WEIGHTS & STRENGTH TRAINING TRANSFER 2: WAS I RIGHT? AND ARE DAN PFAFF & JEREMY FISCHER??? 👀🤔
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- Опубликовано: 3 июл 2024
- In this video I follow up on last week's one which looked in the main at Soviet era transference (at the time of upload • RESEARCH SHOWS SELECTE... ).
The video promoted much debate - although I do think that some may have not watched it and passed comment without seeing that I was not necessarily personally sayin weights don't transfer. Rather I was indicating that certin sources and coaches from a former era don't see the specific transference of weights to jumping as being at a high level - or using the work of Bondarchuk having a high coefficient of correlation.
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Intro: I talk to some of the worl'd top coaches:
Goran Obradovic (coach to Ivana Vuleta), Jeremy Fischer (coach to Will Claye), Aaron Gadson (coach to Thea Lafond) and Dan Pfaff (no intro needed!).
25sec: Perhaps my last video was misunderstood. As noted in the intro the video was about Soviet era thoughts in the main and I was going to bring this up to date in the next one (part 2 which will now have to wait).
I state that weight training does have a role but let's listen to some of the world's top coaches.
1.14min: Dan Pfaff
He talks about generational activities as they relate to the event. Jumping off a full run-up in a competition is a first generaton activity ... he goes through his "generations, and for him weight training and plyometrics are a fourth generation activity...
"What I we tryin to strenghten and How strong is strong enough?"
4.03min Jeremy Fischer
He explains about his contiumum of applications and compares what young jumpers may need to what adult and elite jumpers may need - it's obviously not the same.
"... with elite athletes specificity is the most important thing."
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5.18min: Goran Obradovic
"With the development of strength speed and power are developed as well."
5.45min: Aaaron Gadson
"Lifting for jumpers is primarily about building resiliency."
6.26min: I cover some of the questions and topics you guys raised in response to the prior video. They represent a cross section of opinions.
One size does fit all
Use of weighted sleds (a third generational transfer actitiy - better than weights??)
Weights do contribute (it's the extent of transfer)
Some athletes respond more to weight training than others
Elastic jumper example
Psychological dimension (belief that what you will be doing works)
Power to weight ratio
11.00min summing up
And look out for part 3 and maybe part 4. I have Frans Bosch to look at, for example.
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Great questions and video John. Learning so much from your channel!
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Great video, John. I think the most important indicator is the relative strength of an athlete- a coach should be very diligent on an athlete getting their body as strong as they can at a certain body weight before even thinking of gaining weight. NOT JUST WITH WEIGHTS BUT BODYWEIGHT EXERCISES SHOWING BODY CONTROL AND PROPER MOVEMENT PATTERN.
Good point - it’s a lot more than what you lift and how you lift … although those points are crucial. 🤔
That's what practically destroyed Dafne Schippers, imho. When she switched to coach Rana Reider, she competed with way too much muscle. Also I think her back problems and other injuries can be linked to excessive weight training. From what I understand he wanted her to bulk up so she could be faster out of the blocks....
Hey coach you are so informative but i have a question can i?
Athletes need to be strong enough to hold themselves in their best biomechanical positions AT THE VELOCITY which they need to move in competition. Most issues, including technique breakdowns, can be best seen thru the lense of a "strength at velocity" breakdown. Are your athletes still "strong" enough to hold their sports positions at an increased velocity?
Athletes also need the underlying biochemistry to support the recovery from a training/competition load, both intra and Inter sessions. This biochemistry issue is often at odds with the strength at velocity work mentioned above. But it doesn't have to be. Not in the jumps, sprints, or even distance events.
High velocity, high volume and high load in training is possible if proper care is taken to coordinate these two main factors.
Many thanks for your detailed comments which seem to echo most of the views in the video. The specifics aren’t mentioned as you do and that other level of relevance/specificity.
Perhaps that will be another video or two. I have recently had some discussions with very elite coaches which talk about ground contact time and reactivity specificity and now this can be trained specifically.
@@Johnshepherdtrackcoach As you mentioned GCT, it's critical to how we manage the strength portion of our program. How we manage the biochemistry components that enable us to train at very high volumes and very safely is probably where my thoughts differ from most. The synergy of these two things has worked well with jumpers, sprinters, ultra distance athletes and sports jumpers. Not sure this is the easiest place to have that discussion but the synergy of the methods makes high velocity, high volume and high load a real option for a much larger portion of the training year than most would imagine. Even up thru professional sports athletes in North America. Appreciate the work and thought you put into your channel.
Now my jump is 11 mtr. Can I jump 14,70 mtr in 8 month