This scene was one of the best of the UBW route, the dialogues between Shirou and the hero EMIYA are quite deep, I loved listening to Last Stardust again.
Fun Fact: Although Archer/Shirou say that their UBW (Reality Marble) "cannot win against opponent who has mastered one", that's only true if he chooses the tactic of mimicing. The official Type Moon settings material describes Archer's UBW as "one form of ultimate bladeswork" that rival some of the greatest heroic spirits and their Noble Phantasms. Given his experience (i.e., growing up as Shirou on his life journeey to become champion of justice + experience afteer beccoming heroic spirit), Archer has lot of experience in and has become adept at fighting against opponents more powerful than himself. His strength is in utilizing the various tactics available to him with projections/UBW, rather than simple mimicing. His ability to "trace" the opponent's weapon and immediately understand the opponent's identity, Noble Phantasm, fighting style, and life history allows him to choose the most optimal tactics and weapons (i.e., weakness) against anyone. Even Berserker Hercules paid respect to Archer by saying (upon gaining some rationality back) that he "wished they had fought when he (Hercules) had rationality (i.e., no berserk)" when Archer killed Berserker six times (without targeting the master, like Gil!) in S/N route. Lancer Cu describes Archer as "unexpectedly skillful and tactical", as he is able to fight at same level against opponents that have higher status. Saber describes Archer's swordskills as "refined to perfection through devotion (i.e., not by talent)." Above context also serves as proof that Archer was not going all-out on Shirou, because his purpose was not just to kill Shirou physically but force Shirou to give up on his ideals and beliefs. (Spoiler) He also defeats Saber in Hollow/Ataraxia, although with some handicap.
@@Dovahkiin914 Shirou doesn't yet have that experience to fully leverage UBW's potential (in UBW route), so mimicing is the only tactics available to him at this point. So from Shirou's perspective, it's true that he "cant beat any other servants" at this point. But UBW itself is indeed powerful noble phantasm!
He only beat saber because of shirou holding her back, otherwise it would’ve been a wrap. But yeah, emiya gets a bad wrap because most of his fights are against his best counter, Cu.
Man Cu is such a massive counter to Emiya. His protection from arrows counters blade spamming and his own arrows, he is much faster than Emiya, his battle continuation will keep him fighting even if Emiya landed something lethal, and his disengage skill will let him run away if he ever senses he's in any true danger. Also, his NP Gae Bolg is absurdly broken, only handicaped by Cu's horrible luck. But who knows it might work on Emiya, since both have E ranked luck. It'll be a battle between two horrible lucks, and if Cu wins the battle is over. Plus with a good master, Cu can spam it up to 7 times in a row. It's crazy. Cu is one of Emiya's best counters, both ability wise and personality wise since they are opposites in life and practice.
For those who aren't really deep into the lore this was the battle of will, a test by Archer to see how strong Shirou resolution to fight for his unrealistic ideal to save everyone. He doesn't want Shirou to endure infinite pain he's about to have, if he can't even beat his servant self how he can save thousands or even million of live without losing once. Archer forgot 1 thing, his battle spirit was long forgotten which Shirou remind him of. It his duty to save others even he can't save himself because he want to return the sole purpose of him the only surviving victim of the fuyuki fire, he's reason was to help every single person he met.
I see it differently. Archer really wanted to kill Shirou, not just "test" him. His argument was, that "because end of our journey was not what we desired for, the journey itself has no value. You should just die, because your future path has no meaning. If you die, I will disappear too and our mistake will be fixed. " Shirous counter argument was "I agree we failed in the end. However, even if the end result wasn't what we wished for, our journey still had value itself. You lived as you thought you should and I will live as I thought I should. There is nothing wrong in that. Even if we couldn't make our dream true, we used our life to work towards that goal. Our dream was not fulfilled in the end, but neither was it wrong to live by that dream." What Archer forgot wasn't his battle spirit. It was, that Archer thought his dream was just copied from person who saved him, because he as Shirou admired Kiritsugu Emiya. That it wasn't his own dream and he didn't even have own dream, because he just try to make another person dream true. Shirou remind him that he didn't just copy dream of man who save him. He genuinely believe that putting others before yourself is beautiful dream and he should work toward it to become "hero of justice" even if he couldn't become one in the end. It was his own wish that put him to his journey, not that he have to pay back to Kiritsugu Emiya. In the end Archer let Shirou put knife to him, because he understood that it was his own dream. He could kill Shirou, but he could never break his spirit. He could never make him let go of his dream, because he has walked that same path. In the end, it wasn't his dream that was foolish, and he didn't want to strike his younger version down just because he believed what Archer himself had always believed.
