Now that I think about it and have given it a second thought. It will probably be better if they just make a teen Titans movie. Her character might actually be too spooky and demonish for the general audience. And it would kind of be hard to get sales when the main character's dad is the devil AKA Trigon lol
@@IvaNTheUnStoppable if people can get under the wing of batman the dark knight im sure they could for raven as well. anime does a real good job with anti hero's and individuals that have horrible fathers like in seven deadly sins. if we can get down with an anti hero then it can happen. but now that you say it a teen titan movie would be perfect in introducing her. shes like the wednseday from addams family except with powers.
14:57 - 15:24 I don't think I've seen this person's art before. Their style looks really cool. The stylization is fantastical but isn't overboard, you can feel the movement in the action, the way the magic circles and energies are drawn feels dynamic and then the colors are vibrant and really makes it all pop. Also, in regards to Raven specifically, I think it might be one of the nicest balances of incorporating elements of the show's design with elements of the comic's that I've seen.
7:32 Love ma girl Rae , can’t ever forget her nephews Etrigan and Merlin!! Especially because Merlin is supposed to be a hybrid sorcerer like Raven, the whole family so cool!! Dope video so far!!
@@Rob-zk6rc I don’t know tbh , she is the first generation of trigon and Etrigan and Merlin are both second generation but they are all so power it’s crazy
@@ZaeArea She took out Belial without any problem while they both had to fight together to beat him so Raven should be more powerfull then each one of them.
@@grandcanyon-fu9zt oh ok then in that case use other top tier magic users like Nabu/Dr Fate, House of M Scarlet Witch, Zatanna with the elemental midget. Idk how these guys will stack up against her honestly.
@@grandcanyon-fu9zt I mean skullgirls has range to of unique feats like black dahlia beat the main Boss first before burying everybody in skullgirl without the skull heart
Geez, i knew she was a powerhouse but I didn't think she was that OP. Hulk really is a good comparison to her. They might as well made a world war Hulk story about her but on every plane of existence.
So much for a upgrade sm got his butt kicked. Thats what I tell ppl sm may have all.these features but don't mean crap . only ba was the last man standing without upgrading. And won. Thats 2 times in ww3 and these comic ba so underrated. So is raven. Ya good posted Hopefully sm fan boys dont start crying lol. Ur rigjt
bruh superman is not weak to magic he's vulnerable to it, hes tanked magical attacks and can also absorb magical energy. he's too fast also his heat vision can actually burn souls.
@@vengeancegq6ro Only reason he ever beat Shazam was because Shazam has the mentality of a child. Otherwise, Shazam could easily knock Superman out. Raven, who has thousands of years of experience, is easily able to beat him.
@@dragnridr05 no he beats him coz hes stronger faster smarter and more durable. he has the better feats, stop. raven is good but superman has resisted magic from the likes of mordru, whos much better at magic than raven. again superman has better feats that both. superman is the nexus of dc, that brother doesn't lose.
About Raven fighting the Spectre in Dark Crisis, one should also consider the fact that Raven was in her human form. She wasn't even using her demon form, the one with the four purple glowing eyes. Because, yeah, Raven's powers are now purple and in Deadly Green, her eyes reflect that. Speaking of Deadly Green, she even had that even more demonic demon form that had wings and six eyes. In short, neither Raven nor the Spectre was at full power in Dark Crisis war Zone yet they easily were equals to each other. The Spectre had to fight dirty by throwing around the other heroes and Doomsday interfered just so Spectre could gain the upper hand
@@grandcanyon-l7d spectre didn't smoke her... raven was holding back as spectre wanted raven to enter her dark mode, which as when she was regular she was going hand to hand making it hard for spectre to defeat her. if raven had kicked into her dark self she would of won plus if she used her soul self...
@@grandcanyon-d4dshe lost because she was getting hit with heros at once she was holding back because of not wanting to give into the darkness if she gave in she would have took over the multiverse literally would have became the new presence of DC the specter literally went into hiding ...and they still wasn't safe
in new earth continuity she was already capable of unkindness level stuff such as stated to be capable of destroying heaven with anger alone or being the nexus of all realities even archetypal realms because she states her soul inhabits the space between all afterlives
My reaction: Just keep pushing!!!!!!!! Push!!!!!!!!! Push!!!!!!!!!!!! You're Daughter is a Miracle and she will be an extremely powerful sexy hot immortal Goddess who will be free to control her own destiny.
