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Valve when their community is causing ww3 due to lack of games and the rise of cheating:😴 Valve when Linus tech tips asks about their new oled realizing their greedy asses can make more money: 😄
It really blows my mind that so many other handheld makers put 1080p, 1200p, etc... screens in these handhelds when the resolution increase isn't that noticeable, but severely impacts other arguably more important aspects of the device like performance and battery life.
I think this shows what a great company valve is to work for. The people are genuinely excited about the stuff they work on and don't want to spoil the surprise. (I know that a room full of lawyers and NDAs probably helps too)
From Valves point of view, everything about this is fucking genius. They can reuse almost everything they already manufactured (new base model is basically just stock of the old models) and dont break compatibility with most stuff most people care about and make the experience a lot better for everyone. Really nicely done! I‘m honestly super impressed with this, and that‘s not even primarily looking at the actual improvements to the device.
They're clever enough to try and downgrade the SRGB feature for original Deck model to try and make the new OLED model seem more desirable. Sneaky company indeed.
If you watch the tear downs of the units though not really. They changed ton of internals, from colors, to sizes, to just new equipment in general. It’s definitely a whole new machine in there to the extent.
All about profit.. I bet these companies have the technology to make a steamdeck at the level of a ps5 or xbox one x. But they wouldnt probably win so mutch profit for going so advanced up. But thats just my thought.
I love Steam's dedication to customers. Everything changed here is EXACTLY what we've been asking for, even down to the metal screw housings. The only thing I don't like is the fact I bought mine a couple of months ago...
got it when it first dropped I guess the only upside is if you hang onto OG devices long enough like a game boy SP < hard to find an they can be expensive this device will end up being worth more in the long run.
While they do fund and make use of many open source projects, much of their own software is not. None of their game engines are open source, Steam is not open source, and while CAD files for the Deck are available, none of the Deck's hardware components are open source, and SteamOS 3 as a whole is not fully open source.
utterly disappointed they launched their ''steam deck 2'' only offering a a screen upgrade, while its cpu and gpu are quickly getting outdated and getting demolished by competition. The steam deck cant even get acceptable FPS in new titles such as Alan wake 2 and Starfield. They couldve upped the GPU to the 780m that almost all competitor handhelds are sporting right now, but no, a better screen that the outdated hardware won't be able to utilize.
The big secret is that you can please shareholders by pleasing consumers. It's tragic how few companies have clued into the obvious fact that being pro consumer can make people want to pay you more money than they need to.
@@awesomeferret Kinda. But pleasing customers usually means taking risks and looking long term. But especially with investors that are there just for money, they might not understand all the decision or just don't care, since what they are doing is playing stocks game. They are just going to jump ship if those risks fail or they might even interfere to put some cutthroat CEO in place to cut costs, which will short term bring things up.
I think the big thing to come from this is the price drop of the 256GB LCD model. The $399 model is now actually usable without having to spend extra for a microSD card or another SSD to replace the one it comes with, and it really puts pressure on the competition to either drop prices or to figure out how to justify their higher prices.
@@KnockOut101incyeah, but the entire experience is significantly worse on any Widows based handheld. With Steamdeck you can press a button to send it to sleep, come hours or days later, press the button and in a couple of seconds continue playing from where you were. I wouldn't trade Steamdeck overall experience even for twice performance and resolution. The most demanding AAA games I run on the desktop anyway, but for anything else Steamdeck is just perfect.
@@zigmar7 you can pause a game too on windows with hibernate mode. I always do that since forever with my laptop me personally what I miss from steam os is just the launcher and control settings.. other than that I prefer windows bcs I can instal other game launcher effortlessly and run any cool windows program like mod tools and community software
You can install windows on Deck. It’s super easy. I didn’t even have to wipe the internal storage. It runs off a SD card. The only problem is SD cards are slow AF like an old ass laptop HDD. It makes the Steam deck feel slower than it really is. But I was able to play Starfield on it. It was playable at the lowest settings if you don’t mind 20 to 25 FPS. Using windows is not so bad on Deck it opens up games that are not supported by Steam OS and Game Pass games. That’s how I played Starfield, through Game Pass. The only thing is the Steam Deck is so slow. Sometimes painfully slow. Battery life of original is 2 hours tops to 60 minutes for high demanding games.
One cool thing you didn't mention is that apparently the screen can now be removed without taking the steam deck apart to the same extent. This should make repairing the device and doing case swaps much easier.
This would be important considering that even the best modern OLED panels will have burn in over extended use. For a machine that will likely see decades of use to some extent from enthusiasts (people are still actively using Gameboys 40 years later), it's nice to know it won't be a hassle to swap out / replace/ upgrade the screen when the time comes.
@@lovelymusicnow4404 Apparently... Yes "Yet the biggest improvement to repairability would be that the Steam Deck OLED will no longer require you to remove the backplate if you need to replace the screen display. As iFixit's screen replacement guide points out, users will need to open the back of the original Steam Deck and remove things such as the motherboard and the heatsink just to remove the gadget's display properly." IGN
@@ThisUploaded yes and not look at asus oled laptop taskbar autohide pixel shit a whole bunch of stuff you can't disable . I also had plenty of samsung oled smartphone and zero burn in. Oled is not the same that 7 years ago it's miles better
@@thunderarch5951 Usually a product is revealed and then it takes a while for the embargo to end. But Valve had enough confidence in their product to lift the embargos when the product was revealed, which is rarely how embargos go.
13:19 For what it's worth, I like that Valve actually explained their design decisions. Between that, the unlocked bootloader, the improvements to repairability and their countless contributions to free/libre open source software, they show a lot of good faith for their customer base as a whole.
This makes me incredibly happy. Mainly because with valve aiming for HDR on the steamdeck there is a chance for better HDR support to trickle down into other linux distros.
It's not a chance. It's a certain. They have sponsored, helped with achieving several recent Linux desktop improvements already, mainly in relation to KDE plasma.
I mean it is already there. In alpha sure, but it is there. Only for AMD GPU`, sure, but it's there. Jokes aside it has been a feature being worked on since a while in KDE and GNOME already.
One thing I think needs mentioning is the significance of the 90 Hertz screen, not because a lot of games will be running at 90, but because a lot will be running at 40 or 45. The Steam Deck community has largely embraced the "golden 40" as a frame and refresh rate that is not that much more intensive to run than 30, but goes halfway to 60 in terms of frametimes, making it the optimal experience for games where hitting a native 60 isn't possible. The only problem is, you're downlocking the screen to 40 hertz for it, and so if a frame of those 40 is slightly late, you're waiting a whole 25 ms of stutter for the next one, compared to just 16.6 ms if running 30fps @ 60 hz. With a 90 hertz screen running at 80, that 40fps frame coming in slightly late is gonna halve that stutter time to 12.5 ms, which is HUGE in practice. Great choice!
The 1TB is actually an insane value, a 1TB SSD was already around $100 anyway so buying the 512gb version to upgrade it doesn’t really make sense anymore
@@LoganChristiansonShow me where you can buy a 2tb ssd for 40$. Its litterly imposible. Houre just making stuff up for internet points and to try to sound smart
The fact that they made their product to be serviced and modded by the end user is amazing. Unlike everyone else who uses special screws and absurd amounts of adhesive. Great looking unit
This is a HUGE deal! The crummy screen was my biggest gripe with the Steam Deck, so getting not just an OLED display, but a well done HDR experience is nuts! And the extra battery life and the increase in storage is a nice touch! This is an instant game changer for games like Persona 5 Royal, where the black and red UI elements look absolutely stunning on OLED displays :D
This is not quite enough for me to upgrade, but that's only because I already love my steam deck so much. I'm always glad to see that valve is really putting their all into this new platform.
I feel so bad, I want that OLED and better battery but putting like 400€ on top of my old Steam Deck would be too much to upgrade. At least I expect fsr 3.0 to improve the Steam Deck in performance.
@@imanoldurango8213 ited be perfect if we could just return and add money and have them resale....oh wait brb lol.......nvm yea still not worth it lol but gives me great hope for the next SD2
I think this is what will convince me to FINALLY order a Steam Deck through any means necessary and ship it down under. I was already spoiled with OLED on my phone and now on my Switch, and having a handheld PC with an OLED display just means that I will soon be adding it to my collection.
Probably same, waited because the normal one had shitty battery life, and screen was meh.. people scream for more performance but forget battery is like the most important thing on a portable device. Unless you only use it at home but buy a laptop/console at that point if you wanna game in the bed/couch imo
@@juraj_bthsts why hes saying he will get it and THEN hace it shipped down under....lots of reshippers online. i use one for some stuff that our state says are legal to buy and possess but not ship in the mail even though theyre legal in 49 othet states
@@juraj_bI assume that's where the "through any means necessary" comes in. Same story here in NZ (I imagine we'll get it when you do), but if you have contacts in parts of the world where it's available then anything's possible.
I am not going to complain about minor upgrades that make life better, allow older accessories to still be used and it does not cost (much) more than the original. And what they are doing for gaming on Linux is impressive as hell.
Seems to me that valve is doing everything they can to not "over promise" on anything steam deck related. And honestly that is refreshing. Also I am going to buy a new one. Mine has already been a hit with the wife
The fact that they didn't do any real price increases for this thing is actually AMAZING! Genuinely thinking about getting a Steam Deck at some point in the future now because of this as that is insane. Not to mention PROPER 1k nit HDR!
