These are my picks for the best value GPUs at each price point: Best GPU under $200 RX 6600: amzn.to/3v5tNja Best GPU around $300 RX 6750XT: amzn.to/4aeTrRz Best GPU around $400 RX 6800 XT amzn.to/3vqbhSS Best GPU around $600 RTX 4070 Super: amzn.to/3xWhEyG or RX 7900 GRE: amzn.to/48XQnsb Best $700 GPU (but not great for RT) RX 7900 XT amzn.to/3S6Iz1Q Best $800 GPU: RTX 4070 Ti Super: amzn.to/3T0Kfuz Past this point is diminishing returns on "value" and next gen could be out soon, so I don't really recommend. But if you want to buy anyway: Best $1000 GPU: RTX 4080 Super amzn.to/497mOoV I want High FPS 4K Ray Tracing, I don't care about price: RTX 4090: amzn.to/3h6VoK2 Disclosure: This video was not sponsored, but I used affiliate links so I may earn money on qualifying purchases through links above at no additional cost to you.
I have a Power Color Fighter 6600 I bought earlier this year and it benchmarked like the 6650XT average out of the box. I think late production 6600s may be using chips originally binned for the 6600XT and 6650XT. When I was mining Eth during the boom, an XFX 5700XT was the only GPU that experienced a fan failure. And it only took about 9 months for it to fail. I mined on a used Sapphire Pulse 5700XT for almost 2 years and it was a better performer than either of the XFX 5700XTs I had. However, when I bought my first 6600 back when still mining, I initially bought a Sapphire Pulse and it performed unacceptably poorly on benchmark tests. Ran worse than a 1660 Super so I sent it back and got the Asus Dual. Using the 6600 without re-BAR doesn't compromise performance anywhere near as much as it does with intel GPUs. The Asus Dual I had performed better than a GTX 1080 FTW2 without re-BAR. With re-BAR, it was a little better than a 5700XT. Beware the GDDR6 (non-X) 4070. It should have been called the 4060Ti 5888 12GB.
5080 will be priced as 4090 now I think or tad bit lower, but it will probably be more power efficient and sligthly faster...5090 price could easily be 2k
I wouldn't be so quick to automatically assume Nvidia is going to jack prices to the moon. The 4090's sales have long since dropped off and it can readily be found at or below MSRP. To think they'll do it since AMD is no competition, AMD is _already_ unable to compete with the 4090. It's not even close to where the 4090 is already a full generation ahead of the XTX compared to the 6950xt. While I wouldn't be surprised to see $2k, I also wouldn't be surprised to see no price increase, especially if the 5080 really does match or exceed the 4090, and people have already proven they won't spend over 1000 for "not the best" GPU. You're always going to have the idiots that will pay anything for "the best", but they're _FAR_ outnumbered by people that want at least a reasonably priced GPU, and the more you gouge them they simply refuse to buy anything.
@@zodwraith5745If greedvidia can increase the price, I bet my house that they will. 1800 MSRP minimum on the 5090, if they plan on throwing the fanboys a bone. Of course, 1800 would be a paper launch.
AMD charges significantly less per square millimeter of chip real estate on their GPUs than on their CPUs, and that's despite you also get half a motherboard's worth of components, VRAM and a cooler.
2nd hand reliable source > 6750XT, 6800 or 6800XT > 7800XT > 4070 Super Everything else is just wasted money for most people. Don't need to waste more than what's going to be replaced by stronger models in just few years.
You'd be surprised what a 6600 will do. So far, I haven't had any issues using it with recent titles at 1440p, though buying an 8GB GPU in late 2024 for 1440p is not ideal. But there's always Lossless Scaling for when I get to the point I need more than 8GB to run a game at 1440p. I recently played the last two regular series of Forza Horizon 4 at 1440p60 on a GTX 670 SC 2GB thanks to Lossless Scaling, using both 2x scaling and 2x frame gen, meaning the internal render was at 720p30. In performance mode, I was just as competitive in online racing as I would be on a far better PC, due to an undetectable increase in latency.
It should be. Companies have gotten too comfortable with raising prices. And if it's not noticeably better to justify the price increase Nvidia better be prepared to sit on them.
@Will-zi6fn The 4090 is still like 1600 dollars new, and the economy is not getting better. We've seen people complaining about the cost of gaming this week with the ps5 pro announcement.
@@KalElinabox 1. The people complaining about the cost of the ps5 pro are a COMPLETELY different demographic from the people who are potentially buying the 5090. 2. The state of the economy is irrelevant cus again only the financially well-off are buying the flagship product, not the people who a struggling economy hits the hardest 3. The economy was in a worse state than when the 4090 released (still suffering from the effects of Covid) but still sold well. 4. U said the 4090 is 1600 new which is its msrp, so it not dropping below msrp like basically every other gpu does isn’t a good point either
I just bought the ASRock 6800 XT, the XFX 6800 is $360 right now on Amazon and is also a really good deal if you aren't interested in the Game Bundle the 7700 XT gets. The Fighter 7700 XT is $350 in places.
I didn't mention the 6800 (non xt) in this video since it was sold out when I made the video. Currently seeing 1 in stock. So looks like it's finally disappearing from stores.
@@danielowentech Yeah they seem to be drying up my Micro Center in Minnesota has 13 of them still but its probably the last of them. I got the 2nd to last 6800 XT as well.
Depends on which country you look at. In germany, only one model of the rx 6800 is available for 380€, and the 6800 XT starts at 520€ at it's lowest price. Therefore I would consider rather buying an RX 7800 XT (470€) which sometimes is even slower than the RX 6800 XT, although this is just rarely the case. If this exceeds your budget, stick to the RX 6800. All great for 1440p, while the RX 6800 starts to struggle with some games on high settings with that resolution.
Just bought a new 4070 ti Super MSI Slim on Amazon. Was also able to snag up an Amazon Resale shipped and sold by Amazon 7800X3D for $320 and it comes tomorrow.
I also just got the 4070 ti Super and it's even better than I was expecting from the benchmarks I've seen. So far I haven't had any problems getting over or around 60 fps on 4k with max (or nearly max) graphics using dlss and frame gen.
@@Dempig well considering most benchmarks and reviews and stuff say that it’s not viable for 4k if you want 60 frames. And I’m just saying that I haven’t had problems playing in 4k with 60 frames. Not saying it’s like super incredibly amazing, just that it’s better than benchmarks and reviews made it seem. Imo at least Also, I said OVER or around 60. Only games like CP77 are closer to 60 frames
@@AG-mm9wn if your referring the 4070 tis then yea go get it if you can 7800xt maybe cheaper but the overall performance the 4070 tis is so much better
I'm pretty sure the 6000 series cards will not get the AI based FSR 4. So I think the RX 7800 XT is a better choice than the RX 6800 XT. Even at the really low price. The RX 6800 XT is really terrible at RT, I'm not saying the RX 7800 XT is great at it, like Nvidia cards, but yes the 7000 series cards are clearly better at it then 6000 series cards.
@@gassug2 Out of stock. It's a cut down version of the same chip as the 6800XT, but AMD isn't producing those any more (everything is from existing stock after the crypto-crash), so when the cut down ones got sold out, that was it.
It is still very relevant. It wasnt mentioned because it was out of stock when he made this video. Some pop up for sale every few days on US Amazon for ~$380
For gaming, AMD makes more sense for anything below a 4070 super. Also, if you go AMD I'd go for RDNA 3 (7000s series) since FSR4 might be coming out soon, will be AI based and will take advantage of the RDNA3 architecture & onwards. If you really want Ray-Tracing and DLSS on a low budget but refuse to choose AMD for whatever reason, Rtx2080 super/3060ti are still solid options.
I don't know why people assume RDNA3 has instructions RDNA2 doesn't. That is not the case. The ROCm backend for TensorFlow and PyTorch work perfectly fine with both RDNA2 and RDNA3.
