Why we're leaving The Netherlands to renovate a farmhouse in Italy
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- Опубликовано: 24 июн 2023
- In this video we share a bit of our backstory with you. It took us 10 years, from the fragile dream of buying a farm, to discovering Italy, falling in love with Piemonte, going through the house hunting process and finally buying our house in Piemonte, Italy.
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This is NOT a definitive guide to buying a house in Italy. There are several of those on RUclips that are very useful and illuminating.
This is the kind of story that we missed hearing more of: the personal, individual choices and decisions you'll be confronted with when you're starting this kind of adventure.
In January 2023 we bought this farm in Piemonte, Italy. We'll be moving there permanently in 2 weeks time.
Thank you for watching!
Dear Isis & Bertus, Lovely film. I think you are missing one incredibly important 'force' and that is of the universe. The Cascina also found you...
Hi Andrew! She definitely did, and thank you for reflecting that back! The way we see it is that allowing the process to be non-linear, is allowing that which needs to find you to come on your path. There was so much more we could have said in this video, but we're trusting that whatever needs to be said will find its way into future videos in time :-) And the idea of "the house that chose us" already made its way into our opening episode.
i consider myself beeing an introvert thats why i rarely approach people by myself. but when i visited my grandma in italy as a kid, i always looked forward to also visit the neighbours. anna-maria was a sweet old lady. she loved baking and her roses and had a dog called susie that got occasionally insulted when it ran over the flowers. its a small village, people know each other and we always had a heartwarming welcome when we came. i'm not sure why i tell you this.. try to enjoy making others happy like anna-maria did, and you will too live a long, healthy and happy life.
Bravo. Well thought out, well said and most appreciated. May all your dreams come true.
Watching your videos is such a pleasure. I love your authentic personalities and your way of planning and doing things. I am happy to be a part of your journey through your videos. Good luck to you on all your journeys!
thank you! 🌿
Excellent video! We were so impressed by your process; from the practical to spiritual. Piemonte is a beautiful area, you made the perfect choice!
Thank you
Mi ha fatto molto piacere ascoltare la vostra storia. Thank you for sharing!
So many good and useful thoughts on the subject, thank you!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Lovely to see you both and thank you for such a detailed explanation of your journey. It constantly amazes me that we always end up where we are supposed to be without necessarily being aware during the process that it only happens in that exact moment and that exact place. I have been patiently waiting for over ten years now to find it and I have had to let go of all my expectations that it would be easy and just keep living where I am until that time.
it's amazing what can come our way when we let go of expectations! rooting for you finding your place ❤️
thx for sharing your journey to actually finding your place. I feel like I am 'in the waiting room'-episode, I don't yet have the actual money to buy, it is still in other shared property. I have found a place I really like. I like your little steps approach and how to keep the candle burning. And I like the non-linear perspective... I also have the feeling it goes that way. It is like dancing with life and listen to the music of it, where does the music push you to. Wishing you all the best 💮
Thank you! When we started dreaming ten years ago we were fresh out of university, with only one no stable income and some study dept. A lot can happen in 10 years - if you dance with life and listen to the music :-)
Thank you for sharing you story. I'm really happy for you guys, and also excited to see the continuing journey.
Our pleasure! And thank you!
Glad your dreams are coming true and you are sharing your journey with us. Yes Canadians and Americans have many similarities, but also a lot of differences. Having lived in both countries the biggest difference would be Americans not knowing much about Canada. Whereas Canadians are totally influenced by the US on daily basis. I’ve also lived in the Netherlands twice, i continue to practice my Dutch with the Duolingo app!
We’ve just started our 5 to 10 year plan to move to Italy. We’ve both turned 50 this year. We already have family who live in Piemonte.
Best of luck on your adventure!!!
Thanks for sharing :)
It is interesting to know your reasoning for why you have chosen this area and property.
I am in England. We very very rarely get any forest fires and also very rare to get an earthquake - and even then, I’m not sure they have been bad enough to cause damage to buildings. We do however get lots of rain, and flooding seems to have become more common. So you referred to maps for earthquake and fire risk, I look at flooding risk!
