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  • Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
  • RUclips done messed up again. Spread the word.
    Channels of all sizes are being branded as criminal sympathisers and receiving unjust community guideline strikes, because one of RUclips's bots can't tell the difference between a joke and terrorist propaganda.
    The clip of Adam's video received a copyright claim for the song in the background, which I've tried to mute. In case it also mutes the dialogue, Adam basically says: "2001 was the best year. Nothing bad happened, at all." In a clearly sarcastic way.
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  • @CynicalReviews
    @CynicalReviews  3 года назад +2509

    The clip of Adam's video received a copyright claim for the song in the background, which I've tried to mute. In case it also mutes the dialogue, Adam basically says: "2001 was the best year. Nothing bad happened, at all." In a clearly sarcastic way.

  • @YMS
    @YMS 3 года назад +1331

    Thanks for helping spread the word

    • @noyes8882
      @noyes8882 3 года назад +2

      @@wineandforgive pog someone acknowledged that clip

    • @jakespacepiratee3740
      @jakespacepiratee3740 3 года назад +6

      haha Cynical hearted a comment of a Furry!

    • @SlapstickGenius23
      @SlapstickGenius23 3 года назад +2

      Thanks ADUM!

    • @coolcatstudios3665
      @coolcatstudios3665 3 года назад +9

      @@wineandforgive lol no. There's a video on the YMS Highlights channel (which I can't link here for some reason) named "YMS's REAL opinion on bestiality (and the people that straw-man him)" that thoroughly debunks all that BS.

    • @kyrohowe3156
      @kyrohowe3156 3 года назад +1

      Poggers

  • @FPSDIESEL
    @FPSDIESEL 3 года назад +1947

    weird that everyone is getting these I thought I was the only one and I have no clue exactly why I got the guideline strike with no way to fix it. I basically guessed and just took down a bunch of videos but I already know I need to go back and do it again. But really youtube expects a weird amount of context and doesn't note that it sees the context. literally, just timestamp things.

    • @SteffOrSomething
      @SteffOrSomething 3 года назад +42

      honestly the system is messed up, its not your context that is wrong but yt. i already commented this but my channel got suddenly deleted for no reason and without any warning, it was wiped out just like that, i filled up a form and waited, then after that they told me it was just a mistake? come on, of course it was, they using bots to do their job is clearly a mistake

    • @drakron
      @drakron 3 года назад +14

      I watched his video and he theorizes that it was because of 9/11 as its the only thing that could even be flagged as such.
      BTW, guess whats soon will have its 20th Anniversary?

    • @AdamFunk
      @AdamFunk 3 года назад

      Was it for similar things to his strike, or something completely different?

    • @SalusKitty
      @SalusKitty 3 года назад +3

      I just got age restricted 2 hours ago...

    • @DMichaelAtLarge
      @DMichaelAtLarge 3 года назад

      Count me in on that. Yesterday I got a ding on a video I uploaded 8 tears ago. Obviously they released a brand new bot with a scorched earth policy.

  • @FigliadiSephiroth
    @FigliadiSephiroth 3 года назад +1299

    So you're saying that now whenever I need to call the police, the operator is going to greet me with "Hamburger Time, what is your emergency?"

    • @butthz8850
      @butthz8850 3 года назад +64

      What if there's someone in a video shouting, "Someone call hamburger time!" Will those channels get a warning/strike?

    • @chainlink2459
      @chainlink2459 3 года назад +43

      Thank you for making me laugh after RUclips's bullshit pissed me off. I really appreciate it.

    • @FTZPLTC
      @FTZPLTC 3 года назад +21

      Only in the US. In the UK you call "ham ham ham"

    • @serveaux
      @serveaux 3 года назад +14

      Great, now I have to edit all the CPR videos at work to say "call Hamburger Time".

    • @spookieboogi6161
      @spookieboogi6161 3 года назад +4

      Not gonna lie I’d be buying ham burgers in no time due to being hungry alll the time

  • @radioactiverat8751
    @radioactiverat8751 3 года назад +169

    Bots shouldn't be allowed to permenantly reject appeal claims. Only a human with understanding of context can do so.

    • @ajthewildwolf
      @ajthewildwolf Год назад +27

      Fr. Why even have the button there for the same bot that flagged you to reject it? That just adds to the layers of frustrating unfairness. It seems like it was only added so they appear as if they care about you

  • @JagoHazzard
    @JagoHazzard 3 года назад +669

    It's something I worry about. I produce mostly educational content, my stuff is family friendly, but there are certain subjects that I'm afraid of discussing even in a documentary context in case an over-zealous bot strikes me down.

    • @gregket
      @gregket 3 года назад +16

      I just got an 'Age restriction content', 2 days ago, on the Remembrance of the 100th Anniv. of the Armenian Genocide. Which was uploaded 6 years ago. Simple video with a handful of pictures, some graphic and others tame, and a nice Armenian song by Serj Tankian (System of a Down). With a BIG FAT Warning/disclaimer message, for 5 seconds before the video.

    • @acidbath3226
      @acidbath3226 3 года назад

      bots that are controlled by aliens

    • @sydinzeplin1209
      @sydinzeplin1209 3 года назад +9

      Don't worry. The bots will break into your house and beat the crap out of you just for thinking about it in a year or two.

    • @seanmills7586
      @seanmills7586 3 года назад +4

      @@sydinzeplin1209 yep you got it, thought police are a comin

    • @verner3600
      @verner3600 3 года назад +6

      @JayLeeBeanz Talk about kids' channel, apparently RUclips thinks a video showing someone in China getting hit by a car is TOO family friendly and is for RUclips kids.... so, RUclips's bots are kinda wild.

  • @imasamuraiyounimrod421
    @imasamuraiyounimrod421 3 года назад +1013

    Imagine if you were convicted for a crime. During trial the judge does his opening statement saying that you were convicted for homicide...and that's it. He doesn't go over what time the incident occured, what murder weapon was used, any information about the victim's body in the autopsy, nothing. You then get a guilty verdict from a lack of evidence even though none was recorded. Sound's ludicrous doesn't it, well that's what it's like when a RUclipsr has their video taken down

    • @Evets_03
      @Evets_03 3 года назад +72

      Yeah and most youtubers can’t do jack shit cause taking cases like these into real life court is expensive and they can’t afford it

    • @silent_stalker3687
      @silent_stalker3687 3 года назад +40

      Not really.
      See the woman who raped a man with threat of a machete… not rape says the judge.
      Or the Canadian judge who falsely sent someone to jail and denied the defendant any say- so the judge could preach ‘the caged bird sings’
      Or just look at the Floyd case and jury.
      Better yet see the mayor literally withholding evidence and cam footage just so they can push a a agenda

    • @lainiwakura1776
      @lainiwakura1776 3 года назад +19

      I love how they say they can say exactly what it was, but you violated a part of the TOS. Like, doesn't that prove that even they don't know?

    • @someidiot420
      @someidiot420 3 года назад +49

      and the entire time the prosecutor is telling you "you need to provide evidence why you're not guilty, but i don't need to provide any that you are, bc fuck you!" and then when you can actually provide evidence, they're like "lol im not reading that

    • @Mate397
      @Mate397 3 года назад +9

      You never saw a divorce court have you? Men always get the shaft based on no evidence and the women get everything.

  • @jonatackfamilyfriends6176
    @jonatackfamilyfriends6176 3 года назад +2067

    I feels ya. My boss' channel educates folks about authoritarian cults, domestic abuse, and coercive control. Can't tell you how many times we've been demonetized for talking about these subjects - as if we're supporting the horrible stuff, instead of warning people about it! Because warning people about how a child sex predator operates is, according to YT, the same as the the predator themselves. And yeah, no communication, no information, no recourse.
    Vimeo is looking better and better.

    • @metalxner5411
      @metalxner5411 3 года назад +9

      Wats ur boss channel

    • @metalxner5411
      @metalxner5411 3 года назад +4

      @@jonatackfamilyfriends6176 hmmm seems like an arg. Y is half of it about thinking like a cult leader

    • @Kavilion
      @Kavilion 3 года назад +33

      I think you’re looking at this the wrong way. The strikes aren’t for being interpreted as being as bad as those things. It’s literally RUclips trying to silence the channel because they are in support of authoritarian cults, coercive control and probably even pedo groups. Your boss’ channel is being silenced precisely because it stands against those things.

    • @AQueerMenace
      @AQueerMenace 3 года назад +72

      @@metalxner5411 it's,,, a channel about how cults work. It's gonna have stuff about cults and how leaders of cults think. That way, people understand it and can notice if they are being duped into something. It's surprisingly easy to fall into something that has cultish traits, and learning about how cults work (i tend to think abt them using the BITE model) can help you think though your beliefs a bit more.

    • @metalxner5411
      @metalxner5411 3 года назад +5

      @@AQueerMenace ahh we'll ye I just thought it was odd but it does make sense. Idk too many things today seem to be innocent and then r super bad so my bad if it seemed illegitimate.

  • @PaigeChristieUK
    @PaigeChristieUK 3 года назад +2404

    Same thing happened to me, got a warning for a video I made in 2017 - and appealed with no luck. I never broke any rules.

    • @EclecticPotpourri
      @EclecticPotpourri 3 года назад +12

      You are a Black lady creator?!! Following just for that and I saw the Patrica Bright thumbnail. Smh. I stopped watching her like last year. And Latoya forever. I like commentator videos. This channel is good too!!

