How I use the CONTROL ROOM in CUBASE PRO
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How I use the CONTROL ROOM in CUBASE PRO - Chris Selim
The Control Room is a powerful feature found in the Pro version of Cubase. I use it all the time. In this video, I will share with you why I like working with the Control Room and how I use it to bring my workflow to the next level.
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Thanks a million for showing me how to configure different monitoring EQs for different monitors! It's been driving me mad that I haven't found it, and I've been using a Que for my second monitor instead, but then I've had to both turn off the mains while turning on the second monitor. Now it's ONE click! Yeah!
This is exactly what I was hoping I could do with control room. Your instructions were very good. Thank you!
hello,you know what, i'm french and many times it's difficult for me to understand Americans or English youtubers but you ,i understand everything ,thank you for your beautiful English and for your very interesting work
Control Room is really useful too to switch from stereo and mono to check the mono compatibility and the sound :)
Fantastic video Chris! I think Control Room is what separates the men from the boys in DAW terms ;)
LOL,, Tha is the best comment I got so far! Lol
Among a lot of other things Dom! If people claim that [enter in any other DAW here] is better than Cubase, it's just pure ignorance :)
Thank you Chris! The "Listen" trick is just awesome! 👍
I have used control room for a year now and feel I just really learned how to use it now by watching this video. Chris, YOU ARE THE MAN!!! I use Sonorworks as well and now moving it to the Control room insert solves muting it when exporting files.
Oh Yeah! That will be a workflow improvement for you!
You rock, Chris! Thanks for this. I've been dodging Control Room because I couldn't find the right teacher and tutorial. You da man.
You're very welcome! Thanks!
An eye-opening tutorial for me. Thanks Chris!
Thanks Chris! I always learn something I didn't know from you.
Hi Chris, I use the Control room all the time but some of the questions I had , got answered in this video of yours..Thank you so much for that.
Very informative video sir 🌹🙏
I have always been using the control room in Cubase. But this video gives insights I haven't been aware of. Great job! Thank you Chris!
Hey cool, never tried the control room, but was thinking about it a lot. How it can benefit me and my workflow. Looking forward to this video. Also my compliments on your other video's, I use them a lot in Cubase forums if people have questions about Cubase. Keep up the good work.
Best explanation!!!
Followed you to the T. Still can’t get it to work. I am currently using the TB option thru my Avocet, but would like to have the Cubase ine as backup
Thanks for that video. I learned a good tips for OBS capture. For me, I use Control Room in my Home Studio for Stereo/Mono switching, its easy to validate a whole mix. Then I also use multiple Cues for A/B or reference comparaison during mixing or mastering.
I'm planing a full video on my process using Cubase and OBS. Thanks for sharing!
thank you man u always been so helpful to us
Glad to hear that! :-)
Great video, I use the controlroom mainly for my Sonarworks and the Listen feature. I have not enough free outputs to connect both pairs of speakers at the same time and I am "alone" or we are all in one room.
Thanks Chris, this is an area I have kind of stayed away from, Why cause of not really totally understanding it fully, I would love to see a part two s(2) on this process. Again thanks for your continued community support and education. Cheers Bruce :-)
Hi Chris, This is really very useful for learning Cubase 11. thanks so much for very kind explaination GREAT MAN!!!
You're very welcome!
Great tips! My favorite thing to do in the control room is to switch between monitors with a key command and changing stereo to mono with a key command also.
This is what I want to do as well. What interface are you using? I'm wondering how I'm supposed to hook up different speaker setups to mine...
The awesome thing about your tutorials is, you're not only learning about the functionality, but I also understood what Pre and Postfader meant all the time hahah, it just describes the physical location of the Signal before or after that specific track where the fader sits. Like Dry/Mix if you will. Before/After. I think you get what I meant.
