Seems to me this is likely bad wind sheer. That explains why it affects the gyro as well. The worst, most alarming feeling and dangerous type of turbulence. Holding the side bar helps keep you calm and thinking rationally while still flying, therefore good ADM. They should put it on a label. In case of extreme turbulence, squeeze here and repeat 3 x , I am still ok fly the aircraft..
@@HenryGyroLife From what I felt it was as if the front particularly was less aerodynamic, of course that was with a gutless 912 NOT the rocket you have 😀
I was told and cannot remember by whom that the wing loading on a gyro was the equivalent of a cessna 210 so stacks of wing coupled with the gyroscopic effect of 8 plus metres of rotors gives a gyro amazing stability. See spaffett videos
As Andrew said it must have been bad to affect the Gyro and be that uncomfortable - I've had a few occasions where I've felt it when flying over high ground or towards high ground and get either wind sheer or thermals or both - but never as bad as I used to get in my Light Sport Aircraft in similar conditions where we could get negative G and hit my head on the roof! We're back to flying in the UK Henry as the CAA lifted restrictions on leisure flying so hoping to get airborne again as soon as I can get my aircraft test flight done as it's just had its permit renewal.
Henry TrikeGyroLife Sorry... question was ambiguous maybe. I meant the EFIS/iPad/Garmin/other setup. Looks like a huge screen. Interested in what you've done. I'd ping you a pm but don't think you can from Ytube.
I see a lot of testimony from gyro pilots saying they switched from trikes because the gyros were way less affected by turbulence. Is that your experience as well? I love my Revolt, but I have to admit it sucks when I can’t fly mid day, because 90% of the time I’m available to fly is mid day.
AV8R Tom I have flown over 1300 hours in more than 10 years in my trikes.That’s one of the biggest reason that I started flying in my gyro. Most my trike friends fly 30 to 50 a year Most my gyro friends fly 150 to 250 hours year. I already did xc flight more than 250 miles in one leg, including high desert thermally place in the middle. Physical fatigue is no comparison between gyro and trike. I have already flown many places that I don’t even think about flying in my trike.
I am contemplating converting to gyro’s myself. Trike flying is becoming a heck of a workout for this old man. I just posted a video on my channel of my “conversion”. What fun! Both flights were in a Calidus in NZ.
I've flown my 2010 gyro in some appalling conditions (inadvertently of course) and you can let go of the stick she will detract from her course. By let go I mean just keep your hand around it but with no force. They are amazing aircraft.
Well, it was not too bad. But I can tell that you are not a pilot who deals with wind a lot. Your turn was with the wind instead of ito it. And a few other hints. At the end of the day, you decided to turn back and all good.
Oh well there are different type of turbulence. I don’t have any problem to have even 2000 FPM up and down with thermals in my gyro. What I experienced was strong wind sheer, which are sometime much worth than thermals.
2000 ft up and down? Yea no thanks in anything other than a glider. That’s serious and likely not something anyone would experience in Ohio. Glad about that!
If you feel some turbulence in a gyro, then it would be VERY bad in a trike. Well done Henry 👍
I bet you were glad that you were not in your trike!
Absolutely !!
Seems to me this is likely bad wind sheer. That explains why it affects the gyro as well. The worst, most alarming feeling and dangerous type of turbulence. Holding the side bar helps keep you calm and thinking rationally while still flying, therefore good ADM. They should put it on a label. In case of extreme turbulence, squeeze here and repeat 3 x , I am still ok fly the aircraft..
Actually, I take your advise, putting a label on the passenger seat.
I noticed when I had the MTO Sport 2017 that it reacted quite a bit more to headwinds and gusts far more than my MTO Sport 2010
I don’t know why. 2017 has more weight than 2010 and heavier on cyclic, these should help in turbulent condition. Do you agree ?
@@HenryGyroLife From what I felt it was as if the front particularly was less aerodynamic, of course that was with a gutless 912 NOT the rocket you have 😀
I was told and cannot remember by whom that the wing loading on a gyro was the equivalent of a cessna 210 so stacks of wing coupled with the gyroscopic effect of 8 plus metres of rotors gives a gyro amazing stability. See spaffett videos
I calculated roughly. Wing load is about 4 times of Cessna 210. 290kg/m2 vs 76kg/m2.
As Andrew said it must have been bad to affect the Gyro and be that uncomfortable - I've had a few occasions where I've felt it when flying over high ground or towards high ground and get either wind sheer or thermals or both - but never as bad as I used to get in my Light Sport Aircraft in similar conditions where we could get negative G and hit my head on the roof!
We're back to flying in the UK Henry as the CAA lifted restrictions on leisure flying so hoping to get airborne again as soon as I can get my aircraft test flight done as it's just had its permit renewal.
Jason R Wilkinson glad to hear that !!
Interested to know what that display is and how it's mounted. Can you make a cockpit tour clip? Thanks :-) Glad you made it home safe. Good decision!
I use 360 camera with a rod.
Henry TrikeGyroLife Sorry... question was ambiguous maybe. I meant the EFIS/iPad/Garmin/other setup. Looks like a huge screen. Interested in what you've done. I'd ping you a pm but don't think you can from Ytube.
sea wind and land wind
I see a lot of testimony from gyro pilots saying they switched from trikes because the gyros were way less affected by turbulence. Is that your experience as well? I love my Revolt, but I have to admit it sucks when I can’t fly mid day, because 90% of the time I’m available to fly is mid day.
AV8R Tom I have flown over 1300 hours in more than 10 years in my trikes.That’s one of the biggest reason that I started flying in my gyro. Most my trike friends fly 30 to 50 a year Most my gyro friends fly 150 to 250 hours year. I already did xc flight more than 250 miles in one leg, including high desert thermally place in the middle. Physical fatigue is no comparison between gyro and trike. I have already flown many places that I don’t even think about flying in my trike.
I cant figure out how you mounted or where you mounted your camera to capture this video. Were you doing some close formation flying with a drone ? :)
Non male come turbolenza...se la sente l’autogiro
Must be really bumpy then, gyros are usually good in choppy air?!?
You are right. They are relatively much better than trikes and small airplanes.
Might go flying this evening, depending on the winds
I am contemplating converting to gyro’s myself. Trike flying is becoming a heck of a workout for this old man. I just posted a video on my channel of my “conversion”. What fun! Both flights were in a Calidus in NZ.
I'm not young ether and that is one of the reason I started flying in gyro.
Henry TrikeGyroLife , still hoping to meet you when I’m out flying in Palmdale. The way the schedule works now is very different, not much spare time.
I've flown my 2010 gyro in some appalling conditions (inadvertently of course) and you can let go of the stick she will detract from her course. By let go I mean just keep your hand around it but with no force. They are amazing aircraft.
How the heck did you record this?
I have 20’ extension rod !!! Just teasing. 3’ rod and 360 camera on the tip.
@@HenryGyroLife Great video 👌
Well, it was not too bad. But I can tell that you are not a pilot who deals with wind a lot. Your turn was with the wind instead of ito it. And a few other hints. At the end of the day, you decided to turn back and all good.
That is hardly BAD turbulence, bad turbulence is a 1000 ft per minute up or down!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh well there are different type of turbulence. I don’t have any problem to have even 2000 FPM up and down with thermals in my gyro. What I experienced was strong wind sheer, which are sometime much worth than thermals.
2000 ft up and down?
Yea no thanks in anything other than a glider.
That’s serious and likely not something anyone would experience in Ohio.
Glad about that!
Jeff Harrison I encountered near 2000 in and down in my trike in high desert in Arizona. I was flying 10,000 to 11,000 MSL.