'Cause there's almost no one in the JP side that will. Instead, they were the ones that is pushing the thing with Miko which is kinda true if you ask me. Maybe it's just the way she speaks but some EN and ID girls speak clearer Japanese than her. Not that I would like it to change. Miko is fine and super funny the way she is.
It's a bit as if a tourist suddenly dropped an "indubitably" or "inexorable" in everyday conversation. Those words are used here and there, but still advanced enough that you'd notice even if a native speaker used them.
@@BeatPeet With a bit of added humor since she used it correctly while rejecting the notion that her Japanese is all that good. It has the vibes of someone responding to "your English is pretty good" with "perish the thought, my oratory skills are inadequate".
Pretty sure my English is better than the average native English speaker's. Especially compared to Americans. American zoomers are even worse at speaking proper (or even basic) English, thanks to growing up on rap and ghetto culture that has been the dominating American culture for the past 10-15 years. So, an ESL guy like me who learned English systematically and formally, and without much corruption from colloquial influence, knows the language better than native speakers. It's probably the same for Anya and her Japanese.
She's a goddess ... His omniscient grant her the ability to understand all her JP kouhai's language, including Miko's Elitenesse ... I wonder if she also understand Chloe's writting ...
Wouldn't that make both Hololive and even Miko herself the enemy then? Welp, figured out what Sora is building a guild for. Not at all a means of raising her own private army to wage war on the world for making fun of Miko. Nope. Not at all. I didn't say anything.
Well, people forget that when you learn an outside language, you tend to study the phonetics and formal usages of the liguistics more properly than a native speaker. So Anya may have that as a learned tertiary language or second, while Miko as a native speaker drops formality in her language. My native language is English so I use that informality consistently, and it's hard to break habit. It's just natural for when you know your own language well enough, to not speak it fluently, that you have tendencies to disregard the proper forms unless it's for work/whatever setting appropriate.
This. But considering Japanese themselves are impressed it's safe to say Anya get down their phonetics right to the point sounded native. Even Coco have noticeable accents regarding this.
@@davidtogi5878 I'm guessing this is a joke? But, I'll treat it as if it is otherwise. The point I made is because you get so accustomed to the rules of your own language, that you tend to 'break' them to be more relaxed outside of that setting. I even made it a point as part of the last sentence above already. I personally have a minor in writing and know the rules fairly well, but outside of an established environment where it matters like school or work for example, ordinarily, some people, like myself, just get too relaxed at times outside of that. While grammatically wrong in parts in that previous sentence, I made it easy to digest by the usage of commas. Another example is vocally, where you'd use words that aren't in the English proper lexicon but are used frequently like "ain't", "gonna", and etc. When you learn outside languages, like while I'm currently studying Arabic, I'd understand the language on a deeper level and focus on those rules more keenly since those are very important to the culture and apprehension of that language specifically. I can't verify this is as a full fact for everyone on this Earth learning outside languages, but I'm trying to set a baseline comparison to benefit Miko compared to Anya in this specific instance.
I barely even know my own native language, I can speak it for daily use since I use it with instinct if I think I will have a hard time, and I might as well be illiterate at it, I at most as good as a 2nd or 3rd grader, hell I don't even know how to say Purple in my own native language
sora can understand elite language and us mere mortals cant understand it thats why we laught at miko's japanese and us mortals have been warned by the goddess her self to never be mean to elite babies
Remember those good old day when another Vtuber company would end their Vtuber contract with their talent because of the lack of viewership? Anya was one of those few talent. Her early stream doesn't goes to 1k. Mostly 400 to 600 per stream. Luckily, she's with Hololive. I do believe Yagoo/Cover in general see the potential she got. Cause as of lately Anya get a lot of attention compared to before.
@@Bah_duku Yes, OP is talking about another company. Plus it's quite exaggerated anyway: Anya viewership does grow a lot in current RUST boom, but Anya average viewership has never been that low anyway. Yes, sometimes she has views at that number, but that is when she plays a super long story heavy games -- those kind of games are never good for viewership for any vtuber. Thankfully Anya is never really bothered with numbers anyway so it's not like we need to worry about it.