All in all, the biggest critique I have about Cubase is, you can not do it right unless you have the pro version. Period. there is no way you can improve on anything when the artist version is limited that hard. But I don't care anymore, after 6 or 7 years of Learning with Cubase 5 and making the jump to Cubase 11, my wallet did get lighter by 600 bucks, but I am finally free to produce actual usable music. Thank you Chris, I subscribed and hope that there will be more amazing Videos coming. Do you have a studio tour where you explain what you use for recording audio and an "essential guide" ? I would love to see that and take notes :D
Just used this to figure out how to get audition working on the offline processing, worked a treat thanks
Awesome!
A big thanks to you, Chris. You are a genius in cubase. I use cubase pro 10.5 and I love it, but videos like this one from you get me more acquainted with my DAW and makes me like it the more. Infact, for me, cubase pro 10.5 is simply the best. Thank you once again and keep up the good work. God bless you abundantly!
Thanks for your comment, I appreciate that! Happy that the videos are helpful :-) God bless you too, brother!
Your videos are awesome, control room rocks!!!
my go to when i need cubase help,,,your name should be Cubase Selim ;)
Thank you!
Of course!
Thank you I love your videos very helpful
16:30 thats what I was looking for! thank you
You're welcome!
Really nice and informative video, thanks!
it was very very helpful Chris
Thanks Chris!
I know to setup control room, but you always show some cool tip, can't wait to watch! 😊
Thank you Chris
Very helpful. Thanks for the great tips!
I use the Control room but never thought about putting Sonorworks on there so I don't have to keep deactivating/activating it for mixing down. As you showed, you can have different Sonorworks profiles for different speakers ready to go with a single click. Also you explained the L button for me which I look at but have never used! Now it all makes sense! Great video and explanation of a feature of Cubase I overlooked for a long time. Thanks Chris.
You're welcome, my friend!
Thanks Chris. I never thought about sending the Cue mix to OBS when recording tutorials. Going to try that now. I also use a Nanokontrol for macros, frequently used commands etc. It's a very useful little gadget.
Useful gadget for sure :-)
This is great thanks. Have you done a video on setting up OBS with Cubase? This woul;d be really useful for me
In obs under Audio settings ya can choice ya Interface and ya fine for streaming mayb ya need loopback function in ya Interface
Great video! I don't have a physical monitor switcher, so I use the inserts on the monitor outputs in the control Room, mapped to buttons on a physical controller, to send through the appropriate Sonarworks profile for each of my three monitor pairs. I also have one on my phones channel to use the profile for my headphones. I made a video on that too.
Merci Chris!
A very interesting video, thanks a lot!
Very informative as usual, thank you. Cheers Dave
Very welcome
Greatand in depth as always Chris - those Dim controls were new to me. I use the Cue mix for my singer, usually give him Cues of the group channels, but sometimes just switch his heaphones to the master so he gets an idea what the finished mix sounds like. Really one of the main features of Pro, I couldn't work without that. Haven't tried the talkback yet because we work in the same room, but even then I can imagine it helpful to sing him harmonies.
Thankyou for this! Perfect!
Love these bread and butter videos, good stuff, keep up the good work!
Thanks, will do!
Great Video as always. After watching your videos it makes me second guess the "other DAW" that I use.
Keep up the great work
Thank you Chris for sharing this great video with lots of tips! Keep up the good work.
Good video! Thank you! :)
Glad you liked it! :-)
Great video! One other option - I run a talkback through Cubase and back out, so I can use the Muteomatic plugin, to automatically disable during playback.
Cool stuff :-)
Merci mec!!! j'apprécie beaucoup tes capsules, elles me sont très utiles!!
Bienvenue Pascal, heureux de voir qu'elles te sont utile :)
As always, a great video; very concise. Agreeing with Nelson, the 'Listen' trick is awesome. Even just using it to set up effects will save a lot of time.
My search for this video topic was motivated by a phone call I received yesterday from a friend in Germany (I'm in Toronto) who lost his 'stereo' playback to his speakers; would only do 'stereo to mono' playback. A new piece of hardware that wouldn't connect made him think that Cubase was set up incorrectly; it was a fault in the hardware unit which he's sending back today. So he messed up the Cubase Control Room before he worked that out. I had to log onto his computer (I used Teamviewer) to correct it. I couldn't make it work with just verbal instruction.