Power Wise: Raven is High Multiversal yet breaching the realms of Lower Outerverse, meaning she has narrative awareness and can interact with her authors and execs on how her power is spent. No wonder Raven is considered a threat to Re-run 52!Justice League run, she could casually wipe out all and any aspect or instance of Injustice!Superman and his Golden-Age form!!?!?
@@grandcanyon-d4d Silver Age, Pre-52, New Gods 1 and 2, and I think DC Ultima 46? Besides that, Raven is still an OP magic user who could definitely be an aspect of what life needs. Without her, Superhero's WOULDN'T exist in any scale!
@@grandcanyon-d4d age really doesn't matter as in the 03'cartoon we saw kid Raven fight off her dead with Robin's team talk. But it was weirdly confirmed that version of Trigon was fairly weak for the kid content of the CN channel.
3@@IvaNTheUnStoppable I understand the lore and story are hyper-complicated and convoluted, though the characters are pretty cool and awesome. What about Soul Calibur and Ninja Gaiden?
Hey there. Can you provide comic books, issues, feats, and statements that help you conclude your assumptions for this and your other comments above, please?
15:08 You say @ 1% with assistance over a controlled Spectre ... then jump to comparisons of an uncontrolled Spectre that is at 100% of it's capability. There is now way She would be able to stand against him. She would need ALL those amps from future state.
1% was like a random number yo. What I was saying is that anybody that can match even 1% .. they never gave an actual number so that was just a random number. Anybody that can give even 1% of some being as powerful Spectre some issues is an impressive feat. It could have been less than 1%. It could have been 0.00001% who the freak really knows. Regardless of what that is. matching him for a little bit even if he's not at full power is insane. That's the point Don't get hung up on those numbers
Raven is definitely S tier when it comes to the power scaling between the Titans. In my opinion definitely the most powerful member. As Elden Ring taught me, magic users are definitely OP. If your fighting against a team with a mage it’s basically over before it’s even begun! Raven’s awesome.
Yeah basically any fictional tournament. You always want a magic user on your squad. That's a must! The greatest support healing and they can buff you lol Like an RPG game or something or like a party member on final Fantasy video games!
It used to be Supes could not deal with magic and the arcane so current writers have made him OP AF!!! He is basically and embodiment of God so using him as a baseline is pointless. I originally started reading TT back in the 80/90 during the Tara storyline and Raven was the most mysterious and compelling character to me. I love her powerset and I'm glad to see she has developed
GOOD VIDEO, RAVEN is my FAVORITE CHARACTER, that's why I got interested in comics and superheroes, I hope DC would stop putting her aside, to focus only on Batman, Superman and Wonder Woman, I don't want her to be over exploited as much as those characters, I wish they had put her in Young Justice instead of wasting time with so many boring and forgettable characters , I liked that Raven appeared in the animated movies I even liked her relationship with DamianI hope they take advantage of it and put it in the new animated universe of movies
@@kingshadow8782 that's not so true... ravens soul self is intangible while phoenix isn't so technically phoenix cannot touch ravens soul self at all... dealing no damage...
@@KyePritchard-tm9fhAre you dumb? Seriously... Phoenix is a conceptual entity, who can manipulate souls not just that, it will remove Raven narrative conceptually, it's literally the embodiment of all life and its realm is where souls go.
I’m back after Death Battle announced Raven vs Phoenix as their next fight. Really hyped to see it honestly. Hope it surpasses Broly vs Hulk in terms of destruction.
@@michaelgarcia5680 "forcing their moral codes on her" this is such an "i dont understand raven"...raven has her own moral code, she isnt being good cause nigthwing told her so...
I know this has nothing to do with Raven, but as you talked about Spectre a lot, anyone know why his design looks so similar to Dr. Doom? Seriously, if someone held up a portrait of Spectre next to a portrait of Dr. Doom and asked me to determine which is which, I don't think I could.
@@IvaNTheUnStoppable Fair. Upon looking at both pictures more closely, I think I can spot the difference (Spectre's skin, while having the same/similar color, isn't as metallic as Doom's armor.)
