@@ManCarSua true true. Also with Sampo, I totally agree with major threat. I can see him being a noob killer of a boss like Matador from Nocturne, if you don't come with the proper tools to cheese his fight, he'd be a nightmare of an enemy to go up against
The fact that you would compare him to Matador feels so accurate honestly, I would have never thought of it in that way, but now that you say it aloud it 100% feels so accurate for him. Matador with all the "miss" text popping up and making people learn how to use sukunda and sukukaja spells was an experience to be sure
Asta family are super high ranking ipc officials She can call a fleet of warships whenever she wants practically. She deserves obstacle tier Yukong might be retired but she was killing borsins just fine in the story quest too
Asta has a lot of power behind in terms of influence and money that is true. I was looking at it on a just fighting basis. If anything she would be in a supporting role like Serval was as a summoner type As for Yukong, yeah I was a bit too rough on her. I hadn't done the 2.5 quest yet when I did the tier list. I only knew a few bits and pieces from watching some streamer friends that did it because I was sick. Yukong definitely held her own ground vs the Borisin which are to be feared within their own right and are comparable to the freaking Swarm Bugs
While i kinda agree that aventurine is minimum a major threat i just want to remind people that aventurine stone was shattered at the time and i think at the time its power is probably scratching the surface. And even then he managed to hold against himeko, welt, march and trailblazer not only that he managed to push Acheron enough to use her power. So i do think the ipc stoneheart has capabilities to be in endgame
The only reason I didn't put Aventurine in End Game is because creatures like Diamond and Opal exist honestly. If that Myriad Celestia where his cornerstone was restored and he was effectively told "no, you don't get to retire" didn't release I think I wouldn't be overthinking what kind of powers the higher ups at the IPC could have. Also not only did he push Acheron to use her own powers, WELT was about to unleash his own powers too, but Acheron did so first. But I think if Welt did so, there would have been no more Penacony lol I do hope we can see Aventurine at full power fighting on our side with his Cornerstone no longer damaged. I like that he has been playing a sort of Anti-Hero sort of role within the story. I geniunely adore him
Even before watching the video, i want to say that we NEED a boss version of sampo or sparkle because masked fools are so freaking good (if i remember correctly, sparkle is theorized to be the mask? so maybe de do like sha can copy other bosses and skills and things like that XD) I will edit after i see the video, but i will say that i think it will be good!!
Sampo WITH his mask would be an absolutely sick boss fight to face off against in all honesty. With him being a super mischevious person and the way he is it would be an interesting boss fight in all honesty. I can see him pulling off a few tricks, summoning decoys or things of the sort. Sparkle as well would be cool as a supportive boss fight, since similarly to how Bronya works already. OMG having Sparkle copy a supportive boss like Bronya or something similar would be so chaotic or so funny, but also so infuriating and RNG reliant that I think it would be perfect. Like for a turn she just turns into a random boss and does a move against as to Crowd Control us or buff the enemy she supports. I will do another reply later when I see the edit on the comment
@@ManCarSua I watched the video, and i agree with almost every character! I think sparkle + sampo boss would go fire, like they want to set a "stage" and they have to fool us to do it, so the boss consist in sparkle transforming and creating clones of sampo, so the boss lit can pass from cocolia to aventurine and things like that, so we can torture the filthy casuals **Laughs intensyfies** Also, the only thing i want to point out at this tierlist, i think herta base form would be at obstacle, like, she has a lot of puppets XD, but, if we count that is sayed on game that she is an erudition emanator... she goes straight to end game 100% (i know her puppets dont have her powers if im right, but when we say herta at least im counting also her real body, even if we havent seen it for now) I liked the video, keep it up!!
