Thank you Dan for doing yet another gem for us! Many great tricks in there - my favorite one is the audio-triggered gate with the "compression" curve. And indeed, ShaperBox is on Black Friday sale now, so that's ReverbShaper + 9 more Shapers.
The idea of multiband IRs for guitar cabs is so obviously brilliant and I never would have considered it in a million years. Great stuff as always Dan!
Stunning tool! Dan, as a long time viewer of your channel, let me say a huge "thank you" for sharing your remarkable ideas and techniques with the world. You are a credit to the craft of audio engineering.
dan, i just discovered your channel a few weeks ago and i have to say it is the most informative, fascinating, educational, and entertaining channel on this side of youtube. this content is absolute gold.
FFS... There was I thinking I was going to leave getting this update to ShaperBox because I don't really need any more reverbs and then you go and show us all the crazy unexpected shit it can do. Great vid, as always.
ShaperBox is too smart for me. I have it, I like it, but I never use it because I simply lack the creativity to get the most out of it. Will happily steal some of yours though!
I have long meant to buy the Shaper set. This video, up to your usual high standard, has convinced me to so. I hope your ongoing health issue set has ameliorated a bit. Thanks for making the effort to share, in any case.
So good! I just grinned during the entire video. So, so much rich information poured into a brilliant demonstration. I guess I'm going to add the reverb. . .
Wow using Shaperbox Reverb for guitars was eye opening. I definitely need to search out more Shaperbox tutorials. I don’t understand how to use it as effectively as I should.
As for the "don't need sends" convenience, big shoutout to Reaper 7 and it's parallel FX + the Sexan Paranormal FX Router. He's included easy to use multibanding as well - purest convenience.
@@DanWorrall Same here. Bought a new workstation pc at the start of october. And the day i bought it i catched C19 and its got me laying flat for 3 weeks in total. 😄 So, how is your new machine doing atm?😉
I somehow missed the first video about ShaperBox, have never heard of any of this stuff before, and bought the entire bundle immediately based off this video. In case anyone out there is wondering whether sponsoring a product video on Dan's channel is worth it 😂
speaking of multiband IRs, guitar cabs tend to honk at 600hz range so the phase cancellation might actually help if you tune it right, and as a bonus you might also remove the harshness and other problems that come with several factors which contributed to the capturing process.
Gate reverb techniques + Dan Worrall + Cool plugins + multiband IR cabs all in a single video. OK, the universe can just self-destroy now, it can't get better than this. I'm as happy as a VU metre in the loudness wars.
Sure! Ps: Whitout asskissin, I think you're an audio guru! You look at the plugin and know what it's doing in detail. Every time I learn something new. Do you know the youtuber Baphometrix? He's like you, a brainiak. But unfortunately something happened to him. He doesn't post anymore.
Oh Dan, you make my day - each time I watch one of your videos. I was on the edge of my seat when you loaded in those guitar cabs - unfortunately you used the word "obviously" every time when I was like "WTF? Why is this working this way? And how this parameter now controls something entirely different?". Christmas would be early this year if you could elaborate a bit more about what goes on there - I mean, apart from the obvious ;-)
Sorry! Gain controls as EQ: if you split the signal into three different bands, then boost the gain for just the high band, that's like boosting a high shelf EQ. Instead of one gain control you have three, each controlling just part of the spectrum. Ducking: this is actually compression, but the dry input signal feeds the sidechain of a compressor processing the wet output signal. With a reverb impulse that has a long tail that means the reverb is ducked for the duration of the dry signal then rides back up afterwards. But a guitar cab impulse has no long tail; timing wise it's much the same as the input; so the ducking reverts to just being compression again. Was there anything else I should have explained better?
@@DanWorrall Thanks a ton! No need to explain anything else more in depth - at least not for me; your explanation really made things clear for me. May I add one thing? I cannot remember when I subscribed, but it was my ticket into really get a grip at all the gear that I am using (don't matter if analog or digital), and it was one of those lucky days, when I just found the right channel to subscribe to. Can't value the time and effort you put into those videos enough, so please accept my heartfelt 'thank you'!
