@@SinCity-we5kn horizons always outdamages shadowflame as long as you can proc the passive. hell ive had games where ive had it outdamage my ludens/liandry
@@SinCity-we5kn Yuupp, it's expensive but if you don't have anti-shield or anti-heal you aren't doing much. Also he went ap instead of going ad bruiser which probably would have been easier to CS with and when the jungler ganks you're not a useless sack of **** either. Get anti-shield to stop the shield spam which is actually a viable item on shaco and you're golden.
@@SinCity-we5kn It's mathematically correct though, Boxes lasts longer depending on AP and more AH means more boxes. This build maximizes the duration of the box while having the most CDR possible without sacrificing damage. It was simply countered this game.
ya I do find it ironic as well that pinkward plays a champion that incentivizes the enemy to not interact with him and then gets mad when that happens. In fact I think it's kind of disgusting that Shaco can even waveclear like he can.
I like how trick doing what he's always done is now a hulbreaker issue, considering trick ignored pinkward and took his turrets before he even had it. Hullbreaker IS bs but trick splitting is nothing new.
like, especially this game. Mans t2 was down before hullbreaker was bought. pw overstayed and backed in a vulnerable spot, then died again getting surprised by qiyana again because he couldnt bother atleast warding if hes gonna stay under tower with 200 hp for a solid 2 min. Ensuring you can win your toplane or contribute to winning the game isnt the job of his team. I
Because he went shaco top, trick could have also gone nasus and nothing would have changed, issue here isn't even the hullbreaker but how stupidly statcheck-y top lane is due to people expecting top to play 1v2 or even 1v3 the whole game.
@@pendotxl822 As soon as I saw him backing in the open after that gank I thought I was watching a bronze game. Bro I swear if you were on my pro team and I saw you doing that shit, I'm kicking you off the team. That's not even just a noob mistake that's something that is EASILY preventable and costs games.
He always act like he is the only guy with a brain out there. And always blame the "brainless" strategies, but, in reality, trick just didn't fell for shaco's tricks, AND got T2 even before hull was bought. Top abyss.
The fact that he thinks playing the baby champ that has infinite invis and flash, and can leave cc bombs everywhere, takes skill, is even more disgusting.
Hullbreaker is actually not good for the game. They removed Sanguine Blade back in 2020 because they said it was bad for the game and replaced it with an equally bad item for the game. Thx riot
@@Decay611 Depends on how you look at it and the game that it's in. Hullbreaker is about generating value. The reality of this game was that trick is always going to be ahead and he knows he is because Pink ward continues to take AP shaco top when its not good against characters with built in sustain or damage mitigation. Now, we dont know who picked first but honestly shame on him if he continued to pick shaco into a udyr. I dont know how many time these bruiser hyper sustain champions have to completely thrash him before he understands that its probably not a good idea to take this champion into them. Besides the point though, hullbreaker is only good when you're ahead or have enough pressure around the map to take advantage of it. Yes, you can afk split into the next game rushing the item while being 0/7 if you want to, but the reality of it is, the bonus 500-600 gold of stats (and thats generous) that you get from building the item still wont help you in a 1v1 against the enemy top laner. So against better players who are going to abuse those openings, which will just flat out kill you on repeat should they have the capability to, you're going to be forced to group, literally making the item just a 3k gold sink. TL;DR: Hullbreaker isn't an unhealthy item, it just promotes an unhealthy playstyle that people will follow regardless of their understanding of the item.
Pinkward was crying since 8 22 ingame 8:53. THEN, 18:41 he starts crying about his TEAM "fking garbage because they aren't doing anything on the map". MEANWHILE, they have BOTH dragons and Vayne got their only 2 towers. He lost lane while receiving help and Trick got none since min 1. If not for his 0/4 at this point and solo losing 2 towers top his team would be ahead.
what are you talkin bout, pw only got 1 gank very early and that also failed, and then got successfully ganked twice by qiyana, one tower dive and trick kept on gettin fed and shoving and took tower, did u have ur eyes closed early? "tRicK gOt nOnE siNcE miN 1" lmao trick only got help while even after being so shoved in, no ganks came for pw
@@b0sspls622 Yeah almost like PW picked shaco into his worst lane vs a counter. Hilarious how fanboys of each side are so delusional. 12 min in and there has been 1 gank for each side only. 2 deaths though for PW cause of his terrible solo kill attempt. How long is "early" game in your eyes? When 2nd tower is literally gone? PW played like utter garbage this game and pretty much solo lost. LOL just saw his 2nd solo kill attempt at this point he is literally just feeding. Look at him in EVERY team fight just walking around doing actually no damage. ahhahahahahahaha and you are saying he didn't solo lose the game?
@@b0sspls622 The first gank wasn't even successful tbh. Pink was just a moron who TPed back to base in the literal open like the enemy jungler didn't see that.