John Constantine: *Speaks with Damian wayne* "we need your help mate i will train you to stop this bloody witch if she became evil" Damian Wayne: "i've beat gotham girl with with magic without any damage and know she's daugher of satan but i..." John Constantine: "she will kill us if she lost control, even zee saw evil inside her" Damian Wayne: *sigh* FINE
Im pretty sure in the comics they don’t rlly like each other, plus in the comics Raven is a whole grown woman probably pushing 30 and Damian is 14, they don’t talk much at all, when they do it’s obviously gonna be abt battle stuff, nothing else
I hate the raven retcon they did that he talked about in this video. Similar to how marvel keeps retconning the beyonders & Owen Reece, stop just let niggas cook, stop changing their lore, it fucks with their power scaling & their overall story.
@@grandcanyon-fu9zt doesn't matter, just because a comic run says, "everything is together" doesn't actually mean everything is together there are still writers fuvking up the lore & power scaling because they choose to write the backstory's in different ways to make their comic seem different.
Maybe more than her, now unkindness raven is as powerful as Lucifer or Michael (2nd most powerful characters in Dc) and i heard that she absorbed or overcame overvoid stuff like things which basically presence and luci like beings just survived 😮
Actually, she destroyed all of creation as stated in the Comics of DC Future State. So that's basically Multiverses with the entire God-Sphere aswell. Basically all of creation was absorbed into the eternal endless omniversal Darkness of The Unkindness Raven. She destroyed Heaven and Hell and every single being in the final days of DC Comics, along with realms like the endless, new genesis, the speed force, the source wall, apokalyps, underworld, dream, a place outside the entire Multiverse which was known as The Vanishing Point, etc... till nil... so basically she is more powerful than even The Presence, means she's Overvoid-level powerful. Keep in mind Raven isn't always necessarily going to be this powerful every single time, she got this broken because of the events that happened in the 2021 issues of DC Future State Comics where she had no choice but to get this insanely powerful by absorbing the most powerful beings in Future State known as The 4 Horsemen of Apocalypse, this led to her embracing the darkness within her and that's why she did what she had to do to survive, which basically means killing and destroying everything and everyone even The Presence and his Creations and all of reality/creation just so that The Overvoid could pull a reset when nothing was left and basically birthing a new age kind of event as all hope seemed lost. So, basically Raven destroys and absorbs entire DC Cosmology and all the DC Character's. So, Unkindness Raven is new all-powerful being of DC Cosmos. This is Raven at her most powerful form which is known as "The Unkindness"!!! So, in this form, no one and nothing can stop her, she has no weaknesses and plot armor can't do nothing, even existence erasure won't work on her. Literally, feats showings of Raven destroying and consuming all planes of creation/reality, shows just how powerful she has become. So, yea, these are just some things to consider.
Raven got some massively OP powers. Definitely more powerful than Trigon.
Nah trigon is genuinely seen as the single greatest threat to exsitstnce pure evil and is so strong he was considered saitan only to the 100th power
@@MontrellTellaTruthdude trigon himself is afraid of raven and trigon got one shoted by bizarro.
@@MontrellTellaTruththe unkindness was stated to absorb everything in hell leaving it a wasteland
@@MontrellTellaTruththe dark winged queen
Raven has always been one of my fav comic book characters ever since teen titans
Her full potential is insane!
You should see the bullshit they pulled off in titans beast world issue 5
She needs her own movie
Say it louder!
It'd flop ,she's not interesting.
Now that I think about it and have given it a second thought. It will probably be better if they just make a teen Titans movie. Her character might actually be too spooky and demonish for the general audience. And it would kind of be hard to get sales when the main character's dad is the devil AKA Trigon lol
@@IvaNTheUnStoppable if people can get under the wing of batman the dark knight im sure they could for raven as well. anime does a real good job with anti hero's and individuals that have horrible fathers like in seven deadly sins. if we can get down with an anti hero then it can happen. but now that you say it a teen titan movie would be perfect in introducing her. shes like the wednseday from addams family except with powers.
@@07sjeanlouis she's just an extremely nerfed plot device, not an interesting character.
Raven needs to be done justice in the big screen!
Yeah! No more TV shows! She's too strong for low budget shows!
Teen Titans Go Lols
@@grandcanyon-fu9zt ha ha yeah that's probably as close as we've gotten.
Facts I agree
They won't do it right dc is too WOKE
I love the fact that Raven is Merlin's aunt. It's like Greek mythology, just without the incest
Wait what!!!