About resampling being the term for varispeed/tape-style pitch shifting, I can see a probable explanation, although I don't think I'd associate resampling with varispeed. It's exactly the lack of initial "re"sampling that produces the result. It's usually done (at the low level) by adjusting the samplerate of the sound. If you were to set the samplerate, without "re"sampling, it would change the pitch/speed of the sound, hence why varispeed shifting a sound lower and lower starts to lose fidelity. At the end, we would resample from the new sample rate, e.g., if our original sound was 44.1k and we wanted an octave down, now our samplerate would be 22.5k, to 44.1k.
This is not quite correct. In this case we want it to speed up or slow down. But the sound needs to end up back at the project samplerate, so the sped up / slowed down sample needs to be resampled back to that rate.
@@DanWorrall You're right, thank you for the correction. I didn't explain it quite well. My point was that it is the lack of "re"sampling initially that produces the results we need. Edited my original comment. Thank you for the video, too. 🙏
Note that we're also applying some EQ under the hood when turning the Size parameter for more balanced changes to make up a bit for changes in frequency response. Thanks also to the great input from Yoad Nevo here..
Yo Dan, great to see you! I was thinking about your separation trick but can`t set it up when hardpanned doubletracked guitars conflict with some mono instrument. Any tips here?
I always process hard panned guitars with mid side EQ on a bus. Try notching problem frequencies out of just the M channel. The more MS EQ you use the less the guitars will be actually hard panned afterwards, but I usually think the results sound better regardless.
The juxtaposition your audio sophistication with your typeface choices is quite amusing. Ii wish you'd make a video using some audio equivalents of Comic Sans, whatever that might be. Not exact equivalents.but how about something like Billy Don't be a Hero or Sugar Sugar. Sorry for totally ignoring the excellent video content in this comment
I thought multiband IRs on guitar would be considered one of the standard approaches I’ve been doing this for years now, although it looks easier in ReverbShaper
i wasn't interested in reverbshaper before but the fact that the IR resampler is smooth is tempting. normally this is not the case in convolvers because recalculating the entire IR is an expensive non-realtime-friendly process. can it be automated in this plugin? i don't expect that to perform well, but would be cool if it worked at all. also i'd like to add smth to your statement that you could also just automate the gain on a reverb send without this MSEG. yes, butthen it wouldn't be sampleaccurate. your squary curves would produce an inconsistent sound on larger buffer sizes on transientheavy material. that's why plugin-internal modulation systems are mostly better than DAW-automation
Actually we considered allowing to automate the Size slider (and the Decay slider), but then we think that for automation the CPU hit would be too high (a small CPU spike while moving the sliders is acceptable, but with automation it might give a bad experience). Thanks for noticing that you can edit those without any silence gaps!
@@Cableguys without silence gaps and without discontinuities in general :) still no automation, but i guess with the smooth sound i could at least record a performance on that knob
I could see this potentially great for reggae Dub. Creating filter sweeps on the reverb, similar to King Tubby or scientist. Are each off the parameters automatable?
I've thought about making an FM bass video, but I can't decide which synth to use. I used Falcon for this one, but not everyone will have it. Is there a good free FM synth that's not a complete pain to use?
The way this reverb plugin is setup is amazing. Not sure if I'd trust a cable guys plugin however. The older I get the more quality effecient I get as will. Where quality is the most important quality in any product I might buy or use. And I'm unfamiliar with CableGuys plugins.
Thank you Dan for doing yet another gem for us! Many great tricks in there - my favorite one is the audio-triggered gate with the "compression" curve. And indeed, ShaperBox is on Black Friday sale now, so that's ReverbShaper + 9 more Shapers.
At first, I was thinking it would be like a rehash of Effectrix. So glad to be wrong. It's a thoughtful intrepation with many useful features.
@@dazzw Delay is one of the top requests right now indeed. So good chance :-)
Looking forward for the delay shaper CableGuys
Hi, and thanks for welcoming me back.
Tank you
The idea of multiband IRs for guitar cabs is so obviously brilliant and I never would have considered it in a million years. Great stuff as always Dan!
4x12 for the lower frequencies, 2x12 for the midrange, and 1x12 for the upper frequencies, it's a win-win!
been using it since I discovered Overloud THU Supercabinet.