Interesting. PW usually triggers his opponents while Trick's default mode is triggered. I would've thought this would have turned out the exact opposite of how it actually did but I guess Trick's gates mentality is the best counter to PW's
@@ClockworkGearhead The correct choice, of course. But tbf, Trick's not exactly known for always going the wise course of action (whether for content or otherwise) :D
Picking shaco into that matchup is just a lose. You cant one trick a champ and expect the game to go well every time. His team was doing fine, but when you get run over and lose ur tier 2 at 12 minutes and go 0/4, that is just a matchup/champ diff, not a team diff. Like, Shaco is not even considered a strong top laner
-does a recall in the middle of the lane -gets counterganked and dies -said enemy jungler is a snowball assassin -blames team yeah typical Shaco main lmao
Trampled is the wrong word. Trick simply marched forward, didn't dive in blind, and walked straight to the turret. He turned his brain off and gave PinkWard zero ways to get in his head.
@@ponytail-cg8kj I'm not sure how you're interpreting this as disagreement. PW's playstyle requires baiting and getting the enemy to interact and Trick just didn't.
@@ClockworkGearheadtrick 100% did, it's just shaco can't compete with udyr, the circle zone counters shaco boxes and ult, but shaco isn't meant to beat udyr, he needed help, and yet no support jungle help the whole game except the beginning
@@ClockworkGearhead Yes, that's why Udyr turned out to be better. Pink Ward acted according to a proven scheme that worked for everyone, but from the very beginning it is clear that TRICK2G simply does not lead to tricks Shako, acts carefully and just breaks the tower, he does not even try to kill Shako because he understands that he will not succeed
@@edoardobuffa4674im pretty sure he meant shaco in the position top , not the top role itself , still up for debate for each role importance and I’m not here to debate that topic , tbh it’s pretty even all around it’s just that each roles has a different feel and certain games have certain roles be increased in importance or decreased
@@haydenhenderson19 true, everyone knows in pro-play adc is stronger than in soloq due to team coordination (the role is completely team reliant), so if at worlds Top was the strongest, it means adc as a role is REALLY bad.
I faced a Shaco top ONE time and I've been top laning since like forever. He owned me so bad haha. I'm so supportive of any shaco top losing this hard. Well done, Trick. Well done.
@@ogaimon3380 Did you ever go up against the Ivern players? Same with Shaco, my first time against Ivern was the most embarassing beatdown of my top lane career. I mean, he went like 5-0 in lane, had rylais and Demonics or something while I was on 1 item, it was super sadge -_-
@@claireevich7575i only played against ivern top once in my promos to master a handful of years ago, i was darius and i didn't have ghost. I spent the entire game trying to farm😂.
Best way to play into a lane shaco? Ignore him. Be tanky and have enough sustain to just ignore everything he does. Udyr can do this exceptionally well and T2G shows it here. Also, hullbreaker is dumb and an unfun item for bruiser top lane champs that just split push.
Not actually useful information if he's actually ad shaco and he's stabbing you in the back 24/7. As a top shaco main (who never plays ap shaco btw) I also build bruiser so the moment I hit level 6 you're just going to be fighting 2 of me. I even beat a kayle top and she literally made zero mistakes. It was pretty close but smart plays let me come out ahead on kills and our CS was even. If I were playing AP shaco in that instance I would have been useless af since I wouldn't be able to apply any pressure whatsoever just like this dude. This is how you get ignored and they just take your towers. AP shaco doesn't scale well and has a horrid early game. AD shaco can take advantage of his Qs as well as his backstab passive with a box here or two to zone during engagements. Not saying that AP shaco top can't do stuff, it's just that in the current meta I do not know or understand why you would want to play AP shaco into these bruisers or worse, ranged carries going top.
@@Delimon007 The reason for AP shaco is the wave clear. AD shaco has horrid wave clear. By going AP shaco, Udyr can ignore him and then it becomes a battle of wave clear. If Pinkward went AD shaco, he wouldn't have any wave clear. Again the sustain and wave clear Udyr has will still allow him to ignore AD shaco damage and out push him. AD Shaco would have fared much worse without a lot of jungle or mid help. Shaco top just isn't good into characters like Udyr who have massive sustain, tankiness, and great wave clear be it AP shaco or AD shaco.
notice the amount of "i" in this guy's comment. you dont win a fight against udyr as AD fucking shaco in any world buddy, it doesnt matter how much hp, damage or attack speed you have on those knives. you're not outbursting/outdamaging/outsustaining a champion that has everything you build on their kit@@Delimon007
Watching this thinking the whole time "How is he going to turn this around? Must be some cool counterplay coming!" Sometimes a loss is just a loss the whole way through.
To be fair it's not that hard, Shaco is useless unless people play exactly to his hand. I simply ignored the jungler Shaco and he eventually got careless cause he thought I wouldn't attack. Turned around and slapped him 3 times is all it took with his laughably low hp pool.