@@alexandrovalladaresfalcon5783 yeah merlin is raven nephew and etrigon is also raven nephew
@@families9654 wow
I love Raven, shes the coolest she's so OP and she's interesting she needs her own movie and her own show.
Facts!
Raven is one of my favorite DC heroes
Dang, evil future Raven chasing the Spectre away. That’s scary. Still best girl though. Great video again Ivan
@imDeadCalm base raven is consistently stronger than neron
"His eyes are 23 light years apart." 😂😂😂😂 this is a savage roast to the normal person
So basically ravens a God and up there with Superman, Shazam and others
She's a demon only ,and don't use the word God in vain please.
This why I like Raven she is op
She such a super bad bitch just got introduced to her first time watching Titans I like that dark mystic energy yet still she chose to use it for good
14:57 - 15:24 I don't think I've seen this person's art before. Their style looks really cool. The stylization is fantastical but isn't overboard, you can feel the movement in the action, the way the magic circles and energies are drawn feels dynamic and then the colors are vibrant and really makes it all pop. Also, in regards to Raven specifically, I think it might be one of the nicest balances of incorporating elements of the show's design with elements of the comic's that I've seen.
Agreed
Her and Starfire have INSANE potential !!
7:32 Love ma girl Rae , can’t ever forget her nephews Etrigan and Merlin!! Especially because Merlin is supposed to be a hybrid sorcerer like Raven, the whole family so cool!! Dope video so far!!
She's stronger than both ,right ?
@@Rob-zk6rc I don’t know tbh , she is the first generation of trigon and Etrigan and Merlin are both second generation but they are all so power it’s crazy
@@ZaeArea who's more powerful
@imDeadCalm … You are massively underestimating Etrigan and Merlin
@@ZaeArea She took out Belial without any problem while they both had to fight together to beat him so Raven should be more powerfull then each one of them.
Raven basically smokes people like Hela and Annihilus! Even Neron is scared of her
The only people I think could take her on are top tier hell lords like Peak Dormammu and Trigon.
@@michaelgarcia5680 I am talking about base forms, they spank her...
@@grandcanyon-fu9zt oh ok then in that case use other top tier magic users like Nabu/Dr Fate, House of M Scarlet Witch, Zatanna with the elemental midget. Idk how these guys will stack up against her honestly.
@@michaelgarcia5680 I was talking about base forms, not power ups...
@imDeadCalm her father and Dormmamu are stronger in base forms tho
Hax: Soul hax,Telepathy,empathy,aka emotion manipulation,magic expert,matter matter manipulation,energy manipulation,teleportation to other dimensions
Raven is ridiculous as her nephew Etrigan and belial
she's actually more powerful than both combined
Huh besides that I think skullgirls should get how strong they are
@@sparkplusultra9289 wdym ?
@@grandcanyon-fu9zt I mean skullgirls has range to of unique feats like black dahlia beat the main Boss first before burying everybody in skullgirl without the skull heart
@@sparkplusultra9289 what does this have to do with the original comment (yours)?
Geez, i knew she was a powerhouse but I didn't think she was that OP. Hulk really is a good comparison to her. They might as well made a world war Hulk story about her but on every plane of existence.
1:56 I like how the artist actually gave her the "steel grey" eyes she was originally described with.
Even Superman can't touch her in her base form because she is a being of pure magic. Kryptonian DNA basically is weak against magic.
So much for a upgrade sm got his butt kicked. Thats what I tell ppl sm may have all.these features but don't mean crap . only ba was the last man standing without upgrading. And won. Thats 2 times in ww3 and these comic ba so underrated. So is raven. Ya good posted Hopefully sm fan boys dont start crying lol. Ur rigjt
bruh superman is not weak to magic he's vulnerable to it, hes tanked magical attacks and can also absorb magical energy. he's too fast also his heat vision can actually burn souls.
@@vengeancegq6ro Only reason he ever beat Shazam was because Shazam has the mentality of a child. Otherwise, Shazam could easily knock Superman out.
Raven, who has thousands of years of experience, is easily able to beat him.
@@dragnridr05 no he beats him coz hes stronger faster smarter and more durable. he has the better feats, stop. raven is good but superman has resisted magic from the likes of mordru, whos much better at magic than raven. again superman has better feats that both. superman is the nexus of dc, that brother doesn't lose.
