great video, this was a really comfy adventure to go down with you. i find myself with a lot of old school hardware myself and it feels good knowing these machines wont meet the scrap heap and will instead be safe and sound in a collection/use case.
This is the sort of stuff that I love to do. Find old hardware, (try) to upgrade it, and set it up exactly how I like it knowing darn well that I will never actually use it.
great video! i had one of those, which i upgraded to a core 2 duo t7400, 4gb of ram (out of which 3gb are usable), and a wd green 240gb ssd. regarding linux, the reason why drivers just work is due to how the linux kernel is structured. essentially since most drivers are FOSS, they can be bundled with the install image, so there's rarely a need to go hunting for them manually.
Haven’t finished the video yet, but a great way to open these is with a putty knife that you use to spread filler on walls. You will find that they’re wide enough and thin enough to slide in between the plastic chassis and the metal enclosure and won’t leave any marks and will unclip multiple clips at the same time :)
Hey, thanks! Yeah, people in my chat were talking about the putty knife. I’ll try it next time I have one of these apart. Still super annoying to open though. Three screws would do the job just as well.
I have a 2005 Mac Mini with a PowerPC G4 in it that my friend gave me. I use it to play Minecraft for PowerPC lol. It's got its box and papers as well, so I like to decorate with it sometimes.
I think taking the time to learn a bit about linux can be super helpful, yeah it takes time but, as you see on this old hardware, it can totally revive it. I have been toying with it for a while, mostly as a curiosity like many of us here with computers we "don't need", and it is a great asset in the tool belt I think. The server stuff you can do with it as well, TrueNAS has been one of my favorite additions to the homelab, have the files I used to usb to each device now just on a network share. Would love to see more videos with you trying linux too, the journey is a neat thing to to experience, and as you get to understand the basics, you can get a better picture of what it can do for you. SteamOS is also super awesome now, super happy Valve is putting work in to make things easier with stuff a lot of us rely on Windows to even do. Keep it up!
To be fair, most parents arent installing 20 year old FPS games, if you're installing more mainstream software then you'll have a much easier time with Linux Mint.
You made opening that as difficult as possible, my man. Get a 2” putty knife. Start on the left or right side and go from back to front. Then do the other side. It’ll peel right out.
Love seeing more people try Linux, been daily driving it for years, would fully switch to it but CoD dosent work on Linux at all. good job giving it a fair shot tho!
@schvabek yeah I tried linux for years and definitely not for me, I prefer software working right out of the box rather than to tweak it beforehand for it to work
@@alexlun4464It’s funny because Windows was always like that for me. Constantly broken out of the box. Linux has always just worked every time. It only broke when I did something super dumb.
@@schvabek sorry for my poor explanation. as you know, linux mint is based of ubuntu. which yes, only supports 64 bit. however ubuntu is based of debian, which DOES support 32 bit. the linux mint team has 2 versions of mint, the main ubuntu one (64 bit only) and the LMDE release, 32 bit and 64 bit. since LMDE still supports 32 bit and is still updated, its like having linux mint 22 but on 32 bit.
@ I got myself a early 2008 17 inch MacBook Pro with it’s maximum configuration without knowing and all of that for 50 euros and it’s in pretty good shape and I just had to buy a replacement battery (60 euros) and everything else is stock and works flawlessly, for 110 euros one of my favourite purchases recently lol, sorry for the long comment 😅
I don't have an old Mac Mini like this, but I do currently use a mid-2010 MacBook as my main laptop, and I quad-boot Windows 7, Linux Mint, OS X 10.8, and macOS 10.13 on it. I generally use Windows 7 and OS X 10.8 the most, since Linux Mint doesn't run great on NVIDIA graphics and macOS 10.13 is a bit slow and drains the battery quickly.
I'm happy that your community recommended mint because it just works if it does I dont get why you installed the tarball though but maybe I'm missing something Also wine mostly just works for older games and has the same performance as native.
