Top Gear For Gyros 2 - Gyroplanes Explained

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  • Опубликовано: 15 окт 2024
  • In 2011 the video "Top Gear for Gyroplanes" was released, it shows just how much fun you can have in a Gyroplane, and how safe they are to fly.
    In "Top Gear for Gyros 2 - Gyroplanes Explained", Phil Harwood substantiates many of the claims made in the original video and explains, in a simple and entertaining style, the basics of why a Gyroplane is inherently stable, doesn't really feel turbulence, and how they can fly even though the rotor is not powered by the engine.
    It's fun, it's informative, it answers many of the questions that people have about Gyroplanes.

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  • @roberthutchings5669
    @roberthutchings5669 7 лет назад +51

    I have watch hundreds of gyrocopter videos and fill this the only guy that really explains and get you interested in gyrocopter flying

    • @randypemberton3387
      @randypemberton3387 5 лет назад +1

      Robert Hutchings He is the best teacher of the nuts and bolts of flying as well as maintaining the aircraft...
      If I EVER find out how to make a couple extra hundred grand to put towards my dream, I will owe him a debt of gratitude for helping to keep my grandiose dream of flying my gyro alive ...
      Thanks for the LIFT🧐

    • @marcus3d
      @marcus3d 5 лет назад +2

      He didn't explain much of anything here. Everything was dumbed down to the point of nonsense and waved away with a "you don't have to think about how it works". Thanks, but I came to this video to learn how it works, and this really unfunny guy didn't help me at all.

  • @garysmitherman
    @garysmitherman 7 лет назад +20

    Phil for a person with no experience of flying a gyro I found this very interesting and fun. Now I need to win the lottery.

    • @houstonhelicoptertours1006
      @houstonhelicoptertours1006 4 года назад

      Autogyros aren't THAT expensive. Some kits start at well under $20k.

    • @beagle5
      @beagle5 3 года назад

      @@houstonhelicoptertours1006 Try getting a Licence ? in how many hours ?? 70 before solo ,in many cases.

  • @nuttysquirrel8574
    @nuttysquirrel8574 7 лет назад +2

    THE MAN, who has done more to advance Autogyro flying in UK (Europe?) over the past decade than any other. Well Done, Phil, another great entertaining, informative, video. My privilege to have met you at a Rufforth fly-in. Keep up the great work in enlightening the world on Autogyros!

  • @johnnytopp922
    @johnnytopp922 5 лет назад +2

    Thank you Phil, for the entertaining and informative lessons of gyro flight! As many of the vids I've seen on this wonderful form of flight have increased the interest, and taught me a thing or two about it, yours had me smiling, give a chuckle or two and most of all, got my heart racing and increased my yearning for such an exhilarating form of flight. Thank you so much for posting these videos. It really helps promote and educate the people about the joys of the safest form of flight. The advancement sure has progressed over the ages. From the original Benson back in the mid '60's to today, especially the last 8-10 years, technology has greatly increased the look and excitement of such a simple design of flight. Why it took so long for the mass's interest in it, I may never understand. But regardless, I am thankful for the progress

  • @ikay2102
    @ikay2102 7 лет назад +2

    Thanks to Phil i watched both of his videos and DID find gyro i wanted and got proper training. Cant think of anyone else in UK who is so excited to promote this awesome sport. Thanks Phil.

  • @johnnagle7542
    @johnnagle7542 7 лет назад +20

    Phil Harwood is the MAN! Thanks for spreading gyro love!

  • @wisencareful4645
    @wisencareful4645 2 года назад

    Hey Phil / Gary from Australia here ! Fondly remember my flight with you in the UK it made my holiday complete years ago.
    Since stroke the Drs won’t allow me to fly yet
    Still ever hopeful …. Loved this video as saw the field again
    Safe flying ol son Best from Oz 👍🏾👍🏾

  • @arnoldanderson1501
    @arnoldanderson1501 4 года назад

    Simply the best explanation and most interesting introduction to gyro plane instructions on RUclips. Thanks Phil.

  • @SeanGriffin-h6v
    @SeanGriffin-h6v Год назад

    will have to learn. you make the gyro so pleasurable and you have a great tutorial presence. purchased your gyro pilots hand book, thanks for pointing me in the right direction.