I hadn’t realised that you can drive back to friends and family within a day - does that mean you will have lots of visitors (friends and family) to come and help you with the renovations? …… or will they be hoping for relaxing visits 😊
Thanks again for you video and hoping that your packing/planning for your move in July is going smoothly.
we do expect occasional family/friend visits, both from people who are eager to help and people who are eager to rest 😉
What an excellent video. Can’t wait to see your journey, your house is beautiful. You speak better English than I do, and I’m English 🤣🤣🤣
thank you! "the netherlands" is such a hard word to pronounce in english though 🤣 we keep tripping over it 😅
Excellent!!! I'm currently i the SAME boat.... thank you, TONS, for sharing! Blessings from Texas! :)
You are so welcome! Best of luck!
What a sensible idea, starting to learn the language . Ultimately helpful too. Best wishes
You are living the dream, and that is so awesome!
Dear Isis & Bertus.. thanks for sharing your reasons for your moving to Italy.. I can certainly relate to most criteria.. only not in Italy.. but inside the Netherlands.. from the west to a small village in Friesland.. it was a coming home experience for me personally .. just like you in Piemonte.. looking out to following you guys..keep up the work .. and do enjoy 👍👍👍
It's beautiful to experience truly coming home! So happy that you found that in Friesland!
Missing you guys.. are we ever going to see you again in the near future?!
I was impatiently waiting for your vlogs. Yeah, your journey really starts
More to come! We have two+ episodes worth of footage to edit, just to get round to doing it :-)
Glad to hear you're enjoying it! I would say that Bertus is the more methodical thinker and I'm the more intuitive one :-) We complement each other very well in that respect :-) The restlessness you mention is very familiar. But if there's one thing that this process has taught us, it is to be patient, with ourselves, and with the world really. This has spilled over into many other domains of our lives, including our businesses. The times where it has felt easy is when we approached it with patience and relaxing into the unknown. The times where it felt hard is where we were pushing to make things fit that linear time-line that we are so used to :-)
Good Decision to come to live in Italy, especially if your mom is already here. 👍
I came to Italy too years ago, but it was for love and I didn't need to look to property. We are living in an area of Torino and I would like to suggest some places to visit where you can take very good pictures.
On the first place it is Gran Paradiso National Park, there is Col di Nivolet and Punta di Belvedere, from this point you can see two incredible lakes, one is green but the other one is Blu, it is my favorite place on the Planet Earth - every time I am there I see them in different colors, it is magic place! 😊
The second one we go more often because it is closer, it is Moncenisio lake, just at the border in France. Good place to relax and walk, you can also visit some small villages down there. From there sometimes we go to Col de Iseran, sometimes we get snow there in the summer.😅
Sometimes we make big tours in France. One of them is via Moncenisio lake, Col de Iseran and then enter in Valle d'Aosta in Italy.
The other one is via Val Susa, Cesana, Monginevro, Briancon in France, then Call du Galibier, Modane, Moncenisio lake and enter in Italy.
Another interesting tour is to go to Colle dell'Agnello, Col d'Isoard that is a spectacular place, then Briancon and via Cesana to enter Italy.
If you like to hike go to Monviso that is nearby you or to Cervino in Valle d'Aosta.
Nearby here in Piemonte and Valle d'Aosta you can visit many castles and fortress as Exilles, Forte delle Finestrelle, Fénis, Bard, ecc.
In autumn we like to make a tour nel Le Langhe, the colors are picturesque! 😊
Ah yes, visit also Lago Maggiore with it's island Isola Bella, che e molto bella, and Isola dei Pescatori, also the near Lago d'Orta.
But you know Italia is so beautiful place and I love it, as I love my native country Bulgaria. 😊
For some of the places I wrote to you I have some videos here, take a look. For Moncenisio I should publish it soon.
Take in consideration that places like Moncenisio and Gran Paradiso are closed in the snowy months!
So use the summer to visit these places. 😊
@@dr.christopherjohnson4840Hello, I am not looking here for a new relationship, I am already married. 😃
But I can make you know my sister, she is free. 😉
Safe travels back! Exciting times ahead ❤
yes, definitely!!! thank you ebonie and martin! ❤️
Isis and Bertus, thought of you today, a search showed a new episode, 10 days ago already, but here we are. You both have given so much thought into youir carefully planned next steps, yet you let if all flow. Ask and it shall be given: I find this inner trust in life's processes one of the most enjoyable facets of your journey. Thank you for sharing about your past, looking forward to follow you along, as you unfold new and exciting possibilities!