@@andersjjensen yes all those instructions can be run by simply bypassing the gpu check, been running rocm windows just fine on my 6700 xt with zluda for stable diffusion, modded drivers also enables hyper rx for rdna 2 which is supposed to use ai accelerators exclusive to rdna 3
@@praisetheoak I don't know where you get that from. AMD didn't market it heavily at the time but RDNA2 is also *fully* supports DirectML. Heck, even XeSS runs on RDNA2. I ran Stable Diffusion on my 6700XT perfectly fine before upgrading to an XTX. I don't care if you subscribe to the Nvidia style marketing AMD is copying, but RDNA2 is perfectly "AI capable" whether or not you consider it "dedicated AI accelerators" or not.
Got myself 4070 Super on a slight discount a couple months ago thanks to you, Daniel. Here's hoping it'll hold for a fine couple years. Keep up the good work.
My recommendation for $150 minus is to spend $150 and pick up either an A750 or an A580; they're both pretty close and both pretty good values for that price, so whatever 150 gets you, get that. Drivers are pretty good, performance is fine, draw's a bit high but nobody else is competing in the $150 bracket anymore, their products are dogwater
Ray Tracing is the most worthless thing out there. The biggest thing Nvidia did is convince people that Ray Tracing matters. Everyone should be buying AMD right now.
That and same with 4k gaming, 1440p is more than enough in terms of both looks and fps not being horrible, why would I go out and buy some super expensive 4k monitor just to barelly see a difference from a 200 dollar 2k res one.
@@JorCal-ev8fq sounds like a awsome setup, currently saving up for a new pc build since my current rig is a r5 2600 and a 2060 super, Im thinking about getting either the r5 7600x or the r7 7700x and pair it up with a 7800 xt or a 7900gre
Ngreedia wanted 800 DOLLARS FOR A 4070 TI 12 GB IN 2023. The insane greed is overwelming. I left and got a 7900xtx. I will not support nvidia when it's prices are insane and it's vram is A JOKE. That same card is now 530 dollars. AHAHHA. Nvidia better step up the value or people gonna leave just like I did and EVGA did.
With the new games using the RT natively more and more (Wukong, Outlaws), for mid to high end you should definitely hold off until the new cards come out. And if you're looking at low end, just go used 6000 series card - 6750 xt or 6800 (non-xt), i got my 6800 for 300 bucks a year ago and even now it still feels like a steal, considering local market prices.
I’m sitting OK with my 2080 ti. I got the itch…. BUT I’m waiting. Learned my lesson by not waiting when I got the 2080 ti late, but too early to see that I wasted money when the 3000 series released. I am stacking my chips and WILL buy the 5090, or 5080, PERIOD.
i am getting 7800 xt,i know its probably not a smart move but i dont want to buy a used 6800 xt because somehow in my country a new 6800 xt costs more than 7800 xt xd
Cyberpunk is not the best example to compare the xtx and 4080 rt performance because of the existence of rdna 3 optimisation path tracing mod plus fsr 3 enabler. Black myth wukong and aw2 are less fortunate as modders havent come up with the same mod for those
Will you be doing the same video for cpu ? Or maybe the best cpu gpu combo for 2024? Where I live the 4080 super is 1.2k€ the 7900xtx is 9xx€, I’ll stick to getting the amd one in November, especially since I don’t care about upscaling and ray tracing
The pick between the 4070 Ti Super and the 7900 XT has been really tough for me. In fact, I've ordered both at this point after a friend suggestion, and will need to return one to amazon. I've been waiting to build for around 7 years now from a 7 gen intel with rx 580. So I know any upgrade will be massive. But that was a more mid range build at the time and I really want a higher end build this time to move into 4k gaming. Of course I could wait for the 5xxx series, but I expect their to be a new gen premium for another of months after release anyways. Maybe that's more an amd thing though? Anyways... Ultimately, after watching your video from earlier this year, I think I'm going 4070 Ti Super for sure at $790 vs $690 for the 7900 xt. It pains me to spend more for worse rasterization, but there are just some single player experiences that are not possible with a reasonable fps on the 7900 xt. It also makes it more complicated that AMD is probably continuing to catch up on upscaling and frame gen via software, but I simply I'm ready to game again and I couldn't stomach any disappointment.
I'm ready to upgrade. I'm on a 1080, going to get a 5080 if it indeed drops at $1000usd. It's going to be around $1400cad but that's fine. I'm going to end up using it for over 5 years so all is good there.
the price to performance gets MUCH worse below $200, so if you aren't able to afford it, buy a used office pc for $100-$150 and put your $200 gpu in there, it'll be functional until you can afford a full setup, where you can just move your $200 gpu into the new pc
My 6800xt has been great since I got it last year. It was a major upgrade from my shortage purchase of a 6600xt(only card avialable anywhere near me and way too expensive but it was during the shortage). Ended up selling the 6600xt to a guy upgrading from a gtx 700 series card for $150(again a year ago). So I think he got a decent deal. Also, I run pop!_OS on my gaming PC and AMD tends to work a bit better for my specific niche linux user use case.
Thanks for great upload I like how ray tracing was heavily marketed back in the 20’s series cards and yet two generations later it still kills performance and most likely will continue with 50’s series next year. Quite terrible optimization? How come it’s so hard on GPU?
I am sure I’m not the first to notice this, but the AMD cards sure use a lot of watts to get their performance. In some cases 100+ watts more than their Nvidia counterparts. Seems weird when the two AMD Ryzens in our house use significantly less power for their performance when compared to Intel counterparts.
I got an xtx back in July of last year for $920. I really dont get why AMD is stuck at $900 for it when the 4080 super is $60 more. The $900-$1000 pricing made sense against the 4080 at $1200, now it's just a bad deal.
The RX6600 is definitely the best budget card to buy new. I have a Power Color Fighter 6600 purchased earlier this year in my main rig currently and it benchmarked like a 2070 Super right out of the box. It is an efficient GPU with decent OC headroom. I think these late production RX6600s are using silicon that was originally binned for higher performance SKUs. I used to have an early production Asus Dual 6600 when I was mining Eth during the boom and it didn't perform as well. I also originally bought a Sapphire Pulse 6600 that was so bad, I am convinced the die should have been binned for a 6500XT. It worked, it just performed worse than a 1660 Super. Even without reBAR, the 6600 should at least match the performance of a GTX 1080 and at least match the performance of a 5700XT with re-BAR enabled. Frankly I'm kinda surprised that the RX6600 isn't the most popular GPU on Steam, given the present economy. I guess there are just too many used 3060s out there from the mining boom. I've recently sold a PC with an RX6600 and one with a 3060 12GB. Both had Ryzen 5s. Sold the 6600 build for $630 and the 3060 build for $730. Even still, I am planning to revert to building low cost esports machines because I think those will have a better profit margin and sell faster in this economy. Considering that the Indy game will run on a RX6600 and there aren't any other releases scheduled for the next couple of years I want to play (no, I don't like GTA anymore), I am probably going to be looking at getting a used GPU from the current generation AMD lineup in about 2 years. Most likely a 7900GRE because I expect price/performance to be excellent on the used market and, with VRAM overclocking, should see a substantial boost over stock performance. I don't want a GPU with that fire hazard 12VHPWR connector. I will also be able to use my current PSU with the 7900GRE and the 5800X3D I still haven't gotten yet. Waiting for enough 7800X3Ds to hit the used market for used 5800X3D prices to drop substantially. It is about time to upgrade to an 8 core CPU, not so much for gaming, but for productivity. I am seeing my Ryzen 5 start to struggle in Windows 11 when multitasking (Running 24H2)
Got myself a new pc with rtx 4070 and a ryzen 7 7700, didnt get to test it properly but i tried some games last night and boi does it rip and tear, i don't think ill ever have to update again
@@smghostsmghost2543 this was exactly what i wanted i don't regret my decision, i know AMD gpu variants would've been better but i chose nvidia's cuz i am more familiar with it
I'm looking at 3060 12GB at 300$ vs 4060 ti 16GB at 500$ vs 7800xt at $500. I do video editing on davinci, cuda for AI since my current gtx 980 is slow, gaming at FHD. Wanted a GPU that will fit Alienware graphics amplifier and usb 4 dock. I am mighty impressed with 780m with av1 in obs. Thought AMF was crap on Radeon Pro driver but it's very good. Sadly AMD Radeon record and stream is only available in notebook dGPU with 8GB or more. BTW, I'm from India so prices are quite different than USA.
