I ended up being an EMT for a survival school and after three days of watching students try to make fire from the fire bow. It was more powerful than me... I couldn't shut up any more. so I got my supplies and during lunch break I showed the class including the instructors . the counter weight pump drill. I told them different areas in the world might have dryer wood where a bow drill or even a friction fire might work. but in a wet area the pump drill will get so hot it will start a fire. you can scale it up or down and they still work. available materials will determine the size, and the pump drill is much easier on you're cordage/ laces/ rope/ roots . the bow drill causes a lot of heat and stress in the rope
Thanks for the video. You could tell at the beginning that your design tweak was an improvement on the dynamics. I love how you made a replaceable plug to avoid having to rebuild the whole assembly. Nicely done!
This counterweight is a great nuance. It is extremely hard to primitively create a hole in a round rock and very time consuming to bake a clay counterweight. Thanks for the video.
Thank you very much brother for the video! I am from Colombia South America here for the indigenous communities it is very important to produce the sacred fire in this way in fact it is called "origin fire" or "original fire" and this is always used in this way for important rituals or ceremonies with power plants , word circles, etc... Fire is considered something sacred, it is also a grandfather, the oldest in the Universe! Thank you
Aweeome man! What part of Colombia? My wife is from Cali and we are planning on visiting soon would be great to get together with other bushcrafters while there
I could not agree more. whoever came up with this, thousands of years ago, was a genius. This person is not. He simply took an already existing idea and tweaked it a bit with a different counterweight arm design. In fact, his design is flawed with how much mass there is. It takes so much force to get into motion that it's not worth the trouble of adding stones. The wood arm itself would provide enough mass to keep it in motion.
You can remove the spindle's tapering requirement by providing a cross-pin (either below or through the "counterweight" assembly) and lashing the counterweight assembly to the spindle at that point. It is less robust if the assembly is struck while rotating, but it can make it easier/faster to construct when starting quickly the fire is important. If you have an opportunity to update the video, you might also talk a little bit about methods to balance the "counterweight" (e.g. sliding rocks in/out along the assembly), or a method of determining the center-of-mass point in order to drill the hole in the right place for an arbitrary placement and varying size/mass of rocks. (btw, thanks for proper centripetal v. centrifugal)
None of will ever probably use our survival skills but it’s so good to have mostly for are mental health the feeling of doing something with nothing is indescribable great video really enjoyed it
This is an excellent method. I made one similar to this one and had tremendous success. This type of weight is much more effective than the typical round flywheel and is much easier to make.
Watched your vid a couple times, and finally got an ember and blew it into flame tonight. Yet to have the same success with bow drill, but pretty much prefer this. More work to set up, but more chance of success. Thanks for the vid!
Tom, I don't know why this hasn't popped up before but you reinvented the wheel on this concept. My Scouts will love this! BTW, great idea with the detachable burner plug. Thanks
It's highly unlikely that n today's world that we wouldn't have access to some kind of way to drill holes& can see how easy it is to make the counterweight n Ur design. If there's one thing I've found out & that's knowledge is gold...keep up the great videos.
Hi Tom, a friend put me onto you. This is brilliant, mate, I like the counter idea, much simpler than trying to bore through a stone. Thanks for sharing, buddy, take care.
i like your design, I have seen the stone and wood disk designs and in the rough they are hard to reproduce. but this is easily reproduced in the wild with a knife and some cordage. nice work.
Less strength but also as we see in some survival shows, when you're tired and hungry, you may not have the energy to sustain a bow drill or hand drill for 50-90 seconds or more or apply pressure to create a strong friction contact. This kind of design helps alleviate the need for that.
Thanks for sharing your knowledge. Your Pump Drill design works faster and more smoothly than any other that I have seen, plus It looks like it could be made in a primitive situation with no more than a good solid Knife.
All of this can be done without a knife if you really needed to - the replaceable tip is an excellent idea. Saving energy in a long term survival situ cant be underestimated. I'll give it a go.
