Quad Cortex vs Kemper vs Helix - A Quick Blindfold Tone Comparison

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  • Опубликовано: 30 окт 2024

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  • @lance134679
    @lance134679 2 года назад +185

    You guys could try doing a live premiere of a pre-recorded video like this, which would open up the live chat. Then you could see people giving their feedback and making their guesses in real time.

  • @gitarowydominik
    @gitarowydominik 2 года назад +225

    My biggest take away is that ToneJunkie didn't do a great job to make them sound similar. :o

    • @Nicolae8607
      @Nicolae8607 2 года назад +27

      ToneJunk😄...very poor job

    • @KenGotGuitar
      @KenGotGuitar 2 года назад +8

      Agreed

    • @basdenchris
      @basdenchris Год назад +13

      I kinda feel the same. When I bought my Kemper, I got way into his profile packs. Bought a bunch of them. After a while though I started gravitating toward other 3rd party profile makers and even my own homemade ones, despite his having “pro” mics and outboard gear and cool vintage amps. Lots of people like them but I just kinda became “meh” about it

    • @Tonicstud
      @Tonicstud Год назад +19

      ToneJunkie are the worst profiles out there

    • @shadrackperez7325
      @shadrackperez7325 Год назад +1

      Right…. 😒

  • @wbfaulk
    @wbfaulk 2 года назад +23

    Captain: To be consistent, let's call them Green, Red, and Blue.
    Also Captain: A, B, and C.
    Also also Captain: 1, 2, and 3.

    • @andertons
      @andertons  2 года назад +10

      😂😂😂 I realised that when I watched it back.

  • @AndrewSacoman
    @AndrewSacoman Год назад +15

    I own the Kemper and really enjoy it. I was most surprised at how great the Helix sounded. All excellent options. We are spoiled for choice, us guitar players have never had it so good.

    • @TmonkeyWins
      @TmonkeyWins Год назад +1

      Honestly, I'm still about half way through this video as I type this but I own a Helix and the sheer amount of tonal options I have with this unit is absolutely insane. I have my helix wired into an Orange Pedal Baby in a Marshall JCM 900 1960A Cab and it sounds so freaking good. In addition to that I have it wired into my Focusrite for recording and it just simplifies every single part of the guitar AND BASS tone stacking process. Couldn't agree more with your statement that we have it so good nowadays

  • @deeberdave8190
    @deeberdave8190 2 года назад +13

    Thanks guys! I'm a Helix owner, and I love it! Have never played on a QC or Kemper, but after watching tons of videos on all the units you confirmed the consensus of them all! QC captures have more push, Kemper profiles are accurate to original amp, and Helix needs to be tweeked to sound great! As many have said, all are great units and each have plusses, and minuses! If we all played on the same Twin Reverb, we'd all sound different, not better, not worse! Thanks again!

    • @JP-is9sc
      @JP-is9sc 7 месяцев назад

      But i think that with a little bit of tweaking on the helix, you can replicate any of the sounds of the other two.

  • @unitednihilists
    @unitednihilists 2 года назад +146

    Man, Digital John has come into his own as a presenter.

    • @davidwilliams6525
      @davidwilliams6525 2 года назад +7

      Just thinking exactly the same thing.

    • @jhonfelo
      @jhonfelo 2 года назад +13

      Plus he's one hell of a player, I guess that helps too

    • @derekwoods8199
      @derekwoods8199 Год назад +2

      And a damn good player as well. It’s nice to hear some different runs and chord progressions

  • @hendanine
    @hendanine 2 года назад +29

    Anderton's managed to find a new spin on this. I've watched tons of comparison videos, and here is another one, but it is a new angle and really fun! Lee & crew still always get me to click.

  • @TheInsanityofGab
    @TheInsanityofGab 2 года назад +103

    I own a helix and I could pick it out of the 3 (it has the best spring reverb). Helix just released a bunch of new cabinets today to replace some of the old ones, so it might be interesting to try this again with some of the new cab models.

    • @WarrenPostma
      @WarrenPostma 2 года назад +11

      And their new cab models are more dynamic than the IRs are.

    • @GuitarKobe86
      @GuitarKobe86 Год назад +1

      Hi, I own a Helix too, which of all the spring reverb options do you use?

    • @jakestewartmusic
      @jakestewartmusic Год назад +4

      @@GuitarKobe86 I'm not the OP, but I like Hot Springs the best. IMO sounds most authentic before the amp model with the mix turned back quite a bit.

    • @jasonrhodes5034
      @jasonrhodes5034 Год назад +3

      meh the cabs were fine enough for the main stuff. L6 are killing it on the customization options we just got though....Im finally using my pedalboard like I used to do session boards. (stomp box bypass accross snapshots finally)

    • @wheresallthezombies
      @wheresallthezombies Год назад +1

      I have helix native and was always had “it’s ok and gets me by” feelings about it. Mostly in the feel side. The update with the new cabs really changed that. Now it’s my go to when I want to use an amp plugin.

  • @captainfruitbatify
    @captainfruitbatify 2 года назад +53

    Interesting timing given Line 6 have just today released a new firmware update (3.5) for the Helix that massively improves the built-in cab simulations. I assume the Helix tested here does not have the latest firmware - would be interesting to compare with the new cab simulations.

    • @StephaneBergeronPixelyzed
      @StephaneBergeronPixelyzed Год назад +4

      Yep! Firmware 3.50 is an absolute game changer for the Helix. Not tested here but it also has best effects of the 3 units IMO.