Of course I’m going next-door to go film the video. I’ve been planning to film for the last two years and I see this video. 🤣 mines gonna be way different though so🤷🏻♂️ G4 versus Intel coming soon
Some notes: 1. You can easily open the mac mini using a putty masonry tool (with almost no marks on the aluminium case of the plastic bottom. 2. If your mini needs ddr2 667 mhz and you cannot find a 2GB one, you can mix 1GB 667 with 2GB 800, it will work, both will run at 667 and you will have 3GB of RAM 3. Best macos for those is Lion. 4. ssd helps a little bit but the bus speed is limited so you will not get 300-400 MB/s speeds ...
nice on my main setup i use macOS, NixOS (linux system) and Windows lol ... its cool to see you trying out linux. Yeah macOS is BSD based sysetm so I can see it preforming quite close to Linux, but yeah windows 10 isn't great for those older machines i say windows 7 would be better personally, but yeah nice video.
Great video bro! I have one like this in my attic. I kinda collect Apple hardware. (Nisam ni znao da kod nas ima ljudi koji rade ovakve sadržaje. Pretplatio sam se na kanal.)
the best macOS is snow leopard but macOS yosemite was pretty good but macOS big sur is a bit too tactile the icons are big like a phone and the icons lack detail to differentiate them the next macOS I wish the docks had spherical icons like the vision OS would be much better too
Soooo question! I need one of this machines to run software I can't on a newer mac (I own a 2019 MBP), are you perhaps selling one of this along with the PSU ? I live in Spain, in case it matters!
I've got 3 older Mac Minis, 2010-2012 and 2014 and runing Linux Mint, ChromeFlex and FydeOS (a version of Chrome) FydeOS is clean and easy to use, and can also run Android apps, ChromeFlex is simple and Google ecosystem, so if you are familiar wiht Google Docs etc, its very easy (but no Android apps) and Linux Mint is also quick but a heavy OS and takes up a lot of disk space as it has soo many features, apps etc. Also getting used to command line is new, but fun. (I had to look up what "sudo" meant and why it was needed lol). All are much quicker booting than Mac Montery (the most current OS) and run faster, but small bugs like WiFi speeds and Fans blowing all the time take time to figure out the solution. For family who arent tech savy, I'd go with ChromeFlex on an older Mac laptop like a Macbook Air or Pro, as its the simplest to run and does everything a basic user needs, plus its always up to date with security. btw I'm posting this from my 2015 MacBook Pro 13, with dual boot OSX and Linux Mint, and I'm in the Linux partition, as it is quicker than OSX Monterey.
When you open the old style mac mini... if you do not want to ruin the case. use a metal spatula or even better a metal "osthyvel" (a device to slice cheese commonly used in the nordic countries), thus you leave no marks on the plastic. This is true for all models of half cubes from g4 to latest core models that use that design. Watching you pry them open with a flathead hurts me to my soul.
i bought a 2007 mac mini with 4gigs and added a m.2 with an adapter, installed linux mint, it ran perfect for years but now i switched it to macOS Monterey and even with only 4gigs it streams video perfect, i use it as my daily, and i rarely even turn on my good systems! i use my 08 iMac as a tv everyday using mint although it can run Monterey i just like mint better. people throw these away for no reason. apple scares them into upgrading, god bless opencore! lol
08:35 That's not a 2011, they have a round disc cover that easily opens, most likely you have minis from 2005 through 2009. Try using a metal putty knife to safely open 2005-2009 Mac minis instead of a flat head screw driver which tends to damage the plastic or worse, destroy the tabs.
I’ve talked about that to a few people already, but essentially if I have to ship these out to you, depending on where you live, you’d pay more in shipping/customs fees than the thing is worth. They’re not that expensive.
the ONLY reason that the mac mini g4 was faster than most early x86 mac minis was that they did not have altivec and also the older macs had ATi graphics chips, to save cost (not to the consumer) they initially went with intel GMA, and whilst a g4 can play minecraft just fine the later models can not. And the intel gpu drivers of that era was notoriously bad, in fact so bad that intel opensouced it all under the GPL license (except for codecs and other specific licensed stuff) BeOS, Linux, BSD and MacOS benefited greatly from this. Intel did too. Today the intel gpu's like the 810 and the 740 is fully supported and still used by intel for servers.