NO MATTER WHAT ANYONE SAYS, this is what story telling is all about. It cements Shirou Emiya as my favorite hero in fiction. To battle his literal future self that lost to despair only to reignite the hope he had lost.
for real, that annoyed me the most. There's a dude who dropped the series because "Shirou's plot armor against Archer is the dumbest thing in anime" and never have I ever clicked a dislike button so fast in my life
For those wondering, this was never a battle of strength, it was of will. Two conflicting ideals trying to prove itself to the other. If Archer wanted to, he could ve just ended it, but that wasnt the point. His defeat at the end was him remembering that scene w Kiritsugu n realizing what he forgot, his old ideal.
Especially when it's something so different from the rest of the OST. When Last Stardust started playing, it cemented the scene to be the peak of UBW story and considering that UBW focuses on Shirou's and Archer's connection, it makes sense
If Gilgamesh were to go into the past and remind his past self to change , they both would be laughing together with Future Gilgamesh using his EA because he can't stand his own arrogance.
This scene was peak in the VN and even more peak in the anime. While the UBW VN didn't show Archer whipping out his reality marble, it's nice that the anime opted for this direction because it is better thematically when you think about it.
i don't agree, archer had low mana to create a marble which was not needed for him to beat shirou in the first place, also it was a clash of ideals which were always depicted in simpler fights in VN like kirei vs shirou fist fighting, archer and shirou swinging swords
@@imfedup259 Yeah but considering how this medium caters to the greater audience who enjoy action mixed in with story telling, having to add this was a way to pander to the greater populous that don't know about Fate and just wanted some good endgame action whilst summing up what the anime was adapting from the VN
I hate people who dont get this route and the fight archer and shirou had its basically a battle of ideals not a battle to the death for now... Archer wanted to destroy shirou emiya's ideal to make him realize his dream is nothing but fantasy which of course Shirou Emiya denies it and fights back but he slowly accepted the fact archer was right about his ideals but thankfully he remembers that even if his ideals are borrowed the ideal of saving everyone you could see is still beautiful and is not wrong.... Ive got to say UBW Shirou would be the best Shirou who developed that is on par with Heavens Feel Shirou and Miyuverse Shirou so yeah
It still bothers me that Saber is just there with no major role or anything here in UBW. Feels like she's just there so Shirou can be called a master. Or maybe it's just me. I wonder what happened to Sakura in UBW. Is she abused by Shinji too? Is Zouken still inside her? etc. Poor girl.
@@小鳥遊-g2q No, Its not strange bcuz they are the same person same power same identity only just different time and at start of the battle Archer said trace on like Shirou At the end of the anime you can see Shirou walk the same path like Archer
@@imcat1236 No,they have little different mental image world each other in UBW.You're able to understand it comparing Shirou's one and Archer's one in anime.also,Shirou doesn't walk the same path as long as Rin is by Shirou's side, and Saber route and Sakura route also don't become the Archer.Author(Nasu Kinoko) is saying
I think it's intentional. Shirou says it in Japanese as that's his mother language, Archer estranged himself so much from Shirou that he changed the chant for his Reality Marble, his literal expression of his soul, so that he uses a language diffrent from his mother tounge. His estrangment can be seen by how he calls himself. He is either called Archer or EMIYA. He is never called Shirou.
