I loved growing up in our liberal soft communist Yugoslavia. It was certainly worth living in the real experiment confederate state of different religious groups coexisting in relative peace for almost half of century.
Zizek is the most unconventional genius around. His way of articulating his thoughts, and his intents are so unorthodox, and non-lateral, that it goes over my head until you have that "uhhhuh moment(s)"
magina23 Not that it matters, but strictly out of curiosity, do you really believe that he does all of his lectures and interviews on cocaine, rather that suffering from [non drug induced] nervous tics? Cause I’ve put a pretty decent amount of white girl up my nose over the years, and I’ve NEVER been that skeeted out.
@@dethkon It's funny to me that the people who say they're coke induced tics are just showing they've likely never even seen stims IRL. Adding to that, Zizek has spoken about his Tourette's in the past. It's not even funny anymore.
If the intention here was to create a sarcastic tone, then I think you should lighten up a bit. Well, hopefully your view of the jokes have changed after two or so years.
My uncle Branislav was born in Titoslavia. When we were children he was Yugoslavian, as teenagers...he had become Serbian, back then when i wasnt nearly as educated on the topic, i always found it strange that all of a sudden, my uncle was from a new country...
Your uncle was always Serb ,it will be more correct to say Serb from Yugoslavia,yes we all had Yugoslav passports,ID ......officially we ,from all six republics of former Yugoslavia were Yugoslavs .
@@tariqcolakovic4556 No, I'm not. Yugoslavia was formed in 1918 as unity of Serbs, Croats and Slovenians. Today, yes, there are more ethnic groups. But then, those were just the geographical names.
@@tariqcolakovic4556 Bosniaks are converted catholic Croats and orthodox Serbians. Faith doesn’t change your ethnicity. Except if they slept with Turks which makes them less Slavic due to Turks being Turkic.
I lived in Belgrade for a year. My wife's family came from there. She grew up in Yugoslavia during her childhood, while her parents were Yugoslavs for life. Or so they thought. And though the current administration is some kind of throwback to a time when people thought Serbia would be a great regional power, many people in that city are nostalgic for the days of Yugoslav socialism. Speaking as an American I found it difficult to understand. But their continuing anger at the 90s bombing campaign, and the relics of buildings left in ruins as remembrance, that's hard to not understand. People are still pissed about that. Zizek is not wrong. Many people there, especially those old enough to have lived in Yugoslav socialism, are fond of those memories and indignant at what has come since.
Shitocracy, religion, and crapitalism were Forced upon eastern europe, by massive CIA operations Sure they wanted democratization, but they didn't want what the west forced on them, which is clero-fascism...
MrDeicide1 I don’t think they wanted capitalism but the neighbors that were getting massacred by Serbs needed assistance fighting them. That’s for sure.
Hahahaha as a american i see why you dont understand But one of reasons why serbians are so "nostalgic" is because they were tyrannical rulers who forced all the resources and money into their capital, Belgrade Thats why they miss yugoslavia, not because it was awesome under socialism, it was actually averagely bad for everyone Now its even worse, but thats because of all the bad policies and yugoslavia did back in time, we havr to pay their depts now
@@Bleilock1 oh well,speaking out from your ass is easy.Slovenia got out from Yugoslavia with up to date modern nuclear plant and Gorenje,Planika and much of IT from Yugoslavia,they were in font of Greece,Portugal and Ireland in economy in 90.Croatia was equal to Serbia and only who can say itwas bad for them was maybe Bosnia and Macedonia.But maybe.
@@TheRadivoje hahahaha and you tell me that i speak out of my ass Slovenia got out of yugoslavia in such way because thry didnt have to return foreign debt that tito, yugoslavia (serbia) has made over the years 90% of the dept waa split between croatia and serbia They didnt even have to repay the reparations, plus half od that nuclear plant is croatian (talking about power produced) it will close soon to beacuae they cant produce anymore nuclear waste And second part is prolly your serbian propaganda, everyone had it bad, serbia was just one huge manipulator, ruining other countries in yugoslavia by centralization And in 90s they had (and still do to this day) have piss poor economy compared to croatia, and slovenia for you guys is western europe, as you have said it yourself So yea, serbia aint the dreamland which can conquer the world, the way you guys learn in your schools
Zizek: "so yeah it was a cardboard cutout of a political ideology that made up Yugoslavia" The comments: "zomg another tic omg a tic ong guys did you SEE THAT TIC omg so blessed BY TICS WOW SO TIC"
Yeah man idk the first time I watched a zizek video I thought those comments were sort of funny but they’re soooo tiresome, you’d think people were watching this just for the tics
Zizek's greatest flaw is that he's immensely self-loathing and dismissive of his Yugoslav history and identity. Yugoslavia's ideology of Titoism and Non-Alignment is what elevated her to the status of global power in the aftermath of the Tito-Stalin split, and had inspired Gaddafi's Third International Theory and Deng's foreign policy. The reason why the ideology never had to be taken seriously by the Yugoslavs is because of how integrated it was in the Yugoslav daily and cultural mainstream, it was effective to the point where it felt as if it was not there while being omnipresent.
Absolutely. It was a third position that lasted much longer than Fascism and it pisses off commies who pretend not to understand Tito, and often don't while whining about him betraying their socialism.
I can say that the same occurred in india. It doesn't take a second before people trash the NAM before realising its larger potential to become the first ASEAN with an ideological project countering the West. Though, as for India, it was opportunistic with the Third World due its domestic politics.
Absolutely absurd to take pride in inspiring fucking Gaddafi and Deng. Gaddafi was an anti-communist and Islamist, Deng was a capitalist roader who returned free-market capitalism to China.
@@numenoreaneternity6682 it’s not universally applicable, nor should it be. The communist movement is not non-aligned, it is not exclusive to the imperial periphery or “third world”. It is no “third position”. There is a communist, revolutionary movement and a capitalist, counterrevolutionary reaction. Any appeal to bourgeois nationalists in any country or to the idea of “national sovereignty” (an absurd claim for anyone who recognizes that class struggle knows no nations) is a counterrevolutionary appeal.
What genuinely I think is, when people talk about the good times in Yugoslavia, it was actually the part when Tito was alive and until his death in 1980. Or to be more precise they talk about it when we look the things from today until 1982/early 1983 when IMF came in. It is silly to say that Yugoslav left believed in miracles, but they actually do. It's a rather fun and also ironic because it is what it actually is, Tito was a miracle, way ahead of its time and after him no one could actually take the same momentum and the same level of charisma that he had. There was couple of people that was actually close to that same level of skills like he was, for example there was Dzemal Bijedic. But as many of those "prodigies" they either passed away early or had, if you'd ask me an "accident" which followed death of course. Its kinda confusing to wrap around your mind when it comes to these things, but yeah...
@@gaiusjulius7538 and I understand why. Slovenia has a biggest debt than all of the republics of former country, Croatia is selling its islands to rich germans, my lovely Bosnia being torn apart even to this day between the nationalist presidents, Serbia is well gonna have trouble since that emotional president of theirs wants to put his head in both west and east asses simultaneously brings well, that what happens now in Serbia. Montenegro also has issues due to religion/politics. Macedonia is well either greek, serbian or bulgarian, during Titos time no one dared to say those things. Kosovo is a product of serbian mismanaged politics, albanians are different, they were different always but again Tito comes to play by giving a bit of autonomy and many good things there, even university with Albanian language, so even they liked it there also. In the end, I believe if politics in the 90s were more honest and more focused on anything else besides war, example making some kind of con-federation or even some kind of a trade union with all of republics, I'd work for minimal wage of 1500€ with all of the rights of a normal every day human being. Not move out from these parts to other countries that offer some kind of future.