@@ZEUSTHEGOD___ Not only would Sampo and Sparkle be an amazing boss fight in concept, but they would have an absolutely amazing OST I feel. So it would be one that I'd definitely look forward to. With how chaotic they can be, I would 100% be down for how intense that fight can easily be. I do think Herta, as her non puppet self would easily be end game, though I was speaking in the sense of since we see just the puppets I see her as probably looking at them as disposable. That being said... New idea imagine a boss fight that is just an actual horde of Herta puppets, just like many different modules with different roles and such. Like a sort of Pure Fiction styled Boss Fight where we get overwhelemed by a wave of them that progressively get stronger. I think that would be sick I am glad you enjoyed the video!
Respectfully, Robin would absolutely be a support. She turns the tide for us in the boss fight with Sunday (and also brings the metaphorical train containing the people of Penacony’s wishes with her). I would NOT want to fuck with any boss fight that has her in it
You know what, that is fair. I feel like I was being a bit too rough on her from when she got trapped by Sunday, but she was a key member in helping us taking care of Sunday and rallying everyone together. You are right on that. And yes, that metaphorical and literal train would be horrifying to face
@@ManCarSua tbh I don’t blame her at all for getting trapped by Sunday when Welt *also* got trapped by Sunday, and we all know how powerful Welt is. Plus, the whole emotional conflict of only just realizing how far Sunday, her own brother, has truly fallen while she was gone. But thanks for the reply, it’s always nice to see a cc engage with the audience:)
@@bookfan1239 True, it would be hard for her to go against her own brother especially when she is trying to help out Penacony and is in a very emotional state, at the moment in the story. And given how even Welt got trapped it was rough indeed
Yunli would arguably be the worst to fight against. The constant counters and the constant healing she would be borderline impossible to kill. Not to mention she’s just overall tanky in general. Insane damage + healing + reduces damage taken? You literally cannot play
Both her and honestly Blade in hindsight too given how Blade would also play similarly and would want you to hit him in order for him to retaliate with a much stronger attack that heals himself. But yeah, Yunli I think would be very frustrating to deal with. It would be interesting to see a stall team set up against her though, focused around Freezes so she cannot counter attack and DoTs to make sure she takes the DMG in a sort of slow burn play style. Infuriating, but effective. Looking at her kit as but in terms of us being the opponent it does feel like it would be unbeatable otherwise
@@ManCarSua that’s another thing though a freeze team wouldn’t be that effective against her since her stance parry mode makes her immune to CC. And knowing how her kit works she would be spamming that out often. I truly feel like yunli and blade would be almost impossible to beat
@@fr3941 that is true. Though she isn't fully immune, she gains more resistances to CC (I have been applied with Strong Reverbation by the Xianzhou Aurumaton Lady before while in Parry State). That being said, her gaining more resistances would be over all very complicated and rough to deal with regardless. They really would be nearly impossible fights yeah
@@ManCarSua the reverberation works differently than other ccs it’s not considered crowd control for some reason. But you can still find a way around it. Yunli mains FAQ explains how it works since it’s stated in her kit she becomes CC immune when in her parry state. But overall this tier list is good
@@fr3941 ooooooh thanks for the information, I was not aware of that! I really appreciate the information. Thanks for educating me on it! Also glad to hear you think the list is good! :D
Honestly we were dangerously close in Penacony to that happening it was actually so scary. Especially when Welt got trapped by Sunday that literally sent chills down my spine
Nah. The reason Welt went evil in that bubble universe is because *everyone* he loved died when he was still fairly young. The rest of his life was spent seeking revenge. He’s older, wiser, and is fully on humanity’s side. If Himeko dies, he’d probably fall into a depression but not go sicko mode
Another amazing video!! You're doing an amazing job ♥ If I recall correctly, before Penacony a lot of players were worried about Himeko since she wanted to come with the Trailblazer. Only time will tell if we will get traumatized by HoYoverse with another final lesson. As for Yanqing, after 2.5 quest I'm pretty sure he will get a limited 5* version in the future. He has big potential and there are still a lot of mysteries when it comes to him. I already started saving!! I need to get E6S5... The only question is when it will come. Have a great day/night/any other time of the day or night, everyone reading this!!