Hello my Piemontesi friends,you did the right thing choosing Piemonte,we have been living here since 1984,having moved from Lombardia.People are more friendly than the Lombards
the friendliness of the people here is incredible! it keeps blowing our minds!
What a beautiful place.....and safe from all is happening in Nederlands now. I can relate to flat open spaces ..they make me uneasy and vulnerable
I think I’ve got the fever for Italy too, great to hear your detailed story and tips.
glad it was valuable! best of luck with persuing the fever/dream 😉
Hi Issis & Bertus, Nice meeting you again,a great story about your Odyssee true Europe to find your place of Dreams🤙🍀🇮🇹, Thanks for sharing, Greetings.Hubertus🇳🇱🇳🇴🙏🏻☮
I’m sure I’m not the only one who is envious of you being able to live your dream. I live in Brisbane, Australia and I am particularly envious of Europeans having sooo many beautiful countries on your doorstep to choose where you’d like to live - to me it would be such a gift to NOT have to spend 27 hours on a plane to visit Europe, where I have always wanted to live since I was first there in my early 20’s… sadly it will never be a possibility for me.
I sympathise with Isis about not liking the look of Holland as I feel the same about Australia - to me it is ugly (at least Queensland is), burnt out, unbearably hot and humid. The landscape, to me, looks dead and lifeless and the bush is not pleasant to look at or be in. Unlike Europe which is beautiful and green and I believe safe from poisonous snakes. The worse thing about living where I do is that the heat and humidity from summer is never ending, lasting at least 7 - 8 months of the year. Being outdoors is unbearable as you feel like you are being cooked alive and you sweat like a pig all day, so you spend all your time indoors in the air conditioning hiding from the heat and humidity - & we feel like we are in prison. It’s only really comfortable to be outdoors in our ‘winter’ which is in June & July.
Sooo, I live vicariously through people like yourselves who relocate throughout Europe and create their dream lives. I eagerly look forward to your updates, thanks for sharing.
I also live in Australia but my feelings are completely different I live in the ranges of Victoria which is green 90% of the year and you can spend much more time outdoors.if you don’t like Brisbane look further around Australia there are many beautiful places with different climates and scenery so don’t knock the whole country instead explore the country till you find an area you like that is more like your beloved Europe and move there.
@@elizabethstreeter2145 Yes, I completely agree with you that Victoria and many other places in Australia have beautiful green scenery with reasonable summers.
I wasn’t ‘knocking’ Australia, I was stating a fact as it affects me and many others I know in Qld. Lots of people like me don’t have the freedom to move interstate let alone overseas due to extended family commitments that make relocating impossible. I’d move in a heartbeat if it wasn’t the case… and I can understand why you love Victoria so much, if I could live anywhere in Australia, Victoria would be my first choice.
Weird take. Australia on much of the east coast heading south has great climate. You may have visited Europe but you obv have no clue how 1700h of sunshine a year feel. Winters are long, cold and dark. It's no coincidence that suicide rates are so high here. Seasonal depression is real. Not to speak of low salaries in much of Europe, compared to AUS or the US. The nicer places are crazy expensive to live in and in pretty sure you wouldn't gain anything over living in Sydney or Melbourne. You're a classic case of selective attention and frankly, you have no clue what you have in AUS. You don't even know how easy you have it.
Thank you for sharing your process for finding your perfect property.
you're welcome ❤️
In the beginning of your video I asked my self: Why not Germany? I am from south-west Germany, Palatinate region. This is quite rural. The large, old farm house of our family was sold for just 75k€. But then: Yes. The house is large and has a large garden. But it is still in a village. Solitary houses with farm land around are somewhat uncommon in Germany.
i think for at least 4-5 years we were convinced it would be germany for us! 😊
Super interesting, thanks so much for the insight.
you're welcome 😊
Good luck with the move! And I do get the different culture and same language thing...being Canadian 😋
I finally started your video from the beginning, for I watched several others.
