Are YOUR PHOTOS safe? My archive system and how to make sure that YOU NEVER lose any of your photos
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- Опубликовано: 6 авг 2024
- Losing all your photos, what a nightmare! Don't wait until it's too late and make file safety and a good archive a priority. I have met too many people who have waited until it was too late and have lost many of their precious photos or had to go through extensive and expensive hard drive recovery. Don't let it get to this point. Today I want to share how I run my archive and my 3-2-1 Back Up Strategy, which guarantees that I will never lose any of my files!
Do you have a good and secure backup strategy? How do you run your archive? Are you using folders, catalogs like Lightroom, keywords? Let me know in the comments.
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Time Stamps:
0:00 Intro
1:27 How do I run my archive?
5:32 File Safety
8:02 New Solution - NAS
12:56 3-2-1 Back Up Strategy
16:00 Don't wait until it's too late
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Very useful video and very important issue. Thanks Jan for the reminder and for sharing how you successfully solve this issue. I am still in the mode of multiple external drives. It is a struggle!
Glad it was helpful! Yes, I have been for years, but at some point it gets confusing :D
G'day mate, great system, I have to admit I really need to improve my file safety. Thanks for sharing how you do yours. Cheers, Duade
thanks mate. It usually gets overlooked until it's too late and then there's big drama and expensive recovery
Hi Jan !!! The video was useful for me ! Thank you very much !!!
Great to hear :)
Great explanation, thank you very much!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thanks a lot, Sir
Great info
Glad you liked it
You are doing it right, and very sensibly. I do a completely different kind of photography, but your well-articulated system and workflow discipline is crazy close to what I do - in principle at least. I never rely on anything that I don’t have 100% control over. Basically, like you - always a 3x redundancy system whether in the field or in the office. The 3 parts are 2x 4TB ext.SSDs and 1 larger SSD that is always backing up the working hard drive an SSD on my laptop in the field and my desktop computer in the studio at home, Note this 3x redundancy system doesn’t include the computer drive(s), the SD cards, the Cloud or Dropbox which I use but don’t ever as an archive, just working files that I use for work or reference in current projects. Like you, the 2 SSDs keep every RAW, JPG, and video files taken without exception, downloaded as the very 1st task upon return from the field. To be disciplined about this - one MUST keep it easy and absolutely the same EVERY DAY or SHOOT. It took me awhile of overthinking it, and doing overly complicated file structures. That’s a mistake, and will almost certainly cause you to be inconsistent and then frustrated when you lose or can’t find work and redo it all a different way which is a disaster waiting to happen…. I use a simple folder system with the top being a 4-digit YEAR / then (year.month.day)_(a simple description of where the shoot was). If this repeats, just add a number to the description NOT the files. Then the next sub folder is simply the unique number of the SD card(s). The descending, simply just a RAW folder and JPG folder. That’s it. EXAMPLE: 2021>21.08.07>SL2S.SD-2.2>RAW files>(all the raw files from that day). This system is easily automated, and backed up. Any further descriptions are handled as “smart folder” tied to metadata etc, and never deviate. The physical referenced files are always here and never change. SD cards are retired and never reused, as another fail safe. I use Capture One 21.(current) as my only editing and referenced data management tool, and rarely use Photoshop except to print locally. I have never used, and never will, use Lightroom - for many reasons, but I’ll just say I don’t use referenced single databases, as “catalogs” forces this DAM system… In C1 I only use “Sessions” which physically imports and COPIES the files you wish to keep and edit from that point forward. Inside C1, each SESSION is set up almost exactly like the import SSD folders and files - any personal system one has, like yours being birds and their taxonomy - this can be highly personalized to ones work and still keep this substantially the same system, just as simple and repeatable as possible. Inside C1 I can create Smart Albums and Collections that are all “virtual Favorites” and that’s how each Session can be edited to its particular structure for that shoot that NEVER changes and is non-destructive to the original file import and Session import into C1. Once in the office, the desktop is set up exactly the same way - and kept the same way backed up to a NAS with double redundancy of RAID5 For each desktop SSD (essentially 4 SSDs - 2 internal and 2 external). I then do exactly as you do and simply rotate a big set of hard drives in 2 offsite location + 1 here on site but not in the office. Always 3+ redundancy, but remember the Field SSDs are not the Office Desktop SSDs and nit the NAS. The original SD cards are always retired to a fireproof safe. I pay for the most stable and dependable media, stuff that NEVER failed me, and I’m still uptight about it… Hoodman STEEL SDs, SandiskPRO 4TB SSDs (Field and office backups ) and OWC 4TB+16TB inyternal SSDs in my Mac Pro, mirrored to OWC 4TB+16TB Ext. SSDs that are always doing RAID5 mirrors to the 20TB NAS (that’s the effective SSDs space, that is decreased by the RAID5 for security an is hot swappable.). That’s it!!! It sounds harder than it is. The hardest part is use being absolutely consistent and never vary on a whim or “I’ll deal with it later”. This is really almost the same concept you describe Ive worked out over a few years. It can be easy, and DONT OVERTHINK IT! Take care mate, keep up he good work!
