Absolutely correct guys!! I feel down the Trump train in 2019. I jumped off in 2023. I have been grateful to have found the fact that we are in a simulation. I'm still really angry. Its been a lonely journey. Thank you both very much for your time!!! COLUMBIA SC USA ❤
Watching this video again. It is true what you say ofc. You cannot be a total ass on the inside while being a gent on the outside. It's gonna slip through the mask one acts as being, if one tries to cover it up, it is revealed through ones actions wherever one is fake (putting on an act) eventually. Ofcourse, if I love myself, I'll be loving towards others. If I hate myself, I'll have a hard time liking others, no matter how hard I'll try. So inner conflict leads to outer conflict and the programming is to turn oneself into conflict with oneself, to turn one against others. EDIT: a thought about it is. these satanists, luciferians who run the world...maybe they embrace their trauma somehow from their childhood (cause I've heard from research, that, they are traumatized) to challenge it perhaps? to live in a sense of sacrificing their cares, instead of overcoming? cremation of care?
The thing I love about Mark is his willingness to change his mind, a virtue sadly lacking in almost all so-called "truth seekers." Spot-on about the keynote speaker's ego, and we all know who they are. They've nailed their colours to the mast and refuse to take them down!
How many people have you seen talking utter nonsense then talking about how they became " awake " and asking other people when did you wake up, as if it is some club they are in " the wide awake club ". Be humble and realise we all know very little in the grand scheme of things, we don't even know how or why we are here.
Quite agree that as humans we should recognise that we know so little, but a club at least will give us some pushback, just to persuade them enough so they stop making plans to send us in re-education camps, as they did during the Plandemic mania.
What a breathe of fresh air this chat is!! 😅 I often feel fickle because i change my mind on things so much but the more you learn the more you realise you dont know!! Thank you, Mark❤
We have to accept different views and come together. I have learned with great difficulty, how not to be triggered by different perspectives to my personal beliefs. I was lucky to be bought up by parents who taught me to question everything. As always, a brilliant podcast with Mark. Mark shattered my music paradigms which was tough at the time. Action is part of the manifestation along with many other things. We can positively affect our energy field and vibration.
The Flat Earth Truth is not a perspective, its not an opinion....it is not debatable by some moron globetard. Some things are FACTS, and this world being flat and motionless is one of those facts.
Very fascinating conversation. I lke the fact that they don't aim for agreeing on everything, but rather listen to each other. There's one point in the talk where Nathan emphasizes the need to do the research by going to libraries, listening to podcasts etc. While I do think that this is important I would argue that it is far more important to llnk yourself back to reality by constantly testing your experience and perception. Because this is all we can know for sure (as long as we're not under the influence). I would disagree with Nathan that Flat Earth is something invented by the bad guys to divide the truth movement. My direct experience does not show me that I am living on a spinning ball, but rather that I am on a stationary plane. That is not to say that I know that the earth is flat, but my experience let's me come to the conclusion. The globe model is something that has been forced on me in school and has to be backed up by "sience". And why would they have lied to us about everything except for the shape of the realm we live in. Also when Nathan mentions that David Icke is "awake" because he had the Kundalini. Well, that is just a belief. No one has ever seen or felt the Kundalini except for the people claiming to have had the experience. According to the old Hindu texts it is some kind of serpent energy. While I do not know if Reptilians control this realtiy it does have a sinister edge to it. Tony Sayers claims that it is definitely evil. Again, I don't have a definite answer and I love the fact that both Nathan and Mark have changed their point of view numerous times over the years. Same here.
Hi there, many thanks for your input. If I might: Yes, what I am advocating for here is a return to grounded reality, to check, challenge and test our own beliefs, opinions and experiences. I am happy to disagree with people as long as we can keep it civil. I certainly cannot prove the Earth is a "globe" because until I'm up there, looking down... I must form an educated opinion based on the information I come across. From my perspective, the Earth is a globe, but as I have said many times, I may be wrong. Fair play to you. As far as me "believing" that David Icke had a Kundalini, I would like to address this a little further. I like David and I consider him to be genuine. It is my opinion that he has told the truth regarding his experiences, but obviously, that is something I personally can't prove. I make a very clear distinction between "opinion" and "belief". As for changing my opinions, I suspect it will happen a lot more in future, and I make no apologies for this. I like your thinking, thanks for your comment.
@@Peter-xi1if Thank you for your sincere reply.That is exactly the kind of exchange that is getting us further on our path through this enigma we call life. I will definitely order your book. Look forward to learning about your take on the many pitfalls in the "truth" community. Being located in Germany I have to get it through a..z.n. As for David Icke, I highly respect him. His work is outstanding and I know of very few people who have ploughed through this whole mess with such dignity. I only wanted to point out the Kundalini aspect, knowing that I don*t know anything for sure. I love your distinction between "opinion" and "belief". I should have clarified that more in my comment. Again, thank you for your response. I highly appreciate your interaction!
@@wollmo05 Hi mate, firstly, you are welcome for the reply... I think I got a little over zealous with one of my comments yesterday evening... a side effect of not sleepig properly perhaps? I think it is important to define certain terms, because often they are misunderstood and then misinterpreted as a consequence. I have a page and a half of defining terms so that the reader and I can be on the same page... no pun intended. In regards to the book, I had to issue a caveat because it's rather... blunt. As I said in the podcast, I am attempting to point out our failings (and I have plenty of those myself, admittedly) so that we may begin to resolve our issues - society wide. If you have any further comments, questions or criticisms, please, get in touch. Thanks for the comment mate. Have a good one.
I agree with David Icke being truly awake, along with Mark! Some others I believe are: Mark from Forever Conscious channel, Wayne from Sovereign Spirits, Frank Jacobs, Alexis from Higher Journeys, Max Igan, Tony Sayers...and there definitely are some others I just can't recall
Nathan is right on so many points. But as usual. Mark is right on all. ‘Flat Earth is sent to divide us’. Oh dear Nathan. Time to learn from your own 📕
i know that the more i learn, the less i know. And no one book no one teacher. And we live in duality. Belief is the enemy of knowing. Natural law the hermetic laws are some of the things I tell others to start with. You have to go into the dark to understand the true light. That's all I got after 25 years and I do it alone. I've lost literally anybody that I loved.
I think you and I would get along just fine! I absolutely agree with you. You do tend to loose a lot of friends when digging into this stuff, thankfully there is an up-side to it all, which is that it brings you closer to the truth and closer to wisdom (no guarantees though). In regards to Hermeticism, yeah, absolutely, but then I would encourage the reader to take it further and look into Kabbalah as well. How about this one: "The more I know, the more I know how little I know". Thanks for the comment.
My problem with the truth community is that it's very often as judgemental as those deemed asleep. Both telling us all how we should behave, what we need to do, how we should live etc. Anybody that treats us like we should be/do/think like them is a turnoff to me; we're all different and here for different purposes. I'm tired of people telling me to go against my authentic self and my own instincts so I don't belong to any community anymore. And I'm okay with that. I'll do me thanks.