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This scene was one of the best of the UBW route, the dialogues between Shirou and the hero EMIYA are quite deep, I loved listening to Last Stardust again.
Ctm,otra vez con la omnipresencia
Ever heard Amalee'a version?
youre a f*cking legend. i needed the name of the song
Fun Fact: Although Archer/Shirou say that their UBW (Reality Marble) "cannot win against opponent who has mastered one", that's only true if he chooses the tactic of mimicing. The official Type Moon settings material describes Archer's UBW as "one form of ultimate bladeswork" that rival some of the greatest heroic spirits and their Noble Phantasms.
Given his experience (i.e., growing up as Shirou on his life journeey to become champion of justice + experience afteer beccoming heroic spirit), Archer has lot of experience in and has become adept at fighting against opponents more powerful than himself. His strength is in utilizing the various tactics available to him with projections/UBW, rather than simple mimicing. His ability to "trace" the opponent's weapon and immediately understand the opponent's identity, Noble Phantasm, fighting style, and life history allows him to choose the most optimal tactics and weapons (i.e., weakness) against anyone.
Even Berserker Hercules paid respect to Archer by saying (upon gaining some rationality back) that he "wished they had fought when he (Hercules) had rationality (i.e., no berserk)" when Archer killed Berserker six times (without targeting the master, like Gil!) in S/N route. Lancer Cu describes Archer as "unexpectedly skillful and tactical", as he is able to fight at same level against opponents that have higher status. Saber describes Archer's swordskills as "refined to perfection through devotion (i.e., not by talent)."
Above context also serves as proof that Archer was not going all-out on Shirou, because his purpose was not just to kill Shirou physically but force Shirou to give up on his ideals and beliefs.
(Spoiler)
He also defeats Saber in Hollow/Ataraxia, although with some handicap.
Yeah, I never really understood that “I can’t defeat any other heroic spirit” line until you explained it. Thank you.
@@Dovahkiin914 Shirou doesn't yet have that experience to fully leverage UBW's potential (in UBW route), so mimicing is the only tactics available to him at this point. So from Shirou's perspective, it's true that he "cant beat any other servants" at this point. But UBW itself is indeed powerful noble phantasm!
He only beat saber because of shirou holding her back, otherwise it would’ve been a wrap. But yeah, emiya gets a bad wrap because most of his fights are against his best counter, Cu.
Man Cu is such a massive counter to Emiya. His protection from arrows counters blade spamming and his own arrows, he is much faster than Emiya, his battle continuation will keep him fighting even if Emiya landed something lethal, and his disengage skill will let him run away if he ever senses he's in any true danger. Also, his NP Gae Bolg is absurdly broken, only handicaped by Cu's horrible luck. But who knows it might work on Emiya, since both have E ranked luck. It'll be a battle between two horrible lucks, and if Cu wins the battle is over. Plus with a good master, Cu can spam it up to 7 times in a row. It's crazy. Cu is one of Emiya's best counters, both ability wise and personality wise since they are opposites in life and practice.
@@Esper0101 Emiya can copy gae bolg and use it's abilities to land a final blow on Cu which will make sure his battle continuation get's nullified.
For those who aren't really deep into the lore this was the battle of will, a test by Archer to see how strong Shirou resolution to fight for his unrealistic ideal to save everyone. He doesn't want Shirou to endure infinite pain he's about to have, if he can't even beat his servant self how he can save thousands or even million of live without losing once. Archer forgot 1 thing, his battle spirit was long forgotten which Shirou remind him of. It his duty to save others even he can't save himself because he want to return the sole purpose of him the only surviving victim of the fuyuki fire, he's reason was to help every single person he met.
I see it differently. Archer really wanted to kill Shirou, not just "test" him. His argument was, that "because end of our journey was not what we desired for, the journey itself has no value. You should just die, because your future path has no meaning. If you die, I will disappear too and our mistake will be fixed. " Shirous counter argument was "I agree we failed in the end. However, even if the end result wasn't what we wished for, our journey still had value itself. You lived as you thought you should and I will live as I thought I should. There is nothing wrong in that. Even if we couldn't make our dream true, we used our life to work towards that goal. Our dream was not fulfilled in the end, but neither was it wrong to live by that dream."
