1:24:40 Steve Millen's career ending crash. Kind of brushed over in the broadcast, but he had a broken neck and skull with blood coming out of his ears.
Such a horrific crash, had to look up what became of the guys. Literally took years, but both Dale and Barbazza made a full recovery, all though their racing careers on a professional level were cut short by the accident. Dale went on to be a motorsport commentator and eventually started his own racing team, while Barbazza first openend up a kart-track in Monza, and later started a fishing restort on Cuba (if anyone got a better retirement plan than that let me know) and he still karts there at the local track.
+Randy Dubin , I know, right?!? I was wondering when I was digitizing it if Paul had done other sportscar races. This is the only one I've ever seen him do.
The 89 car that started the events of that big crash was a pretty big hit too! See his glasses hanging in his window net at 22:48! Thanks for upload, been watch these of late... . This was about when I started..
+raikkonen2013 , thanks! It's not really me, though. It's the sport. Ours is the best on Earth. Long story short, I think there are two things humans do that are remarkable. We compete for fun when we don't have to compete for resources, and we build things. So let's compete in some of the stuff we built! IMO, motor racing is the "most human" of sports. I just feel fortunate that I was able to be part of it, even if it was just marshaling, or being a mid-pack club racer, or a terrible autocrosser, or an ineffective Rally co-driver. I actually got to do it. And I think I'm a better person because of that.
Wow what a dangerous track: no walls on the back stretch (just dirt banks), aiming at a bridge at the end of the lap, no run off areas, marshals exposed. Lovely track layout though.
+Anthony Kernich That's Road Atlanta before they changed it. The long straight to the bridge now has a bus-stop at the end of it to get rid of the very issue you identified. There's been many improvements.
+Anthony Kernich , we're (the marshal "we") definitely much safer now than then. Oddly enough, it has lead to a problem in recruitment. Many who did it here in the US were young people who weren't serious fans of the sport, but wanted something exiting to do. When we added the barriers & fencing, a lot of those people started mountain biking or hang-gliding or something. It's a real problem over here, and I have no idea how we'll fix it.
+Anthony Kernich , true story: After I had to quit racing, I crewed for a buddy of mine who was still at it. He had a '90s Honda Civic (EG6? still drives me crazy that J-car companies change chassis designations for displacement & body style). SCCA Improved Touring rules let us have some suspension upgrades, but not much for engines or brakes. First Road Atlanta event after the chicane got laid in (1998), he comes in about half-way through P1, and goes straight up to the paddock. We go run back up there, and he's shouting, "BRAKES! I NEED BRAKES!" I said, "Hell, Tim..the car ain't never had brakes." He replied, "Yeah, I know..but I never *needed* 'em" before!!". The rules disallowed proportioning valves, IIRC, we ended up with some fairly aggressive Hawks on the front, and stock rear shoes to slow it down without spinning it. Went through a lot of front rotors and rear shoes!
How the hell did IMSA justify the switch to WSC again? They keep telling me GTP "collapsed" when it dropped to 3 manufacturers, but surely WSC is a miserable failure for only ever having 2? If IMSA held onto the GTP formula for a couple more years, they had a near-guarantee of 7 manufacturers competing at once. So again, what am I missing? How was GTP a failure and WSC a success? Or LMP, for that matter? Or DP, or DPi??
must b young. Olds had the engine for a while. & Only competitive engine in the irl for a few yrs..oh rite ur young , irl.. thats the indy racing league
And now they've made a stupid chicane, before the blind corner under the bridge.. which was a challenge. Plus added a big asphalt piece, so the exit from the esses is reduced to kids play
If you think Road Atlanta is somehow neutered, you're nuts. That track is STILL a massive challenge for anyone who drives it. it's just a touch safer WHEN things do go wrong....not if, when...
Wrong assessment on the technical skill required to drive Road Atlanta. It is immense. The chicane you refer to is 10A and 10B and I can tell you personally your sphincter is fibrillating at its natural resonance frequency if you ever drove that track with a high powered sports car. And you get to do it over and over.