This is what I refer to as the "should people" - those constantly telling you what you should and shouldn't be thinking or doing. Is that not people imposing their will and unwanted opinions and advice onto others? I agree with you, the "truth" community certainly does have a problem with ego, arrogance and self-rightious opinion. "A house divided against itself cannot stand". The truth community destroyed itself, because of ignorance and arrogance. If we focussed and unified, putting petty differences aside... imagine what we could achieve in very little time! Shame on us!
I've been listening reading and doing my own research since I was 17 that was a long time ago. Sure I do not have my own podcast sure I don't try and wake others up. I'm just trying to stay alive. Manifestation is a bunch of crap. You are brought into this place against your will and given what you'll get. All these people that go around saying life is great are just brain dead slaves to whatever material things they have sold there soul for. I'm so with this dude on the fact they basically made our community a bunch of fighting babies. I could make a list of the plants in our space since 2016.
Im going with what Max says, "the truth is none of us really know the truth ", it feels like I learn something new about something I never even thought about or haven't considered in a while.I watched my husband die very slow & painfully over the last 4yr . I got him thru the the Chgo medical system refusing to mask or anything , As I spent lots of time getting physically kicked out of hospitals😂 I Make sure that they never stopped calling out the behavior of the staff, Needless to say the super christians that we rented from &subcontracted for over 20 years, are now literally putting me on the street in january cuz my income is cut, Despite the fact that I can pay I'm being subjected to different standards....
I was refused medical assistance because I refused to wear a mask. What a wonderful, caring profession the medical establishment is eh! They care so much, they refuse to treat people because the don't feel safe, even when wearing their f*&king hazmat suits, masks and visors. Shameful.
The success of the nanny state was to make people think that someone powerful cares… Those of us who experienced narcissistic parenting already had a leads up on that one.. those of us, isolated from when we were young, remained authentic. Our gut instinct was to maintain self and be independent. So, thank you mother, for showing me the way 😂
The problem is this: Objective reality is just another word for Consensus reality. And consensus reality is not True reality. This is the problem, the confusion, the delusion that is the stopping the progress of even the most sincere truth seekers. I have experienced a period of my life where the law of attraction was working for me. It really works, but it’s not an intellectual process. It involves a special state of being which can be achieved only when a certain inner passion and joy is invoked that is deeply heartfelt. I lost it when I tried to prove it to other people and is difficult to repeat. A certain percentage is still there and doing ok, but nothing like before. I could focus on getting back in this state and remain there, but not ready now. It is an art, the ultimate art. People are reluctant to take the plunge, as it is a lonely place, your own reality and really works. Most of us don’t go there because most of us would suffer rather than feel lonely, not connecting to the generally negative world of society. This is not a theory or intellectual thought, but 100% of my personal experience. Hope it helps as a contribution to the conversation.
Sorry mate, I think you have misunderstood 'Objective Reality' which has nothing to do with consensus. Consensus reality is subjective, not objective. Problem is rather that people have not been taught the difference, because of society and family etc. The book covers this subject in great detail and makes a very clear distinction between the two. Hope this helps. Cheers.
I never said that. The Singular Ultimate Objective truth can only be known to The Singular Ultimate Creator. As a human the ultimate truth can only be felt as intuition, but can never be fully comprehended. Anyone that thinks that ultimate truth is knowable while living in this earth/matrix must be thinking some really dumb things. Like trying to find consensus with enough people so they can proclaim their Objective truth and die and kill for it. The method these suckers use to confirm Objective truth is by consensus and nothing else. Any so called experiment is influenced by the subject performing it, but the results are declared Objective, quite dumb. So they call it Objective truth, how dumb is that. Subjective truth is not inferior to so called Objective truth, it just appears that way to dumb people.
@@Gooddog-guide That term has been weaponized, be careful. Apparently i am a narc. It boils done to good and bad people. selfish and communal decisions outweighs. Hardly anyone has a good childhood because..... our parents need to learn how to slave instead of how to parent
It's when you are in a room and you realise that you offend certain people by just being there. Open your mouth and oh my. Staying alive. Some people don't want your existence. ??!
I watch Chris (Eric Von Essex). Very clever man, a wealth of knowledge especially when it comes to War. I've brought his dads book. He hasnt got a load of followers but the ones he has, most have been with him since the beginning. Hes definatly worth having a listen to
Great talk lads...... Thank goodness a book out with truth on the "movement" but well done to all those who know what's going on and doing the work.... Too many boys and girls and not enough adults with morales and values.... Following false idols who thing they are the saviour... WAKE UP UP!!!
He also is a S^X offended I do not care about his "data" he lost his voice and rights. Do you even do your own research? Or do you become a fan of things still?
Thank you so much for this. I really resonated with it. Though, I don't think we have to give up belief,I do think the truth movement is not at all what I thought it was. I thought it would be a together tribe and I don't know what I thought, but it's not that. It doesn't feel like a community to me. It doesn't feel like a tight knit group or family or anything of what I thought. It's bickering, fighting, ego and some sort of " show" I don't know. I guess I thought we would all come together and learn about community. But it's not that... and online connection is not great. Anyway... who knows. I guess I'm moving away from it now and I don't think it's good for the soul and for being a good person. I'm very disappointed in it.
Perfect timing Mark, just listened to Mark Bajerski talking to Ole Dammegard as I do my training and was thinking what to listen to now and boom up popped your notification.
Three things: 1). I agree you need to essentially "keep going" in terms of your research. In my case, I thought I had a pretty good handle on things in the 2014/15 time frame. That's when I jumped into the music stuff with Mark, Mike Williams, and the late Dave Mcgowan. What started out as an escape/Lark, ended up being a huge blessing as it tied in so perfectly with my previous research. 2). I sat the Flat Earth out. My logic at the time was this was a card in the infamous Illuminati Card Game. Secondly, and I'm not knocking anyone who studies this area because it is important, regardless of what conclusion I would have come to, it wouldn't have affected me either way. 3). Completely disagree with the lads regarding the Bible. Some amazing things are happening right before our eyes, just like scripture says it will, and so many can't see it. Anyway, peace and blessings from the Twin Cities.
Thanks for the comments. I am curious to hear your thoughts regarding the bible and why you think we are wrong. Happy to discuss further, as long as we keep it civil. The illuminati cards are certainly interesting and worth investigating... how the hell did they do it? Is it evidence of a simulation or a script playing out? Where are the Twin Cities? Cheers mate.
A commumity is a community is a community. Same reason communes fail. I saw a lot of this back when the Occupy movement was happening. People not seeing where they were being led. Where were they led...where are they...
Didn't the Bible say, "We were made in THEIR image". Which also makes a lot of sense that's why they can hide amongst us causing chaos and destruction whilst blaming us
Gret interview thanks. 'Holy Kool Aid' is a good YT channel that critiques Christianity. It made me laugh hearing about 'book burnings' though, as if you actually really look into the book burnings of WW2 and see that the supposed 'bad guys' were actually doing us, and our children, a favour with the books they burned.