    • @IvanVanncheskov
      @IvanVanncheskov 3 года назад +166

      @@EclecticPotpourri Following someone based on their skin color and gender is horrifically shallow, just saying. Maybe look deeper than skin and follow someone because of their content quality? Just a thought. If i worked super hard on a video and someone subscribed just because of my race and gender I'd be mad as hell.

    • @davekennedy6315
      @davekennedy6315 3 года назад +57

      @@IvanVanncheskov 100% agreed!

    • @jevinday
      @jevinday 3 года назад +15

      that's such bullshit. Shit like that would freak me out so much if RUclips was my income. Oh man that shit would stress me out so bad.

    • @XxX_afterHours_XxX
      @XxX_afterHours_XxX 3 года назад +18

      @@IvanVanncheskov this

  • @BlackburnBigdragon
    @BlackburnBigdragon 3 года назад +464

    There's a RUclipsr who I watch regularly who, a couple years ago, managed to get TWO copyright strikes from Nintendo. Now, his videos contained no footage of games, nor did they contain any music. Heck. They didn't even have a title screen. The videos were literally just him, sitting in a chair, in front of his computer, kicking back, and talking about his memories growing up in the 80's and 90's. And he loves to talk about video games, and arcades. This was the entire content of these videos. TWO of these chat from a chair videos got copyright struck by Nintendo. RUclips refused to tell him why. He appealed and was rejected each time. He was a smaller channel, so he had no outlet to get help, or find out why he was copyright struck. There was no controversial topics, no language, nothing not family friendly. The only thing that the videos had in common was that he was talking about his favorite NES games that he enjoyed back in the day. He would post these videos, and within an hour or so, he would get a strike with no explanation. To this day, he has no idea why he was getting these strikes, why the appeals were rejected, and why he STILL has those strikes on his record.

    • @russianvalkyrie2358
      @russianvalkyrie2358 3 года назад +34

      Thats awful

    • @Ominous_Odyssey
      @Ominous_Odyssey 3 года назад +54

      Not sure how this works as I'm not a content creator, but if it's a copyright strike from a specific group/entity, would that mean that the strike was initiated manually by said group/entity, as opposed to being flagged by a bot *for* them?

    • @WolfgangDoW
      @WolfgangDoW 3 года назад +16

      You need to talk to a lawyer sadly

    • @GameMaker3_5
      @GameMaker3_5 3 года назад +3

      Who is he?

    • @joeyginise6051
      @joeyginise6051 3 года назад +18

      I bet even Nintendo is confused about it. Assuming they are even aware of the incident.

  • @mindlessgonzo
    @mindlessgonzo 3 года назад +459

    I had this happen several times this year. I spent 6 months waiting on two strikes to expire and I had a good month and a half before two videos got removed that didn't get struck and a third one that did.

    • @kyotheman69
      @kyotheman69 3 года назад +10

      what happens when company becomes woke and enforcing censorship, all of silicon valley companies continue to push censorship

    • @seanmills7586
      @seanmills7586 3 года назад +11

      @@kyotheman69 "woke" is just another term for fascist rules, welcome to nazi germany worldwide 2021

    • @Stickman_Productions
      @Stickman_Productions 3 года назад

      @@seanmills7586 the Nazis killed millions. The neo Nazis killed millions of people's voice boxes because they laughed too much.

    • @seanmills7586
      @seanmills7586 3 года назад

      @@Stickman_Productions whats your point man? i'm not sure i follow, you trying to make a joke?

    • @Stickman_Productions
      @Stickman_Productions 3 года назад

      @@seanmills7586 you say Nazis these are neo Nazis and make people laugh at them

  • @trouty606
    @trouty606 3 года назад +693

    RUclips's "guidelines" feel about as vague and opaque as "because I said so", where there is zero evidence or justification given for applying them like this, but they will absolutely not back down or show any sort of reason of why they arbitrarily decided to enforce it.

    • @blacktigerpaw1
      @blacktigerpaw1 3 года назад +8

      Facebook's manage to be worse. You can't even call someone an insect as it is deemed "inferior language."

    • @addisonwelsh
      @addisonwelsh 3 года назад +35

      Yeah, that's not an accident. They're made intentionally vague so RUclips can punish people they don't like.

    • @AshenTechDotCom
      @AshenTechDotCom 3 года назад +19

      thats why youtube, facebook, twatter, etc, all have terms of service that let them change the rules case to case and not explain a damn thing..
      like, how can you get a 30 day post block, for quick sharing from msnbc's own posts???
      i have no idea but, 2x that happened to me... before i made any comments on the content... its when i really just stopped using it in any real way..
      the fact is, they all play these games... and do not act like platforms, but publishers... with constantly shifting rules... that differ depending on who you are and how much they like/agree with you....

    • @blacktigerpaw1
      @blacktigerpaw1 3 года назад +16

      @@AshenTechDotCom And the argument that will be used is 'they are a private company, they can do what they want', even though they are acting like publishers and not platforms.

    • @110000116699
      @110000116699 3 года назад +2

      It's kept vague so RUclips can get rid of any channel advertisers don't like

  • @sarissophori
    @sarissophori 3 года назад +1419

    Personally I'm leaning towards 50% general stupidity/moronic bots, 50% they're intentionally weeding out certain creators to make way for more compliant corporate channels. A recent CDC video was also flagged for containing 'false info'.

    • @drivethroughthearttracksla6736
      @drivethroughthearttracksla6736 3 года назад +99

      lmao cant have the people knowing that 💉

    • @jevinday
      @jevinday 3 года назад +206

      Yeah they seem to REALLY fuck with commentators the worst. CrashCourse has talked about everything from genocide to hamburger time to the worst wars and atrocities in history, but they're owned by PBS so of course RUclips isn't gonna fuck with them. WatchMojo makes entire videos of movie footage, but they have 20 million subscribers so youtube isn't gonna fuck with them, but one of my favorite channels with less than 50k subscribers got a warning for all of his videos that contained footage from the 1997 movie Titanic, so he had to delete each one, take out the footage from the movie, and then reupload each one again. It's shameful.

    • @nuclearglory0363
      @nuclearglory0363 3 года назад +61

      I just consider it to be the “RUclips agenda”, especially with that CDC thing, even though they can all screw themselves…

    • @FTZPLTC
      @FTZPLTC 3 года назад +64

      tbh another possibility is that someone is *manually* reporting these videos out of spite.

    • @Gatorade69
      @Gatorade69 3 года назад +56

      @@FTZPLTC Does reporting actually do anything. In a comment section filled with bot replies everyone reported the bots... they are still there.
      I've reported hate speech and yet, it is still there yet when I call them out formthe hate speech my comment is deleted.

  • @Horrormaster13
    @Horrormaster13 3 года назад +70

    RUclips isn't "You" anymore. It turned into a business trying to make as much money as possible. It started as a content creator friendly thing but completely changed because money doesn't revolve around normal people.

    • @loturzelrestaurant
      @loturzelrestaurant 3 года назад

      BE the change you want:
      Report wrong-doers and lunatics and sexists and p0rn.
      ...And Kent Hovind, to get a bit more specific.
      Some people want to be the 180 Degree Opposite of Cancel-Culture; and you?
      Its fun, its rightful, its funful. All 3 things.
      I myself made it my Hobby and Im happy with the Results.

  • @JustChillingOnTattoine
    @JustChillingOnTattoine 3 года назад +94

    This is exactly why we shouldn't be blindly jumping on the AI bandwagon yet. Thev technology is just not there yet, it lacks the understanding of intent and context human reviewers would pick up on immeditaly. RUclips, stop trying to save money on this!! It seriously hurts content creators and the their audience.

    • @loturzelrestaurant
      @loturzelrestaurant 3 года назад +1

      ...RUclips is indeed Messed-Up.
      And the Flag-System and those that abuse it,
      like Cancel-Culture, are definetly a part of it: BUT!!
      Theres a big But here, people.
      Some people try to be the 180 Degree Opposite of C-Culture
      and try to use the r-button like it was once meant to be used: To help.
      To g-damn help.
      I myself have gotten many Confirmed Racists,
      P0rn-channel, sexists, d-threats, homophobes,
      spam-bots and p0rn-spam-bots removed and destroyed.
      No need to thank me for stopping the Spam-Bots
      to Unite and name themselves SKYNET; i did this for my own Survival too, after all.
      But Jokes aside: If you wanna be prone to giving up, ok, you do that,
      but i have another plan.
      If your interested in that Plan and you have one of the many
      reasons-to-act that i wont even list here,
      then: Ask me Questions.
      Interested to actually do something?

    • @NicholasEzclapz
      @NicholasEzclapz 3 года назад

      @@loturzelrestaurant What?

    • @loturzelrestaurant
      @loturzelrestaurant 3 года назад +1

      @@NicholasEzclapz Racists = Easy to find.
      Reportbutton = Exists.
      So, easy enough?

    • @loturzelrestaurant
      @loturzelrestaurant 3 года назад +1

      @@NicholasEzclapz I can give you generic searchterms that lead you most likely to reportworthy sutff,
      or give you specific aka non-generic search-terms, like 'Kent Hovind', a famous Hate-Preacher.
      hy not kick some Scammers off RUclips and destroy some Spam-Bots before they Unite and become knwon as 'SKYNET'?
      ?