@@jtothed8575 that opinion is like a two edged sword. I mean yes, Tito was one of a kind, that happenes very rarely in the world. His life was literal war and suffering, hence two WW and losing of his little daughter. But yet he, after he came to power, after the first purge ofc, pushed for peace and for pretty much everything what happened in Yugoslavia until his death and around 7 years after his death. After Tito's death in 1980, the single position of president was divided into a collective presidency where representatives of each republic would essentially form a committee where the concerns of each republic would be addressed and from it, collective federal policy goals and objectives would be implemented. The head of the collective presidency was rotated between representatives of the republics, plus two autonomous provinces of Kosovo and Vojvodina. So you had, 8 grown people, educated ones plus their administrations from each republic to work together to sky rocket the country into first world. But no, couple of dumbasses decided what they decided, and now we that were born during the wars, no matter of our religion, nationality, had to move out of that sick society that is former Yugoslav countries today. At least I can proudly say thank God for Tito, because he at least gave good life for my parents, and we (my generation), we're gonna manage somehow, scattered around the whole world. Nationalism or that so called patriotism talks about how home and country are most important, yet we were never more far away from those same countries, that we are today, some of us, but in short future we're gonna be the majority.
What he didn't tell you is that in the last two odd decades of Socialist Yugoslavia, or more specifically since the 1974. constitution - each of the 6 constituent republics had its own state security organization - which was FAR more powerful and influential in that republic than any other or indeed the increasingly marginalized federal state security organization. It was the condition from the West in order to obtain loans which kept the little Yugoslav socialist paradise afloat for a while. The purpose was, of course to create a tool with which the West could play on internal Yugostlav conflicts in order to ensure obedience and payments. When a few of those organizations became less than cooperative, the remaining, cooperative ones received support from the West to secede...
Consequences of that were, that ordinary people were able to take loans, and because of inflation, they only had to pay back peanuts... and the other one was the inevitable end of Yugoslavia, and with that, the market has completely changed, some companies literally had lost 90% of the market. Some analysts claim, Yugoslavia should always have been a confederation, and I do think they are right.
What all Stalinist, Ustasha, No-Liberal, and Chetnik revisionists have in common is their desire to spread slanderous revisionism about Yugoslavia, but not to digress. The only problem was the way the monetary policy was managed, especially during the oil crises in the 70s and 80s. But this could have easily been fixed with a pegged currency. But when Ante Markovic did that in 1990, it was too late - as he had “nationalists” working against him such as Milosevic, sabotaging the central bank by taking out loans and giving them to their constituents as gifts for votes, while at the same time printing money in insane quantities - causing another series of hyperinflation. Not to mention all services such as free healthcare, education, and so on were cut. All this is under the subversions of the IMF. What kept Yugoslavia existing was its superior exporting industry, and cornering the infrastructure-building industry in the totality of the Third World. Historically speaking, whenever a united South Slavic state would be formed - and at the expense of the geopolitical interests of some Great European Powers, those states were destroyed by foreign, Western powers, and incidentally, the latter would always utilize fringe, ultranationalist organizations as subsidiaries and as vassals and assets naturally subservient to Western economic and geopolitical interests. Also, Tito was not a dictator, he was democratically elected president, the greatest statesman of the Cold War era, and one of the greatest statesmen of the 20th century, and unlike Wilhelm and Hitler, two textbook representatives of German policies of war, devastation, and untold suffering, Tito didn't cause the death of up to 70 million people in but a single century, and he certainly didn't cause irreparable damage to the whole of Europe, but brought much-needed stability to the continent, stability which was, yet again, undone by a German statesman - Helmut Kohl, whose government was openly hostile to Yugoslavia and made sure to cause the most destructive war on European soil since WW2, a war which the Germans have started as well.
@@numenoreaneternity6682 Kinda forgot abt this but yeah, what the west doesn't understand that we south slavic people are different ethnic groups, with different religions, beliefs, cultures, languages (yes pal we dont have the same languages, a slovene can't understand a croat and vice versa etc, only serbs, bosniaks and croats can understand each other) and us united actually doesn't help us at all, germany and italy for example wanted to keep yugoslavia a thing and actively tried making it a puppet and force it into joining axis. as we all know that went badly. economically it doesnt really help us neither because majorities always prevail in nations like yugoslavia, serbs used the country to exploit other member republics for resources while actively pursuing a policy of "serbification", it used it's status to also deny autonomy to kosovo and vojvodina. my point is that yugoslavia didn't fall apart because of "western influence" (infact the west supported serbia in trying to take back croatia and slovenia since they were highly supportive of yugoslavia) but instead 50 years of multiethnical tensions that finally caused a war after much needed liberalization that tito violently denied. (check up UGBA, the yugoslav secret police which killed tons of people especially in germany). Tito wasn't democratically elected neither lmfao he was an authoritarian dictator, softer then some in the east but still a dictator mate, and his actions like in bleiburg just prove this. yugoslavia was bound to fail
I was going to comment on nervous ticks but then I realized this is RUclips. There are tens of thousands of other spectacular visuals to watch and comment on... But the idea that ideology is a primitive ritual with absolutely no value is here today 11/11. People will actually stop for a full 60 seconds to remember the "heroes" of WWI. No one really give a shit. No one "remembers" any of it because no one living today was there, but still. Everyone will "remember" to stop as if their doing so will make any difference to anything ever. Thanks Slavoy - you are needed to point out our irrationality. Tick and all.
Like when someone who takes Rush Limbaugh seriously- a 'true believer'- calls up. Rush might be polite but his genuine response is cold, he acts bored and cuts him off in short order- 'another idiot who misses the point'- which is to parody ''pointy-headed' arguments as a kind of ludicrous, bizarre Liberal for the sake of laughs, not to believe in the "Conservative, Republican Cause' but simulate a belief in order generate attention from suckers for the sake of advertising revenues. It's a distinction 'Left' radio doesn't get and their ratings show it. 'God Bless America' refers to the greatest of a country where you can get rich fooling suckers and be despised by millions of people who can't do a thing to stop you, the pinnacle of 'freedom'.
It is a negative secular pragmatist ideology: "Why think about the ideology/lie just acted it out. Be pragmatic, no worries, just make sure that something does take place: make things happen" etc.
Only one minute at the end of the video he references Yugoslavia. But i would like for him to expand on that point, with examples and illustrations. I just don't get how it was by what he was saying.
The regime back here persecuted primary nationalists (as they would say separists), but also Marxists who wanted more Marxism less Titoism. Goli Otok was probably worse than any Russian gulag and it was in the first round of prisoners filled only with Stalinists and other Communists who weren't on the line. Later came the Croatian nationalists and liberals, when the captured Communists literary from the nothing build the prison. Tito was a mass murderer, just like Stalin or Pol Pot.
@@PP266 goli otok was not worse than gulag,and Tito didnt killed his own citizens for no reason and if we compare numbers USSR killed more citizens than all of the men who died in WW2 in yugoslavia combined so i wouldnt say he was the mass murder.Those who were imprisoned in goli otok were mostly just political prisoners and this kept country and govorment stabile and people were happy.
Unfortunatly the yugoslav model of communism didn't survive. Tito's yugoslavia was the only communist country with a human face. With a yugoslav passport, u could travel the world, something unheard of if u came from hungary or poland. Growing up in germany, i had yugoslav friends and workmates. We could go to yugoslavia visa free. But u could also sense the underlying hostilities between the different ethnic groups, and foresee the sad outcome of the yugoslav experiement.