Many book burnings have occured throughout history. Whenever tyranny rules, censorship and book burnings begin big time. The Romans did it by scorching several of the ancient libraries in Egypt and Anatolia for example.
Mate I left Wollongong nsw headed to perth and synchronic events gave me connection to awake people I totally understand what you are feeling I would say to myself I am going to meet awake people today and I did it every morning and I have a few people I can enjoy being around I hope it helps Namaste 😊
@WillAH956 Thanks for your message mate, yeah hopefully I can meet people at a similar level of consciousness and try and enjoy this hell at least a little bit. Cheers
@@adamwalkeruk1989 yeah absolutely 💯 I lost virtually every friend because I couldn't connect to trivial crap they were focused on but keep positive you will meet fellow truth seekers the next chapter of your life will be much better
Why is it unfortunate that we have a conscience.. Id rather be me than them. I guess theres many of us that wouldnt understand the psychopaths because we arnt them.
Edited: With regard to comments about people being shills and gatekeepers etc. It is all too often thrown around in the movement without evidence or good reason, other than if someone has a different opinion, it must mean they are a shill. I have literally profiled this mindset in the book. Regarding the question of Objective Morality - yes it can be known and it is clearly defined. Nor is it a difficult concept to grasp. To the people who dismiss me because I consider evolution to be factual and evidence based... this proves my point about the state of consciousness in the truth movement. Just because you disagree with the opinion of others DOESN'T make you right, nor does it make them a shill. I have staked my claims and made my position known, if people think I am wrong... fair enough. Thanks for the feedback either way. "condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance".
@@Peter-xi1if Hello, I don't know whether you are a shill or not, as I have never even heard of you before this interview. I will admit however to have questioned whether Mark might be, based on some of the people he associates himself with and is interviewed by - despite that I still listen to his podcasts with an open mind. One thing I will say though is that your reply appears to be the most triggered comment in the comments section, when you accuse others who question either Mark, yourself or both of being triggered for merely questioning whether you might be gatekeepers. It sounds like there is a lot of projection in your comments, and you blast people for having an ego, when it sounds like yours has been extremely bruised to reply in the manner that you have. When you start insulting people who question things or people then you have instantly lost the argument, and your own ego has come into effect. I actually thought you came across fairly well and knowledgeable in the podcast, but you haven't done yourself any favours in the aggressive nature you have responded. You stated in the podcast that you don't mind constructive criticism?
@@paulrooke The old shill argument gets thrown around a lot in the truther sphere and so I find it quite concerning that people are so eager to accuse others without having any evidence at all to back it up with. You could say it's a personal gripe and yes, perhaps a trigger point given that I wrote a chapter on the subject. I thank you for your honesty and your comments, which are fair game at this point. As far as ego is concerned, I don't doubt for one minute that I have an ego, I think everyone has an ego, the point I was trying to raise here is that it is a very blatent problem within the movement - not that people have an ego... but that their ego's are out of control (movement wide). As for constructive criticism, that is how we learn and dare I say... evolve...? In which case, I thank you for the feedback. After re-reading my post, it did seem somewhat aggressive as you pointed out. I have made some edits to tone it down.
@@Peter-xi1if I agree it does get used a lot, and towards almost everybody nowadays. The problem is that trust is at an all time low. This is no doubt engineered by the parasites also, in order to create division amongst ourselves. It's a fine balance, and although we shouldn't completely trust anybody 100%, there is a fine line sometimes in stepping over that and suspecting everybody of having dishonest intentions. Lenin stated that the best way to control the opposition is to lead it ourselves, and there is certainly a large element of that infiltrating the so called freedom/truther movement. Therefore it is healthy to question everything and everybody, but yes without proof maybe we should keep quiet until the time that we have enough evidence or gut instinct. I respect your response and your honesty 👍
We have to take a lot at face value because this insanity runs through every institution. Science, history, music, film, gov, education, etc etc. If everyone researches every genre, we'll get no where and won't be able to do anything?
@@djmarkdevlinI'm glad I reminded you as the analogy is brilliant. How the fuck are we meant to learn anything when we have no idea what we are meant to be learning. Gaslighting much.
Dr Joe Dispenza work!!; his students are ordinary people and do Biblical Wonders Every Day !!! No gurus No Liders ,No Priest,No Religion Just Open Hearts 💓
@@superkalifragilistik4974 yes. Not cheap. I've been there aii will go this year again. About £2000. Including all day food ect. No hotels.. But you are 7 day in Loving ,Crazy Beautiful experiences .And I have opened my Pineal Gland eye and I wouldn't change 1 minute of my life since then. Wasn't easy but now I walk in bouth worlds Astral and 3D. The Astral world is what all coming from and Im not afraid any more as I just smile.
A propos the distortion of true cosmology - from a dude who knew a thing or two about a thing or two: "One who asks from the standpoint of occultism, what kind of world-conception can be derived from the Copernican tenets, will have to admit that they are incapable of promoting any understanding of the spiritual foundations of the world and the things of the world-for truth to tell there has never been a worse instrument for understanding the spiritual foundations of the world than the ideas of Copernicus-never in the evolution of the human mind! The reason for this is that all these Copernican concepts are inspired by Lucifer. Copernicanism is one of the last attacks, one of the last great attacks made by Lucifer upon the evolution of man. In earlier, pre-Copernican thought, the external world was, indeed, maya: but much traditional wisdom, much truth concerning the world and the things of the world still survived. Since Copernicus, however, man has maya around him not only in his material perceptions but his concepts and ideas in themselves are maya. Today men regard it as self-evident that the sun stands firmly at the centre with the planets revolving around it in elliptics. In no far distant future, however, it will be realised that the view of the world of stars held by Copernicus is much less correct than the earlier, Ptolemaic view. The view of the world held by the school of Copernicus and Kepler is, in many respects, convenient, but as an explanation of the macrocosm it is not the truth." - Rudolf Steiner
Why does the youtube bot now feel the need to turn my subtitles off for each new video? Robot, do not change my settings unless I indicate so. Dont make my decisions. You cannot autocorrect one word correctly and you then reject my comment. Technology fails again.
It’s all fun and games until your best friend doesn’t speak to you unless it’s absolutely necessary because she accuses you of manifesting bad stuff for her inadvertently.
Great interview thanks. 'Holy Kool Aid' is a good YT channel that critiques Christianity. It made me laugh hearing about 'book burnings' though, because if you actually really look into the book burnings of WW2 and see that the supposed 'bad guys' were actually doing us, and our children, a favour with the books they burned.