Sorta related, and hear me out: Some boss who is unaffected by weakness break or even action delay, and charges their POWERFUL attacks across multiple actions where they do nothing. By nature, they are then equipped with higher sustainability stats. This will counter a lot of the current meta characters like aventurine and obviously Ruan Mei, but would be playground for DoT characters.
Honestly, I think that would be really interesting, and it would be a cool counter towards the Super Break playstyle so people would have to use a different kind of characters, once they want to encourage a different meta I can see them doing that. I would definitely love to see something like that
I think a hnaya boss where she releases a bunch of heliobi or other sealed stuff sounds like a good boos fight or maybe where she sacrifices her sister for the alliance
Honestly that would be quite interesting. Having a lot of heliobi be at her beck and call would be awesome! You could also have something like a Respawnable Xueyi supporting and defending. Like while Xueyi is on field, you cannot damage or target Hanya in anyway so Hanya still feels like a support Harmony (and a summoner) and Xueyi as the DPS and tank. Additionally, have Xueti respawn from time to time to protect her sister whenever she is defeated. As a nod to her mechanical body. In a way, having both of them having each other's backs
Personally I think all the emenators are end game and all of the ipc with their cornerstones are part emenators so theyre all deffinitley major threats theres also the theory that herta might be an emenator so her real body might be crazy strong
I think it is confirmed the real Herta is an Emanator. But we have just her puppets currently as proxies of her. The real Herta honestly has to be incredibly powerful to command to many herta puppets accross the station and many other parts where she attends meetings at. Like that must requiere a lot of focus and power And yeah, while all cornerstones are partially emanators I still feel they have their hierarchy so Diamond and Opal would likely be at the top, in end game, with the rest at major threats I'd wanna say
The letter at the Astral Express made me so freaking sad. Especially when he mentions that Sleepie gets separation anxiety and that he wants us to take care of them and free them into the memory zone. It made me emotional Gallagher, by far, was one of the best characters in all of Star Rail, at least personally
@@ManCarSua i agree with you on that. I myself felt like he did a lot for a bit of screen time, even if Penacony isn’t perfectly written, his character I fell in love in first sight and enjoyed it as the story went on.
I think you should consider it in a situation that they should fight because of some people in the tier list not wanting to fight. It is interesting to see what they are capable of in lore.
True some of these characters would likely not want to fight. But I was mostly thinking of it in the sense of what if Hoyo changed us to another character's POV that isn't the trailblazer. Where the other character would be forced to fight us Honestly the addition of the switching POVs have been the best thing that have done narratively speaking because it opens a lot of possibly fights, cutscenes, interactions
It would honestly be refreshing be to see in a way in all honesty. That way it works as a way to make people try out new teams. Imagine something similar with a boss that heals from DoTs (like a sort of Plague doctor looking character)
Yeah that is fair. I mainly just wanted to do so in one singular take, since I was feeling under the weather. I did a few things on some points on a sticky not that I wanted to say. But not everything, so that was poorly done on my end
"Tingyun can't hurt us, she's dead" the end of 2.5's story laughs in the distance
Lmaoooo true. For now at least. If anything that version of Tingyun can't hurt us
@@ManCarSua true true. Also with Sampo, I totally agree with major threat. I can see him being a noob killer of a boss like Matador from Nocturne, if you don't come with the proper tools to cheese his fight, he'd be a nightmare of an enemy to go up against
The fact that you would compare him to Matador feels so accurate honestly, I would have never thought of it in that way, but now that you say it aloud it 100% feels so accurate for him. Matador with all the "miss" text popping up and making people learn how to use sukunda and sukukaja spells was an experience to be sure
Asta family are super high ranking ipc officials
She can call a fleet of warships whenever she wants practically. She deserves obstacle tier