On the PowerPC G4 Mac mini Morphos is the fastest with an average in benchmarks of 1.0 since it is the baseline, then linux at 0.95, OS9 at 0.8 (when it wants to boot, which is every time except a few random times where it just gives square mac icon), BSD at 0.75 and osx at 0.50. Should you go out and buy a G4? nah, they are old and tired, but if you are going to use it Morphos is a pricey option and not that much faster than Linux on said hardware. I personally believe that morphos is worth the money, and i have upgraded the mac mini G4 with max (1gb ram) and a 1tb ssd. My model is the 1.5ghz G4. The morphos specific software is excellent and the desktop workflow is the best bar none. In linux you are limited, if you want the same flow to amiwm, allthough excellent lacks most of morphos desktop features. (yes i know it is highly customizable, but at default amiwm offers very little other than the paper structure that i like) linux applications is nowadays also very rarely optimized for PPC or altivec, (also true for later versions of OSX after Tiger) which makes programs slower and harder to debug. If you want me to test another PPC OS that runs on the mac mini, let me know. I also tried building v2_OS and it ran well, but the applications available is very limited, and once again no altivec.
Ive run win10 on a core2duo and its only acceptable with 8GB ram, an SSD and overclocking the CPU to 3.8ghz so I can imagine how painful it is running on those mac minis 😅
Don’t use linux mint bro.. despite the looks and feel it’s actually kinda heavy.. try to use xubuntu or better yet debian vanilla with xfce, if you comparing the easy installation process with other linux distro and if you more familiar with ubuntu/debian command line, those two is the most recommended one..
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great video, this was a really comfy adventure to go down with you. i find myself with a lot of old school hardware myself and it feels good knowing these machines wont meet the scrap heap and will instead be safe and sound in a collection/use case.
@@williamjames9211 Thanks man! I enjoy playing with discarded hardware. And it’s good to know people enjoy watching that.
This is the sort of stuff that I love to do. Find old hardware, (try) to upgrade it, and set it up exactly how I like it knowing darn well that I will never actually use it.
Hahaha that’s what it’s all about ❤️ One of the reasons I’ve started a YT channel, so I’d have an excuse lol
@@schvabek I low key want to start another channel to make these sort of videos lol.
great video! i had one of those, which i upgraded to a core 2 duo t7400, 4gb of ram (out of which 3gb are usable), and a wd green 240gb ssd. regarding linux, the reason why drivers just work is due to how the linux kernel is structured. essentially since most drivers are FOSS, they can be bundled with the install image, so there's rarely a need to go hunting for them manually.
your videos are so fascinating. It is great to see someone with reverence and respect for these old machines of my childhood
@@CybersecPat Aww man, thanks so much!! It really means a lot to me.
Haven’t finished the video yet, but a great way to open these is with a putty knife that you use to spread filler on walls.
You will find that they’re wide enough and thin enough to slide in between the plastic chassis and the metal enclosure and won’t leave any marks and will unclip multiple clips at the same time :)
Hey, thanks! Yeah, people in my chat were talking about the putty knife. I’ll try it next time I have one of these apart. Still super annoying to open though. Three screws would do the job just as well.
Drivers generally come in the Linux kernel instead of being downloaded separately
@kadupse yep, that's why I specificied "most"
I have a 2005 Mac Mini with a PowerPC G4 in it that my friend gave me. I use it to play Minecraft for PowerPC lol. It's got its box and papers as well, so I like to decorate with it sometimes.
@@sketchpalosotherchannel Hey, that’s awesome! I’d love to have one to compare to the Intel model.
This was neat! I can't wait to see the CPU and SSD upgrade adventures.
Oh me too, I’m super curious about the results!
I think taking the time to learn a bit about linux can be super helpful, yeah it takes time but, as you see on this old hardware, it can totally revive it. I have been toying with it for a while, mostly as a curiosity like many of us here with computers we "don't need", and it is a great asset in the tool belt I think. The server stuff you can do with it as well, TrueNAS has been one of my favorite additions to the homelab, have the files I used to usb to each device now just on a network share.