1. You go into a shop and ask for a coffee. The server refuses. You ask why. She says because you didn't ask in the right way. You ask how you're supposed to ask. She says it's not her job to tell you and you need to figure it out for yourself. 2. You're gasping for a coffee. You go into the shop and ask for one. The server refuses. You ask why. She says, you wanted it too much. 3. You ask for a coffee. The server gives you a tea. You say you wanted a coffee. The server says she knows, but sometimes you get the opposite of what you want. You ask what kind of sense that makes. She says it's not her job to tell you and you have to figure it out for yourself. 4. You ask for a coffee. The server takes your money. You're waiting for fucking ages, but no coffee turns up. You ask when it's coming. The server wags a finger and says you have to be patient and you'll get the coffee when it's good and ready and not a moment before. 5. You ask for a coffee. The server spills it on you. You get mad. The server gets all righteous and says it's not her fault for spilling it, it's YOUR fault for getting angry. She spilt it to teach you a lesson. You ask what the lesson is. She says it's not her job to tell you and you have to figure it out for yourself. 6. Someone next to you orders a coffee and gets exactly what they wanted straight away. You ask how that's fair. She says it's not her job to tell you and you have to figure it out for yourself. 7. A million people all order a coffee. Not one coffee arrives. You all call for the server to explain herself. The server is nowhere to be seen.
I actually think the protests did a lot of good, if for no other reason than it drew attention to just how many people could see through the b^llsh1t C0nv1d narrative. I have no regrets for attending many of them. I genuinely think we pose a threat, which is why they are so eager to silence us and limit our freedoms. Thanks for the comment Carolyn.
Synchronisation of minds amazing, but just like the movement the speaker is stuck on strange opinions just like evaluation THEORY'S, we should all be discussing freely.
As would be stated mongst my crew... 'Thas some reet billification' 👊 A fine conversation gentlemen, kudos 🙂 Derogatory, contradictory & even hypocritical in parts 👀 Supreme observations & look forward to the book, & it's follow up... Diolch yn Fawr 💫 ... . .. ... . .. ... . sAFe !!! ⚡️🌀❤️ /|\
Ohhh crap! I was enjoying the conversation until he said he believes we came from monkeys ohh Waooo truly awakened mate we have here , what’s next? We live in spinning ball or dinosaurs are real?? Unfortunately I won’t find out since I’m not watching this any further, I’ll wait for your next amazing video ! Take care Mark
Youve got nothing to add other than criticism. Finding the truth is a private thing where peoplle research for themselves , its not necessary to blast all over the internet or join groups of sheep. But once you said you believe in darwins slime theory, sorry it was time to end this show. Do we give a damn what you think ?
I dont believe in karma as in f.ex someone work hard enough and does everything by the book and with love and kindhearted and live suffering and hardship and did not Get such a great life and another hand if you where a gangster and criminial and hurt other would be famous with no remerse
This whole matrix/simulation thing only came along after the rise of IT. It's not based on first principles and, to me, is just a branch of the New Age. As for the truly awake question, if I was asked, could only site Ken Wheeler... maybe Mark Windows as well, Ransom Godwin to a point and Andy from Deep Share Podcast. As for Mark Passio: His version of Natural Law is absolute fkn hoodoo.
I have suspected the same myself, but then again I don't trust anybody in the alternative media 100% Out of curiosity, what makes you think they are gatekeepers? It would be useful to compare against my own suspicions.
As expected. So, am I to understand by your statement that either Mark or myself are gatekeepers? Ok, great theory, show me your proof, I'm all ears....
@@paulrooke Incidentally... If I were acting on behalf of the elites... I would expect a massive payrise, given the level of stupidity we are dealing with in the movement. But again, the number of people being accused of "shilling" without evidence is absolutely stunning, a testement to the Dunning-Kruger mentality of the movement. Accusation without evidence. Archaix did a great video on exposing shills, perhaps have a look into it, as his audience seem largely switched on in the right direction.
@@Peter-xi1ifThis is yet another problem with many so called "truthers" Nathan, they can't even discern that people like you and Mark are genuine and sincere. Everything has become a muddled mess these days and imo it has been orchestrated that way.
Absolutely correct guys!! I feel down the Trump train in 2019. I jumped off in 2023. I have been grateful to have found the fact that we are in a simulation. I'm still really angry. Its been a lonely journey. Thank you both very much for your time!!! COLUMBIA SC USA ❤
I’m a certified Mark Devlin listener so I’m always here hearing from the best 🥳
Until monkey boy comes in.
I can’t believe he is awake with all those things and then, Monkey ook ook. 😂
He isn't in the least bit " awake "...he's an idiot whose great grandparents were monkeys....
The truth is within us. there is no need to look external. In silence, all the answers are revealed.
If that were true, then you'd be the first offering solutions.
@louiscalabrese9945 I have only answers for my life your journey is separate. Pay attention.
Watching this video again. It is true what you say ofc. You cannot be a total ass on the inside while being a gent on the outside. It's gonna slip through the mask one acts as being, if one tries to cover it up, it is revealed through ones actions wherever one is fake (putting on an act) eventually.
Ofcourse, if I love myself, I'll be loving towards others. If I hate myself, I'll have a hard time liking others, no matter how hard I'll try. So inner conflict leads to outer conflict and the programming is to turn oneself into conflict with oneself, to turn one against others.
EDIT: a thought about it is. these satanists, luciferians who run the world...maybe they embrace their trauma somehow from their childhood (cause I've heard from research, that, they are traumatized) to challenge it perhaps? to live in a sense of sacrificing their cares, instead of overcoming? cremation of care?
@@louiscalabrese9945 Amen!
@Peter-xi1if keep seeking outside yourself, and you'll be lead astray.
The thing I love about Mark is his willingness to change his mind, a virtue sadly lacking in almost all so-called "truth seekers." Spot-on about the keynote speaker's ego, and we all know who they are. They've nailed their colours to the mast and refuse to take them down!
How many people have you seen talking utter nonsense then talking about how they became " awake " and asking other people when did you wake up, as if it is some club they are in " the wide awake club ". Be humble and realise we all know very little in the grand scheme of things, we don't even know how or why we are here.
Quite agree that as humans we should recognise that we know so little, but a club at least will give us some pushback, just to persuade them enough so they stop making plans to send us in re-education camps, as they did during the Plandemic mania.
What a breathe of fresh air this chat is!! 😅 I often feel fickle because i change my mind on things so much but the more you learn the more you realise you dont know!! Thank you, Mark❤
We have to accept different views and come together. I have learned with great difficulty, how not to be triggered by different perspectives to my personal beliefs. I was lucky to be bought up by parents who taught me to question everything. As always, a brilliant podcast with Mark. Mark shattered my music paradigms which was tough at the time.
Action is part of the manifestation along with many other things. We can positively affect our energy field and vibration.
The Flat Earth Truth is not a perspective, its not an opinion....it is not debatable by some moron globetard.
Some things are FACTS, and this world being flat and motionless is one of those facts.
Very fascinating conversation. I lke the fact that they don't aim for agreeing on everything, but rather listen to each other.