  • @chrisobrien9687
    @chrisobrien9687 Год назад +31

    helix owner here, I feel its virtually impossible to say one unit is overall better than another, for example the first tone on "amp" 3 was quite bright. I'm sure I could dial that out in an instant maybe by choosing a darker mic or adjusting mic placement, or by adding an eq block such as low/high cut, parametric eq. I haven't played on either Kemper or QC but I bet with enough time you could get all three to sound indistinguishable and great.

    • @Bridging_the_Political_Divide
      @Bridging_the_Political_Divide Год назад

      Yup. Really any high end unit today can sound amazing. 💯

    • @thisguy2973
      @thisguy2973 Год назад +1

      That’s exactly what a Line 6 owner would say lol
      In all seriousness, I’d choose the quad cortex just because I already like Neural DSP’s products. Line 6 has never been that company for me.

  • @nickwinkler8231
    @nickwinkler8231 2 года назад +5

    I think this really highlights how important the quality of the profile is.

  • @MrSpeed-lt8gr
    @MrSpeed-lt8gr 2 года назад +8

    Very happy that Mister Connearn has become such an integral part of the team. I have seriously considered one of these since I play direct about 90% of the time.

  • @chibisven
    @chibisven 2 года назад +8

    I'm commenting right before the reveal and have heard all the examples but don't know the results.
    They all sounded really good at different times but the thing that really stood out is that the capture on C sounded like it was done at a lower volume which left the fender sounding too clean and fizzy on the chapman, but really benefitted the Marshall sound and definitely worked with the soldano. Overall I feel like if I was buying blind I'd probably go with B... but, I don't buy blind and they're all really great sounding units. I also do use a helix as my primary gigging rig because I have to play on silent stages and have wanted to upgrade to the QC but honestly that's 99% about getting a smaller rig and not at all because the helix sounds "bad". TLDR: all were good.
    Now to push play and see how I like my answers. lol.

  • @iamthejshep
    @iamthejshep 2 года назад +5

    helix user here. genuinely liked the QC for all of these tones. the fender amp was a dead giveaway that C was the Kemper to my ears. Kempers have a really harsh top end on cleaner amps that just can't be missed. it's this weird sizzle that is far higher than where a guitar speaker would roll off. that said, I have always struggled to get the fender amp models to sound good in the helix, but I usually lean towards British amps anyways. cheers, boys! great video

    • @fisch723
      @fisch723 Год назад

      John Cordy recently released a new video dialing in a great Fender clean tone using the new cabs. Check it out.

  • @jonalexander8935
    @jonalexander8935 2 года назад +4

    HW @ Tone Junkie is the man.. Arshall Profile for the Kemper is a BEAST!! My go to rig for everything..

  • @mickeygiesbers8176
    @mickeygiesbers8176 2 года назад +12

    I mean as a Helix user (there I said it 😂) I’m very very happy with mine and have been for 5 years now, never let me down. That being said, I don’t believe in “better or worse” I think each one of these (and also Fractal) are for different people. Every musician has their own preference and that’s what’s great about living in a world with so much good gear =P

    • @Liam_Doherty_UK
      @Liam_Doherty_UK Год назад

      I’ve owned all the top modellers, but am sticking with the Quad Cortex. The captures are stunning, and the captures for my Engl & 5150 iii are spot on.
      That being said, the Engl simulation in my HX Stomp is excellent, and the HX’s effects are excellent.

    • @SixxMoo
      @SixxMoo Год назад

      @@Liam_Doherty_UK is it also possible to profile your own amp with the quad cortex?

    • @Liam_Doherty_UK
      @Liam_Doherty_UK Год назад +1

      @@SixxMoo Yes:)

    • @SixxMoo
      @SixxMoo Год назад

      @@Liam_Doherty_UK well. now the QC is back on my Wishlist again haha

    • @mickeygiesbers8176
      @mickeygiesbers8176 Год назад +1

      @@Liam_Doherty_UK Yeah that's the thing, I'm not a profiler / capture guy, I have no good amps to capture anymore haha. But hey like I said, if it works for you, it works.

  • @wetcat833
    @wetcat833 2 года назад +19

    My choice was A with B a close second. I was terrified that C is the Helix as I own a Helix rack and they can sound thin if incorrectly dialled in. I'm relieved that I made the right choice for MY ears. I prefer the rack and remote foot switch form factor as well.

    • @jacksondoonan
      @jacksondoonan 2 года назад +4

      I had the EXACT same thoughts 😂

    • @outcoldish
      @outcoldish Год назад +1

      A was a helix

    • @wetcat833
      @wetcat833 Год назад

      @@outcoldish y
      Yep, got that,

  • @Chris-em4tc
    @Chris-em4tc 2 года назад +23

    I can honestly say, I preferred B almost the whole time, and I waited until the end. I own a Quad Cortex, so I’m happy haha. But really, as they said, all 3 units are exceptional and completely usable in every way. We’re at the point where there is no clear “better” choice among the high end modelers. It all comes down to preference.

    • @ChrisP3000x
      @ChrisP3000x 2 года назад +1

      "BETTER" IS (subjective and) BASED ON A "PREFERENCE".

    • @zerolight9420
      @zerolight9420 Год назад +1

      I liked the QC a lot too. I might pick one up. I've never gotten on with the Helix, but haven't tried in a few years. Pretty happy with my FM3, but would like to try the QC. Have owned the Kemper twice and had a love hate relationship with it. I'd like to have heard the FM3 in there too, Fractal are definitely one of the big players, but I get why Andertons only want to promote stuff they sell.

