Lap Steel Improvising 1# - Gretsch G5700, Multibenders from Duesenberg
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
- Here's a little improvising on a backing track made by Laurent Rougemont. Credits to him for this great track! Here's a link to the track: • SAD COUNTRY BACKING TR...
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Great sound, great tone... Thinking about pulling the trigger on the Gretsch and adding the Duesenberg Bender. Your demo on the G5700 is the best I've heard... sounds very pedal steel-like.
What Rig/effects are you putting it through?
Tuning?
Thanks Ronni! I try my best to get as close to a PSG as simple as I can to where the whole rig is easy to move around. The sound for this video was recorded as following: I recorded the direct signal of the pickup in one channel and I had the sound come out of one of my monitor speakers and mic'ed that up and recorded it into my daw. So there's two channels and I blended those in my DAW, there's a little bit of reverb and compression from FabFilter plug-ins. That's it.
And the tuning used is an open E tuning, here. I think that's a big part why it sounds so much like a PSG.
That sounds wonderful.
Congratulations on the final result obtained, and thank you very much for sharing it.
hi from nashville! Man thats some really great playing and i enjoyed your use of the benders. It was very tasteful and authentic sounding. Thumb up.
Great sound!!
Loved this
Excellent playing and tone. Thank you for sharing.
Very Nice!!
Great sound i love the steel guitar
Do you have a link to the benders you use? Thanks from Idaho 🤠
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This might be of interest with a bit of History. In 1954 (LONG before there were benders any where); a "Steel Guitar" player; for a popular Country Music singer; by the name of Web Pierce; had the builder of his SG; to add two pedals; to do exactly what your benders are doing nowadays. The SG player was Bud Isaac.
Here is the original recording in 1954...
ruclips.net/video/dCJVL5O1mAM/видео.html
No SG player had ever heard this sound. They called it "The moving Tone". And 30,000 SG players across the world; went crazy; trying to figure how Bud got that incredible "unheard "sound. I was one of the SG players. And I JUST had to have it. I couldn't put it down with that beautiful "Moving Tone".
From this day; the moving tone is on over 80% recordings in "Country Music"; for over 68 yrs. Although it has been greatly improved now. With more and more pedals and knee levers. The sounds are so beautiful; that we say. "It is THE most beautiful musical instrument EVER built".
Here is one of the latest of those incredible tones; on the Pedal Steel Guitar....
ruclips.net/video/TI56hQOsmos/видео.html
Gary Carter is now one of THE greatest SG players EVER.
For what it's worth,
Thanks for the comment, that's a great story! I really enjoyed checking out Gary Carters video there, amazing player, very inspiring to me. And I'll hope to acquire a PSG someday to give that a shot. I've never tried playing one actually.
You're close my friend.
Great job Owen!
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Nice!
Do you happen to have technical drawings of your roller nut that could be shared? I want to do this exact same mod. If you could share the drawings, it would allow me to have my own roller nut made at a local machine shop.
Super duper.
Sounds great! Did you have to have the roller nut made special, or is that something you can find "off the shelf?"
That looks like a hipshot roller nut.
Right Niceville!!!!!!
GREAT JOB! REALLY ENJOYED IT!
I want a setup like this. If I had one I’d probably never put it down.
Lovely Playing, Maybe some time and electric session at The Sibin !
Absolutely!
Wow sounds amazing. What gauge strings do you use? I bought c6 strings for me gretsch but they dont tune to c6 for some reason.
IS that open E tuning?
Hey Owen, Is this tuned EBEG#BE (low to high)? Benders move G# to A and B to C#? Thanks!
Good talent ,can you tell me what scale you play this piece?
Thank
Existe pra vendaésta quitarra havaiãna?
Who makes that bridge? Also great playing.
How can I get this exact lap instrument
I have a problem? with my lap multibender.
After pressing the benders several times, while playing a song, they don't stay together, but rather move away from each other. I suppose it will be due to the pressure of the springs (I hope I have installed them correctly).
Has it happened to you too?
I do not wish to disturb you. Answer me if you want.