You think its worth mentioning the recent FSR4 news? If FSR4 is more competitive with upscaling and FG, I think it could be a different story with a lot of cards. Really hoping the new AMD cards up their RT performance, to better compete with Nvidia.
just got an RX6900XT for close to €450, obviously used but in great condition. An awesome card for 1440p and a noticeable upgrade over my rx6700xt. Right now debating if I should get Ryzen7 5700x3d for that GPU or just save up for AM5 and get R7 7800x3d instead. I'm not planning on upgrading this GPU any time soon. I don't know if I made a good choice, was debating getting a 3080ti for the same price, but then I would have to also replace my PSU... Anyway, a used rx6900xt in good condition is a beast for 1440p.
I bought a used rtx 4080 in Poland for 890 USD and new ones cost around 1050 USD. Good deal but I hope the 5080 won't be 50% more efficient because I'll regret it xD
depends on your resolution. used 6700xt on ebay is $230 and can run 1440 med/high. new 6600xt is $250 great for 1080p medium new game/ high old games. new 7700xt is $389 but dips to $350 at times. im waiting till black friday for a $350 7700xt.
I recommend doing what I did, which is buying a cheap used 3090. It cost me 490€ and is about on par witch the 4070super while having twice the vram for future proving.
Hello Owen could you make a video about CPUs? I'm looking to upgrade but I feel lost in the sea of models. I'd appreciate if you could make a video about them.
waiting for price drops. hopefully black friday. right now there is not good value across the board. not just hardware for games as well. seems the new business model is to nickel and dime the consumers for how you can get away with it.
Hey Daniel! Should I buy a new 4070 super or a used 3090 for slightly less. I know that the 3090 will consume more power but it has 24gb vram. Also can I pair them with i5-9600k(saves me money) at 4k resolution without too much bottleneck?
Bought a pc in 2021 with the 3080 10GB. Very loud and hot card. It recently died on me, wanted to get a 4080 Super but couldn’t fit any 4080 in my case due to size restriction and power supply being rated at 750w. Got the MSI 4070 TI Super Ventus 2x and couldn’t be happier, been doing my own research and came to the conclusion that this card was the best bang for the buck that actually would fit and run with no issues in my case. Also no bottlenecking issues with my older 10th gen i9 10900k cpu. When booting up MSFS 2020 and enabling frame generation, I was shocked how much better it performed compared to my old 3080. Smooth at 4K ultra settings. Definitely happy. Ray tracing at 4K is definitely possible at 4K. But have realistic expectations. Don’t be expecting buttery smooth 60fps or above with the latest heavy ray traced and path traced titles such as Alan wake 2 at 4K resolution with all the settings maxed out. But coming from a 3080 which I thought was a beast of a card, the 4070 TI super blew me out of the water.
Ive buy a 7900, and i am Very happy the extra vram for its price comparing with NVidia cards helps a Lot to game at 4k and have no issues with Textures and performance
helps alot to play at 4k? like you are gona make use of those 24gb vram and like you are pretending to play at native 4k, that vram is useless since you are forced to play with upscalers at that resolution. Something that would deff help at 4k is dlss, that in performance mode beats fsr at quality mode at 4k.
From experiences in Cyberpunk 2077's Ray Tracing options, please compare using common sense RT settings instead of full RT settings. RT Reflections adds to the visuals in Cyberpunk 2077, but the rest of the RT options are a "per User" preference. As the optimization guides for Cyberpunk 2077 already suggest, some of those RT settings can improve a scene or make the scene uglier. I got an RX 6900 XT that is WC OC to compete with a 4070ti in rasterization (matching/beating the 7900 GRE), and I get at least 30 FPS with 4K and RT Reflections Only without FSR, 70 FPS with FSR 2.1 balanced. I have the options to play at 1440p with minimal need for upscaling or 4K with acceptable quality for upscaling. The real difference between 1440p and 4K is UI text size, the UI being notably bigger in 1440p. Overall, take RT performance numbers with a grain of salt and review the graphical settings optimization guides for the games you play. I have to update as I finally got back to resetting my Cyberpunk 2077 settings on my RX 6900 XT. A little crow, I got my numbers off. I was around 50 FPS with RT Reflections only and FSR 2.1 Quality 60 to 80 with Balanced. Really, I get around 30 FPS in 4K with RT Reflections. If I turned all the RT settings on, it drops to 13 FPS, so I at least double the RT results by disabling the RT settings that either made the image uglier or gave no visible change. The only RT setting that really added to the visuals was reflections. So if the RX 7900 XTX scaled the same, just disable the superfluous RT settings will at least double its FPS. Of course, this should improve the 4080 Super as well, but it narrows the gap.
RT it's is a joke in Nvidia sponsored games. Cyberpunk even after 4 years still being held by Nvidia leash. FSR 2.1 when 2.2 is available and better. Implement FSR3.0 even tho 3.1 already available. FSR 3.1 where the frame gen is decoupled from upscaler and somehow FSR3.0 upscaler is worse than FSR2.1 which is worse than FSR2.2. FSR3.0 should already have same image quality as FSR2.2. All these are because Nvidia needed to win. They needed the narrative that DLSS is the best while FSR is the worse. And they can't have RTX3000 and below have frame generation so that people will buy 4000 series. I don't get why people are still using Cyberpunk as benchmark even when it blatantly show their heavily Nvidia biased. This is why I don't watch whoever review card comparing upscaler with just one card(RTX). Nvidia was blocking FSR 2xfp16 that were used on AMD card. So on Nvidia, instead of running 2xfp16 per 1xfp32. Nvidia card are running 1xfp16 per 1xfp32. AMD hardware was able to leverage this feature which enable them to have slightly better quality, not DLSS level but still better than Nvidia card using FSR. As usual, each upscale work best on their own GPU Brand just like Intel XMX vs DP4a
@its_me_sam9226 no problem also there is the upscaler. Dlss for nvidia or fsr for amd you can look at youtube videos for comparisons of both gpu's in different areas.
Depends on pricing in your country but currently the 4080 super seems too be a better deal in a lot of places. AMD is more competitive then Nvidia at 600$/€ level and below.
The Intel Arc a770 is $280 USD. Better for the price than ANY 4060/ti and better for the price than ANYTHING not above a 6750xt. Absolutely no reason to skip over the a770.
`rather have the 4060, both are 8gb and the 4060 is a little bit better, better techs, the 7600 is not a good card at that price, the 4060 is literally better at budger than amd offer wich is ironic. but at 300 you have the 6750xt so why even bother.
@@nicane-9966 If both are at the same price, I'd go with the 4060, but in most places the 7600 is way cheaper, and with FSR4 being AI based and coming out soon, I'd wait for the 7600
Just purchased a 4090. The 5080 will just be the 4090 with 20% extra msrp. The 4090 retailed for like £1900 in the UK and it’s currently sitting around 1600 so I thought I’d snap one up
A few questions: - sure we could wait for the 5000 serious, but don’t you think it’s likely they’ll get scalped and marked up for a long time as with the 4000 series - is there any difference between the brands on the same gpu model? Or are they purely aesthetic
The AIBs set how good the cooling solution of the card is, and they can change the frequency of the base clock and overclock. Nothing too significant tho, might as well buy the cheapest
And why would I nuke a whole month's paycheck on a RTX 4090 or 5090 when the Titan RTX (basically a 24GB 4070) can be had on the used market now for $500-$560 and next year for $425-$480 once the RX 8800XT land on shelves?