@@MrQuay03 can confirm, practiclly stopped buying games on any other platform (including the switch for that matter) when I got a steam deck. They of course might still work but it's just a so much bigger hassle now than just running the steam version (not to mention I've bought like 4 times the amount of games this year, the year I got my steam deck, than the last few years)
I'm kinda curious how they could even do a late refresh, I mean it has the latest and greatest tech to date now. I guess they could include a 2tb or even 4tb NVMe if that comes out by then.
@@MrWizardGG 1080p requires more power and battery. It's a net LOSS with the current hardware available and wouldnt meet the price point. Have you ever actually played on the deck? it looks sharp as hell at 800p honestly. and it runs games better for longer than the competitors in many cases at lower power. BTW every handheld has compromises
@@MrWizardGGThere’s spec sheet number and there’s experience you get when you actually use it. Something close example would be sony, apple devices. They’re always simple and low on spec sheet value but the value increases exponentially when you actually use it. Similarly the screen is low res because it’s native resolution the APU run games on. You won’t get blurry look on 1080p or 1440p unless they make custom 1600p screen which would require re engineering and make device more expensive. It would result in lower battery life, more heating and poor performance. What they did is make a balance of these things to deliver good device.
@@MrWizardGG 800p is more than usable at this size. stop crying, if you dont like the product, don't buy it. Oled + HDR 1000 nits peak clears your delusion
I love the fact they are bringing back the translucent shells for the exclusive one! I miss old controllers and Gameboys having those translucent cases of different colors
See limted edition. Falls in love with it. Checks steam to see when it can be bought. Sees the product with big disclaimer. Very disappointed with this. Valve supports very few countries officially with their hardware and they still can't offer the limited edition outside US and Canada?!
@@MrWizardGG You clearly missed the point of this product. Most people getting the deck already have a stronger gaming-capable PC and want to be able to play games from their Steam library (which you can't do on android natively) while on-the-go.
Based on Bill from The Nerd Nest's first impressions stream, as well as Gardiner Bryant, they do truly seem to be a significant improvement, especially when combined with the new haptics.
I appreciate the new charts very much. The highlighting is very helpful. I hope you iterate more on it as I think there are plenty of improvements to be had.
I'm totally jealous of the people who don't have a Steam Deck yet and are picking one of these up! The Steam Deck was already amazing and these upgrades really push it to the next level. Definitely not enough for me to consider upgrading though lol
Yes! I still don't have one. I was willing to accept the 60hz and LCD panel but I really wanted 1TB of storage because for me 512GB is extremely limited. This far surpassed my expectations for sure 😁
Ya, got one semi early on and this one is a great improvement! Glad to see that there is more to come lol. The deck was already well worth it, now it’s only even more so.
I'm jealous of people who can order Steam Decks at all... I live in Norway, we have never had access to the device... I'm quite pissed off to be honest that I cant order one :S
The improvements in design with this are looking pretty great! It's clear that Valve has people that are passionate about the steam deck working on it. Even as someone that mainly plays on Xbox, seeing this kind of work going into a relatively niche product gives me a reason to look forward to seeing what Valve does with consoles moving forward.
I wouldn't call the Steam Deck niche. More of my friends own a Steam Deck than any other console. But we're PC gamers so that isn't surprising I guess.
@setaindustries That's kind of why I would call it niche. It mostly apeals to a subset of PC gamers, which, while large, is still just a subset of gaming as a whole. A large percentage of people have heard of an Xbox, Playstation, or Switch, but outside of the enthusiast gaming community I don't think it is super well known. That could definitely change with the next generation of steam deck if Valve continues to take this product seriously.
@@setaindustries most people who see me other than my pc friends think i have a switch at first until i tell them, we pc gamers may know what a steamdeck is but trust me it's niche.
@@devbot99That's why we need to spread the word. The Steam Deck is honestly an incredible product and is a perfect first step for people to experience the limitless possibilities of PC gaming without breaking the bank.
This weight, battery and screen improvement is totally what I wanted on my current steam Deck. Is there an easy to way trade in for discount? 90hz screen will be so nice. Hopefully the next one in a couple years actually get a huge performance boost because these games are really pushing the limit on the current hardware.
@@Spencerwalker21 Fair point but regardless, it's a tiny screen that doesn't really need to be upscaled to begin with. I was actually curious and played on my laptop in windowed mode and made the window about 7 inches big, set the resolution to 720p and it was perfect at that size. Rather have lower resolution with great battery life for a device that is centered around playing on the go.
Despite them announcing that an actual 2.0 is in the works but 2-3 years off still, I think ill be picking this mid gen refresh. Double the storage for both mid and high tier for roughly the same prices is fantastic to hear
The beauty of the steam deck is that a new generation of console doesn’t mean that the old turns obsolete. New titles will still run on it, just not as good. If you want to play the latest 2D indie titles on your “old” console you can! And you can for a long long time. That’s a big difference compared to traditional consoles where development stops usually within the year for most major titles and after a few years the digital store shuts down. Because the steam Deck is so open, you can use it so long as you want. Even with latest software if you’re willing to service it yourself.
@@ryanlunzen9794 That's what I'm thinking too, I'm not really in a position to buy one right now if the next version is only 2-3 years away by the time I am it would probably be better to wait. I might get a bigger ssd in the meantime. I wonder if the screens compatible if so maybe picking up a replacement might be worth it.
I'm tempted to upgrade mine, but probably will wait for a model with higher specs or something. Super excited though with this hitting the market. Means more updates to the Steam Deck in general if more people buy it.
Released at an ideal time after the Legion Go, which gives competition to the ROG Ally (the Extreme Z1 SKU), and now we can see all the best these can offer before Christmas. If I hadn't bought a gaming laptop already, now I'm waiting for this one to come out before choosing one or the other.
it is nice that Valve made a re-freshed model, but, to be fair, I don't think that the difference will be big enough to buy "new" Steam Deck if some one already has one. I mean It may sound silly, but I play most of my games off... SD card on my steam deck. And it is actually hard to notice difference in loading times & performance vs internal storage. Valve did some black magick here. I am more likely to buy some insane 1TB ultra fast SD card tbh lol. But if You don't have a Steam Deck and you want one badly - then of course the new version seems to be again a killer deal.
Can't wait to see a resolution + RDNA3/4 upgrade with the Steam Deck 2 as an original deck owner. Going to skip the OLED since the APU is still RDNA2. Also no hall effect joysticks are a deal breaker for me personally. Still the best option for new Deck owners however!
Same. They took so long to come here and still aren't actually properly available only through grey marker importers. So feels like I should just wait for Deck 2. Bummer. Just checked as well, the oled model isn't available to order either.
The only reason I'd like resolution to increase is for readability reasons - the resolution for the game itself I'd still probably keep low. I mean, my GPD WinMax 2 has 1440p screen but I run games at 50% resolution for performance. Also some titles have issue on native 720p, the interface is not adjusted.
Well you would upgrade a monitor or TV for reasons not having to do with the performance of the device its connected to. I'd say getting this new deck would be worth it for the better display, battery life, and repairability.
@@NotFitz With like the same price tag, more battery efficiency, OLED and the new apu this will be nuts. Also fsr should be way better when SD2 releases. They fixed the major issue of the SD with the OLED and the next one is the performance and battery.
As a long time owner of a 256GB Deck, this sounds like a nice update, but the thing that makes me really want it is the Bluetooth 5.3 update. LE Audio can achieve lower latency without any vendor specific codecs.
Beautiful. I don't see a need to upgrade my steam deck to this OLED version, but I love that this means Valve is moving forward with the Deck as a platform. Now that we have 2, we need to see if we'll ever get the magical number "3"...
Valve underselling themselves and then beating their own expectations in every benchmark is such a breath of fresh air. So many companies lie and make a 10% improvement seem like a 30% improvement, which soils what would be a reasonable generational improvement.
Huge respect to Valve for giving justifications for their decisions when questioned. They absolutely could have given some manufactured corporate nothing answer, and instead, we got meaningful and helpful explanations. That is an immense breath of fresh air.
It would’ve been so awesome and valve allowed to do like a trade-in program where you can trade in your steam deck for the OLED version with a heavy discount that would be kind of neat
I actually prefer it still be at 800p res so that it keeps the frames the same. The one thing I've always wished the steam deck could've had is a 800p OLED screen with a little faster refresh rate for games that aren't as hard to run and the menus.
While the new upgrades seem nice, they won’t suddenly make your deck inferior, considering the changes were mostly to download speed and ram, and in game performance wasn’t much different. The older versions probably can still last a long time considering the support from Valve
I think the main difference for this Steam Deck's refresh release is that there were no major leaks or rumors about it. Minor ones but nothing really concrete on when and the major changes. It is also a new console so we don't have mich idea on Valve's behavior in refreshes and releases. So obviously people sre caught off guard and those who just recently bought had the worst luck 😄
Looks cool. Glad Valve is upgrading the Deck so soon. Not only will it make the hardware prices more competitive, it should also make developers start optimizing their games again. With the original model being so cheap I could see people picking one up just to try it and getting hooked.
@@MrWizardGG It's not meant to be a 100% gaming experience, that's for when someone is at home on their PC. "800p, 30 fps, 1.5 hour battery life" is perfectly cromulent for portable gaming with PC games; besides, 800p looks just fine on handheld devices.
@@MrWizardGG How petty do you have to be to reply on every comment? Do perhaps work for GDP or something? That's the only explanation I can think of why someone would dedicate so much of their time like... that.