Yugoslavia would not have broken up if not for the huge sums of money flowing in from the US, West Germany and Saudi Arabia, to finance separatist groups and terrorist organisations.
@@gaiusjulius7538 Ah yes the Western powers really feared the mighty Yugoslavia where you couldn't drive your car on odd days because there was no oil in the country. A country run by an autocrat that jailed any opposition and had political dissenters assassinated in foreign countries. A country based on IMF loans and debt they could never pay off and spiral into hyperinflation because of it's socialist ideology. Truly a power feared by the west so that's why intelligence agencies destroyed it and DEFINITELY NOT because it was a corrupt socialist state defaulting on it's loans, with increasing hyperinflation and historic rates of unemployment that had it's personality cult dictator die during the same period the Berlin wall fell in '89 as a result of the fall of communism and the revolutionary wave spread to every republic in a spring of nations which wanted independence from "Greater Serbia" in all but name. Stop parroting your stupid coping mechanism ideas.
@@melkiorkrleza6008 Just open a book and read how all former Yugoslav countries had their debt rise from 13 billion in 1988 to 184 FUCKING BILLON in 2010 with precious democracy that foreign banks gently lend us and you're telling us that crap... For real never speak again you are an idiot.
@@Naeinsengimnida I'm not saying today our jokes of states are off any better but jerking each other off about Yugoslavia being some Utopia is just pathetic. Everybody likes to talk about how we had "factories", factories that did what exactly? Extremely unproductive jokes that placated apparatchiks and political yes men with made up positions while their greatest export was the Yugo 45 to other poor eastern european countries. The shipyards that could only function in a socialist system, as soon as the market opened up they instantly collapsed. Their socialist system functioned while the the west and east needed to fight for influence because of the cold war, as soon as Tito died it was over and with communism collapsing the outcome was inevitable. A country with political prisons for dissenters that sent it's agents to murder people abroad... The uncomfortable truth is as similar as we are and as much as I don't personally hate everyone is that we were simply never brothers. We were under different spheres of influence and Croatians and Serbs were at each others throats back into the kingdom of Yugoslavia with serbs going as far as to assassinate Stjepan Radić in the parliament, Gavrilo Princip assassinating the archduke because he would've integrated Bosnia under the Croatian crown, Croatian ustaše along with IMRO killing Alexander during his state visit to France. We fought each other in world war 1 and world war 2, and not to mention all the crimes we did to each other during the 2nd one that were just used as fuel for nationalism during the 90s. If we were "brothers" the conflict simply wouldn't have happened. The opportunists that led our countries during it simply let the people have what they REALLY wanted. That's what most really don't want to confront themselves with.
And the biggest irony of them all is - people who bullshit Yugoslavia are at least 90% of those who weren't even alive back then. And those same people laugh at the elderly who did experience Yugoslavia, and that know much more about it than us.
Because you are saying this is how i feel about Yugoslavia and you make up things to make Yugoslavia look better, and then we show you facts and you get angry, because those facts shows opposite from what you wanted Yugoslavia to be. In my opinion Yugoslavia was a mistake, and the worst part is that the same mistake was repeated more then once.
@@Beq4tb,ljudi su posjedovali svari od vrjednost,kuce stanove,zemlju ,Jugoslavoja nije bila potrosacko drustvo vec se razvijala organski prema potrebama stanovnistva ,a ne profitne utakmice korporacija
I don't understand how can so many people that listen to Slavoj Žižek (hard person to stumble upon on the internet) say the same thing over and over again - coke-head, man loves his dope, intelligent addict etc.
Same in the Soviet Union & the countries that were modeled after it as well (and is still today). They didn't want their population to really be well versed in socialism & capitalism, but to just accept the way things are & assume what the state says is the truth, just some hand picked quotes the govt highlights from theorists & revolutionaries but other than that, not dig deep into it. In some ways Yugoslavia was actually more socialist than the Soviet Union, China, etc. but it still wasn't fully there.
@@sextempiric7137 Also collages in US are the core of socialism there, and people who defend the old way are regular folks. So about education, it is quite opposite. You educate yourself about history of Imperialism, political and economical forces and it is clear who is on the side of progress and who is opposing it. If you have free capitalism you will end up from where you started and that is feudalism.
So are we "well versed" now? Political ignorance is a generalized phenomenon, and the absence of a "government that tells you how to think and makes you accept things are fine just the way they are" is not enough to avoid it. We now have tons of free and universally accessible information on the Internet with only a click, and this lack of political culture is even more shocking than in the former "socialist" countries, or even in previous generations of inhabitants of "capitalist" countries. In the United States, which is the world's leading exporter of ideological products for all tastes (products ranging from the "alt right" mess to postmodern identity politics, which are basically two sides of the same coin), many people live and breathe convinced that Biden (and H. Clinton, and their party), Canada, the Scandinavian countries, Putin, Maduro, Soros, Bezos or international finance capital are "communists" (or socialists, or Marxists, because any term is equally valid to put a face and a name on their metaphysical idea of the Devil). Is this the result of decades of propaganda during and after the Cold war? Undoubtedly. But if "the most educated generation and with greater access to the information in history" is not only intellectually disarmed in the face of this propaganda, but also uncritically swallows it with more enthusiasm than their parents and grandparents, this really forces us to rethink what kind of preparation and information they do receive.
@@mpetkovic26 Do you not realise that you essentially said "the working masses are reactionaries whilst the educated managerial class tend to be socialists" This is a great example of how low class consciousness has fallen, this is anathema to even the basics of marxisms! It is clear: if a worker used his own vocabulary to express his alienation on a podium you would consider him an uncouth populist. Yet someone of the managerial class comes up and explains how terrible it is that things are the way they are and how the working man needs to be emancipated trough technical jargon that flatters your intellectual sensibilities you would be saying: hurrah! A good progressive!
Hi, I've just made the spanish subtitles for this. I would like to send them to you. Let me know if you are interested. It would be great to be able to spread among Spanish speakers.
The thing is that that cynicallity, that refusal to believe is itself the biggest lie, the biggest mistake, the biggest illusion, the biggest belief in something that isn't, and cannot be real
“It was an ideology that worked on the condition that it was not taken seriously”… What an outstanding encapsulation of what all ideologies are. Inflexibly strict adherence to any ideology is just extremism
I think his point was more that a person can state and even believe they are against a certain ideology (say, capitalism), but the real truth of their belief is hidden in their actions. In other lectures, he goes as far as to say that modern ideology requires subjects not to take it seriously in order for it to function, like in the example of capitalism. As long as you buy Starbucks "ironically," as long as you deep-down feel that the latest trends are stupid, as long as you internally disavow what you externally participate in, then you are vindicated from self-criticism and can continue contradicting your beliefs with "moral impunity." Yet you are always revealing your true belief via your actions and habits. One can shape their own reality this way, for better or for worse.
This reminds me of how the mafia works - or at least, how media has made the mafia appear to me. You watch a show like the Sopranos and none of the head guys / capos / captains really believe in omerta or not touching made men or protecting the family of their deceased comrades. Tony has zero issue with icing (or sanctioning the icing of) people that should fall into a protected class. Big Pussy is one of Tony's friends and listen to how he talked to Sal about being a cop. Tony's own mother, sister, and uncle regularly conspire against him. Anyone who really believes in the "family" is either new, naive (Adriana), removed from the action (Carmela), intoxicated (Chris), stupid (Lil Carmine), etc. Anyone who is a real gangster is absolutely cut throat - and if they're not, they're very willing to act like they are. It seems like a prerequisite for getting into power with these guys is finding a way to break their code without suffering repercussions. Anyone who seriously demonstrates loyalty to their loved ones and family are chewed out (ex. Meadow's behaviour towards The sister of Jackie Jr at his funeral). It's like religion in a way. You need a bunch of nutcase ideologues to reclaim XYZ monastery or whatever and then you have a bunch of literal Borgias running Christendom. Or whatever The Prophet of Peace did with that prepubescent girl.