@@niebuhr6197 Ray-tracing? For sure. But double VRAM for nearly the same price? That's more than compensates in my book. And where did you hear that the Titan RTX is far weaker than the 4070 in raster? Both TechPowerUp and gaming face-off videos show them to be nearly equally with the Titan RTX only needing a 5-7% boost from overclocking to match the 4070 completely in every game.
@@handlemonium "But double VRAM for nearly the same price? That's more than compensates in my book." Considering the fact you won't be using RT, yea it really doesn't. You have 24GB of VRAM that will never be used in gaming (or will even get close to). The only reason I could potentially see it being useful is for AI/Deep learning, but even then, that isn't the card you should have gotten for that, a 3090 makes way more sense. For the price range of $500 - $560 you haven't really done anything as that is the price of a 4070 - 4070 super, furthermore turn FG on the 4070 and the Titan RTX is no longer even close to performing the same. But hey, if your happy with the Titan RTX that is all that matters.
@@aflyingcowboy31 I use my card for processing drone footage into a 3D model via FFMPEG and photogrammetry software like Agisoft Metashape & RealityCapture so yeah RT cores don't matter much to me and the games I play right now don't need RTX/DXR to look good. I say Titan RTX because they're more plentiful on the used market but I actually have a Quadro RTX A5000 from some utterly insane 75% flash deal. Though I do truly believe a fair market value of $450+ on the Titan RTX in 6-8 months is really good. 👍 And the VRAM creep is real. More and more AAA quality games running "High" on UE5 need 10GB+ even at 1080p/1200p, 14GB+ at 1440p/1600p, and 18GB+ at 2160p/2400p.
big headache with rx 6600 or rtx 4060, best price for perfomance is 6600 but the video encoder is much a lot better nvidia, and sometimes amd suck with his encoder haha
idk much about pcs like at all but ive been looking at the 6750xt and does it matter which brand? im on amazon and the powercolor fighter is $300 while the xfx speedster is $310 ik its only a 10$ difference but im trying to save as much as i can
I'm also looking at those too, if it matters to you, the XDX speedster has 3 fans for better cooling. But is a bit bigger in length compared to the Powercolor
I am still confused. The lowest price of 4070 super, 7900 gre, 4070 ti super, 7900 XT on amazon can be £483, £498, £650 and £557 respectively. I intend on 1440p gaming and can wait for prices to drop to what I shared. I can increase my budget for 4070 ti S or 7900 XT for future proofing if its worth it. (Cpu= r5 7500f)
I chose a 4070 Super (AUD$949) over a 7900 XT (AUD$1099) because of better RT and DLSS in single player games. It really hurt to only get 12GB of RAM though. I somewhat regret not just waiting a couple more months to buy a 4070 Ti Super, but then I was actually saving for a next generation card from either AMD or Nvidia and just lost patience.
Dude are smoking crack? 🤣🤣🤣 In what worlds would you need upscaler on 7900xt. The raster alone already faster than 4070super. RT is kinda valid but still, in Nvidia sponsored titles only where u turn on RT to look at a very beautiful picture. where you know, 7900xt are still around 4070 in RT Nvidia games where are n raster it around 4070ti/super
@@ZackSNetwork In Australia, they're generally about 13% difference in price. I went for an upper tier and bought a Gigabyte 4070 Super Gaming OC and spent AUD$1049. I was considering buying a Sapphire Radeon RX 7900 XT Pulse for AUD$1099. I could have saved AUD$100 by going for a cheaper 4070 Super. But alas, the money is spent.
As someone whos just bought their first PC with one part left to buy which is the graphics card i keep hearing to hold off on a higher end card. I was going to buy either a 4070 ti Super or 4080 Is there a possibility that these new cards are too highly priced and then the higher end cards available now then sell out?
These are my picks for the best value GPUs at each price point:
Best GPU under $200
RX 6600: amzn.to/3v5tNja
Best GPU around $300
RX 6750XT: amzn.to/4aeTrRz
Best GPU around $400
RX 6800 XT amzn.to/3vqbhSS
Best GPU around $600
RTX 4070 Super: amzn.to/3xWhEyG
or RX 7900 GRE: amzn.to/48XQnsb
Best $700 GPU (but not great for RT)
RX 7900 XT amzn.to/3S6Iz1Q
Best $800 GPU:
RTX 4070 Ti Super: amzn.to/3T0Kfuz
Past this point is diminishing returns on "value" and next gen could be out soon, so I don't really recommend. But if you want to buy anyway:
Best $1000 GPU:
RTX 4080 Super amzn.to/497mOoV
I want High FPS 4K Ray Tracing, I don't care about price:
RTX 4090: amzn.to/3h6VoK2
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I have a Power Color Fighter 6600 I bought earlier this year and it benchmarked like the 6650XT average out of the box. I think late production 6600s may be using chips originally binned for the 6600XT and 6650XT.
When I was mining Eth during the boom, an XFX 5700XT was the only GPU that experienced a fan failure. And it only took about 9 months for it to fail. I mined on a used Sapphire Pulse 5700XT for almost 2 years and it was a better performer than either of the XFX 5700XTs I had.
However, when I bought my first 6600 back when still mining, I initially bought a Sapphire Pulse and it performed unacceptably poorly on benchmark tests. Ran worse than a 1660 Super so I sent it back and got the Asus Dual.
Using the 6600 without re-BAR doesn't compromise performance anywhere near as much as it does with intel GPUs. The Asus Dual I had performed better than a GTX 1080 FTW2 without re-BAR. With re-BAR, it was a little better than a 5700XT.
Beware the GDDR6 (non-X) 4070. It should have been called the 4060Ti 5888 12GB.
Im saving up $600 for a 5050 2gb.
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😂😂 one of the better comment section jokes .
😂😂 nice
1.5GB card at best.
Believing the 5090 will release at the same price point as the 4090 is the most wishful thinking I've heard in recent months...
I don't believe in anything below $2k.
5080 will be priced as 4090 now I think or tad bit lower, but it will probably be more power efficient and sligthly faster...5090 price could easily be 2k
I wouldn't be so quick to automatically assume Nvidia is going to jack prices to the moon. The 4090's sales have long since dropped off and it can readily be found at or below MSRP. To think they'll do it since AMD is no competition, AMD is _already_ unable to compete with the 4090. It's not even close to where the 4090 is already a full generation ahead of the XTX compared to the 6950xt.
While I wouldn't be surprised to see $2k, I also wouldn't be surprised to see no price increase, especially if the 5080 really does match or exceed the 4090, and people have already proven they won't spend over 1000 for "not the best" GPU. You're always going to have the idiots that will pay anything for "the best", but they're _FAR_ outnumbered by people that want at least a reasonably priced GPU, and the more you gouge them they simply refuse to buy anything.
@@zodwraith5745If greedvidia can increase the price, I bet my house that they will. 1800 MSRP minimum on the 5090, if they plan on throwing the fanboys a bone. Of course, 1800 would be a paper launch.
with win 11 news and concord and the ps5 pro yeah absolutely
GPUs are still way too expensive overall.
AMD charges significantly less per square millimeter of chip real estate on their GPUs than on their CPUs, and that's despite you also get half a motherboard's worth of components, VRAM and a cooler.
That is what happens when you habe almost complete monopoly, with the larger marlet holder dictating the pricing.
2nd hand reliable source > 6750XT, 6800 or 6800XT > 7800XT > 4070 Super
Everything else is just wasted money for most people. Don't need to waste more than what's going to be replaced by stronger models in just few years.
I just upgraded to a RX 7800 XT for like $524 after tax
You'd be surprised what a 6600 will do. So far, I haven't had any issues using it with recent titles at 1440p, though buying an 8GB GPU in late 2024 for 1440p is not ideal.
But there's always Lossless Scaling for when I get to the point I need more than 8GB to run a game at 1440p.
I recently played the last two regular series of Forza Horizon 4 at 1440p60 on a GTX 670 SC 2GB thanks to Lossless Scaling, using both 2x scaling and 2x frame gen, meaning the internal render was at 720p30. In performance mode, I was just as competitive in online racing as I would be on a far better PC, due to an undetectable increase in latency.