Love the highlighting on the graphics that indicate what you are talking about. A common problem in previous videos (as someone who doesnt follow the industry closely) were the graphs tossed up quickly as you ramble off similar sounding model numbers and performance claims and I literally couldn't even identify the correct product on the graph before it moved on let alone figure out the differences compared to other models.
Wow nice heads-up Valve! I was just shopping for a steamdeck so I'm glad I didn't pull the trigger as now I can either get a OLED or a cheaper older unit 😅
Nah get a real upgradable PC steam deck sucks in comparison and feels 3 gen behind. 800p 30 fps vs 4k 120 fps Or 1440p 120 fps. Super super far behind.
Buy the new Oled be crazy to get the older model now, resale value be so much higher too. Ebay is flooded with the older models, probably giving them away free soon 😂
I've been on the fence for a while, was literally just thinking about it again yesterday. I think this is going to make me do it. Here's hoping they can keep them in stock!
With the price drop on the LCD models, the Certified Refurbished ones also got a price drop. I picked up a 512GB Steam Deck for $359 and it still comes with the same 1 year warranty and rigorous testing
That's good for first time buyers, especially with the new 1TB upgrade. Though, the reveal was very sudden. Makes me wonder if they will do the same with the next Steam Deck..
New customers should just get a good upgradable PC. You can always stream from a PC too, so much better than having to pack the PC into a tablet form factor, with much better performance.
@@MrWizardGGStreaming isn't feasible unless you have pretty fast wifi and you completely lose the ability to play it on the go. The Steam Deck is an absolute godsend for anyone who takes a lot of road trips, flights, etc.
@@MrWizardGG I think that the guy who buys a Steam Deck it's not the same guy who would Stream from his PC. It's like comparing bikers to drivers. It's another niche that also intersects with PC gamers but not only.
I got the original one on clearance and i dont think ill have regrets. Sure the oled one has improvements but i couldnt afford it but now i get a slightly older version that i can afford and my dreams of playing pc games on the pooper will be reality.
I'm kinda pissed cause I recently bought a 512gb Steam Deck. It's the best thing I bought in years, no doubt about it, I was also glad not to think about anything I missed getting the higher version. Peace of mind, no FOMO. And now... Idk, I feel cheated a bit. This is a nightmare to watch.
I bought mine last year and feel cheated, considering I had to wait over half a year to even get it. Yeah, sure it's been over 2 years since the og came out but most people have had it for less than a year due to shipping queues. I imagine a lot of people feel cheated, a trade in upgrade program would've been nice.
wow that some amazing little tweaks, a part of me is kinda hoping they release kits to upgrade your gen 1 steam decks with these new upgrades, especially the APU. thats my biggest hope since you can take it out, to just upgrade parts just like a computer build. we'll see if they can make it possible in the future, fingers cross
Oooohh im so glad Im just now starting to consider the handheld pc market, this oled version sounds like more of what i wanted out of the original deck
Really hoping for a trade in program. $200 credit would be perfect. Otherwise I'll probably skip this and wait for a true successor. My current steam deck works for me though i really do wish it had more battery without needing an external pack
Ehhh if they've given the base version with OLED I'd probably cough up and then swap my current 2TB SSD in... at 500 it's a hard sell for existing owner IMHO. I may still consider it and give my current one to my buddy. I will maybe consider if JSAUX releases updated backplate for new screw alignment - I really like their custom back triggers.
800 resolution on a sub 10'' screen is fine. The OLED Steam Deck proves that. Further, Valve keeping the same resolution meant all their hard work getting developers to optimize for STeam Deck isn't wasted with the upgrade (side gradE?)
I think the main question I still have is how many of the OLED steam deck's components (such as the joysticks, screen, battery, perhaps even mainboard) can be used in the old LCD model as part of an upgrade, because while I do like my steam deck alot, I don't really use it enough to justify getting a whole new one just for the better screen and battery life.
Edit: Ignore the screen battery drain argument, Valve literally says in the advertising material that the OLED screen uses less battery Agreed, curious the same, maybe an upgrade could be possible one day heh, but well, the screen is larger and stuff, maybe that'd use more battery and hinder the experience. But well, if Valve would give us potential "partial upgrade" options that'd be a huge W
this would be nuts if some third party would announce a OLED+Battery upgrade kit for the already existing decks. twice so if Valve themselves would open up the possibility of doing so by selling the parts themselves
That would ruin business for valve. If people just do upgrades instead of buying the new decks, that'll make this steam deck oled launch useless and a complete waste of money and resources. Just get a new deck.
More likely the display and controller are for tablets rather than monitors meaning everything is designed for portrait. If that is the case l, being a display aimed at the mobile market, it makes sense why it is using MIPI over LVDS. This is common in the handheld space. From memory GPD still use MIPI on the latest Win Mini. It can lead to some fun quirks with resolutions and retro emulation
I love how the price stays the same with the refresh I wish more companies would be like that. Plus their openness with you tinkering with it is like nothing I've ever seen from a consumer device.
Differnce between and privatly owned comapny and publicly owned company. Value is privately owned with Gabe owning 50% outright. Most big companies are publicly traded and more worried what there stock holders think than there customers.
Actually the answer to "Valve not making a new Steam Deck" is pretty simple, this is not a new console, just and updated and upgraded version of the original, just like the Switch and Switch OLED, PS4 to PS4 Slim and Pro or Xbox One to Xbox One X|S
Super cool! I'll probably wait for the full Steam Deck 2 since my Deck is only five months old, but I might be interested in a trade in program if they offered one.
I think Valve is just going to keep improving the unit and releasing updated versions when they think the upgrades are worth the switch. Maybe there wont ever be a "Deck 2" just an ultra polished product year after year. Im all for it. This is definitely a different approach to this market and i like it.
They have been doing incremental revisions for a while, this is actually the 3rd complete new motherboard, the last one has the CPU and RAM positioned in completely different spots, the Heatpipe has a different shape and this new FAN was also already in that version ...probably around for 6 months or so now. Very different to my launch version anyway. They made a revision to the sticks so the capacitive touch needs less voltage (that is why there are Gullikit HAL Sensor Sticks for A and B versions)... just nothing that ever was interesting enough to make a big news hype about it, none of the big RUclipsrs bothered with those stealth revisions either. So yes, they will absolutely keep tinkering and iterating away, even when they don't tell us about it.
0:11 - "Final Fantasy 7 fans KNOW - that Sephiroth & Aerith had a bit of a run-in". Not even 20 seconds in the video & my boy is throwing shade lmaoooo
those upgrades sound so nice, i'm tempted to get a second deck/sell the old one... it's a shame that the transparent one can't be bought in europe though 😕
Interesting stuff. I'm curious how it perfoms in terms of audio. While I really love this device and used it a lot, I always seem to have problems with audio. Not recognizing headphones, not recognizing microphones, wether they are connected via input jack or bluetooth. Glad to hear that they work on so much stuff. Will probably upgrade, if they bring a higher resolution screen and reduce some weight.
The new one is a few percent lighter. Not a huge amount, but every but counts. Also the new display will higher resolution due to the color resolution, even though pixel count us the same.
Haven't watched an ltt video in a hot minute so not sure when things changed but these new comparison graphs are SO much better. Glad this finally improved.
Im super interested, unfortunately being in Australia, their hardware still isn't available direct from the source (or instore). Do you guys know why they haven't launched here for any of their decks? They're losing market share to competitors like Asus, and ayaneo who have vendors selling their products in store. I've seen a few online market places who do sell steam decks here, buts its more of a grey market product.
@@Sneezus420 lol okay sure. hard to assume a thing like that when literally the only thing in the handheld market until recently was the switch, which never failed to sell units. Ayaneo was the first to go retail here, and cost double the price the steamdeck, still managed to sell out pre-release. The ROG Ally had strong pre-release too. Go figure. There's low demand here? sure ok. On the note of cost. You really think the steamdeck is making profit even over there in NA/EU? they're selling it at a loss and make the money through other means (people buying games on steam) Putting an OLED screen on the deck would be costing them more, but unlike Nintendo selling theirs at a adjusted price, Valve is still backing the current business model.
people are CRAZY for handhelds in Malaysia, the Switch scene has ballooned to crazy proportion during the covid times and yet Valve refuses to release them here as well :((. While some local shops do sell it its always at a higher price, though tbf its still better than gray market so theres that. Im not sure how the Ally is doing here exactly but its definitely selling
Also here in the Philippines but local stores here sell it I got 64 GB for 430 dollars mine will be 1 year by January and still loving it.. 30fps is ok for me cause I get more hours to play. Idk why they don't release it world wide Asus release it and soo lenovo Will buy lenovo when it's out here I pass to Asus ROG cause my friend said don't cause he got one and has defect the Analog stick and the sd card and he got aya neo geek instead...
I love my Steam deck, I bought the top one at launch, the only thing that would make me consider a upgrade is if they allowed a low power mode that let you download while plugged in and the screen off. currently, it will suspend all downloads when the screen blanks. so if i don't touch it for a couple weeks, it has to update all of my games at once.
This screen is very interesting if by chance they are using Nintendos source. I am wishing here, but imagine if this is the screen that will be used on the switch 2. OLED HDR on the switch 2 would be a system killer!
Gotta love Valves commitment to the end user. making the unit's internals accessable and all your accessories working on the newest version. incredible job Valve. Also, their version of Linux, gives me hope that one day when Microsoft finally pisses me off enough to leave, I have a worthwhile alternative.