You see, you absolutely did it ,much better result compared to the light weight version, really like the replaceable douwl at the bottom ,I guess if you wanted to ,you could make the top douwl longer and replaceable too, well to possibly ad downward weight incrementally, outstanding effort , YOU are awesome😏🏅
Awesome...I made one once while working for the Minnesota Historical Society... Used a single stone drilled piece of oak as my weight...your weight is genius!
I love this. I love testing myself making fires in as many crazy ways as possible. If I ever get a chance, I'm so making one of these. Nothing better than carving your tools from the surrounding woods. Here's a fun one, just by the way, try finding some good string alternative, and then carving your own crochet needle. It's much easier than it sounds.
The stones spinning at the speed of light next to his crown jewels... That cord better be strong :D But besides that, this id a GREAT video. Awesome video and audio qualit, clear voice and an overall positive attitude here.
The stones on the drill aren't worth the danger to the stones on his, well, yeah. The wood arm itself is heavy enough to keep the affair spinning as you pump it.
Maybe make a video how to make something like this in a survival situation where you have only a multi-tool knife. How to use the yucca plant to make the twine need to make this type of pump drill since he didn't describe how to make it. This type of pump drill has been made before anyway
Hand drill, then bow drill for more efficienty, then pump bow drill for the most efficent design. Your design is well thought, the removable plug in the end is clever and the 2 rock to increase rotational inertia too, easy to assemble in the wild. Mine would be in some man-made material (aluminium probably) for durability, but your concept is perfect.
That’s a awesome modification instead of the flywheel and I believe the can create more counter forces it’s not unlike how a spaceship can use the earth’s gravitational force to slingshot itself into space there is more tech in your design than you think,ancient and modern.👍🏼
OK as for the pump handle, have you ever thought that could be two sticks also or one split stick with spreader pieces near the middle? ...the ends, fastened with grass, cordage or root twine. That could be cobbled faster than drilling a hole through the pump handle. Also the counter-weight/flywheel piece could have the spindle pass between the split, again with spreader pieces and shims to make up the gaps and again, saving the time it takes to drill a hole. How did you hollow out the spindle end?
It seems you could save a lot of time in building it by splitting the handle, carving a channel for the spindle in each half and binding it back together, rather than drilling a hole through the whole handle. An excellent video.
I've seen something like this with the counterweight on the end before. I've not seen one so big though. Amazingly you can use this to drill holes too.
First: brilliant! Second: design mod idea-hmm, it might be dangerous to get one's shin too close to the spinning stones, could you simply tie some natural padding near the (rock holding) split stick ends, in case of a foot slipping & shin moving into their path? Would likely prevent a cut or nasty bruise. Mostly unnecessary, but if using often it might be worth having for that one time someone slips...I guess you could also shorten the length of the counter weights but double them up (two pairs of stones, in same or different supports)...
Excellent video, Tom. Thanks for sharing man. Much appreciated. That softwood plug is seriously innovative. Gonna' attempt to make one of these next time I get out for a 2 or 3 day camp. All the best to ya'!!
also @Craig Fordham if you harvest bone you can make a small drill bit from a dead animal (food possibly?) to create any holes you need. You can also use sinew, yucca, or many other materials to make your rope which are readily available in the wild. Wood can be processed using simple rock tools if you have nothing else. So in short please use some discretion before you post negativity, you should probably do some research.
Yeah, in a survival situation, you need someone who thinks of creative solutions and shares their ideas. Then together you pick the best ideas and do your best. The negative Nancies will just slow everyone down and make everyone give up trying. It's so easy to just say that every idea is lame. It's a lot harder to think of a way forward. The dialogue shouldn't be "you couldn't do that!" Instead, we should all be saying "You CAN definitely do that, as long as you also do this, that, and the other thing first."
