I'm very curious what the role of Prince Bernhard was. It is known that he met Lindemans a few days before Market Garden. In the Netherlands this is still a sensitive case.
He would not have betrayed D-Day because Stalin needed it. He betrayed Market- Garden because it made sure that Stalin would reach Berlin first. And with that Stalin also took Eastern Europe. Had Market-Garden been successful then the Brits and the Americans would have reached Berlin first. Churchill knew what was at stake and wanted to get as much territory as possible. Roosevelt and the Americans wanted to end the war as soon as possible even if it meant letting Stalin take huge territories. Roosevelt did not understand Stalin and what Stalin wanted. The same goes for George Marshal and Dwight Eisenhower.
@@tombrunila2695 You are quite right I should have thought it through better. I believe one aspect of the failure which was briefly touched in the film "A Bridge to far" was the young intelligence Officer who got wind of the panzers refitting in the Arnhem area. His report was dismissed at the highest levels, and I recall reading he was also packed off away to a nursing home to avoid any further disturbing reports from him. Also the Poles were firmly against the operation from the beginning and the planning was appalling
The big problem with Market-Garden is the movie !A Bridge Too Far", it seen as the final and gospel truth on the operation. People tend to forget that it was based on a book that was a collection of interviews of those that had participated in the operation. They all had their own perception of it as they had seen it. And of course they had been influenced by what they had heard about it during some thirty years. And one thing is certain, the Germans did not necessarily tell everything they knew.
And A Bridge Too Far completely left out two of the biggest culprits, generals Brereton and Williams of the USAAF. Their caution largely lead to its failure.
My grandfather was Captain Van Poyck, he parachuted into Holland in Operation Market Garden with the 82nd Airborne, i cant imagine what he was thinking, being anxious, brave, full of fear that the day he jumped out of an airplane thinking to himself is this the day i live or die? He was probably thinking will this be the day the germans kill me on my way down to the ground? Will i get hung up in a tree and get killed by a german bullet? Will i land ok and survive? WOW!! the fear must of been SO overwhelming.im proud to have had him as my Grandfather, and YES they were THE GREATEST GENERATION!! I'm looking for his military record online,ive looked into the 82nd Airborne as well as the 101st, But im almost positive he was with the 82nd.Does anyone have any suggestions where to look besides looking up ww2 Airborne records from the war? They werent really useful, any suggestions would be Greatly appreciated. i dony care,any sort of info 24/7 Ty Tommy
Stalin wanted DDay, but he wanted Berlin. Had Market Garden been completely successful (it certainly wasn't a "failure") the Allies would have got to Berlin long before the Soviets!
Market Garden would still have failed, even if it suceeded (if that makes sense) because even if a bridgehead over the Rhine at Arnhem had been achieved, the US 1st Army to the south would still have got bogged down in the Hurtgen Forest (that campaign started just 2 days into Market Garden) and failed to get beyond Aachen. British 2nd Army was never envisaged to go into Germany alone. The capture of the Ruhr would have had to be a pincer movement between British 2nd and US 1st Armies. Market Garden was just the first step, and a northern bridgehead. No more. The broad front was already decided on by Eisenhower in August.
Even if Market Garden suceeded, the British 2nd Army could have gone no further and would have had to sit there and wait until the Americans suceeded in the Hurtgen Forest and got beyond Aachen, which they never did for the rest of 1944. British 2nd Army couldn't have driven deep into Germany on their own.
Ok, I see you. I’ll make my tea 🍵 and relax to this new video later on tonight. Philip Thompson, I’m wondering if you’re going to thrill us with a video on Michal Goleniewski? Thanks.
Stalin demanded D Day on France as the Second Front even tough in Italy, by then, the Allies were succesfull knocking out Italy's Mussolini from the war. And Stalin was a very costly mistake made by Roosevelt and Churchill that started the so called "Cold War" when Stalin should've been tried at Nuremberg.