Thanks for the awesome comment. Finding a good workflow for this isn't easy and sometimes I get a bit lazy with updates.
So you are buying a lot of SD cards?
I use Mylio to make sure all my photos are backed up on multiple computers and drives. I still struggle with organization, though. Love your videos!
Thanks for sharing! :)
I use Picasa and apple photos, and generally store the pictures on an external hard drive....! Informative video Jan sir 🙏
Thanks for sharing
How funny, today I finally made the decision to upgrade my back up system to a 12TB raided (2x6tb) external drive. I've been shuffling files with a couple of 2TB and a 3Tb external but quickly realising I'm in need of something more substantial. Looked at NAS but a little pricey, but something for the future. I have a very simple cataloguing system in Lightroom. If I was doing marine life I'd have an idea of using your method, but being new to birds I have no idea on their families, genus and species in that field and in my later years do not wish to start to learn that. I usually use folders to save by location, common name and date. I can then use a Lightroom catalogue search of name to find a bird I'm after. Or use the location. Good presentation Jan. I probably need an offsite copy as well, but don't have that luxury. I'm also not confident in Cloud storage either.
Ha! That is funny. Yes, at some point it get's just too hard with these. Agree, NAS is very handy, but pricy.
Yes, I would recommend an off-site copy
Glad you enjoyed the video.
I use a folder system as well.
places visited followed by month and year as sub-folders.
for the back-up, 100% is in one copy of portable HDDs. the best of them ~30% will be in 2 more copies.
But my takeaway from your video is that I have to store the 3rd copy in an off-shore location.
nice video.
Thanks
That would make it a much more fail safe system
Jan, I've been using exact the same system of backing up my files for over ten years now, very happy that I did
Only, I use other brands, but that doesn't matter
My third back up drives are sitting in the vault of the bank
Great to hear you are making sure files are safe!
I use the 3-2-1 system in a similar fashion as you do, however my use of the SSD in my desktop computer is only transitory. My main work drive for my media is a RAID0, Thunderbolt 3, 2-drive 20Tb dock, which gives me 450-500Mb/s access speed, so I can comfortably edit photos and video directly from that drive. My weekly backup is a set of 3 large USB3 external drives - I have 2 onsite and 1 offsite, which gives me the benefit of being able to restore from 1-2 weeks ago without having to go to my offsite storage to retrieve drives. I also make an annual archive of my work by backing up to a large external drive, which are only used once and then sit in a filing cabinet, hopefully to never be looked at again unless disaster strikes! I'm using ACDSee for managing my photos and video, which is a good alternative to Lightroom, since they offer the user a choice of a one-time license or subscription (same features either way). Although ACDSee uses a catalogue, I only use it for convenience. All the metadata I need for searching is stored within the media file itself, a thumbnail file, or in sidecar files, which gives me the freedom from being bound to one product's cataloging system. I learned this the hard way when I migrated from Lightroom a couple of years ago!
Sounds like a great set up!
First, thanks for the video. Hated Lightroom's DAM so I switched to Luminar Ai (and switched to PC from Mac after 25+ years). I've been using a dedicated WD external drive (2T) and I do a monthly manual back-up of images from the download & picture folder on my PC and my 'master image folder' that contains all my shots. I'm not a professional photographer and I don't have nearly the amount of images that you have. Before switching to PC I had BackBlaze operating on my old MAC.
Thanks for sharing!
Thanks for the great video Jan. I've been hoping you would make a video like this for a while. I have two questions: Do you have a way to know where you took a particular photo? and, what happens when you capture more than one species? Thanks!