The fact that some people belive that 5090/80 will be in same price point as 4090/080 is mind blowing lol
Ikr? If the 5080 really will be 10% faster than a 4090 than it will probably also be 20% more expensive.
It should be. Companies have gotten too comfortable with raising prices. And if it's not noticeably better to justify the price increase Nvidia better be prepared to sit on them.
@@KalElinaboxbro doesn’t understand that people are gonna buy it no matter what, especially the 5090 for the novelty
@Will-zi6fn The 4090 is still like 1600 dollars new, and the economy is not getting better. We've seen people complaining about the cost of gaming this week with the ps5 pro announcement.
@@KalElinabox 1. The people complaining about the cost of the ps5 pro are a COMPLETELY different demographic from the people who are potentially buying the 5090. 2. The state of the economy is irrelevant cus again only the financially well-off are buying the flagship product, not the people who a struggling economy hits the hardest 3. The economy was in a worse state than when the 4090 released (still suffering from the effects of Covid) but still sold well. 4. U said the 4090 is 1600 new which is its msrp, so it not dropping below msrp like basically every other gpu does isn’t a good point either
i snagged a radeon 6800 non xt a while back and i never regretted my purchase. great 1440p performance
I did the same with 6900xt .
Great buy. Enjoy the card. I think keep swapping cards every gen is a pointless waste of money
@@laszlodajka5946yeah and those who that are similar to the iPhone customers every year
I just looked prices here in Australia, a 4090 is $3600, I spat my imaginary coffee all over my screen
you can buy at least 2 x ps5 pro with that ...
But australian dollars
i picked up an 7900xt nitro + for 600 bucks thanks god
I’m on a 6700xt and play at 1440p. Works like a charm
Still a solid card
I just bought the ASRock 6800 XT, the XFX 6800 is $360 right now on Amazon and is also a really good deal if you aren't interested in the Game Bundle the 7700 XT gets. The Fighter 7700 XT is $350 in places.
I didn't mention the 6800 (non xt) in this video since it was sold out when I made the video. Currently seeing 1 in stock. So looks like it's finally disappearing from stores.
@@danielowentech Yeah they seem to be drying up my Micro Center in Minnesota has 13 of them still but its probably the last of them. I got the 2nd to last 6800 XT as well.
Depends on which country you look at. In germany, only one model of the rx 6800 is available for 380€, and the 6800 XT starts at 520€ at it's lowest price.
Therefore I would consider rather buying an RX 7800 XT (470€) which sometimes is even slower than the RX 6800 XT, although this is just rarely the case.
If this exceeds your budget, stick to the RX 6800.
All great for 1440p, while the RX 6800 starts to struggle with some games on high settings with that resolution.
Glad to see you mentioning the 7900 gre
Just bought a new 4070 ti Super MSI Slim on Amazon. Was also able to snag up an Amazon Resale shipped and sold by Amazon 7800X3D for $320 and it comes tomorrow.
I also just got the 4070 ti Super and it's even better than I was expecting from the benchmarks I've seen.
So far I haven't had any problems getting over or around 60 fps on 4k with max (or nearly max) graphics using dlss and frame gen.
@@SgtSpeedy Frame gen to only get 60 fps is not a great experience though
@@Dempig well considering most benchmarks and reviews and stuff say that it’s not viable for 4k if you want 60 frames. And I’m just saying that I haven’t had problems playing in 4k with 60 frames.
Not saying it’s like super incredibly amazing, just that it’s better than benchmarks and reviews made it seem. Imo at least
Also, I said OVER or around 60. Only games like CP77 are closer to 60 frames
@@SgtSpeedythinking about getting this card. Would you recommend that or go for a 7800 xt? Mainly for 1440p
@@AG-mm9wn if your referring the 4070 tis then yea go get it if you can 7800xt maybe cheaper but the overall performance the 4070 tis is so much better
My 2080 and 4070Ti are still chugging right along. Looking forward to seeing what the 50 series entails.
Nothing good. That's for sure.
@@HanSolo__ I'd say you are correct. But we shall see soon. I'm sure they'll be a bump in perf. But at what cost. Cheers.
@@J.Wick.How is he correct if we haven’t seen it yet.
I feel like the gre is only worth it if you’re gonna overclock it, if not and you can’t spend past that, the 7800xt is probably the best choice.
what shall i buy as the cheapest 1440p gpu... not heavily reliant on upscaling.
EDIT : I am ready to buy used
probably a 6700/6750 xt new, or a 2080 ti used
I'm pretty sure the 6000 series cards will not get the AI based FSR 4. So I think the RX 7800 XT is a better choice than the RX 6800 XT. Even at the really low price. The RX 6800 XT is really terrible at RT, I'm not saying the RX 7800 XT is great at it, like Nvidia cards, but yes the 7000 series cards are clearly better at it then 6000 series cards.
I don't think the 7000 series are going to get fsr 4 neither
RIP to the Radeon 6800 non-XT - truly one of the GOAT’s
what happened to it?
@@gassug2 Out of stock. It's a cut down version of the same chip as the 6800XT, but AMD isn't producing those any more (everything is from existing stock after the crypto-crash), so when the cut down ones got sold out, that was it.
It is still very relevant. It wasnt mentioned because it was out of stock when he made this video. Some pop up for sale every few days on US Amazon for ~$380
RX 6800 nonxt is my all time fave! If you consider value/performance its in top tier
For gaming, AMD makes more sense for anything below a 4070 super. Also, if you go AMD I'd go for RDNA 3 (7000s series) since FSR4 might be coming out soon, will be AI based and will take advantage of the RDNA3 architecture & onwards. If you really want Ray-Tracing and DLSS on a low budget but refuse to choose AMD for whatever reason, Rtx2080 super/3060ti are still solid options.
I don't know why people assume RDNA3 has instructions RDNA2 doesn't. That is not the case. The ROCm backend for TensorFlow and PyTorch work perfectly fine with both RDNA2 and RDNA3.
@@andersjjensen yes all those instructions can be run by simply bypassing the gpu check, been running rocm windows just fine on my 6700 xt with zluda for stable diffusion, modded drivers also enables hyper rx for rdna 2 which is supposed to use ai accelerators exclusive to rdna 3
@@andersjjensen RDNA 3 features 2 ai accelerators per compute unit. RDNA 2 lacks any dedicated ai accelerators.
@@yes-gn4kn I believe the average user won't bother with that, but that's cool if it works for you
@@praisetheoak I don't know where you get that from. AMD didn't market it heavily at the time but RDNA2 is also *fully* supports DirectML. Heck, even XeSS runs on RDNA2. I ran Stable Diffusion on my 6700XT perfectly fine before upgrading to an XTX. I don't care if you subscribe to the Nvidia style marketing AMD is copying, but RDNA2 is perfectly "AI capable" whether or not you consider it "dedicated AI accelerators" or not.
Got myself 4070 Super on a slight discount a couple months ago thanks to you, Daniel. Here's hoping it'll hold for a fine couple years. Keep up the good work.
Same
My recommendation for $150 minus is to spend $150 and pick up either an A750 or an A580; they're both pretty close and both pretty good values for that price, so whatever 150 gets you, get that. Drivers are pretty good, performance is fine, draw's a bit high but nobody else is competing in the $150 bracket anymore, their products are dogwater
Ray Tracing is the most worthless thing out there. The biggest thing Nvidia did is convince people that Ray Tracing matters. Everyone should be buying AMD right now.
That and same with 4k gaming, 1440p is more than enough in terms of both looks and fps not being horrible, why would I go out and buy some super expensive 4k monitor just to barelly see a difference from a 200 dollar 2k res one.