None of their products are that well supported. Overpriced hardware with goofy ecosystems. Supporting Bluetooth accessories is not that groundbreaking...
Not sure if SteamOS would be the best alternative, compared to things like Linux Mint. But the great thing is that Steam and Proton work on any linux distro!
I'm just crossing my fingers that a screen swap will work when the replacement parts become available. That's basically what I've been hoping for from the start. Given it uses the same interface and is the same resolution and the outer size including bezels is the same there's no reason it shouldn't work. Maybe it'll need a shim or something due to being thinner so that it sits flush.
@@nickzazzer Yeah, maybe not completely ruled out but it looks like it's definitly not out of the box. We'll have to wait and see if a adaptor or something can be made. And if that's even worth it at that point, I guess it also depends on how much lcd versions end up selling second hand.
It won't, the internals of the deck got very re-arranged for this one. Even the way the back plate screws on is different. Fan is different too. A third party could make an OLED for the original deck (similar to the DeckHD) but the new screen won't drop into the old.
Very excited that they're continuing to advance the hardware, because I absolutely love my Deck, but I'm satisfied enough with the LCD one that this is too incremental for me to justify the expense. Hopefully they keep going, so eventually I can justify a sufficiently large upgrade ;)
I think the 800p is just fine for the device. I love the direction they are going with more efficient hardware/battery economy with a focus on a console experience, consumer friendly device. Which is something the pc space is desperately needing.
Text is a little jagged on my deck, so it'd be nice to see something like 1440x900 on the 2nd gen. We were all happy with that on 13-inch laptops for a long time.
Man you are wrong at every point. Trying to pack a whole computer into a body of a steam deck is highly inefficient and compromises gaming quite a bit. 800p 30 fps is a shit result and the heat and battery life are still bad. The whole idea is a fail imo when streaming from a regular PC in 4k 60fps or 120 fps is so much better and easily attainable using DLSS, and uses much less battery life.
@@MrWizardGG dude the whole point is to have a handheld gaming console that can natively run games as well as stream them. That's why people have the opinion of the playstation handheld already being a flop because its portable gaming but what... you can't leave the living room? the house? what's the point? The steam deck is portable pc gaming and the tech is only getting better.
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Very cool Linus
@@Agent-666FortniteLatvia 🥶
@@Agent-666FortniteGo beg somewhere else.
Aren't the batteries the same as in cell phones? If so doesn't charging to 100% harm the battery? Isn't the 30/90 rule better for it?
@@dbomber69 Isn't that a thing with all batteries?
LTT had more communication with Valve for this review than Valve typically has with the public in a year.
I'm just glad we even know about that
They definitely know their target audience
Valve is the shy guy here that only talk to his only friend.
So true. Meanwhile, the back button in Steam is still broken after months.
Valve when their community is causing ww3 due to lack of games and the rise of cheating:😴
Valve when Linus tech tips asks about their new oled realizing their greedy asses can make more money: 😄
It really blows my mind that so many other handheld makers put 1080p, 1200p, etc... screens in these handhelds when the resolution increase isn't that noticeable, but severely impacts other arguably more important aspects of the device like performance and battery life.
marketing and stupidity goes hand in hand nowadays
you can just…maybe lower the resolution if needed?
@@survischannel powering so many pixels still costs energy, even if you render at lower resolution.
@@survischannelthen you lost fidelity ~ sharp image
That's because Pixel density is more important than resolution
Impressive how Valve kept this a secret until the press review day.
I think this shows what a great company valve is to work for. The people are genuinely excited about the stuff they work on and don't want to spoil the surprise. (I know that a room full of lawyers and NDAs probably helps too)
It did get leaked...
...about 30 seconds before being officially announced, lmfao
I mean everyone knew they were working on something and that’s it’s coming soon just didn’t know when
It's impressive how Valve managed to release a new version without even bothering to ever sell the old one in Australia.
@@leogrievous They're also a (relatively) small company for what they do. Certainly makes it much easier to control things like leaks.
From Valves point of view, everything about this is fucking genius. They can reuse almost everything they already manufactured (new base model is basically just stock of the old models) and dont break compatibility with most stuff most people care about and make the experience a lot better for everyone. Really nicely done! I‘m honestly super impressed with this, and that‘s not even primarily looking at the actual improvements to the device.
They're clever enough to try and downgrade the SRGB feature for original Deck model to try and make the new OLED model seem more desirable. Sneaky company indeed.
If you watch the tear downs of the units though not really. They changed ton of internals, from colors, to sizes, to just new equipment in general. It’s definitely a whole new machine in there to the extent.
@@ShadowMan64572 they actually made the colors BETTER on the original steamdeck.
All about profit.. I bet these companies have the technology to make a steamdeck at the level of a ps5 or xbox one x. But they wouldnt probably win so mutch profit for going so advanced up.
But thats just my thought.
Nintendo did it first….
But Apple proved the concept was possible before Nintendo
I love Steam's dedication to customers. Everything changed here is EXACTLY what we've been asking for, even down to the metal screw housings. The only thing I don't like is the fact I bought mine a couple of months ago...
I got mine like 3 weeks ago... it's somewhat annoying but maybe then I'll wait for next generation.
@@GuuMonstersell it and buy the new one seems worth
@@GuuMonster i got one yesterday.
Edit. nvm its not going to be sold in my country anyway.
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@@herb4206triple F
A moment of silence for those who just bought a normal steam deck recently.
i share your pain
Yeah. I'm pissed but its still a great device
got it when it first dropped I guess the only upside is if you hang onto OG devices long enough like a game boy SP < hard to find an they can be expensive
this device will end up being worth more in the long run.
Words can’t describe how broken I am
I mean, i got mine at the last sale for 329, its still 220 dollars cheaper than the OLED one. I guess its not that bad if you see it that way
Valve is absolutely killing it in the hardware space
Thank god they are open source and pro right of repair
Now let's only hope rumors are true, namely the launch of a Valve Index Pro next July.
While they do fund and make use of many open source projects, much of their own software is not.
None of their game engines are open source, Steam is not open source, and while CAD files for the Deck are available, none of the Deck's hardware components are open source, and SteamOS 3 as a whole is not fully open source.
@@BlueSatoshiso everything except things that would cost them monumental amounts of money? Sounds pretty fucking good to me
utterly disappointed they launched their ''steam deck 2'' only offering a a screen upgrade, while its cpu and gpu are quickly getting outdated and getting demolished by competition. The steam deck cant even get acceptable FPS in new titles such as Alan wake 2 and Starfield. They couldve upped the GPU to the 780m that almost all competitor handhelds are sporting right now, but no, a better screen that the outdated hardware won't be able to utilize.
@@JimCreeper No one is forcing you to buy it. There are several other options out there!
It's amazing how great companies can be when they focus on satisfying consumers, not shareholders
The big secret is that you can please shareholders by pleasing consumers. It's tragic how few companies have clued into the obvious fact that being pro consumer can make people want to pay you more money than they need to.
@@awesomeferret Kinda. But pleasing customers usually means taking risks and looking long term. But especially with investors that are there just for money, they might not understand all the decision or just don't care, since what they are doing is playing stocks game. They are just going to jump ship if those risks fail or they might even interfere to put some cutthroat CEO in place to cut costs, which will short term bring things up.
Valve isn't publicly traded.
its just... Gabe . our god
That's why god gabe shall guide us to the paradise of gamers! Let's go brothers
I think the big thing to come from this is the price drop of the 256GB LCD model. The $399 model is now actually usable without having to spend extra for a microSD card or another SSD to replace the one it comes with, and it really puts pressure on the competition to either drop prices or to figure out how to justify their higher prices.
not really, you get like 50% more performance on the lenovo go. thats a big detractor for the steam deck
@@KnockOut101incyeah, but the entire experience is significantly worse on any Widows based handheld. With Steamdeck you can press a button to send it to sleep, come hours or days later, press the button and in a couple of seconds continue playing from where you were. I wouldn't trade Steamdeck overall experience even for twice performance and resolution. The most demanding AAA games I run on the desktop anyway, but for anything else Steamdeck is just perfect.
@@KnockOut101inc I get the performance point but the steam deck wins about basically every other aspects
@@zigmar7 you can pause a game too on windows with hibernate mode. I always do that since forever with my laptop
me personally what I miss from steam os is just the launcher and control settings.. other than that I prefer windows bcs I can instal other game launcher effortlessly and run any cool windows program like mod tools and community software
You can install windows on Deck. It’s super easy. I didn’t even have to wipe the internal storage. It runs off a SD card. The only problem is SD cards are slow AF like an old ass laptop HDD. It makes the Steam deck feel slower than it really is. But I was able to play Starfield on it. It was playable at the lowest settings if you don’t mind 20 to 25 FPS.
Using windows is not so bad on Deck it opens up games that are not supported by Steam OS and Game Pass games. That’s how I played Starfield, through Game Pass.
The only thing is the Steam Deck is so slow. Sometimes painfully slow. Battery life of original is 2 hours tops to 60 minutes for high demanding games.
One cool thing you didn't mention is that apparently the screen can now be removed without taking the steam deck apart to the same extent. This should make repairing the device and doing case swaps much easier.
Apparently? 😂…. No.
This would be important considering that even the best modern OLED panels will have burn in over extended use. For a machine that will likely see decades of use to some extent from enthusiasts (people are still actively using Gameboys 40 years later), it's nice to know it won't be a hassle to swap out / replace/ upgrade the screen when the time comes.