    • @loturzelrestaurant
      @loturzelrestaurant 3 года назад +2

      @@NicholasEzclapz Its easy to do nothing.
      But its fun to do something.
      Its fun to battle 'Karens' if you know that Term.

  • @michaelfireheart8300
    @michaelfireheart8300 3 года назад +689

    RUclips: *gives themselves freedom of speech award*
    Creators: What about your terrible system that demonetized us, striked us, unsubscribed our subscribers and worse?!
    RUclips: Can't speak right now, leave a message at the beep, BEEP! *Runs off stage*

    • @theanti-hero3983
      @theanti-hero3983 3 года назад +23

      Wow. You knew that RUclips gave themselves a free expression award?

    • @michaelfireheart8300
      @michaelfireheart8300 3 года назад +32

      @@theanti-hero3983 Yup and it's truly ironic.

    • @MilanesaConPure
      @MilanesaConPure 3 года назад +37

      Here in South America a lot of content creators ( Sr. Pelo for example) recieve a lot of shit from RUclips, it can be a live action, a blog video, an animation or a debate video, you are going to get blammed by this shitty platform :T

    • @michaelfireheart8300
      @michaelfireheart8300 3 года назад +24

      @@MilanesaConPure not surprised as RUclips seems to be very biased based on the country.

    • @theanti-hero3983
      @theanti-hero3983 3 года назад +17

      @@michaelfireheart8300 it’s also ironic that they say in the video on which they gave themselves an award how they censor their userbase.

  • @Randomstuffs261
    @Randomstuffs261 3 года назад +248

    I like that RUclips can't distinguish between a Movie Reviewer and ISIS...
    ...we are truly living in an AI-driven utopia

    • @loturzelrestaurant
      @loturzelrestaurant 3 года назад +5

      RUclips is indeed Messed-Up.
      And the Flag-System and those that abuse it,
      like Cancel-Culture, are definetly a part of it: BUT!!
      Theres a big But here, people.
      Some people try to be the 180 Degree Opposite of C-Culture
      and try to use the r-button like it was once meant to be used: To help.
      I myself have gotten many Confirmed Racists,
      P0rn-channel, sexists, d-threats, homophobes,
      spam-bots and p0rn-spam-bots removed and destroyed.
      No need to thank me for stopping the Spam-Bots
      to Unite and name themselves SKYNET; i did this for my own Survival too, after all.
      But Jokes aside: If you wanna be prone to giving up, ok, you do that,
      but i have another plan.
      If your interested in that Plan and you have one of the many
      reasons-to-act that i wont even list here,
      then: Ask me Questions.

    • @vst6727
      @vst6727 2 года назад +2

      Can you please take out the p0rn spam bots in the callmekevin minecraft video's? I would do it myself but huawei needs me to use search engine to use youtube, and i cannot flag stuff

    • @iamhungey12345
      @iamhungey12345 2 года назад

      Knowing Google, YT would support ISIS if given the chance.

    • @neten376
      @neten376 2 года назад +3

      youtube moderation is a joke

  • @evanceier8577
    @evanceier8577 3 года назад +322

    man, even if RUclips used the bots but actually had PEOPLE look at the appeals, even if it was glacially slow, it would be better

    • @gulferamus4999
      @gulferamus4999 3 года назад +35

      Ah yes, but see, this would mean that this poor multi-billion dollar company would then earn a few hundred thousand dollars less. How can you be so heartless!

    • @idigamstudios7463
      @idigamstudios7463 3 года назад +3

      @@gulferamus4999 I mean YT operates at a loss so it's parent company Alphabet can maintain their monopoly by undercutting all possible competitors.

  • @chelseaadams5454
    @chelseaadams5454 3 года назад +59

    Person: Oh, boy. I can't wait to upload this review of (insert movie here)!
    RUclips: Hold it! That violates copyright policy!
    Person: But, it's a review. It's fair use. Well, ok, then. I'll just upload this toy review I've been working on...
    RUclips: Hold it! That's advertising to children, and we have policies against that!
    Person: But, it's a collectible for adults and...Ugh, ok. I got it! I'll just show this great gameplay footage of me playing (insert game here) and...
    RUclips: Hold it! That promotes violence and supports criminal activity!
    Person: But it's a fictional video game and it's clear that the goal is to fight against criminals and terrorists. Look, what can I upload onto this site?
    RUclips: You can upload this footage of a blank screen.
    Person: But, there's nothing there.
    RUclips: Exactly! There's absoluely nothing that can be seen as offensive, illegal, or questionable in any way! It is completely within our policies!
    In other words, RUclips in a nutshell.

    • @cola98765
      @cola98765 3 года назад +4

      In before you get a copyrights strike for 6h of silence or white noise you made yourself.

    • @kasiajarzebska3739
      @kasiajarzebska3739 3 года назад +1

      That would be interesting: upload the video of an empty screen and observe the reaction and if it gets a strike or not

    • @chelseaadams5454
      @chelseaadams5454 3 года назад +1

      Also-
      Person: Oh, boy. Time for me to upload my video essay on (insert show here) that I worked for five weeks straight on!
      RUclips; Hold it! That violates copyright policy!
      Person: But, it's fair use. It's commentary. And, I'm uploading it for free. I'm not getting any money for it at all.
      Big Entertainment Corporation: Ho ho! I have (insert movie here) to upload!
      RUclips: Go right ahead, sir. And, may we suggest you charge the viewer money to watch it?
      Big Entertainment Corporation: Sounds wonderful! I already make millions but now I can make even more money on this "free" platform!

    • @ThePC007
      @ThePC007 3 года назад +3

      People had the videos demonetized and/or copyright flagged for uploading nothing but white-noise that they have generated themselves.
      So no, blank screens aren't necessarily OK either.

    • @loturzelrestaurant
      @loturzelrestaurant 3 года назад

      BE the change you want:
      Report wrong-doers and lunatics and sexists and p0rn.
      ...And Kent Hovind, to get a bit more specific.
      Some people want to be the 180 Degree Opposite of Cancel-Culture; and you?
      Its fun, its rightful, its funful. All 3 things.
      I myself made it my Hobby and Im happy with the Results.

  • @shr1mpsush1
    @shr1mpsush1 3 года назад +37

    I can't help but think RUclips really wants they're platform to be completely run by advertiser-friendly influencers, but they know that directly killing off everyone else's channels would kill the platform.

    • @slevinchannel7589
      @slevinchannel7589 3 года назад +1

      Dont just complain about Susan and the Reportsystems/Options!
      Do something! Some actually try to use the r-button to act. To get the plattform to
      be less s-ual and less hate-filled and less scammy.
      Does it work? Kinda, yes. Enough, at least, for me to ask if you wanna join. It costs no money, after all, so duh.

    • @Roman_the_black_cat
      @Roman_the_black_cat Год назад

      Is slevin a bot or smth? Why are they not understanding context just like the vid said bots dont hmmm

  • @komorebi3803
    @komorebi3803 3 года назад +443

    Even though I'm not a creator, RUclips is pissing me off. Within the last years they made it harder for creators to get the revenue they deserve while also pushing advertiment. As well as their obnoxious YT Pro adverts. RUclips treats everyone like shit, yet their income increases. I hate these big companies but they buy/destroy every decent competetor, so we've got nowhere to run.

    • @megtoon1304
      @megtoon1304 3 года назад +43

      Honestly like it loves to preach about it's diverse user base and creators but does everything to censor the content that might be a little controversial while PragerU is still about. They prefer licking the boots of mobile game advertisers than the creators who MAKE THE CONTENT THAT GETS PEOPLE TO STAY

    • @growingsage
      @growingsage 3 года назад +34

      Not to mention them just slapping ads on your videos regardless of if they've been monetized or not

    • @steamphoenix8817
      @steamphoenix8817 3 года назад +26

      Let's not forget about dirty ads from these advertisers that have shown up in feeds that break the rules. But nothing is ever done to them. YT is a big hypocrite.

    • @dmanx500
      @dmanx500 3 года назад +5

      *so we've got nowhere to run*
      No people just dont have the balls to move

    • @UlshaRS
      @UlshaRS 3 года назад +12

      Even those creators who don't monetize their channels still get ads forced onto their content. You know they would still be hard pushing marketing at minors, who by law are not allowed to even have accounts, if not for that cease and desist lawsuit.

  • @AmberCommentsThings
    @AmberCommentsThings 3 года назад +229

    They say a CEO's job is to manage a company, clearly Susan needs more of a clue

    • @bolbyballinger
      @bolbyballinger 3 года назад +31

      Thing is she's not managing a company.
      She's managing a monopoly.
      She's doing the "whole abuse your power as much as humanly possible while everyone just accepts it as reality and the government doesn't care to do its job" thing.

    • @blacktigerpaw1
      @blacktigerpaw1 3 года назад +19

      She's only there because of nepotism. Corporate power means everything.

  • @jakenguyen4253
    @jakenguyen4253 3 года назад +204

    Apparently 2021 is "Corporations make oopsies more than usual" the year

    • @syriuszb8611
      @syriuszb8611 3 года назад +17

      That's normal year for RUclips. It needs to screw creators at least once every half year or so.

    • @Evets_03
      @Evets_03 3 года назад +22

      @@syriuszb8611 Oh yeah no this is every fucking year for RUclips. Mess up a bunch of times, never get punished for it, and instead the viewers and youtubers are the ones that suffer

    • @SlapstickGenius23
      @SlapstickGenius23 3 года назад +2

      Even then, Disney is frankly kissing on grandchild Amazon’s cheeks!

