jane implicitly gave him her go-ahead. She, a good person, alive before him, came before his vengeance. To Alejandro, Kate was a vaguely nostalgic reminder of what he lost, but whatever value she held wasn't enough. To an extent, the same can be said for Jane and Kate. By the end of WR, Jane understood down to her bones the place and people she was immersed in, even with her limited time there. Kate, even by the very end of Sicario, still didn't.
Wind river is one of the best movies I’ve ever seen! In my top five of all time! Love the modern day western style and pretty much everything about Corys character! I wish I could find a book series that is similar to that movie!
I'm glad you're back to doing these types of videos. And that you chose Taylor Sheridan for your topic, the filmmaker I'm most excited about right now.
These types of videos won't go away! Glad you like them.
These two and hell or high water are my favorite films and I never realized they were directed by the same director
They weren’t, they were WRITTEN by the same writer; Taylor Sheridan. Denis Villeneuve directed Sicario.
@@bchen0709 ohh thanks for the correction!
“..aren’t we all still deeply violent?” Really intriguing analysis, Tyler. I’m fascinated by the parallels between the two movies, but even moreso by their differences.
These movies are so good! I don't think I can choose which movie I like more.
And in Hell or High Water another Taylor Sheridan film and it’s still hard to decide
As a fan of Taylor Sheridan's work, I thoroughly enjoyed your analysis!
glad you liked it!
I think something that is missed in Wind River, is that Cory realizes during the events of the movie what the predator was that killed his daughter. The men that killed Matt, and raped Natalie, are the same that raped and killed his daughter. He put that together when he sees the tracks next to the lion's den, and realizes that those tracks came from where Matt was left.
Taylor Sheridan grew up in rural Texas on a ranch that had been in his family for generations, they then had that ranch taken from them unjustly when he was a young man, I am sure that left some scars on him and created a personal viewpoint of the world few in Hollywood will ever share or even remotely understand.
Isn't Hell or High Water not a part of this series of movies?
It is. But it doesn't parallel as closely with what I wanted to specifically focus on. Hell or High Water focuses more on the connecting themes of failed fathers but operates on a different character structure than Sicario and Wind River. I tried to incorporate it into the video, but it felt forced.
ah good point, I was just wondering. love to hear your thoughts on the movie.
Brilliant analysis.
thank you!
Loved both of these movies, went into wind river blind with some friends when it was on theatres, came out loving the somberness of the film and feeling it had similar qualities to Sicario, only finding out they have the same writer after the fact.
Great video.
I love both movies, now I know why. Thanks!
I love these movies so much, great analysis!
Keep it up Tyler. Your videos are great.
thanks so much!
Very good, I'm out of words
Great analysis. Just realized These Parallels exist
Dude, Taylor Sheridan did what, three or four films? I haven't seen Yellowstone, but his writing and directing (where applicable) of Wind River, Sicario and Hell or High Water became three fond favourites of mine, especially Sicario.
I'd put them on the same level as No Country for Old Men, which to me is praise enough. Brilliant and imaginative, I can't wait to see his work continue.
Tyler, that was a five star analysis, i got chill bumps an inch high, coz i feel a REAL STORM is coming, but death is not the end.
Well done. Great analysis. I'm glad I found this. I will subscribe.
Nice analysis 😃
This guy ...is brilliant
Nice analysis. Even with Villenueve not being involved with Soldados, Sheridan's in charge of the screenplay. So I'm pretty much on board for this summer.
this analysis just reminds me how much Jon Bernthal's characters get the shaft in both films
Bernthal goes out like a fucking hero in Wind River and by all indication was a stand up guy.
@@aurelianus1308 He absolutely was. I'm just saying afterwards his corpse is left buried in the snow to be fed upon by wild animals.
Great take.
I think all 3 films end bleakly.
SPOILERS FOR ALL!!
In Sicaro one drug lord is killed but there is still many more who will immediately take his place.
Hell or High Water the debts are successfully paid off but poverty still rages on.
Wind River in my opinion doesn't end with showing how justice should be served. Instead it shows despite the bad guy getting killed the character will still be haunted by his daughter's death. I think the final scene makes it clear he doesn't find closure and nor does the family of Natalie. Even bleaker though it is one case solved out of 1000s of cases which will never be finished.
The whole Trilogy always wants to make it clear what you're seeing is a very small story of many in the area it shows.
I think the trilogy does a great job of highlighting forgotten places and people in our country, for some people survival is day to day even in a country like America. Also I only truly appreciate these movies after spending a fair amount of time in these wild and vast states.
gr8 work !
What's interesting about these stories is that they're like Dante's Inferno they take these fish out of water stories and use that idea to make the character and with that the viewer unsettled by what's happening
“..aren’t we all still deeply violent?” No. We can be driven to be violent but a species that is deeply violent towards itself fails to propagate. We are inherently good.
BTW. I see a parallel between Juarez and Wind River reservation. Both are structures that make civilization difficult if not impossible.
3:48 Outfitter? You mean a tailor (if I am not wrong)? How would a tailor become a Fish and Wildlife agent?
Ashok kumar an outfitter is an individual who guides hunts. A very common job in Wyoming and the more rural parts of the world
@@Alphonso8143 I see. Thanks!
Good video
I want josh brolin to join the cast cause his daughters on it maybe he could Casey’s old commander or something plus man all ready has the cowboy aesthetic
Love your videos, they are so well done! Who´s your favorite director? Mine is Denis Villeneuve. Have a nice evening friend, and keep on doing theese videoes! :))
mmm. What a question. If you asked me a couple years ago, I probably would've said Nolan. Now I'm not so sure. I'm a big Fincher fan and I like Villeneuve's more recent films (haven't seen anything pre-Enemy). I'm excited to see what Damien Chazelle will be doing with First Man and a tv show he is involved in. Sheridan shows a lot of promise but he definitely seems like he prefers the writing more than the directing (Soldado wasn't directed by him). It's a tough question.
The conclusion wasnt some thematic terantino-esq whoopdy doo jakson pollock art thing native americans and mexicans are facing different troubles and the movies illustrate them to socioty.
Tarantino makes his conclusions that way to attract easy marketing. That's one of the problems I have with him.
Are you really excited for a sequel to _Sicario???_ I dunno, I thought it was pretty perfect as it was. Because once you start making sequels, it doesn't matter how awesome they are at first-they ALL decline in quality sooner or later. I remember how perfectly the _Jason Bourne_ movies were tied together neatly in a trilogy, and even back in _2008_ they were talking about making a fourth one (which they did-it was called _Jason Bourne_ and it was terrible). I remember thinking to myself how bad of an idea that was, since they had a pretty great trilogy. But Hollywood NEVER quits while it's ahead-it always insists on blowing not only their movies with ridiculous franchises, but blowing a whole bunch of money and time as well.
Soldado was a great sequel.
10/10
What is weird is it kinda shows what's happening here in 2020 in the whole and how it is being heard
Sicario, Hell or High Water, and Wind River are amazing.
700th Like, 50th comment. Excellent review!
Hey can you do Food Fight? It's a 2012 action/fantasy with an all star cast directed by Lawrence Kasanoff!
What’s the song playing?
"The Beast" and "Alejandro's Song" by the late Johann Johannson
nothing will make sense to you Americans here,and you will doubt everything that we do.
You gotta admit or not Jane was much better lady than Kate. Jane was atleast co operating and not stubborn like Kate.
Thoughts on Black Panther?
Wind River wasn’t very good. It was alright. Sicario is significantly better