The liner was traditionally suede or thin leather. It helped to protect hand from minor incursions of the opponent's blade edge and sometimes point between the bars of the basket. The basket was actively employed in parrying. Not all Scottish basket hilted swords had liners.
I've heard from a fellow I respect that originally the red lining was cut from the coats of their enemies. I can see coming up against a fellow who was using parts of my comrades clothing as a rag being intimidating.
Also heard that the color red was to mask the blood if the hand was to get hit through the Guard. If the enemy sees blood then it usually gives motivation for the attacker to keep fighting. If it's normally red then there is no motivation.
They also used a Targe shield for protection as well not only for musket fire but also for one to one sword fighting as well some had a sharp point in the middle of the shield to stab the enemy and also had the Dirk as well in the same hand as the shield to gain more of the advantage over the enemy when using the basket hilt broadsword, which also the red leather thing in the hilt of the sword not only to protect the hand but also make it more comfortable for the person who uses it in battle.
The basket lining isn't there to "hide your had", it's there to protect your hand from contact with the basket. (you kind of say this later on) Hiding the hand serves no tactical purpose, as evidenced by most swords. This Hanwei sword by the way is a beautiful sword, I own one. One nice feature on the scabbard is the metal "clip". This is intended to slide into a small hole on the frog of a baldric to keep the sword/scabbard in place.
I was gonna say the same thing it serves no purpose to hide the hand. The hand doesn't do anything but hold the sword. Now weather and masking of blood serves more of a purpose then hiding it
The red is likely to be decorative. I understand that period examples often had a leather inner lining to protect the hand as well. I think the cream backing material is meant to represent the leather lining. If you consider that when this style of sword first appeared, slashed clothing was fashionable. Slashed clothing would have a contrasting colour piece of clothing worn underneath to show off the slashes. The basket with its pierced decoration would be the same. Some of the baskets are quite intricate so having a backing cloth to show off the detail makes sense. Red was a common colour worn by highland gentleman.
Catubrannos when the jacobites fought the red coats (the English) when they killed the officers they used to rip there jackets and put it in the guard to scare them when in battle
The basket was mainly a guard for the hand. The Blade was the weapon and was only sharpened from halfway up to the tip. Cutting/Stabbing opponents with the first half and bludgeoning with the second half. Plus up close, punching with the basket.
Your best bet is to ask around and review other peoples swords. Once you are happy with a particular style, you can specialise in that. I would be happy to show you some real swords, so there is plenty of fun to be had my friend.
You guys have way too much fun at work lol. Nice sword too! BTW I have heard that on some older ones the liner was thick leather under the red coating and was intended to help resist thrusts going thru the gaps...
I think my only question is that for the hanging hook on the back of the scabbard. Could the sword be turned around in the scabbard that way it's on the side of the hanging hook?
You can see them hanging up on the walls in Edinburgh castle. Some have a bright red hand cover like that one, others have a darker burgundy sort of hue. Those are the ones that are still stained with blood. I would like to add that the hand guard is not simply protection. It can really devastate a man's hansom features, and they did that a lot.
The lining of the basket hilt would most often have been made from buff leather, which is really tough, but also incredibly expensive, since it's such an esoteric type of leather for a tannery to make. Which is also why you'll almost never se repro manufacturers using buff leather (the correct leather) when making Slade & Wallace pattern webbing, sticking to smoother variants of leather.
I haven't watched this channel in a couple of months, but I really like how the reviews have become more relaxed and casual. Also, will you review the Cold Steel Polish Sabre? I know you get a lot of requests for different sword reviews, but I'll really look forward to when you do a sabre review.
Thanks very much ! I like to keep them transparent and simple. I'll see what I can do. I'll tell you from handling that one it's a nice agile sabre and that's not how all of theirs are made, some are clunky and heavy ''choppers''.
Wonderful and spectacular swords. I don't have this exact model but they're all just so lovely. You guys should do a review on one of your many schiavonas! :D
the fabric is really more to protect your hand against the steel basket, as said in the video the basket is very tight and the bare steel against your hand would be a bit more uncomfortable
@@shaundouglas2057 yeah, i get where he got the idea from but he obviously doesnt know much about baskethilts or how to use them judging by the weird guards he shows 🤔 but the sword is a good one.
Thank you for calling it what it is. I own the Cold Steel version and it is a very good sword. The basket could also be used in close quarters to smash some one in the face. Any ways, as a man who wears a Kilt its a good sword. P.S. The Basket Hilt was actually invented in Germany then brought back to Scotland by smiths who trained in Germany. P.P.S. I also have big hands but the Cold Steel Basket Hilt Scottish Broadsword, the basket fits nicely, and my hand does not rub.