  • @RonWylie-gk5lc
    @RonWylie-gk5lc 5 лет назад +1

    This should be on TV, it is a beautifully made video

  • @philquantrill674
    @philquantrill674 5 лет назад

    Absolutely bloody marvelous. Your mix of information, humour and graphics leave me wanting to know more, much more. Thank you Phil, I am beginning my training in France, and once hopefully once I pass, I will look for an hour or two training with a GB pilot just to "smooth the edges" as I did with my flexwing licence. When I do, it is on you I hope to call.

  • @Rommmm
    @Rommmm 7 лет назад +6

    Great! now I want to learn to fly one of these !

  • @niladrimukherjee2098
    @niladrimukherjee2098 2 года назад

    The best explannatory gyrocopter video ever posted on U tube . Answered a very important beneficial affect ofvturbulence on gyros. Gonna buy one the day I have enough money to own one.

  • @JackerNo2
    @JackerNo2 5 лет назад +1

    What a top bloke! I really enjoy watching his tutorial videos, he has a first class way of getting the info through to us students...nice one Phil

  • @jamesgauson4057
    @jamesgauson4057 6 лет назад +2

    I enjoyed the video Phil, it's great to see these things flying, it looks like great fun.

  • @RonWylie-gk5lc
    @RonWylie-gk5lc 3 года назад

    Just waiting for 6 numbers and Im all in!. Dr Phil, If your show was on TV they would sell millions upon millions of these amazing little aircraft, I was in love with the Gyroplane when I first ever saw one, thanks for making wonderfully entertaining little shows

  • @byronroberts3801
    @byronroberts3801 4 года назад

    First information I've ever learned about gyroplanes. I think I'm in love

  • @toney5043
    @toney5043 7 лет назад +1

    Phil, you covered the basics very well done. Thanks and keep up the GREAT work.

  • @siggyuke
    @siggyuke Год назад

    Fabulous video! Best I've come across - informative, humorous and really good production.
    Are you still operating (asking as your video was 3 years ago)?
    I'm based in portugal and looking into the possibility of learning to fly - dont suppose you have any contacts for over here?

  • @ozziepilot2899
    @ozziepilot2899 5 лет назад

    Brilliant explanation , entertaining too. You have got me thinking about Gyros now (as a fixed wing pilot those wind gusts you discuss really hammer us)

  • @peredavi
    @peredavi 4 года назад

    Very entertaining and informative! Getting my autogyro rating in Texas spring 2021.

  • @hugebartlett1884
    @hugebartlett1884 5 лет назад

    So gratifying to see Cierva's dream come true at last. He knew what was needed,but at the time technology,and public indifference,and possibly hostility,just made precision control unattainable. A new generation of people are coming to enjoy flying themselves as fun,and of course,far more cheaply and easily than helicopter ability.

  • @thepieman4398
    @thepieman4398 4 года назад

    Phil is as mad as a box of frogs but the go to guy when it comes to Gyros. Great stuff Phil and thanks for the video

  • @markhull1366
    @markhull1366 4 года назад

    RUclips metrics recommended this channel. For once, I'm not disappointed. I Love this guy! Anyone else think that he sounds like Star Trek's Mr. Scott teaching about gyros? Thumbs up for me!

  • @FMDful
    @FMDful 2 года назад

    Спасибо, ФИЛ! Я прекрасно провел с тобой время и стал уверенно разбираться в теории полетов автожира.👍👏 From Russia with love

  • @BeyondWrittenWords
    @BeyondWrittenWords 7 лет назад +9

    Gyro's are the future flying cars. Too much air traffic regulations spoil this fun, though.

    • @houstonhelicoptertours1006
      @houstonhelicoptertours1006 4 года назад +1

      The idea of the "personal aircraft" was ogled since the 1930s, yet nothing practical has ever manifested. Every ultralight, every gyrocopter, every real helicopter or plane needs training to operate, regular maintenance and comes with running costs...often more than the average Joe is willing to invest, time/money-wise.

  • @stuartpagelane9823
    @stuartpagelane9823 4 года назад

    At last somebody explaining how the kite stays up. and not just flogging a book. Thank you Phil.