@@lovelymusicnow4404 Apparently... Yes
"Yet the biggest improvement to repairability would be that the Steam Deck OLED will no longer require you to remove the backplate if you need to replace the screen display. As iFixit's screen replacement guide points out, users will need to open the back of the original Steam Deck and remove things such as the motherboard and the heatsink just to remove the gadget's display properly."
IGN
Check the guy who left an OLED switch on with the same image for 2 years straight. The burn-in takes way longer than you think@@ThisUploaded
@@ThisUploaded yes and not look at asus oled laptop taskbar autohide pixel shit a whole bunch of stuff you can't disable . I also had plenty of samsung oled smartphone and zero burn in. Oled is not the same that 7 years ago it's miles better
A review less than a minute after the announcement? Yessir.
Edit as comments pointed out: embargo
And from digital foundry as well wooo
Right? It's like as if reviewers had personal copies to review and release the video at the end of the embargo 🤔
You mean I had to wait 60 seconds cancel him
It's called embargo. Look it up
@@thunderarch5951 Usually a product is revealed and then it takes a while for the embargo to end. But Valve had enough confidence in their product to lift the embargos when the product was revealed, which is rarely how embargos go.
13:19 For what it's worth, I like that Valve actually explained their design decisions. Between that, the unlocked bootloader, the improvements to repairability and their countless contributions to free/libre open source software, they show a lot of good faith for their customer base as a whole.
This makes me incredibly happy. Mainly because with valve aiming for HDR on the steamdeck there is a chance for better HDR support to trickle down into other linux distros.
It's not a chance. It's a certain. They have sponsored, helped with achieving several recent Linux desktop improvements already, mainly in relation to KDE plasma.
KDE Plasma 6 is working on getting HDR.
I mean it is already there. In alpha sure, but it is there. Only for AMD GPU`, sure, but it's there. Jokes aside it has been a feature being worked on since a while in KDE and GNOME already.
One thing I think needs mentioning is the significance of the 90 Hertz screen, not because a lot of games will be running at 90, but because a lot will be running at 40 or 45. The Steam Deck community has largely embraced the "golden 40" as a frame and refresh rate that is not that much more intensive to run than 30, but goes halfway to 60 in terms of frametimes, making it the optimal experience for games where hitting a native 60 isn't possible.
The only problem is, you're downlocking the screen to 40 hertz for it, and so if a frame of those 40 is slightly late, you're waiting a whole 25 ms of stutter for the next one, compared to just 16.6 ms if running 30fps @ 60 hz. With a 90 hertz screen running at 80, that 40fps frame coming in slightly late is gonna halve that stutter time to 12.5 ms, which is HUGE in practice. Great choice!
Great observation! 40hz is pretty good when perfectly paced but frame skips are horrible
True, but if the new screen doesn’t support VRR, then how are we going to play games at 60 fps, then?
Adjusting the refresh rate to 60Hz
@@genna87 Isn’t the screen then still going to keep refreshing at 90 Hz?
@@ThePC007 the steam deck has a handy software slider where you can adjust the screen's refresh rate from anywhere between 40 to the max 60hz
The 1TB is actually an insane value, a 1TB SSD was already around $100 anyway so buying the 512gb version to upgrade it doesn’t really make sense anymore
You can buy 2 TB NVMe SSDs for something like $40-$80. $100? Chief, their prices fell off a CLIFF.
@@LoganChristianson Those are full length m.2 2280s. The much smaller 2230s that fit the Steam Deck still cost $150-200 for 2TB.
form factor 2230, please post a link, they are much more expensive@@LoganChristianson
the prices are actually rising because Samsung/micron has slowed the production atm.@@LoganChristianson
@@LoganChristiansonShow me where you can buy a 2tb ssd for 40$. Its litterly imposible. Houre just making stuff up for internet points and to try to sound smart
The fact that they made their product to be serviced and modded by the end user is amazing. Unlike everyone else who uses special screws and absurd amounts of adhesive. Great looking unit
This is a HUGE deal! The crummy screen was my biggest gripe with the Steam Deck, so getting not just an OLED display, but a well done HDR experience is nuts! And the extra battery life and the increase in storage is a nice touch! This is an instant game changer for games like Persona 5 Royal, where the black and red UI elements look absolutely stunning on OLED displays :D
And 90hz, don't forget.
Now you can play your potato graphics 23fps games with higher brightness and better contrast ratio 😂
@@charlierose1708 😐😐😐
Its only in usa and canada
@@paatuAs always, no surprise there. In most of the world, the Steam Deck has to be imported from the US.
This is not quite enough for me to upgrade, but that's only because I already love my steam deck so much. I'm always glad to see that valve is really putting their all into this new platform.
I have the 512gb version already but damn I’d be lying if I said I didn’t want the 1tb version since it’s the same price
I'm in the same boat as you but add not having disposable income
I feel so bad, I want that OLED and better battery but putting like 400€ on top of my old Steam Deck would be too much to upgrade.
At least I expect fsr 3.0 to improve the Steam Deck in performance.
I hope they enable replacing the old steam deck screen with an oled. I don't want to get rid of my old deck.
@@imanoldurango8213 ited be perfect if we could just return and add money and have them resale....oh wait brb lol.......nvm yea still not worth it lol but gives me great hope for the next SD2
I think this is what will convince me to FINALLY order a Steam Deck through any means necessary and ship it down under. I was already spoiled with OLED on my phone and now on my Switch, and having a handheld PC with an OLED display just means that I will soon be adding it to my collection.
Probably same, waited because the normal one had shitty battery life, and screen was meh.. people scream for more performance but forget battery is like the most important thing on a portable device. Unless you only use it at home but buy a laptop/console at that point if you wanna game in the bed/couch imo
Can you get it in Australia? I checked and they weren’t shipping it…
@@juraj_bthsts why hes saying he will get it and THEN hace it shipped down under....lots of reshippers online. i use one for some stuff that our state says are legal to buy and possess but not ship in the mail even though theyre legal in 49 othet states
@@juraj_bI assume that's where the "through any means necessary" comes in. Same story here in NZ (I imagine we'll get it when you do), but if you have contacts in parts of the world where it's available then anything's possible.
You can buy the steam deck from Kogan
I am not going to complain about minor upgrades that make life better, allow older accessories to still be used and it does not cost (much) more than the original. And what they are doing for gaming on Linux is impressive as hell.
Indeed, having to escape the micro soft grip (heh) is nice.
@@helloukw cope
@@MrWizardGGGod someone salty 😅
@@Awesomesauce1313 yes you are
Seems to me that valve is doing everything they can to not "over promise" on anything steam deck related. And honestly that is refreshing. Also I am going to buy a new one. Mine has already been a hit with the wife
Well this isn't the deck 2.0 so yeah
I had to read that twice, I thought your wife's head broke the steam Deck or something like that 😂
The fact that they didn't do any real price increases for this thing is actually AMAZING! Genuinely thinking about getting a Steam Deck at some point in the future now because of this as that is insane. Not to mention PROPER 1k nit HDR!
they don't need to charge. People buy Steam games if they buy the Steam Deck anyway
@@MrQuay03 can confirm, practiclly stopped buying games on any other platform (including the switch for that matter) when I got a steam deck. They of course might still work but it's just a so much bigger hassle now than just running the steam version (not to mention I've bought like 4 times the amount of games this year, the year I got my steam deck, than the last few years)
@@MrQuay03yeah I’m definitely gonna grab it
I was got one and instantly regretted it once I saw the Legion go was coming out 😢
This is what mid refresh device should look like. This is awesome.
I'm kinda curious how they could even do a late refresh, I mean it has the latest and greatest tech to date now. I guess they could include a 2tb or even 4tb NVMe if that comes out by then.
@@Mantis_TobogganProbably better power efficiency for the APU and maybe a 1080p screen as well
One things for sure, when they eventually drop a SD2 it’s going to be mind blowing
The jump from 60 to 90 Hz on the display is something that should not be overlooked.
Yet, the low 800p should not be overlooked as well. So many compromises with this device.
@@MrWizardGG 1080p requires more power and battery. It's a net LOSS with the current hardware available and wouldnt meet the price point. Have you ever actually played on the deck? it looks sharp as hell at 800p honestly. and it runs games better for longer than the competitors in many cases at lower power. BTW every handheld has compromises
@@MrWizardGGThere’s spec sheet number and there’s experience you get when you actually use it.
Something close example would be sony, apple devices. They’re always simple and low on spec sheet value but the value increases exponentially when you actually use it.
Similarly the screen is low res because it’s native resolution the APU run games on. You won’t get blurry look on 1080p or 1440p unless they make custom 1600p screen which would require re engineering and make device more expensive.
It would result in lower battery life, more heating and poor performance. What they did is make a balance of these things to deliver good device.
@@MrWizardGG 800p is more than usable at this size. stop crying, if you dont like the product, don't buy it. Oled + HDR 1000 nits peak clears your delusion
@@MrWizardGG Battery life and performance or resolution? choose one.
I love the fact they are bringing back the translucent shells for the exclusive one! I miss old controllers and Gameboys having those translucent cases of different colors
Shame it's only available in the US and Canada though :'(
Not in UK 🥺
Valve: Offers limited special edition and translates the site for that into a gajillion of languages
Also Valve: US and Canada only.
See limted edition.
Falls in love with it.