Thats exactly what i do against shaco or singed top. They want you to chase them, just dont chase them no matter what. I pick sion and just scale/split. If singed proxy, i counter proxy, and since my sustain is stronger i can proxy for longer.
I mean, it's kinda hard to out proxy the king of proxying lol! Probably the only better option might be trynda if he rushes a hydra because you're not going to be chasing him, he's going to be chasing you instead 😂
I actually like pink ward but it’s really hard to feel bad for him at all… he’s complaining about the lack of skill required out of his enemies in order to beat him, and yet he’s the one who chooses to play the champ that actively avoids trying to interact with people at all, in fucking top lane of all places. His strategy is infinitely more skill expressive, and yet it’s so much more cheesy and worthless than an actual toplaner most of the time, and it’s not his teams fault for not wanting to play around that.
Just goes to show consistency > flashy plays. A gold Lee sin flash insects ward dashes into e. A challenger Lee sin presses q and then q auto to deal the max damage possible in the easiest way possible in the fastest way possible and the most consistent way possible.
thats right guys listen to "high ranked" players talk out there ass when they say "dont blame your team, get better" etc...but somehow when its them "its my team" "its my champ" league is not skill based it is champ select and rng based
It was funny watching Pink and all his team running after Trick 😂 I mean come on, that's what Trick always do, no one can catch him , he will make you run the whole map 😂😂😂😂
14 years old vet on breaching the gate vs like to outplay people Shaco main Trick mindset is really simple : winning? breach the gate. losing? still breach the gate. That's just how moba work guys... Destroy building = win the game You can outplay enemy on maros/skills. but you can't outplay their enemy team main target: buildings .. Kek And ofc for 1 last opinion : don't ever get caught from mid game and so on when enemy team have a breacher.
He did this when it was the item to disable towers, he did it when it was called sanguine blade, he did does this now that's called Hull breaker and will do it in the future whatever the item change, removal or addition may be.
Trick can shit on him with multiple different champs while he tries to lay boxes down and clown around every game I do like pink ward but you can't mess with the dawg
HOW HAS PINKWARD NOT LOST ANY WEIGHT SINCE 2014?!?! It's been ten years my guy.... start taking care of yourself. wtf... it's not a good look for him to appear as if he's not going to make it to see his 50th birthday.
15:24 stupid comments like this are why we lost zz'rot. because people like you don't understand how interactive and strategic splitpushing is, and are just mad that they can't counter it by being fed.
I love how pink basically troll picked Shaco of all champions to play top lane and after he had 0 wave clear or lane priority and got rolled started complaining about the team being bad when Vayne and Jarvan were cleaning house.
oh sweet summer child... you probably havent even heard stories of innervating locket Udyr endless health. endless mana. endless transformations. endless enjoyment. then throw an aggressive support champ on him like zyra, brand or orianna.
Literally any champ can beat shaco top, as long as you don't run at him like a bot you'll always have a lead and sometimes like pink ward showed shacos gets tilted and try to make a play and die. As soon as people knew about pink ward and his tactics it just became the most useless playstyle ever
A-Z jg by nightblu3 has been incredible, and I'd love if you did it too and did a tier list to compare with his. :D Also, you should do it on a clean account so we can see how high you get by the end. :)
Sometimes when I played tryn top i would get a random Shaco now and then. I rush ravenous hydra and completely ignore him whilst taking towers in his face.
So pink ward went full ap on shaco which is interesting. I dont even know how to counter udyr with shaco but morellos, cosmic drive, and some lifesteal sound like a good idea. That liandrys aint that good unless you can spam e and even then we saw what happened and it wasnt that good. Ap cant crit strike anymore since they removed that one item. Maybe crit strike shaco was the way to go.
lol of course Pink blames his team at the end. "i had the worst team" ... imagine having an ap shaco top that's 0/4 by 15 mins on your team lol. the actual definition of a useless teammate
For those that dont understand the battle thats going on in this lane, Pink ward is good enough that he can give Trick a hard time here. if he defends his minions well and can trick Udyr into losing too much Hp he can push back. The hard part is, that means placing boxes on his waves, wherever Udyr is going to meet the wave at. But if udyr sees where they are he just avoids them or maliwhaps them into the dirt. So the entire game right now is Pink ward trying to clear and place enough sneaky boxes IN A ROW that he can finally be a threat, but he cant do both he has to choose, and in that time Udyr just has way too much sustain from the wave alone and knows that if he just relaxes then he cant throw this. Udyr just practically auto wins this game because he out heals waves and PINK WARD shaco at the SAME time. Busted braindead champion.
pinkward tower hogging all game while trick takes the whole map. Lmao delusional thinking he outplay.. his team did all the work while he play like a bot.
I'm sorry but after few minutes of watching I have a feeling like you don't rly know the game or what :D "He's dying to red buff somehow" - well, yeah red buff does burn. And the moment when Pink Ward moved his clone in the bush far away from tower... Man, again, rly? Shaco's clone will teleport to Shaco if he gets out of range, so he waited just for the fight until clone runs out of time, Shaco would go in fight with Q to teleport with clone that explodes and does damage. Not playing LoL for a long time and yet still I do remember the old champion mechanics.