    • @a7xzombiekiller-130
      @a7xzombiekiller-130 Год назад

      Better can absolutely be objective…. Yes it can be subjective.
      But you wouldn’t say a car gets “better gas mileage” and it’s lower…. Because you prefer low gas mileage lol.

  • @void_snw
    @void_snw 2 года назад +13

    There's something I keep noticing - Helix presets are often *made* to sound boxy, and here it's likely the compressor post IR that does that job (but very often it's people trying to eliminate almost nonexistant "digital hiss" with insane high cuts), because Helix's top end is a bit weird due to the way it does gain on a lot of the older models (wish the marshalls would be re-done.. they desperately need it). And on the other hand, amp captures somehow never know what to do with more gain than what was modeled, so pedals are hit or miss into one.
    Would've liked to see an Axe FX in the mix, since that is Helix's direct competitor, and both sides of that argument have strong opinions about the other :p

    • @lorcanrowley133
      @lorcanrowley133 2 года назад

      I definitely got the boxy thing on the Soldano preset.

    • @jakestewartmusic
      @jakestewartmusic Год назад

      Agreed 100% on the Helix plexi models. The only one that sounds right to me is the Park 75, but with a LOT of tweaking to the stock settings.

    • @dpround
      @dpround Год назад

      Amp captures never know what to do with more gain than as captured because quite simply that information is not there. They know about less gain because when they capture they look at the response at all available signal levels.

  • @olafburgermann806
    @olafburgermann806 2 года назад +11

    You read my mind. Just researching for one of these at the moment. Shame Fractal Audio don't do retail sales as this would have been a great 4 way test.

  • @RonZabrocki
    @RonZabrocki Год назад +13

    I'm a Helix user and amazingly picked it everytime. It sounds a bit more "tame" than the others, but, it works incredibly in the studio. I find the the others sounded fantastic alone, but may be too overblown in the track.

    • @TmonkeyWins
      @TmonkeyWins Год назад

      I think that may be where it shines most as the others seem to rely on captures (I own a helix too and am not familiar with them personally) whereas the Helix allows you to dial in what you need where you need it when you need it

  • @oldmanzen6682
    @oldmanzen6682 2 года назад +28

    Surprised the Helix didn’t get much love (in terms of the voting for favourites). I’ve got one, and am constantly amazed at the sounds I can pull out of it.
    Great video. Enjoyed the format.

    • @bathstreetblues2588
      @bathstreetblues2588 2 года назад +2

      Me too, I gig with one, all styles, all venue sizes and it's impossible to tell the difference between it and my GM40. Feels incredibly good too

    • @prsmantse1
      @prsmantse1 2 года назад +3

      Plus they keep adding more features. I love my stomp. Best gear purchase that I've made in my 20 odd years of playing

    • @GusaRoli
      @GusaRoli 2 года назад +3

      I've got one years ago, and you just need a little time to dial up, and Helix just doing the sounds very well. Also Helix is a bit cheaper than the other ones .

    • @prsmantse1
      @prsmantse1 2 года назад +6

      @@GusaRoli if you still have it, line 6 dropped a huge update today. All new cabs. I can't wait to play around with them

    • @anomalousresult
      @anomalousresult 2 года назад +3

      Stomp xl plus the native plug in is amazing value for PC owners.

  • @XiyuYang
    @XiyuYang Год назад +5

    At this point it's not really about tone since all three can get dead-on tones, it's more about which workflow fits best for you. For me Helix integrates into my studio better than QC and Kemper so Helix is what I use.

  • @briietsai1997
    @briietsai1997 2 года назад +9

    I love to see you guys to a video on helix's new 3.5 update. maybe if this video had been reordered after the update, there would've been some very interesting results.

    • @androdid9249
      @androdid9249 2 года назад +2

      Agreed. At first, I thought this video was for the occasion of 3.5. The cab update may change everything, so there is almost no information for me in this video.
      I hope for a sequel!

  • @Inflames131
    @Inflames131 2 года назад +5

    the moment you played the helix one I knew which one it was already!! I personally own a helix LT and I love it! please make more videos like these and comparing different chains, maybe do a video where you have all running a metal rig, rock rock, etc! I think this will help show there versatility with each one!

  • @milanpanic3755
    @milanpanic3755 Год назад +8

    I have the quad cortex and I've played with a helix on some gigs, but I chose B - C - B. The tones on the quad cortex sounded the most pleasant in every amp, but I chose the Kemper on the Marshall profile, because it had the most marshally breakup. I have to note that the Helix had the best spring reverb on the deluxe reverb amp.

  • @anonbrae
    @anonbrae 2 года назад +7

    Given that it seems they can all be dialled in to sound very good, I then move to the effects and the range and quality of the Helix effects are second to none IMHO. The routing options on the Helix are also insanely flexible!

    • @kierenmoore3236
      @kierenmoore3236 3 месяца назад

      Second to Fractal (in modeling terms). Maybe headrush, too - don’t know … and how is the TMP coming along for FX … ?

  • @jarretthinds5621
    @jarretthinds5621 Год назад +10

    Thanks for doing this, very cool. I knew the Helix right off the bat as I've gigged with them since they came out. But I haven't spent a lot of time with the Kemper and zero times with the QC. But after writing down my faves, I was a little surprised that I picked the QC in almost every instance as my favorite of the three. Makes me wonder if I need to check one out now...