Yes, that part is in my head, I can tell you for every image where I took it. Otherwise that's not taken into account in my list.
If there are a lot of species, I often just leave the image in the family folder, rather than a species folder.
Good explanation of your file workflow Jan - it is critical that people get a handle on their storage and backup before they collect too many files or have a disaster and lose everything. I've worked in the IT industry for over 20 years and have heard lots of bad luck stories when that single disk fails. We are in danger of losing a whole generation's worth of memories as nobody prints much any more, and most people don't think about when that one hard drive inevitably fails, and how many times have I heard someone say they just keep all their personal photos on their phone or a single memory card in their camera.
BTW - you said you didn't want to use a cloud-based backup system due to your Internet connection speed and uncertainty about having a cloud provider holding your data. I can recommend the Crashplan service which I have used for several years. Your AsusStor NAS (incidentally it's pronounced "Asoos Store" as it is build by the Asus computer company) can run the Crashplan app, so you can configure it to automatically back up selected folders to the cloud in the background as you store photos on the NAS. You can also create local backup archives to external drives which I do, rotating two drives to my work address. On the data security point, I chose Crashplan as they were one of the few that while they can manage your data, they cannot actually access files within the archive as only you have the security key required for file-level access/restore. And on the issue of initial transfer to the cloud backup provider, they offer a service where you can ship a populated drive to them for initial backup seeding - same can be done for disaster recover restore (both at a price of course). I have no affiliation with Crashplan, but after a lot of research it proved to be the best option for me considering these criteria and has worked flawlessly for several years.
Enjoying your channel and your friend Duade Paton's - lots of great tips and techniques for bird photography which is my main passion. I will make myself a bucket stand for custom perches in the near future, I really do like the look of the images you get from being able to select your background (instead of my usual method of chasing birds around 10,000 acres of bushland). Let me know if you would like any more info about Crashplan.
Happy birding!
Hehe, I watched a few videos to see how to pronounce it. Everyone said it differently.
Crashplan sounds like an interesting tool for sure.
Thanks for sharing your insights
Yes, using perches and set ups, is a totally different way of doing things, but can be very rewarding and fun to do
@@jan_wegener No worries, your English is much better than my German! Really inspired by your setup and work, striving to improve my work to that standard. Great videos too, very insightful and you speak to camera so naturally and explain things very well.
@@mickmckean7378 Thank you! It's all still a work in progress, but it starts to feel more natural.
Great video on an important topic. When we started doing serious 4K video work, we really had to upgrade. We use a folder structure organized by year and project. We are using a G-Technology SSD bay. 32 TB (4x8TB SSDs). We have 2 additional bays and one is off site. These units are expensive but the SSDs are super fast and should be very reliable (no moving parts). We have each one set up with RAID. Also have a cloud backup (Backblaze) but understand your concerns there. It took weeks to get our files uploaded (out internet speeds are a bit higher here). By the way, looking a little casual here! Where’s the black shirt? Lol just joking. You do a great job with this channel and we appreciate the excellent content.
Thanks David! Being stuck in lockdown makes it hard to keep videos coming. Hehe, thought I go half corporate for this one :D This is a very important topic, as you say. I looked at SSD, but they're just not large enough for me atm and the price would be quite high, too. Would be an amazing set up, tho!
Are you having more than a 1Gbe network?
Great video. I have been using Adobe cloud for storage. At over 2TB of storage it is very slow to upload. Sometimes wait days to see images on cloud. I am going to switch to NAS system. May say costs as well
Yes, I have like 20TB, so cloud isn't a great option. I really like the NAS
I had been convinced online storage was not practical but gave it another try during all this isolation and distancing time. I've worked it into my backup.
14TB master + SSD working drive (lightroom)
2 rotating 14TB backup drives with an offsite location (same as you)
14TB uploaded to Backblaze (took about 2 months)
= 4 copies of all raw and edits
Exports go to a dropbox folder to be accessible across devices.
sounds like a good system!
I use Lightroom cloud exclusively, with Raw files sorted into folders by common name. I save my edited jpegs in a seperate folder tagged with their common names as well. Of course if I get to a stage where I reach my cloud limit (or more precisely cloud budget) I would need to look at a system like yours.