It's funny watching a player whose entire playstyle is solely based around cheese getting outcheesed by another player whose entire playstyle is solely based around cheese and getting mad about it
Udyr didn't really cheese. Trick just ignored Shaco and went for the objectives capitalizing Shaco inability to clear waves easy or fast. People falling over for Shacos cheese is the only win condition he has as a champion. The point of picking him is to tilt people to hopefully disconnect and insta win.
i have been playing only shaco for years , and there is such a simple counter that people just dont do..just ignore him , thats it , ignore him / sweeper + pink wards = easy lane
Watching his emotionless face stare into the abyss when he realizes its over is so funny
He put himself in that position didn’t go any magic pen, dude built horizon focus instead of shadow flame
It just reminds me of that south park episode when dude who played all his life in that chair finally died 😂😂😂
@@SinCity-we5kn horizons always outdamages shadowflame as long as you can proc the passive. hell ive had games where ive had it outdamage my ludens/liandry
@@SinCity-we5kn
Yuupp, it's expensive but if you don't have anti-shield or anti-heal you aren't doing much. Also he went ap instead of going ad bruiser which probably would have been easier to CS with and when the jungler ganks you're not a useless sack of **** either. Get anti-shield to stop the shield spam which is actually a viable item on shaco and you're golden.
@@SinCity-we5kn It's mathematically correct though, Boxes lasts longer depending on AP and more AH means more boxes. This build maximizes the duration of the box while having the most CDR possible without sacrificing damage.
It was simply countered this game.
I love watching annoying champions just get clapped by the good ol' Dyr.
Well played Trick.
ya I do find it ironic as well that pinkward plays a champion that incentivizes the enemy to not interact with him and then gets mad when that happens. In fact I think it's kind of disgusting that Shaco can even waveclear like he can.
What do you expect? that champ is mindless like Irelia, K'sante. These are champs designed to all-in ignoring everything.
Its so satisfying
pink ward is a honorable player playing agains a desonorable player/champ
@@Bluetheshark sounds like you need to get your head checked
I like how trick doing what he's always done is now a hulbreaker issue, considering trick ignored pinkward and took his turrets before he even had it. Hullbreaker IS bs but trick splitting is nothing new.
and same with baus lmao. everyone blames hullbreaker even though trick and baus just play smart
like, especially this game. Mans t2 was down before hullbreaker was bought. pw overstayed and backed in a vulnerable spot, then died again getting surprised by qiyana again because he couldnt bother atleast warding if hes gonna stay under tower with 200 hp for a solid 2 min. Ensuring you can win your toplane or contribute to winning the game isnt the job of his team. I
Because he went shaco top, trick could have also gone nasus and nothing would have changed, issue here isn't even the hullbreaker but how stupidly statcheck-y top lane is due to people expecting top to play 1v2 or even 1v3 the whole game.
D GATES
@@pendotxl822
As soon as I saw him backing in the open after that gank I thought I was watching a bronze game. Bro I swear if you were on my pro team and I saw you doing that shit, I'm kicking you off the team. That's not even just a noob mistake that's something that is EASILY preventable and costs games.
Pink ward acting like trick wouldnt have done the same thing with or without hullbreaker. Just top diff cope
He always act like he is the only guy with a brain out there. And always blame the "brainless" strategies, but, in reality, trick just didn't fell for shaco's tricks, AND got T2 even before hull was bought. Top abyss.
The fact that he thinks playing the baby champ that has infinite invis and flash, and can leave cc bombs everywhere, takes skill, is even more disgusting.
@@vierzwanzigen9722lol
Hullbreaker is actually not good for the game. They removed Sanguine Blade back in 2020 because they said it was bad for the game and replaced it with an equally bad item for the game. Thx riot
@@Decay611 Depends on how you look at it and the game that it's in. Hullbreaker is about generating value. The reality of this game was that trick is always going to be ahead and he knows he is because Pink ward continues to take AP shaco top when its not good against characters with built in sustain or damage mitigation. Now, we dont know who picked first but honestly shame on him if he continued to pick shaco into a udyr. I dont know how many time these bruiser hyper sustain champions have to completely thrash him before he understands that its probably not a good idea to take this champion into them. Besides the point though, hullbreaker is only good when you're ahead or have enough pressure around the map to take advantage of it. Yes, you can afk split into the next game rushing the item while being 0/7 if you want to, but the reality of it is, the bonus 500-600 gold of stats (and thats generous) that you get from building the item still wont help you in a 1v1 against the enemy top laner. So against better players who are going to abuse those openings, which will just flat out kill you on repeat should they have the capability to, you're going to be forced to group, literally making the item just a 3k gold sink.