Excexpt when he loses... @@vengeancegq6ro
First off thank you for this I'm a raven stan and yes injustice raven was the best. A spectacular showcase of her.
About Raven fighting the Spectre in Dark Crisis, one should also consider the fact that Raven was in her human form. She wasn't even using her demon form, the one with the four purple glowing eyes. Because, yeah, Raven's powers are now purple and in Deadly Green, her eyes reflect that. Speaking of Deadly Green, she even had that even more demonic demon form that had wings and six eyes. In short, neither Raven nor the Spectre was at full power in Dark Crisis war Zone yet they easily were equals to each other. The Spectre had to fight dirty by throwing around the other heroes and Doomsday interfered just so Spectre could gain the upper hand
Spectre smoked her , he's way out of her league in base levels.
@@grandcanyon-l7d spectre didn't smoke her... raven was holding back as spectre wanted raven to enter her dark mode, which as when she was regular she was going hand to hand making it hard for spectre to defeat her. if raven had kicked into her dark self she would of won plus if she used her soul self...
@@KyePritchard-tm9fhshe still loses
@@grandcanyon-d4dshe lost because she was getting hit with heros at once she was holding back because of not wanting to give into the darkness if she gave in she would have took over the multiverse literally would have became the new presence of DC the specter literally went into hiding ...and they still wasn't safe
@@moedavis1944 she was still a darkness puppet... base raven has no chance winning this fight.
in new earth continuity she was already capable of unkindness level stuff such as stated to be capable of destroying heaven with anger alone or being the nexus of all realities even archetypal realms because she states her soul inhabits the space between all afterlives
She's legit scary at times...
She IS Trigon's actual daughter, though...
She is more powerful than her father.
She's stronger than Neron
She reminds me Merlim, Scarlet Witch and Show White.
Raven time!
My reaction: Just keep pushing!!!!!!!! Push!!!!!!!!! Push!!!!!!!!!!!! You're Daughter is a Miracle and she will be an extremely powerful sexy hot immortal Goddess who will be free to control her own destiny.
Raven strength and durability in base:multiversal+ to high hypervsal+(infinite4d to high 1b) aka scaling to the bleed
white raven; high oute boundless levels aka creation level
Raven reminds me of Wanda from the mcu not phoenix
demonform raven: high outer layers to boundless levels or extraversal levels (high 1a tier0 ,or 1s) godsphere to near creation level
Pls can you do wallace west I wanna know how fast he is
Great video!
Raven speed in combat and travel:mftl+ to infinite speed,inaccessible, and immeasurable speed and layers into irrelevant speed
Superman is outter rn Omni to outter in comics rn plus new power call Concert manipulation
Power Wise: Raven is High Multiversal yet breaching the realms of Lower Outerverse, meaning she has narrative awareness and can interact with her authors and execs on how her power is spent. No wonder Raven is considered a threat to Re-run 52!Justice League run, she could casually wipe out all and any aspect or instance of Injustice!Superman and his Golden-Age form!!?!?
Which version of raven you talk about?
@@grandcanyon-d4d Silver Age, Pre-52, New Gods 1 and 2, and I think DC Ultima 46? Besides that, Raven is still an OP magic user who could definitely be an aspect of what life needs. Without her, Superhero's WOULDN'T exist in any scale!
@@XSilver_WaterX what about adult raven?
@@grandcanyon-d4d age really doesn't matter as in the 03'cartoon we saw kid Raven fight off her dead with Robin's team talk. But it was weirdly confirmed that version of Trigon was fairly weak for the kid content of the CN channel.
@@XSilver_WaterX i am talking about the comics, how old is she now?
The fate of the universe is in her hands and I trust her
and telekinesis
with soulseĺf:high hypervsal+ to high outer eleven layers into it(high 1b to high outer) aka bleed to sphere of the gods
Unkindness is the ultimate being
IvaN The UnStoppable what's your opinion on the Omni Man vs Homelander thing , who do you believe will win and why
Omni one punches
He’s way stronger
Faster
More durable!
@@IvaNTheUnStoppable Ok thanks
@@IvaNTheUnStoppable Can you power-scale Blazblue characters starting with Ragna?