  • @ChrisHendrix117
    @ChrisHendrix117 2 года назад +9

    Honestly, in a mix… there’s just not enough difference to concern yourself with any one in particular. Pick your favorite. I choose the Kemper for the community and the vast number of resources.
    Also, really cool you guys collaborated with HW. Really love the TJ stuff. Have tons of his profiles!! Thanks! Cheers!

  • @matzebraun
    @matzebraun 2 года назад +11

    I liked b the most and was sure it would be the kemper! Now I’m pretty interested in the quad cortex…

    • @kierenmoore3236
      @kierenmoore3236 3 месяца назад

      QC is good … but always adds grit. Which is I thin why those into heavier/higher-gain sounds tend towards it.

  • @jimwoodard64
    @jimwoodard64 2 года назад +6

    Wow, so I own the Kemper, and I was disappointed in its showing with the Fender amps. I have Tone Junkie's entire library, and it was even more confusing that it did so poorly in that realm. That said, it's my main Marshall amp, and it didn't disappoint. Rock on, Mr. Kemper.

    • @WarrenPostma
      @WarrenPostma 2 года назад +1

      I think TJ tried but probably there are better Kemper Fender amp captures out there than this one

  • @brazilianmegaman258
    @brazilianmegaman258 Год назад +4

    John definitely thought that C was the Helix when he made the comment about high end fizz. I've owned a Helix for a long time and have heard this a lot but have never had a problem with this high end fizz issue I see people complaining about online. I did instantly recognise A as Helix as well as it just has a sound to it that always sits nicely in a mix.

  • @NathanMorgan7
    @NathanMorgan7 2 года назад +1

    I noticed this video was in 50FPS. Very nice and much appreciated!

  • @fisch723
    @fisch723 Год назад +9

    Happy to report I preferred the Helix in each case. The others were too toppy for my tastes but it’s all subjective. I just continue to enjoy being a Helix owner. FWIW, a) I prefer darker tones in general, b) besides Fender, I don’t really try to emulate any amps, just look for useable/playable tones, especially for lead and c) not really a high gain guy. Although ironically, my go-to preset relies on the German Mahadeva for the distorted sounds (the Jazz Rivet 120 handles the cleans). It cleans up surprisingly well.

  • @revjeffg
    @revjeffg Год назад +4

    I chose B C B just like you guys…and honestly, I think it might have been Bs across the board if you could have dialed back the reverb on the Plexi pass. This was fun! 👍👍 oh, since you asked, I’m a QC user. 😀

  • @matthewdavis8934
    @matthewdavis8934 Год назад +3

    I own a Helix so I was able to figure that out immediately. Honestly, I thought B was the Kemper and C was the QC. I've never played either but I enjoyed B (QC) over C (Kemper) in all the samples.

  • @kieransweeden
    @kieransweeden 2 года назад +9

    Helix user here. I was convinced throughout that C would be the Helix for some reason, I was obviously mistaken. The QC certainly had a little something over the others in my opinion. It was either the best, or not far behind.
    The trouble with a test like this is that it's very preset author-oriented. Give someone else the responsibility to create presets for the tests and I'm fairly certain you'll get different results. You'd then say apart from some hardware differences that may mean something to you, the big decider is UX and how well you gel with the unit.

    • @Bobby-wn5yr
      @Bobby-wn5yr 2 года назад +1

      I don’t have any of them, but to my ear the helix actually came second overall for me. The QC was clearly a cut above, but apart from that 1 round it won I actually found the sound from the kempler was far behind the other two. Even in the round it won I could hear something I didn’t like deep in the tone.
      But yeah, of course, they’re totally subjective. 3 different people trying to replicate the same tone would do it in three totally different ways, and then there’s the nature of the tests. Time and again I see these tests where it’s ‘replicate a classic fender amp’ or a ‘marshal plexi’ - it’s sort of the de facto. But what if that’s not why you’re buying one of these? If you just want a marshal plexi or fender reverb deluxe sound… I mean.. you can literally buy the real thing for less than one of these units if you need the tone that precise.
      People use these for all kinds of things, but they’re always reviewed on the basis of their amp models, which I find a bit curious. For example in this video they passed a tube screamer into them… but didn’t test the built in tube screamer models for example.

  • @Timmisen
    @Timmisen 2 года назад +5

    I own a Kemper and have used it for five years but i got totaly fooled today ! I really thought Kemper was the first one!
    Great videos guys keep it up greetings from Sweden!

  • @joesatchton212
    @joesatchton212 2 года назад +2

    Guys: Someone else just mentioned this, but I'm making a separate post in hopes you really see it and will seriously consider it. Content like this is IDEAL for LIVE STREAMING. Yes, takes a bit of time to setup but once you have it setup properly, you totally cut out all of the time needed to edit and do post-production.
    Things like these kinda of comparisons are best done without any post-production on your end anyway for the audio.
    Plus live streams can be so much more interactive - you get IMMEDIATE feedback and comments, just have a producer curating the comments and throwing them out to the hosts for discussion. You also can easily do REAL TIME VOTING to get a feel for people's choices immediately.
    LIVE STREAMING WOULD BE EPIC FOR ANDERTON'S.
    Plus, you could make it a bit more cheeky in terms of language if you wanted to [or not]. There is a certain skill that is needed to effectively host live streams, but you all have developed unique hosting styles and natural personalitites which live streaming would take advantage of.
    For examples, look to TECH CHANNELS like Linus Tech Tips and their WAN SHOW on how its done. Hell, even TPS is doing this already once a week.
    Again, yes, some work on the front end to setup for live streaming. But once that's done its just maintaining the settings and refining. And again, pretty much ZERO POST PRODUCTION EDITING needed unless you choose to.
    Yes, live without a net can be a bit scary, but there's no reason in the world Anderton's and crew can't do it right and get amazing audience interaction and feedback immediately.