Yukong might be retired but she was killing borsins just fine in the story quest too
Asta has a lot of power behind in terms of influence and money that is true. I was looking at it on a just fighting basis. If anything she would be in a supporting role like Serval was as a summoner type
As for Yukong, yeah I was a bit too rough on her. I hadn't done the 2.5 quest yet when I did the tier list. I only knew a few bits and pieces from watching some streamer friends that did it because I was sick. Yukong definitely held her own ground vs the Borisin which are to be feared within their own right and are comparable to the freaking Swarm Bugs
While i kinda agree that aventurine is minimum a major threat i just want to remind people that aventurine stone was shattered at the time and i think at the time its power is probably scratching the surface. And even then he managed to hold against himeko, welt, march and trailblazer not only that he managed to push Acheron enough to use her power. So i do think the ipc stoneheart has capabilities to be in endgame
The only reason I didn't put Aventurine in End Game is because creatures like Diamond and Opal exist honestly. If that Myriad Celestia where his cornerstone was restored and he was effectively told "no, you don't get to retire" didn't release I think I wouldn't be overthinking what kind of powers the higher ups at the IPC could have. Also not only did he push Acheron to use her own powers, WELT was about to unleash his own powers too, but Acheron did so first. But I think if Welt did so, there would have been no more Penacony lol
I do hope we can see Aventurine at full power fighting on our side with his Cornerstone no longer damaged. I like that he has been playing a sort of Anti-Hero sort of role within the story. I geniunely adore him
Even before watching the video, i want to say that we NEED a boss version of sampo or sparkle because masked fools are so freaking good (if i remember correctly, sparkle is theorized to be the mask? so maybe de do like sha can copy other bosses and skills and things like that XD)
I will edit after i see the video, but i will say that i think it will be good!!
Sampo WITH his mask would be an absolutely sick boss fight to face off against in all honesty. With him being a super mischevious person and the way he is it would be an interesting boss fight in all honesty. I can see him pulling off a few tricks, summoning decoys or things of the sort. Sparkle as well would be cool as a supportive boss fight, since similarly to how Bronya works already.
OMG having Sparkle copy a supportive boss like Bronya or something similar would be so chaotic or so funny, but also so infuriating and RNG reliant that I think it would be perfect. Like for a turn she just turns into a random boss and does a move against as to Crowd Control us or buff the enemy she supports. I will do another reply later when I see the edit on the comment
@@ManCarSua I watched the video, and i agree with almost every character!
I think sparkle + sampo boss would go fire, like they want to set a "stage" and they have to fool us to do it, so the boss consist in sparkle transforming and creating clones of sampo, so the boss lit can pass from cocolia to aventurine and things like that, so we can torture the filthy casuals **Laughs intensyfies**
Also, the only thing i want to point out at this tierlist, i think herta base form would be at obstacle, like, she has a lot of puppets XD, but, if we count that is sayed on game that she is an erudition emanator... she goes straight to end game 100% (i know her puppets dont have her powers if im right, but when we say herta at least im counting also her real body, even if we havent seen it for now)
I liked the video, keep it up!!
@@ZEUSTHEGOD___ Not only would Sampo and Sparkle be an amazing boss fight in concept, but they would have an absolutely amazing OST I feel. So it would be one that I'd definitely look forward to. With how chaotic they can be, I would 100% be down for how intense that fight can easily be.
I do think Herta, as her non puppet self would easily be end game, though I was speaking in the sense of since we see just the puppets I see her as probably looking at them as disposable. That being said...
New idea imagine a boss fight that is just an actual horde of Herta puppets, just like many different modules with different roles and such. Like a sort of Pure Fiction styled Boss Fight where we get overwhelemed by a wave of them that progressively get stronger. I think that would be sick
I am glad you enjoyed the video!