I love my 7900 xtx
@@luce3I'm still on an AM4 5800x3d build bc of this and the image quality is nuts on an OLED 1440p dough spectrum monitor
True, upscaled 1440p looks quite similar. Although diablo 4 in 4k works just fine on 3060ti. @@luce3
@@JorCal-ev8fq sounds like a awsome setup, currently saving up for a new pc build since my current rig is a r5 2600 and a 2060 super, Im thinking about getting either the r5 7600x or the r7 7700x and pair it up with a 7800 xt or a 7900gre
Ngreedia wanted 800 DOLLARS FOR A 4070 TI 12 GB IN 2023. The insane greed is overwelming. I left and got a 7900xtx. I will not support nvidia when it's prices are insane and it's vram is A JOKE. That same card is now 530 dollars. AHAHHA. Nvidia better step up the value or people gonna leave just like I did and EVGA did.
Huh?
lol, you ate up
Because of all of the dipshits who bought from scalpers during the 30 series. The corps are watching what people are willing to pay
Got the 7900 xtx too
With the new games using the RT natively more and more (Wukong, Outlaws), for mid to high end you should definitely hold off until the new cards come out. And if you're looking at low end, just go used 6000 series card - 6750 xt or 6800 (non-xt), i got my 6800 for 300 bucks a year ago and even now it still feels like a steal, considering local market prices.
I’m sitting OK with my 2080 ti. I got the itch…. BUT I’m waiting. Learned my lesson by not waiting when I got the 2080 ti late, but too early to see that I wasted money when the 3000 series released. I am stacking my chips and WILL buy the 5090, or 5080, PERIOD.
i am getting 7800 xt,i know its probably not a smart move but i dont want to buy a used 6800 xt because somehow in my country a new 6800 xt costs more than 7800 xt xd
Cyberpunk is not the best example to compare the xtx and 4080 rt performance because of the existence of rdna 3 optimisation path tracing mod plus fsr 3 enabler. Black myth wukong and aw2 are less fortunate as modders havent come up with the same mod for those
Will you be doing the same video for cpu ?
Or maybe the best cpu gpu combo for 2024?
Where I live the 4080 super is 1.2k€ the 7900xtx is 9xx€, I’ll stick to getting the amd one in November, especially since I don’t care about upscaling and ray tracing
The pick between the 4070 Ti Super and the 7900 XT has been really tough for me. In fact, I've ordered both at this point after a friend suggestion, and will need to return one to amazon. I've been waiting to build for around 7 years now from a 7 gen intel with rx 580. So I know any upgrade will be massive. But that was a more mid range build at the time and I really want a higher end build this time to move into 4k gaming. Of course I could wait for the 5xxx series, but I expect their to be a new gen premium for another of months after release anyways. Maybe that's more an amd thing though? Anyways...
Ultimately, after watching your video from earlier this year, I think I'm going 4070 Ti Super for sure at $790 vs $690 for the 7900 xt. It pains me to spend more for worse rasterization, but there are just some single player experiences that are not possible with a reasonable fps on the 7900 xt. It also makes it more complicated that AMD is probably continuing to catch up on upscaling and frame gen via software, but I simply I'm ready to game again and I couldn't stomach any disappointment.
I'm ready to upgrade. I'm on a 1080, going to get a 5080 if it indeed drops at $1000usd. It's going to be around $1400cad but that's fine. I'm going to end up using it for over 5 years so all is good there.
the price to performance gets MUCH worse below $200, so if you aren't able to afford it, buy a used office pc for $100-$150 and put your $200 gpu in there, it'll be functional until you can afford a full setup, where you can just move your $200 gpu into the new pc
they better not give the 5070 12gb Vram again. i am really hoping
i purchased used 3080ti with 1 year warranty left for 450 dollars. in my country 4070 super is 850 dollars
Got a 3060 12gb arriving tomorrow. Best value card if you wanna mess with AI stuff since vram quantity is most important
My 6800xt has been great since I got it last year. It was a major upgrade from my shortage purchase of a 6600xt(only card avialable anywhere near me and way too expensive but it was during the shortage). Ended up selling the 6600xt to a guy upgrading from a gtx 700 series card for $150(again a year ago). So I think he got a decent deal. Also, I run pop!_OS on my gaming PC and AMD tends to work a bit better for my specific niche linux user use case.
Man rx 6600 is the budget champ for 1080p.
Thanks for great upload I like how ray tracing was heavily marketed back in the 20’s series cards and yet two generations later it still kills performance and most likely will continue with 50’s series next year. Quite terrible optimization? How come it’s so hard on GPU?
I am sure I’m not the first to notice this, but the AMD cards sure use a lot of watts to get their performance. In some cases 100+ watts more than their Nvidia counterparts. Seems weird when the two AMD Ryzens in our house use significantly less power for their performance when compared to Intel counterparts.
I got an xtx back in July of last year for $920. I really dont get why AMD is stuck at $900 for it when the 4080 super is $60 more. The $900-$1000 pricing made sense against the 4080 at $1200, now it's just a bad deal.
the same reason the 5800x3d is expensive or unavailable, but building a 5700x3d 7900xt pc is reasonably affordable.
@@cheshirefoxxx The 5800x3D may be worse in all fairness lol, it went up in price
Subscribed! Awesome channel my guy.
I just grabbed a 4070 ti super for $600, I think that'll set me for a while since I never touch 4k
The RX6600 is definitely the best budget card to buy new. I have a Power Color Fighter 6600 purchased earlier this year in my main rig currently and it benchmarked like a 2070 Super right out of the box. It is an efficient GPU with decent OC headroom. I think these late production RX6600s are using silicon that was originally binned for higher performance SKUs.
I used to have an early production Asus Dual 6600 when I was mining Eth during the boom and it didn't perform as well. I also originally bought a Sapphire Pulse 6600 that was so bad, I am convinced the die should have been binned for a 6500XT. It worked, it just performed worse than a 1660 Super. Even without reBAR, the 6600 should at least match the performance of a GTX 1080 and at least match the performance of a 5700XT with re-BAR enabled.
Frankly I'm kinda surprised that the RX6600 isn't the most popular GPU on Steam, given the present economy. I guess there are just too many used 3060s out there from the mining boom.
I've recently sold a PC with an RX6600 and one with a 3060 12GB. Both had Ryzen 5s. Sold the 6600 build for $630 and the 3060 build for $730.
Even still, I am planning to revert to building low cost esports machines because I think those will have a better profit margin and sell faster in this economy.
Considering that the Indy game will run on a RX6600 and there aren't any other releases scheduled for the next couple of years I want to play (no, I don't like GTA anymore), I am probably going to be looking at getting a used GPU from the current generation AMD lineup in about 2 years. Most likely a 7900GRE because I expect price/performance to be excellent on the used market and, with VRAM overclocking, should see a substantial boost over stock performance.
I don't want a GPU with that fire hazard 12VHPWR connector. I will also be able to use my current PSU with the 7900GRE and the 5800X3D I still haven't gotten yet. Waiting for enough 7800X3Ds to hit the used market for used 5800X3D prices to drop substantially. It is about time to upgrade to an 8 core CPU, not so much for gaming, but for productivity. I am seeing my Ryzen 5 start to struggle in Windows 11 when multitasking (Running 24H2)
Got myself a new pc with rtx 4070 and a ryzen 7 7700, didnt get to test it properly but i tried some games last night and boi does it rip and tear, i don't think ill ever have to update again
Should have bought 7800xt , 7900gre or 4070 super. 4070 isnt worth it
@@smghostsmghost2543 this was exactly what i wanted i don't regret my decision, i know AMD gpu variants would've been better but i chose nvidia's cuz i am more familiar with it
I literally picked the worst time to want a new graphics card 😂😂
I feel you! I’m thinking a 4070 Ti and then see what the 500 series brings out.
My 3080 just died on me and I could not think of a worse time to need a new card hahaha
Sigh couldn't it have died closer to black Friday...
As opposed to figuratively the worst time?
I'm not a gamer, but if I was, I can't believe paying these insane prices for a gpu!
i'm holding way back lol was running a msi gtx 770 oc that died so bagged a temp gtx 760 and now just bagged a zotac gtx 1080ti :)
I'm looking at 3060 12GB at 300$ vs 4060 ti 16GB at 500$ vs 7800xt at $500. I do video editing on davinci, cuda for AI since my current gtx 980 is slow, gaming at FHD. Wanted a GPU that will fit Alienware graphics amplifier and usb 4 dock.