Checks steam to see when it can be bought.
Sees the product with big disclaimer.
Very disappointed with this. Valve supports very few countries officially with their hardware and they still can't offer the limited edition outside US and Canada?!
I bought a translucent shell for mine. It's nice. I had to go with the old school purple lol
Easily one of the best stealth launches I've seen in 30 years of computing.
Yep, I just feel bad for everyone buying this who can afford a normal gaming PC and android tablet which is sooo much better.
@@MrWizardGG You clearly missed the point of this product. Most people getting the deck already have a stronger gaming-capable PC and want to be able to play games from their Steam library (which you can't do on android natively) while on-the-go.
@@MrWizardGG Steam Deck is made for a very specific audience don't hate em cuz they aren't one of you.
@@MrWizardGG Damn, it must be one heck of a tablet if it can run Cyberpunk 2077 and Doom Eternal as smooth as the Steam Deck.
@speedytruck the steam deck runs those games like shit. 800p 20 fps is not impressive at all. Wtf ?
Trackpads have been upgraded significantly too, and you can tell they are slightly more raised off the chassis than the original ones.
Based on Bill from The Nerd Nest's first impressions stream, as well as Gardiner Bryant, they do truly seem to be a significant improvement, especially when combined with the new haptics.
I appreciate the new charts very much. The highlighting is very helpful. I hope you iterate more on it as I think there are plenty of improvements to be had.
I'm totally jealous of the people who don't have a Steam Deck yet and are picking one of these up! The Steam Deck was already amazing and these upgrades really push it to the next level. Definitely not enough for me to consider upgrading though lol
Yes! I still don't have one. I was willing to accept the 60hz and LCD panel but I really wanted 1TB of storage because for me 512GB is extremely limited. This far surpassed my expectations for sure 😁
Yeah especially those of us who pre-ordered the first OG model at a $700 price point if I recall correctly.
Thx the universe I wait for Black Friday because I want the timing to be near my birthday in December 🎉🎉❤❤❤
Ya, got one semi early on and this one is a great improvement! Glad to see that there is more to come lol.
The deck was already well worth it, now it’s only even more so.
I'm jealous of people who can order Steam Decks at all... I live in Norway, we have never had access to the device... I'm quite pissed off to be honest that I cant order one :S
The improvements in design with this are looking pretty great! It's clear that Valve has people that are passionate about the steam deck working on it. Even as someone that mainly plays on Xbox, seeing this kind of work going into a relatively niche product gives me a reason to look forward to seeing what Valve does with consoles moving forward.
I wouldn't call the Steam Deck niche. More of my friends own a Steam Deck than any other console. But we're PC gamers so that isn't surprising I guess.
@setaindustries That's kind of why I would call it niche. It mostly apeals to a subset of PC gamers, which, while large, is still just a subset of gaming as a whole. A large percentage of people have heard of an Xbox, Playstation, or Switch, but outside of the enthusiast gaming community I don't think it is super well known. That could definitely change with the next generation of steam deck if Valve continues to take this product seriously.
@@setaindustries most people who see me other than my pc friends think i have a switch at first until i tell them, we pc gamers may know what a steamdeck is but trust me it's niche.
you might even say Valve has people that are passionate about gaming, that is, passionate gamers
@@devbot99That's why we need to spread the word. The Steam Deck is honestly an incredible product and is a perfect first step for people to experience the limitless possibilities of PC gaming without breaking the bank.
This weight, battery and screen improvement is totally what I wanted on my current steam Deck. Is there an easy to way trade in for discount? 90hz screen will be so nice. Hopefully the next one in a couple years actually get a huge performance boost because these games are really pushing the limit on the current hardware.
I hope they offer it as a replacement part; I don't want to have to trade mine in
sad 😭😭
@@Smitty_Werbenjagermanjenson It's impossible sadly. The internals are updated and the screen size is slightly larger
Nope they want you to just buy another one 😂
Probably going to have to sell old one at a loss and get the new model
Imagine thinking you need 1080p + on a 7.4inch display lol.
So many reasons why the resolution that was chosen makes sense in this package.
The only argument I've heard that is compelling for a 1080p is that it's better for fsr and other upscalers then 720p.
@@Spencerwalker21 Fair point but regardless, it's a tiny screen that doesn't really need to be upscaled to begin with.
I was actually curious and played on my laptop in windowed mode and made the window about 7 inches big, set the resolution to 720p and it was perfect at that size. Rather have lower resolution with great battery life for a device that is centered around playing on the go.
When I owned a Wii, I thought it was 720p but it turned out to be 480p all along. We've come a long way.
I remember when Apple released the iPhone XR and it wasn't 1080p, people got upset.
Despite them announcing that an actual 2.0 is in the works but 2-3 years off still, I think ill be picking this mid gen refresh. Double the storage for both mid and high tier for roughly the same prices is fantastic to hear
The beauty of the steam deck is that a new generation of console doesn’t mean that the old turns obsolete. New titles will still run on it, just not as good. If you want to play the latest 2D indie titles on your “old” console you can! And you can for a long long time. That’s a big difference compared to traditional consoles where development stops usually within the year for most major titles and after a few years the digital store shuts down. Because the steam Deck is so open, you can use it so long as you want. Even with latest software if you’re willing to service it yourself.
Did they really say it's only 2-3 years? That would be awesome so I don't need to upgrade now.
@@ryanlunzen9794 Yeah they talked about it today
@@ryanlunzen9794 That's what I'm thinking too, I'm not really in a position to buy one right now if the next version is only 2-3 years away by the time I am it would probably be better to wait. I might get a bigger ssd in the meantime. I wonder if the screens compatible if so maybe picking up a replacement might be worth it.
@@ryanlunzen9794its not awesomw, in 2-3 years they will barely be able to run the newest games....lucmily we will have the switch 2
I'm tempted to upgrade mine, but probably will wait for a model with higher specs or something. Super excited though with this hitting the market. Means more updates to the Steam Deck in general if more people buy it.
I was not expecting a new Steamdeck model announcement that is so cool! I am almost jealous. Good for valve for making more!
Released at an ideal time after the Legion Go, which gives competition to the ROG Ally (the Extreme Z1 SKU), and now we can see all the best these can offer before Christmas. If I hadn't bought a gaming laptop already, now I'm waiting for this one to come out before choosing one or the other.
it is nice that Valve made a re-freshed model, but, to be fair, I don't think that the difference will be big enough to buy "new" Steam Deck if some one already has one. I mean It may sound silly, but I play most of my games off... SD card on my steam deck. And it is actually hard to notice difference in loading times & performance vs internal storage. Valve did some black magick here. I am more likely to buy some insane 1TB ultra fast SD card tbh lol. But if You don't have a Steam Deck and you want one badly - then of course the new version seems to be again a killer deal.
you dont think so? i will crash my wallet so fast that they wont see it
Can't wait to see a resolution + RDNA3/4 upgrade with the Steam Deck 2 as an original deck owner. Going to skip the OLED since the APU is still RDNA2. Also no hall effect joysticks are a deal breaker for me personally. Still the best option for new Deck owners however!
Yeah, I don't have a deck yet because they never launched it in my country. So now I'll wait to see if the 64/256 GB variant comes with an OLED.
Same. They took so long to come here and still aren't actually properly available only through grey marker importers. So feels like I should just wait for Deck 2.
Bummer.
Just checked as well, the oled model isn't available to order either.
The only reason I'd like resolution to increase is for readability reasons - the resolution for the game itself I'd still probably keep low. I mean, my GPD WinMax 2 has 1440p screen but I run games at 50% resolution for performance. Also some titles have issue on native 720p, the interface is not adjusted.
Well you would upgrade a monitor or TV for reasons not having to do with the performance of the device its connected to. I'd say getting this new deck would be worth it for the better display, battery life, and repairability.
Really makes me wish I waited to get one... but at the same time, I'm super excited for what a Steam Deck 2 could entail
Fr. The 1tb model is the same price rn as the 512gb which is the one I have. Definitely wish I would’ve waited :(
Same got mine in September 2022. Feels like the version the original Deck should have been.
wait until the steam deck 2 its going to have the new amd apu which is 3x better than the original steam deck and youll be able to run most games
@@NotFitz With like the same price tag, more battery efficiency, OLED and the new apu this will be nuts.
Also fsr should be way better when SD2 releases.
They fixed the major issue of the SD with the OLED and the next one is the performance and battery.
The 90 fps is what really gets me. You guys have to see a game displayed side by side vs og deck… the difference in display size is very noticeable
I hope they will have an upgrade program.
Would love to upgrade to the OLED version but not buy a second one.
Unlikely with the whole APU/ram/board design change
There are too many responsibilities to upgrade part, maybe we can DIY it.
As a long time owner of a 256GB Deck, this sounds like a nice update, but the thing that makes me really want it is the Bluetooth 5.3 update. LE Audio can achieve lower latency without any vendor specific codecs.
That is cool! Are there any headphones out that use it?
Not to mention the new dedicated Bluetooth antenna and new support for wake-from-sleep over Bluetooth.
@@oznerol256 The Galaxy Buds2 Pro have it.
Beautiful. I don't see a need to upgrade my steam deck to this OLED version, but I love that this means Valve is moving forward with the Deck as a platform. Now that we have 2, we need to see if we'll ever get the magical number "3"...
It would be Steam Deck 2, Steam deck 2.5, Steam deck Source, Steam Deck Alyx.