TL;DR: Hullbreaker isn't an unhealthy item, it just promotes an unhealthy playstyle that people will follow regardless of their understanding of the item.
I can hear Trick in the background saying "What are you doing Jimmy?!"
You got me laughing and smiling with that one. I read with his voice. Good one. rofl
AYYY! AYYYY! JIMMY! WHAT ARE YOU DOING BOY!?
This must be one of the most satisfying videos against a top shaco user
Straigt up ignoring him and taking down towers
11/10
Pinkward was crying since 8 22 ingame 8:53. THEN, 18:41 he starts crying about his TEAM "fking garbage because they aren't doing anything on the map". MEANWHILE, they have BOTH dragons and Vayne got their only 2 towers. He lost lane while receiving help and Trick got none since min 1. If not for his 0/4 at this point and solo losing 2 towers top his team would be ahead.
what are you talkin bout, pw only got 1 gank very early and that also failed, and then got successfully ganked twice by qiyana, one tower dive and trick kept on gettin fed and shoving and took tower, did u have ur eyes closed early? "tRicK gOt nOnE siNcE miN 1" lmao trick only got help while even after being so shoved in, no ganks came for pw
@@b0sspls622 Yeah almost like PW picked shaco into his worst lane vs a counter. Hilarious how fanboys of each side are so delusional. 12 min in and there has been 1 gank for each side only. 2 deaths though for PW cause of his terrible solo kill attempt. How long is "early" game in your eyes? When 2nd tower is literally gone? PW played like utter garbage this game and pretty much solo lost.
LOL just saw his 2nd solo kill attempt at this point he is literally just feeding. Look at him in EVERY team fight just walking around doing actually no damage. ahhahahahahahaha and you are saying he didn't solo lose the game?
@@b0sspls622
The first gank wasn't even successful tbh. Pink was just a moron who TPed back to base in the literal open like the enemy jungler didn't see that.
Interesting. PW usually triggers his opponents while Trick's default mode is triggered. I would've thought this would have turned out the exact opposite of how it actually did but I guess Trick's gates mentality is the best counter to PW's
In Trick's POV he straight up says, "Why exactly would I even chase PinkWard? It's obviously dumb," then continues to grind the lane down.
@@ClockworkGearhead The correct choice, of course. But tbf, Trick's not exactly known for always going the wise course of action (whether for content or otherwise) :D
@@Norbingel You ain't wrong, but he, from time to time, demonstrates thinking above his distant primate ancestors. Sometimes.
Even if he did chase the shaco, the shaco would die. I don't fight an udyr as shaco, that's suicide.
@@Norbingel Exhibit B.....Hair Line
AP Shaco works better when the opponent is agressive. Trick's mindset is all about "the gates".
AP Shaco works when opponent stupid. Trick has years of experience
14 mothafuckin years
@@FellHead
This. This is why you don't go top and play AP shaco, go AD so you can make your own plays rather than relying on them being stupid. . .
@@Delimon007 but playing on ap shaco with stupid opponents is fun!
@@FellHead You know what's not fun? Playing AP Shaco against smart opponents. Exhibit A, this video.
Pink ward looks exactly what I imagined one trick Shaco main would look like
Hey 😢
Picking shaco into that matchup is just a lose. You cant one trick a champ and expect the game to go well every time. His team was doing fine, but when you get run over and lose ur tier 2 at 12 minutes and go 0/4, that is just a matchup/champ diff, not a team diff. Like, Shaco is not even considered a strong top laner
That guy believes he's some kind of genius for playing a champ for cowards.
more like a top diff, gates diff, pinkward got shit on by the truck
-does a recall in the middle of the lane
-gets counterganked and dies
-said enemy jungler is a snowball assassin
-blames team
yeah typical Shaco main lmao
Shaco main + Late game = 🗑️
Does Pink Ward seriously believe that he played better than Udyr? TRICK2G's literally trampled on it XD
Trampled is the wrong word. Trick simply marched forward, didn't dive in blind, and walked straight to the turret. He turned his brain off and gave PinkWard zero ways to get in his head.
@@ClockworkGearhead Is this not a top gap? He literally carried two lanes along the way killing Shako despite the fact that his opponent was Pink Ward
@@ponytail-cg8kj I'm not sure how you're interpreting this as disagreement. PW's playstyle requires baiting and getting the enemy to interact and Trick just didn't.
@@ClockworkGearheadtrick 100% did, it's just shaco can't compete with udyr, the circle zone counters shaco boxes and ult, but shaco isn't meant to beat udyr, he needed help, and yet no support jungle help the whole game except the beginning
@@ClockworkGearhead Yes, that's why Udyr turned out to be better. Pink Ward acted according to a proven scheme that worked for everyone, but from the very beginning it is clear that TRICK2G simply does not lead to tricks Shako, acts carefully and just breaks the tower, he does not even try to kill Shako because he understands that he will not succeed
Every time brotha gets steamrolled he blames team like he didn’t pick a champ in a role it’s at its weakest lmao.
the strongest role you mean? Did you forget that Zeus solo carried T1 for the whole worlds?
