Watch 16 Beto O’Rourke And Ted Cruz Supporters Debate Each Other (HBO)
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
- The Senate race between Ted Cruz and his challenger, Texas congressman Beto O’Rourke, has become a symbol of the battle over a state that Democrats have long wanted to turn blue. So when 16 Texas voters - half supporters of each candidate - came to face-to-face, it’s no surprise a national issue like immigration dominated the discussion.
During a VICE News panel convened by pollster Frank Luntz Friday in Dallas, participants talked about their impressions of the candidates and the issues animating the campaign. So far, O’Rourke has drawn a record fundraising haul and lots of media attention, but polling still shows GOP Sen. Cruz slightly ahead.
Cruz has attacked O’Rourke for proposing making so-called Dreamers American citizens, which Cruz says would put the interests of immigrants ahead of ordinary Texans. Cruz has said his own views on immigration boil down to four words: “legal, good - illegal, bad.” During their Sept. 21 debate, Cruz said the U.S. should do everything possible to secure the border, including building a wall.
On Friday, panelists supporting Cruz agreed. “There are sovereign countries that have laws. Obey those laws,” said John Percha III, a 49 year-old aircraft mechanic. “You can’t just walk in and do whatever you want.”
“America is like a lifeboat,” added Paul Lidberg, 52, a sales account manager and game designer. “And at a certain point if you bring everybody into the lifeboat, the lifeboat sinks.”
But O’Rourke supporters said that anger over the state of the immigration system is misdirected - and that immigrants themselves should not be blamed.
“I guarantee you, as a mother of two boys, that I would do everything illegal, legal - it doesn't matter what it is - to get my children into this country,” said Angie Byrnes, 47, the owner of a marketing consulting business.
Angelique Mayers, a 46 year-old customer service agent, proposed penalties for people who hire undocumented workers. “Why do we demonize the people that get lured here by business owners that have jobs waiting for them?” Mayers asked. “Why don't we do mandatory prison time for anybody that hires an illegal alien?”
Eight of the sixteen panelists had at least one parent born outside of the U.S. But that didn’t mean all panelists wanted to loosen immigration laws.
“Should there be a path to citizenship? I'm Hispanic, and I don't think so,” said Josue Gonzalez, a 32 year-old security contractor and Cruz supporter. “Maybe consider giving them status to stay here legally but not impact the voting, the platform for either Democrat or Republican.”
Julio Rios, 47, an unemployed Cruz supporter and the son of Uruguayan and Cuban immigrants, said that the country’s roughly 12 million undocumented immigrants should be put on a ten year work visa, with an annual fee of $1,000 to maintain the visa. The money, Rios said, should be used to fund a border wall. He called the plan a “modified path to citizenship.”
Asked to describe the candidates, supporters of Cruz called him principled and steadfast. Critics called Cruz smarmy - a word that Cruz’s supporters later used to describe O’Rourke, too, along with “socialist.” O’Rourke’s supporters called him compassionate.
Last week’s confirmation of Brett Kavanaugh to the Supreme Court also came up. Sophia Percha, a 48-year-old realtor and Cruz supporter, said the Democratic Party had hijacked the #MeToo movement and pursued Kavanaugh without proof.
Challenged by another panelist, Sophia Percha said she herself had survived abuse. “However, I would not blame this person sitting next to me that he did it because he looks like the type that did it,” Sophia Percha said.
One panelist said that the Kavanaugh hearings had ensured she’d vote Republican.
“Before the Kavanaugh thing, I probably wasn't going to vote. But this Kavanaugh thing is going to turn out a lot of people, because I think they did him totally wrong,” said Jennifer McCann, a 47-year-old customs broker who supports Cruz but often votes Democrat.
“If they did him wrong, they’re gonna make all of us wrong,” Percha added.
O'Rourke and Cruz will face off again Tuesday night in a televised debate.
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When 16 Texas voters - half supporters of each candidate - came to face-to-face, it’s no surprise a national issue like immigration dominated the discussion.