What Archer forgot wasn't his battle spirit. It was, that Archer thought his dream was just copied from person who saved him, because he as Shirou admired Kiritsugu Emiya. That it wasn't his own dream and he didn't even have own dream, because he just try to make another person dream true. Shirou remind him that he didn't just copy dream of man who save him. He genuinely believe that putting others before yourself is beautiful dream and he should work toward it to become "hero of justice" even if he couldn't become one in the end. It was his own wish that put him to his journey, not that he have to pay back to Kiritsugu Emiya.
In the end Archer let Shirou put knife to him, because he understood that it was his own dream. He could kill Shirou, but he could never break his spirit. He could never make him let go of his dream, because he has walked that same path. In the end, it wasn't his dream that was foolish, and he didn't want to strike his younger version down just because he believed what Archer himself had always believed.
NO MATTER WHAT ANYONE SAYS, this is what story telling is all about. It cements Shirou Emiya as my favorite hero in fiction. To battle his literal future self that lost to despair only to reignite the hope he had lost.
On the other hand, Shirou realizes what lies ahead, and still pushes forward towards that future. Shirou is the best protag
Ngl this was one of the few times the anime actually stood on par with the visual novel in terms of characters and fights
Yeah its amazing how deeply they could make me feel their story in such a short amount of time
And somehow, majority still fail to see the brilliance of this fight and call bs cuz Shirou won.
@@miteigi8334 ppl who call this fight bs probably missed the whole point of the fight
@@Ether_Liner_Ado_Edem They not only missed the point of the fight. They missed the whole point of the route is itself
for real, that annoyed me the most. There's a dude who dropped the series because "Shirou's plot armor against Archer is the dumbest thing in anime" and never have I ever clicked a dislike button so fast in my life
For those wondering, this was never a battle of strength, it was of will. Two conflicting ideals trying to prove itself to the other. If Archer wanted to, he could ve just ended it, but that wasnt the point. His defeat at the end was him remembering that scene w Kiritsugu n realizing what he forgot, his old ideal.
The last stardust.
One of the best ost of all time.
You know something's about to go down when a song plays in the middle of the episode.
Especially when it's something so different from the rest of the OST. When Last Stardust started playing, it cemented the scene to be the peak of UBW story and considering that UBW focuses on Shirou's and Archer's connection, it makes sense
戦い自体は激しくはない。でもお互いの信念のぶつかり合いは見てて熱くなる
"even if it's foolish, I won't turn back" epic
錆びた剣に輝きが戻る演出だいすこ
あれは錆びたのが元に戻ってるわけじゃなくて、士郎を認め始めたことで心で負けて、心象世界がアーチャーのものから士郎のものへと侵食されてるんやで
つまり錆びた剣が元に戻ってるのではなく、士郎はまだ正義の味方として歩み始めた段階だから、まだ剣が錆びてないだけや
アーチャーが士郎にぶつけた怒りが飛び火してくるセイバーさん。
ホントそうゆうとこだぞ我が王()
20:26
ここからの士郎の独白、自分の理想や在り方が歪だと自覚していて尚、純粋な願いが打ち克って自身の信念を貫き通そうとする姿がホント好き
Here before the song is muted by copyright
EMIYA followed by Last Stardust... such an eargasmic fight
Ahh yes, shirou vs shirou...hope that shirou win
10:55
-Last Stardust
I actually want to see the final episode reaction mashup of ubw. Where the clocktower is
Yes! Agreed!
真ん中←のおっさん叫ばなくていいところでもずっと叫んでるやん
曲入ってんの嬉しい！
違法アップロード気持ち良すぎだろ
Best EP
If Gilgamesh were to go into the past and remind his past self to change , they both would be laughing together with Future Gilgamesh using his EA because he can't stand his own arrogance.
Think you could do one for when Archer attacks medea at the church?