@@edoardobuffa4674im pretty sure he meant shaco in the position top , not the top role itself , still up for debate for each role importance and I’m not here to debate that topic , tbh it’s pretty even all around it’s just that each roles has a different feel and certain games have certain roles be increased in importance or decreased
@@edoardobuffa4674 Imagine comparing anecdotal worlds experience to solo queue experience and thinking its somehow valid.
@@haydenhenderson19 true, everyone knows in pro-play adc is stronger than in soloq due to team coordination (the role is completely team reliant), so if at worlds Top was the strongest, it means adc as a role is REALLY bad.
@@edoardobuffa4674 typical adc player lmfao
Trick doing his everyday routine making cringe shaco players maaad
I faced a Shaco top ONE time and I've been top laning since like forever. He owned me so bad haha. I'm so supportive of any shaco top losing this hard. Well done, Trick. Well done.
i haven't played against a top shaco since s7,and it was talon top vs shaco in d2,dude got farmed hard could just control ward his box at the time XD
@@ogaimon3380 Did you ever go up against the Ivern players? Same with Shaco, my first time against Ivern was the most embarassing beatdown of my top lane career. I mean, he went like 5-0 in lane, had rylais and Demonics or something while I was on 1 item, it was super sadge -_-
@@claireevich7575I didn't play against ivern players on top... because for a while I was ivern on top lmaoo
@@claireevich7575i only played against ivern top once in my promos to master a handful of years ago, i was darius and i didn't have ghost.
I spent the entire game trying to farm😂.
pink ward complaining about toxic playstyles is kinda wild lmao
You need to watch this from tricks perspective... way more entertaining/educational.
link? :)
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Best way to play into a lane shaco? Ignore him. Be tanky and have enough sustain to just ignore everything he does. Udyr can do this exceptionally well and T2G shows it here. Also, hullbreaker is dumb and an unfun item for bruiser top lane champs that just split push.
even bot lane when shaco is support I play against it by just afk farming.
Not actually useful information if he's actually ad shaco and he's stabbing you in the back 24/7. As a top shaco main (who never plays ap shaco btw) I also build bruiser so the moment I hit level 6 you're just going to be fighting 2 of me. I even beat a kayle top and she literally made zero mistakes. It was pretty close but smart plays let me come out ahead on kills and our CS was even.
If I were playing AP shaco in that instance I would have been useless af since I wouldn't be able to apply any pressure whatsoever just like this dude. This is how you get ignored and they just take your towers. AP shaco doesn't scale well and has a horrid early game. AD shaco can take advantage of his Qs as well as his backstab passive with a box here or two to zone during engagements. Not saying that AP shaco top can't do stuff, it's just that in the current meta I do not know or understand why you would want to play AP shaco into these bruisers or worse, ranged carries going top.
@@Delimon007 The reason for AP shaco is the wave clear. AD shaco has horrid wave clear. By going AP shaco, Udyr can ignore him and then it becomes a battle of wave clear. If Pinkward went AD shaco, he wouldn't have any wave clear. Again the sustain and wave clear Udyr has will still allow him to ignore AD shaco damage and out push him. AD Shaco would have fared much worse without a lot of jungle or mid help. Shaco top just isn't good into characters like Udyr who have massive sustain, tankiness, and great wave clear be it AP shaco or AD shaco.
notice the amount of "i" in this guy's comment. you dont win a fight against udyr as AD fucking shaco in any world buddy, it doesnt matter how much hp, damage or attack speed you have on those knives. you're not outbursting/outdamaging/outsustaining a champion that has everything you build on their kit@@Delimon007
fuckin delusional@@Delimon007
Watching this thinking the whole time "How is he going to turn this around? Must be some cool counterplay coming!" Sometimes a loss is just a loss the whole way through.
90% of the time in D1+, hence why you see so many people say it's game over at 10 minutes.
i watched for trick and pinkward. the video creator has as much charisma as a brick.
"People knowing how to play against shaco" POV shaco mains: mY tEaM iS sTrAsH BrOken iTeMs BrOkEn ChAmPs
To be fair it's not that hard, Shaco is useless unless people play exactly to his hand.
I simply ignored the jungler Shaco and he eventually got careless cause he thought I wouldn't attack. Turned around and slapped him 3 times is all it took with his laughably low hp pool.
As a Shaco main only 1 thing comes to mind Joker "You get what you fucking deserve".
Trick the type of guy to 1v1 a tower
And get out maneuvered
18:40 the tilter has become the tilted
trick2g mentioned - who the hell is Pants are Dragon.............. *Raaaah
“Oh noooo why doesn’t Trick want to tower dive me… outplayed bad team”
That’s the 14 years of experience special. Big ups Trick.
Thats exactly what i do against shaco or singed top. They want you to chase them, just dont chase them no matter what. I pick sion and just scale/split. If singed proxy, i counter proxy, and since my sustain is stronger i can proxy for longer.