Ironic you should tell him to 'do some research', lol! Can't you see this tool's similarity to a primitive drill? It's nearly identical in its goal. So if this were the best design for a fire starter, it would also be nearly the best design for a drill. You would need a drill to make your drill! Is it possible to drill 4 large, accurate holes while "primitive" (as per this video's title)? Maybe. Practical for the time & effort to build a drill & bracing that can work for the END of a skinny stick? Absolutely not worth effort when compared to other methods. Sinew or Yucca rope that would be flexible enough but also strong enough to perform as shown? No, again time factor is way too high to be reasonable compared to other methods. The author used a power drill to make this tool but put 'primitive best design' in the title. It's not being a negative Nancy to point out this title is pure hogwash.
I think that is very slick! I believe in being prepared. I can envision making one out of metal and keeping stored in a nice PVC canister and locked away in a safe place in the event that one is needed for a true survival situation. I use a Bic lighter to start fires when I need one. But I dig the whole skill of being able to do it if necessary. Not only being able to but being proficient at it. Very well done demonstration. I bet I could find an old pool cue laying around that would suffice nicely for the spindle.
I was very impressed with the ingenuity of the removable plug so you don't have to replace the entire spindle. One question about that, though. How do you keep the plug from spinning in the spindle as well as the fire board, which would wear out the spindle and waste friction in the wrong place?
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I ended up being an EMT for a survival school and after three days of watching students try to make fire from the fire bow. It was more powerful than me... I couldn't shut up any more. so I got my supplies and during lunch break I showed the class including the instructors . the counter weight pump drill. I told them different areas in the world might have dryer wood where a bow drill or even a friction fire might work. but in a wet area the pump drill will get so hot it will start a fire. you can scale it up or down and they still work. available materials will determine the size, and the pump drill is much easier on you're cordage/ laces/ rope/ roots . the bow drill causes a lot of heat and stress in the rope
This awnsers all my questions thank you
Thanks for the video. You could tell at the beginning that your design tweak was an improvement on the dynamics. I love how you made a replaceable plug to avoid having to rebuild the whole assembly. Nicely done!
Easiest friction fire method I have ever seen anyone use on RUclips. I gotta try this myself. Thanks for posting.
This counterweight is a great nuance. It is extremely hard to primitively create a hole in a round rock and very time consuming to bake a clay counterweight. Thanks for the video.
Thank you very much brother for the video! I am from Colombia South America here for the indigenous communities it is very important to produce the sacred fire in this way in fact it is called "origin fire" or "original fire" and this is always used in this way for important rituals or ceremonies with power plants , word circles, etc... Fire is considered something sacred, it is also a grandfather, the oldest in the Universe! Thank you
Aweeome man! What part of Colombia? My wife is from Cali and we are planning on visiting soon would be great to get together with other bushcrafters while there
@@Outdoorpro72 super... actually I live in Cali jejej would be really nice to get in touch...
Best I have seen so far!
With a flint tip I'd bet that drill could bore holes.
Excellent design.
Edward Sanford - I was thinking the same thing. With removable tips that thing could be used for all kinds of stuff.
I love that plug idea at the tip of the spindle. Tom is a pretty clever survivalist
I'm An old Native Canadian and was cool to see the addition to the pump drill ..Respect!
So much more practical than trying to find sandstone to use as the counterweight. Thanks for the valuable information.
A work of genius! A beautiful thing to see. Thanks for sharing this!
whomever discovered this he must be a genius
The people whom discovered this died thousands of years ago.
PS: It's good to know someone knows the difference between who and whom.
Its whoever in this case.
I could not agree more. whoever came up with this, thousands of years ago, was a genius. This person is not. He simply took an already existing idea and tweaked it a bit with a different counterweight arm design. In fact, his design is flawed with how much mass there is. It takes so much force to get into motion that it's not worth the trouble of adding stones. The wood arm itself would provide enough mass to keep it in motion.
-Neanderthal 1200 BC
much like the sword, the bow & arrow, spear, etc. this device was likely invented independently innumerable times.