I am mighty impressed with 780m with av1 in obs. Thought AMF was crap on Radeon Pro driver but it's very good. Sadly AMD Radeon record and stream is only available in notebook dGPU with 8GB or more. BTW, I'm from India so prices are quite different than USA.
You think its worth mentioning the recent FSR4 news? If FSR4 is more competitive with upscaling and FG, I think it could be a different story with a lot of cards. Really hoping the new AMD cards up their RT performance, to better compete with Nvidia.
Debating between the 7800 xt and 7900 gre, only because of the power draw. Aside from that id pick gre. But how about 7900 gre vs xt?
just got an RX6900XT for close to €450, obviously used but in great condition. An awesome card for 1440p and a noticeable upgrade over my rx6700xt.
Right now debating if I should get Ryzen7 5700x3d for that GPU or just save up for AM5 and get R7 7800x3d instead. I'm not planning on upgrading this GPU any time soon. I don't know if I made a good choice, was debating getting a 3080ti for the same price, but then I would have to also replace my PSU...
Anyway, a used rx6900xt in good condition is a beast for 1440p.
I bought a used rtx 4080 in Poland for 890 USD and new ones cost around 1050 USD. Good deal but I hope the 5080 won't be 50% more efficient because I'll regret it xD
wait till rdna 4 for a gpu under 250 - 300 or buy now? Also when is it speculated to come out
depends on your resolution. used 6700xt on ebay is $230 and can run 1440 med/high. new 6600xt is $250 great for 1080p medium new game/ high old games. new 7700xt is $389 but dips to $350 at times. im waiting till black friday for a $350 7700xt.
I recommend doing what I did, which is buying a cheap used 3090. It cost me 490€ and is about on par witch the 4070super while having twice the vram for future proving.
Hello Owen could you make a video about CPUs? I'm looking to upgrade but I feel lost in the sea of models. I'd appreciate if you could make a video about them.
if you jump up to the 4080/4090 or wait for the 50 series, power consumption will also be a consideration i.e. may need a PSU upgrade too.
Should i buy a 4070 or wait for 5070 i think that 12gb ram is not enoutght and i can wait so sjould i wait?
i have the same question , i intended to buy 4070s , but i dont know should i wait for 50xx series
@alkr626 i think that wait to next year is best. Even if the 50 series is bad the 40 series probably have a price drop
Now I'd like to know how big would the PSU need to be for the 50 series...
waiting for price drops. hopefully black friday. right now there is not good value across the board. not just hardware for games as well. seems the new business model is to nickel and dime the consumers for how you can get away with it.
So is the 4070 Super is a good choice if I only play in 1080p with ultra settings?
Hey Daniel! Should I buy a new 4070 super or a used 3090 for slightly less. I know that the 3090 will consume more power but it has 24gb vram. Also can I pair them with i5-9600k(saves me money) at 4k resolution without too much bottleneck?
which is good help
sapphire7600, sapphire 6650 or rtx4060?
how do you not mention the 7800xt once? it's better than the 6800xt and about the same price.
Bought a pc in 2021 with the 3080 10GB. Very loud and hot card. It recently died on me, wanted to get a 4080 Super but couldn’t fit any 4080 in my case due to size restriction and power supply being rated at 750w.
Got the MSI 4070 TI Super Ventus 2x and couldn’t be happier, been doing my own research and came to the conclusion that this card was the best bang for the buck that actually would fit and run with no issues in my case. Also no bottlenecking issues with my older 10th gen i9 10900k cpu.
When booting up MSFS 2020 and enabling frame generation, I was shocked how much better it performed compared to my old 3080. Smooth at 4K ultra settings. Definitely happy.
Ray tracing at 4K is definitely possible at 4K. But have realistic expectations. Don’t be expecting buttery smooth 60fps or above with the latest heavy ray traced and path traced titles such as Alan wake 2 at 4K resolution with all the settings maxed out.
But coming from a 3080 which I thought was a beast of a card, the 4070 TI super blew me out of the water.
I live off-grid and I'm a gamer... only 4060 counts on power consumption today.
11:03 does this mean dont use any upscaling when only in 1080p? thanks.
Man, guess the 3060 is just too damn old now, eh?
I doubt 5080 for 1000$ will perform better than the 4090, It will be more expensive or it will perform close to the 4090 or 5% lower
what site Daniel using for comparing prices?
Picked up an rx 6750xt for $299 from Amazon. Replacing my gtx 1080. Should be able to sell the gtx 1080 for about 120-130.00
Ive buy a 7900, and i am Very happy the extra vram for its price comparing with NVidia cards helps a Lot to game at 4k and have no issues with Textures and performance
helps alot to play at 4k? like you are gona make use of those 24gb vram and like you are pretending to play at native 4k, that vram is useless since you are forced to play with upscalers at that resolution. Something that would deff help at 4k is dlss, that in performance mode beats fsr at quality mode at 4k.
@@bindxpoxt i forgot to mention it, it's a GRE
@@NYX1406 4070 ti super, same vram, pretty much same price, better on every aspect
@@bindxpoxt and fsr at 4k its really good, i almost cant notice the diference between the native and upscaled fsr image.
@@NYX1406hahahaha you are a joke everyone knows fsr is a joke like you
Do you think that when choosing between the 6800xt and the 7800xt, the upcoming fsr4 is relevant?
Definitely you should go for 7800xt. it has AI acceleration cores which could make them useful for fsr4
7900 XT for 550$ or a 4070 Super for 500$??? Wanna do RT/PT
i lovee the 6800xt
From experiences in Cyberpunk 2077's Ray Tracing options, please compare using common sense RT settings instead of full RT settings. RT Reflections adds to the visuals in Cyberpunk 2077, but the rest of the RT options are a "per User" preference. As the optimization guides for Cyberpunk 2077 already suggest, some of those RT settings can improve a scene or make the scene uglier. I got an RX 6900 XT that is WC OC to compete with a 4070ti in rasterization (matching/beating the 7900 GRE), and I get at least 30 FPS with 4K and RT Reflections Only without FSR, 70 FPS with FSR 2.1 balanced. I have the options to play at 1440p with minimal need for upscaling or 4K with acceptable quality for upscaling. The real difference between 1440p and 4K is UI text size, the UI being notably bigger in 1440p.
Overall, take RT performance numbers with a grain of salt and review the graphical settings optimization guides for the games you play.
I have to update as I finally got back to resetting my Cyberpunk 2077 settings on my RX 6900 XT. A little crow, I got my numbers off. I was around 50 FPS with RT Reflections only and FSR 2.1 Quality 60 to 80 with Balanced. Really, I get around 30 FPS in 4K with RT Reflections. If I turned all the RT settings on, it drops to 13 FPS, so I at least double the RT results by disabling the RT settings that either made the image uglier or gave no visible change. The only RT setting that really added to the visuals was reflections. So if the RX 7900 XTX scaled the same, just disable the superfluous RT settings will at least double its FPS. Of course, this should improve the 4080 Super as well, but it narrows the gap.
RT it's is a joke in Nvidia sponsored games. Cyberpunk even after 4 years still being held by Nvidia leash. FSR 2.1 when 2.2 is available and better. Implement FSR3.0 even tho 3.1 already available. FSR 3.1 where the frame gen is decoupled from upscaler and somehow FSR3.0 upscaler is worse than FSR2.1 which is worse than FSR2.2. FSR3.0 should already have same image quality as FSR2.2.