I mean, it's kinda hard to out proxy the king of proxying lol! Probably the only better option might be trynda if he rushes a hydra because you're not going to be chasing him, he's going to be chasing you instead 😂
I actually like pink ward but it’s really hard to feel bad for him at all… he’s complaining about the lack of skill required out of his enemies in order to beat him, and yet he’s the one who chooses to play the champ that actively avoids trying to interact with people at all, in fucking top lane of all places. His strategy is infinitely more skill expressive, and yet it’s so much more cheesy and worthless than an actual toplaner most of the time, and it’s not his teams fault for not wanting to play around that.
ChaseShaco is the actual Shaco one trick with skill
Just goes to show consistency > flashy plays.
A gold Lee sin flash insects ward dashes into e.
A challenger Lee sin presses q and then q auto to deal the max damage possible in the easiest way possible in the fastest way possible and the most consistent way possible.
pinkward talking about toxic playstyles out of everyone is the funniest thing yet
Pink saying he has the worst team when he did absolutely nothing in the entire game
The one and only el trucccooooo john dyr (deere) special.
If pink ward had trick's energy, he would be a 10x bigger streamer/youtuber.
“What’s that thing in the mid lane taking the inhibitor” 💀
thats right guys listen to "high ranked" players talk out there ass when they say "dont blame your team, get better" etc...but somehow when its them "its my team" "its my champ" league is not skill based it is champ select and rng based
autistic take
It was funny watching Pink and all his team running after Trick 😂
I mean come on, that's what Trick always do, no one can catch him , he will make you run the whole map 😂😂😂😂
23:29 R.I.P. Pants are Dragon
I mean honestly lol buddy plays shaco top and gets run over 0/4 and is too useless to do anything so he just says teams shit cant do anything..xd
14 years old vet on breaching the gate vs like to outplay people Shaco main
Trick mindset is really simple : winning? breach the gate. losing? still breach the gate. That's just how moba work guys... Destroy building = win the game
You can outplay enemy on maros/skills. but you can't outplay their enemy team main target: buildings .. Kek
And ofc for 1 last opinion : don't ever get caught from mid game and so on when enemy team have a breacher.
@18:40 trick was doing it even before hull was even in the game
"definitely not that my team is fucking garbage" whilst he is the worst player of his team this game kekw
He did this when it was the item to disable towers, he did it when it was called sanguine blade, he did does this now that's called Hull breaker and will do it in the future whatever the item change, removal or addition may be.
Trick can shit on him with multiple different champs while he tries to lay boxes down and clown around every game I do like pink ward but you can't mess with the dawg
Guy really blamed his team mates for not being able to hold his own weight on the match. 🤣
when i saw Trick taking mid while they were fighting for dragon, all i could hear in my head was "THEY MUST HAVE FORGOT ABOUT EL TRUCO!!" lol
Not gonna lie I didn’t know who you were dressed up as until you pulled out the “indeed 👨🏻⚕️” 😂
I love seeing a shaco cry
stop crying about 'interactive' with the rest of the armchair analysts. trick has been opening the gates for 14 years. blue card salute
Likely ordered the food, definitely didn't even chew it
lmao pinkward inting then flaming his team lmoa
trick was playing chess while others were playing checkers
How does this guy have 800k subscribers to just leech someone else's content and talk about it like a drunk uncle
HOW HAS PINKWARD NOT LOST ANY WEIGHT SINCE 2014?!?! It's been ten years my guy.... start taking care of yourself. wtf... it's not a good look for him to appear as if he's not going to make it to see his 50th birthday.
Never seen this dude smile
Type of videos that will not ever go on PinkWard's channel.
15:24 stupid comments like this are why we lost zz'rot. because people like you don't understand how interactive and strategic splitpushing is, and are just mad that they can't counter it by being fed.
bro couldn't enjoy his cheese pick. Love to see it.
trick: playing the game
pink ward: protoss bronze player
Fr he didn't even attempt to farm. He just dropped boxes occasionally and afked under tower.
I love how pink basically troll picked Shaco of all champions to play top lane and after he had 0 wave clear or lane priority and got rolled started complaining about the team being bad when Vayne and Jarvan were cleaning house.
11:13 " dont be a bussy" is craaazzyyy haha i love him
No time to cook with an at home job that you choose where when and what to do... 😂
I am watching a fat guy watching a even fatter guy and me myself am quite fat , time to hit the gym
😂
His tears sustain me. Him getting bodied doesn't matter, just that his team isn't playing well. Dudes a clown IRL.
oh sweet summer child... you probably havent even heard stories of innervating locket Udyr
endless health. endless mana. endless transformations.
endless enjoyment.
then throw an aggressive support champ on him like zyra, brand or orianna.
Literally any champ can beat shaco top, as long as you don't run at him like a bot you'll always have a lead and sometimes like pink ward showed shacos gets tilted and try to make a play and die.