  • @smileplease_91
    @smileplease_91 3 года назад +42

    Good on you for speaking up about this. I remember Markiplier sticking up for another smaller creator for using a clip or something and was given a strike, but Mark himself had used the same clip and didn't. He called RUclips out on it and ended up getting a strike. Both of you got balls, guys.

  • @goncalocorreia6085
    @goncalocorreia6085 3 года назад +29

    Isn't it kind of illegal to accuse someone of criminality or affiliation? Specially without going to Court. Someone correct me please.

  • @TheRealW.S.Foster
    @TheRealW.S.Foster 3 года назад +786

    I remember way back when I was a shithead kid in high school, and I had a dream of wanting to make it big on RUclips like Pewdiepie. Seeing with how RUclips is nowadays, I guess I was lucky my Mom shot that dream down and got me focused on a real career as a teacher.

    • @ralphdonn9518
      @ralphdonn9518 3 года назад +15

      Damn

    • @redactedredacted1860
      @redactedredacted1860 3 года назад +17

      Real career. Please.

    • @notoriousbig3k
      @notoriousbig3k 3 года назад +15

      @Joey Van hellsing they ban You or Strike You for saying jello

    • @twa.t
      @twa.t 3 года назад +19

      Jello-
      [ This comment has been deleted ]

    • @Cless012
      @Cless012 3 года назад +47

      @@Visitormassacre now as a teacher they get to dodge real bullets

  • @taipenn2358
    @taipenn2358 3 года назад +165

    When I say a channel is "criminally underrated" I didn't realize RUclips put more emphasis on the "criminal" part.

  • @RealCoolstriker64
    @RealCoolstriker64 3 года назад +324

    We’ve heard your concerns. However, Susan is too busy spending all the money she gets from ad revenue on YOUR videos, so she can’t fix it at the moment.

    • @slevinchannel7589
      @slevinchannel7589 3 года назад +6

      Dont just complain about Susan and the Reportsystems/Options!
      Do something! Some actually try to use the r-button to act. To get the plattform to
      be less s-ual and less hate-filled and less scammy.
      Does it work? Kinda, yes. Enough, at least, for me to ask if you wanna join. It costs no money, after all, so duh.

    • @detinator5
      @detinator5 3 года назад +14

      @@slevinchannel7589 you, using report buttons to censor other people's work, you are the reason why these corporations feel entitled to do the same. You are why we're watching this video about rabid strike algorithms. You support the censorship because you believe you're fighting the good fight.

    • @slevinchannel7589
      @slevinchannel7589 3 года назад +3

      @@detinator5 Oh buddy.
      You got it all wrong.
      No, i dont censor people.
      You make the common mistake to think that using the reportbutton is 'eeeeeviiiil', which is just Silly.
      Lets face it, calling that button evil is silly.

    • @slevinchannel7589
      @slevinchannel7589 3 года назад +2

      @@detinator5 Its sad you got it wrong so much.
      I am on the site of the users and on the site of cynical reviews here, buddy; you just dont get it cause you dont know as much about the System as i do. Heck, you apparently dont even know that the r-button exists for a reason, just like the police-phonenumber exits for a reason. I mean: duh? Duh much?

    • @detinator5
      @detinator5 3 года назад +15

      @@slevinchannel7589 if your actions result in comments/videos/audio being removed from the internet, your actions are censorious. The report button isn't evil, but misusing the report button is evil if there's malice. I don't know why you would take pride in using the report button.

  • @SneakiestChameleon
    @SneakiestChameleon 3 года назад +14

    Again, this is why RUclips should be moderated by PEOPLE.

    • @Beregorn88
      @Beregorn88 3 года назад

      Except, the sheer size make it impossible...

    • @max_punch
      @max_punch 3 года назад +1

      @@Beregorn88 bruh youtube is rich af, i'm sure they can hire at least 20.000 people to mod videos
      Also they can hire developers to make the bots better, so the actual humans have less work
      It could be like this: a better version of the bot flags a video, with an exact timestamp(s) a real human clicks the timestamp, sees the context, and decides what to do with the video

  • @AssassinAgent
    @AssassinAgent Год назад +8

    Selling RUclips to google has been one of the worst decisions in the history of the Internet.

  • @CrykorZ
    @CrykorZ 3 года назад +85

    Ironic how youtube recommended this video to me. RUclips only seems to want “family friendly” content nowadays, spouting “it’s for the children” bs. Ah yes like those clickbait trash channels that try to use naive kids who don’t know any better to get views. I’m so tired of seeing my favorite content creators skirt around these rules in a attempt survive on this platform. They seriously need to fix their shit (but quite frankly, I doubt they even care).

    • @loturzelrestaurant
      @loturzelrestaurant 3 года назад +2

      Bots are so f-ing stupid that they dont remove P0rn-Advertisement-making Spam-Bots.
      Or 'P0rn-Spam-Bots' as i call them.
      I fight them anyway though. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesnt,
      but i keep going.
      Its fun to kick Racists off the Plattform,
      and so is destroying Spam-Bots. So if you wanna join
      and spend 5 Funny Minutes per Day,
      thats just great.
      Go and ask me how to do it and i give you a Tutorial.
      A Crash-Course.

  • @lazarusthibodeaux
    @lazarusthibodeaux 3 года назад +238

    Gilbert Gottfried literally made a joke about HAMBURGER TIME right after it happened and he’s fine.

    • @bojanglesfries
      @bojanglesfries 3 года назад +1

      His mr beast burger review?

    • @TheWarmotor
      @TheWarmotor 3 года назад +3

      What is hamburger time? Sounds delicious!

    • @utopua4all
      @utopua4all 3 года назад +13

      @@TheWarmotor I think it's Wimpy's equivalent to happy hour.

    • @cymond
      @cymond 3 года назад +8

      @@TheWarmotor is this sarcasm, or did you not watch the video?
      "Hamburger time" is secret code to avoid getting a bot strike

    • @TheWarmotor
      @TheWarmotor 3 года назад +5

      @@cymond I either missed that or it was in the literal last minute and a half of the video, when I started looking away from my screen to sniff a mixture of crushed up bootleg phentanyl pills and cocaine off of a tiny spoon.
      That isn't me being cute, that's what I'm into right now. The price of those two things has plummeted since they stopped controlling who comes over the border and holy cow do I love them.

  • @writheagainsoon
    @writheagainsoon 3 года назад +316

    I had a family member die in hamburger time. I make jokes about it myself because using humor to deal with trauma is NORMAL and I know no one is making fun of the people we lost. This makes me furious. I cannot tell you how many times I get sent hamburger time "debunking" videos by disgusting cretins. No matter how vile the content, they never get taken down. I had my whole family report one once that mentioned me BY NAME and asked for transphobia to be sent my way. Channel only got taken down like months later cause they uploaded a video using endgame clips -_______- I use this site daily but if a boycott were announced I'd be the first to join

    • @crackerjack0349
      @crackerjack0349 3 года назад +58

      The homophobia, transphobia and racism is fine. But using movie clips is too much apparently

    • @spectre9340
      @spectre9340 3 года назад +48

      @@crackerjack0349 YT will demonitize someone for using the word "p3d0phile" in a video/video title but will let actual confirmed p3d0philes run amuck on YT
      They easily got rid of Leafy but apparently, criminals are just allowed a platform ig

    • @TaurineFiend
      @TaurineFiend 3 года назад +16

      I'm going to hell for laughing at the Hamburger Time thing. It's such a wholesome type name but...it seems to be a horrible incident? Can you explain what it is?

    • @Ominous_Odyssey
      @Ominous_Odyssey 3 года назад +10

      @@TaurineFiend
      He is referring to 9/11, which was a series of coordinated terrorist attacks against the US. The particular footage getting flagged by bots on other channels is of the attack on the Twin Towers of the WTC (World Trade Center).

    • @TaurineFiend
      @TaurineFiend 3 года назад +3

      @@Ominous_Odyssey Ah okay. Thanks for not being toxic about it.

  • @saprin4631
    @saprin4631 3 года назад +8

    Can we just start a movement against this stuff? Like a RUclips union?
    If we can get enough big names in the hat, we might be able to force RUclips to stop their BS.

  • @braddl9442
    @braddl9442 3 года назад +8

    YT gets away with this DMCA abuse because no one can afford to sue them.

  • @DragonRagovi
    @DragonRagovi 3 года назад +376

    For what it's worth, I'm happy that despite all of RUclips's shenanigans, you and plenty of other channels I regularly watch still have a drive to continue making content, even if the circumstances could be much better.
    I'm not a RUclips content creator (I simply don't think I have the required time, skill and patience for it) but I can understand your frustration, and I'm wishing you and your friends the best moving forward.

    • @saanasalonen8684
      @saanasalonen8684 3 года назад +4

      i agree and love your supportive comment :)

    • @Phoenix_Blader_93
      @Phoenix_Blader_93 3 года назад

      RUclips won't change till there's a good enough competition

    • @loturzelrestaurant
      @loturzelrestaurant 3 года назад

      @@Phoenix_Blader_93 Bots are so f-ing stupid
      that they dont remove P0rn-Advertisement-making Spam-Bots.
      Or 'P0rn-Spam-Bots' as i call them.
      I fight them anyway though. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesnt,
      but i keep going.
      Its fun to kick Racists off the Plattform,
      and so is destroying Spam-Bots. So if you wanna join
      and spend 5 Funny Minutes per Day,
      thats just great.
      Go and ask me how to do it and i give you a Tutorial.
      A Crash-Course.