Half life 3 confirmed
Steam deck 2: episode 1
Valve underselling themselves and then beating their own expectations in every benchmark is such a breath of fresh air. So many companies lie and make a 10% improvement seem like a 30% improvement, which soils what would be a reasonable generational improvement.
Huge respect to Valve for giving justifications for their decisions when questioned. They absolutely could have given some manufactured corporate nothing answer, and instead, we got meaningful and helpful explanations. That is an immense breath of fresh air.
Thanks Gaben for that
It would’ve been so awesome and valve allowed to do like a trade-in program where you can trade in your steam deck for the OLED version with a heavy discount that would be kind of neat
I sure hope so… because I got mine literally 3 months ago 😭
It would be so great if people just randomly gave me money
@@astronemirI will donate you 1 cent
I'm too attached to my "Clone Of The Kingdom" Deck now to even think about trading it x) Thanks Dbrand haha
They could refurbish the old ones and sell them for much cheaper while making the new ones more attractive for people who already have the old one
Absolutely love the labs graphs and the attention directing graphics are amazing. Truly a noticeable step up.
but they didnt play crab rave
I actually prefer it still be at 800p res so that it keeps the frames the same. The one thing I've always wished the steam deck could've had is a 800p OLED screen with a little faster refresh rate for games that aren't as hard to run and the menus.
I have a 1440p oled screen it legit looks like 4k
So dumb. The screen could be higher resolution and you could still choose to run it at 800p and get benefits.
@@MrWizardGGbut 800p native looks better
Just so you're aware, the new OLED screen is 90hz.
ik thats why i like it@@SolidSt8Dj
While the new upgrades seem nice, they won’t suddenly make your deck inferior, considering the changes were mostly to download speed and ram, and in game performance wasn’t much different. The older versions probably can still last a long time considering the support from Valve
but my screen is uggo compared to this one 😩
It does make it inferior. OLED and color accuracy makes a huge difference in display quality
The better screen is the biggest difference.
That and the battery is noticeable better and more useful.
@@ennayanne OLED has gotten quite good and far more reliable.
HDR@@MrQuay03
I think the main difference for this Steam Deck's refresh release is that there were no major leaks or rumors about it. Minor ones but nothing really concrete on when and the major changes. It is also a new console so we don't have mich idea on Valve's behavior in refreshes and releases. So obviously people sre caught off guard and those who just recently bought had the worst luck 😄
Looks cool. Glad Valve is upgrading the Deck so soon. Not only will it make the hardware prices more competitive, it should also make developers start optimizing their games again. With the original model being so cheap I could see people picking one up just to try it and getting hooked.
Lol. Steam Deck is always going to be 800p, 30 fps, 1.5 hour battery life. It's never going to be better than that.
@@MrWizardGGgo cry about it
@@MrWizardGG It's not meant to be a 100% gaming experience, that's for when someone is at home on their PC. "800p, 30 fps, 1.5 hour battery life" is perfectly cromulent for portable gaming with PC games; besides, 800p looks just fine on handheld devices.
@@MrWizardGG How petty do you have to be to reply on every comment? Do perhaps work for GDP or something? That's the only explanation I can think of why someone would dedicate so much of their time like... that.
@@speedytruck I'm helping people not waste $500 and it didn't take much time
3:15 Valve was afraid that the Steam Deck is gonna try to get some more cupcakes.
That limited edition looks so slick with transparent background shell and carvings
Dang, new steam deck model already? Damn, i bought mine only 2 months ago
Got mine a few weeks ago!! Gutted
I BOUGHT MINE A WEEK AGO
I got mine July 7th lol
Damn we all were fooled 😅 I guess my brother is getting my old steam deck for Christmas man I am shocked like everyone else
I'm kind of miffed to.. I would have waited... I like the one I have. But this is kind of a slap in the face..
Love the highlighting on the graphics that indicate what you are talking about. A common problem in previous videos (as someone who doesnt follow the industry closely) were the graphs tossed up quickly as you ramble off similar sounding model numbers and performance claims and I literally couldn't even identify the correct product on the graph before it moved on let alone figure out the differences compared to other models.
0:54 that aged REALLY well
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@@ivandarmawan9372 ??
Wow nice heads-up Valve! I was just shopping for a steamdeck so I'm glad I didn't pull the trigger as now I can either get a OLED or a cheaper older unit 😅
Do it bro
Nah get a real upgradable PC steam deck sucks in comparison and feels 3 gen behind. 800p 30 fps vs 4k 120 fps Or 1440p 120 fps. Super super far behind.
Buy the new Oled be crazy to get the older model now, resale value be so much higher too.
Ebay is flooded with the older models, probably giving them away free soon 😂
I've been on the fence for a while, was literally just thinking about it again yesterday. I think this is going to make me do it. Here's hoping they can keep them in stock!
_Keep_ it in stock? That would require it to even be available. Which it's not in Australia. How hard is it to just stick it in the mail?
With the price drop on the LCD models, the Certified Refurbished ones also got a price drop. I picked up a 512GB Steam Deck for $359 and it still comes with the same 1 year warranty and rigorous testing
That's good for first time buyers, especially with the new 1TB upgrade. Though, the reveal was very sudden. Makes me wonder if they will do the same with the next Steam Deck..
Prospective customers: This sounds like a good deal.
Valve: This product is not available in your country.
New customers should just get a good upgradable PC. You can always stream from a PC too, so much better than having to pack the PC into a tablet form factor, with much better performance.
@@MrWizardGGStreaming isn't feasible unless you have pretty fast wifi and you completely lose the ability to play it on the go.
The Steam Deck is an absolute godsend for anyone who takes a lot of road trips, flights, etc.
@@MrWizardGG I think that the guy who buys a Steam Deck it's not the same guy who would Stream from his PC. It's like comparing bikers to drivers. It's another niche that also intersects with PC gamers but not only.
@leozeraA1000 thats not true. Steam Deck users would love this option if they knew about it, because its better in every way than the steam deck.
I got the original one on clearance and i dont think ill have regrets. Sure the oled one has improvements but i couldnt afford it but now i get a slightly older version that i can afford and my dreams of playing pc games on the pooper will be reality.
I'm kinda pissed cause I recently bought a 512gb Steam Deck. It's the best thing I bought in years, no doubt about it, I was also glad not to think about anything I missed getting the higher version. Peace of mind, no FOMO. And now... Idk, I feel cheated a bit.
This is a nightmare to watch.
Mine is currently on the way in post. Bought it 4 days ago.
@@6reen6uy Return it, get the better one if you want.
I bought mine last year and feel cheated, considering I had to wait over half a year to even get it. Yeah, sure it's been over 2 years since the og came out but most people have had it for less than a year due to shipping queues. I imagine a lot of people feel cheated, a trade in upgrade program would've been nice.
wow that some amazing little tweaks, a part of me is kinda hoping they release kits to upgrade your gen 1 steam decks with these new upgrades, especially the APU. thats my biggest hope since you can take it out, to just upgrade parts just like a computer build. we'll see if they can make it possible in the future, fingers cross
Oooohh im so glad Im just now starting to consider the handheld pc market, this oled version sounds like more of what i wanted out of the original deck
Just got an OLED for Christmas today, it’s so damn nice
Mine just came before I got off work. FEELS AMAZING!
*Inhales Deck steam from vents*
I've been contemplating a steam deck for a while now. This might be just enough to push me over the edge.
Do it!
Really hoping for a trade in program. $200 credit would be perfect. Otherwise I'll probably skip this and wait for a true successor. My current steam deck works for me though i really do wish it had more battery without needing an external pack
dont really see it happening, if they are selling 256gb for 330$ right? not sure if there is value in reusing year or older decks for refurbs.
Ehhh if they've given the base version with OLED I'd probably cough up and then swap my current 2TB SSD in... at 500 it's a hard sell for existing owner IMHO. I may still consider it and give my current one to my buddy. I will maybe consider if JSAUX releases updated backplate for new screw alignment - I really like their custom back triggers.
Since they are in the same shell. I wonder if we can part it with iFixit
@@MindBlowerWTF yeah I'm hopefully optimistic. Getting let down is my kink
what a product, they have listened to every issue people talk about on reddit sub, they truly believe in customer feedback cycle
Thats make it really unique
800 resolution on a sub 10'' screen is fine. The OLED Steam Deck proves that. Further, Valve keeping the same resolution meant all their hard work getting developers to optimize for STeam Deck isn't wasted with the upgrade (side gradE?)
I think the main question I still have is how many of the OLED steam deck's components (such as the joysticks, screen, battery, perhaps even mainboard) can be used in the old LCD model as part of an upgrade, because while I do like my steam deck alot, I don't really use it enough to justify getting a whole new one just for the better screen and battery life.
Edit: Ignore the screen battery drain argument, Valve literally says in the advertising material that the OLED screen uses less battery
Agreed, curious the same, maybe an upgrade could be possible one day heh, but well, the screen is larger and stuff, maybe that'd use more battery and hinder the experience.
But well, if Valve would give us potential "partial upgrade" options that'd be a huge W
@@viktor7628the screen is the exact same size, it just appears larger because the bezels are smaller
yeah I'd like to just buy the screen as an upgrade
@@ennayannecant. Oled is 7.4 inches. LCD 7.0 inches.
From a twitter post from one of the Valve Steam Deck hardware engineers, the screen can't be used with the old motherboard.
this would be nuts if some third party would announce a OLED+Battery upgrade kit for the already existing decks. twice so if Valve themselves would open up the possibility of doing so by selling the parts themselves
It has new internals too, just bite the bullet on this one
Hopefully Ifixit
Bezels are different tho?