@@zeroyuki92 You are wrong and are missing the point. Anya is Gura's sister, as in they have the same creator. She's also oppai loli chara and is fluent in Japanese. Expectation for her before debut was very high but turnout ended up much lower than expected. Still, Anya has been doing better as of late and that was the point.
although anya is more fluent injapanese compared to other id member, somehow i rarely see her as translator/interprator, that role usually played by iofi or ollie
1. She is often with Holoro or by herself. On those cases they don't need translator/interpreter because all Holoro doesn't need it (and whenever she's alone in HoloJP/other JP vtuber collab obviously she could just blend in) 2. Whenever she's with member that nihongo jouzun't she did translate for them, like in recent holosummer collab where she translates back and forth for Kaela.
She translate HoloIDcup and Holosummer, she helping Ollie write her script in Japanese for her debut, what do you mean "rarely", she even use Japanese when collabing with id member so the JPniki still understand what they are saying
Forget about Mikocchi, I'd put Anya above like 70% of HoloJP. I'm just a dirty weeb-lord but Anya's JP in both words & pronunciation is assrapingly great, far better than Haachama or Miko. Only true tongue queens like A-chan & Takane Lui cleanly overtake her IMO.
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Sora defending Miko 😂💖💯
Sora defending Miko while the viewers be mercilessly making fun of Miko's Japanese
Kore koso 0gen no kizuna
'Cause there's almost no one in the JP side that will. Instead, they were the ones that is pushing the thing with Miko which is kinda true if you ask me. Maybe it's just the way she speaks but some EN and ID girls speak clearer Japanese than her. Not that I would like it to change. Miko is fine and super funny the way she is.
Still threw miko under the bus as more pon than roboco
@@XYousoro wait miko speak japanese?
Well, Sora chan is just protecting her fellow HoloBaby member that's all..
Sora: "Don't do that"
Meme: _Instantly dies_
Oh thats why sora laugh when anya said that word. Good too see the context here.
It's a bit as if a tourist suddenly dropped an "indubitably" or "inexorable" in everyday conversation. Those words are used here and there, but still advanced enough that you'd notice even if a native speaker used them.
@@BeatPeet ive never heard of inexorable before so i can understand what you mean
@@BeatPeet With a bit of added humor since she used it correctly while rejecting the notion that her Japanese is all that good. It has the vibes of someone responding to "your English is pretty good" with "perish the thought, my oratory skills are inadequate".
@@Colopty Ah, so it was like the first interaction Naruto with the sage. Got it.
Sora to the viewers, probably: *"So you're the enemy then."*
Don't bully Miko too much, got it.
Keyword : Too much
When Sora say dame dayo.. ill stop doing it right away
Its like a big sister softly, but sternly saying something
Yeah its cute but also sounds strong. if you get what i mean
I love how Yagoo is like *"Yep, that's my girl"* at 0:22 after Anya says "Osoreirimasu". SasuYagoo.
Yes😂
Yagoo proud of his daughter ... 🙏
ANak YAgoo indeed
Sora's like "I just showed up to work one day and everyone was teasing Miko about something... but why"
She immune to Twitter
Sora-chan, just admit... Don't worry, nobody will blame for it's was the true. 😂😂
Sora, this is over a year old. How can you be this far out of the loop?
Maybe because she's fluent in elite language lol
The way she casually said that rare japanese word without a second thought shows how fluent she is.
One might even say advanced.
@@DinnerForkTongue Or even super jouzu.
Miko couldn't understand herself when she watched her own VOD though..
I'm not gonna lie, I wouldn't be surprised if Anya's JP was better than your average nihonjin
Pretty sure my English is better than the average native English speaker's. Especially compared to Americans. American zoomers are even worse at speaking proper (or even basic) English, thanks to growing up on rap and ghetto culture that has been the dominating American culture for the past 10-15 years. So, an ESL guy like me who learned English systematically and formally, and without much corruption from colloquial influence, knows the language better than native speakers. It's probably the same for Anya and her Japanese.