    • @loturzelrestaurant
      @loturzelrestaurant 3 года назад

      @@Phoenix_Blader_93 Use the reportbutton, i say,
      so we have non-bots (Us!) to do 'something'.

  • @Slithery
    @Slithery 3 года назад +147

    I REALLY wish that RUclips would step up with the communication and stop this mess of their copyright AND community guidelines violations strikes. I understand there are a lot of channels but at least TRY and get people looking over these claims rather than bots auto rejecting appeals.

    • @evilbob840
      @evilbob840 3 года назад +14

      Especially in cases where a rejected appeal means no further recourse.

    • @Jackvonblood
      @Jackvonblood 3 года назад +9

      Nah, they couldn't give less of a shit about the people that use this platform. They've gone out of their way to fuck everyone over, whether creator or viewer, they actively shit on everyone as much as possible. Fuck RUclips.

    • @YeeLeeHaw
      @YeeLeeHaw 3 года назад +1

      @@Jackvonblood Forget RUclips and go over to Odysee. People (especially the content creators) keep on complaining about this horrible site but all they have to do is going over to an already existing alternative that will greet them with open arms; but instead they pretend like RUclips is a planet that can't be escaped from.

    • @laurencefraser
      @laurencefraser 3 года назад +1

      @@YeeLeeHaw problem: the audience doesn't move unless the vast majority of creators they care about move (to the same place), and any creators that depend on video income move Before the audience do don't last long.
      It's a known issue, and one of the causes of the occurance of natural monopolies. (Which are the reason that Monopolies aren't illegal anywhere, despite anywhere that even pretends to be reasonably having laws against practices designed to artificially create one. There are many situations where your choice is a monopoly or simply not having the good or service, either because the market is too small or because splitting it up unavoidably leads to worse outcomes).
      Generally speaking, governments in sensible places will do one of two things (depending on the nature of the goods or services in question): regulate against abuse, or nationalize the business.
      Unfortunately, the USA is utterly incompetent at the former and violently opposed to the latter (that second one is a good thing in this case, mind you.) and RUclips is an american company.

    • @YeeLeeHaw
      @YeeLeeHaw 3 года назад +1

      ​@@laurencefraser With Odysee you can automatically port all your existing videos on RUclips and every upload after that will be automatically uploaded to Odysee as well. There is no excuse for content creators when they have this convenient option available. The problem will also never become better but will grow bigger and bigger the longer they wait.
      It is a shame that it's so hard to make your followers move over. Just getting them to follow your second channel on the same site is like pulling teeth, so I understand the issue too well. But the reality is that if no one is willing to lead the way, nothing will ever change.
      With Odysee not only do we have the porting of videos, but there are already much more creators than people think there, and as we saw with the Weinstein migration, a lot of their followers actually managed to follow them to Odysee; be that a demographic that is naturally more willing to move since they already feel alienated, yes, but it is definitely possible to make the transition and still manage the finance. Now most of the content creators on here can still continue uploading on RUclips while they try to build their new home, so it's not as dramatic as many of them make it out to be.

  • @IRISHANDROID95
    @IRISHANDROID95 3 года назад +325

    Earlier on in the start of the summer I tried starting a let's play series on Metal Gear Rising. I was given a community warning that the content I was posting features war and terrorism and violent organisation content (no shit in a metal gear game ). So yeah I was disappointed I couldn't record the series as I was looking forward to jamming out to the soundtrack as I play

    • @casualcass
      @casualcass 3 года назад +40

      HUH? But i literally searched for it and there were tons of game plays for the series? That's literally awful that they gave you a content warning, for a video game series you can easily find gameplay for on other channels.

    • @IRISHANDROID95
      @IRISHANDROID95 3 года назад +39

      @@casualcass want to know a sad thing, I only had 85 subscribers at the time, it's not like anyone would see my vid cuz of the algorithm anyway

    • @casualcass
      @casualcass 3 года назад +15

      @@IRISHANDROID95 I didn't even realize the bots were that bad! Since i have like 9 subs and i basically quit making anything i wouldn't know.

    • @IRISHANDROID95
      @IRISHANDROID95 3 года назад +2

      @Isaac EDWARDS ikr, I have marked every video I uploaded as not suitable for kids and my Deadpool series is the only one I age restricted properly

    • @dannywolfpero
      @dannywolfpero 3 года назад

      In the end, it has to be this way.

  • @PhillyCh3zSt3ak
    @PhillyCh3zSt3ak 3 года назад +18

    Now more than ever content creators should be getting an archive or back-catalog uploaded to other sites like Bitchute and Odysee and then proceed to advertise that they exist so if something happens to the channel viewers know where to go for updates or just future content.

  • @AnyBodyWannaPeanut
    @AnyBodyWannaPeanut 3 года назад +9

    It's so frustrating that RUclips is remaining completely silent on these issues and failing to address or even acknowledge that there is an issue.
    Yet all kinds of shit content like 5-Minute Crafts and their ilk just continue to dump garbage.
    Being a content creator is supposed to fun and rewarding, not cruel and punishing.

  • @theelementalstation947
    @theelementalstation947 3 года назад +100

    Isn't this slander? Like, they straight up called them terrorists without reason.

    • @BuckNuttage
      @BuckNuttage 3 года назад +1

      No

    • @clumsyotaku3185
      @clumsyotaku3185 3 года назад +13

      I think if they (RUclips) were publicly posting "this person is a terrorist" ('cause that is essentially what they are insinuating), then yeah, the content creator can sue for slander. But if RUclips are not publicly sharing this false information in some way, as in this case (I assume YT just sends the content creators a warning privately), then there's nothing that can be done. That's my understanding, anyway.

    • @Jonathan-A.C.
      @Jonathan-A.C. 3 года назад

      If it’s not direct, then no

    • @shroomer3867
      @shroomer3867 3 года назад

      I like your thinking.

    • @MoonBites
      @MoonBites 3 года назад +1

      Wouldn't it be Lible, because it's written (not spoken)

  • @ZS-bg7jo
    @ZS-bg7jo 3 года назад +126

    Fundamentally.. it is a confluence of Google being too big to administer, so they automate as much as possible, and Google not flexing its power the way the old school Movie and Music companies do to get laws in place. Until a developer or someone in operations at Google is directly affected, it is not going to change any time soon.

    • @samrobinson-adams3449
      @samrobinson-adams3449 3 года назад +8

      Yup. I knew someone who interned at Google, working on RUclips, and it’s still three Django servers stashed in a (virtual) broom cupboard in Google’s massive Borg platform. Basically an forgotten-about service that they try to police with bots to minimise the annoyance, as is Google’s style, because bots are O(n) while humans are O(n*7) or whatever.

    • @loturzelrestaurant
      @loturzelrestaurant 3 года назад +2

      @@samrobinson-adams3449 Bots are so f-ing stupid
      that they dont remove P0rn-Advertisement-making Spam-Bots.
      Or 'P0rn-Spam-Bots' as i call them.
      I fight them anyway though. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesnt,
      but i keep going.
      Its fun to kick Racists off the Plattform,
      and so is destroying Spam-Bots. So if you wanna join
      and spend 5 Funny Minutes per Day,
      thats just great.
      Go and ask me how to do it and i give you a Tutorial.
      A Crash-Course.

  • @KyrieFortune
    @KyrieFortune 3 года назад +94

    People showing clips of HAMBURGER TIME for a joke: DELETE THIS
    People showing clips of literally any other CARNIVORE attack, like the sarin gas attack at the Tokyo Metro, the Bologna Station bombing, literally anything that just so happens to have nothing to do with 'Mmurica: you're good to go

    • @billcipher8645
      @billcipher8645 3 года назад +20

      EXACTLY, it makes me so angry that they somehow value one tragedy over another. I'm not devil's advocate but if they want to censor this stuff it should be consistent with EVERY TRAGEDY not only the one they care about.. it's just a slap to the face to every non-american person that their catastophies and deaths are less valued

    • @thethrashyone
      @thethrashyone 3 года назад +1

      The only one making this into an America-centric thing is you. There have been plenty of videos about tragedies outside the US that have been unduly punished by YT. AND, for that matter, I can think of plenty of vids containing 9/11 jokes that are _still up_ on YT. Don't make this into something it's not.

  • @sintua
    @sintua 3 года назад +4

    I am certain the "manual review" process is some intern/overseas hire getting 5 seconds to process the bullet points:
    - clip identified: 9/11 footage, [timestamp]
    - video category: not educational

  • @Noobul8r9000
    @Noobul8r9000 3 года назад +4

    I had a video of mine from last year blocked world wide because of a song, and they didn't specify which song. So when I re-uploaded the video, I changed all the songs to bypass YT's detection the best I could. Just another example of RUclips Guideline vagueness.

  • @MalleusSemperVictor
    @MalleusSemperVictor 3 года назад +64

    I can't wait to see all the movie reviews for the Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers to get yanked.

  • @darkstarmedia
    @darkstarmedia 3 года назад +89

    RUclips talking about how WE should explain ourselves and provide context while providing none when they flag you. Hall of Fame hypocrisy. I mean, it's a "trendy", corporate website, so I should've expected it.