All these are because Nvidia needed to win. They needed the narrative that DLSS is the best while FSR is the worse. And they can't have RTX3000 and below have frame generation so that people will buy 4000 series. I don't get why people are still using Cyberpunk as benchmark even when it blatantly show their heavily Nvidia biased. This is why I don't watch whoever review card comparing upscaler with just one card(RTX). Nvidia was blocking FSR 2xfp16 that were used on AMD card. So on Nvidia, instead of running 2xfp16 per 1xfp32. Nvidia card are running 1xfp16 per 1xfp32. AMD hardware was able to leverage this feature which enable them to have slightly better quality, not DLSS level but still better than Nvidia card using FSR. As usual, each upscale work best on their own GPU Brand just like Intel XMX vs DP4a
Still waiting for navi44 next year 😊
What is the better card to go for if you can get both for the same price, the rx7900 xtx or the rtx4080 super? I need assistance
If you want raytracing the 4080 super but if you dont want to do raytracing the 7900xtx to make it very simple.
@@MrAnimescrazy thank you
@its_me_sam9226 no problem also there is the upscaler. Dlss for nvidia or fsr for amd you can look at youtube videos for comparisons of both gpu's in different areas.
@@MrAnimescrazy both GPU with their respective upscaler. Using FSR on Nvidia are just pure shit.
Depends on pricing in your country but currently the 4080 super seems too be a better deal in a lot of places. AMD is more competitive then Nvidia at 600$/€ level and below.
I have a 4070ti so I don’t think upgrading would be worth it
He been saying dont get a 4090 for the past 3 months with no guarantee of release or price of the 50 series.
To expect 5080 for a grand is pikachu face optimism
The Intel Arc a770 is $280 USD. Better for the price than ANY 4060/ti and better for the price than ANYTHING not above a 6750xt. Absolutely no reason to skip over the a770.
Why not recommend a few of the 3000 series cards? Isn't the 3080 a lot better value than the 4070?
RX 7600 8GB FOR 1080P BEST
`rather have the 4060, both are 8gb and the 4060 is a little bit better, better techs, the 7600 is not a good card at that price, the 4060 is literally better at budger than amd offer wich is ironic. but at 300 you have the 6750xt so why even bother.
@@nicane-9966 If both are at the same price, I'd go with the 4060, but in most places the 7600 is way cheaper, and with FSR4 being AI based and coming out soon, I'd wait for the 7600
Just purchased a 4090. The 5080 will just be the 4090 with 20% extra msrp. The 4090 retailed for like £1900 in the UK and it’s currently sitting around 1600 so I thought I’d snap one up
The 5080 will be £1700 minimum
The 4080 launched at like 1250-1400
yeah I just upgraded to a 4080 super and have zero regrets for whatever is to come in the 50 series cards
Bought my kid a 7800xt 650cdn (usually 699) didnt evne. Other looking at the 4070 super or ti super as it was 100-200 more
A few questions:
- sure we could wait for the 5000 serious, but don’t you think it’s likely they’ll get scalped and marked up for a long time as with the 4000 series
- is there any difference between the brands on the same gpu model? Or are they purely aesthetic
The AIBs set how good the cooling solution of the card is, and they can change the frequency of the base clock and overclock.
Nothing too significant tho, might as well buy the cheapest
@@firstnamelastname366ok thanks
And why would I nuke a whole month's paycheck on a RTX 4090 or 5090 when the Titan RTX (basically a 24GB 4070) can be had on the used market now for $500-$560 and next year for $425-$480 once the RX 8800XT land on shelves?
Because 4070 is noticeably faster than Titan Rtx at raster and particularly ray tracing
@@niebuhr6197 Ray-tracing? For sure. But double VRAM for nearly the same price? That's more than compensates in my book.
And where did you hear that the Titan RTX is far weaker than the 4070 in raster?
Both TechPowerUp and gaming face-off videos show them to be nearly equally with the Titan RTX only needing a 5-7% boost from overclocking to match the 4070 completely in every game.
Titan RTX is old its Turing architecture. It’s slower than a RTX 3070ti and pulls more power.
@@handlemonium "But double VRAM for nearly the same price? That's more than compensates in my book."
Considering the fact you won't be using RT, yea it really doesn't. You have 24GB of VRAM that will never be used in gaming (or will even get close to). The only reason I could potentially see it being useful is for AI/Deep learning, but even then, that isn't the card you should have gotten for that, a 3090 makes way more sense.
For the price range of $500 - $560 you haven't really done anything as that is the price of a 4070 - 4070 super, furthermore turn FG on the 4070 and the Titan RTX is no longer even close to performing the same.
But hey, if your happy with the Titan RTX that is all that matters.
@@aflyingcowboy31 I use my card for processing drone footage into a 3D model via FFMPEG and photogrammetry software like Agisoft Metashape & RealityCapture so yeah RT cores don't matter much to me and the games I play right now don't need RTX/DXR to look good.
I say Titan RTX because they're more plentiful on the used market but I actually have a Quadro RTX A5000 from some utterly insane 75% flash deal. Though I do truly believe a fair market value of $450+ on the Titan RTX in 6-8 months is really good. 👍
And the VRAM creep is real. More and more AAA quality games running "High" on UE5 need 10GB+ even at 1080p/1200p, 14GB+ at 1440p/1600p, and 18GB+ at 2160p/2400p.
Thank you sir
big headache with rx 6600 or rtx 4060, best price for perfomance is 6600 but the video encoder is much a lot better nvidia, and sometimes amd suck with his encoder haha
Just bought GTX 1060 6 GB for 65 usd for my friend. He have GT 1030 2 GB.
The price nowaday is stupid, back in the days I bought my 1070 at $380... What a joke
I bet the 5080 will be 1500 and the 5090 will be 2200...
I'd say buy something now if you have the money. Why wait when you could be gaming on a PC now?
The 7900XTX @ $900 is a ripoff when compared to the 4080. 😄
I agree
idk much about pcs like at all but ive been looking at the 6750xt and does it matter which brand? im on amazon and the powercolor fighter is $300 while the xfx speedster is $310 ik its only a 10$ difference but im trying to save as much as i can
I'm also looking at those too, if it matters to you, the XDX speedster has 3 fans for better cooling. But is a bit bigger in length compared to the Powercolor
If you're going with the XFX make sure it can fit the case and is compatible with your motherboard
I am still confused. The lowest price of 4070 super, 7900 gre, 4070 ti super, 7900 XT on amazon can be £483, £498, £650 and £557 respectively. I intend on 1440p gaming and can wait for prices to drop to what I shared. I can increase my budget for 4070 ti S or 7900 XT for future proofing if its worth it. (Cpu= r5 7500f)
Hi for solid 1080p gpu for a new build, what do u suggest? thank u
lol
I’m upgrading my 4060 8gb and need help looking at either 4070 super 12gb or 7900 gre any suggestions??
Also for the 7900 gre dual fan or triple
Could you instead focus on a setup with graphics that is no better than the PS5 but has superior frame-rate.
I chose a 4070 Super (AUD$949) over a 7900 XT (AUD$1099) because of better RT and DLSS in single player games. It really hurt to only get 12GB of RAM though. I somewhat regret not just waiting a couple more months to buy a 4070 Ti Super, but then I was actually saving for a next generation card from either AMD or Nvidia and just lost patience.
Dude are smoking crack? 🤣🤣🤣 In what worlds would you need upscaler on 7900xt. The raster alone already faster than 4070super. RT is kinda valid but still, in Nvidia sponsored titles only where u turn on RT to look at a very beautiful picture. where you know, 7900xt are still around 4070 in RT Nvidia games where are n raster it around 4070ti/super
They aren’t in the same price range.
@@ZackSNetwork In Australia, they're generally about 13% difference in price. I went for an upper tier and bought a Gigabyte 4070 Super Gaming OC and spent AUD$1049. I was considering buying a Sapphire Radeon RX 7900 XT Pulse for AUD$1099. I could have saved AUD$100 by going for a cheaper 4070 Super. But alas, the money is spent.
As someone whos just bought their first PC with one part left to buy which is the graphics card i keep hearing to hold off on a higher end card. I was going to buy either a 4070 ti Super or 4080
Is there a possibility that these new cards are too highly priced and then the higher end cards available now then sell out?
4070 ti super DDR6x