There's one point in the talk where Nathan emphasizes the need to do the research by going to libraries, listening to podcasts etc. While I do think that this is important I would argue that it is far more important to llnk yourself back to reality by constantly testing your experience and perception. Because this is all we can know for sure (as long as we're not under the influence). I would disagree with Nathan that Flat Earth is something invented by the bad guys to divide the truth movement. My direct experience does not show me that I am living on a spinning ball, but rather that I am on a stationary plane. That is not to say that I know that the earth is flat, but my experience let's me come to the conclusion. The globe model is something that has been forced on me in school and has to be backed up by "sience". And why would they have lied to us about everything except for the shape of the realm we live in.
Also when Nathan mentions that David Icke is "awake" because he had the Kundalini. Well, that is just a belief. No one has ever seen or felt the Kundalini except for the people claiming to have had the experience. According to the old Hindu texts it is some kind of serpent energy. While I do not know if Reptilians control this realtiy it does have a sinister edge to it. Tony Sayers claims that it is definitely evil.
Again, I don't have a definite answer and I love the fact that both Nathan and Mark have changed their point of view numerous times over the years. Same here.
Yes, nice honest aware awake comment.
This Nathan guy is either an idiot or a paid liar, or both....
Hi there, many thanks for your input. If I might: Yes, what I am advocating for here is a return to grounded reality, to check, challenge and test our own beliefs, opinions and experiences. I am happy to disagree with people as long as we can keep it civil. I certainly cannot prove the Earth is a "globe" because until I'm up there, looking down... I must form an educated opinion based on the information I come across. From my perspective, the Earth is a globe, but as I have said many times, I may be wrong. Fair play to you. As far as me "believing" that David Icke had a Kundalini, I would like to address this a little further. I like David and I consider him to be genuine. It is my opinion that he has told the truth regarding his experiences, but obviously, that is something I personally can't prove. I make a very clear distinction between "opinion" and "belief". As for changing my opinions, I suspect it will happen a lot more in future, and I make no apologies for this. I like your thinking, thanks for your comment.
@@Peter-xi1if Thank you for your sincere reply.That is exactly the kind of exchange that is getting us further on our path through this enigma we call life. I will definitely order your book. Look forward to learning about your take on the many pitfalls in the "truth" community. Being located in Germany I have to get it through a..z.n.
As for David Icke, I highly respect him. His work is outstanding and I know of very few people who have ploughed through this whole mess with such dignity. I only wanted to point out the Kundalini aspect, knowing that I don*t know anything for sure.
I love your distinction between "opinion" and "belief". I should have clarified that more in my comment.
Again, thank you for your response. I highly appreciate your interaction!
@@wollmo05 Hi mate, firstly, you are welcome for the reply... I think I got a little over zealous with one of my comments yesterday evening... a side effect of not sleepig properly perhaps? I think it is important to define certain terms, because often they are misunderstood and then misinterpreted as a consequence. I have a page and a half of defining terms so that the reader and I can be on the same page... no pun intended. In regards to the book, I had to issue a caveat because it's rather... blunt. As I said in the podcast, I am attempting to point out our failings (and I have plenty of those myself, admittedly) so that we may begin to resolve our issues - society wide. If you have any further comments, questions or criticisms, please, get in touch. Thanks for the comment mate. Have a good one.
Great discussion from both mark and Nathan.... Very thought provoking
I agree with David Icke being truly awake, along with Mark! Some others I believe are: Mark from Forever Conscious channel, Wayne from Sovereign Spirits, Frank Jacobs, Alexis from Higher Journeys, Max Igan, Tony Sayers...and there definitely are some others I just can't recall
Yes! Annemarie Uber, Ian at We are Awake too!
Jeff berick
Inspired by Jean Nolan as well. Tony Sayers.
Jay Weidner? Jason Breashears?
Ola wolny is awake too ❤
Anyone who is truly "over the target" ends up like Dr Buttar , Rosa Kore ,Ted Gunderson etc
Who
Nathan is right on so many points. But as usual. Mark is right on all. ‘Flat Earth is sent to divide us’.
Oh dear Nathan. Time to learn from your own 📕
Brilliant guys, thank you
Yes, I agree about David Icke.
i know that the more i learn, the less i know. And no one book no one teacher. And we live in duality. Belief is the enemy of knowing. Natural law the hermetic laws are some of the things I tell others to start with. You have to go into the dark to understand the true light. That's all I got after 25 years and I do it alone. I've lost literally anybody that I loved.
I think you and I would get along just fine! I absolutely agree with you. You do tend to loose a lot of friends when digging into this stuff, thankfully there is an up-side to it all, which is that it brings you closer to the truth and closer to wisdom (no guarantees though). In regards to Hermeticism, yeah, absolutely, but then I would encourage the reader to take it further and look into Kabbalah as well. How about this one: "The more I know, the more I know how little I know". Thanks for the comment.
My problem with the truth community is that it's very often as judgemental as those deemed asleep. Both telling us all how we should behave, what we need to do, how we should live etc. Anybody that treats us like we should be/do/think like them is a turnoff to me; we're all different and here for different purposes. I'm tired of people telling me to go against my authentic self and my own instincts so I don't belong to any community anymore. And I'm okay with that. I'll do me thanks.
This is what I refer to as the "should people" - those constantly telling you what you should and shouldn't be thinking or doing. Is that not people imposing their will and unwanted opinions and advice onto others? I agree with you, the "truth" community certainly does have a problem with ego, arrogance and self-rightious opinion. "A house divided against itself cannot stand". The truth community destroyed itself, because of ignorance and arrogance. If we focussed and unified, putting petty differences aside... imagine what we could achieve in very little time! Shame on us!
I've been listening reading and doing my own research since I was 17 that was a long time ago. Sure I do not have my own podcast sure I don't try and wake others up. I'm just trying to stay alive. Manifestation is a bunch of crap. You are brought into this place against your will and given what you'll get. All these people that go around saying life is great are just brain dead slaves to whatever material things they have sold there soul for. I'm so with this dude on the fact they basically made our community a bunch of fighting babies. I could make a list of the plants in our space since 2016.
Please do
I would love to hear more... as for "manifestation is a bunch of crap" - yup, totally agree. well said. Thanks for the comment 🙂
Im going with what Max says, "the truth is none of us really know the truth ", it feels like I learn something new about something I never even thought about or haven't considered in a while.I watched my husband die very slow & painfully over the last 4yr .
I got him thru the the Chgo medical system refusing to mask or anything , As I spent lots of time getting physically kicked out of hospitals😂 I Make sure that they never stopped calling out the behavior of the staff, Needless to say the super christians that we rented from &subcontracted for over 20 years, are now literally putting me on the street in january cuz my income is cut, Despite the fact that I can pay I'm being subjected to different standards....
I was refused medical assistance because I refused to wear a mask. What a wonderful, caring profession the medical establishment is eh! They care so much, they refuse to treat people because the don't feel safe, even when wearing their f*&king hazmat suits, masks and visors. Shameful.
The success of the nanny state was to make people think that someone powerful cares…
Those of us who experienced narcissistic parenting already had a leads up on that one.. those of us, isolated from when we were young, remained authentic. Our gut instinct was to maintain self and be independent.
So, thank you mother, for showing me the way 😂
Penny dropping moment for me!