My father was a survivor of the Arnhem campaign. He joined the Paras as an 18 year old in 1944. We immigrated to Australia in 1969. My father and I often attended the annual Arnhem dinner in 🇦🇺 Australia with the British Legion and the British High Commission every year in September. My father introduced me to one of his comrades, who was his Drill Seargent and was with Col Frost, who was captured by the Germans on the Arnhem bridge. He also immigrated to Australia. I attended his funeral. My father passed away in 2003. I did see some some discussion, last year, which tapped into recently uncovered Dutch archives about the intelligence background around operation MG. This work marked the 80th anniversary of MG. I did see Blunt's name was mentioned. I can't recall the evidence, but there was evidence, albeit inferential, that Blunt was possibly involved. I note that Blunt stated publicly, after his spying role became public in 1977, that his activities did not lead to allied caualities. Thank you for this.
The Dutch section of SOE was betrayed very early in the war by someone with a high clearance. Not say ing it was Blunt, but someone like that would have had access to Arnam related intelligence.
@@anthonychase4364you need to brush up on your understanding. Listening is not research. The speaker has a speech pattern that is extremely tedious to listen to, he repeats himself over and over and the way he speaks doesn't "flow" at all. It wouldn't matter what the topic is. Your pattern needs some help too.
That's a bit harsh, and condescending. Surely, with the trove of new documentary evidence emerging from British intelligence archives, it's perfectly reasonable for historians to undertake this kind of investigation. What's the issue?
I'm very curious what the role of Prince Bernhard was. It is known that he met Lindemans a few days before Market Garden.
In the Netherlands this is still a sensitive case.
Amazing video!
Great video! We get a more complete picture of WWII and the Cold War with every video, keep up it up!
if Blunt was in the loop he would have given away the date and D-Day beaches? Consider that and he spent not one day in prison
He would not have betrayed D-Day because Stalin needed it. He betrayed Market- Garden because it made sure that Stalin would reach Berlin first. And with that Stalin also took Eastern Europe. Had Market-Garden been successful then the Brits and the Americans would have reached Berlin first. Churchill knew what was at stake and wanted to get as much territory as possible. Roosevelt and the Americans wanted to end the war as soon as possible even if it meant letting Stalin take huge territories. Roosevelt did not understand Stalin and what Stalin wanted. The same goes for George Marshal and Dwight Eisenhower.
@@tombrunila2695 You are quite right I should have thought it through better. I believe one aspect of the failure which was briefly touched in the film "A Bridge to far" was the young intelligence Officer who got wind of the panzers refitting in the Arnhem area. His report was dismissed at the highest levels, and I recall reading he was also packed off away to a nursing home to avoid any further disturbing reports from him. Also the Poles were firmly against the operation from the beginning and the planning was appalling
Awesome video!!
Keep up with the high quality videos!!
This should have millions of views, for everyone who SUSPECTED all these years.
This is so good! I hope to check out this book soon
#1 book I am looking forward to getting my hands on when it is published here in the States this year!!
In Arnhem right now.😂
The big problem with Market-Garden is the movie !A Bridge Too Far", it seen as the final and gospel truth on the operation. People tend to forget that it was based on a book that was a collection of interviews of those that had participated in the operation. They all had their own perception of it as they had seen it. And of course they had been influenced by what they had heard about it during some thirty years. And one thing is certain, the Germans did not necessarily tell everything they knew.
And A Bridge Too Far completely left out two of the biggest culprits, generals Brereton and Williams of the USAAF. Their caution largely lead to its failure.
I could listen for hours on end (And i do) these spy pods. Committed, legit researchers & interviewers.
My grandfather was Captain Van Poyck, he parachuted into Holland in Operation Market Garden with the 82nd Airborne, i cant imagine what he was thinking, being anxious, brave, full of fear that the day he jumped out of an airplane thinking to himself is this the day i live or die?