    • @Evets_03
      @Evets_03 3 года назад +3

      You have to stand in awe, IN AWE, of the all-time champion of bullshit

    • @seanmills7586
      @seanmills7586 3 года назад +1

      it's because they don't care to tell you why they are messing with you, they will do it wether you like it or not.

  • @noelnyunting2431
    @noelnyunting2431 3 года назад +123

    Reminder that RUclips demonitizes Yeonmi Park's (a woman who fled North Korea when she was13) videos denouncing China and North Korea, but doesn't demonitize North Korea's videos promoting propaganda and hatred. Just to get into perspective here.

    • @internetjerk1799
      @internetjerk1799 3 года назад +6

      Got to get that sweet Chinese wan

    • @oz_jones
      @oz_jones 3 года назад +3

      @@internetjerk1799 *West Taiwanese

  • @SangerZonvolt
    @SangerZonvolt 3 года назад +8

    Case against AIs in politics: Will declare war on you for something the previous prime minister said 6 years agon because the algorythm noticed it just now.

  • @casperbinnett8265
    @casperbinnett8265 3 года назад +13

    honestly? All we need is a few of the big RUclips juggernaughts to band together and move to a different platform.

    • @planescaped
      @planescaped 3 года назад +1

      Blip closed at the worst possible time.
      Had they stuck it out literally 3 or 4 more months, they'd have likely seen a huge surge in activity. As it was right around then that youtube started to change for the worse.

  • @annajapiassu306
    @annajapiassu306 3 года назад +134

    it's almost like they're trying to erase any evidence of the event... this is a dangerous slippery slope that can lead to some seriously fucked up shit. (oof. it's hard to express this without using any of youtube's trigger words)

    • @Rokabur
      @Rokabur 3 года назад +19

      They WANT to erase history exactly SO they can enact the atrocities of the past on the people they don't like.

    • @wilmagregg3131
      @wilmagregg3131 3 года назад +11

      this is literally why everyone with common sense says never justify censorship because this is ALWAYS the end result of daddy goverment getting to decide what is allowed to be said it uses it change history at the edge of a knife

    • @Jonathan-A.C.
      @Jonathan-A.C. 3 года назад +3

      Oh believe me, the deletion of information is for a reason

    • @Jonathan-A.C.
      @Jonathan-A.C. 3 года назад +2

      @@Rokabur
      Exactly

    • @minutemansam1214
      @minutemansam1214 3 года назад

      Slippery slope is a fallacy, you know that right?

  • @calmgoodfire4662
    @calmgoodfire4662 3 года назад +95

    Isn’t that what criminals say?

  • @GodEmperorOfShorts
    @GodEmperorOfShorts 3 года назад +116

    I cant shake the feeling that this is the legal team fearing tighter regulation / stricter moderation of online content in the US, and RUclips's awfully moderation bots are just hammering literally everything because screw hiring people to do manual reviews.

    • @graphitetailgrace3870
      @graphitetailgrace3870 3 года назад +19

      Which, again, would be Susan's fault because she was blatantly dancing around FTC moderation. I really want to know what mental gymnastics led to her continuing to be CEO and, y'know, not getting detained.

    • @Laroc1982
      @Laroc1982 3 года назад +4

      The irony of creating your own legal fiasco while trying to avoid legal fiascos lol

    • @nyahnyahson523
      @nyahnyahson523 3 года назад +2

      Well, there was that thing that 45 threatened to do near the end of his reign where he wanted to get rid of speech protection laws. IE, when someone said something hateful on a platform, the platform could be held responsible.
      But I don't think we've had anything coming close to that recently, and it's too unrealistic of a standard to ever enforce.

  • @TheInternetHelpdeskPlays
    @TheInternetHelpdeskPlays 3 года назад +16

    And this is why a lot of creators are moving to things like OdySee.

  • @kakdibombom
    @kakdibombom 3 года назад +5

    Question: isn't saying people are supporting violent criminals a false accusation and technically a form of slander?

  • @basementdwellercosplay
    @basementdwellercosplay 3 года назад +75

    It's like RUclips doesn't want people to use their platform

    • @Andy-ld8zk
      @Andy-ld8zk 3 года назад +4

      And it's not like there is any other good platform that I know about. There's Twitch, but I refuse to use it because of their inequality.

    • @johannderjager4146
      @johannderjager4146 3 года назад +4

      @@Andy-ld8zk, as in the women getting better treatment than male streamers?

    • @ChamanConTenis
      @ChamanConTenis 3 года назад +2

      Oh they know they still will because they have no true competition, it's just them stiffing their content creators with excuses to not pay them what's due

    • @dimitriwillems8735
      @dimitriwillems8735 3 года назад

      @@ChamanConTenis They actually do, just nobody goes there which makes it those other platforms can't get the means to invest and improve.

    • @libra_v3
      @libra_v3 3 года назад +1

      they only want big media corporations to post their shit now, so I'm not surprised

  • @euclidelegnon8407
    @euclidelegnon8407 3 года назад +109

    The main problem is RUclips doesn't have any competition for this type of platform. So, Google basically has a monopoly with this product, which is illegal. Why is no one doing anything about this? Is it because Google has so much money? Google is a horrible company. So is AT&T, Apple, Facebook, Amazon, and Disney. I use all of these companies' products/services every day while despising the companies themselves. Well, except Apple. I find Apple to be pretty useless. But what's our alternative? If RUclipsrs find another platform to present this content on, I'll gladly follow.

    • @cookedghost
      @cookedghost 3 года назад +16

      Some content creators are also doing videos on Nebula atm
      It's a paid service, but you do get to support the creators directly and you don't get any ads

    • @euclidelegnon8407
      @euclidelegnon8407 3 года назад +3

      @@cookedghost I'll look into it. Thanks!

    • @cookedghost
      @cookedghost 3 года назад +3

      @@euclidelegnon8407 don't mention it, hope you find someone interesting!

    • @5555Jacker
      @5555Jacker 3 года назад +11

      Odysee's another viable alternative. More and more RUclips content creators are using it at least as a way to back up their videos in case they get taken down by RUclips. Best part about it is the backend (LBRY) is decentralized, so the company doesn't have as much control over it as RUclips has with their platform.

    • @remnantknight56
      @remnantknight56 3 года назад +12

      While it isn't illegal to hold a monopoly, it is illegal to be using your power as a monopoly to restrict smaller companies' ability to compete, and to force consumers to use your product and only your product. I don't know if that's quite happening here, but RUclips being the only viable option in the realm of video hosting sites is concerning.

  • @drivethroughthearttracksla6736
    @drivethroughthearttracksla6736 3 года назад +20

    "Nothing happened in Tianmen square"
    -China
    "Nothing happened in 2001"
    -RUclips
    Idk, is this comment a joke? Because if feels like lack of corporate morals
    And Im still not laughing

  • @Captainrobert007
    @Captainrobert007 3 года назад +4

    Can’t wait to watch your kissing booth 3 review

  • @critica77y77
    @critica77y77 3 года назад +6

    If you upload on BitChute or odysee, I would follow and watch you there. They’re both more creator-friendly. I know they have a reputation for having a lot of right-wing pundits, but the only way to change that is to upload other content.

  • @Closer2Zero
    @Closer2Zero 3 года назад +74

    The fact that your appeal can get immediate really injected by a bot and you have literally no other recourse or chance to appeal again is the most infuriating part of this process. What will it take, you sending them a lawsuit threat?

    • @slevinchannel7589
      @slevinchannel7589 3 года назад +2

      Dont just complain about Susan and the Reportsystems/Options!
      Do something! Some actually try to use the r-button to act. To get the plattform to
      be less s-ual and less hate-filled and less scammy.
      Does it work? Kinda, yes. Enough, at least, for me to ask if you wanna join. It costs no money, after all, so duh.

    • @NicholasEzclapz
      @NicholasEzclapz 3 года назад +3

      @@slevinchannel7589 I have a sneaking suspicion you are a scammer/bot.

    • @LucarioBot
      @LucarioBot 3 года назад

      @@NicholasEzclapz doesn’t mean we shouldn’t try out what they’re suggesting

    • @slevinchannel7589
      @slevinchannel7589 3 года назад

      @@NicholasEzclapz Why though?
      Cause i call out people who are openly Racist? Or literally threat to come to someone's home and r--- their sister?
      Cause this and more is what i did got Removed and Deleted.

    • @NicholasEzclapz
      @NicholasEzclapz 3 года назад +4

      @@slevinchannel7589 No, your grammar is really off. Like you are trying to avoid an automatic filter or something.

  • @Wardog01Actual
    @Wardog01Actual 3 года назад +62

    "We are not criminals, RUclips"
    RUclips:
    "But WE are!"

    • @oz_jones
      @oz_jones 3 года назад +2

      Member when googles motto was "Don't be evil"

    • @Wardog01Actual
      @Wardog01Actual 3 года назад

      @@oz_jones Pepperidge Farms, 'members! And so do I!

  • @kurinthekitty6842
    @kurinthekitty6842 3 года назад +53

    RUclips's Algorithms legit feels like School Dress codes where they Punish and yell at girls that are not even wearing a short skirt or a shirt that shows like an atom of there chest & the boys that are wearing only boxers or even nothing at all

    • @alakani
      @alakani 3 года назад +9

      Seriously, I see a ton of alt-right conspiracies and violence, and I respond logically and politely, and my reply gets instantly deleted while the hate speech stays up forever

    • @royalblanket
      @royalblanket 2 года назад

      @@alakani That happens on a lot of websites, specifically LGBT hate in my experience

  • @GameBreaker1055
    @GameBreaker1055 3 года назад +3

    Maybe RUclips's leading force is a sympathizer and wants people to forget about the event...