You can remove the spindle's tapering requirement by providing a cross-pin (either below or through the "counterweight" assembly) and lashing the counterweight assembly to the spindle at that point. It is less robust if the assembly is struck while rotating, but it can make it easier/faster to construct when starting quickly the fire is important.
If you have an opportunity to update the video, you might also talk a little bit about methods to balance the "counterweight" (e.g. sliding rocks in/out along the assembly), or a method of determining the center-of-mass point in order to drill the hole in the right place for an arbitrary placement and varying size/mass of rocks.
(btw, thanks for proper centripetal v. centrifugal)
None of will ever probably use our survival skills but it’s so good to have mostly for are mental health the feeling of doing something with nothing is indescribable great video really enjoyed it
much better and accessible in a raw situation, as you said, than the wheel design. Genius solution... Thank you.
Most EXCELLENT. Kudos for the apparatus as well as for the very practical demo. Many thanks.
This is an excellent method. I made one similar to this one and had tremendous success. This type of weight is much more effective than the typical round flywheel and is much easier to make.
That's a great improvement over the "standard model" as it were. Thanks for the info.
you definitely solved my flywheel problem. thank you sir and good job.
awesome design for the pump drill, Thanks for sharing !
Watched your vid a couple times, and finally got an ember and blew it into flame tonight. Yet to have the same success with bow drill, but pretty much prefer this. More work to set up, but more chance of success. Thanks for the vid!
Truly ingenious! Thank you for sharing this design!
best drill I have seen and very simple to make great job man
Nice wicked design
Tom, I don't know why this hasn't popped up before but you reinvented the wheel on this concept. My Scouts will love this! BTW, great idea with the detachable burner plug. Thanks
I am really impressed by your new design.
Excellent design! Bravo Zulu!!
It's highly unlikely that n today's world that we wouldn't have access to some kind of way to drill holes& can see how easy it is to make the counterweight n Ur design. If there's one thing I've found out & that's knowledge is gold...keep up the great videos.
Well Done!!! I like the way you developed the rock counterweight.... Makes perfect sense!!!!
Im taking my hat off. Thanks for the inspiration! Long years to live
Nice Tom , simple and to the point .
really cool idea with the bottom piece of wood and the stones
so simple and so cool, love it, well done! Thank you!
Holy smoke! what a brilliant idea!
I love the fact that you're just in jeans and a t-shirt. Quite different from other survival experts.
Great demonstration, awesome stuff!
Awesome video....those guys who participate of Discovery Channel Naked And Afraid should see this so their time in the jungle would not be that bad
It's already on there in a Mexico episode
+Michael DeMarois the cordage is availabal.....ive made it using vines
This dude Making the video was on that show but don't think he made the pump drill there.
Excellent Tom. Thanks for sharing this great design.
Clever, and absolutely spectacular!
Great design! Thanks for the video!
This looks excellent, Tom. Very good modification, too! I learn a lot from your videos. Thanks!
Bikin videonya kurang panjang bosskuuuuh... Asik liatnya.
Hi Tom, a friend put me onto you. This is brilliant, mate, I like the counter idea, much simpler than trying to bore through a stone. Thanks for sharing, buddy, take care.
I like seeing you use privative skills but adding sound thought out improvements. This is one I'll definitely be trying 👍✌🥃
Magnifique..., the two symmetric counterweight idea is the best.... ;)
i like your design, I have seen the stone and wood disk designs and in the rough they are hard to reproduce. but this is easily reproduced in the wild with a knife and some cordage. nice work.
Bo Wins thanks for sharing.
@Bo: Ever heard of taking two stout sticks, carving a half round notch in the centre of each one and lashing them to the spindle? Try it. It works.
This is a really neat design, I will look at making one of these for my up coming courses this summer.
Cody Lundin patented the barefoot survival mode
This would be great for those with less strength. I would encourage this design for them.