少なくとも「恐れ入ります」は絶対みこちの口からは出てこない言葉だな。
Sora: "What did Mikochi do?
Chat: Exist
Flashback to a clip in which Miko couldn't understand what she was saying herself. Yup, just a meme :D
Anya the next ambassador 😂
I came here to listen to Sora talk about Anya, I stayed because Sora is defending Miko from 35p bullying her XD
holostaffs had to tell Miko to do her own subtitles for a project because they couldn’t understand her and Sora thought everyone is being mean?😂
@@syaondri : Sora has it? She should probably lend it to Miko, since Miko has sometimes had trouble understanding herself.
She's a goddess ... His omniscient grant her the ability to understand all her JP kouhai's language, including Miko's Elitenesse ...
I wonder if she also understand Chloe's writting ...
She's so seiso, she didn't even realize she also kinda support the joke as she said "better than average japanese".
Ah yes, that feeling when your own friends call you stupid, dumbass, or else, but they like and appreciate you for what you are.
Ribbing.
Sora: Anyone that perpetuates that meme is an enemy?
Wouldn't that make both Hololive and even Miko herself the enemy then?
Welp, figured out what Sora is building a guild for. Not at all a means of raising her own private army to wage war on the world for making fun of Miko. Nope. Not at all. I didn't say anything.
Always a pleasant to see jp bros bantering in chat
Well, people forget that when you learn an outside language, you tend to study the phonetics and formal usages of the liguistics more properly than a native speaker. So Anya may have that as a learned tertiary language or second, while Miko as a native speaker drops formality in her language. My native language is English so I use that informality consistently, and it's hard to break habit. It's just natural for when you know your own language well enough, to not speak it fluently, that you have tendencies to disregard the proper forms unless it's for work/whatever setting appropriate.
Yup, this makes sense, considering a lot of native English speakers couldn't even tell "affect/effect", "its/it's", "your/you're"
This. But considering Japanese themselves are impressed it's safe to say Anya get down their phonetics right to the point sounded native. Even Coco have noticeable accents regarding this.
u dont speak formal english in school? like teachers speaks informally to students and vice versa? 😲
@@davidtogi5878 I'm guessing this is a joke? But, I'll treat it as if it is otherwise. The point I made is because you get so accustomed to the rules of your own language, that you tend to 'break' them to be more relaxed outside of that setting. I even made it a point as part of the last sentence above already. I personally have a minor in writing and know the rules fairly well, but outside of an established environment where it matters like school or work for example, ordinarily, some people, like myself, just get too relaxed at times outside of that. While grammatically wrong in parts in that previous sentence, I made it easy to digest by the usage of commas. Another example is vocally, where you'd use words that aren't in the English proper lexicon but are used frequently like "ain't", "gonna", and etc. When you learn outside languages, like while I'm currently studying Arabic, I'd understand the language on a deeper level and focus on those rules more keenly since those are very important to the culture and apprehension of that language specifically. I can't verify this is as a full fact for everyone on this Earth learning outside languages, but I'm trying to set a baseline comparison to benefit Miko compared to Anya in this specific instance.
I barely even know my own native language, I can speak it for daily use since I use it with instinct if I think I will have a hard time, and I might as well be illiterate at it, I at most as good as a 2nd or 3rd grader, hell I don't even know how to say Purple in my own native language
Whats funny is Miko herself is who started the ranking
wow, I don't think I've seen much of Sora subtitled before!
Repeating the beginning is nice
"Dame dayo"
- HAI!