The reason is that he is running 9.5 and I am using 10.5. There are some differences in how to access and select output mixes. A few new buttons in the newest version of Cubase. I thought that I'd mention this in case someone is having a problem making this work. If you still have 9.5 version on your computer, check it out.
Setting up my 'Listen' now. Thanks again.
Hey Canadian brother, thanks for your CR update
Thanks Chris ! toujours de très bons tutos comme d'hab ;)
Merci Fab!
Thanks Chris...This gave me some great ideas.Till now I've only used the control room in a very limited way. I only have one set of monitors but I have 2 headphone outputs so I set up a special mix to compensate for the shortcomings of a second crappy set of headphones I have so I can have someone else listen in with me when that's called for.
Thank you, nice one
That was very interesting! Thanks a lot Chris!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Can you please make a video about how to setup the talkback function from beginning to the end? Input of the mic etc.
Thanks Chris! I love using control room. It’s always on!
I recently started using it to listen to reference tracks while mixing. This way I can route the reference track so that it doesn’t go through my master buss processing, and I can seamlessly A/B my mix by switching between Mix and Cue 1(or 2-4)
If I set the reference track to solo defeat, I can also seamlessly A/B soloed tracks in my mix against the reference track.
Love your videos!
That's a cool way to use the CR, thanks for sharing!
Thomas Kinzel I use the listen button in the CR for switching to my reference track. Then you don’t need to use the cue sends.
Hi! Chris, great videos.
I bought Steinberg UR 44 C in an attempt to improve work flow between Cubase (12) and it, but I was a bit disappointed.
Control Room and DSP effects synchrony:
To my surprise having to use DSP effects hinders work flow in the following manner when recording in the same room as many of us do these days:
When one wants to use DSP effects, one would select the track one would record on and the dsp panel would appear on the inspector.
Problem 1: But for it to appear, you should have output busses under "Output" tab as opposed to having busses in the control room. If you have busses in the Control Room for headphones mix for the singer and monitors, but not have busses under "Output" tab, the DSP panel will not appear on the inspector.
Implications:
This means that, for me to record audio using DSP effects, I'm forced to have to remove L1 and R1 busses on "Monitors" under Control Room tab so as to use them at the "Output" tab.
This would then mean that, my Monitors are silent and the "Main" button does not work. This is a huge inconvenience because sometimes one oscillates between recording and editing.
The only way to resolve to dial down the physical volume on the UR 44 C. I was hoping I would not have to touch anything physical like I used to on my previous interface. I could control everything from the "Control Room" without opening audio settings.
I wish Steinberg make DSP effects panel active even just by simply activating Control Room.
It is better to try what I'm what talking about. Don't mind creating a video to explain better.
Could you please do a video on how to increase work flow if you record in the same room while working from computer on Control Room while using DSP effects.
I use the control room while streaming. I have two cues set up, one that goes to the stream, one that goes into my in-ears. The one to my in-ears has my click track, and a slightly altered mix so I can hear the instruments I'm playing. I send the talkback to both, to use as my speaking mic, and I have a plugin (Muteomatic) that I use to mute the talkback when I go into play mode. When I'm not performing live, I just listen to the regular monitor mix, which goes to my monitor controller. One of the biggest benefits for me is that the control room configuration remains intact, even when I switch projects.
Seems like a nice setup your have there :-)
You can set up in preferences, that the TB is mutet, when Cubase is playing. No need for Muteomatic. I use Muteomatic in the Reverb channel, to stop the Reverb when in Stopmode, when I talk to the talent, so you can speak without Reverb.
Hi Chris, great tips again! I use the Control Room all the time, e.g. for Ref-Tracks routing, so my 2-CH. MASTER w/ plugins is bypassed. This way I can switch between Monitors and Cues (Refs) in no time at all. And yeah, the Listen Mode in Cubase is great, it's very useful during the mixing, 'cause listening halfway in context, thanks to the Dim-Level, is something that I really love. I use the Solo Mode as little as possible. Have a good one, and stay healthy bro!! :-)
Thanks for sharing, Frank!