The problem is this:
Objective reality is just another word for Consensus reality. And consensus reality is not True reality. This is the problem, the confusion, the delusion that is the stopping the progress of even the most sincere truth seekers.
I have experienced a period of my life where the law of attraction was working for me. It really works, but it’s not an intellectual process. It involves a special state of being which can be achieved only when a certain inner passion and joy is invoked that is deeply heartfelt.
I lost it when I tried to prove it to other people and is difficult to repeat.
A certain percentage is still there and doing ok, but nothing like before.
I could focus on getting back in this state and remain there, but not ready now. It is an art, the ultimate art. People are reluctant to take the plunge, as it is a lonely place, your own reality and really works. Most of us don’t go there because most of us would suffer rather than feel lonely, not connecting to the generally negative world of society.
This is not a theory or intellectual thought, but 100% of my personal experience. Hope it helps as a contribution to the conversation.
Sorry mate, I think you have misunderstood 'Objective Reality' which has nothing to do with consensus. Consensus reality is subjective, not objective. Problem is rather that people have not been taught the difference, because of society and family etc. The book covers this subject in great detail and makes a very clear distinction between the two. Hope this helps. Cheers.
Hi brankon, thanks for your comment. It inspired me. :)
How can the Singular Ultimate Objective Truth just a consensus confirmation....What an utterly dumb thing to think.
I never said that. The Singular Ultimate Objective truth can only be known to The Singular Ultimate Creator.
As a human the ultimate truth can only be felt as intuition, but can never be fully comprehended.
Anyone that thinks that ultimate truth is knowable while living in this earth/matrix must be thinking some really dumb things.
Like trying to find consensus with enough people so they can proclaim their Objective truth and die and kill for it. The method these suckers use to confirm Objective truth is by consensus and nothing else.
Any so called experiment is influenced by the subject performing it, but the results are declared Objective, quite dumb.
So they call it Objective truth, how dumb is that. Subjective truth is not inferior to so called Objective truth, it just appears that way to dumb people.
I get annoyed sometimes because my child hood was a fucking nightmare lol.
Mine was too… still is and I’m 50!
Bloody narcissists
@@Gooddog-guide That term has been weaponized, be careful. Apparently i am a narc.
It boils done to good and bad people. selfish and communal decisions outweighs.
Hardly anyone has a good childhood because..... our parents need to learn how to slave instead of how to parent
Yep
Growing up in the 70/80s was hell tbh
Don't tell everyone your problems bro
Mark and Nathan spitting truths.
It's when you are in a room and you realise that you offend certain people by just being there.
Open your mouth and oh my.
Staying alive.
Some people don't want your existence. ??!
Totally agree with nathan about shadow work.. It is painful but i believe you need to face your fears because its very freeing
Wow. I ordered this book a couple of days ago.
Thank you.
I watch Chris (Eric Von Essex). Very clever man, a wealth of knowledge especially when it comes to War. I've brought his dads book. He hasnt got a load of followers but the ones he has, most have been with him since the beginning. Hes definatly worth having a listen to
Oooo like that from nathan about the soul plan... I do wonder this myself of why we dont remember "our past lives" so we can learn from them
Question Everything
I have taught my lad that. He is now a well based young man.
This was very good👍🏽 Thankyou
Great talk lads...... Thank goodness a book out with truth on the "movement" but well done to all those who know what's going on and doing the work.... Too many boys and girls and not enough adults with morales and values.... Following false idols who thing they are the saviour... WAKE UP UP!!!
Jason Breshears (Archaix) has done extensive research. He says we're in a simulacrum, and there's been a rest every 138 yrs. Next one is 2040.
Yes Jason is an astonishing data bank of well dug out and researched information 👌
He also is a S^X offended I do not care about his "data" he lost his voice and rights. Do you even do your own research? Or do you become a fan of things still?
Yes Jason of Archaix. A reset I believe you mean. Jason has an overwhelming amount of content.
And. So. What...??
Some idiot with a weirdly demonic voice says stuff and you quote it as Truth....!?
@@redgeraniums57 Yes. Whenever I type reset, it changes to 'rest' and I don't always see it. 😃
Thank you so much for this. I really resonated with it. Though, I don't think we have to give up belief,I do think the truth movement is not at all what I thought it was. I thought it would be a together tribe and I don't know what I thought, but it's not that. It doesn't feel like a community to me. It doesn't feel like a tight knit group or family or anything of what I thought. It's bickering, fighting, ego and some sort of " show" I don't know. I guess I thought we would all come together and learn about community. But it's not that... and online connection is not great. Anyway... who knows. I guess I'm moving away from it now and I don't think it's good for the soul and for being a good person. I'm very disappointed in it.
if we keep thinking negtive thats what you will get
Perfect timing Mark, just listened to Mark Bajerski talking to Ole Dammegard as I do my training and was thinking what to listen to now and boom up popped your notification.
“Awake” is not a switch on the wall that one just flips
Great information!!!❤
Three things:
1). I agree you need to essentially "keep going" in terms of your research. In my case, I thought I had a pretty good handle on things in the 2014/15 time frame. That's when I jumped into the music stuff with Mark, Mike Williams, and the late Dave Mcgowan. What started out as an escape/Lark, ended up being a huge blessing as it tied in so perfectly with my previous research.
2). I sat the Flat Earth out. My logic at the time was this was a card in the infamous Illuminati Card Game. Secondly, and I'm not knocking anyone who studies this area because it is important, regardless of what conclusion I would have come to, it wouldn't have affected me either way.
3). Completely disagree with the lads regarding the Bible. Some amazing things are happening right before our eyes, just like scripture says it will, and so many can't see it. Anyway, peace and blessings from the Twin Cities.
Thanks for the comments. I am curious to hear your thoughts regarding the bible and why you think we are wrong. Happy to discuss further, as long as we keep it civil. The illuminati cards are certainly interesting and worth investigating... how the hell did they do it? Is it evidence of a simulation or a script playing out?
Where are the Twin Cities? Cheers mate.
Belief is the enemy of knowing
A commumity is a community is a community.
Same reason communes fail.
I saw a lot of this back when the Occupy movement was happening.
People not seeing where they were being led.
Where were they led...where are they...
That was brilliant thanks.
Thank you! Much appreciated.
They do things we wouldn't because everything is on their side.. They have the protection, we don't.
Been awaiting mark and eric von essex at fock em hall on a Monday night at 8 oclock for years would make a good union of a show!!!!👍👍👍
because people want hope
spot on with d icke!!
I wont be buying that book lol 😜😜😜
Didn't the Bible say, "We were made in THEIR image". Which also makes a lot of sense that's why they can hide amongst us causing chaos and destruction whilst blaming us
Gret interview thanks.
'Holy Kool Aid' is a good YT channel that critiques Christianity.
It made me laugh hearing about 'book burnings' though, as if you actually really look into the book burnings of WW2 and see that the supposed 'bad guys' were actually doing us, and our children, a favour with the books they burned.