Would love to see more videos with you trying linux too, the journey is a neat thing to to experience, and as you get to understand the basics, you can get a better picture of what it can do for you. SteamOS is also super awesome now, super happy Valve is putting work in to make things easier with stuff a lot of us rely on Windows to even do.
Keep it up!
I agree. I’ve learned a whole bunch just tinkering with it for a few days. I’ll definitely feature it in more videos.
To be fair, most parents arent installing 20 year old FPS games, if you're installing more mainstream software then you'll have a much easier time with Linux Mint.
You made opening that as difficult as possible, my man. Get a 2” putty knife. Start on the left or right side and go from back to front. Then do the other side. It’ll peel right out.
The 2” putty knife was what we used to open them at the Apple Store. It’s the approved solution for that machine.
Thanks, I’ll try that next time!
yess this is so neat! i'm a big fan of mac minis as well as your videos so this was a really fun watch :)
Man, thanks so much, glad you enjoyed it ❤️
Love seeing more people try Linux, been daily driving it for years, would fully switch to it but CoD dosent work on Linux at all. good job giving it a fair shot tho!
Thanks! Yeah, it wasn’t too bad, it’s just not for everyone
THAT DSOTM EEVELOUTIONS IMAGE.... man i got shot back into middle school with that xD i used to see that wallpaper everywhere!!
Oh yeah, I remember having that as my Nokia wallpaper even before I knew what Pink Floyd was lol.
perfectly summed up the linux experience in your video: it works*
Lol, I mean, it’s really not too bad, just not for everyone.
@schvabek yeah I tried linux for years and definitely not for me, I prefer software working right out of the box rather than to tweak it beforehand for it to work
@@alexlun4464It’s funny because Windows was always like that for me. Constantly broken out of the box. Linux has always just worked every time. It only broke when I did something super dumb.
@@alexlun4464 did you try it with kde plasma? Fedora one...
Instead of using an old release of mint, use linux mint LMDE as that is modern and supports 32 bit
I just went to their site again, and it states that all versions from 20 onward are only 64-bit available. Perhaps I’m missing something.
Linux Mint Debian Edition,as I remember it's on the end of the page@@schvabek
@ linux mint debian edition (LMDE) is the debian variant of linux mint 22. It supports 32 bit
@@schvabek sorry for my poor explanation.
as you know, linux mint is based of ubuntu. which yes, only supports 64 bit.
however ubuntu is based of debian, which DOES support 32 bit.
the linux mint team has 2 versions of mint, the main ubuntu one (64 bit only) and the LMDE release, 32 bit and 64 bit.
since LMDE still supports 32 bit and is still updated, its like having linux mint 22 but on 32 bit.
@s1oplus_wt thanks!
15:15 nope they are all actually in the linux kernel itself
Honestly it’s one steal for all 8, very good video btw
@@MagRBX agreed. Less than $10 a pop with power supplies, all working with HDD/RAM. Awesome.
@ I got myself a early 2008 17 inch MacBook Pro with it’s maximum configuration without knowing and all of that for 50 euros and it’s in pretty good shape and I just had to buy a replacement battery (60 euros) and everything else is stock and works flawlessly, for 110 euros one of my favourite purchases recently lol, sorry for the long comment 😅
Welcome to the best vids made by Schvabek well done Schvabek I love Mac’s I love ur vids!!!!!
Wow, man, thanks a bunch! ❤️
I don't have an old Mac Mini like this, but I do currently use a mid-2010 MacBook as my main laptop, and I quad-boot Windows 7, Linux Mint, OS X 10.8, and macOS 10.13 on it. I generally use Windows 7 and OS X 10.8 the most, since Linux Mint doesn't run great on NVIDIA graphics and macOS 10.13 is a bit slow and drains the battery quickly.
Wow, quad boot. Nice! 🤟
I'm happy that your community recommended mint because it just works if it does
I dont get why you installed the tarball though but maybe I'm missing something
Also wine mostly just works for older games and has the same performance as native.
you can upgrade core solo to duo
Whenever i watch ur videos my boredom vanishes because of the strange stuff that u do with old machines😂
@@zeuronplana8541 That’s awesome man 🤟
Of course I’m going next-door to go film the video. I’ve been planning to film for the last two years and I see this video. 🤣 mines gonna be way different though so🤷🏻♂️ G4 versus Intel coming soon
Hey, that’s awesome! I’ve done a video on PPC vs Intel not a month ago. Pretty fun. Good luck!