_koyori enters the chat_
0:38
恐れ入ります osore irimasu☑️
恐れ入るます osore irumasu✖︎
Got to forward Sora some Mikolish clips
awwwwwwwwww she so cute
You heard her guys the goddess has spoken
Sakura Miko is from HoloEliteEn
Breaking news: Miko bullying reaches all-time low.
damedayho
One day Irys, Bae, Anya, and Iofi needs to compete against Mikochi on a Japanese test to who is the best 😂
Sora defending her fellow gen mate 👍
We still use the Jpeg of Anya being boing boing regardless what her mama intended. Her papa is really cultured
1st second alrdy blessed clip
I feel like being scolded by a housewife
sora can understand elite language and us mere mortals cant understand it thats why we laught at miko's japanese and us mortals have been warned by the goddess her self to never be mean to elite babies
Mikochi should teach Anya about eroge games
I am pretty sure eroge is illegal in Indonesia. They did ban all the porn sites
@@Demonologist013 Doesn't mean we can't access them though.. 👀
For example, I can play Nekopara just fine
@@seed_number999 excellent
@@seed_number999 They can access them, but they can't admit to it on stream.
@@Demonologist013 yeah, for alternate we can open it with Vpn or proxy, but no way to stream it cz get banned
meme aside, there's a clip about how hololive staff couldn't understand miko's japanese when they're trying to put in subtitle
Remember those good old day when another Vtuber company would end their Vtuber contract with their talent because of the lack of viewership?
Anya was one of those few talent.
Her early stream doesn't goes to 1k. Mostly 400 to 600 per stream. Luckily, she's with Hololive. I do believe Yagoo/Cover in general see the potential she got.
Cause as of lately Anya get a lot of attention compared to before.
if you didn't mind can you share that forbidden knowlage?
@@syaondri Have someone else commented here before you two?
@@Bah_duku Yes, OP is talking about another company. Plus it's quite exaggerated anyway: Anya viewership does grow a lot in current RUST boom, but Anya average viewership has never been that low anyway. Yes, sometimes she has views at that number, but that is when she plays a super long story heavy games -- those kind of games are never good for viewership for any vtuber. Thankfully Anya is never really bothered with numbers anyway so it's not like we need to worry about it.
@@syaondri whoops I thought he was talking about Anya past, sorry bout that my english understanding are bad lmao
@@zeroyuki92 You are wrong and are missing the point.
Anya is Gura's sister, as in they have the same creator. She's also oppai loli chara and is fluent in Japanese. Expectation for her before debut was very high but turnout ended up much lower than expected. Still, Anya has been doing better as of late and that was the point.
cute
if Sora already said "Damedayo", we know what to do right?
why its more funnier when sora says anya more fluent than mikochi 🤣🤣🤣
Miko is not baka, she is just pon baby
Anya is like Eminem compared to Miko's mumblerapping.
I want to see if Sora can guess and decipher Mikochi's Japanese in a bunch of clips before answering. While Mikochi is there with her. Lol
Sora already used to Miko ELITE language, and cause she knew Miko better. That's why she has no problem with the language 😂
0:29
to be actually fair , it is a fact lmao
Nah that not just a meme even fan mikochi sometime dont understand what the hell miko say
Wpic
oof.. ok now that meme is dead.. it's a goddess' decree
👍😅👍
i try to watch miko and luna while learning Japanese .it was not fun
although anya is more fluent injapanese compared to other id member, somehow i rarely see her as translator/interprator, that role usually played by iofi or ollie
1. She is often with Holoro or by herself. On those cases they don't need translator/interpreter because all Holoro doesn't need it (and whenever she's alone in HoloJP/other JP vtuber collab obviously she could just blend in)
2. Whenever she's with member that nihongo jouzun't she did translate for them, like in recent holosummer collab where she translates back and forth for Kaela.
She translate HoloIDcup and Holosummer, she helping Ollie write her script in Japanese for her debut, what do you mean "rarely", she even use Japanese when collabing with id member so the JPniki still understand what they are saying
*That's not good*
G-Gomenasai
That not a memes when say miko Japanese bad though
No doubt, obviously mikochi more fluent than anya cz she is native tho
Forget about Mikocchi, I'd put Anya above like 70% of HoloJP. I'm just a dirty weeb-lord but Anya's JP in both words & pronunciation is assrapingly great, far better than Haachama or Miko. Only true tongue queens like A-chan & Takane Lui cleanly overtake her IMO.
Tongue queens sounds, how do I put it, it sounds (○////○)