Dont know if is truth or not, but I have some friends living in ljubljana, slovenia where Zizek has his residence, and they saw him couple of times in some coffe shops talking, and they said he has no ticks, he speaks totaly normal whitout tics... I dont know, they said that he does it like to be more pecurial, charismatic... I still like him, I just telling what I heard
@Branko Milankovic this reminds me of a comment I once read below a video of an interview in which Žižek was speaking French. The person pointed out that he wasn't ticking as much in the interview, and I think it was also suggested that he doesn't tick as much at home in Slovenia, either. It seems that perhaps it's having to conduct so much of his public speaking in English - one of the five languages that Žižek speaks - that causes him this problem (or at least exacerbates it.) I can't say for certain if this is true or not, but that's what I heard.
I believe in my mind. In my soul. Connect me with power un knowing. God * iam with Islamic religion. Which means I like. It's true I don't know to much about region at all. I am for science but believe spiritual make me feel better. Religion it is philosophy. Like others we read or followed. *JBTito was diplomatic smart leader.
Zizek🙏🏻😊, don’t we , people in immigrants of heroes👍🏻? Didn’t the heroes looking down or looking down upon us, civilians, your stood, emporium’s on breaking law’s and freedom on guns’ personal to protect your emotional😊, how’s?
It seems pertinent, given the imminent debate, to point out the similarities between Zizek's idea here of belief without belief and Jordan Peterson's religious position. I'm aware that won't be the topic but it would be an area with enough agreement to create an interesting discussion.
Peterson is offering a "judeo-christian" , clero-fascist version of "neglected" ideology You are right there. this is my response to a commenter a few posts above : MrDeicide1 @Robert Stan No It's exactly the Belonging he speaks of You belong, you are accepted in a group, society, by paying lip-service to some ideology, even though you don't believe in it, you know none of the people you associate with believe in it, and you know the ideologues don't believe in it. As long as you're left alone in your private life, and to go on with your business, who cares it's a fake ideology? A corruption of value system, as a way of life, if you ask me. He's a privileged caste, and has no understanding of what that kind of society degenerates into. What kind of people it produces, social reality, abuses of authority.... Even after witnessing a decade of stone age wars in his region/country/neighborhood....
@@MrDeicide1 I find the idea that Peterson is a fascist to be hilarious. You cannot listen to what he says in good faith and come away with that interpretation.
@@eurysthenes881 Yes I can, listen in good faith, and I Have come away with that , obvious, conclusion It's clear as day It saddens me that you find the idea hilarious I guess I'll just have to be sad about you
Yugoslavia don’t exist anymore,it was federation of six republic,with different people ,different religion and so on.....There is/was not Yugoslavian nationality even though some people used to declare themselves as Yugoslav .
@@mirjanamilosavljevic4261 everything depends on how deep you want to go, if you want to use science ethnic groups wouldn't exist, nor religious groups,............ everything depends on your views on the world, i can consider myself as Serbian, Yugoslavian, Bosnian, Montenegrin, in the same time and you can t prove me wrong, even by DNA you don t actually get the clear result
I really liked the joke but I think there is something empowering about being told pure lies just because of their potential to serve a common purpose. But unlike my fellow Yugoslav here I think it serves an emancipatory purpose and he himself once quoted some guy saying that only the radical heresy can save what's good about religion. I'm not a Christian but I grew up as one and even though I do not believe it I was sometimes tempted to become a priest just so that I can reclaim the truth about the philosophy that was used to oppress me as a homosexual.
That sort of urge lost it's sense nowadays. One that was raped, became rapist. Your power is in incline. Priests have an urge to come out of closet. Going back to "lies serving common purpose": It' all about a fear. All evil comes from fear.
Oh my god, this was one of the most infuriating things to watch because what he talked about was really interesting but the nasal sounds are simply unbearable.
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I loved growing up in our liberal soft communist Yugoslavia. It was certainly worth living in the real experiment confederate state of different religious groups coexisting in relative peace for almost half of century.
Yeah Coexisting peacefully
Might as well say it to Bosniaks and Albanians
Najbolji od svih svjetova,samoupravljanje ,to je bila ekonomska demokratija.
Zizek is the most unconventional genius around. His way of articulating his thoughts, and his intents are so unorthodox, and non-lateral, that it goes over my head until you have that "uhhhuh moment(s)"
Cocaine
magina23 Not that it matters, but strictly out of curiosity, do you really believe that he does all of his lectures and interviews on cocaine, rather that suffering from [non drug induced] nervous tics?
Cause I’ve put a pretty decent amount of white girl up my nose over the years, and I’ve NEVER been that skeeted out.
johnnyscifi non-lateral or non-linear?
@@dethkon It's funny to me that the people who say they're coke induced tics are just showing they've likely never even seen stims IRL.
Adding to that, Zizek has spoken about his Tourette's in the past. It's not even funny anymore.
I think it is related to his Lacanian training, maybe a way of illustrating the truth behind the concept of afterwardness
Nervous ticks and so on.
very humorous from you, Gavin
If the intention here was to create a sarcastic tone, then I think you should lighten up a bit. Well, hopefully your view of the jokes have changed after two or so years.
I thought this was rude but then when I heard him say it himself I burst out laughing loll
We've been gifted extra tics this time
Zizek is running out of steam, of ideas, but is not running out of tics.
@@aleksandrailic8456 But tickets for his freak show are more than 1000 $.
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HAHA this made me laugh to the point of crying
People collect the strangest things.
This guy is like a clock, he won't stop ticking ...
Great that it doesn't stop him from presenting public lectures
Never shake Slavoj’s hand
My uncle Branislav was born in Titoslavia. When we were children he was Yugoslavian, as teenagers...he had become Serbian, back then when i wasnt nearly as educated on the topic, i always found it strange that all of a sudden, my uncle was from a new country...
Your uncle was always Serb ,it will be more correct to say Serb from Yugoslavia,yes we all had Yugoslav passports,ID ......officially we ,from all six republics of former Yugoslavia were Yugoslavs .
Yugoslavia literally means South Slavs Country. So it was a unity of 3 south slavic ethnic groups: Serbs, Croats and Slovenians.
@@ToyoSoarer a couple more ethnic groups you're missing...
@@tariqcolakovic4556 No, I'm not. Yugoslavia was formed in 1918 as unity of Serbs, Croats and Slovenians. Today, yes, there are more ethnic groups. But then, those were just the geographical names.
@@tariqcolakovic4556 Bosniaks are converted catholic Croats and orthodox Serbians. Faith doesn’t change your ethnicity. Except if they slept with Turks which makes them less Slavic due to Turks being Turkic.
0:59 Super rare double ear scratch. Majestic
Yo, this is the first time in a long time that i laughed about one of his moves. :D
LMAO
Življenje je pripomoček. Lep pozdrav. Miloš
I lived in Belgrade for a year. My wife's family came from there. She grew up in Yugoslavia during her childhood, while her parents were Yugoslavs for life. Or so they thought. And though the current administration is some kind of throwback to a time when people thought Serbia would be a great regional power, many people in that city are nostalgic for the days of Yugoslav socialism. Speaking as an American I found it difficult to understand. But their continuing anger at the 90s bombing campaign, and the relics of buildings left in ruins as remembrance, that's hard to not understand. People are still pissed about that. Zizek is not wrong. Many people there, especially those old enough to have lived in Yugoslav socialism, are fond of those memories and indignant at what has come since.