  • @scottydo5282
    @scottydo5282 3 года назад +7

    RUclips wants you to be a "family friendly" or "for kids" channel that is safe to show on the trending tab or in shorts, or else they will do anything to remove you from the website.

  • @Jolis_Parsec
    @Jolis_Parsec 3 года назад +69

    Also, as much as I think the Xbox Enforcement Team tends to go overboard at times with the amount of stuff they’ll jump on your case for, even they have the decency to provide a log of whatever the heck it was you did to warrant your punishment, just sayin’.

  • @cas9656
    @cas9656 3 года назад +72

    If there are any criminals here it's youtube themselves. I have literally zero videos on my account since I'm not a content creator and I'm expecting I'll probably get a strike at some point because of how arbitrary the guidelines are.

    • @darthcinema4262
      @darthcinema4262 3 года назад +10

      I was going to start making reviews, but I would get hit with one strike or claim after another. I don't care for the money, but having my videos get taken down over and over again because I used a song, clip, or line that isn't mine (despite showing who actually owns the clip or song) or making a "bad taste" joke is bullshit. Fuck this website.

    • @slevinchannel7589
      @slevinchannel7589 3 года назад +1

      @@darthcinema4262
      ...RUclips is indeed Messed-Up.
      And the Flag-System and those that abuse it,
      like Cancel-Culture, are definetly a part of it: BUT!!
      Theres a big But here, people.
      Some people try to be the 180 Degree Opposite of C-Culture
      and try to use the r-button like it was once meant to be used: To help.
      To g-damn help.
      I myself have gotten many Confirmed Racists,
      P0rn-channel, sexists, d-threats, homophobes,
      spam-bots and p0rn-spam-bots removed and destroyed.
      No need to thank me for stopping the Spam-Bots
      to Unite and name themselves SKYNET; i did this for my own Survival too, after all.
      But Jokes aside: If you wanna be prone to giving up, ok, you do that,
      but i have another plan.
      If your interested in that Plan and you have one of the many
      reasons-to-act that i wont even list here,
      then: Ask me Questions.
      Interested to actually do something?

    • @darthcinema4262
      @darthcinema4262 3 года назад

      @@slevinchannel7589 What kind of plan?

    • @slevinchannel7589
      @slevinchannel7589 3 года назад +1

      @@darthcinema4262
      Thats hard to explain in a comment, but i try.
      Basically, some people were apolled by Cancel-Culture but did not bite into the common misunderstanding nowadays that using the reportbutton EVER automatically turns you into C-Culture,
      as if it were contagous. Or demonic?
      Yeah... thats silly.
      People try to Help. And helping is indeed possible.

    • @slevinchannel7589
      @slevinchannel7589 3 года назад

      @@darthcinema4262
      Finding, confirming and reporting/flagging works nowhere near as good as it should; a side-effect of youtube's current messy state.
      But it does work well enough for me to recommend it to more people, so thats That.
      It works enough for me to tell you about it, so consider that.

  • @DomozoveoGZ
    @DomozoveoGZ 3 года назад +3

    This is exactly why I plan on learning how to code to create my own website

  • @TheLugiaSong
    @TheLugiaSong 3 года назад +4

    Ah, RUclips up to their usual incompetent hijinks again :) gotta love it.
    I really don't understand the bot strike appeal, that kind of defeats the whole purpose of appeal, doesn't it? Unless they're pretending it's not bots, which they're doing a terrible job at. Hopefully this Voxis situations gets enough traction to get this sorted. That seems to be the only way these things get fixed, unfortunately.

  • @2x4noah
    @2x4noah 3 года назад +49

    Our motto of Hamburger time is LITERALLY NEVER FORGET

    • @slevinchannel7589
      @slevinchannel7589 3 года назад

      Question: Seen my comment?
      The big one?
      The th-ck one?

  • @walnut5
    @walnut5 3 года назад +56

    RUclips lives on the quality of its content creators. Eventually all this nonsense will be it’s undoing when another platform lures them away.

    • @loturzelrestaurant
      @loturzelrestaurant 3 года назад

      Bots are so f-ing stupid
      that they dont remove P0rn-Advertisement-making Spam-Bots.
      Or 'P0rn-Spam-Bots' as i call them.
      I fight them anyway though. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesnt,
      but i keep going.
      Its fun to kick Racists off the Plattform,
      and so is destroying Spam-Bots. So if you wanna join
      and spend 5 Funny Minutes per Day,
      thats just great.
      Go and ask me how to do it and i give you a Tutorial.
      A Crash-Course.

  • @triggeredcat120
    @triggeredcat120 3 года назад +25

    I got my original account terminated because I called out certain content creators (and I use that term loosely) for monetizing their addictions and promotion of bad lifestyles. My account was terminated due to bullying.
    Well maybe RUclips needs to stop fool farting around and crack down on people who actually break the RUclips community guidelines.

  • @lollybowser
    @lollybowser 3 года назад +2

    This why I would never get RUclips premium. I'm not giving a company that treats it's content creators like shit extra money.

  • @loturzelrestaurant
    @loturzelrestaurant 3 года назад +3

    BE the change you want:
    Report wrong-doers and lunatics and sexists and p0rn.
    ...And Kent Hovind, to get a bit more specific.
    Some people want to be the 180 Degree Opposite of Cancel-Culture; and you?
    Its fun, its rightful, its funful. All 3 things.
    So why not kick some Karens off RUclips
    and help youtube become less hate-filled and sex-sells-full?
    ?

  • @mafuyutism
    @mafuyutism 3 года назад +34

    I've been on this website for 8 years and it's a shame that youtube has come to this. It's like once 2014 started, youtube blew a gasket and is now run by a bunch of braindead children who can't even control their damn website properly. They're basically murdering their website at this point and they have been for years. :/
    Back in 2018, one of my videos was blocked in *259* countries because of an uncopyrighted song. It's been a while, but I'm still very salty.

  • @cljerjr31
    @cljerjr31 3 года назад +95

    keep your head up.

  • @calebfitzgerald3034
    @calebfitzgerald3034 3 года назад +43

    We missed you, and we shall spread the word
    To Markiplier, Dawko, Red Letter Media, and many more

    • @bolbyballinger
      @bolbyballinger 3 года назад +6

      Seriously, pretty much every big name (or even mid sized) RUclipsr has had to deal with shit like this.
      Get them to come together and put out nothing but videos about it for a couple of days and they would turn RUclips's algorithm against itself.

    • @derlich09
      @derlich09 3 года назад +2

      definitely RedLetterMedia! Quick!

    • @UlshaRS
      @UlshaRS 3 года назад +2

      Basically put out blasts because as a he and a lot of us realized the anniversary is just a month away and it's going to get a tons of referential mentions. If the bot doing this isn't taken out and the strikes removed it will destroy the livelihoods of thousands of people in a matter of days.

  • @klc7275
    @klc7275 3 года назад +3

    RUclips, if you're reading this... I don't watch corporate channels. If the independent creators go, I'll go too. And I think a lot of other people will go too. So you better start being fair or this whole platform will die.

  • @shrivatsa7759
    @shrivatsa7759 3 года назад +2

    It is always very ironic that these money hungry soulless corporation ran by people who leave their dignity and respect in their homes when they leave to work, teach us how to be a good person and not make jokes about tragic events.

  • @lazarusthibodeaux
    @lazarusthibodeaux 3 года назад +64

    I actually like your rant videos. I laughed my ass off on your live stream about Music. So feel free to upload more and the algorithm will love you for it.

  • @edabakb
    @edabakb 3 года назад +14

    Shouldn't appeals be done by ACTUAL PEOPLE since bots obviously can not understand context? RUclips......do better wth.

  • @vampire847
    @vampire847 3 года назад +25

    If they're claiming manual reviews while having bots do it wouldn't that be a massive breach of contract and make youtube subject to a class action lawsuit?

  • @kazak8926
    @kazak8926 3 года назад +3

    Bro they ban literal german songs from the 1800s about greenforests and beautiful girls just because they were used by the Nazis at one point, its ridiculous.

  • @thatguyseb8824
    @thatguyseb8824 3 года назад +3

    I've said this before but if this continues for much longer it could legitimately be grounds for a class action lawsuit. Businesses have to meet certain consumer standards, if they don't they can get sued for it. Considering how many people now rely on sites like RUclips to make a living and the continuous, perpetual bullfuckery from RUclips when it comes to the way they seemingly enforce their community guidelines at their own discretion it's starting to look like there's a real case there. It would suck to have to go down that path but it seems like in the modern age the only way to force real change out of powerful companies is to go after their wallet.

  • @N-GinAndTonicTM
    @N-GinAndTonicTM 3 года назад +59

    The Internet - RUclips and Twitter especially - has just turned into people suddenly having a problem with things they didn't have a problem with when they were first put out.