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Frank Luntz will not mention the REAL reason that Texans will choose Beto over Ted.
Its because Beto does not accept corporate campaign contributions.
I understand why Frank Lutz conceals this BLATANT FACT ... but hey Vice News why do fail to mention this?
Or you just love Franks Lutz Establishment bias?
VICE News why didn’t y’all ask the two major groups voting 18-25 and then the republicans
Wow no talk about climate change!!! Texas must not be on planet earth
Why does Vice give some people mics and not the others.
VICE News Frank Lutz is not a non-partisan host and he loads the groups with people who support certain new ideology for conversations on specific right wing agenda topics.
Path to citizenship " i disagree and I'm Hispanic, they should have a consequence"
Did your parents come here legally? " Probably not" ...
Rob Parra he alluded to he doesnt want U.S. to be run like Mexico.
Rob Parra using his own party terminology, he is a ‘anchor baby’
Rob Parra I say we deport his parents, since he supports to deport others. Then we’ll see if he’s sing the same song
The Home Plate Special lol that’s not what he was saying at all
Doesn't make his argument any less valid.
Got the lower classes bickering and fighting with each other while the elite laugh on their yachts.
Different Parties by day chillin at the same party at night
It's interesting how conservative media likes to attach the label "elite" to artists and scientists and try to blame all the world's problems on them. "We have to stand up to these experts." - Proud of their ignorance.
exactly!!!
elite means different things to each party.... To the Democrats, it's "rich people", to the republicans it's "smart people".
Certainly don't disagree with you there.
The Hispanic kid who was born in Texas but parents were “probably” illegal is a great example of a self-loathing Latino. Reaps benefits of parents breaking the law but won’t empathize with other parents doing the same for their kids. Ugh
Renee Ariesen most Americans come from immigrants but many loathe recent immigrants. Similarly a lot of rich families hate “welfare” but their ancestors would’ve starved or suffered poverty without it.
It's pathetic. They think that if they suck up to the conservative hardliners they might have a chance at being accepted as one of them.
They're not fooling anyone but themselves
Renee Ariesen remember what it doesn’t say on the lady of the harbors tablets.
Kick out those in need!
The chains of oppression are dictators and religions.
Which are also dictatorships.
Keep religion and reality separate.
When you prove there’s a magical white dude...then we bow down!
But we don’t bow to a mortal.
We killed the last two religions that tried to end democracy.
We will need to again if the blue wave fails to show!
Renee Ariesen He is what Mexicans consider a "Malinche"
Josue Gonzalez
SL Protective Security Specialist at Triple Canopy (A Constellis Company)Dallas/Fort Worth Area doxx his mom, get her deported.
Lol on the Mexican republican.... he got nervous a bit and thought... hmmmm I think I’ve said too much...
hahaha... he like damn they may deport me now. I blew my cover!
They might deport my parents
@@bridgettedenise if his parents came in illegally then I would support them getting US Citizenship. But we should just kick him out of the country for being stupid.
Franky Salazar and what makes you think I'm liberal you punyeta. Look it up.
@Franky Salazar You must have gotten confused by his last name and actually thought he was for you. LMAO. BTW the Trump's 14% Corporate tax cut wasn't for you. It was for the WEALTHY!!! The 1.5 TRILLION deficit we have now was because Trump gave a 14% tax cut to the WEALTHY!!! Just wait till Trump decides to cut social security and health care to pay for the deficit! POOR morons that voted for him will PAY HEAVILY!!!
That Latino guy was shook when asked about his parents status when they came into this country. Does he not realize that his parents did the same what any other immigrant parent would have done to give their children a better life? Even if that means taking back breaking work in farms and construction?
I know right. Republicans act like the country doesn't benefit at all from illegal Mexican migrans. I would love to see u.s natural born citizens go fruit picking in California only to earn shit wages for back breaking work.
@@androidunderground40 the difference is that if we didn't have goddamn criminals picking the fruit for "shit wages" then us "real Americans" could get the job and make a decent wage.