Shitocracy, religion, and crapitalism were Forced upon eastern europe, by massive CIA operations
Sure they wanted democratization, but they didn't want what the west forced on them, which is clero-fascism...
MrDeicide1 I don’t think they wanted capitalism but the neighbors that were getting massacred by Serbs needed assistance fighting them. That’s for sure.
Hahahaha as a american i see why you dont understand
But one of reasons why serbians are so "nostalgic" is because they were tyrannical rulers who forced all the resources and money into their capital, Belgrade
Thats why they miss yugoslavia, not because it was awesome under socialism, it was actually averagely bad for everyone
Now its even worse, but thats because of all the bad policies and yugoslavia did back in time, we havr to pay their depts now
@@Bleilock1 oh well,speaking out from your ass is easy.Slovenia got out from Yugoslavia with up to date modern nuclear plant and Gorenje,Planika and much of IT from Yugoslavia,they were in font of Greece,Portugal and Ireland in economy in 90.Croatia was equal to Serbia and only who can say itwas bad for them was maybe Bosnia and Macedonia.But maybe.
@@TheRadivoje hahahaha and you tell me that i speak out of my ass
Slovenia got out of yugoslavia in such way because thry didnt have to return foreign debt that tito, yugoslavia (serbia) has made over the years
90% of the dept waa split between croatia and serbia
They didnt even have to repay the reparations, plus half od that nuclear plant is croatian (talking about power produced) it will close soon to beacuae they cant produce anymore nuclear waste
And second part is prolly your serbian propaganda, everyone had it bad, serbia was just one huge manipulator, ruining other countries in yugoslavia by centralization
And in 90s they had (and still do to this day) have piss poor economy compared to croatia, and slovenia for you guys is western europe, as you have said it yourself
So yea, serbia aint the dreamland which can conquer the world, the way you guys learn in your schools
Zizek: "so yeah it was a cardboard cutout of a political ideology that made up Yugoslavia"
The comments: "zomg another tic omg a tic ong guys did you SEE THAT TIC omg so blessed BY TICS WOW SO TIC"
Yeah man idk the first time I watched a zizek video I thought those comments were sort of funny but they’re soooo tiresome, you’d think people were watching this just for the tics
In the words of Tim Heidecker, he doesn't want the thoughts from his brain coming out of his nose. Makes sense.
Oh sorry to hear that, hope everything is cool between you.
Zizek's greatest flaw is that he's immensely self-loathing and dismissive of his Yugoslav history and identity. Yugoslavia's ideology of Titoism and Non-Alignment is what elevated her to the status of global power in the aftermath of the Tito-Stalin split, and had inspired Gaddafi's Third International Theory and Deng's foreign policy. The reason why the ideology never had to be taken seriously by the Yugoslavs is because of how integrated it was in the Yugoslav daily and cultural mainstream, it was effective to the point where it felt as if it was not there while being omnipresent.
Absolutely. It was a third position that lasted much longer than Fascism and it pisses off commies who pretend not to understand Tito, and often don't while whining about him betraying their socialism.
I can say that the same occurred in india. It doesn't take a second before people trash the NAM before realising its larger potential to become the first ASEAN with an ideological project countering the West. Though, as for India, it was opportunistic with the Third World due its domestic politics.
Absolutely absurd to take pride in inspiring fucking Gaddafi and Deng. Gaddafi was an anti-communist and Islamist, Deng was a capitalist roader who returned free-market capitalism to China.
@@numenoreaneternity6682 it’s not universally applicable, nor should it be. The communist movement is not non-aligned, it is not exclusive to the imperial periphery or “third world”. It is no “third position”. There is a communist, revolutionary movement and a capitalist, counterrevolutionary reaction. Any appeal to bourgeois nationalists in any country or to the idea of “national sovereignty” (an absurd claim for anyone who recognizes that class struggle knows no nations) is a counterrevolutionary appeal.
@@numenoreaneternity6682 “moral supremacy” just call yourself a liberal man
Watching with captions on elevates the greatness of this video to a whole new level
What genuinely I think is, when people talk about the good times in Yugoslavia, it was actually the part when Tito was alive and until his death in 1980. Or to be more precise they talk about it when we look the things from today until 1982/early 1983 when IMF came in. It is silly to say that Yugoslav left believed in miracles, but they actually do. It's a rather fun and also ironic because it is what it actually is, Tito was a miracle, way ahead of its time and after him no one could actually take the same momentum and the same level of charisma that he had. There was couple of people that was actually close to that same level of skills like he was, for example there was Dzemal Bijedic. But as many of those "prodigies" they either passed away early or had, if you'd ask me an "accident" which followed death of course. Its kinda confusing to wrap around your mind when it comes to these things, but yeah...
Tito’s biggest mistake was dying
Nostalgia for the era of Socialism is greater in the former Yugoslav states than anywhere else.
@@gaiusjulius7538 and I understand why. Slovenia has a biggest debt than all of the republics of former country, Croatia is selling its islands to rich germans, my lovely Bosnia being torn apart even to this day between the nationalist presidents, Serbia is well gonna have trouble since that emotional president of theirs wants to put his head in both west and east asses simultaneously brings well, that what happens now in Serbia. Montenegro also has issues due to religion/politics. Macedonia is well either greek, serbian or bulgarian, during Titos time no one dared to say those things. Kosovo is a product of serbian mismanaged politics, albanians are different, they were different always but again Tito comes to play by giving a bit of autonomy and many good things there, even university with Albanian language, so even they liked it there also. In the end, I believe if politics in the 90s were more honest and more focused on anything else besides war, example making some kind of con-federation or even some kind of a trade union with all of republics, I'd work for minimal wage of 1500€ with all of the rights of a normal every day human being. Not move out from these parts to other countries that offer some kind of future.
@@jtothed8575 that opinion is like a two edged sword. I mean yes, Tito was one of a kind, that happenes very rarely in the world. His life was literal war and suffering, hence two WW and losing of his little daughter. But yet he, after he came to power, after the first purge ofc, pushed for peace and for pretty much everything what happened in Yugoslavia until his death and around 7 years after his death. After Tito's death in 1980, the single position of president was divided into a collective presidency where representatives of each republic would essentially form a committee where the concerns of each republic would be addressed and from it, collective federal policy goals and objectives would be implemented. The head of the collective presidency was rotated between representatives of the republics, plus two autonomous provinces of Kosovo and Vojvodina. So you had, 8 grown people, educated ones plus their administrations from each republic to work together to sky rocket the country into first world. But no, couple of dumbasses decided what they decided, and now we that were born during the wars, no matter of our religion, nationality, had to move out of that sick society that is former Yugoslav countries today. At least I can proudly say thank God for Tito, because he at least gave good life for my parents, and we (my generation), we're gonna manage somehow, scattered around the whole world. Nationalism or that so called patriotism talks about how home and country are most important, yet we were never more far away from those same countries, that we are today, some of us, but in short future we're gonna be the majority.
@@jtothed8575 His biggest mistake was not readying a reputable heir.
What he didn't tell you is that in the last two odd decades of Socialist Yugoslavia, or more specifically since the 1974. constitution - each of the 6 constituent republics had its own state security organization - which was FAR more powerful and influential in that republic than any other or indeed the increasingly marginalized federal state security organization. It was the condition from the West in order to obtain loans which kept the little Yugoslav socialist paradise afloat for a while. The purpose was, of course to create a tool with which the West could play on internal Yugostlav conflicts in order to ensure obedience and payments. When a few of those organizations became less than cooperative, the remaining, cooperative ones received support from the West to secede...