Interesting, thanks for sharing
Another great video Jan! I am wondering if when you move your edited photos to the NAS do you do it manually or is it automated? Thanks! Steve
I use Beyond Compare to Sync folders
Jan, thanks for the video, you have some good suggestions there. I was especially interested in the taxonomic family tree structure you used to store your bird photos. Is there someplace where one can download a template directory of birds so that images can be dropped into folders like you suggested? And what do you do when ornithologists change the family tree around?
Hi,
yes you can get it here
www.worldbirdnames.org/new/
I don't incorporate all changes, most birds that get switched around I have not photographed anyways, but I might change it, if it affects a species directly
I sort my folders by year, then location/month, and then i rename the files into the species name. I might start to backup my photos online soon :) And the Asustor backup is still too expensive for me 😬
I might have to rob another bank ;)
another bank? :D
Good topic. My wife and I use a double-redundant external file storage system. We have a main directory called "pix" on each of our computers. Under the "pix" directory, we have directories for each year (i.e. "2019", "2020", etc.). Within each year directory, we create individual directories for our photo shoots, using the date of the photo shoot and adding a description of the shoot (i.e. "20190710_grays_lake", "20200921_palisades_fall_colors", etc.). It's kind of nice to have a chronology of our activities. Sometimes our photo shoots don't have birds in them (very rarely, but sometimes). Within the photo shoot directories, we have directories for "cr2", "jpg", and "edits". We each do backups to our individual external 2TB USB drives immediately after doing our Lightroom edit sessions but we don't save the Lightroom structure. After the edit session, we export to high resolution .jpgs and only save the exports. These edits are usually the ones we post and share with friends. We also both do weekly backups to another external USB drive and store it in a fire-proof safe. We don't use the cloud at all. I just recently had a hard disk crash on my main computer. While I did have the loss of a few programs I was working on, none of our photos we lost.
Hi Dave, sounds like a good system and it has proven to protect your images!
Hi Jan, for now I use lightroom mobile to download my images on my computer. These sync automatically in the lightroom cloud, so they are safe should anything happen with my hard drives. With the adobe apps they can be easily accessed through my phone or tablet too. Your NAS setup looks really nice, and is something I will definitely consider for the future.
awesome! Many interesting way to run things
Nice! Interesting how you use the File Structure itself as your "Keyword Catalog". I shoot so many topics I don't have them keyword catalogued by File Structure, they are just by year>month (Raw and JPG originals)>modified(RAW files using Affinity Photo)>Print Ready(300 DPI Jpegs). I may try to figure out how to save them by files structure in a way that identifies the content as you do, keeping year/month although that may not be super critical (except where I had events that must have a catalogue by date).
I currently have 3 copies of everything: 1 copy on my Mac, 1 copy mirrored on my iPad through a bi-directional sync with my Mac using FileBrowser Pro app, and 1 copy on Google Cloud which instantly bi-directional syncs with my Mac.
So:
Any changes I make on my Mac get automatically synched to Google Drive. And, on demand to my iPad.
Any changes on Google Drive get synched with my Mac.
Any changes on my iPad get synced on Demand with my Mac (and then automatically to Google Drive).
If Mac dies (and corrupts Google Drive), I have a copy on my iPad.
If Google Drive dies (and corrupts my Mac), I have a copy on my iPad.
If iPad dies (it won't corrupt Mac or Google Drive because it is only synced on demand), I have a copy on my Mac and on Google Drive.
Is this Asustos still your NAS solution? I am rapidly needing more space than on my Mac and iPad. So, I am thinking the external drives and NAS solution next and will likely implement this year...
Thanks for sharing!
Super video! I wish there was a way to give TWO thumbs up. Most of the year, I download my files to my desktop, then back them up to an external drive, weekly, at least. But.....the computer and the external drive are within a few feet of each other. I have access to an offsite location, but I'm not at all consistent in making the duplicate backup to go offsite. I know better, but my followup is lacking.
My other issue is that I spend fours months of the year at another location. (That part is good, not a problem.) When there, I use a laptop, which I back up frequently to an external drive. I also have the "home" backup drive with me for easy access. My problem is that, although I don't use Lightroom for cataloging, I do use it for adjusting RAW files. When I modify "summer" files in Lightroom, on the laptop, then transfer them to the home desktop computer, all of my Lightroom catalog references are toast. Is there a straightforward way to keep continuity between my two computers other than only using external drives as my active Lightroom storage?