Relax... Never gave the track any grief. The chicane and the exit of the esses patch of asphalt. It doesn't make it any safer to change the layout. It does however to divert the forces. As with safer-rails, HANS, crumble-zones, etc.. It sure was a game of most guts, to go under the bridge the fastest, considering you come from the very long 200+ mph straight, and not braking too much would gain higher topspeed on the start/finish straight. Where it could also be a late-brake challenge before turn 1, because of the higher speed. And your exit from the esses had to be spot on.. while controlling the power over the small crest, or the wheels could catch the gravel-trap and you'd loose valuable topspeed. It was more challenging, when you include those. Almost the entire track, was break-neck speed and pinpoint accuracy. Braking downhill for a chicane, shortshifting under the bridge. And you plow over the huge rumble patch, when exiting the esses, somehow nobody ever gets in trouble for coming so far out, it throws up dust along the guardrail. Perhaps flying dust gives better tv images, than cars flying through corners with incredible pace
Road Atlanta is a institution in american racing history. The story behind its creation, and incredible reformation into racing story, and memorable moments from the many many IMSA races. Personal experiences had by perhaps billions of people through the times.. But you can also use that tribute, to many other fine tracks that have stayed the same to this day, even when people were seriously hurt
IMSA is a particular championship, in Europe the C-Groupe and Proto don't race in the urban track, last week i see the Dallas-Trans Am Gp in the Fair Park.
Factory Nissan has been using those colors since the 70/80’s….before Russia used those colors for their flag…..they were still using the Red hammer/sickle up until 91. Lots of countries use red/white/blue lol…..
1:24:40 Steve Millen's career ending crash. Kind of brushed over in the broadcast, but he had a broken neck and skull with blood coming out of his ears.
Such a horrific crash, had to look up what became of the guys.
Literally took years, but both Dale and Barbazza made a full recovery, all though their racing careers on a professional level were cut short by the accident. Dale went on to be a motorsport commentator and eventually started his own racing team, while Barbazza first openend up a kart-track in Monza, and later started a fishing restort on Cuba (if anyone got a better retirement plan than that let me know) and he still karts there at the local track.
Peter Timowreef wow that was brutal
@Samuel Callum Pretty amazing that it took 20 minutes when your comment was posted 16 minutes after Jeanett's.
Paul Page & David Hobbs. Talk about a match made in Motorsport TV heaven. Sounds like a motorsports broadcasting HOF induction ceremony.
+Randy Dubin , I know, right?!? I was wondering when I was digitizing it if Paul had done other sportscar races. This is the only one I've ever seen him do.
There's an imsa race here on RUclips from 1986 that paul page and bobby unser commentated.
It was the 1986 Camel GT series Miami Grand Prix
Not David Hobbs
He may be British but as a commentator he's annoying
Paul Page can also be annoying as well
The 89 car that started the events of that big crash was a pretty big hit too! See his glasses hanging in his window net at 22:48! Thanks for upload, been watch these of late... . This was about when I started..
Bill Auberlin has been racing since dinosaurs were still around. lol
Alot of destroyed cars in this one. Total carnage.
Dude you're on a different level of Cool! this is amazing!
+raikkonen2013 , thanks! It's not really me, though. It's the sport. Ours is the best
on Earth. Long story short, I think there are two things humans do that
are remarkable. We compete for fun when we don't have to compete for
resources, and we build things. So let's compete in some of the stuff we
built! IMO, motor racing is the "most human" of sports. I just feel
fortunate that I was able to be part of it, even if it was just
marshaling, or being a mid-pack club racer, or a terrible autocrosser,
or an ineffective Rally co-driver. I actually got to do it. And I think I'm a better person because of that.
you're sooo right, Marshalling is fun!
Wow what a dangerous track: no walls on the back stretch (just dirt banks), aiming at a bridge at the end of the lap, no run off areas, marshals exposed. Lovely track layout though.
+Anthony Kernich That's Road Atlanta before they changed it. The long straight to the bridge now has a bus-stop at the end of it to get rid of the very issue you identified. There's been many improvements.
+Anthony Kernich , we're (the marshal "we") definitely much safer now than then. Oddly enough, it has lead to a problem in recruitment. Many who did it here in the US were young people who weren't serious fans of the sport, but wanted something exiting to do. When we added the barriers & fencing, a lot of those people started mountain biking or hang-gliding or something. It's a real problem over here, and I have no idea how we'll fix it.