Consequences of that were, that ordinary people were able to take loans, and because of inflation, they only had to pay back peanuts... and the other one was the inevitable end of Yugoslavia, and with that, the market has completely changed, some companies literally had lost 90% of the market. Some analysts claim, Yugoslavia should always have been a confederation, and I do think they are right.
What all Stalinist, Ustasha, No-Liberal, and Chetnik revisionists have in common is their desire to spread slanderous revisionism about Yugoslavia, but not to digress. The only problem was the way the monetary policy was managed, especially during the oil crises in the 70s and 80s. But this could have easily been fixed with a pegged currency. But when Ante Markovic did that in 1990, it was too late - as he had “nationalists” working against him such as Milosevic, sabotaging the central bank by taking out loans and giving them to their constituents as gifts for votes, while at the same time printing money in insane quantities - causing another series of hyperinflation. Not to mention all services such as free healthcare, education, and so on were cut. All this is under the subversions of the IMF. What kept Yugoslavia existing was its superior exporting industry, and cornering the infrastructure-building industry in the totality of the Third World.
Historically speaking, whenever a united South Slavic state would be formed - and at the expense of the geopolitical interests of some Great European Powers, those states were destroyed by foreign, Western powers, and incidentally, the latter would always utilize fringe, ultranationalist organizations as subsidiaries and as vassals and assets naturally subservient to Western economic and geopolitical interests. Also, Tito was not a dictator, he was democratically elected president, the greatest statesman of the Cold War era, and one of the greatest statesmen of the 20th century, and unlike Wilhelm and Hitler, two textbook representatives of German policies of war, devastation, and untold suffering, Tito didn't cause the death of up to 70 million people in but a single century, and he certainly didn't cause irreparable damage to the whole of Europe, but brought much-needed stability to the continent, stability which was, yet again, undone by a German statesman - Helmut Kohl, whose government was openly hostile to Yugoslavia and made sure to cause the most destructive war on European soil since WW2, a war which the Germans have started as well.
@@dingdingdingdiiiiing Yes, and those companies lost 90% of the market due to IMF reforms, not Yugoslavia's socialist market administration.
@@numenoreaneternity6682 You greatly oversimplified the end of Yugoslavia. Coming from a Croat.
@@numenoreaneternity6682 Kinda forgot abt this but yeah, what the west doesn't understand that we south slavic people are different ethnic groups, with different religions, beliefs, cultures, languages (yes pal we dont have the same languages, a slovene can't understand a croat and vice versa etc, only serbs, bosniaks and croats can understand each other) and us united actually doesn't help us at all, germany and italy for example wanted to keep yugoslavia a thing and actively tried making it a puppet and force it into joining axis. as we all know that went badly. economically it doesnt really help us neither because majorities always prevail in nations like yugoslavia, serbs used the country to exploit other member republics for resources while actively pursuing a policy of "serbification", it used it's status to also deny autonomy to kosovo and vojvodina. my point is that yugoslavia didn't fall apart because of "western influence" (infact the west supported serbia in trying to take back croatia and slovenia since they were highly supportive of yugoslavia) but instead 50 years of multiethnical tensions that finally caused a war after much needed liberalization that tito violently denied. (check up UGBA, the yugoslav secret police which killed tons of people especially in germany). Tito wasn't democratically elected neither lmfao he was an authoritarian dictator, softer then some in the east but still a dictator mate, and his actions like in bleiburg just prove this. yugoslavia was bound to fail
I was going to comment on nervous ticks but then I realized this is RUclips. There are tens of thousands of other spectacular visuals to watch and comment on... But the idea that ideology is a primitive ritual with absolutely no value is here today 11/11. People will actually stop for a full 60 seconds to remember the "heroes" of WWI. No one really give a shit. No one "remembers" any of it because no one living today was there, but still. Everyone will "remember" to stop as if their doing so will make any difference to anything ever. Thanks Slavoy - you are needed to point out our irrationality. Tick and all.
Like when someone who takes Rush Limbaugh seriously- a 'true believer'- calls up. Rush might be polite but his genuine response is cold, he acts bored and cuts him off in short order- 'another idiot who misses the point'- which is to parody ''pointy-headed' arguments as a kind of ludicrous, bizarre Liberal for the sake of laughs, not to believe in the "Conservative, Republican Cause' but simulate a belief in order generate attention from suckers for the sake of advertising revenues. It's a distinction 'Left' radio doesn't get and their ratings show it. 'God Bless America' refers to the greatest of a country where you can get rich fooling suckers and be despised by millions of people who can't do a thing to stop you, the pinnacle of 'freedom'.
It is synnonym to the abilene paradox - that descisions are taken despite everyone disagreeing with them.
Anyone knows a book where this is explained in detail? I'm writing a paper on Self-management in Yugoslavia.
“The spider, spinning his web for the unwary fly. The blood is the life Mr. Renfield”
It is a negative secular pragmatist ideology: "Why think about the ideology/lie just acted it out. Be pragmatic, no worries, just make sure that something does take place: make things happen" etc.
"THE COPENHAGUE GUY"
Only one minute at the end of the video he references Yugoslavia. But i would like for him to expand on that point, with examples and illustrations. I just don't get how it was by what he was saying.
The thing is, if you really took it seriously, you would notice that nothing actually wored the way it was supposed to.
Misleading title is misleading.
What’s misleading about it?
Life is life.
@@iwouldprefernotto49 Everything.
The regime back here persecuted primary nationalists (as they would say separists), but also Marxists who wanted more Marxism less Titoism. Goli Otok was probably worse than any Russian gulag and it was in the first round of prisoners filled only with Stalinists and other Communists who weren't on the line. Later came the Croatian nationalists and liberals, when the captured Communists literary from the nothing build the prison. Tito was a mass murderer, just like Stalin or Pol Pot.
@@PP266 goli otok was not worse than gulag,and Tito didnt killed his own citizens for no reason and if we compare numbers USSR killed more citizens than all of the men who died in WW2 in yugoslavia combined so i wouldnt say he was the mass murder.Those who were imprisoned in goli otok were mostly just political prisoners and this kept country and govorment stabile and people were happy.
People, how do I enjoy listening to this man. 😊
You do not need to look at him!!! You need to listen to him!!!
Long live Žižek!!!
Unfortunatly the yugoslav model of communism didn't survive. Tito's yugoslavia was the only communist country with a human face. With a yugoslav passport, u could travel the world, something unheard of if u came from hungary or poland. Growing up in germany, i had yugoslav friends and workmates. We could go to yugoslavia visa free. But u could also sense the underlying hostilities between the different ethnic groups, and foresee the sad outcome of the yugoslav experiement.
Yugoslavia would not have broken up if not for the huge sums of money flowing in from the US, West Germany and Saudi Arabia, to finance separatist groups and terrorist organisations.
@@gaiusjulius7538 Ah yes the Western powers really feared the mighty Yugoslavia where you couldn't drive your car on odd days because there was no oil in the country. A country run by an autocrat that jailed any opposition and had political dissenters assassinated in foreign countries. A country based on IMF loans and debt they could never pay off and spiral into hyperinflation because of it's socialist ideology.
Truly a power feared by the west so that's why intelligence agencies destroyed it and DEFINITELY NOT because it was a corrupt socialist state defaulting on it's loans, with increasing hyperinflation and historic rates of unemployment that had it's personality cult dictator die during the same period the Berlin wall fell in '89 as a result of the fall of communism and the revolutionary wave spread to every republic in a spring of nations which wanted independence from "Greater Serbia" in all but name. Stop parroting your stupid coping mechanism ideas.