Thanks again for your most excellent videos. /Another Bob
Hi Bob,
glad you liked it. Yes this stuff can be tricky, but it's important.
I am sure there is a way to import Lightroom files. I know there's also the option to save all changes in sidecart files, rather than in the catalogue. That way you should be abble to transfer the files and edits
Really useful video - I'm still looking at my options for a NAS. How are you finding the Asustor ADM software in practice - and planning ahead, (for the R5 purchase) have you tried setting up FTP on it to upload from a camera? Nascompares, and span.com on RUclips give great info, but not quite from a photographer's perspective.
I haven't used it too much yet, and with the lockdown I haven't really been anywhere either. So I mainly used it just to backup files. Overall what I have done with it was really nice to use and easy to get going.
At this stage I only have about 50Gb of photos. I am ruthless with my files though. I use Faststone image viewer to identify the best, store them on a 500Gb external hard drive, (maybe only 30-40 from each shoot) then delete the rest. I have several folders starting with RAW and the bird species under those. I will select an image to process as a JPG and store it in a top level folder by date and bird species. I'll also store a separate watermarked version. On a regular basis, say fortnightly, I will backup the external hard drive to my computer internal drive. My external drive is also automatically backed up to Google Drive whenever I make any file change, so I have a simple cloud storage solution. I live in a bush fire prone zone, so if I ever have to evacuate (like I did last summer!), I just grab my external hard drive and make a dash. My portfolio is at: 500px.com/rogerfance/galleries/birds Cheers Rog
Sounds good! I will have a look at your 500px
Light room catalogue system every time. I used to use a folder system but it became too cumbersome. One catalog in LR with a good keyword hierarchy really simplifies image management. I have set up a hierarchical system of keywords that basically mirrors your folder system. I select all the images of the same species from each shoot, start typing in the base name eg Blue Tit and LR then adds all the extras, Latin name, family, species etc. I can also add places where the image was taken and activity such as feeding, flying, display etc.
All that info is stored with each image and I only ever need one master file as all other file types (tiffs, jpegs etc) are only created on export when required.
Currently I have my LR cat on my computer hard drive and a copy on an external hard drive. I also have one set of master files on my computer hard drive and a second copy on another external drive.
I am about to replace my outdated computer and will be looking to have a further off site backup for my master files.
Sounds like a good system. How big is your LR catalog?
Thanks for sharing
@@jan_wegener Hello Jan, my catalogue is around 30,000 images (most of which are crap, I'm not a professional) despite having binned several thousand recently. My old transparencies are stored in a folder style system within hanging sheets and as a newbie to computers I continued to use that system right until I bought my first LR software.
How liberating that was! Providing you transfer the folder hierarchy into the keyword structure it is so speedy, efficient and space saving that for me it's a no brainer. No need for different file types or physically having to go through folders to get to images... Simply bang in a simple keyword search and hey presto, it's all there in seconds.
I cannot recommend it highly enough.
Well you could do synchronized 2 NAS. 1 for work on raid 6 or 10, and second offsite on raid 5 for buckup they would cheked on night and cold storage simple hdds.
interesting idea! Thanks
@@jan_wegener We using such setup for home. For work and low cost we using refurbushed old servers and storage servers, but this setup not user friendly.
I am using FreeNAS (freenas.org) with RAID 5 (ZFS) volumes. On one server I have a RAID6 ZFS volume. I have several FreeNAS servers, and I copy crucial data to more than one of them. Offsite storage needs attention. I highly recommend FreeNAS - it uses FreeBSD and can be run on almost any standard PC. I have gone through the exercise of recovering from a hard drive failure, and the system works well. Also, I keep some of my FreeNAS servers powered down except when I am transferring files, just in case ransomware gets through my firewall.
That's sounds great! Thanks for sharing
Jan... helpful video--thanks !! For my images, I save them by location i.e. State > City > Date or Still Life > Flowers > Flower Name. I hated Lightroom's DAM and quit Adobe all together. I find Luminar 4 works better for me. I have a 10-year old iMAC that I will have to replace (sooner than later)... I'll be going over to the dark side (Windows 10). But until then, I'm using an (1) external drive for storage for all my images and BACKBLAZE as off-site cloud back-up. Any good or bad issues with BACKBLAZE?