@@etherealhawktotal size of the display is the same, so the new display should fit in the old deck
That would ruin business for valve. If people just do upgrades instead of buying the new decks, that'll make this steam deck oled launch useless and a complete waste of money and resources. Just get a new deck.
More likely the display and controller are for tablets rather than monitors meaning everything is designed for portrait. If that is the case l, being a display aimed at the mobile market, it makes sense why it is using MIPI over LVDS.
This is common in the handheld space. From memory GPD still use MIPI on the latest Win Mini. It can lead to some fun quirks with resolutions and retro emulation
I bought mine back in April rip luckily it still works amazing and I love it. I'll just wait another year or two before upgrading.
the new charts are killer! one thing - it would be really useful to know how many times tests were run (maybe as a tiny note in the bottom right)
Would love a good trade in program for the OG deck.
I love how the price stays the same with the refresh I wish more companies would be like that. Plus their openness with you tinkering with it is like nothing I've ever seen from a consumer device.
Differnce between and privatly owned comapny and publicly owned company. Value is privately owned with Gabe owning 50% outright. Most big companies are publicly traded and more worried what there stock holders think than there customers.
Actually the answer to "Valve not making a new Steam Deck" is pretty simple, this is not a new console, just and updated and upgraded version of the original, just like the Switch and Switch OLED, PS4 to PS4 Slim and Pro or Xbox One to Xbox One X|S
Super cool! I'll probably wait for the full Steam Deck 2 since my Deck is only five months old, but I might be interested in a trade in program if they offered one.
I think Valve is just going to keep improving the unit and releasing updated versions when they think the upgrades are worth the switch. Maybe there wont ever be a "Deck 2" just an ultra polished product year after year. Im all for it. This is definitely a different approach to this market and i like it.
They have been doing incremental revisions for a while, this is actually the 3rd complete new motherboard, the last one has the CPU and RAM positioned in completely different spots, the Heatpipe has a different shape and this new FAN was also already in that version ...probably around for 6 months or so now. Very different to my launch version anyway.
They made a revision to the sticks so the capacitive touch needs less voltage (that is why there are Gullikit HAL Sensor Sticks for A and B versions)... just nothing that ever was interesting enough to make a big news hype about it, none of the big RUclipsrs bothered with those stealth revisions either.
So yes, they will absolutely keep tinkering and iterating away, even when they don't tell us about it.
They’ll need a more powerful APU eventually
0:11 - "Final Fantasy 7 fans KNOW - that Sephiroth & Aerith had a bit of a run-in". Not even 20 seconds in the video & my boy is throwing shade lmaoooo
those upgrades sound so nice, i'm tempted to get a second deck/sell the old one... it's a shame that the transparent one can't be bought in europe though 😕
Wow, I can't wait to see the Deck2 in a few years, it'll be incredible.
Interesting stuff. I'm curious how it perfoms in terms of audio. While I really love this device and used it a lot, I always seem to have problems with audio. Not recognizing headphones, not recognizing microphones, wether they are connected via input jack or bluetooth. Glad to hear that they work on so much stuff. Will probably upgrade, if they bring a higher resolution screen and reduce some weight.
The new one is a few percent lighter. Not a huge amount, but every but counts. Also the new display will higher resolution due to the color resolution, even though pixel count us the same.
damn man i just picked up a 512gb model last month, if i known this be coming along i woulda just waited for the oled model with the 1tb..
sorry bro
Yeah Im buying one never had any handheld expect Sony psp years ago.
Steam Deck Oled going to be 1000x better.
Haven't watched an ltt video in a hot minute so not sure when things changed but these new comparison graphs are SO much better. Glad this finally improved.
Would be nice to see another software review on the current state and maybe also some community modding
my deck came 2 days ago i have never felt so much buyer remorse before
That “take that sony” was personal. He’s speaking on my behalf 😭
looking forward to the cooling mods making the new deck go even further
Airjet with the steam deck is the best idea IMO
Oh yeahhh LN2 time
The design improvements are making me reqlly optimistic for the successor of this gen!
Im super interested, unfortunately being in Australia, their hardware still isn't available direct from the source (or instore). Do you guys know why they haven't launched here for any of their decks? They're losing market share to competitors like Asus, and ayaneo who have vendors selling their products in store. I've seen a few online market places who do sell steam decks here, buts its more of a grey market product.
Not even in Singapore also. I expected that t it will be available in SEA soon after Hong Kong, but nope.
steam decks are popular but still a niche product. they probably dont sell in those regions because cost would outweigh demand.
@@Sneezus420 lol okay sure. hard to assume a thing like that when literally the only thing in the handheld market until recently was the switch, which never failed to sell units. Ayaneo was the first to go retail here, and cost double the price the steamdeck, still managed to sell out pre-release. The ROG Ally had strong pre-release too. Go figure. There's low demand here? sure ok. On the note of cost. You really think the steamdeck is making profit even over there in NA/EU? they're selling it at a loss and make the money through other means (people buying games on steam) Putting an OLED screen on the deck would be costing them more, but unlike Nintendo selling theirs at a adjusted price, Valve is still backing the current business model.
people are CRAZY for handhelds in Malaysia, the Switch scene has ballooned to crazy proportion during the covid times and yet Valve refuses to release them here as well :((. While some local shops do sell it its always at a higher price, though tbf its still better than gray market so theres that. Im not sure how the Ally is doing here exactly but its definitely selling
Also here in the Philippines but local stores here sell it I got 64 GB for 430 dollars mine will be 1 year by January and still loving it.. 30fps is ok for me cause I get more hours to play. Idk why they don't release it world wide Asus release it and soo lenovo Will buy lenovo when it's out here I pass to Asus ROG cause my friend said don't cause he got one and has defect the Analog stick and the sd card and he got aya neo geek instead...
3:12 I can give you one reason why they didn't use EDP
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I love my Steam deck, I bought the top one at launch, the only thing that would make me consider a upgrade is if they allowed a low power mode that let you download while plugged in and the screen off. currently, it will suspend all downloads when the screen blanks. so if i don't touch it for a couple weeks, it has to update all of my games at once.
Hopefully they will implement this in the near future
This screen is very interesting if by chance they are using Nintendos source. I am wishing here, but imagine if this is the screen that will be used on the switch 2. OLED HDR on the switch 2 would be a system killer!
It’s a good day when Linus uploads
Gotta love Valves commitment to the end user. making the unit's internals accessable and all your accessories working on the newest version. incredible job Valve. Also, their version of Linux, gives me hope that one day when Microsoft finally pisses me off enough to leave, I have a worthwhile alternative.
None of their products are that well supported. Overpriced hardware with goofy ecosystems. Supporting Bluetooth accessories is not that groundbreaking...
Not sure if SteamOS would be the best alternative, compared to things like Linux Mint. But the great thing is that Steam and Proton work on any linux distro!
@@The8BitPianist yep an android tablet connected to a gaming computer gets better graphics and battery than the steam deck
@@MrWizardGG I was referring to more physical accessories. cases, docks etc, still fit.
@@MrWizardGG just objectively wrong lmfao
I'm just crossing my fingers that a screen swap will work when the replacement parts become available. That's basically what I've been hoping for from the start. Given it uses the same interface and is the same resolution and the outer size including bezels is the same there's no reason it shouldn't work. Maybe it'll need a shim or something due to being thinner so that it sits flush.
Steve of GN already addressed this and no, it's not possible.
Confirmed by Valve Head of Hardware that it will not work given the completely new motherboard and internal redesign.
@@AzumiLPyep
@@nickzazzer Yeah, maybe not completely ruled out but it looks like it's definitly not out of the box. We'll have to wait and see if a adaptor or something can be made. And if that's even worth it at that point, I guess it also depends on how much lcd versions end up selling second hand.
It won't, the internals of the deck got very re-arranged for this one. Even the way the back plate screws on is different. Fan is different too. A third party could make an OLED for the original deck (similar to the DeckHD) but the new screen won't drop into the old.
Very excited that they're continuing to advance the hardware, because I absolutely love my Deck, but I'm satisfied enough with the LCD one that this is too incremental for me to justify the expense. Hopefully they keep going, so eventually I can justify a sufficiently large upgrade ;)
I think the 800p is just fine for the device. I love the direction they are going with more efficient hardware/battery economy with a focus on a console experience, consumer friendly device. Which is something the pc space is desperately needing.
Text is a little jagged on my deck, so it'd be nice to see something like 1440x900 on the 2nd gen. We were all happy with that on 13-inch laptops for a long time.
@@spacetoast7783 I think that would be nice tbh. 900p seems like the sweet spot.
Man you are wrong at every point. Trying to pack a whole computer into a body of a steam deck is highly inefficient and compromises gaming quite a bit. 800p 30 fps is a shit result and the heat and battery life are still bad. The whole idea is a fail imo when streaming from a regular PC in 4k 60fps or 120 fps is so much better and easily attainable using DLSS, and uses much less battery life.
@@MrWizardGG dude the whole point is to have a handheld gaming console that can natively run games as well as stream them. That's why people have the opinion of the playstation handheld already being a flop because its portable gaming but what... you can't leave the living room? the house? what's the point? The steam deck is portable pc gaming and the tech is only getting better.
@@MrWizardGGwow youre missing the point of it.... hating just to hate