@@hamizanyunos1502 not really into that verse honestly
3@@IvaNTheUnStoppable I understand the lore and story are hyper-complicated and convoluted, though the characters are pretty cool and awesome. What about Soul Calibur and Ninja Gaiden?
white raven and normal at her peak:high outer to boundless levels or boundless levels to extraversal aka creation level
Hey there. Can you provide comic books, issues, feats, and statements that help you conclude your assumptions for this and your other comments above, please?
Hahaha he ain’t doing that
@@IvaNTheUnStoppable lol maybe, but it was worth a try.
@@restmyloveshe lying.
15:08 You say @ 1% with assistance over a controlled Spectre ... then jump to comparisons of an uncontrolled Spectre that is at 100% of it's capability. There is now way She would be able to stand against him. She would need ALL those amps from future state.
1% was like a random number yo. What I was saying is that anybody that can match even 1% .. they never gave an actual number so that was just a random number. Anybody that can give even 1% of some being as powerful Spectre some issues is an impressive feat.
It could have been less than 1%. It could have been 0.00001% who the freak really knows. Regardless of what that is. matching him for a little bit even if he's not at full power is insane. That's the point Don't get hung up on those numbers
Raven is definitely S tier when it comes to the power scaling between the Titans. In my opinion definitely the most powerful member. As Elden Ring taught me, magic users are definitely OP. If your fighting against a team with a mage it’s basically over before it’s even begun! Raven’s awesome.
Yeah basically any fictional tournament. You always want a magic user on your squad. That's a must! The greatest support healing and they can buff you lol
Like an RPG game or something or like a party member on final Fantasy video games!
It used to be Supes could not deal with magic and the arcane so current writers have made him OP AF!!! He is basically and embodiment of God so using him as a baseline is pointless.
I originally started reading TT back in the 80/90 during the Tara storyline and Raven was the most mysterious and compelling character to me. I love her powerset and I'm glad to see she has developed
Please do aqualad ! Jackson wade
🤔
16:37 imagine if she was in Stalin's gulags
his cannibal island was LITERALLY something out of a horror movie
😑😐 *Honestly, her ballistics blasts is impressive* .
She like Galactus on steroids and maybe even on par with Phoenix of the white room, no limit to what she can absorb 😮
Nah, never
GOOD VIDEO, RAVEN is my FAVORITE CHARACTER, that's why I got interested in comics and superheroes, I hope DC would stop putting her aside, to focus only on Batman, Superman and Wonder Woman, I don't want her to be over exploited as much as those characters, I wish they had put her in Young Justice instead of wasting time with so many boring and forgettable characters , I liked that Raven appeared in the animated movies I even liked her relationship with DamianI hope they take advantage of it and put it in the new animated universe of movies
Yes they don't know what to do with her TBH!
@@IvaNTheUnStoppable YOU ARE RIGHT, thanks for making a video with such detailed information
She been one of the most feared in her base form lol That ain't something new
Jean Grey Phoenix mode versus Raven soul self ?😅
Jean Grey Phoenix Force one shots Raven best chance is to fight the Scarlet Witch.
@@kingshadow8782 base forms, raven slams both of them
@@kingshadow8782 that's not so true... ravens soul self is intangible while phoenix isn't so technically phoenix cannot touch ravens soul self at all... dealing no damage...
@@KyePritchard-tm9fhAre you dumb? Seriously... Phoenix is a conceptual entity, who can manipulate souls not just that, it will remove Raven narrative conceptually, it's literally the embodiment of all life and its realm is where souls go.
I’m back after Death Battle announced Raven vs Phoenix as their next fight. Really hyped to see it honestly. Hope it surpasses Broly vs Hulk in terms of destruction.
Unkindness would probably happen if Gar died or something like that
It's no more
Mind blown
Can you do rwby characters
Imagine Raven as an anti hero
I know I have said this before but she would be less limited by heroes like Batman and Nightwing forcing their moral codes on her.
Then she would have no powers
@@gonhunter3994 there are many anti heroes with powers..
@@michaelgarcia5680 "forcing their moral codes on her" this is such an "i dont understand raven"...raven has her own moral code, she isnt being good cause nigthwing told her so...
I know this has nothing to do with Raven, but as you talked about Spectre a lot, anyone know why his design looks so similar to Dr. Doom? Seriously, if someone held up a portrait of Spectre next to a portrait of Dr. Doom and asked me to determine which is which, I don't think I could.