Galiger would be support to the boss fight that sends an enemy to another realm
Honestly that would be really awesome to see. And just having him be so calm hanging out with a scary looking creature would be amazing
Respectfully, Robin would absolutely be a support. She turns the tide for us in the boss fight with Sunday (and also brings the metaphorical train containing the people of Penacony’s wishes with her). I would NOT want to fuck with any boss fight that has her in it
You know what, that is fair. I feel like I was being a bit too rough on her from when she got trapped by Sunday, but she was a key member in helping us taking care of Sunday and rallying everyone together. You are right on that. And yes, that metaphorical and literal train would be horrifying to face
@@ManCarSua tbh I don’t blame her at all for getting trapped by Sunday when Welt *also* got trapped by Sunday, and we all know how powerful Welt is. Plus, the whole emotional conflict of only just realizing how far Sunday, her own brother, has truly fallen while she was gone. But thanks for the reply, it’s always nice to see a cc engage with the audience:)
@@bookfan1239 True, it would be hard for her to go against her own brother especially when she is trying to help out Penacony and is in a very emotional state, at the moment in the story. And given how even Welt got trapped it was rough indeed
Yunli would arguably be the worst to fight against. The constant counters and the constant healing she would be borderline impossible to kill. Not to mention she’s just overall tanky in general. Insane damage + healing + reduces damage taken? You literally cannot play
Both her and honestly Blade in hindsight too given how Blade would also play similarly and would want you to hit him in order for him to retaliate with a much stronger attack that heals himself. But yeah, Yunli I think would be very frustrating to deal with. It would be interesting to see a stall team set up against her though, focused around Freezes so she cannot counter attack and DoTs to make sure she takes the DMG in a sort of slow burn play style. Infuriating, but effective. Looking at her kit as but in terms of us being the opponent it does feel like it would be unbeatable otherwise
@@ManCarSua that’s another thing though a freeze team wouldn’t be that effective against her since her stance parry mode makes her immune to CC. And knowing how her kit works she would be spamming that out often. I truly feel like yunli and blade would be almost impossible to beat
@@fr3941 that is true. Though she isn't fully immune, she gains more resistances to CC (I have been applied with Strong Reverbation by the Xianzhou Aurumaton Lady before while in Parry State). That being said, her gaining more resistances would be over all very complicated and rough to deal with regardless. They really would be nearly impossible fights yeah
@@ManCarSua the reverberation works differently than other ccs it’s not considered crowd control for some reason. But you can still find a way around it. Yunli mains FAQ explains how it works since it’s stated in her kit she becomes CC immune when in her parry state. But overall this tier list is good
@@fr3941 ooooooh thanks for the information, I was not aware of that! I really appreciate the information. Thanks for educating me on it! Also glad to hear you think the list is good! :D
The ranking for my boi Dan Heng is CORRECT
The way Dan Heng absolutely wrecked Taoran brought me so much joy, I adored him so much and I NEED more Dan Heng content in the future aaaaaaaaa
Okay if welt can't protect himeko this time ,we are cook remember evil welt in bubble world he's solo everyone 💀
The ex-godlike being
Honestly we were dangerously close in Penacony to that happening it was actually so scary. Especially when Welt got trapped by Sunday that literally sent chills down my spine
Nah. The reason Welt went evil in that bubble universe is because *everyone* he loved died when he was still fairly young. The rest of his life was spent seeking revenge. He’s older, wiser, and is fully on humanity’s side. If Himeko dies, he’d probably fall into a depression but not go sicko mode
Another amazing video!!
You're doing an amazing job ♥
If I recall correctly, before Penacony a lot of players were worried about Himeko since she wanted to come with the Trailblazer. Only time will tell if we will get traumatized by HoYoverse with another final lesson.
As for Yanqing, after 2.5 quest I'm pretty sure he will get a limited 5* version in the future. He has big potential and there are still a lot of mysteries when it comes to him.
I already started saving!! I need to get E6S5... The only question is when it will come.
Have a great day/night/any other time of the day or night, everyone reading this!!
You will need 1000+ pulls maximum to guarantee Yanqing E6S5. After pulling for Sunday, I am also going to join you and save.
@@loreyxillumina Good luck to you!!