Yes look at Deuteronomy 24:16. Jesus didn't die for anyone's sins. Sad how many people are willfully blind to this 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢
Many book burnings have occured throughout history. Whenever tyranny rules, censorship and book burnings begin big time. The Romans did it by scorching several of the ancient libraries in Egypt and Anatolia for example.
we must ignor the darkness
How's that worked out for you?
Its really interesting to notice how different
Saw through the Q movement immediately. 🥴
Yep 😂
Anyone on here in Auckland NZ? Trying to connect with conscious people, I just can't connect with normies anymore, kinda lonely existence lol
Mate I left Wollongong nsw headed to perth and synchronic events gave me connection to awake people I totally understand what you are feeling I would say to myself I am going to meet awake people today and I did it every morning and I have a few people I can enjoy being around
I hope it helps
Namaste 😊
@WillAH956 Thanks for your message mate, yeah hopefully I can meet people at a similar level of consciousness and try and enjoy this hell at least a little bit. Cheers
@@adamwalkeruk1989 welcome Adam we gotta look after each other as our old friends are gone 😔
@WillAH956 So true, just seems like us that are awake are split up miles away from each other 😮💨
@@adamwalkeruk1989 yeah absolutely 💯 I lost virtually every friend because I couldn't connect to trivial crap they were focused on but keep positive you will meet fellow truth seekers the next chapter of your life will be much better
Why is it unfortunate that we have a conscience.. Id rather be me than them. I guess theres many of us that wouldnt understand the psychopaths because we arnt them.
Edited: With regard to comments about people being shills and gatekeepers etc. It is all too often thrown around in the movement without evidence or good reason, other than if someone has a different opinion, it must mean they are a shill. I have literally profiled this mindset in the book.
Regarding the question of Objective Morality - yes it can be known and it is clearly defined. Nor is it a difficult concept to grasp. To the people who dismiss me because I consider evolution to be factual and evidence based... this proves my point about the state of consciousness in the truth movement. Just because you disagree with the opinion of others DOESN'T make you right, nor does it make them a shill. I have staked my claims and made my position known, if people think I am wrong... fair enough. Thanks for the feedback either way. "condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance".
@@Peter-xi1if Hello,
I don't know whether you are a shill or not, as I have never even heard of you before this interview.
I will admit however to have questioned whether Mark might be, based on some of the people he associates himself with and is interviewed by - despite that I still listen to his podcasts with an open mind.
One thing I will say though is that your reply appears to be the most triggered comment in the comments section, when you accuse others who question either Mark, yourself or both of being triggered for merely questioning whether you might be gatekeepers.
It sounds like there is a lot of projection in your comments, and you blast people for having an ego, when it sounds like yours has been extremely bruised to reply in the manner that you have. When you start insulting people who question things or people then you have instantly lost the argument, and your own ego has come into effect.
I actually thought you came across fairly well and knowledgeable in the podcast, but you haven't done yourself any favours in the aggressive nature you have responded.
You stated in the podcast that you don't mind constructive criticism?
@@paulrooke The old shill argument gets thrown around a lot in the truther sphere and so I find it quite concerning that people are so eager to accuse others without having any evidence at all to back it up with. You could say it's a personal gripe and yes, perhaps a trigger point given that I wrote a chapter on the subject. I thank you for your honesty and your comments, which are fair game at this point. As far as ego is concerned, I don't doubt for one minute that I have an ego, I think everyone has an ego, the point I was trying to raise here is that it is a very blatent problem within the movement - not that people have an ego... but that their ego's are out of control (movement wide). As for constructive criticism, that is how we learn and dare I say... evolve...? In which case, I thank you for the feedback. After re-reading my post, it did seem somewhat aggressive as you pointed out. I have made some edits to tone it down.
@@Peter-xi1if I agree it does get used a lot, and towards almost everybody nowadays.
The problem is that trust is at an all time low. This is no doubt engineered by the parasites also, in order to create division amongst ourselves.
It's a fine balance, and although we shouldn't completely trust anybody 100%, there is a fine line sometimes in stepping over that and suspecting everybody of having dishonest intentions.
Lenin stated that the best way to control the opposition is to lead it ourselves, and there is certainly a large element of that infiltrating the so called freedom/truther movement. Therefore it is healthy to question everything and everybody, but yes without proof maybe we should keep quiet until the time that we have enough evidence or gut instinct.
I respect your response and your honesty 👍
We have to take a lot at face value because this insanity runs through every institution. Science, history, music, film, gov, education, etc etc. If everyone researches every genre, we'll get no where and won't be able to do anything?
The fact that contained water seeks its level is not an “opinion”
Only the wrong’uns are truly awake.
Reset every 138 years!
I have it about 100 years tops looped to this very timeframe ~1950-~2050 over and over
Unfortunately Passio puts ppl off with his yelling 😅
Another brilliant podcast. I'm very intrigued by the coffee shop analogy.
Thank you for reminding me I should have included that in the show description. It's there now.
@djmarkdevlin hey Mark what you think of zager & evens song lyrics in the year 2525 ,has to be forknowledge
@@djmarkdevlinI'm glad I reminded you as the analogy is brilliant. How the fuck are we meant to learn anything when we have no idea what we are meant to be learning. Gaslighting much.
Trust the plan lol 😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂
But... what is "the plan"?
Yeah the quantum financial system is here to save us.😅.
Dr Joe Dispenza work!!; his students are ordinary people and do Biblical Wonders Every Day !!! No gurus No Liders ,No Priest,No Religion Just Open Hearts 💓
And very expensive retreats....he offers
@@superkalifragilistik4974 yes. Not cheap. I've been there aii will go this year again. About £2000. Including all day food ect. No hotels.. But you are 7 day in Loving ,Crazy Beautiful experiences .And I have opened my Pineal Gland eye and I wouldn't change 1 minute of my life since then. Wasn't easy but now I walk in bouth worlds Astral and 3D. The Astral world is what all coming from and Im not afraid any more as I just smile.
A propos the distortion of true cosmology - from a dude who knew a thing or two about a thing or two:
"One who asks from the standpoint of occultism, what kind of world-conception can be derived from the Copernican tenets, will have to admit that they are incapable of promoting any understanding of the spiritual foundations of the world and the things of the world-for truth to tell there has never been a worse instrument for understanding the spiritual foundations of the world than the ideas of Copernicus-never in the evolution of the human mind! The reason for this is that all these Copernican concepts are inspired by Lucifer. Copernicanism is one of the last attacks, one of the last great attacks made by Lucifer upon the evolution of man. In earlier, pre-Copernican thought, the external world was, indeed, maya: but much traditional wisdom, much truth concerning the world and the things of the world still survived. Since Copernicus, however, man has maya around him not only in his material perceptions but his concepts and ideas in themselves are maya. Today men regard it as self-evident that the sun stands firmly at the centre with the planets revolving around it in elliptics. In no far distant future, however, it will be realised that the view of the world of stars held by Copernicus is much less correct than the earlier, Ptolemaic view. The view of the world held by the school of Copernicus and Kepler is, in many respects, convenient, but as an explanation of the macrocosm it is not the truth." - Rudolf Steiner
Why does the youtube bot now feel the need to turn my subtitles off for each new video?