Thank you.
All the best.
Make sure the alignment is correct, the benders can move a bit to the left and right on the rod.
@@0wen95 I thank you again for your advice. As I said, I've had the lap for a very short time, and I'm still experimenting and discovering things about how it works. I 'm very happy. I've already managed to play a few songs, and I love the PSG sound. Thanks!
Price ?
Hello again, Owen. I loved your video, and this Christmas I gave myself a Gretsch G5700 and a Duesenberg Multibender to install it and get an effect very similar to PSG. .
The problem is that I think I haven't gotten the tuning right.
If the open E tuning is E-B-E-G#-B-E,
Do I have to tune my Lap to E-B-E-F#-A#-E, and with the levers, the 3rd string will go up a tone and be G#, and the 2nd string will go up a half step and be B? Is it done like this?
Thanks in advance for your response.
The second string B bends up to C#. And the third string G# bends up to A.
@@0wen95 Thank you very much for your quick response.
Now I'll try to play this song, but I know I'll never do it as well as you.
I never tire of listening to it over and over again. It sounds very, very good.
Thanks!
Génial ! Quel open tuning tu joues?? Je viens de monter un Certano sur ma Gretsch aussi
Merci 😊
@@jimzepol Salut Jim.
Afin d'essayer de jouer l'air qu'Owen fait sonner si bien (même si je ne le ferai jamais sonner aussi bien), je lui ai demandé et il a répondu. C'est pourquoi j'ai accordé mon lap steel dans la tonalité de Mi ouvert, que les Anglais et les Américains appellent Open E. Et les notes de chaque corde sans appui sont :
1-MI 2-SI 3-G# 4-MI 5-SI 6-MI.
Vous devez graduer les leviers de votre Certano, pour que la troisième corde lorsque vous appuyez sur le levier monte d'un demi-ton, et passe du Sol# au La. Et la deuxième corde, lorsque vous appuyez sur le levier, doit monter d'un ton, c'est-à-dire de SI à DO#.
J'espère que tu vas très bien.
Salutations.
Pardonnez-moi, j'ai fait une erreur. Les notes de chaque corde non pincée sont :
6-MI 5-SI 4-MI 3-G# 2-SI 1-MI.
Nice! Which tuning?
Open E tuning, fun little tuning
What tuning are you using please?
Open E tuning :) Cheers!
Hi Owen! Great song and great sound as always! My compliments! Your work and your sound are very inspiring to me! I was wondering if you can tell me where you bought your roller nut or possibly put me in contact with whoever built it for you.
I really want to mount one on my Gretsch 5700 Lap Steel with the Duesemberg Bridge, which is the same as yours, and unfortunately neither the Hipshot nut nor the MelbertGuitars nut are adaptable to the neck of the Gretsch 5700 Lap Steel and with a 9mm string spacing like you suggested me on your other RUclips video.
I thank you for your availability and for your kindness and I hope you can help me!
I keep following you on RUclips and Instagram and I really love your Long Way Home project!
Congratulations again for your music!
Francesco
Thank you so much Francesco!! I got the roller not from a guitar luthier in Ireland. He was a lap steel builder mainly and a musician himself as well. Unfortunately he retired and is not building stuff anymore I believe. The roller nut was handmade out of little narrow and long aluminum block with a little rod that held 6 guitar ball-ends in place at 9mm spacing, just like a Dobro nut. I used two part epoxy to mount it onto the lap steel. I think david certano from certano benders should be able to fabricate a roller nut for lap steels easily. He is a skilled mechanical engineer, have you had contact with him?
@@0wen95 Hi Owen! Thank you so much for your reply both on RUclips and here on Fb! After your advice I contacted Certano. Unfortunately he no longer builds custom pieces and nuts, but only one size that is too wide and big for the Lap Steel Gretsch neck. So unfortunately I'm back to square one. So I was thinking of having my luthier build an aluminum nut but without the rollers, just to widen the original Gretsch string spacing which is too tight for me. So I wanted to ask you two things:
With the old non roller nut did you encounter string breaks and problems with detuning in the strings pulled by the benders with the standard tuning keys?