No the lining was not a distraction thing or to hide your hand, that assumption is plain weird. It was so your knuckles and fingers would not be getting grazed inside the basket, as some baskets could be a tight fit around some hands.
i live in scotland, one of the people that i went to pipe band with had an original one of these swords used in combat around thw year 1813 and she wore it when she marched with the band
The Hanwei Broadsword is a bit too unbalanced, the blade bit too long and heavy in comparison with the size of the Basket-hilt (which is quite small, so bigger hands have a problem). It still is a nice sword and better than others mass-produced scottish swords on the market. Some examples of the historical Broadswords which I had in hand, were similar, quite long, quite heavy and the basket-hilt surprisingly small. A good weapon to have the Targe as a companion. For a single weapon, I would recommend the Hanwei Backsword, which is much lighter and better balanced and nicely made. Although the prices for Hanwei went up in the sky like a rocket to the moon over the last 10 years.
This sword is not for using to fight with or attack plastic bottles . It's a show piece. These swords you are showing are show pieces Education in weapons is what you need
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The liner was traditionally suede or thin leather. It helped to protect hand from minor incursions of the opponent's blade edge and sometimes point between the bars of the basket. The basket was actively employed in parrying. Not all Scottish basket hilted swords had liners.
I've heard from a fellow I respect that originally the red lining was cut from the coats of their enemies. I can see coming up against a fellow who was using parts of my comrades clothing as a rag being intimidating.
justanothajoe yes finally someone mentioned that yeah that's true I'm Scottish
Also heard that the color red was to mask the blood if the hand was to get hit through the Guard. If the enemy sees blood then it usually gives motivation for the attacker to keep fighting. If it's normally red then there is no motivation.
They also used a Targe shield for protection as well not only for musket fire but also for one to one sword fighting as well some had a sharp point in the middle of the shield to stab the enemy and also had the Dirk as well in the same hand as the shield to gain more of the advantage over the enemy when using the basket hilt broadsword, which also the red leather thing in the hilt of the sword not only to protect the hand but also make it more comfortable for the person who uses it in battle.
The basket lining isn't there to "hide your had", it's there to protect your hand from contact with the basket. (you kind of say this later on) Hiding the hand serves no tactical purpose, as evidenced by most swords. This Hanwei sword by the way is a beautiful sword, I own one. One nice feature on the scabbard is the metal "clip". This is intended to slide into a small hole on the frog of a baldric to keep the sword/scabbard in place.
Worth the cost? I've been meaning to get a basket sword
I was gonna say the same thing it serves no purpose to hide the hand. The hand doesn't do anything but hold the sword. Now weather and masking of blood serves more of a purpose then hiding it
The red is likely to be decorative. I understand that period examples often had a leather inner lining to protect the hand as well. I think the cream backing material is meant to represent the leather lining.
If you consider that when this style of sword first appeared, slashed clothing was fashionable. Slashed clothing would have a contrasting colour piece of clothing worn underneath to show off the slashes. The basket with its pierced decoration would be the same. Some of the baskets are quite intricate so having a backing cloth to show off the detail makes sense.
Red was a common colour worn by highland gentleman.
It's also pretty comfortable :)
Catubrannos when the jacobites fought the red coats (the English) when they killed the officers they used to rip there jackets and put it in the guard to scare them when in battle
If you know anything about Scottish weather, you would know that the glove was to stop your hand freezing and sticking to the hilt.
Then you must not know Scottish weather because a Scot would never worry about the cold. He's tougher then the cold. The cold is scared of him. 😉
The basket was mainly a guard for the hand. The Blade was the weapon and was only sharpened from halfway up to the tip. Cutting/Stabbing opponents with the first half and bludgeoning with the second half. Plus up close, punching with the basket.
very cool, i would love to see the SH2003 Hanwei Scottish Basket Hilt Backsword.
Wish I could afford more swords. I'd love to test and review them myself.
Your best bet is to ask around and review other peoples swords. Once you are happy with a particular style, you can specialise in that. I would be happy to show you some real swords, so there is plenty of fun to be had my friend.
Save up, get one, then do a review.
@@erichusayn But DO NOT waste your money on a hanwei sword.
@@shaundouglas2057 hahahaha. I learned that lesson quite some time ago. Got a real lemon of a raptor.