My pleasure Chris! BTW: I like the Rear Bus technique a lot, it's very cool.
I always used the direct output but now i find i have much more control over myt monitoring system and i can now switch from one set of speakers to another seamlessly.It might just be me but i find my stereo imaging sounds more spacious than before , there seems to be more depth but that could just be an illusion.Thanks for another great tutorial.
Thank you. Bonus! I have a Nano control lying in my cables flight case doing nothing. It never occurred to me to use it as a controller. Brilliant.
You are welcome!
Hi Chris, thanks a lot for going through the control room (with your own preferences). I've been using it for sometime, especially after I've started to use VST Connect.
But still I've found your session on the CR very useful, since you've included topics like monitoring set-ups, the function of the "listen" key, cue-mixes etc.
Irony is that maybe all this information is available in the manual, but I like to see, to hear and to compare. Also, you are a proficient teacher.
Thanks again.
Question: how do you get asio audio into OBS? -> I can route audio from cubase to any output ( RME UCX ) I can select that in OBS as input then, but no sound is coming through. Would be nice if you could explain how you dealed with that. I think Cubase is using ASIO drivers exclusively... Maybe you could go a bit more detailed into the OBS side of explaining in some of you next videos.
Hey Chris, can you do a tutorial, of how you make your videos?
It's comming soon :-)
Hi Valomat, I came here to brush up on my control room knowledge as I had forgotten how to use it, then was surprised to see Chris use it for OBS. I didn’t give that a thought. Anyway, I struggled like yourself to work out how to get Cubase into OBS. I ended up using a third party app called VoiceMeeter, which I had seen a few tutorials on. I have done my own tutorial which may help you until Chris gets time to do his. I will be waiting for Chris’s video also as he always pops up with some great tips! @ Chris....great work...thanks a bunch. ruclips.net/video/Rm_Nkl0Q9Wo/видео.html
Thank you for shedding some light into this subject, just yesterday I was looking to understand how the Control Room works and baaam, you release an idiot proof tutorial!! Also, if you have the chance, I would love to see how you approach Reamping and how you address the latency issue caused by its process, that would be a life saver for many people I guess!✌
Yeah, sure! I can do a reamping video :-)
@@mixdownonline You're awesome, and that's why I always search your channel first when looking for a tutorial or addicional info on a subject! Keep up the good work \m/
Good evening, is there a method please to separate general listening "stereo out" and listening to the media bay? in other words I want to route the sound of the media bay separately in another audio track? I heard that it is feasible from the "control room" but it seems very complicated for a beginner A video explaining the procedure would be great
I would love to be able to assign a knob/slider to the volume level of the metronome in the Control Room
Can you do a video on routing to external effects (ie re-amping)
Yes, you're not the only one asking so this topic is on my list!
Wow! thanks a lot for your useful tips - your explanations are always clear - I'm using Cubase 10 Pro, and it's getting more complicate since I've started in lower versions years ago. ;-))
Starting audio recording i used the control-room for different mixings to record. One cue was used for backingtrack an other for my instrumet i#ve recorded that moment.
Both cue's i've routed to my interface that had 10 outputs and for of them i used to go in my mixer. In the mixer i had two subgroups where one i used for the backings and the other to hear me playing while i am recording. Now i use a digital mixer and so i have no use for the control room now.
Maybe later when i buy a vocalbooth to put it in a different room, i will use the controll room for the studio-room and one cue for the vocal booth.
Cool setup Dirk, thanks for sharing!
@@mixdownonline I thought first, that my english is not good enough, that nobody can understand what i am writing, but i tried it and that showes me, that where is a will, ther is a way. Thank you for your respond!
Hi Your Videos helped me a lot Thank you very much. I have since Month the problem, that i would like to stream vom cubase 11 pro the sound i recorded, and live percussion to obs and from there to twitch. My Problem is i worked with Voice Meter Banana, but there always is a Latency with my Mic...