And I know that ^^ I will still do everything to get him to e6s5
@@rittai__ thanks, now that I think about it, it going to take me 8 months of saving to only get half
@@loreyxillumina All we need is patience
@@rittai__ yep, I saw the leaks and will definitely not pick up the upcoming characters. Hopefully they increase the rewards.
Sorta related, and hear me out:
Some boss who is unaffected by weakness break or even action delay, and charges their POWERFUL attacks across multiple actions where they do nothing. By nature, they are then equipped with higher sustainability stats.
This will counter a lot of the current meta characters like aventurine and obviously Ruan Mei, but would be playground for DoT characters.
Honestly, I think that would be really interesting, and it would be a cool counter towards the Super Break playstyle so people would have to use a different kind of characters, once they want to encourage a different meta I can see them doing that. I would definitely love to see something like that
I think a hnaya boss where she releases a bunch of heliobi or other sealed stuff sounds like a good boos fight or maybe where she sacrifices her sister for the alliance
Honestly that would be quite interesting. Having a lot of heliobi be at her beck and call would be awesome! You could also have something like a Respawnable Xueyi supporting and defending. Like while Xueyi is on field, you cannot damage or target Hanya in anyway so Hanya still feels like a support Harmony (and a summoner) and Xueyi as the DPS and tank.
Additionally, have Xueti respawn from time to time to protect her sister whenever she is defeated. As a nod to her mechanical body. In a way, having both of them having each other's backs
Personally I think all the emenators are end game and all of the ipc with their cornerstones are part emenators so theyre all deffinitley major threats theres also the theory that herta might be an emenator so her real body might be crazy strong
I think it is confirmed the real Herta is an Emanator. But we have just her puppets currently as proxies of her. The real Herta honestly has to be incredibly powerful to command to many herta puppets accross the station and many other parts where she attends meetings at. Like that must requiere a lot of focus and power
And yeah, while all cornerstones are partially emanators I still feel they have their hierarchy so Diamond and Opal would likely be at the top, in end game, with the rest at major threats I'd wanna say
Me being a Gallagher fan, I felt pain when he left and the letter as well :( a lot of hurt
The letter at the Astral Express made me so freaking sad. Especially when he mentions that Sleepie gets separation anxiety and that he wants us to take care of them and free them into the memory zone. It made me emotional
Gallagher, by far, was one of the best characters in all of Star Rail, at least personally
@@ManCarSua i agree with you on that. I myself felt like he did a lot for a bit of screen time, even if Penacony isn’t perfectly written, his character I fell in love in first sight and enjoyed it as the story went on.
I think you should consider it in a situation that they should fight because of some people in the tier list not wanting to fight. It is interesting to see what they are capable of in lore.
True some of these characters would likely not want to fight. But I was mostly thinking of it in the sense of what if Hoyo changed us to another character's POV that isn't the trailblazer. Where the other character would be forced to fight us
Honestly the addition of the switching POVs have been the best thing that have done narratively speaking because it opens a lot of possibly fights, cutscenes, interactions
Near all of the healers and buffers and a decent number of debuffers would end up in support.
Yeah that is true. And I would honestly love to see them in a boss fight scenario supporting another character
A counter based boss would probably be a counter to single attack follow ups.
It would honestly be refreshing be to see in a way in all honesty. That way it works as a way to make people try out new teams. Imagine something similar with a boss that heals from DoTs (like a sort of Plague doctor looking character)
Great video! One question, do u perhaps know the name of the song at 38:45? It sounds very familiar but I dont remember where did I hear it
Thanks! I am glad you enjoyed the video! The music used at that time stamp was Torigoth (Night) from Xenoblade Chronicles 2
@@ManCarSua Thank you so much!!
If it takes you a minute to get a few words out you may want to start over with a script or some dot points or something.
Yeah that is fair. I mainly just wanted to do so in one singular take, since I was feeling under the weather. I did a few things on some points on a sticky not that I wanted to say. But not everything, so that was poorly done on my end