  • @neildoherty6234
    @neildoherty6234 2 года назад +3

    All sounded great, but all sounded better with the Les Paul, great video as always.

  • @redbarchetta8782
    @redbarchetta8782 2 года назад +6

    Helix owner here so going to be interested in this. :) I feel C is the Helix.
    Surprised A was the Helix myself but all 3 sounded great over all. :)

    • @marksvideochannel3592
      @marksvideochannel3592 2 года назад

      I was the same, sure C was the Helix. Not tempted at all by the others now. Very comfortable with my choice, especially considering the new cab update. Which I haven't tried yet, coming out this morning while I'm at work.

  • @charlesg.1207
    @charlesg.1207 Год назад +3

    Great review. Enjoyed watching. I own a QC purchased from you guys, and it got to me in the U.S. very quick. You guys rock! I also have an HX Stomp and POD Go. I favor the QC for a lot of playing scenarios I also love the large screen on the QC. I don't need an editor for the QC. The cloud for it is great. I have the HX and POD Go for some other things and is a back up to the QC. I can make either device work for me. I come to a conclusion that you and Digital John selected the same amps all the time because John is in your DNA tests have proved this 😅

  • @fraenkiboii
    @fraenkiboii 2 года назад +2

    I'm a QC user and I love the sounds and flexibility it gives me. My actual amp has been off for at least 2-3 months in a row. The other day, I kinda felt disconnected from the QC. I turned on my Marshall SV20 and I was blown away what a difference it makes. I think sound-wise, all the recent modellers are there. But the feel isn't quite the same. I don't even think it's pure latency that's the problem. The latency of the QC is okay imho.

    • @Paul-D
      @Paul-D 2 года назад +2

      Well if you own a QC and a Marshall SV20 your winning anyways hahaa

  • @Eric-dd8bk
    @Eric-dd8bk 2 месяца назад

    as a comparison, this video is not doing it very well, but highlighting the capabilities of each unit and the difference in the sound of each model, I can appreciate and enjoy.
    Nice one as always Andertons.

  • @pierreschnehage8152
    @pierreschnehage8152 Год назад +2

    I listened to the first comparison. Made my mind up on considerations other than the tones. Difficult to explain but glad to find I was right.
    I singled out the Kemper first. Was a bit of a choice between the other two but the Helix seemed the most natural.
    I'm also a Valeton fan. If the cash was there, probably the QC.

  • @glencruciani
    @glencruciani Год назад +3

    I own the QC and a Kemper Stage. In this blind test, I preferred the QC in almost every comparison. If I'm being honest, I much prefer the workflow and layout of my Kemper Stage as a gigging musician. I even contemplated selling my QC. Videos like this have me reconsidering getting rid of it. Perhaps I just need more time to get used to it, and find some better captures. I do feel that the QC is not as rugged feeling for gigging. Maybe it stays in my arsenal as my choice for recording in my studio. The jury is still out. Anyone else in the same position as me??? I'd love to hear your feedback.

  • @chrisvento78
    @chrisvento78 2 месяца назад

    Helix user here ! 3 years with it and love it and still learning .

  • @BeachJazzMusic
    @BeachJazzMusic 2 года назад +8

    You guys may have been a bit early with this comparison. I don't know if your Helix has the new 3.5 update. This is a major game changer for the Helix. The sound is so much better than before. I've got an AxeFx III (which I love) and this new update puts the Helix on par with that. This just goes to show you that it's in the programming much more than the actual hardware.

  • @ronzinale
    @ronzinale 2 года назад +2

    I've choosen Helix, and I own a stomp. It's interesting because the price difference from HX floor and QC cortex is marginal, but from Stomp to QC cortex is huge, and you get the same sound with some limitations. The QC form factor is the one I prefer, smaller than other two.

  • @martyshwaartz971
    @martyshwaartz971 2 года назад +2

    Unpopular opinion (?) but I don’t think the sound comparisons matter all too much. They all sound great, the question is more so what features you need in order to do what you wanted

  • @rejuvenator8966
    @rejuvenator8966 Год назад +3

    Very surprised how much I liked Helix here. I own QC and HX Stomp, have gigged with both and always end up with better tones on QC (at least amp tones and overdrives, Helix has better verbs, delays and modulations).

  • @gitarowydominik
    @gitarowydominik 2 года назад +3

    I liked the QC best. [I own a Kemper, which I rarely use, because I prefer my tube amps with an OX]

  • @jwanda10
    @jwanda10 2 года назад +8

    i preferred the kemper overall (twice) QC (once) and i own a Helix. curious if the helix is running 3.5 firmware because it sounds a lot better to me with the new cab models.

    • @2shackchaz
      @2shackchaz 2 года назад +1

      They likely filmed this a while ago so I doubt it. Shame they didn’t wait a month or so 😂

    • @algorithm007ify
      @algorithm007ify Год назад

      Kemper is amazing.

  • @Brixiomendoza
    @Brixiomendoza 2 года назад +3

    All 3 Modelers sounds insanely good!!...