What I appreciate about yal's story, though you work very hard, ya'l seem so laid back and calm. I really appreciate your background music, that it's soft and fits your lifestyle. ❤
Love your explanation and so intrigued about all the countries so close together.I live in Australia in Victoria and three of my children moved to Queensland which is two days travel away on reasonable roads out of towns and not though mountains so to think that so much is so close is mind blowing to the likes of us.our area is semi rural now we have neighbours, not when we moved here,we are in bush fire area and have been burnt out once, rebuilt quite quickly ,which is not happening to people now,even major storm damage is taking a couple of years to get fixed for many people,and that is now the major issues we live with, but we love it here and feel at home.
I really enjoy watching y’all.your interesting! I like that!
it's amazing to see you've come so far to get to your dream! We're in our 2nd year of our 10 year plan to buy a house in Italy and seeing this is inspiring.
Best of luck! Glad to hear this was inspiring :-)
Thank you for your openness. As well as the graphs with all the faultiness of a possible earth quake. I have been looking in Abruzzo and Umbria. Now I"m open to Piemonte.
we are definitely not trying to say "don't buy in abruzzo" we know people who have and are super happy there. for us the combination of factors made us settle on the north. be sure to check out @brambletye. they are in abruzzo :)
and good luck with you adventure! ❤️
@@storiesfromthecascina BIG FAN of @brambletye and their dog! Great couple!
Thank you for such detailed explanation of your journey and of your dreams. Looking forward to following your progress. 🤗
Another very interesting story from you. Thanks for sharing. All the best with the move!
Jullie doen wat wij willen. Maar dan in Puglia. Dank jullie voor de video’s, wij steken er veel van op ❤
veel plezier met jullie droom tot leven wekken!
I just found your channel and really enjoyed this video. Looking forward to catching up and following your journey!
Thanks for watching!
Thank you, have just found you so now binge watching your journey to catch up. Really appreciate those tips to keep the dream alive. Have found our spot in Southern Tasmania but after 5 years still living in a caravan.
Patience grasshopper 🦗
Very interesting! Very much enjoying your vlogs so far and looking forward to watching this adventure. 👏🏻well done to both of you.
Glad you enjoyed it
A Heart warming, sincere explanation of what it is... Blessings on your path in realizing your dream and living it moment by moment...💝
Thank you so much!
Glad you found what you were looking for, and I hope you achieve all of your goals there.
Congrats for the decision and courage to take such a huge project! The project is nicely evolving. The region looks nice and decision around moving to Italy makes sense given some relatives also being not so far away. The list of alternative countries was nice. Personally, I think that mediteranium/alpine part wins over the rest. Though personally would move to different country than you as a result of long term prospects as Italy is in a structural decline and will continue to be declining for foreseeable future. As such, infrastructure and basic services will continue to deteriorate. Which is some other cases is not looking to be the case.
This is So informative ❤
Ik ben verslaafd aan dit soort filmpje.
What a great episode, thanks for sharing your acquired wisdom. 😊
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you for sharing and all the best for the future. Looking forward to your next video.
very interesting
lovely people. xoxo
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Heel inspirerend!
Het is eigenlijk wel grappig dat jullie identiek dezelfde conclusies trekken als wij mbt de locatie ivm temperatuur, natuur, nabijheid NL/BE, etc. Fijn om bevestigd te zien :)
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You really considered everything guys: cheers! But I can assure you if you get a good honest Geometra that can tell you everything about a building, including the seismic regions, it's kind downhill from there
We have a geometra, she came recommended so let's hope that indeed it will be an easy journey :-) with plenty of good challenges, but without too much struggle ;-)
you can have good friends as a "foreigner"
Fastest click on a video ever!
Very interesting video. What did you both do for work back in the Netherlands? And what work will you be doing remotely in Italy to fund your life there as you probably won’t be getting local employment, at least not immediately.
Thank you Isis and Bertus, that was really interesting and insightful.
I guess the beautiful nearby coastline makes it a more expensive area ?
Personally, as a Brit, to avoid the heat, I'd be looking at the foothills of the Western Alps.
glad it was insightful! we are about an hour drive from the sea, but we haven't noticed any price influences because of it. the ligurian coast line is definitely more expensive but real estate prices in the mountains (even the ligurian mountains) are much lower.
temperatures at the foothills of the alps and where we are (we have an elevation of 550m above sea level) are very similar. we've also looked for property there, actually that's where our search in piemonte started, but we've organically ended up a bit more to the east 😊
Love your videos and what you’re doing…..what roughly is the price you have to pay for something like your beautiful place because I’am thinking of moving there also…..🤗
we'll be doing a video on this topic in the fall/winter. it all depends on what size of house and land you want. but generally, for something the size of ours with lots of work to be done asking prices are around 250.000-300.000 euro. our house is huge though and not what most people would need or even want 😊
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@@dr.christopherjohnson4840 Greetings from India, thank you, we hope you are well too.