Maybe DC got inspired and saw how cool Dr Doom's design was and kind of was influenced lol
or it could be just pure coincidence lol
@@IvaNTheUnStoppable Fair. Upon looking at both pictures more closely, I think I can spot the difference (Spectre's skin, while having the same/similar color, isn't as metallic as Doom's armor.)
Do Liz Sherman.
John Constantine: *Speaks with Damian wayne* "we need your help mate i will train you to stop this bloody witch if she became evil"
Damian Wayne: "i've beat gotham girl with with magic without any damage and know she's daugher of satan but i..."
John Constantine: "she will kill us if she lost control, even zee saw evil inside her"
Damian Wayne: *sigh* FINE
they don't like each other in the comics
Im pretty sure in the comics they don’t rlly like each other, plus in the comics Raven is a whole grown woman probably pushing 30 and Damian is 14, they don’t talk much at all, when they do it’s obviously gonna be abt battle stuff, nothing else
I hate the raven retcon they did that he talked about in this video. Similar to how marvel keeps retconning the beyonders & Owen Reece, stop just let niggas cook, stop changing their lore, it fucks with their power scaling & their overall story.
Didn't infinite frontier merge everything?
@@grandcanyon-fu9zt doesn't matter, just because a comic run says, "everything is together" doesn't actually mean everything is together there are still writers fuvking up the lore & power scaling because they choose to write the backstory's in different ways to make their comic seem different.
@@dellmaxson2184 how old is she now ?
John Constantine vs Raven?
Power wise raven
Prep wise John
She is as powerful as the phoenix
Maybe more than her, now unkindness raven is as powerful as Lucifer or Michael (2nd most powerful characters in Dc) and i heard that she absorbed or overcame overvoid stuff like things which basically presence and luci like beings just survived 😮
😂😂 Not event close Raven really overated Phoenix Force Is Second most powerful character in Marvel, Raven is only multiversal+.
and someone would compare scarlet witch to her. mtchewwww. Scarlet is no where near
MCU casuals
So basically unkindness raven is as powerful as luci and Michael or more than them😮
😂😂😂😂
Actually, she destroyed all of creation as stated in the Comics of DC Future State. So that's basically Multiverses with the entire God-Sphere aswell. Basically all of creation was absorbed into the eternal endless omniversal Darkness of The Unkindness Raven. She destroyed Heaven and Hell and every single being in the final days of DC Comics, along with realms like the endless, new genesis, the speed force, the source wall, apokalyps, underworld, dream, a place outside the entire Multiverse which was known as The Vanishing Point, etc... till nil... so basically she is more powerful than even The Presence, means she's Overvoid-level powerful. Keep in mind Raven isn't always necessarily going to be this powerful every single time, she got this broken because of the events that happened in the 2021 issues of DC Future State Comics where she had no choice but to get this insanely powerful by absorbing the most powerful beings in Future State known as The 4 Horsemen of Apocalypse, this led to her embracing the darkness within her and that's why she did what she had to do to survive, which basically means killing and destroying everything and everyone even The Presence and his Creations and all of reality/creation just so that The Overvoid could pull a reset when nothing was left and basically birthing a new age kind of event as all hope seemed lost. So, basically Raven destroys and absorbs entire DC Cosmology and all the DC Character's. So, Unkindness Raven is new all-powerful being of DC Cosmos. This is Raven at her most powerful form which is known as "The Unkindness"!!! So, in this form, no one and nothing can stop her, she has no weaknesses and plot armor can't do nothing, even existence erasure won't work on her. Literally, feats showings of Raven destroying and consuming all planes of creation/reality, shows just how powerful she has become. So, yea, these are just some things to consider.
@@shaunessyalmeida2212 Raven IS only multiversal+ no more lol.
@@jjqg6164which version
Who wins: her or Scarlet Witch?
Which versions
@@grandcanyon-l7d 80s 90s comics originals.
@@viniciusribeiro6451 Raven since they made her an adult again
raven as Wandas weakness is emotion and ravens strengths are emotions
Wanda blinks.
Scarlet witch victim 🤭
with soulseĺf:high hypervsal+ to high outer eleven layers into it(high 1b to high outer) aka bleed to sphere of the gods
with soulseĺf:high hypervsal+ to high outer eleven layers into it(high 1b to high outer) aka bleed to sphere of the gods