Pure genius
I always feel my mind expanding a little bit every time i watch one of your videos
Haha me reading ur comment feeling like my brain is exploding😂
I'm a guitarist, not a sound designer-very glad I stayed to the end; that chapter on the ability to customize guitar cabinet IRs was really cool! -Tom
Hey Dan, hope your health is improving, love from France 💜💜
For me personally, Shaper Box 3 is the best Plugin in the last few years. Really useful, really good.
Stunning tool! Dan, as a long time viewer of your channel, let me say a huge "thank you" for sharing your remarkable ideas and techniques with the world. You are a credit to the craft of audio engineering.
dan, i just discovered your channel a few weeks ago and i have to say it is the most informative, fascinating, educational, and entertaining channel on this side of youtube. this content is absolute gold.
His series for FabFilter are also highly recommended. A must-watch for anyone with audio ambitions.
Dan, as always, I tip my head to your excellence in demonstrating these tools. Simply brilliant!
FFS... There was I thinking I was going to leave getting this update to ShaperBox because I don't really need any more reverbs and then you go and show us all the crazy unexpected shit it can do.
Great vid, as always.
Welcome back Dan! The guitar cabinet idea is so powerful. The gating and ducking are also excellent reasons I might buy this.
Even before watching the video Dan has already convinced me to upgrade. 😂
This is utterly fantastic. I now need shaperbox.
Holy shit. The size tweaking of the IR when used for a cab sim is so cool. That offers so much more tonal opportunities.
the music absolutely creeps me out... I love it
Hey cableguys.Thank you for an attractive upgrade to reverbshaper. It's a pleasure to have so mighty plugins at this loyalty price!
This convolution amp tips is a must, thx
ShaperBox is too smart for me. I have it, I like it, but I never use it because I simply lack the creativity to get the most out of it. Will happily steal some of yours though!
this work is genius, can't wait to see how cableguys will continue to design such elegant and well-thought tools in the future
The guitar cab ir bit at the end was awesome
'Master Jedi Dan' so good to see you back, totally awesome detailed review video 10/10
I have long meant to buy the Shaper set.
This video, up to your usual high standard, has convinced me to so.
I hope your ongoing health issue set has ameliorated a bit. Thanks for making the effort to share, in any case.
awesone! want the track in the video be published!
It's already there!
So good! I just grinned during the entire video. So, so much rich information poured into a brilliant demonstration. I guess I'm going to add the reverb. . .
Genuinely had no intention of buying this, then Dan did a video. Bought.
Thank you DW.
We can always rely on you to uncover hidden depths. 👍
A curve setting of the envelope like Fog Convolver would be good here
His tracks are always something else
Wow using Shaperbox Reverb for guitars was eye opening. I definitely need to search out more Shaperbox tutorials. I don’t understand how to use it as effectively as I should.
Second reverb video in a row… and I’m here for it.
Dan and Shaperbox fits greatly together. It's always a pleasure to see what's possible if the right guy meets the right software!
As for the "don't need sends" convenience, big shoutout to Reaper 7 and it's parallel FX + the Sexan Paranormal FX Router. He's included easy to use multibanding as well - purest convenience.
Good to see you back. I bought shaperbox a few days ago, so what a timing.
if these guys go granular or spectral, that will be one of the craziest changes
you mightve not sold me shaperbox but i greatly appreciate these tips
Ahh.. He's back. Finally 😊
Dan you are simply the best!!! Thanks
Yo Dan, glad to see that you are productive again. Has your health improved?
Improving, or I'm learning to manage it better. The pause was more to do with getting a new studio computer.
@@DanWorrall Same here. Bought a new workstation pc at the start of october. And the day i bought it i catched C19 and its got me laying flat for 3 weeks in total. 😄 So, how is your new machine doing atm?😉
@@KlaraKopf it's great! Did the latest FabFilter video in true 4k, 50fps, and it still rendered faster than they used to...
@@DanWorrall feels like actually using a tool again, not a toy!😄
Excellent work! Thank you!
How the hell do you make these videos? This is probably your best so far!
I somehow missed the first video about ShaperBox, have never heard of any of this stuff before, and bought the entire bundle immediately based off this video. In case anyone out there is wondering whether sponsoring a product video on Dan's channel is worth it 😂
Certainly!