    • @slevinchannel7589
      @slevinchannel7589 3 года назад +1

      Dont just complain about Susan and the Reportsystems/Options!
      Do something! Some actually try to use the r-button to act. To get the plattform to
      be less s-ual and less hate-filled and less scammy.
      Does it work? Kinda, yes. Enough, at least, for me to ask if you wanna join. It costs no money, after all, so duh.
      I proved that its possible by doing it. Possible enough, at least. Not perfect,
      but i hope more people reporting would help this Situation.

  • @milomuffin0
    @milomuffin0 3 года назад +28

    The dislikes are from Susan

  • @GreenestTrampler
    @GreenestTrampler 3 года назад +134

    The second another platform rises that handles stuff like this properly, I'll happily leave RUclips. It's frustrating as a content consumer to constantly see my favorite creators deal with this.

    • @justelliot4870
      @justelliot4870 3 года назад +22

      Unfortunately the main two alternatives are Bitchute (full of racists and general nasties) or Vimeo (self-explanatory). So no good contenders. Unfortunately there probably won't be either unless someone like Microsoft makes one because RUclips has run at a loss since it's founding.

    • @Guywithachair
      @Guywithachair 3 года назад +3

      Maybe Newgrownds?

    • @notoriousbig3k
      @notoriousbig3k 3 года назад +2

      @Joey Van hellsing IT can change

    • @heathersmith4042
      @heathersmith4042 3 года назад +26

      @Joey Van hellsing any platform that advertises itself as "anti-censorship" is gong to attract the people being censored. which is two groups of people, a lot of innocent people that are caught by bots, and a basket of nazis and their friends that got banned for posting death threats and doxxing people. it happens EVERY time someone starts an "anti-censorship" social media: the nazis flock to it first.

    • @thisisrex1676
      @thisisrex1676 3 года назад +1

      @@seanhubbard6033 lmao is that true. Need to check brb.

  • @jazeenharal6013
    @jazeenharal6013 3 года назад +2

    Their appeals process is opaque. Pretty sure it's just an automated server that checksums %anyvalue with "Denied"

  • @jivonne1991
    @jivonne1991 3 года назад +5

    RUclips is coming off to me as so greedy that they don’t even want to hire people to review these”warnings”. I understand that this is a huge platform and having to watch every video on here is impossible but the easiest solution to this would be to have the bots identify videos with “potential risk” and have a person actually review those videos. And even then if they find that a video is a risk they should have someone else verify it just to be sure. Without creators RUclips wouldn’t exist so why make their lives so difficult. It makes no fucking sense

  • @kcsivaranjani
    @kcsivaranjani 3 года назад +22

    The RUclips algorithm sucks so bad. I keep getting recommended the same set of videos that I've already watched but not new content from subscriptions unless I had clicked the bell. No matter the number of times I click on videos' Not Interested - I've already watched, the recommendation is not updated with new content. If I had I set notification on for a channel then I get notified but also in home page repeatedly even after watching the video.

    • @dominiquehebert4903
      @dominiquehebert4903 3 года назад +3

      @JayLeeBeanz I've even had it place a video I watched immediately before the current video I am watching in the autoplay queue. I don't even know where to start with the algorithms...

  • @tarnishedknight9909
    @tarnishedknight9909 3 года назад +31

    Joking about horrific acts are part of the coping mechanism

  • @calebcostrini
    @calebcostrini 3 года назад +20

    Everyone : "Could you at least tell us why you are striking these videos?"
    RUclips: "Why? Cause f*** em, that's why!

  • @imaginaryfanboy
    @imaginaryfanboy 3 года назад +2

    > insert clip of Norm Macdonald saying "hamburger time" and laughing

  • @michascigala4045
    @michascigala4045 3 года назад +3

    RUclips:
    *barges in*
    *calls you a criminal*
    *doesn't elaborate*
    *doesn't leave*

  • @feliperisseto9113
    @feliperisseto9113 3 года назад +38

    There are creators at this platform who openly promote all kinds of heinous shit every single vídeo, and they keep getting away with It. RUclips doesn't care, they is just trying to pretend they care for legal reasons.

    • @notoriousbig3k
      @notoriousbig3k 3 года назад +1

      But bots dont see those channels that do bad stuff?

    • @ohnoitschris
      @ohnoitschris 3 года назад

      Dhar Mann in a nutshell

    • @noless
      @noless 3 года назад +1

      @Joey Van hellsing Those you mentioned have been demonitized a long time ago.

    • @justinthibodeaux8601
      @justinthibodeaux8601 3 года назад +2

      Well they allow modern rap on RUclips so why not stuff as well

  • @valentinegonsalves7322
    @valentinegonsalves7322 3 года назад +24

    Also, gotta love how "Violent Criminal Organisation" via saying anything about tall buildings and planes in the same sentence, and gets you demonetized instead of say a lawsuit/police intervention.
    Imagine "helping" an organisation fly planes into buildings and the worse thing that happens is your phone company cuts of your 4G because that's what you usee to send the emails with the gameplans.
    If RUclips really cared and the "strikes" were true value, surely they'd inform the authorities.
    Jokes are now terrorism and the repercussions for said terrorism is...no money for you on YT, naughty boys.

    • @slevinchannel7589
      @slevinchannel7589 3 года назад

      @JayLeeBeanz
      ...RUclips is indeed Messed-Up.
      And the Flag-System and those that abuse it,
      like Cancel-Culture, are definetly a part of it: BUT!!
      Theres a big But here, people.
      Some people try to be the 180 Degree Opposite of C-Culture
      and try to use the r-button like it was once meant to be used: To help.
      To g-damn help.
      I myself have gotten many Confirmed Racists,
      P0rn-channel, sexists, d-threats, homophobes,
      spam-bots and p0rn-spam-bots removed and destroyed.
      No need to thank me for stopping the Spam-Bots
      to Unite and name themselves SKYNET; i did this for my own Survival too, after all.
      But Jokes aside: If you wanna be prone to giving up, ok, you do that,
      but i have another plan.
      If your interested in that Plan and you have one of the many
      reasons-to-act that i wont even list here,
      then: Ask me Questions.
      Interested to actually do something?
      Sorry for the comment being random, i guess? But who cares about that?
      Lets just do something.

  • @jul3249
    @jul3249 3 года назад +72

    Not a fan of Steven Crowder but apparently he’s suing RUclips for arbitrary toying with people’s livelihoods. And I support that

    • @russianvalkyrie2358
      @russianvalkyrie2358 3 года назад

      Me too.

    • @russianvalkyrie2358
      @russianvalkyrie2358 3 года назад +10

      @Babba Yaaga of course he doesnt need the money from the case. Its a matter of principle and standing up for the people who cant afford to sue youtube for whats been done to them.

    • @jul3249
      @jul3249 3 года назад +11

      @Babba Yaaga 2 things:
      - I don't really care why he does it, I care about the fact that it may bring good to creators.
      - Crowder is one strike away from getting his channel deleted completely, and I don't think he's actually rich enough to not care about that. However much I may disagree with him on many things, I don't think he deserves to have his channel, a big part of his life's work, completely stripped away from him.

    • @jamess.8279
      @jamess.8279 3 года назад +8

      @@youtubestayatyourrootsforfsake Sure. “Oh no, he made a joke about asians or black people, or something.”
      He makes fun of literally everyone, and the jokes are in the context of political issues. You don’t have to like it, but he shouldn’t be banned for it.

    • @critica77y77
      @critica77y77 3 года назад +3

      @DerL00tER You do realize that’s where this started, right? First RUclips started banning people like Alex Jones, and before you know it, boom. Adpocalypse.

  • @LazyBoi357
    @LazyBoi357 3 года назад +2

    Typical laissez faire, "let the bots handle EVERYTHING", Silicon Valley mindset, nothing new here, people.

  • @nd7042
    @nd7042 3 года назад +2

    It's because apparently youtube has a basilisk running the whole flagging thing... Literally from what I've heard on other channels who have had their ad revenue basically get stolen by someone claiming they were using THEIR music when that creator wasn't... And they had the music's artist's approval to use said music... It literally took forever for that creator to ACTUALLY get to speak to a real person... And more time for them to resolve the issue. Yet another content creator had someone posting their videos onto pornhub, said youtuber CONTACTED PH and they freaking clean that mess up QUICK!!! When a damn porn website has better management over the content posted than this excrement hole... There's a problem. One they will never fix... Seriously, the world needs a alternative where the content flagging is looked over by a real person... And should require specific proof. Because youtube and google will NEVER fix this.

  • @godemperorphatty7185
    @godemperorphatty7185 3 года назад +81

    Take the matter to the federal govt. YOUTube is operating as an employer of sorts. And refusing to pay the employee the agreed upon wages. Often They still advertise on "demonetized" videos as well. Thus they are profiting off of someones labor without compensation.

    • @Evets_03
      @Evets_03 3 года назад +21

      As much as everyone says to do this, you and them don’t realize how expensive it is to take cases like this into real life court. Most youtubers can’t afford doing this

    • @GudetamaSit
      @GudetamaSit 3 года назад +18

      @@Evets_03 This. The legal fees to fight Google would be immense. Even if you'd win the case, the fees would destroy you.

    • @WolfgangDoW
      @WolfgangDoW 3 года назад +2

      Class action?

    • @godemperorphatty7185
      @godemperorphatty7185 3 года назад +4

      @@Evets_03 All the more reason it NEEDS to be done.

    • @JNJNRobin1337
      @JNJNRobin1337 3 года назад

      This Is Why The RUclipsrs Union Is Apparently A Thing