He was probably thinking will this be the day the germans kill me on my way down to the ground? Will i get hung up in a tree and get killed by a german bullet? Will i land ok and survive? WOW!! the fear must of been SO overwhelming.im proud to have had him as my Grandfather, and YES they were THE GREATEST GENERATION!! I'm looking for his military record online,ive looked into the 82nd Airborne as well as the 101st, But im almost positive he was with the 82nd.Does anyone have any suggestions where to look besides looking up ww2 Airborne records from the war? They werent really useful, any suggestions would be Greatly appreciated. i dony care,any sort of info 24/7 Ty Tommy
Nice as usual! A question if you don't mind: do you use an AI video generator or is it all "by hand" ? Thanks!
@@PapachongoMr1 this was all edited by hand!
@@PhilipThompson good man.all videos well done. thx
Stalin wanted DDay, but he wanted Berlin. Had Market Garden been completely successful (it certainly wasn't a "failure") the Allies would have got to Berlin long before the Soviets!
Market Garden would still have failed, even if it suceeded (if that makes sense) because even if a bridgehead over the Rhine at Arnhem had been achieved, the US 1st Army to the south would still have got bogged down in the Hurtgen Forest (that campaign started just 2 days into Market Garden) and failed to get beyond Aachen.
British 2nd Army was never envisaged to go into Germany alone. The capture of the Ruhr would have had to be a pincer movement between British 2nd and US 1st Armies. Market Garden was just the first step, and a northern bridgehead. No more. The broad front was already decided on by Eisenhower in August.
Even if Market Garden suceeded, the British 2nd Army could have gone no further and would have had to sit there and wait until the Americans suceeded in the Hurtgen Forest and got beyond Aachen, which they never did for the rest of 1944. British 2nd Army couldn't have driven deep into Germany on their own.
Ok, I see you. I’ll make my tea 🍵 and relax to this new video later on tonight.
Philip Thompson, I’m wondering if you’re going to thrill us with a video on Michal Goleniewski? Thanks.
@@BlackAfrikan I sure will in time!
@ Excellent, indeed 👌🏿
Stalin demanded D Day on France as the Second Front even tough in Italy, by then, the Allies were succesfull knocking out Italy's Mussolini from the war. And Stalin was a very costly mistake made by Roosevelt and Churchill that started the so called "Cold War" when Stalin should've been tried at Nuremberg.
My father was a survivor of the Arnhem campaign. He joined the Paras as an 18 year old in 1944. We immigrated to Australia in 1969. My father and I often attended the annual Arnhem dinner in 🇦🇺 Australia with the British Legion and the British High Commission every year in September. My father introduced me to one of his comrades, who was his Drill Seargent and was with Col Frost, who was captured by the Germans on the Arnhem bridge. He also immigrated to Australia. I attended his funeral. My father passed away in 2003. I did see some some discussion, last year, which tapped into recently uncovered Dutch archives about the intelligence background around operation MG. This work marked the 80th anniversary of MG. I did see Blunt's name was mentioned. I can't recall the evidence, but there was evidence, albeit inferential, that Blunt was possibly involved. I note that Blunt stated publicly, after his spying role became public in 1977, that his activities did not lead to allied caualities. Thank you for this.
Blunt, of course, was a consistent liar!
No doubt, the legacy of the Cambridge spy ring will have to be updated. From what I know, Blunt was a key figure in the whole operation.
The Dutch section of SOE was betrayed very early in the war by someone with a high clearance. Not say ing it was Blunt, but someone like that would have had access to Arnam related intelligence.
Mole, mole, mole….🦡
this was tedious to listen though
Research is by its nature, tedious. It's not Netflix!
@@anthonychase4364you need to brush up on your understanding. Listening is not research. The speaker has a speech pattern that is extremely tedious to listen to, he repeats himself over and over and the way he speaks doesn't "flow" at all. It wouldn't matter what the topic is.
Your pattern needs some help too.
Oh dear!, you need to find something else to do with your time. Your "contribution" is gratuitous and nasty.
👎👎👎 This is a lot of gossiping by laymen. They stumble and do not present clear facts. Both men are hunting click baits. The video hs no value ! 👎👎👎
That's a bit harsh, and condescending. Surely, with the trove of new documentary evidence emerging from British intelligence archives, it's perfectly reasonable for historians to undertake this kind of investigation. What's the issue?