Thanks DAN !! really great demonstration of what ReverbShaper can do.. and BTW, nice to hear about you ;-)
speaking of multiband IRs, guitar cabs tend to honk at 600hz range so the phase cancellation might actually help if you tune it right, and as a bonus you might also remove the harshness and other problems that come with several factors which contributed to the capturing process.
13:51 ah yes, the trick that metal guys use to clamp down on the chugs, popularized by the one and only Andy Sneap.
Great to see Dan back!
Great tips (and review) combined in one video Dan! Kudos!
Good video as always. I actually use a lot of these tips you mentioned in my mixes
this guy knows it all
Gate reverb techniques + Dan Worrall + Cool plugins + multiband IR cabs all in a single video. OK, the universe can just self-destroy now, it can't get better than this. I'm as happy as a VU metre in the loudness wars.
Another great one,Dan. Thank you. Stay well.
Long live Lord Dan 🙇 we are not worthy 🙇
Amazing tutorial. Fantastic presentation and demonstration of this wonderful plugin. 🥰
Great to hear from you again 🖤
The only channel I trust 🤘💀🍻🔥
I don't own this product, and who knows if I ever will. Regardless, I always learn so much from Dan's videos that it's an instant click.
The cab ir thing at the end.. yes please.
Amazing, and this track is sick!
i use fruity convolver but the sheer amount of tips you put into these videos are useful even in non clableguys plugins. great video as always
Convolver is so powerful. Amazing plug in.
killer update and all, but this track man, well done dan amazing stuff
Yay! A new Dan Worrall video!!!
For a long time I have wondered why resampling/pitching cabinet/speaker impulses is not a thing.
Your music is just incredible!
So good to hear your voice again :)
Very good ReverbShaper tutorial, thanks ✌
Incredible
Hey Dan again glad to hear you!
Sure!
Ps: Whitout asskissin,
I think you're an audio guru! You look at the plugin and know what it's doing in detail. Every time I learn something new.
Do you know the youtuber Baphometrix? He's like you, a brainiak. But unfortunately something happened to him. He doesn't post anymore.
Thanks! But that wasn't me that replied, someone is using my logo...
Outstanding video as always!
Oh Dan, you make my day - each time I watch one of your videos. I was on the edge of my seat when you loaded in those guitar cabs - unfortunately you used the word "obviously" every time when I was like "WTF? Why is this working this way? And how this parameter now controls something entirely different?". Christmas would be early this year if you could elaborate a bit more about what goes on there - I mean, apart from the obvious ;-)
Sorry!
Gain controls as EQ: if you split the signal into three different bands, then boost the gain for just the high band, that's like boosting a high shelf EQ. Instead of one gain control you have three, each controlling just part of the spectrum.
Ducking: this is actually compression, but the dry input signal feeds the sidechain of a compressor processing the wet output signal. With a reverb impulse that has a long tail that means the reverb is ducked for the duration of the dry signal then rides back up afterwards. But a guitar cab impulse has no long tail; timing wise it's much the same as the input; so the ducking reverts to just being compression again.
Was there anything else I should have explained better?
@@DanWorrall Thanks a ton! No need to explain anything else more in depth - at least not for me; your explanation really made things clear for me. May I add one thing? I cannot remember when I subscribed, but it was my ticket into really get a grip at all the gear that I am using (don't matter if analog or digital), and it was one of those lucky days, when I just found the right channel to subscribe to. Can't value the time and effort you put into those videos enough, so please accept my heartfelt 'thank you'!
Class From Legend👑🤍
Nice beat.
Awesomeness!
You're a wizard
Love you Dan!
Could you take a look at the recently refreshed Eventide channel strip plugins?
Dan FTW
Wow amazing 🔥🔥🔥💯
Love this song!
Hi, and welcome back!!
Love the thumbnail hha
Not to mention you can trigger different env shapes with midi
Yes!
About resampling being the term for varispeed/tape-style pitch shifting, I can see a probable explanation, although I don't think I'd associate resampling with varispeed. It's exactly the lack of initial "re"sampling that produces the result. It's usually done (at the low level) by adjusting the samplerate of the sound. If you were to set the samplerate, without "re"sampling, it would change the pitch/speed of the sound, hence why varispeed shifting a sound lower and lower starts to lose fidelity. At the end, we would resample from the new sample rate, e.g., if our original sound was 44.1k and we wanted an octave down, now our samplerate would be 22.5k, to 44.1k.