+VolksDragon no question its safer, but they still have retained the challenge
+Anthony Kernich , true story: After I had to quit racing, I crewed for a buddy of mine who was still at it. He had a '90s Honda Civic (EG6? still drives me crazy that J-car companies change chassis designations for displacement & body style). SCCA Improved Touring rules let us have some suspension upgrades, but not much for engines or brakes. First Road Atlanta event after the chicane got laid in (1998), he comes in about half-way through P1, and goes straight up to the paddock. We go run back up there, and he's shouting, "BRAKES! I NEED BRAKES!" I said, "Hell, Tim..the car ain't never had brakes." He replied, "Yeah, I know..but I never *needed* 'em" before!!". The rules disallowed proportioning valves, IIRC, we ended up with some fairly aggressive Hawks on the front, and stock rear shoes to slow it down without spinning it. Went through a lot of front rotors and rear shoes!
+oldSCCAguy yah Who needs brakes in a Honda? :P
Any '98 FC MidOhio Runoffs footage in the archives?Love it all keep up the good work.
22mins in and the crash between Fabrizio Barbazza and Jeremy Dale is a big one.
HA!.The first commercial for a Motorola phone!
How the hell did IMSA justify the switch to WSC again? They keep telling me GTP "collapsed" when it dropped to 3 manufacturers, but surely WSC is a miserable failure for only ever having 2?
If IMSA held onto the GTP formula for a couple more years, they had a near-guarantee of 7 manufacturers competing at once. So again, what am I missing? How was GTP a failure and WSC a success? Or LMP, for that matter? Or DP, or DPi??
Sportscar racing as a whole suffered a collapse after Group C failed and IMSA fell apart in the early 90's. Honestly Don Panoz brought it all back.
When they take cover off #6, sure looks like standard small block Chev! Not Olds dohc V8
Que paso con millen? El cerro al Ferrari? Alguien podría explicar?
One of the worst wrecks in sports car racing history.
Bill auberlin has been racing for a long time
Ferrari vs. Oldsmobile!?!?!? I’m so confused
must b young. Olds had the engine for a while. & Only competitive engine in the irl for a few yrs..oh rite ur young , irl.. thats the indy racing league
@@chejohnny3706was definitely born in the wrong era lol
DANG!
I think I see Lew Larimers GT1 Championship car.....years before it was champion.
And now they've made a stupid chicane, before the blind corner under the bridge.. which was a challenge.
Plus added a big asphalt piece, so the exit from the esses is reduced to kids play
If you think Road Atlanta is somehow neutered, you're nuts. That track is STILL a massive challenge for anyone who drives it. it's just a touch safer WHEN things do go wrong....not if, when...
Wrong assessment on the technical skill required to drive Road Atlanta. It is immense. The chicane you refer to is 10A and 10B and I can tell you personally your sphincter is fibrillating at its natural resonance frequency if you ever drove that track with a high powered sports car. And you get to do it over and over.
Relax... Never gave the track any grief. The chicane and the exit of the esses patch of asphalt.
It doesn't make it any safer to change the layout. It does however to divert the forces. As with safer-rails, HANS, crumble-zones, etc..
It sure was a game of most guts, to go under the bridge the fastest, considering you come from the very long 200+ mph straight, and not braking too much would gain higher topspeed on the start/finish straight.
Where it could also be a late-brake challenge before turn 1, because of the higher speed.
And your exit from the esses had to be spot on.. while controlling the power over the small crest, or the wheels could catch the gravel-trap and you'd loose valuable topspeed.
It was more challenging, when you include those. Almost the entire track, was break-neck speed and pinpoint accuracy.
Braking downhill for a chicane, shortshifting under the bridge.
And you plow over the huge rumble patch, when exiting the esses, somehow nobody ever gets in trouble for coming so far out, it throws up dust along the guardrail.
Perhaps flying dust gives better tv images, than cars flying through corners with incredible pace
Road Atlanta is a institution in american racing history. The story behind its creation, and incredible reformation into racing story, and memorable moments from the many many IMSA races. Personal experiences had by perhaps billions of people through the times..
But you can also use that tribute, to many other fine tracks that have stayed the same to this day, even when people were seriously hurt
This was on YT a while back but the original uploader terminated his account. :(
IMSA is a particular championship, in Europe the C-Groupe and Proto don't race in the urban track, last week i see the Dallas-Trans Am Gp in the Fair Park.
So ironic watching the front end of the Nissan 300 ZX with the Z letter and the colours of the Russian flag
Factory Nissan has been using those colors since the 70/80’s….before Russia used those colors for their flag…..they were still using the Red hammer/sickle up until 91. Lots of countries use red/white/blue lol…..