So interesting to hear what makes people move to a new land. My opinion is that you two made the right move. No cows in holland coming soon is a good reason to move. Being able to have your own land to "grow your own foods" might be very smart reason too. How about medical now that you will be living there? I learned a lot on this video on where to live in Italy. It would drive me mad about the permitting process for sure. So in your area, it is still strict on building codes? There was no information regarding your alien status? How does that work? Thank you.
Yes, we'll also have to deal with strict building codes! Those are the same all over Italy. Regarding the "alien status": we aren't going into this too much as we are European citizens and don't have to deal with visa etc. so we can't speak from personal experience about that process.
Veo todos los vídeos, me encantan, podría ser posible poner el traductor de idioma al español. Sería genial, consulta cuánto se pagó la casa en el estado que estaba? Cómo para tener idea de costo de una propiedad saludos desde argentina
Hi! We will look into if and how we can set up subtitles in different languages. We plan to do a video on the cost of the property in the future, when the time feels right for us to do so. Possibly this winter. :-) Thank you for watching!
Never mentioned how much?
Thanks for this. :). I still like to hear how you then went about finding the actual house. Idealista? Real Estate agents? Word of mouth?
we decided to do a seperate video on that part of the journey as this one was getting quite long and it felt rushed to tackle it all. so, that one's coming your way sometime this summer :)
@@storiesfromthecascina Nice. Thanks.
What happened....i didnt see any new videos
We moved! The last month we drove up and down between The Netherlands and Italy twice and between that and unpacked computers editing moved to the background for a while :-)
@@storiesfromthecascina can't wait to see more❣️
Well with Rutte as the prime minister, I'd sure leave the Netherlands too. He seems to be destroying what used to be such an efficient, cosmopolitan, people appreciative country.
Just wondering, what income you both will be living off and how will you pay for renovations..I noticed you are a photographer and what type of work does your partner do...will you both be looking for employment in italy??
Hi Joseph! We are both self-employed and won't be looking for employment here. We are moving over our own businesess to Italy. And we have savings to get started with the renovation. My work these days is mostly online (I coach other creative business owners) and we are steadily building an adittional income stream from making these videos as well.
ik snap niet wat je bedoelt alles is vlak, heerlijk juist je kan heel ver kijken wij wonen tussen de bomen en je ziet niks
daarom zoeken wij plekken waar je heel ver kan kijken > dat geeft mij vrijheid en het liefst aan het water
en ja ik snap je wel wat je nu hebt zou je in NL misschien niet kunnenkopen,
maar als ik ( ja ik ,niet jullie ) er voor mocht kiezen had ik een huis proberen te krijgen in Friesland
hey ans! voorkeur voor en connectie met bepaalde soorten landschappen is heel persoonlijk! er bestaat geen objectief mooier of beter landschap, maar waar iedereen zich het meeste thuis voelt is voor iedereen anders. ik ben heel blij dat er veel mensen zich juist wel volop thuis voelen in het nederlandse landschap!
Pity you didn't consider Marche at all, it is a so nice region!
We did, actually but it never made it to our shortlist. It's where my late stepfather was from. But for reasons that can't be explained by ratio, it didn't feel like a place where we'd like to settle down. In no way do we feel that the regions where we looked are "better" than other areas in Italy - and we're looking forward to making many trips to all that Italy has to offer in the future, as we have been doing in the past years as well.
Interesting but if you want to grow your channel or keep the people you have then this pace is way too slow. I will be elderly by the time you start doing the actual work 🧓🏼👵🏼👵🏼👵🏼👨🏻🦳
i think you might have missed the parts where we (repeatedly) share that we aren't even living there yet. all the videos that we've shared so far have been recorded over four weeks total of being in Italy. 🤣 that said, we'll do the work at whatever pace feels good to us, thank you very much 😉
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