This is not quite correct. In this case we want it to speed up or slow down. But the sound needs to end up back at the project samplerate, so the sped up / slowed down sample needs to be resampled back to that rate.
@@DanWorrall You're right, thank you for the correction. I didn't explain it quite well. My point was that it is the lack of "re"sampling initially that produces the results we need. Edited my original comment. Thank you for the video, too. 🙏
Note that we're also applying some EQ under the hood when turning the Size parameter for more balanced changes to make up a bit for changes in frequency response. Thanks also to the great input from Yoad Nevo here..
D A G U R U
Q ??? For black friday i bought a ssl fusion , what should i get for the insert? 1 spl vitalizer 2 a secondary pc for plugins ?3........???
Yo Dan, great to see you! I was thinking about your separation trick but can`t set it up when hardpanned doubletracked guitars conflict with some mono instrument. Any tips here?
I always process hard panned guitars with mid side EQ on a bus. Try notching problem frequencies out of just the M channel. The more MS EQ you use the less the guitars will be actually hard panned afterwards, but I usually think the results sound better regardless.
@@DanWorrall thank you
The juxtaposition your audio sophistication with your typeface choices is quite amusing. Ii wish you'd make a video using some audio equivalents of Comic Sans, whatever that might be. Not exact equivalents.but how about something like Billy Don't be a Hero or Sugar Sugar.
Sorry for totally ignoring the excellent video content in this comment
As normal. A master at work! Thanks Dan
of course you can 👍
Wasn't me. Someone using my logo. Weird.
Love the cool tips! fun things to tryyyy XD
Simply dope.
I thought multiband IRs on guitar would be considered one of the standard approaches
I’ve been doing this for years now, although it looks easier in ReverbShaper
Dan can sell me things I already own. lol
We love Dan don’t we folks.
I suppose you got your new computer and would like to know what you got and the specification of it as well
welp...time to buy another plugin. i love the clear tails feature
i wasn't interested in reverbshaper before but the fact that the IR resampler is smooth is tempting. normally this is not the case in convolvers because recalculating the entire IR is an expensive non-realtime-friendly process. can it be automated in this plugin? i don't expect that to perform well, but would be cool if it worked at all.
also i'd like to add smth to your statement that you could also just automate the gain on a reverb send without this MSEG. yes, butthen it wouldn't be sampleaccurate. your squary curves would produce an inconsistent sound on larger buffer sizes on transientheavy material. that's why plugin-internal modulation systems are mostly better than DAW-automation
Actually we considered allowing to automate the Size slider (and the Decay slider), but then we think that for automation the CPU hit would be too high (a small CPU spike while moving the sliders is acceptable, but with automation it might give a bad experience). Thanks for noticing that you can edit those without any silence gaps!
@@Cableguys without silence gaps and without discontinuities in general :) still no automation, but i guess with the smooth sound i could at least record a performance on that knob
I could see this potentially great for reggae Dub. Creating filter sweeps on the reverb, similar to King Tubby or scientist. Are each off the parameters automatable?
Ok, ok, I'm upgrading 😅 But we need your presets in the plug-in Dan!
I prefer useful stuff and not to much gimmicky things that often flood plugins.
Great tutorial dan! Id love to see how the hell you made that fm bass sound as well
I've thought about making an FM bass video, but I can't decide which synth to use. I used Falcon for this one, but not everyone will have it. Is there a good free FM synth that's not a complete pain to use?
@@DanWorrallDexed is sort of the “goto” FM synth that’s free, and multi-platform. Not sure if it’s the easiest to wrap one’s head around however.
@@DanWorrall I love Vital as a free option, it's got FM and a ton of modulation options since it's also a wavetable synth.
@@DanWorrall surge is a free, open-source hybrid synth that includes FM. check it out. glad to see you back, btw!
I wanna know about Dan’s new super computer.
The way this reverb plugin is setup is amazing. Not sure if I'd trust a cable guys plugin however. The older I get the more quality effecient I get as will. Where quality is the most important quality in any product I might buy or use. And I'm unfamiliar with CableGuys plugins.