  • @finjay21fj
    @finjay21fj Год назад

    You cover things usually missed as other presenters assume ppl already know. You cover it all thankfully, simply, yet in detail and with humour and a mutual enthusiasm you share with your viewers - ❤️🥇🏆🚁

    • @ppharwood
      @ppharwood  Год назад

      Thank you. Glad you enjoyed it. Phil

  • @johnburrows4711
    @johnburrows4711 5 лет назад +1

    Excellent!!! Really informative....Superb job Sir!!

  • @63snampook
    @63snampook 5 лет назад +1

    Thumbs up !!! Very well explained, with a nice touch of humor !! That's the way !!! Big thanks !!!

  • @spoolyanddanalixdnb
    @spoolyanddanalixdnb 5 лет назад

    This is one of those gems on youtube.

  • @whatever07904
    @whatever07904 7 лет назад +4

    Great video buddy, more please, much more!!!

  • @mdaydj
    @mdaydj 6 лет назад +1

    Great video Phil Thanks a million for the inspiration that has led me to an amazing time in Gyros

  • @BigFiveJack
    @BigFiveJack 5 лет назад +1

    Very informative video. Quite beneficial to those of us considering flying instruction.

  • @inspirationandaviation938
    @inspirationandaviation938 3 года назад

    Thank you Phil for this video.

  • @scottdenard7554
    @scottdenard7554 5 лет назад

    Ok Dr. Phill I have a somewhat strange question I think you might know the answer to. I am a heavy man (OK FAT) and if a gyro in in experimental class maximum weight of 1320 lbs and has a useful load of 600 lbs and is tandem. In order to fly it I am assuming the CG for the gyro with me as a pilot and a copilot with full fuel would be forward of cg limitations. So here is the question if it is forward can one not have a curved longer mast to move the mast forward and upward to keep rotor in the same alignment as the original mast giving the prop proper clearance therefore moving the fulcrum point forward to a new cg? I understand of course you would have to adjust the line of thrust appropriately.

  • @eansugarman4675
    @eansugarman4675 5 лет назад +1

    Great Video Phil, very inspiring and informative!

  • @ericswild
    @ericswild 4 года назад

    Your attitude is infectious !! Take me flying!!

  • @rosie121000
    @rosie121000 5 лет назад +1

    Excellent video had a chance to fly with Rodger Savage loved it 👍

  • @Echobike01
    @Echobike01 7 лет назад

    thanks Phil, 👍 i am graciously requesting you do a full video on how and why a gyro handles turbulence better than most aircraft ! i know you touched on it here , but a complete and full understanding of how this works will vastly improve sales and transitions to gyro's ( well thats my belief) .
    cheers .

    • @garywilliams4953
      @garywilliams4953 6 лет назад +1

      Greg I once owned an RV6 which was fast and in the summer in Oz you could hit your head on the roof in turbulence.. I bought a R44 some years later which the wife loved because in strong turbulence it simply wagged its tail. Why? Maybe the FULL explanation is for someone else but it is simply the size of the "wing" which rotates and the ROTOR DISC area which is much smaller than a full wing (maybe the loading is much higher) .
      I have migrated to maybe the Eclipse by ELA than the R44 simply because the hourly operating cost is about 10% in comparison to a R44.

    • @Echobike01
      @Echobike01 5 лет назад

      @@garywilliams4953 thanks Gary, great reply 👍

  • @LeeRoyJenkz
    @LeeRoyJenkz 7 лет назад

    Awesome video! Gets me really excited about gyros. However, what isn't awesome about them is the useful load / cross country capability. Only seat two people and have no cargo room. Are there limitations to these? If not why isn't anyone building them?

  • @InfusedBiker
    @InfusedBiker 7 лет назад

    The best video!! Excellent explanation. Not as complicated as I was led to believe.

  • @john.pereyra
    @john.pereyra 5 лет назад

    I love your video. Makes me want to learn how to fly a gyrocopter

  • @HTI4711
    @HTI4711 4 года назад

    Hey Phil..... where do you school and how much cash and time is necessary to fly...? Many thanks....

  • @explorewithbunty
    @explorewithbunty 5 лет назад

    i really want to know more about gyros , your video is great .good work keep doing it.....

  • @RonWylie-gk5lc
    @RonWylie-gk5lc 5 лет назад

    I would pay to watch these, so professional and educational, in a way I'm glad he is not on tv, the skies would be full

  • @koihoshi
    @koihoshi 4 года назад

    I never really understood fully how a gyroplane worked until watching this. And now I basically want one.