Glad you enjoyed it. Haven't' looked into cloud backups due to my internet, so can't really comment on it, sorry.
Jan, I use Lightroom and key words. I recently worked my way through 50,000 images and deleted 13,000 (what was I thinking when I kept them for so long?) It seems every time a make a backup on an external drive I lose the connection with lightroom and when I switch computers it takes forever to restore to the catalog. Can lightroom back up to a drive and remember where those images went? I approve of your scientific approach to storage and cataloging.
I am not entirely sure. That's always a problem with programs that rely on files being in a certain location. I don't know if LR can, but some programs have a "search" function that let them relink the images
Jan this is a great video - thank you. Does this unit allow 8k images and video storage and transfer - have you experienced any problems with this? Just want to confirm it does as I can't find confirmation online that it claims 4k only - but 8K is so new at this point. From watching your video I think the unit does not allow editing on it so this has to be done on your PC?? Is that right? Also when you buy it do you have to also buy the discs on top of that or does the unit come with them? I've never had a NAS so I have many questions before taking the plunge . I have PILES of hard drives but all small files and documents. I don't want to be on the cloud. I have looked at Synology and QNAP, went down a rabbit hole, got lost in technobabble and gave up!!! Trying again.
Yes, you have to buy the disks on top of the NAS. I am not sure about 8k either. I usually have my files on my hard drives on my PC, where I edit them. But I also directly open files on the NAS and work on them. It works well, but is a bit slower when saving.
@@jan_wegener Thanks Jan.
It's all related to bird photography. How about mixing with your daily life? Birds, street photos, birthday parties etc.
well, this channel is kinda all about the birds :D
I have a folder for every year, and inside those I have one for every month. I have two hard drives with a copy of everything, and a third portable drive. I would love to have an off site copy, but I don’t have any other sites. I might of course rent a bank box, but I haven’t gone that far yet. I’ve been considering a cloud solution, but I don’t quite like the idea. So my system is very far from perfect - just like most of my pictures.
At least you have out some thought into it, that's better than most!
The Nas fail with me before it had a damaged in thr bord , then i can’t to deal with my all 5 HDD , I returned for old types,(12 TB HDD )from WD , then I purchase a nas agin to be just one more option
That's exactly why it's important to have multiple backups
Like you, I use two external hard disks to back up all my desktop drives (using GoodSync synchronization).
I make a daily backup to one of the hard disks and switch it at an offsite location approximately every two weeks. When returning home with the other hard disk this is now being updated and backed up daily until the next swap.
Thus, I always have my files on the desktop and a daily updated copy on an external hard disk at home besides the offsite copy with almost all files.
However, why are you using the NAS as well? What should be the purpose for me also to invest in a NAS at least from a backup perspective?
Regards Steen
For me, I wanted a second full backup that is accessible from anywhere and has some redundancy. You don't necessarily need a NAS, but it makes your life a lot easier and can be expanded a lot more if need be.
You set up sounds pretty good. I guess my systems is similar to yours, except that I use my NAS as a main second hub and then have a set of rotating hard drives.
@@jan_wegener Thanks for your reply.
Yes, my set up seems very similar to yours except for the NAS. I only have about 2 TB files and don’t need online access for the time being. However, I may go for your fine solution sometime in the future. Thanks for sharing … ; - )
Regards Steen
I back up to a 6tb HDD, they backup to another 6 tb HDD then that gets backed up to the cloud. So 3-2-1. 3 copies, 2 different media, 1 copy off site. It’s pretty much automated once I copy the files to the first HDD
sounds like you're on top of it! Great work
I’m fortunate in two respects. 1. I work in IT so understand how important backups. 2. I know how to set up a good backup routine. I would add that because it is mostly automated I don’t fully trust it and routinely check to make sure the backups are happening. No room for complacency when dealing with backups
@@JustANobody9757 I am the same, I like to check over manually.
holy crap, that's a lot of storage.
1-2-3 GR8 system Jan.
Can you list the detail specs of all the drives ?
Also do you have a url for the bird list as I was unable to find on Google.
I am using
4x WD Red PRO 14TB in the NAS
4x WD My Book 14TB for rotating off site backup
2x 10 TB Seagate Barracuda in my PC
and 2x m.2 SSD
and 2x normal SSD, all Samsung EVO in my PC
Bird List
www.worldbirdnames.org/new/
@@jan_wegener Many thanks Jan.