Less strength but also as we see in some survival shows, when you're tired and hungry, you may not have the energy to sustain a bow drill or hand drill for 50-90 seconds or more or apply pressure to create a strong friction contact. This kind of design helps alleviate the need for that.
That flywheel is great dude, I've never seen that before
Thanks for sharing your knowledge. Your Pump Drill design works faster and more smoothly than any other that I have seen, plus It looks like it could be made in a primitive situation with no more than a good solid Knife.
All of this can be done without a knife if you really needed to - the replaceable tip is an excellent idea. Saving energy in a long term survival situ cant be underestimated. I'll give it a go.
You see, you absolutely did it ,much better result compared to the light weight version, really like the replaceable douwl at the bottom ,I guess if you wanted to ,you could make the top douwl longer and replaceable too, well to possibly ad downward weight incrementally, outstanding effort , YOU are awesome😏🏅
Awesome...I made one once while working for the Minnesota Historical Society... Used a single stone drilled piece of oak as my weight...your weight is genius!
Thanks man! Ive never thought much of pump drills until this design, it works really well with tons of power. Thanks for watching.
Awesome video! Very informative and explanatory and the camera quality is 10/10. Best video out there!
Great innovation. Thor from B.C. would be impressed. Replaceable bit. Smart.
You are one COOL Dude! Wish I could remember half of what you are teaching!
Best stuff i've seen ever
I love this. I love testing myself making fires in as many crazy ways as possible. If I ever get a chance, I'm so making one of these. Nothing better than carving your tools from the surrounding woods. Here's a fun one, just by the way, try finding some good string alternative, and then carving your own crochet needle. It's much easier than it sounds.
Thanks Tom. This design was great n it sets me thinking. Very good work there n thanks again for sharing.
I love you your the best survivalest
that's seriously cool! thanks!
The stones spinning at the speed of light next to his crown jewels...
That cord better be strong :D
But besides that, this id a GREAT video. Awesome video and audio qualit, clear voice and an overall positive attitude here.
The stones on the drill aren't worth the danger to the stones on his, well, yeah. The wood arm itself is heavy enough to keep the affair spinning as you pump it.
Belle vidéo . Bravo
Dom.
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Totally enjoyed watching... interesting design!!!
Man that´s pretty awesome, i need to make a video about this.
But ... he already did ....
Why obviously you just learned this method. Maybe you should make videos on something you know how to do.
Maybe make a video how to make something like this in a survival situation where you have only a multi-tool knife. How to use the yucca plant to make the twine need to make this type of pump drill since he didn't describe how to make it. This type of pump drill has been made before anyway
Great idea with the hollowing shaft to add and remove tips.
That's neat & easiest way to make fire ;))
Absolutely brilliant.
You must have put a lot of thought in this. great idea!
Hand drill, then bow drill for more efficienty, then pump bow drill for the most efficent design. Your design is well thought, the removable plug in the end is clever and the 2 rock to increase rotational inertia too, easy to assemble in the wild. Mine would be in some man-made material (aluminium probably) for durability, but your concept is perfect.
thanks for share my friend, very very good hi from México.
That’s a awesome modification instead of the flywheel and I believe the can create more counter forces it’s not unlike how a spaceship can use the earth’s gravitational force to slingshot itself into space there is more tech in your design than you think,ancient and modern.👍🏼
OK as for the pump handle, have you ever thought that could be two sticks also or one split stick with spreader pieces near the middle? ...the ends, fastened with grass, cordage or root twine. That could be cobbled faster than drilling a hole through the pump handle. Also the counter-weight/flywheel piece could have the spindle pass between the split, again with spreader pieces and shims to make up the gaps and again, saving the time it takes to drill a hole. How did you hollow out the spindle end?
literally a knife is all you need to drill basic holes like that. easy peasy, just takes a little time.
Totaly best design
It seems you could save a lot of time in building it by splitting the handle, carving a channel for the spindle in each half and binding it back together, rather than drilling a hole through the whole handle. An excellent video.