Hello Chris. This is VERY interesting. I've got a novation Launchcontrol XL and i wonder if it's possible to assiging Control Room Level wheel to a midi fader and how I go about it? I really can´t find that CRL in the settings. Thanks for the awsome videos. Cheers from Sweden.
Yes of course, instead of selecting Commands, select VST Contro Room then Control Tool then Volume, that will do it!
@@mixdownonline 1 minut later and it's working like a charm. Thank you sooo much my friend!!!!!
Thank you for this long explanation, Chris. It was very enjoyable and enlightening in some details that some of us had not seen, apparently.
LOL, you forgot to unmute but in 12:16 you unmute instead of mute 😹. We call it “gajes del oficio”.
How does OBS get the audio? You send the cue mix to hardware output and OBS get this from an input or is this done all directly via software?
LOL, Yes, that's what I did...For OBS, I will release a full video on this very soon to share my process using Cubase and OBS.
Oh, that sounds perfect, thank you!
Hi Chris, firstly can a say a big thanks to you for your tutorials, they are so helpful. I have just started using VST Connect Pro which I am getting to grips with thanks to your help. I do have a question though. I use closed back headphones and when I'm using talkback I find it odd hardly hear my own voice when talking to the performer. Is it possible to route talkback into my headphones as well??
F19? Damn, I have heard of amps going to 11, but keyboards going to F19? Seriously though, outstanding video. It took me a while to get through using the Control Room, lots of swearing, at times, missed switches and stuff, but once you get it down it's pretty sweet. Our band has 4 guys, so each one gets a cue mix, and that helps a lot. That MIDI controller trick was way cool too.
LOL... Does that mean that an amp going to 11 is louder? "Well, it's 1 louder, isn't it?" #classicspinaltap
great video...also use cr in connection with obs. and voicemeter
Hi Chris. I also have a AXR4 and the other day I was fiddling around with OBS. Can you elaborate on how you have the cue mixes in Cubase set up and how you have set up your routing to capture everything in OBS? Can you record the Cubase output and your microphone seperately in OBS? Love to hear how you did it! Best, Rob
Hello Chris, thank you for taking the time to make these videos. They are very helpful. I have an unrelated question regarding the Piano Roll in Cubase 10 Pro Q: Is there any way to get the note names on the KEYBOARD ROLL on the key editor?... e.g. c1,d1,e1 etc; all of them, not only the C's...
I'm not a piano player and having additional references when drawing midi blocks would be very useful
Hi Chris. As usually very helpful. May you, please, prepare tutorial how to record audio from Cubase into OBS together with capture screen?
SUre, It's on my list!
Chris Selim - Mixdown Online thank you 👍
Hi Chris, another perfect and very helpful video. Thank you! I have another and additional question: I would like to use Cubase 10 Pro to cut out a certain area from an audio file and make an exact loop of this cut area. Is there a specific procedure?
I would say to Cut your audio to what you want and to make sure that the loop ENDS at the end of a bar so this way it will be easier to copy that around. And you can also add a tiny Fadein/out to smooth that out which will help when the loop is been copy/pasted
@@mixdownonline Thanks for the answer, Chris. I'll try it out right away ..! 👍🏻
I have many questions about Cubase Pro control room feature. Looks very interesting.
First, is there a way to have momentary on/off switching like a conventional studio talkback, opposed to the click on/click off? (That sounds like a recipe for disaster if it accidentally gets left on and picks up confidential control room dialog and all the players hear it!).
Is there a setting to have faders control a cue mix instead of the little mousey line bar?
What about a remote control room volume pot?
I like your idea of having the control room mix on a stereo channel in cue for quick monitoring but is it possible to send the mix to all the separate channels quickly, then be able to tweak separate cue mixes as needed for players?
Effects and sometimes even eq on the cue mix channels seems fairly obvious, but please elaborate. A great cue mix is one of the most overlooked factors in getting great, balanced, inspired and dynamic performances.
Thanks for great tutorials!
Hii love your stuff Chris! How did you get your mixconsole to color the racks?
