The Problems With PP in osu! (ft.

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  • Опубликовано: 18 ноя 2024

Комментарии • 47

  • @frumly
    @frumly 6 месяцев назад +18

    I wonder what was the first edit of the thumbnail 😏

    • @lonelyweeb03
      @lonelyweeb03  6 месяцев назад +5

      we do not mention that...

    • @maxim-miau
      @maxim-miau 6 месяцев назад

      @@lonelyweeb03 🤫

    • @encatosu
      @encatosu 6 месяцев назад

      no way its debris

  • @tingmomentum
    @tingmomentum 6 месяцев назад +29

    a majority of mania players dont even play ranked maps now, all the star rating nerfs and dodgy BNs really ruins the fun of pp farming

    • @lonelyweeb03
      @lonelyweeb03  6 месяцев назад +2

      there are some normal maps here and there, but not rly enough to overshadow the LN maps. personally don't like mint's maps tbf

    • @tingmomentum
      @tingmomentum 6 месяцев назад +3

      @@lonelyweeb03 90% of the community dont like mint maps lmao

    • @lonelyweeb03
      @lonelyweeb03  6 месяцев назад +1

      so i am not alone in thinking like that is what you're telling me

    • @tingmomentum
      @tingmomentum 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@lonelyweeb03 definitely not

  • @fekl0416
    @fekl0416 6 месяцев назад +9

    Imo the pp system in standard is good. the 1 thing i hate about the pp system is that if you miss it can give still give alot of pp or barely give anything depending on where you miss on the map

    • @lonelyweeb03
      @lonelyweeb03  6 месяцев назад

      I'd say that std has their priorities straight if even stew says that players there value high effort plays

  • @Americanpsyho2003
    @Americanpsyho2003 6 месяцев назад +9

    lets be clear
    pp =/= skill

  • @UnbipentiumM
    @UnbipentiumM 6 месяцев назад +3

    Even if mania awarded pp for long notes as if it were rice, it still doesn't fix the original biggest problem being that pattern difficulty is not measured at all and star rating and pp is basically directly proportional to density. Obviously though pattern difficulty is really hard to measure accurately considering etterna often produces very under or over weighted ratings all the time

  • @peaceful_rhythm
    @peaceful_rhythm 6 месяцев назад +9

    as a top osu!taiko player. Current pp meta of osu!taiko is just uhhhhh in many ways.

    • @4lw921
      @4lw921 6 месяцев назад +1

      kkd kkk ddk ddd

    • @itsmetimtim
      @itsmetimtim 6 месяцев назад +1

      hello peaceful! ^w^/

    • @peaceful_rhythm
      @peaceful_rhythm 6 месяцев назад

      @@itsmetimtim Hello o/

  • @femireok
    @femireok 6 месяцев назад +3

    I remember when I started playing osu mania, where the old farm maps required raw skill that didn't involve LNs, whenever I look at the ranked/qualified section and check some maps, it's either a 1:1 ratio with rice:LN notes, or there is double (or even triple) the LNs than there are normal notes. Hurts to see honestly.

  • @ForcedToPay23
    @ForcedToPay23 6 месяцев назад +5

    I really miss the early era of osu!mania to late 2021. It was a time where there was no overinflated ln maps and each top play you made felt like a real accomplishment. Sucks that the maps in the ranked section now takes out the satisfaction of farming

  • @abyss7343
    @abyss7343 6 месяцев назад +2

    It never mattered...

  • @OMBulgaria
    @OMBulgaria 6 месяцев назад +2

    Lonely you will be forever lonely.
    Anyways Great Video Keep going you are doing amazing.
    -Frutka Putka
    (Abrok e pedal) (Ne)

    • @lonelyweeb03
      @lonelyweeb03  6 месяцев назад

      znam che e pedal, ti go dokaza sam

    • @OMBulgaria
      @OMBulgaria 6 месяцев назад

      @@lonelyweeb03 pepelnik

  • @Orcanos_
    @Orcanos_ 6 месяцев назад +7

    You made a mistake on the current 4k pp record bro, its myuka's hall +dt play, not his rte

    • @lonelyweeb03
      @lonelyweeb03  6 месяцев назад +3

      Aww man :(
      This was just an example so it doesn't rly harm the video in any poiny

  • @xd3athclawx554
    @xd3athclawx554 6 месяцев назад +3

    Honestly from what I can see the only pp system that works right now is the standard pp system. Mania, taiko and ctb all seem to be dead in terms of pp, especially mania. Saying the standard pp system is the best pp system is funny considering how many people complain about it.

  • @Nico777Playz
    @Nico777Playz 6 месяцев назад +2

    dare i say pp count can get to cause problems with certain people specifically (for example rank 2k global, however the skill in question would be of a 3 digit)

  • @Londonlolxd
    @Londonlolxd 6 месяцев назад +1

    id be fine with manias current pp system if percy got banned
    makes ln easy af

  • @synixosu
    @synixosu 6 месяцев назад +12

    gyze
    just play etterna

    • @VPshandlewasstolen
      @VPshandlewasstolen 6 месяцев назад

      never

    • @IcyPan
      @IcyPan 6 месяцев назад

      I don’t have a computer ,what I do?

    • @synixosu
      @synixosu 6 месяцев назад +9

      @@IcyPan steal one

    • @Americanpsyho2003
      @Americanpsyho2003 6 месяцев назад +1

      spitting facts

    • @judehanma
      @judehanma 6 месяцев назад

      Play etterna and have depression within the 1st hours of your "human cycle wasted" because of a cbrush that caused your 99% hello kitty AA to a negative -15374744%

  • @Ingen419
    @Ingen419 6 месяцев назад +3

    Short answer, no

  • @zzvlo
    @zzvlo 6 месяцев назад

    6:06 the 4k pp record is actually on HALL +DT

  • @hanatachi1665
    @hanatachi1665 5 месяцев назад +1

    Osu mania pp doesnt mean shit anymore now that most top players are quitting it just feels like theres nothing else to accomplish most people back then wanted to be better than another but now its just "who cares i play for fun" now so its kind of pointless to farm now

    • @lonelyweeb03
      @lonelyweeb03  5 месяцев назад

      best take so far, and i have to agree with you too. nowadays it feels like there's a competition for "who can make the most inflated map" or "the most difficult ln map there is to play", it starts to become stale after a while

  • @encatosu
    @encatosu 6 месяцев назад

    Myu's PP record is actually HaLL with DT

  • @Linda-
    @Linda- 6 месяцев назад +2

    i for one completely stopped caring, especially because i dont like the fact that theres a 'meta' for earning pp - a system judging a persons skill in a game full of variety like osu! should not have overweighted and underweighted playstyles

  • @maricarespino1340
    @maricarespino1340 6 месяцев назад +1

    the thumbnail is wild

  • @AquaFan420
    @AquaFan420 6 месяцев назад +2

    it never did

  • @alicenai3
    @alicenai3 6 месяцев назад +1

    Me in my second farming arc: 🗿✨

  • @stilb4
    @stilb4 6 месяцев назад +1

    W vid to watch at 3 am

  • @maxim-miau
    @maxim-miau 6 месяцев назад +1

    NEW LONELYWEEB03 UPLOAD LES GOOO