I now have to blend/upgrade my new pre Xmas DIY PC.
Present Drives setup.is
Samsung SSD 970 EVO plus 250GB
Samsung SSD 860 EVO 500GB
Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB
2x WD My Book 8TB (one at home the other off site.)
I dont have as many images as you (20k).
That NAS set up will save a lot of time with backups etc.
Shopping list
2x WD RED 4TB in my PC
4x WD RED PRO 4TB in the NAS.
All in LR cat but a pain to up keep. Swapped to ON1 and have to redo all. Next winter !
@@unozig Sounds good! What will you do on the 1Tb SSD?
unozig, here is another list for birds I found today. I haven't loaded it yet. thejaffes.org/content/structured-keywords-lightroom
What happens in the future when the NAS hardware crashes and can not be repaired or replaced. Can you still use the drives without the NAS hardware?
You can definitely still use the drives, but might have to set them up again. That's why I also use other drives than just the NAS, to be protected from any one system failing
WIth FreeNAS, I can transfer the drives to another PC and import the volume. I use FreeNAS because I can repurpose older PCs as NAS servers, no special hardware required.
If you check the hard drive sales, you can get storage for around $25/Tb. I generally use 8 drives in a RAID5 set, with ZFS file system.
Which do you prefer Topaz or DXO
DXO Pure RAw
your ssd hard drives are built into your computer or they are external hard drives.
To be honest, I don't quite understand why you need a second SSD to process the photos, you can use the first one.
Its being used as a scratch disc where the disc is kept empty apart from the file that's being worked. Ensures maximum speed when editing.
It speeds up the whole process, especially when editing larger files in Photoshop.
Correct, I use a scratch disk for Photoshop, plus a 2x working disks for the larger files, speeds up the process a lot.
Not a rich guy !!!! I don't have fancy expensive storage systems at different locations. I guess that if you are a professional photographer that would make a big difference. For me, all of my photos are numbered sequentially with the file name being _escriptive. A simple DOS batch file renames the default RAW filenames to my sequential system. For example: IMG_261115 Bald Eagle_Boardman Lake recently. File names imported into EXCEL to make a spreadsheet if I need or want it. Two copies of image files on external drives, with a third copy of edited filed on DVD.
Yes, price is definitely an issue, but as you say, as a pro it makes sense. Nice way of working the file names.
Once I’ve taken more than 5 keepers I will think about back up 😂
hehe, better to start early than too late ;)
Where are the subtitles?
hmmm, might still be processing. It says in the studio that they're there.
They’re there for me
It sounds like you are not using RAID5.
BTW it sounds like you have copies. Backup requires a system that keep track of versions. E.g the version of the file you worked on on the 17th of May.
I use a local drive and Google Drive with no local client. All access through the web interface.
No, I use Raid 10. I guess you are correct, better terminology.
1+0 Is mirroring and striping.
One thing to watch out for is using drives from the same batch in a raid set. The idea is that drives from the same batch are likely to fail at the same time.
@@tarjei99 yes, good point!
Lastly (I hope), it is important to differentiate between bits and bytes on network connections. If you say bytes instead of bits, it may sound faster than it really is.
1 megabyte is 8 megabits.
When I startet to upload my memory cards to Google drive, it took me about a week for a 4GB card. I stayed with 4 GB cards for a long time since I could burn a DVD from each in the field.
Then my ISP upgraded the network speed and I was down to 3 days. Then it was 36 hours with a 16GB card and suddenly I was down to 12 hours.
Now, I don't know how long it takes since I'm on fiber broadband and I don't pay attention to download times any more.
So much for the last comment (sigh).
I should have mentioned Side Loading of a backup when you become a customer of a reputable backup company.
You create a local backup to a disk or several disks which you send to the vendor to start the backup.
After that initial upload through disk, you use the backup client to either do icremental or differential backups.
Each time you do a full backup, you do a Side Load.
Incremental = backup based on all previous backups including incremental and differential. This will use a lot of space if you backup a lot of stuff you change often. Uses little network bandwidth.
Differential = backup changes after a specific backup (usually full backup). Uses less space if there is a lot of changes. Uses more network bandwidth.