    • @wellnesswisdom-vi2sb
      @wellnesswisdom-vi2sb 2 месяца назад

      Helix is not a modeler

    • @ShimiHalperin
      @ShimiHalperin 16 дней назад

      @@wellnesswisdom-vi2sb Helix _is_ a modeler. Helix doesn't do captures, is that what you meant?

  • @avocadoenjoyer8511
    @avocadoenjoyer8511 2 года назад +2

    Fascinating, I guessed all of them wrong!
    I thought A was the Quad Cortex, B was the Kemper, and C was the Helix (granted, I've never used any of them, just watched some reviews). I liked how despite not always being my first pick, A was always a good second, whereas I really felt B sometimes sounded more muddy than I would have liked, and C was really a gamble (sometimes first, sometimes dead last). If I had to pick one, it probably would have been A. If I could have two, I'd pick C and either of the others.
    I personally have a Headrush MX5, so no dog in this fight.

  • @deekerr1613
    @deekerr1613 2 года назад +3

    C had a tough start but handled the TS really well. B was consistently good but not always my favourite. I think between the two of them my decision would come down to the UI and how they are to work with.

    • @algorithm007ify
      @algorithm007ify Год назад

      So the Kemper wins in terms of overall sounds?

  • @rjester21
    @rjester21 2 года назад +1

    No idea which is which, but this is awesome 😊

  • @benlemcke2863
    @benlemcke2863 2 года назад +10

    Of all three, I found the Helix to sound the most like a live guitar rather than the other two being more like polished studio tones if that makes sense.

    • @PartyChicken407
      @PartyChicken407 2 года назад +1

      Use them in person and you’ll have a different opinion.

    • @gwynbleiddroach2589
      @gwynbleiddroach2589 Год назад

      @@PartyChicken407I have and he is exactly right.

  • @BlackWolfTribe
    @BlackWolfTribe Год назад +8

    Really don’t know why Helix hasn’t gotten a capture feature yet. That would be total game changer and very well would put the helix at the top of the food chain with Digital Modelers

    • @classicaljames276
      @classicaljames276 11 месяцев назад +1

      Capture is only useful if you have some top quality amps already. Most of the time the manufacturer will have captured all the great amps better than we could. So it’s not that big a deal for most people.

  • @steves12strings
    @steves12strings 2 года назад

    Picking ToneJunkie as the profiler was a great decision!

  • @threeonamatchventura
    @threeonamatchventura Год назад +2

    Kemper for sound, workflow and road worthy design. I would find use for each one but to choose one over the others you might pass on the Helix because it can’t capture. You might pass on QC from concern about the specialized foot switch/ parameter knobs wearing out and this leaves the Kemper. To say the Kemper can’t make sounds like the other units is pretty tall talk. If you have what you like, great. Just pointing out some things not said here.

  • @professoroak2252
    @professoroak2252 2 года назад +1

    Own a Helix. Preferred the QC in almost every patch while “blindfolded”. Wish I had the money for one. Still very happy with my Helix, though. Cheers!

  • @helies2862
    @helies2862 Год назад +2

    I liked 1 on Fender and 2 on Marshall and Slo. I own a QC and I really hoped that it was 2 as it was the most consistent throughout for my ears even if I preferred the helix for clean. 3 on fender was horrible and I particularly didn’t like 1 on the Marshall and Slo with how the mids were shifted. If I would rate them from with ears, it would be QC, Kemper and Helix. I can’t praise the capture feature enough through my own personal captures being near identical when done correctly. It’s nice to know you have the unit you preferred the sounds of.

  • @ellleigh1216
    @ellleigh1216 2 года назад +7

    Good thing I liked A the most, as I own a helix! I was quite pleasantly surprised as tbh, I thought C was helix and didn’t like any of the tones from C haha, so weirdly happy with the result and how affordable the helix is, with power cab, nice to know I don’t need to fork out for a more expensive modeller 👍🏻

    • @sirnedwood8987
      @sirnedwood8987 2 года назад

      And now with v3.5 the quality of the cab tone has just gone up exponentially! If you haven't done so already go and update your Helix right now and check it out.

    • @paulhcan
      @paulhcan 2 года назад

      My bias was thinking that too, although "B" was a close 2nd in my ears. I didn't like "C" at all. Maybe I do in fact need a Helix (speaking as a Native Instruments GR5/6 user)....although...all those patches in my DAW....hmmmmm maybe I need to put off that decision for even longer and stick with what I have.

  • @RudeRecording
    @RudeRecording Год назад +2

    I preferred the sound of the Helix but I do own the HX Stomp. I thought the Quad Cortex sounded too fizzy and the Kemper was too thin. I primarily use the Helix Native in my recordings but I also own the Bias Amp and FX 2. I've found that the native reverbs in the Helix are vastly superior to the Bias software and I'm a bit miffed that I can't transfer any of the tones I develop in recording to my Spark 40. The reason for the HX Stomp is that I can take the tones I recorded live.

  • @rujasu7731
    @rujasu7731 2 года назад +3

    Didn't Line6 just release a big software update that revamps all the cabs? Was this recorded with version 3.5 or whatever was before it?

  • @CrazedFandango
    @CrazedFandango 2 года назад

    I made a trip to Andertons last Saturday. Great store and amazing staff!!

  • @petergault5011
    @petergault5011 2 года назад +1

    Thanks for that gents, I've had a QC for a few months and was hoping I was going to match my favourite blind audition to the QC...I did on the Fender,. I agree that the Kemper did a better Plexi and thought QC and Kemper were equally good, although different tones on the SLO. Fascinating to remove the bias and just listen without prejudice.