  • @misters2837
    @misters2837 4 года назад

    Thank You for using Decent Music... And the Gyro-Education!

  • @buldogaero6183
    @buldogaero6183 6 лет назад

    learning on the gyro ,after 31 hours, and 1 and a half years, I feel like giving up. I have been fortunately to be in a position to fly as much as possible, yet my Instructor says ,it will be too much . o.k so if I find that, I can slow up. I am frustrated that there is no light at the end of the tunnel. On fixed wing I felt I was continually moving on. I appreciate its a different machine, and I am doing well .So any reasons ? why I cannot keep moving instead of I hour up and sit around for 3 hrs? At least with fixed wing it was ! hour up and chat about the flight on the ground ,and one understood more. Any Advice please? Wish you were my Instructor.

  • @ChrisJONES-qz7mv
    @ChrisJONES-qz7mv 7 лет назад +1

    Well done Phil, another excellent video.

  • @novavroomvroom2979
    @novavroomvroom2979 5 лет назад

    Thank you for making the video fun to watch.... You've caught my attention.... keep up the good work and awesome videos and explanation...

  • @yuehhtewbb427
    @yuehhtewbb427 5 лет назад

    In terms of balance, does the gyro need to be balanced front to back? If so it could explain the unpopularity, since it couldn't carry large loads.

  • @gregvos8599
    @gregvos8599 2 года назад

    What a beautiful and informative video 👌

  • @davidtwomey138
    @davidtwomey138 3 года назад

    hey phil want too fly these machines im in ireland . will travel 2 the uk just want know where i can learn with a view too buyin my own ?

  • @60stedman
    @60stedman 7 лет назад +1

    FANTASTIC, FUN & INFORMATIVE TOO!

  • @austinoverheaddoorcompanyb1058
    @austinoverheaddoorcompanyb1058 5 лет назад

    Definite someone i could learn from. very entertaining

  • @roberthutchings5669
    @roberthutchings5669 7 лет назад +1

    Phil I am messaging you from across the pond in Newfoundland how safe is a gyrocopter with a novice pilot

  • @RosssRoyce
    @RosssRoyce 5 лет назад

    Short take off and landing roll distances, stability, compact size... sounds so nice :D Really want to try this! Only there’s no gyro in my club :( The only occasion that I think I’d prefer in a plane is a bird strike to the blade, you don’t want to lose that blade and a plane with a hole in the wing still flies. I wonder what is the strength of the blade material, they look like graphite or fiberglass but I’m sure that the centrifugal force rigidifies them?

  • @bryankirk3567
    @bryankirk3567 7 лет назад +5

    An extremely good presentation of the basics of aerodynamics for 'DUNDERHEADS'

  • @cadidiot_101
    @cadidiot_101 4 года назад

    Excuse me while I present this to my adviser for aeronautical engineering. I'd like to learn as much as I can and maybe get into the development some day

  • @kentwilliams4152
    @kentwilliams4152 4 года назад

    I understand that if one is nearing a stall and pushes the joystick forward as one would do in a fixed wing A/C that it can cause a crash. So, I am wondering what one should do in that circumstance or is it best to do nothing?

  • @alexandervanwyk7669
    @alexandervanwyk7669 5 лет назад

    Dr Phil
    I really had to get one. How can I go about? I only have hang glider experience. Needs training and a license. I am ready NOW Can i get a good one for about R400k (20 to 30k Euros)?

  • @z_actual
    @z_actual 4 года назад

    I think this video has some very positive technical aspects to contribute,
    that said it is very badly let down by utterly stupid unnecessary loud music and equally distracting unnecessary video effects.
    I could add that perhaps a pressure distribution diagram of an airfoil might have helped assist the viewer envisage why an airfoil would proceed forward to hold the rotor in autorotation.

  • @pannekoekster
    @pannekoekster 4 года назад

    That put a big smile on my face for the day. 😁

  • @skylinevspec000
    @skylinevspec000 5 лет назад +3

    I hate it when videos dont have normalised music to voice.. good vid tho

  • @Sterlingjob
    @Sterlingjob 7 лет назад +5

    The only thing the freaks me out is the size of the bolt that holds the rotor on...and there's only one of them!!