Some notes:
1. You can easily open the mac mini using a putty masonry tool (with almost no marks on the aluminium case of the plastic bottom.
2. If your mini needs ddr2 667 mhz and you cannot find a 2GB one, you can mix 1GB 667 with 2GB 800, it will work, both will run at 667 and you will have 3GB of RAM
3. Best macos for those is Lion.
4. ssd helps a little bit but the bus speed is limited so you will not get 300-400 MB/s speeds ...
nice on my main setup i use macOS, NixOS (linux system) and Windows lol ... its cool to see you trying out linux. Yeah macOS is BSD based sysetm so I can see it preforming quite close to Linux, but yeah windows 10 isn't great for those older machines i say windows 7 would be better personally, but yeah nice video.
Great video bro! I have one like this in my attic. I kinda collect Apple hardware. (Nisam ni znao da kod nas ima ljudi koji rade ovakve sadržaje. Pretplatio sam se na kanal.)
Ej, hvala ti puno! Uživaj u videima onda 🤟🤟
7:12 -- Please try a butter knife next time. So much easier. So much less damage. (I've taken my 2009 Mini apart many many times this way)
the best macOS is snow leopard but macOS yosemite was pretty good but macOS big sur is a bit too tactile the icons are big like a phone and the icons lack detail to differentiate them
the next macOS I wish the docks had spherical icons like the vision OS would be much better too
great project and video. your real and funny comments do the rest. keep going. thx
@@TheMinocula Thanks man, appreciated ❤️
You're now a mini horder😂
Yes :(
Would u try chromeos flex? Any coming vid?
Sure, I might do a video on that
Soooo question! I need one of this machines to run software I can't on a newer mac (I own a 2019 MBP), are you perhaps selling one of this along with the PSU ? I live in Spain, in case it matters!
Contact me via schvabek at gmail dot com, or DM me on our Discord, we’ll see what we can come up with.
I've got 3 older Mac Minis, 2010-2012 and 2014 and runing Linux Mint, ChromeFlex and FydeOS (a version of Chrome) FydeOS is clean and easy to use, and can also run Android apps, ChromeFlex is simple and Google ecosystem, so if you are familiar wiht Google Docs etc, its very easy (but no Android apps) and Linux Mint is also quick but a heavy OS and takes up a lot of disk space as it has soo many features, apps etc. Also getting used to command line is new, but fun. (I had to look up what "sudo" meant and why it was needed lol). All are much quicker booting than Mac Montery (the most current OS) and run faster, but small bugs like WiFi speeds and Fans blowing all the time take time to figure out the solution. For family who arent tech savy, I'd go with ChromeFlex on an older Mac laptop like a Macbook Air or Pro, as its the simplest to run and does everything a basic user needs, plus its always up to date with security. btw I'm posting this from my 2015 MacBook Pro 13, with dual boot OSX and Linux Mint, and I'm in the Linux partition, as it is quicker than OSX Monterey.
When you open the old style mac mini... if you do not want to ruin the case. use a metal spatula or even better a metal "osthyvel" (a device to slice cheese commonly used in the nordic countries), thus you leave no marks on the plastic. This is true for all models of half cubes from g4 to latest core models that use that design. Watching you pry them open with a flathead hurts me to my soul.
i bought a 2007 mac mini with 4gigs and added a m.2 with an adapter, installed linux mint, it ran perfect for years but now i switched it to macOS Monterey and even with only 4gigs it streams video perfect, i use it as my daily, and i rarely even turn on my good systems! i use my 08 iMac as a tv everyday using mint although it can run Monterey i just like mint better. people throw these away for no reason. apple scares them into upgrading, god bless opencore! lol
08:35 That's not a 2011, they have a round disc cover that easily opens, most likely you have minis from 2005 through 2009.