Jearmey Morgan most u.s. natives won't do work like that
And he stands by his decision say that it was wrong, even if it benefited him greatly. Rules is rules. There is poverty all over the world, they can't all just enter into the U.S. Look at how receptive Europe has been to the refugees.
ALP7A rules are rules, but corporations don't seem to follow them when they lure migrant workers into the country to cut back on labor cost. if you are so concerned about rules maybe you should tell your GOP lawmakers to stop hiring migrant workers.
The interviewers question about raising money is dishonest. Beto and Cruz do not raise money in the same way. One raises corporate money and the other doesn’t.
W Meito BETO has received donations from foreign donors.. This is illegal. Also Soros is envolved with Betos donations. Vote red for Ted
+jane
do you have any evidence of beto taking donations from foreign donors?
if you do, then it is your civil duty to report him to the proper authorities so he can be jailed, because that's illegal.
if you have no evidence, then you're just talking shit for the sake of talking shit.
so, when did you notify the authorities?
and what do you like about rafael "lying ted" cruz?
No, they just say "Soros" and instantly trigger the rest of the hive mind who read it. Instant credibility for them.
Carpet Gobblin I’ve seen that quite a bit. They have no clue that Soros also donated to Ted Cruz. I think he only donated $200 more to Beto then Cruz.
How are you going to die for voting for ted lmfao
Remember this folks, Ted Cruz accepts corporate money and has supported giving tax breaks to billionaires and huge companies.
And Beto takes the Hollywood money.
@@RussSFA private citizens aren't corporations and corporations aren't people
Manny EHC and giving tax breaks to normal citizens, small businesses and helping the american economy overall. People like you think the highest corporate tax rate in the world is going to make a country "rich". Trump took the brakes off.
What tax breaks to normal citizens? That giant tax break bill gave virtually nothing back to the vast majority of Americans, and most companies just used it for stock buybacks to enrich their boards and dividend shareholders. If your company doesn't make tens to hundreds of millions minimum, you barely got anything.
We have the highest marginal corporate tax rate in the world. Small businesses don't pay anywhere close to that, and due to all the loopholes that lobbyists insist on, the largest ones pay even less. What America has for a corporate tax rate doesn't matter when most of the profits are squirreled away overseas.
Meanwhile, back in the 50s and 60s, the corporate tax rate was almost double what it currently is, and the top marginal personal tax rate was around 60-70 percent. And the economy boomed well after the wars.
Tax breaks need to go to where the majority of economic activity is, and that is for the bottom 70% of wage earners, and the amount of the break should always decrease proportionally as the person gets wealthier. Rich people are already doing fine, no reason to make things easier for them.
So your mad that those companies are smarter than you? 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Left or Right there is one thing you can't deny: Any Texan man would NEVER allow another man to call his wife a "dog" or, at the very least, allow that person to disrespect his family and still support them.
Texans portray themselves as these big strong people, when theyre just dogs, all bark no bite. They’re ruled by incompetent leaders, and big business
The Latino guy almost malfunctioned when he realized his parents probably aren’t in the US legally
He didn't have a FoxNews talking point for that one.
I know him and yes his parents worked to get their legal status now.
HAHHAAHAH too funny
@@YourMeadIsNasty So it's OK for his parents to come over illegally for a better future for their son, but it's wrong for others to do the same, even if they're fleeing a war zone and applying for legal asylum. Gotcha.
He was probably "told" he was born in the US, but its probably not true or his documents are forged. He can't be sure since he can't remember being born and his knowledge of it is 2nd hand, its just hearsay.
That Mexican’s logic is you use the rope to climb to the top and once you are there you cut the rope 🙄
Wow. Damn you're fine 😘😘
Thanks 😅
Diego, it is so true, this is why Mexico is the way it is, and why Mexicans here in the USA are always taken for fools.
Is yours to use mexican as an insult and then make an absurd straw man? I see how republicans love this up your ads logic
Your still 80 jackasses
Facts
That guy's parents came here illegaly and he is an "anchor baby" , who is he trying to fool?