    • @garywilliams4953
      @garywilliams4953 6 лет назад +2

      Yep put when you find out how much stress they can take it gives you a cuddle. Factory build certified machines have gone through all the tests to ensure it stays together

    • @trickcyclists
      @trickcyclists 5 лет назад +2

      Yep, like the 'Jesus' bolt in a flexwing.. scarey.
      .

    • @jonathancallender8185
      @jonathancallender8185 5 лет назад

      Most of them are using a bushing over the bolt that is lubricated so the bushing and bolt would have to fail. Additionally the bolt is in shear in two locations like a hitch pin in a receiver.

  • @DarrenGenge
    @DarrenGenge 5 лет назад +1

    great videos! you explain perfectly!

  • @steveholt8991
    @steveholt8991 7 лет назад

    Hi, gyroplanes are great devices. One question: An auto-rotator spins the rotors up to a speed that allows a short takeoff. Why don't they spin the rotors up to takeoff speed so they can take off vertically ?

    • @leneanderthalien
      @leneanderthalien 6 лет назад

      A "jumping" gyro need a specific rotor with heawy blades (for inertia) and pitch control, and a powerfull pre -launcher...this all is very expansive...

  • @workski2
    @workski2 5 лет назад

    Wonderful video Dude. Loved it.

  • @beagle5
    @beagle5 3 года назад

    What then does it take to get a licence, I know some that have not got solo until around 70 hours ,licence around 85 up to 100 hours, why is this so? if the hours are around 45 hours, on the course . plus if fixed wing Less hours ,Yet some still do not get to solo until around 70 hours. Please explain ?

  • @clarencehopkins7832
    @clarencehopkins7832 2 года назад

    Excellent stuff bro

  • @tomkitchen2764
    @tomkitchen2764 4 года назад

    Does the blade go clockwise or anticlockwise?

  • @tangopapajuliet9469
    @tangopapajuliet9469 5 лет назад

    He makes it fun. Good video, Need more info before I try it.

  • @ganisercanozkilic5607
    @ganisercanozkilic5607 7 месяцев назад

    Best explanation ever. No on online explained better.

  • @nitevisionimages
    @nitevisionimages 7 лет назад +1

    This video wins the internet

  • @vijayakumarkona443
    @vijayakumarkona443 7 лет назад +1

    sir can make a video on main rotar attachment in gyro copter regarding bearing and placement of rotar wings on cyclic

    • @ianfryer1967
      @ianfryer1967 6 лет назад +1

      You just could not get a better ambassador for the gyrocopter!

  • @johnsweda2999
    @johnsweda2999 4 года назад

    Why don't they have winglets on the blades. Can you buy the the gyro mechanism and who is the best, and I make my own frame I was thinking of VW Beetle 1800cc engine air-cooled would be a good choice or not thinking of cost thanks some DIY kits out there

    • @sourkraut6248
      @sourkraut6248 4 года назад

      Look up "Experimental Aircraft Association"...... THEN seek out the rotorcraft folks. You will NOT be disappointed.... I am a 40 year addict.........

  • @garyjones7198
    @garyjones7198 5 лет назад

    Phil does your company sell a gyro with jump start capabilities?

  • @ronechols
    @ronechols 5 лет назад

    Best explanation ever! Great job!

  • @harlanroeser7546
    @harlanroeser7546 4 года назад

    Wow! My dream is to fly & this is how I can do it Thanks.

  • @50pence59
    @50pence59 5 лет назад

    Brilliantly done, sir. 👍

  • @xboxice2005
    @xboxice2005 6 лет назад +2

    Oh man that was very entertaining 😎👌

  • @williamgrimberg7722
    @williamgrimberg7722 4 года назад

    For windy days, just make sure you have plenty of altitude for any down wind turns to keep your forward lift . This where people have died in these aircrafts.

  • @gerhardmeier3361
    @gerhardmeier3361 7 лет назад +1

    Hey Phil - I like your videos - simply "philomenal"

  • @aky19832001
    @aky19832001 5 лет назад

    What if you have a bird strike and it damages the blades? Can It still glide down?

    • @yuehhtewbb427
      @yuehhtewbb427 5 лет назад

      Yes, the rotor would induce vibration though.

  • @gobstoppa1633
    @gobstoppa1633 5 лет назад

    awesome phill the fantastic, brilliant teacher method,mint, top man.