You guys have way too much fun at work lol. Nice sword too!
BTW I have heard that on some older ones the liner was thick leather under the red coating and was intended to help resist thrusts going thru the gaps...
it's also more confortable to have the pading when your fighting in cold weather so your hand doesn't touch the cold metal
I think my only question is that for the hanging hook on the back of the scabbard. Could the sword be turned around in the scabbard that way it's on the side of the hanging hook?
You can see them hanging up on the walls in Edinburgh castle. Some have a bright red hand cover like that one, others have a darker burgundy sort of hue. Those are the ones that are still stained with blood. I would like to add that the hand guard is not simply protection. It can really devastate a man's hansom features, and they did that a lot.
Shlami Mk4 I saw those too at Edinburgh castle, what a coincidence! I saw one's from the 18th century near the battlefield of Colluden.
The lining of the basket hilt would most often have been made from buff leather, which is really tough, but also incredibly expensive, since it's such an esoteric type of leather for a tannery to make. Which is also why you'll almost never se repro manufacturers using buff leather (the correct leather) when making Slade & Wallace pattern webbing, sticking to smoother variants of leather.
please review the Hanwei Revolutionary War Hanger.
I haven't watched this channel in a couple of months, but I really like how the reviews have become more relaxed and casual.
Also, will you review the Cold Steel Polish Sabre? I know you get a lot of requests for different sword reviews, but I'll really look forward to when you do a sabre review.
Thanks very much ! I like to keep them transparent and simple. I'll see what I can do. I'll tell you from handling that one it's a nice agile sabre and that's not how all of theirs are made, some are clunky and heavy ''choppers''.
Wonderful and spectacular swords. I don't have this exact model but they're all just so lovely.
You guys should do a review on one of your many schiavonas! :D
I would love to see some more reviews on Wulflund swords.
This month you will !
That is a beautiful sword, but would have preferred to see the backsword version.
are you going to review that wulflund sword?
Yup!
heck yeah!
the fabric is really more to protect your hand against the steel basket, as said in the video the basket is very tight and the bare steel against your hand would be a bit more uncomfortable
Exactly
To hide the hand and a distraction to your opponant? Not certain how he came up with that weird assumption.
@@shaundouglas2057 yeah, i get where he got the idea from but he obviously doesnt know much about baskethilts or how to use them judging by the weird guards he shows 🤔 but the sword is a good one.
Thank you for calling it what it is. I own the Cold Steel version and it is a very good sword. The basket could also be used in close quarters to smash some one in the face. Any ways, as a man who wears a Kilt its a good sword. P.S. The Basket Hilt was actually invented in Germany then brought back to Scotland by smiths who trained in Germany. P.P.S. I also have big hands but the Cold Steel Basket Hilt Scottish Broadsword, the basket fits nicely, and my hand does not rub.
Is this sword full tang? Does the metal from the blade connect and run through the full length of the handle?
It’s a full tang with a threaded pommel. Plenty durable for normal sword use. A peened pommel would be more traditional though.
do you work for Kult of Athena?
CHUNKYNUGGET666 yes
No the lining was not a distraction thing or to hide your hand, that assumption is plain weird. It was so your knuckles and fingers would not be getting grazed inside the basket, as some baskets could be a tight fit around some hands.
The handguard is clearly there to protect your hand, that's consistent across virtually every blade fighting culture that's every existed.
@@kultofathena6217 Well Duh! I'm talking about the lining inside the hand guard.
very nice very interesting
I need more!
Went all highlander at the end
i live in scotland, one of the people that i went to pipe band with had an original one of these swords used in combat around thw year 1813 and she wore it when she marched with the band
There can be only one
The Hanwei Broadsword is a bit too unbalanced, the blade bit too long and heavy in comparison with the size of the Basket-hilt (which is quite small, so bigger hands have a problem). It still is a nice sword and better than others mass-produced scottish swords on the market. Some examples of the historical Broadswords which I had in hand, were similar, quite long, quite heavy and the basket-hilt surprisingly small. A good weapon to have the Targe as a companion. For a single weapon, I would recommend the Hanwei Backsword, which is much lighter and better balanced and nicely made. Although the prices for Hanwei went up in the sky like a rocket to the moon over the last 10 years.
Um, the above link sends us to the Hanwei Godfred Viking Sword - PC1010
I'm not sure this guy has any idea what he is talking about
Says some very odd things.
This sword is not for using to fight with or attack plastic bottles . It's a show piece. These swords you are showing are show pieces
Education in weapons is what you need