@@melkiorkrleza6008 *citations needed*
@@melkiorkrleza6008
Just open a book and read how all former Yugoslav countries had their debt rise from 13 billion in 1988 to 184 FUCKING BILLON in 2010 with precious democracy that foreign banks gently lend us and you're telling us that crap...
For real never speak again you are an idiot.
@@Naeinsengimnida I'm not saying today our jokes of states are off any better but jerking each other off about Yugoslavia being some Utopia is just pathetic. Everybody likes to talk about how we had "factories", factories that did what exactly? Extremely unproductive jokes that placated apparatchiks and political yes men with made up positions while their greatest export was the Yugo 45 to other poor eastern european countries. The shipyards that could only function in a socialist system, as soon as the market opened up they instantly collapsed. Their socialist system functioned while the the west and east needed to fight for influence because of the cold war, as soon as Tito died it was over and with communism collapsing the outcome was inevitable. A country with political prisons for dissenters that sent it's agents to murder people abroad...
The uncomfortable truth is as similar as we are and as much as I don't personally hate everyone is that we were simply never brothers. We were under different spheres of influence and Croatians and Serbs were at each others throats back into the kingdom of Yugoslavia with serbs going as far as to assassinate Stjepan Radić in the parliament, Gavrilo Princip assassinating the archduke because he would've integrated Bosnia under the Croatian crown, Croatian ustaše along with IMRO killing Alexander during his state visit to France. We fought each other in world war 1 and world war 2, and not to mention all the crimes we did to each other during the 2nd one that were just used as fuel for nationalism during the 90s. If we were "brothers" the conflict simply wouldn't have happened.
The opportunists that led our countries during it simply let the people have what they REALLY wanted. That's what most really don't want to confront themselves with.
This guy is brilliant
Zizek is truly one of a kind
Slavoj "shower once a month and coke once an hour" Zizek
Hahahahha
And the biggest irony of them all is - people who bullshit Yugoslavia are at least 90% of those who weren't even alive back then. And those same people laugh at the elderly who did experience Yugoslavia, and that know much more about it than us.
Because you are saying this is how i feel about Yugoslavia and you make up things to make Yugoslavia look better, and then we show you facts and you get angry, because those facts shows opposite from what you wanted Yugoslavia to be.
In my opinion Yugoslavia was a mistake, and the worst part is that the same mistake was repeated more then once.
Yugoslavia wasn't a mistake, we were.
The elderly only like Yugoslavia because it was a conservative and nationalist dictatorship.
Look at the data, YU was one of the poorest countries
@@Beq4tb,ljudi su posjedovali svari od vrjednost,kuce stanove,zemlju ,Jugoslavoja nije bila potrosacko drustvo vec se razvijala organski prema potrebama stanovnistva ,a ne profitne utakmice korporacija
He is so a great Genius and funny with his nose,
I can watch him, without listening.
Ha. Ha. Kind regards. Miloš
He sounds like mr.snuffleupagus
Cheers and Friends were filmed in front of audiences, laughter wasn't canned.
Have you ever seen how they do it? If you did, you would understand a meaning of television.
he really loves that Niels Bohr joke lmao
I don't understand how can so many people that listen to Slavoj Žižek (hard person to stumble upon on the internet) say the same thing over and over again - coke-head, man loves his dope, intelligent addict etc.
kopiledon it’s a sinus problem he refuses to get fixed
@@quinbrady he should. Sounds unbearable
4:23 most important part pf the video
Brilliant!
0:51 “a wonderful joke about Niels Bohr (you know, the... Copenhagen guy...)” this is killing me
Same in the Soviet Union & the countries that were modeled after it as well (and is still today). They didn't want their population to really be well versed in socialism & capitalism, but to just accept the way things are & assume what the state says is the truth, just some hand picked quotes the govt highlights from theorists & revolutionaries but other than that, not dig deep into it. In some ways Yugoslavia was actually more socialist than the Soviet Union, China, etc. but it still wasn't fully there.
Totally disagree! Socialism thrives on education. Would never be born without it.
@@sextempiric7137 Also collages in US are the core of socialism there, and people who defend the old way are regular folks. So about education, it is quite opposite. You educate yourself about history of Imperialism, political and economical forces and it is clear who is on the side of progress and who is opposing it. If you have free capitalism you will end up from where you started and that is feudalism.
So are we "well versed" now? Political ignorance is a generalized phenomenon, and the absence of a "government that tells you how to think and makes you accept things are fine just the way they are" is not enough to avoid it. We now have tons of free and universally accessible information on the Internet with only a click, and this lack of political culture is even more shocking than in the former "socialist" countries, or even in previous generations of inhabitants of "capitalist" countries. In the United States, which is the world's leading exporter of ideological products for all tastes (products ranging from the "alt right" mess to postmodern identity politics, which are basically two sides of the same coin), many people live and breathe convinced that Biden (and H. Clinton, and their party), Canada, the Scandinavian countries, Putin, Maduro, Soros, Bezos or international finance capital are "communists" (or socialists, or Marxists, because any term is equally valid to put a face and a name on their metaphysical idea of the Devil). Is this the result of decades of propaganda during and after the Cold war? Undoubtedly. But if "the most educated generation and with greater access to the information in history" is not only intellectually disarmed in the face of this propaganda, but also uncritically swallows it with more enthusiasm than their parents and grandparents, this really forces us to rethink what kind of preparation and information they do receive.
@@mpetkovic26 Do you not realise that you essentially said "the working masses are reactionaries whilst the educated managerial class tend to be socialists" This is a great example of how low class consciousness has fallen, this is anathema to even the basics of marxisms!
It is clear: if a worker used his own vocabulary to express his alienation on a podium you would consider him an uncouth populist. Yet someone of the managerial class comes up and explains how terrible it is that things are the way they are and how the working man needs to be emancipated trough technical jargon that flatters your intellectual sensibilities you would be saying: hurrah! A good progressive!
isn't this what Adam Curtis talks about in Hypernormalisation?
yes. mark fisher also wrote along similar lines in his book 'capitalist realism'. it's kind of a real observation about the moment we're living in
Hi, I've just made the spanish subtitles for this. I would like to send them to you. Let me know if you are interested. It would be great to be able to spread among Spanish speakers.
What's his deal?
She sells seashells down by sea shore lol damn this dude is smart af but I just have to go to the comments every video for a great laugh
The thing is that that cynicallity, that refusal to believe is itself the biggest lie, the biggest mistake, the biggest illusion, the biggest belief in something that isn't, and cannot be real
“It was an ideology that worked on the condition that it was not taken seriously”…
What an outstanding encapsulation of what all ideologies are. Inflexibly strict adherence to any ideology is just extremism
I think his point was more that a person can state and even believe they are against a certain ideology (say, capitalism), but the real truth of their belief is hidden in their actions.
In other lectures, he goes as far as to say that modern ideology requires subjects not to take it seriously in order for it to function, like in the example of capitalism. As long as you buy Starbucks "ironically," as long as you deep-down feel that the latest trends are stupid, as long as you internally disavow what you externally participate in, then you are vindicated from self-criticism and can continue contradicting your beliefs with "moral impunity." Yet you are always revealing your true belief via your actions and habits.
One can shape their own reality this way, for better or for worse.
Why do we control that expression of power?
And so on
Zizek has now made me worry that I have taken some things too seriously. Extreme belief becomes crazy, be warned.
And what about "Goli otok"?