Is there a way to use the control room to use a laptop's onboard mic for a talkback mic? In the studio, I simply use the talkback functionality made available through my monitor controller. But I often track demo vocal on a laptop at other locations and I'd love to know if there's a way to do this -- I'm a little worried that Cubase may unfortunately not have the power to do this. What are your thoughts?
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Hey Chris - Great Video. Question: I find that I have to disable CR and revert back to main outs when adjusting vocal clips in variaudio or I cannot hear them in realtime. Am I doing something wrong?
Do you have to switchback to regular outputs to export a mixdown?
Question: When you first opened the Control Room you had Sonarworks Ref in an insert slot at the bottom of the CR but then moved it up to your Monitor's insert slot. What is the lower set of insert slots and how are they different from the ones under the monitor? Thanks!
The ones on top will affect a specific Monitor Output, each monitor output will have Insert slots. if Sonarworks is added at the bottom like I do, that affects all monitor outputs.
@@mixdownonline Makes sense -thanks. Stay safe, be well. Peace from SF
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Hey Chris, you have a stereo out put and a master out put, how did you set that up?
I'm new tot his and cannot find the enable/power button for the Control Room. I am using an early M1 Mac Mini and Cubase Pro 13 and struggling to hear anything from the microphones. I can hear tracks etc no problem. If you have a session on mIcs only, Maybe I'll find it but thank you for doing these.
Hi Chris, how do you set up a Cue mix when you are using a reference track? What is the main purpose using this option for a reference track? Thank you.
My answer is in this video ruclips.net/video/SEe-1bsarSc/видео.html
Whwere did you plug in your Talkbac mic? And/or did you set it up in the routing panel?
OK, is it feasible to change the color of the >Audio Connections< window (Cubase 13 pro) in Windows 10?
Thank you Chris great video as always, do you prefer keep the project as midi or covert it to audio and then mixing & Mastering? Midi is taking too much cpu power.
Convert to Audio all the way, I never keep MIDI when mixing
Using Cubase 11 Pro, any differences I should know about between 10.5 and 11 for the control room? Thanks.
Hi Chris...:) is there a way to assign a midi KNOB of my Midi Keyboard or Faderport to control the Volume Knob of the Control Room? Thanks a lot.... I have assign the Mono And Stereo switch to my faderport but i dont see the VOLUME comand...
Great tutorial. I love the features of Cubase Pro's Control Room. I do have a question, though, that I'm a bit confused on. The Control Room provides great routing options for monitoring, and basically leaves Cubase's main stereo output to be used just for exporting your stereo mixdown. I'm sure I'm not the only one, though, that like to put a bus compressor, EQ and/or limiter on my master bus for mixing. If I'm using Control Room, does this mean I need to put these plugins on my master stereo bus as well as my control room bus, with the same exact settings, so that I can hear the effects of these plugins both when monitoring through the control room as well as in the stereo mixdown that is exported through the stereo master bus? For example, I might insert an SSL bus compressor on my stereo master bus. Would I need to insert the SSL bus compressor plugin on both the stereo master bus as well as my control room inserts and match their settings? It seem to me that if I don't insert the bus compressor on the control room, I won't hear its effect when I'm mixing/monitoring, and if I don't put it on the stereo master bus, my mixdown won't be affected by the bus compressor. However, having to insert it on both the control room and the master bus and match the plugin settings seems a bit inefficient and dodgy. It would be nice if there was an insert chain that was shared between the control room and the master output bus so that both could be run through the same exact plugins. Am I thinking about this wrong?
You can add your Mix Bus processing on the Stereo Out channel like you usually do. No need to add them again in the control room, the signal coming out of your Master Out Channel is what you're go hear through the CR. The CR Inserts are for monitoring types plugins like a VU Meter, Graphic Analyzer, Sonarworks Sound iD, Waves NX for Headphones... Plugins you monitor with, but don't want to bounce with your mix. Hope that helps!
So is the cue sends like a pre auxiliary
nuendo 13 how to change the color of the audio connections window to white?...
Hello Chris, is it possible to make a Video about Vst Connect and Vst Transit ?
Especially in this period 😉
I'm actually working on a VST Connect video at the moment