  • @justfunguitar1500
    @justfunguitar1500 Год назад +2

    I thought they all sounded great. I own a helix LT and a Kemper. I tend to use my helix for my band and kemper at home for recording. But I also have a load of pedals and switch it up. Fractal upgrade too often for my liking. QC was too late to the game for me but I do think it's neat. I would agree with others who commented that with the latest Helix update just out, it's tones just got even better since this video.

  • @shaneelvy9037
    @shaneelvy9037 Год назад +1

    That Marshall sound coming from the Kemper sold it. Just for that sound alone it's worth it.

  • @digitalchris6681
    @digitalchris6681 2 года назад +3

    Had all three, and gone back to good 'ol analogue stuff. It may be big, heavy and expensive, but at least it sounds good....

    • @slash196
      @slash196 2 года назад

      I've never played a tube amp that I thought sounded or felt noticeably different or better than a kemper.

    • @digitalchris6681
      @digitalchris6681 2 года назад

      @@slash196 "sound" I might agree, but "feel" ? No comparison. Valve amps respond well to dynamics, modellers just don;t (the nearest digital emulation I've found is the UAD amp pedals through a good frfr or pa)

  • @Walkerbjj
    @Walkerbjj 2 года назад +1

    I’ve owned QC, Kemper, and played a Helix. I prefer the QC big time. The QC is the most user friendly to dial in and captures amps more accurately than my kemper profiled them. The helix was cool overall but I never played anything that sounded (dare I say) real. The helix has solid effects though.

  • @psc502
    @psc502 2 года назад +4

    I've got a hxstomp, a rectifier, and the new Ik ToneX. I really like glassy sounds so I actually preferred C, the Kemper, but thought B, the QC sounded the most real and best all around. BTW, try out the ToneX, I really like being able to share my amps for free, even though I was a little hit or miss on my captures. Search for A RECTO or A Hartke if you wanna hear real basement tones and how little change dramatically effect the sound for good or ill.

  • @williamfoster4463
    @williamfoster4463 2 года назад +2

    Great shootout being a helix user which I happily purchased from andertons was a bit disappointed with the result but kind of expected it I don't particularly like using the helix into frfr speakers or monitors but Think it is amazing used into a valve power amp

  • @devilsdoorbell
    @devilsdoorbell 2 года назад +1

    I don't own, nor haven't used any of them, but my old rock n' roll ears liked them in this order: A, B, then C in general. A sounded consistently the best to me. B was a close (but darker) second place.

  • @joshbeighton2513
    @joshbeighton2513 2 года назад

    My preferences:
    Fender: B->A->C
    Fender with TS: A->B->C
    Marsh: A->B->C
    Marsh with TS: B->C->A
    Not sure on the soldano!

  • @donald-parker
    @donald-parker Год назад

    One of the most interesting things to me about these vids is how much sound affects approach to playing. And I will stick with that when challenged for my need for more guitars.

  • @BoyAditya
    @BoyAditya 2 года назад +4

    Kudos to tonejunkies. I'm satisfied with all of the sounds. 👌👌

  • @h20s56
    @h20s56 2 года назад

    Sold my Kemper over a year ago, found a matchless amp, never looked back. These have their place though, I would love to own all of them.

  • @tonlarj37
    @tonlarj37 11 дней назад

    I just watched this... a year later. I own and currently use a Kemper and Helix LT. I've owned and used, Axe FX3, Quad Cortex, and Synergy amps. All are great! With some time tweaking, I've been able to get (hair splitting) identical sounds and feel with them all. IDK You should be able to make whatever workflow you prefer work. There's a few other devices out there that would probably work just as good, too. So..... just my 2 cents. ✌🤘

  • @SirVicc
    @SirVicc 2 года назад +3

    I liked 1 throughout. Thought it had to be the Kemper or QC. Thought 3 was the Helix because of the brightness.

    • @3l84r70
      @3l84r70 2 года назад

      Helix presets are usually to bassy.. I always found myself reducing the bass from the module defaults

  • @redmcmannus
    @redmcmannus 2 года назад

    Great to see Digital John and Digital Dad doing a video together.

  • @garrysimmons111
    @garrysimmons111 2 года назад +4

    I own a Helix LT. I like it well enough. TBH, I would be fine with just an HX Stomp at WAY less money as I don't use the vol/wah pedal at all or need the extra I/O and such. The 3.5 update is very nice. I'm sure I would be happy with any number of modeler options out there as I'm more concerned about my performance (what I play) than the subtleties of my tone (rock cover band in dive bars).

    • @vladrapchan5330
      @vladrapchan5330 Год назад

      I plan to buy an LT or a Stomp, but I keep thinking that 8 blocks from the Stomp wouldn't be enough in some cases. What do you think?

    • @masterofreality230
      @masterofreality230 Год назад +1

      @@vladrapchan5330 I would try to grab a cheaper used LT. I have the Stomp XL and I have not ran into issues, but thats because I have big box delays and reverbs, if I didnt, there could be problems.

    • @1233-i7t
      @1233-i7t Год назад

      ​@@vladrapchan5330I've been using the hx stomp for a few years, and it's treated me pretty well so far. I didnt have much trouble with running out of blocks, but i could definitely See it becomming a problem for some people. So maybe go for the bigger version if you can swing it, but the stomp also works just fine. Especially if you get a 2x external foot switch, with the new-ish firmware you can have 5 presets with 3 snapshots + tap Tempo each reachable per foot, which is plenty for me.