My luthier says that with 9mm string spacing there could be problems as the strings would touch on the tuning pegs causing tuning problems.
Do you have this problem? Do the strings before the nut touch the tuning keys?
Could you please send me a close up photo of your roller nut from above and the headstock of your Gretsch lap steel?
Thank you for your help and for the inspiration you always give me!
I hope someday I can play my Gretsch Lap Steel like you, with your sound, your touch and your sensitivity.
Thank you again from the heart!
What benders are those?
Read the title.
I was wondering if there is a particular model of the multibender that fits with the Gretsch 5700
as you're showing?
Those are the Duesenberg Multibenders
@Owen95 - How easy was the multibender install, and what roller nut did you purchase?
That was beautiful!!! Thank you for sharing this man!
This performance is inspiring, man. You made me buy a multibender and install it on my HB Slider II. I can't wait to recieve it. I'm also swapping the single coil pickup with a humbucker. Congratulations on your style and your playing.
I wanted to do just the same: install a multibender on a HB Slider II. My only concern is the following: I have the impression that the multibender is too long and will protrude from the HB slider II table. Did you have this problem, or did the multibender had enough space to fit properly on the guitar body?
@@adrienrouleau5188 I finally bought an SX LG2 and installed the multibender on it. It’s a much more proper lapsteel and it’s loaded with a p90. It also comes with legs and a fantastic bag, very well padded, to carry both the lapsteel and the legs and it fits nicely in it with the multibender. I recommend you this one. I got the natural ash one.
@Fernandoorejudo Thank you for the insightful information, Fernando. Looks like your recommended model is out of stock (new and used), so my quest for a pedal steel on the cheap will continue for a bit! Cheers
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Fantastic!
Great playing!
Wow that's a great sound.
Excellent, Fantasic tone!
So beautiful.
Thanks!!
tmj, meu Amigo.
stellar stuff man
Awesome!
A love a desk steel
Very pretty playing. Great sound.
Outstanding!!
Bravo!!! fantastic!!! ARIGATOU(o^^o)
What guage strings you using for open E?
What tuning is this in?
did you have to spend time setting up how both levers travel? I just got one and I find it really hard to do both bender at same time because both bender travel very different but i havent set anything
Yes it took me a hour or a bit more the first time to get the benders(you call them levers) correctly in tune and placed on the height where I wanted it. There are some RUclips videos out there explain how to tune the levers.
Sick.
If you are playing guitar in key of G, E or A, what tuning would you use?
Open D tuning usually, DADF#AD. You just use the bar in different positions.
Sounds great How hard was it to fit Duesenberg multiBender ,certainly does the PSG sound ,are the benders on G/B
Cheers! It wasn't all that complicated to fit the multibender bridge. It was a matter of lining it up correctly and pre-drilling some holes and mounting the bridge with 8 screws. If I were to tune it into open G tuning the benders would indeed be on the G and B string, 3rdnd and 2nd string. However, I use open E tuning so here the bend-able strings is an G# (3rd) and that famous same B on the 2nd string.
@@0wen95Why would the 3rd string not be tuned to G# for Open E?
@@BP-or2iu yes! You’re correct, typo on my end. I made an edit to state G# instead of A#
@@0wen95 No problem! Did you have to buy anything else other than the benders? Like a new bridge and/or nut?
What tuning?
Appears to be open E
Could you tell us exactly what your tuning is (each string)? Thanks.
I’ve watched this over and over again. Is there a release of this music anywhere? It’s fabulous.
Thanks Simon, have not released it, should I you think?
@@0wen95 Wish you would Owen, its one of the best country sounding tunes I've ever heard on lap steel. Well done.
Just got my own my multi bender and loving it. thanks for the inspiration 😊… what did you put on them for anti-slip? (Black and white pads)
Black is just electro tape with some furniture floor protection pads, and the white is just a floor protection pad without tape. Nothing fancy
@@0wen95 thanks! I just noticed the black was tape 😀
This is great
Very cool!
Thank you sir!