Love the new design on the pump drill:-)🌴🌊🌴
Wwooww.. extremely impressive
This is wonderful. It's given me an idea! Subscribed!
Really nice idea
Yip thats a keeper.
Thank you
Awesome man, I like the 2 rocks between wood idea, smart man!
I've seen something like this with the counterweight on the end before. I've not seen one so big though. Amazingly you can use this to drill holes too.
First: brilliant! Second: design mod idea-hmm, it might be dangerous to get one's shin too close to the spinning stones, could you simply tie some natural padding near the (rock holding) split stick ends, in case of a foot slipping & shin moving into their path? Would likely prevent a cut or nasty bruise. Mostly unnecessary, but if using often it might be worth having for that one time someone slips...I guess you could also shorten the length of the counter weights but double them up (two pairs of stones, in same or different supports)...
Great design.
Awesome. I love your videos. They are always full of valuable knowledge. BTW, would love to see you on Alone!
very good video i will be makeing one
Excellent video, Tom. Thanks for sharing man. Much appreciated. That softwood plug is seriously innovative. Gonna' attempt to make one of these next time I get out for a 2 or 3 day camp. All the best to ya'!!
Sir love all your videos want to take a class
Genius man. Keep the vids going bro, love them.
Great video, you are doing some great work. Keep it up.
I would lose an eye with that! it works a treat though.
That was an awesome video
also @Craig Fordham if you harvest bone you can make a small drill bit from a dead animal (food possibly?) to create any holes you need. You can also use sinew, yucca, or many other materials to make your rope which are readily available in the wild. Wood can be processed using simple rock tools if you have nothing else. So in short please use some discretion before you post negativity, you should probably do some research.
lol tell em!!
love how people think there are skills that were unavailable before electricity
Yeah, in a survival situation, you need someone who thinks of creative solutions and shares their ideas. Then together you pick the best ideas and do your best. The negative Nancies will just slow everyone down and make everyone give up trying. It's so easy to just say that every idea is lame. It's a lot harder to think of a way forward. The dialogue shouldn't be "you couldn't do that!" Instead, we should all be saying "You CAN definitely do that, as long as you also do this, that, and the other thing first."
Ironic you should tell him to 'do some research', lol! Can't you see this tool's similarity to a primitive drill? It's nearly identical in its goal. So if this were the best design for a fire starter, it would also be nearly the best design for a drill. You would need a drill to make your drill! Is it possible to drill 4 large, accurate holes while "primitive" (as per this video's title)? Maybe. Practical for the time & effort to build a drill & bracing that can work for the END of a skinny stick? Absolutely not worth effort when compared to other methods. Sinew or Yucca rope that would be flexible enough but also strong enough to perform as shown? No, again time factor is way too high to be reasonable compared to other methods.
The author used a power drill to make this tool but put 'primitive best design' in the title. It's not being a negative Nancy to point out this title is pure hogwash.
That is genius! Thanks Tom and a Happy New Year
I think that is very slick! I believe in being prepared. I can envision making one out of metal and keeping stored in a nice PVC canister and locked away in a safe place in the event that one is needed for a true survival situation. I use a Bic lighter to start fires when I need one. But I dig the whole skill of being able to do it if necessary. Not only being able to but being proficient at it. Very well done demonstration. I bet I could find an old pool cue laying around that would suffice nicely for the spindle.
Great job!
I was very impressed with the ingenuity of the removable plug so you don't have to replace the entire spindle. One question about that, though. How do you keep the plug from spinning in the spindle as well as the fire board, which would wear out the spindle and waste friction in the wrong place?
Instead of making a round mortise and tenon joint, make them oval so the one won't turn in the other.
sorry i dont check these often, I basically pegged it in place by sticking small 'toothpick sized sticks in it
Good Job...Thanks
perfect design
This is amazing.
Great video