Robot, do not change my settings unless I indicate so.
Dont make my decisions.
You cannot autocorrect one word correctly and you then reject my comment. Technology fails again.
It’s all fun and games until your best friend doesn’t speak to you unless it’s absolutely necessary because she accuses you of manifesting bad stuff for her inadvertently.
I believe on eric dubay on flat earth is not believe system
Great interview thanks.
'Holy Kool Aid' is a good YT channel that critiques Christianity.
It made me laugh hearing about 'book burnings' though, because if you actually really look into the book burnings of WW2 and see that the supposed 'bad guys' were actually doing us, and our children, a favour with the books they burned.
a lot of so called truthers still think we live on a spinning ball
You are either awake, or part of the noise.
stop following, be your own hero it works for me 😊
Whats the coffee shop analogy pls
1. You go into a shop and ask for a coffee. The server refuses. You ask why. She says because you didn't ask in the right way. You ask how you're supposed to ask. She says it's not her job to tell you and you need to figure it out for yourself.
2. You're gasping for a coffee. You go into the shop and ask for one. The server refuses. You ask why. She says, you wanted it too much.
3. You ask for a coffee. The server gives you a tea. You say you wanted a coffee. The server says she knows, but sometimes you get the opposite of what you want. You ask what kind of sense that makes. She says it's not her job to tell you and you have to figure it out for yourself.
4. You ask for a coffee. The server takes your money. You're waiting for fucking ages, but no coffee turns up. You ask when it's coming. The server wags a finger and says you have to be patient and you'll get the coffee when it's good and ready and not a moment before.
5. You ask for a coffee. The server spills it on you. You get mad. The server gets all righteous and says it's not her fault for spilling it, it's YOUR fault for getting angry. She spilt it to teach you a lesson. You ask what the lesson is. She says it's not her job to tell you and you have to figure it out for yourself.
6. Someone next to you orders a coffee and gets exactly what they wanted straight away. You ask how that's fair. She says it's not her job to tell you and you have to figure it out for yourself.
7. A million people all order a coffee. Not one coffee arrives. You all call for the server to explain herself. The server is nowhere to be seen.
Here you go Fiona.
Icke 😂 remember this, a good liar always tells the truth.
He thinks we live on a spinning waterball? 😮😮😮😮😮 fiuuuuuk meeeeeee.
All the Marches got us nowhere too. I never fell for Q anon, White hats etc. They all came out of nowhere just at the right time
Yep Qanon. Totally fucked up the truth movements momentum.
I actually think the protests did a lot of good, if for no other reason than it drew attention to just how many people could see through the b^llsh1t C0nv1d narrative. I have no regrets for attending many of them. I genuinely think we pose a threat, which is why they are so eager to silence us and limit our freedoms. Thanks for the comment Carolyn.
Synchronisation of minds amazing, but just like the movement the speaker is stuck on strange opinions just like evaluation THEORY'S, we should all be discussing freely.
As would be stated mongst my crew...
'Thas some reet billification' 👊
A fine conversation gentlemen, kudos 🙂
Derogatory, contradictory & even hypocritical in parts 👀
Supreme observations & look forward to the book, & it's follow up...
Diolch yn Fawr 💫
... . .. ... . .. ... . sAFe !!! ⚡️🌀❤️ /|\
Ohhh crap! I was enjoying the conversation until he said he believes we came from monkeys ohh Waooo truly awakened mate we have here , what’s next? We live in spinning ball or dinosaurs are real?? Unfortunately I won’t find out since I’m not watching this any further, I’ll wait for your next amazing video ! Take care Mark
Good chat. Shame about the image depicting a globe earth.
I think it’s rather fitting.
Well, it was meant to be a bit of a trigger point either way to be honest. Many thanks.
@@Peter-xi1if and it worked obviously lol
Different souls inhabit human shells. In Icke family Jamey is "evil" soul and Icke has that Dutch Christina who also is from evil side.
Well, he talked a lot but he didn’t say anything…
If they reset the realm, they can erase even physical books
at the root peel of the onion, nothing's physical ... nothing's real but thought
Yes. Actually good point - I guess nothing is forever in that regard.
@@atlasgunther8947 1st Principle of Hermeticism: ALL is MIND - but who is the thinker???
@@Peter-xi1if demons (groupings of thoughts) that's all there is ... and we are made of
Wheres nathans email please Mark? Cannot see it 🤷
Mark u is minters...love it.x
Trust the plants hahaha
Youve got nothing to add other than criticism. Finding the truth is a private thing where peoplle research for themselves , its not necessary to blast all over the internet or join groups of sheep. But once you said you believe in darwins slime theory, sorry it was time to end this show. Do we give a damn what you think ?
The fact that you dismiss me because you disagree with my opinion speaks volumes and just proves my point really. Thanks for the feedback.
Pond slime? All a theory? Why are we not using what goes on around us??, open mindness and common sense is a big one!!!!!!
Yep
Yin and yang
I dont believe in karma as in f.ex someone work hard enough and does everything by the book and with love and kindhearted and live suffering and hardship and did not Get such a great life and another hand if you where a gangster and criminial and hurt other would be famous with no remerse
This whole matrix/simulation thing only came along after the rise of IT. It's not based on first principles and, to me, is just a branch of the New Age. As for the truly awake question, if I was asked, could only site Ken Wheeler... maybe Mark Windows as well, Ransom Godwin to a point and Andy from Deep Share Podcast. As for Mark Passio: His version of Natural Law is absolute fkn hoodoo.
Gatekeepers exposing gatekeepers. Nice try lol...
I have suspected the same myself, but then again I don't trust anybody in the alternative media 100%
Out of curiosity, what makes you think they are gatekeepers?
It would be useful to compare against my own suspicions.
As expected. So, am I to understand by your statement that either Mark or myself are gatekeepers? Ok, great theory, show me your proof, I'm all ears....
@@paulrooke Incidentally... If I were acting on behalf of the elites... I would expect a massive payrise, given the level of stupidity we are dealing with in the movement. But again, the number of people being accused of "shilling" without evidence is absolutely stunning, a testement to the Dunning-Kruger mentality of the movement. Accusation without evidence. Archaix did a great video on exposing shills, perhaps have a look into it, as his audience seem largely switched on in the right direction.
Mark Devlin is definitely not a gatekeeper. Where is your discernment? Watch and listen to people more closely and learn.
@@Peter-xi1ifThis is yet another problem with many so called "truthers" Nathan, they can't even discern that people like you and Mark are genuine and sincere. Everything has become a muddled mess these days and imo it has been orchestrated that way.
Yep have watched many Eric von essex & steve james 👍
Its really interesting to notice how different
Its really interesting to notice how different
Its really interesting to notice how different
Its really interesting to notice how different
Its really interesting to notice how different
Its really interesting to notice how different