  • @Fablebox
    @Fablebox Год назад

    I actually had it wrong. I had Quad-Kemper-Helix without using any of them, but with all my research. My favorite is what I know now as QC. Thanks for this. This helps me a lot.

  • @shaunthomas4856
    @shaunthomas4856 2 года назад

    Great video guys. This has help me to rethink my future purchase.

  • @IndyRockStar
    @IndyRockStar 2 года назад +1

    You guys should do the same test but with only the stock amp/cabs/effects. They all should have common items. I think the QC would win hands down.

  • @mikestubbs4580
    @mikestubbs4580 2 года назад

    Helix owner. It’s worth noting that these are presets that can be tweaked and edited further, so if there’s one that you don’t like the sound of, just edit it a bit! Not saying this isn’t a good test but they could all be tweaked to sound more similar to each other, and in a mix who would know the difference anyway!

  • @seanentrikin9263
    @seanentrikin9263 Год назад +1

    This was an interesting way to doing this "shootout". I quite enjoyed it. I chose "B - A - B"... that final round was extremely close to me between all 3. I'm a Helix user and was happy I chose it in one of the rounds. But to be honest, aside from the first round (where C didn't sound good at all to me), all 3 units sounded great and I wouldn't be opposed to using any of those sounds.

  • @james1939-s1c
    @james1939-s1c 2 года назад +3

    Please do the same with headrush/Helix/GT-1000, I would love to have a modeling shootout with all the current firmwares. My thoughts after listening, is the Helix was the most constant and really seemed to just need a Global EQ adjustment to brighten it up, the Kemper was awful for the fender amp, the cortex was terrible for the Marshall, and for the SLO they were all an eq tweak from being too close to call.

  • @johncolaluca2231
    @johncolaluca2231 7 месяцев назад

    Great job guys. Quad Cortex sounds best to my ears. Question: Have you ever tried the ISP Technologies - Theta Pro DSP guitar effects processor? I have been using guitar effects processors for 17 years. Owned many but my go to for Pure Tone for me since 2018 is the Theta Pro DSP. This unit has a Pre & Post EQ which allows fine tuning to acheive desired tone. My setup is stereo XLR out to FOH, 2 mission engineering pedals (Volume & Wah), Parker Fly Deluxe guitar (rewired front pickup to single coil). I have received many compliments during live gigs being I don't use an amp on stage. Theta Pro has their signature decimator circuit in this unit as well to transparently eliminate any 60hz hum from a single coil. I play Rock, Pop, Funk, Disco, Ballads, etc in a weekend working band and the Theta Pro covers it all. Very interested in your thoughts on the Theta Pro DSP.😀

  • @ckhanpe
    @ckhanpe Год назад +2

    Great vid… i’d pick the helix out of the three… superb gear with awesome support

  • @nerbuhc
    @nerbuhc 13 дней назад

    Even listening on some logitech 2inch monitors, the QC cuts through the most authentic. The compression algorithm they use is just amazing

  • @algorithm007ify
    @algorithm007ify Год назад +4

    The Kemper ecosystem is still my favourite with the Kemper Cabinet and amazing profiles from MBritt, tonejunkie and co. I also feel it's more "proven" and roadworthy than that QC stuff.

  • @dinos2119
    @dinos2119 4 месяца назад

    Wow man you can talk that's for sure. But it's usual problem with RUclipsrs, they got impressions how smart they are

  • @luisrios6687
    @luisrios6687 2 года назад +1

    This was interesting! I’m a kemper user ! I’m still pretty satisfied with it especially using it with the kemper kabinet. Using the kabinet as a personal monitor and kemper connect to the PA is nice !

    • @gffg387
      @gffg387 2 года назад +1

      The Kemper sucked on this comparison

    • @luisrios6687
      @luisrios6687 2 года назад

      @@gffg387 haha yeah it did . I feel kemper might and hopefully might see what’s going on with the competition. They need to make a come back .

  • @tdover74
    @tdover74 Год назад

    I personally own a helix and out of all of them I liked the QC and Helix equally and strangely enough I didn’t like the Kemper ! Great comparison guys

  • @keithowensmusic37
    @keithowensmusic37 2 года назад +1

    I own the Quad Cortex. I was playing it intermittently as I watched this. I've a Friedman BE and a Vox AC30 combination patch dialed in that I'm definitely enjoying.

    • @jonathanarnold2225
      @jonathanarnold2225 2 года назад

      Do you have that preset uploaded? Would like to try it!

    • @keithowensmusic37
      @keithowensmusic37 2 года назад

      @@jonathanarnold2225 No but I can upload it. Check back this afternoon-evening. It's set up for lead guitar with lots of delay and reverb, but you can change that if you want.

    • @jonathanarnold2225
      @jonathanarnold2225 2 года назад

      @@keithowensmusic37 what is your username?

    • @keithowensmusic37
      @keithowensmusic37 2 года назад

      @@jonathanarnold2225 keithowens

    • @keithowensmusic37
      @keithowensmusic37 2 года назад +1

      @@jonathanarnold2225 keithowens

  • @jimmyjaylinssen3902
    @jimmyjaylinssen3902 2 года назад +1

    yess, the video I was waiting for

  • @stubbzzz
    @stubbzzz Год назад +4

    I’ve had a Kemper for a long time, but in this shootout, I feel like the QC sounds more 3 Dimensional, which is always very important to me in the recording studio.

  • @karterestill
    @karterestill 2 года назад +4

    The Kemper is still the best musical purchase I have ever made. Never regretted it for a second.