As soon as people knew about pink ward and his tactics it just became the most useless playstyle ever
Wow, 300 IQ Shaco main was useless the entire game and blamed his team.
THATS THE DYR!!!!
14 years btw
shining force theme ftw
Honestly, it seems like Trick is just a braindead player. So you can't fool a fool, you know 🤷♂️
Biggest top diff ever first turret in less than 10 mins oof
i am fascinated by some Pink Ward plays.. but if he played like that on EU he wouldn't higher than lower diamond
I'm surprised he's not diamond in NA playing like this tbh.
They must've forgot
In the end, justice always prevails
Pink ward should be banned. Look at how that guy plays
watch u long time! keep it up 1 mil soon
A-Z jg by nightblu3 has been incredible, and I'd love if you did it too and did a tier list to compare with his. :D Also, you should do it on a clean account so we can see how high you get by the end. :)
Confirmed that baus int strat works better!
seeing BOTH shaco and vayne get shit on is a treat
Yoooo everything this commentator said was like not what was happening
Sometimes when I played tryn top i would get a random Shaco now and then. I rush ravenous hydra and completely ignore him whilst taking towers in his face.
Awww did someone's one dimensional playstyle get countered 😢😢😢😢
trick has been breaching for 13 years. Hullbreaker changes nothing
So pink ward went full ap on shaco which is interesting. I dont even know how to counter udyr with shaco but morellos, cosmic drive, and some lifesteal sound like a good idea. That liandrys aint that good unless you can spam e and even then we saw what happened and it wasnt that good. Ap cant crit strike anymore since they removed that one item. Maybe crit strike shaco was the way to go.
trick did us proud
lol of course Pink blames his team at the end. "i had the worst team" ... imagine having an ap shaco top that's 0/4 by 15 mins on your team lol. the actual definition of a useless teammate
Imagine playing with any Shaco teammate, the guy is trying to actively lose by scaling off as hard as they can by mid to late game.
anybody that knows trick this is how he fucking gets down, OPEN UP DA GATES.
I love it. he deserves every moment of that suffering for playing shaco lol 😂😂
I don't understand why he builds Horizon Focus all the time. Like is it just for the ult? Cause traps and E can't use it(?)
The himalayan salt is real!
The smartest league top Shaco vs an old boomer. Who wins? The answer may surprise you🤣
For those that dont understand the battle thats going on in this lane, Pink ward is good enough that he can give Trick a hard time here. if he defends his minions well and can trick Udyr into losing too much Hp he can push back.
The hard part is, that means placing boxes on his waves, wherever Udyr is going to meet the wave at. But if udyr sees where they are he just avoids them or maliwhaps them into the dirt.
So the entire game right now is Pink ward trying to clear and place enough sneaky boxes IN A ROW that he can finally be a threat, but he cant do both he has to choose, and in that time Udyr just has way too much sustain from the wave alone and knows that if he just relaxes then he cant throw this. Udyr just practically auto wins this game because he out heals waves and PINK WARD shaco at the SAME time. Busted braindead champion.
First time he play vs a good and not stupid player nice.
pinkward tower hogging all game while trick takes the whole map. Lmao delusional thinking he outplay.. his team did all the work while he play like a bot.
I'm sorry but after few minutes of watching I have a feeling like you don't rly know the game or what :D "He's dying to red buff somehow" - well, yeah red buff does burn. And the moment when Pink Ward moved his clone in the bush far away from tower... Man, again, rly? Shaco's clone will teleport to Shaco if he gets out of range, so he waited just for the fight until clone runs out of time, Shaco would go in fight with Q to teleport with clone that explodes and does damage. Not playing LoL for a long time and yet still I do remember the old champion mechanics.
Diabetic ward has the gull to criticize Trick2g's playstyle when he's just a one-trick himself. At least trick plays multiple champs.
Tower sitting simulator, idk what he expected, trick2g is too smart to mindlessy chase
It's funny watching a player whose entire playstyle is solely based around cheese getting outcheesed by another player whose entire playstyle is solely based around cheese and getting mad about it
Udyr didn't really cheese.
Trick just ignored Shaco and went for the objectives capitalizing Shaco inability to clear waves easy or fast. People falling over for Shacos cheese is the only win condition he has as a champion. The point of picking him is to tilt people to hopefully disconnect and insta win.
Wow...he was huge last time I saw him but he somehow managed to get bigger. Guy legit looks like he's dying, now.
THATS THE DYR BABY LETS GO BABY OPEN UP DEM GATES D CANNEEE PUT IT DOWWNNN BOOOMMMM
i have been playing only shaco for years , and there is such a simple counter that people just dont do..just ignore him , thats it , ignore him / sweeper + pink wards = easy lane
pinkward can never take blame... his lane is the most lost
pinkward think he can trick everyone using shaco is his biggest mistake 💀🤣
This is what happens when you forget