"...nervous tics and so on" XD
With this nose touching habit, I wonder how he survives through these covid-19 era
What real universe real college transfer tell me?
We all are free (worthless).
5:34 Sooo...don't no body take this seriously - it' wont work otherwise! 😂
This reminds me of how the mafia works - or at least, how media has made the mafia appear to me. You watch a show like the Sopranos and none of the head guys / capos / captains really believe in omerta or not touching made men or protecting the family of their deceased comrades. Tony has zero issue with icing (or sanctioning the icing of) people that should fall into a protected class. Big Pussy is one of Tony's friends and listen to how he talked to Sal about being a cop. Tony's own mother, sister, and uncle regularly conspire against him.
Anyone who really believes in the "family" is either new, naive (Adriana), removed from the action (Carmela), intoxicated (Chris), stupid (Lil Carmine), etc. Anyone who is a real gangster is absolutely cut throat - and if they're not, they're very willing to act like they are. It seems like a prerequisite for getting into power with these guys is finding a way to break their code without suffering repercussions. Anyone who seriously demonstrates loyalty to their loved ones and family are chewed out (ex. Meadow's behaviour towards The sister of Jackie Jr at his funeral).
It's like religion in a way. You need a bunch of nutcase ideologues to reclaim XYZ monastery or whatever and then you have a bunch of literal Borgias running Christendom. Or whatever The Prophet of Peace did with that prepubescent girl.
Too much movies I guess
The only movie in the world shot during the war that the movie was about - Lepa sela lepo gore ; Pretty village pretty flame. Warm recommendation.
Can someone hand this man a handkerchief
Yugoslavia? I am here for the comments.
Not even the subtitles can understand this man speaking!
Thank you audience for laughing.
Im watching this in 2x speed and I can't stop laughing from his uncontrollable nose twitching.
Dont know if is truth or not, but I have some friends living in ljubljana, slovenia where Zizek has his residence, and they saw him couple of times in some coffe shops talking, and they said he has no ticks, he speaks totaly normal whitout tics... I dont know, they said that he does it like to be more pecurial, charismatic... I still like him, I just telling what I heard
@Branko Milankovic this reminds me of a comment I once read below a video of an interview in which Žižek was speaking French.
The person pointed out that he wasn't ticking as much in the interview, and I think it was also suggested that he doesn't tick as much at home in Slovenia, either.
It seems that perhaps it's having to conduct so much of his public speaking in English - one of the five languages that Žižek speaks - that causes him this problem (or at least exacerbates it.)
I can't say for certain if this is true or not, but that's what I heard.
Believe it or not, it was the best country in the world. Živjela Jugoslavija i svi Jugosloveni
I believe in my mind. In my soul. Connect me with power un knowing. God * iam with Islamic religion. Which means I like. It's true I don't know to much about region at all. I am for science but believe spiritual make me feel better. Religion it is philosophy. Like others we read or followed. *JBTito was diplomatic smart leader.
You can't be religious if you think positive about Tito. He transformed priests into police agents.
Sounds exactly like our liberalism today. If you take it to seriously, you see it for what it is and start opposing it.
He barely mentions where he grew up. Did I miss a beggar point.
Love or hate him , this man is speaking facts
Zizek🙏🏻😊, don’t we , people in immigrants of heroes👍🏻? Didn’t the heroes looking down or looking down upon us, civilians, your stood, emporium’s on breaking law’s and freedom on guns’ personal to protect your emotional😊, how’s?
This man
Kim Wipes ( 10-20 boxes) there, pleeease!!!
What does this have to do with Yugoslavia
Did you finish the video?
Watch the video.
It doesnt, just bland words without meaning or conclusion, like every other philosopher
This thumbnail though
Free Julian Assange
This guy spits a lot I guess...
Sylvester the cat as a philosophy professor.😂
If he catches corona virus millions will be in danger hahahahahah
Fun fact : Lord Buddha almighty was against rituals precisely for this reason Zizek named.
All rituals are deceitful.
3:07
Relax Slavoj ... the world is yours..... snifffffff
It seems pertinent, given the imminent debate, to point out the similarities between Zizek's idea here of belief without belief and Jordan Peterson's religious position. I'm aware that won't be the topic but it would be an area with enough agreement to create an interesting discussion.
Peterson is offering a "judeo-christian" , clero-fascist version of "neglected" ideology
You are right there.
this is my response to a commenter a few posts above :
MrDeicide1
@Robert Stan
No
It's exactly the Belonging he speaks of
You belong, you are accepted in a group, society, by paying lip-service to some ideology, even though you don't believe in it, you know none of the people you associate with believe in it, and you know the ideologues don't believe in it.
As long as you're left alone in your private life, and to go on with your business, who cares it's a fake ideology?
A corruption of value system, as a way of life, if you ask me.
He's a privileged caste, and has no understanding of what that kind of society degenerates into.
What kind of people it produces, social reality, abuses of authority....
Even after witnessing a decade of stone age wars in his region/country/neighborhood....
@@MrDeicide1 I find the idea that Peterson is a fascist to be hilarious. You cannot listen to what he says in good faith and come away with that interpretation.
@@eurysthenes881
Yes I can, listen in good faith, and I Have come away with that , obvious, conclusion
It's clear as day
It saddens me that you find the idea hilarious
I guess I'll just have to be sad about you
is he inhaling Coke? possible
Interesting !
What is going on with his nose?
Too much cocaine
@Solve Everything There's way too much fluid, must be some sort of condition.
2:04
C-C-C- COMBO!!!
My favorite: 10x sniff, sniff, sniff, touch, touch
I just hear shshshshshh
Well, actually yugoslavian doesnt take to srrious to believe in their country :(
Yugoslavia don’t exist anymore,it was federation of six republic,with different people ,different religion and so on.....There is/was not Yugoslavian nationality even though some people used to declare themselves as Yugoslav .
@@mirjanamilosavljevic4261 everything depends on how deep you want to go, if you want to use science ethnic groups wouldn't exist, nor religious groups,............ everything depends on your views on the world,
i can consider myself as Serbian, Yugoslavian, Bosnian, Montenegrin, in the same time and you can t prove me wrong, even by DNA you don t actually get the clear result
Genius coce-head
Is he snorting coke???? Those ain't no ticks
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Mate, lay of the gear aiiii
when people comment abt how they or their parents loved yugoslavia they should say which part they came from
Just like China nowadays
He should not be allowed to talk, it is unbearable to listen him.
Let him put everything on paper and publish it.
And so on, and so on.
The substitute detect it as Dutch xd
I really liked the joke but I think there is something empowering about being told pure lies just because of their potential to serve a common purpose. But unlike my fellow Yugoslav here I think it serves an emancipatory purpose and he himself once quoted some guy saying that only the radical heresy can save what's good about religion. I'm not a Christian but I grew up as one and even though I do not believe it I was sometimes tempted to become a priest just so that I can reclaim the truth about the philosophy that was used to oppress me as a homosexual.
That sort of urge lost it's sense nowadays. One that was raped, became rapist. Your power is in incline. Priests have an urge to come out of closet. Going back to "lies serving common purpose": It' all about a fear. All evil comes from fear.
@@sextempiric7137 I fully agree. I'd have become a priest otherwise...
Der hat voll die störung mit seiner nase slavjojiiiiii
Why does he keep blowing his nose????
Oh my god, this was one of the most infuriating things to watch because what he talked about was really interesting but the nasal sounds are simply unbearable.
It's like saying Stephen Hawking is smart but you can't listen to it due to the atrocious robotic voice. I mean, what the hell, grow up :)
grow up, its not his fault.
this guy owns a tesla, idgaf what he's saying about yugo