The boy will not fall
待ってましたああああ！！！
おまえには負けない。誰かに負けるのはいい。
けど、自分には負けられない！
うー－ん良い言葉だ、最高！
違法視聴気持ち良すぎだろ
@@古事記-z6e ケツアナ確定な
@@214544121254 あぅ
kerry must be proud.
next reaction video: shirou meets sakura for the first time please
Peak writing.
This scene was peak in the VN and even more peak in the anime. While the UBW VN didn't show Archer whipping out his reality marble, it's nice that the anime opted for this direction because it is better thematically when you think about it.
i don't agree, archer had low mana to create a marble which was not needed for him to beat shirou in the first place, also it was a clash of ideals which were always depicted in simpler fights in VN like kirei vs shirou fist fighting, archer and shirou swinging swords
@@imfedup259 Yeah but considering how this medium caters to the greater audience who enjoy action mixed in with story telling, having to add this was a way to pander to the greater populous that don't know about Fate and just wanted some good endgame action whilst summing up what the anime was adapting from the VN
Thank you
さいこぉぉぉお！
違法視聴最高すぎだろ
@@古事記-z6e 外人の反応は最高ですけど、
違法視聴はダメですよ。ちゃんと金払って見ましょうね！
@@Atgr-LiHt わかりました
Lol bottom right and left are from all the Gintama mashups
Fate最高！❤
thank u
Nice next video lancer vs assasin fate heavens feel
ありがとー
Hm, what a impactful Fight.
Nice👍
next is saber vs assassin
shirou vs card gilgamesh
I hate people who dont get this route and the fight archer and shirou had its basically a battle of ideals not a battle to the death for now... Archer wanted to destroy shirou emiya's ideal to make him realize his dream is nothing but fantasy which of course Shirou Emiya denies it and fights back but he slowly accepted the fact archer was right about his ideals but thankfully he remembers that even if his ideals are borrowed the ideal of saving everyone you could see is still beautiful and is not wrong.... Ive got to say UBW Shirou would be the best Shirou who developed that is on par with Heavens Feel Shirou and Miyuverse Shirou so yeah
if archer wanted to kill him he would have
epik
My new favorite form of anime piracy is viewing anime on youtube with 8 people reacting to it
消されんなよ......！？
数多の動画が消されてきた中、この動画が生き残れるか見ものやな
時間の問題
違法アップロード気持ち良すぎだろ
2年経ちましたね
Rin VS Dark Sakura
It still bothers me that Saber is just there with no major role or anything here in UBW. Feels like she's just there so Shirou can be called a master.
Or maybe it's just me. I wonder what happened to Sakura in UBW. Is she abused by Shinji too? Is Zouken still inside her? etc.
Poor girl.
if shirou said " I am the bone of my sword " in English like Archer would be better and impact
If both of them say same line,it's strange.Both of Emiya Shirou but they are different so it would be better to be different
@@小鳥遊-g2q No, Its not strange bcuz they are the same person same power same identity only just different time and at start of the battle Archer said trace on like Shirou
At the end of the anime you can see Shirou walk the same path like Archer
@@imcat1236 No,they have little different mental image world each other in UBW.You're able to understand it comparing Shirou's one and Archer's one in anime.also,Shirou doesn't walk the same path as long as Rin is by Shirou's side, and Saber route and Sakura route also don't become the Archer.Author(Nasu Kinoko) is saying
He did Deen version of UBW if I remember correctly.
I think it's intentional. Shirou says it in Japanese as that's his mother language, Archer estranged himself so much from Shirou that he changed the chant for his Reality Marble, his literal expression of his soul, so that he uses a language diffrent from his mother tounge. His estrangment can be seen by how he calls himself. He is either called Archer or EMIYA. He is never called Shirou.
Me vengoooooo
Shirouuu!!
More fate grand order pls
違法視聴気持ち良すぎだろ
違法アップロード助かる
左のやつ、リアクションで物語聞こえてないんじゃねw、BGMも声もどうでもいいって感じ