Try using a metal putty knife to safely open 2005-2009 Mac minis instead of a flat head screw driver which tends to damage the plastic or worse, destroy the tabs.
I’ve made two videos on my Mac Mini 2011. The one I’ve showed in the video is the 2006 model I’m working on.
Will you do a give away with Mac minis?
I’ve talked about that to a few people already, but essentially if I have to ship these out to you, depending on where you live, you’d pay more in shipping/customs fees than the thing is worth. They’re not that expensive.
@ what if you do an upgraded one. I know how to get a newer version of MacOS on it by open core.
the ONLY reason that the mac mini g4 was faster than most early x86 mac minis was that they did not have altivec and also the older macs had ATi graphics chips, to save cost (not to the consumer) they initially went with intel GMA, and whilst a g4 can play minecraft just fine the later models can not. And the intel gpu drivers of that era was notoriously bad, in fact so bad that intel opensouced it all under the GPL license (except for codecs and other specific licensed stuff) BeOS, Linux, BSD and MacOS benefited greatly from this. Intel did too. Today the intel gpu's like the 810 and the 740 is fully supported and still used by intel for servers.
Gotta say still better performancan than my DELL FX160 with only 1.6Ghz Atom and SiS Mirage 3
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@schvabek Keep it up. I hope your channel makes good progress.
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very good video to eat dinner or lunch to
@Not-that-good awesome. I do that myself too 😂
I wonder if xp would run much faster than 7?
@@lachietg Yep, I would. But I’ve installed that on many older macs already, and it’s very outdated.
Since u have so many working machines why dont u try mining
On the PowerPC G4 Mac mini Morphos is the fastest with an average in benchmarks of 1.0 since it is the baseline, then linux at 0.95, OS9 at 0.8 (when it wants to boot, which is every time except a few random times where it just gives square mac icon), BSD at 0.75 and osx at 0.50.
Should you go out and buy a G4? nah, they are old and tired, but if you are going to use it Morphos is a pricey option and not that much faster than Linux on said hardware. I personally believe that morphos is worth the money, and i have upgraded the mac mini G4 with max (1gb ram) and a 1tb ssd. My model is the 1.5ghz G4.
The morphos specific software is excellent and the desktop workflow is the best bar none. In linux you are limited, if you want the same flow to amiwm, allthough excellent lacks most of morphos desktop features. (yes i know it is highly customizable, but at default amiwm offers very little other than the paper structure that i like) linux applications is nowadays also very rarely optimized for PPC or altivec, (also true for later versions of OSX after Tiger) which makes programs slower and harder to debug.
If you want me to test another PPC OS that runs on the mac mini, let me know. I also tried building v2_OS and it ran well, but the applications available is very limited, and once again no altivec.
Sure You Can Upgrade The CPU And SSD Help Pretty Well
Ive run win10 on a core2duo and its only acceptable with 8GB ram, an SSD and overclocking the CPU to 3.8ghz so I can imagine how painful it is running on those mac minis 😅
can i get one them?
eBay T7200s needed!
opencore legacy patcher that shit to sequoia with a new cpu
well said the mac os is reliable and smooth to work on for non professionals same reason people prefer iphones.
Don’t use linux mint bro.. despite the looks and feel it’s actually kinda heavy.. try to use xubuntu or better yet debian vanilla with xfce, if you comparing the easy installation process with other linux distro and if you more familiar with ubuntu/debian command line, those two is the most recommended one..
The 2007 Mac mini can run up to 10.7 Lion
Sure, but this is 2006 Mac Mini
@@schvabek Ik
@@schvabek just saying about the 2007 model as I have a 2007 Mac mini
I'm also a teacher, so hello there fellow teacher and tech enthusiast XD. I teach English as a second language.
Cool
Imas li ti na nasem kanal ?
Nemam, razmišljao sam na početku kad sam krenuo s kanalom, ne znam bih li imao isti domet nažalost
Htio sam jednog ali nije odgovarao :)
@@borisvrdoljak9873 Hahaha nemoj me zezat 😂 Evo bar nije kod preprodavača završilo 😂
Max os is 10.6
It will only works great on linux don't lie to me
mac mini cluster anyone?