  • @piccolizei
    @piccolizei 6 лет назад +1

    Hello Phil
    Very good presentation. I love both the real model that reduces and precisely in the video I see a pretty little models that I do not know, can you say more. 5:45 / 15:18
    thank you very much
    Jerome

  • @AUCTIONCAT2011
    @AUCTIONCAT2011 5 лет назад

    Ok you have me hooked.
    Is there a two seat version I could put floats on and then switch back to wheels?

    • @bluesnjax9134
      @bluesnjax9134 4 года назад

      Sport Copter can do that. Great safety reputation also.

  • @DrivingwithGloves
    @DrivingwithGloves 5 лет назад

    Very funny. I enjoyed watching this video!

  • @JohnnyMentat
    @JohnnyMentat 6 лет назад +2

    Great video!

  • @flfun2no
    @flfun2no 5 лет назад

    How do the blades start spinning up to speed like the cavalon does before the craft is in forward motion if the rotor doesn't receive power?

    • @RoadRunnerLaser
      @RoadRunnerLaser 5 лет назад

      Because modern autogyros actually DO have powered rotors. Just prior to the take-off roll, the "pre-rotation" button is pressed which uses engine power to spin up the rotors. Once the rotors are spun up, the pre-rotation is disengaged and the take-off roll can begin. From this point on, the rotors are not powered but autorotating. As airspeed increases, there should be an increase in rotor-speed and subsequently, lift. Pre-rotation shortens the take-off roll considerably.

    • @flfun2no
      @flfun2no 5 лет назад

      @@RoadRunnerLaser Thank you for the explanation it makes sense!

  • @8180634
    @8180634 5 лет назад

    Is it possible to do something silly and cause the main rotor to stall? Turn too hard, let your airspeed drop too low, etc..?

    • @jonathancallender8185
      @jonathancallender8185 5 лет назад

      If you unload the rotor they lose rotor speed and that’s dangerous. Think front flip. If you just keep that in mind they won’t stall ever. You can do back flips safe though. Xenon gyroplane has some cool acrobatic flights on RUclips that would demonstrate what they can.

  • @garywilliams4953
    @garywilliams4953 6 лет назад +1

    Im like a fat kid in a lolly shop at the moment on a mission to but a GYRO and set up a training school at parafield when I have the satisfactory amount of hours.(past CFI experience) Looking at two options the ELA eclipse canopy on or off is the attraction. I will house it at Parafield and fly in controlled airspace down the coast on a Sunday morning topless. Ace checked airservices and they say. "Come on down" Or maybe the MTO sports 2017 as a trainer. Decision decisions. PHIL is an excellent presenter, funny as hell, and an all round passionate guy.
    The Gyro has come of age

    • @johnnytopp922
      @johnnytopp922 5 лет назад

      It was long overdue but so glad that I am alive now that it has.

  • @PortugalCarp
    @PortugalCarp 7 лет назад +3

    Another great video. Thanks #PhilHarwood

  • @yysnet888
    @yysnet888 5 лет назад

    In the UK this hobbie with gyro have nearly been killed by the regulators as most of them thinking it unsafe, despite that for autogyros it have a better low speed response and safer when engine fails.

  • @kurtjensen7264
    @kurtjensen7264 5 лет назад

    Jolly good job old boy

  • @jasetheace71
    @jasetheace71 4 года назад

    Was thinking of buying a nice sports-bike/motorbike....this looks like so much more fun..☺

  • @technerdian
    @technerdian 5 лет назад

    I have got to get me one of these!

  • @dukejet6997
    @dukejet6997 5 лет назад

    Great video Phil!!! Had me pissing myself laughing. I love that enthusiasm mate, makes me want to fly!!

  • @hakanbalci2302
    @hakanbalci2302 6 лет назад

    Hi Phil Harwood. this video the bets gyro video l have ever seen. l feel myself luck to meet you. l love gyro as you. and l decided make a homemade gyro in my garage. but l need your help. ıf you answer my qestions l will be wery hapy.
    1: l have a rotor blade which measurment is: 3.50 m. X 18 mm. is it enouhg for one seat gyrocopter or not?
    2: Blade angle problem. HAVE AN ANGLE IN THE MAIN ROTOR BLADES ? HOW MANY DEGREE: degree1.95, degree 1.85,degree??????? or degree 2......???????
    thanks for help