The Big C I’m pretty sure that he’s Ted Cruz’ Mexican twin.
It was interesting to hear that considering that by his ideals he’d have easily been a Mexican and not an American had his parents not come here illegally. Sounds kinda contradictory.
@Serene Sounds like he was the one saying he shouldn't have a vote and shouldn't have had a voice in this conversation.
@Serene
What the hell are you talking about? I don't like the guy because he was hypocritical and disengenous. He knows his parents came here illegally and that he is only a citizen because of the 14th amendment (anchor baby). He has no problem denying others an oppurtunity that his parents were given.
Just for the record I'm in Texas and I'm voting for Beto and my views on immigration are nuanced and don't really fit into either political party.
I'd bet money he is a republican plant for this show. One of those paid actors they like to talk so much about when they can't stand on a moral ground to oppose democrats.
Would love to see the Hispanic guy's reaction when his family gets deported due to GOP policies. Technically if the 14th amendment gets abolished, then he'll get deported too as an "anchor baby".
Chances are if they did manage to do that that it would not be retroactive.
Michael H
Seeing as how the 14th amendment has nothing to do with illegal immigrants, it would not be required to be repealed.Please stop talking about the law if you have no real knowledge of it. Court proceedings take into account the laws at the time of the alleged crime and therefore the law that was current at the time of his parents entering the county would be the law the case would be determined by. In other words to let you understand what I am saying, if they suddenly made it illegal to eat candy on Halloween it would only be illegal for folks to do it after the law was enacted, it would not be used to imprison everyone before then. Is that something that equates to your level of intelligence? IF not try this, if the legal age of consent goes up to 25, the court can only convict those after the change in law for being with someone underage. It could not be used to criminalize those already having dated or marrying someone below 25 before the law came to be.
Then how can they take rifles away from people who bought them when they were legal after passing gun reform?
Define fake news
My comment??
The blond lady in the front has more compassion for Hispanics than the Mexican guy... wow
Indie Rivers Ain’t that some SHIT?! 🤦🏾♂️
Indie Rivers -- She spoke for a lot Americans, so did the attorney to the right of her.
Because the Mexican guy understands the law and loves America, sorry kiddo.
if you had compassion for south americans, central americans and mexican you would be for very strong borders. you have no idea the amount of death caused by our weakness
yollam that is truly a good question lol
I was in this video and good chunks of the discussion have been edited out. Not even half of the shockingly offensive and alarming comments the Cruz supporters said are in this, but if you hope for a better future and want to protect the rights of underrepresented groups, please vote for Beto in the Texas midterms! Every vote counts.
Maya Nair "offensive". Sure. To you guys even "build the wall" and stating legal terms like "illegal alien" is offensive...
Then maybe those mojados should go back to mexico. Why dont you protest against the cartels that actually abuse the illegals? 🤣
@shurednichso i wouldnt have had kids if i was poor. The cartels have been in a war for years now plus everyone already knows the government is dirty. All those college kids got killed for being stupid, which isnt a surprise since their parents didnt teach them common sense. Being stuipd isnt a excuse to break our laws. 🤣
Voting for Beto, and so all my family, neighbors, and friends.
hector garza you just said they should protest and now your saying they were stupid for protesting. Yea blame the victim. Would you blame your child for being murdered while trying to make your country a better place?
Lol, figures that the disgruntled unemployed dude would be anti-immigration
ro pro not the norm
with how he presented himself and his demeanor there might be some antisocial reasons and potentially hostile work environment reason why he is unemployed.
And? Should he not be allowed to have a voice? Nah let's belittle him online. What a compassionate person...
I was in the group, and that guy told us he was a small business owner that brought his company from Louisiana to Texas. So now I have even less respect for the guy than when I was debating him since he lied.
Seems a little too well dressed and accessorized to be unemployed he probably is between jobs
This was a horrible debate on both sides!
I say Jim Jeffereis skit on atheism is a perfect analogy of what the world is.
The Beto supporters have charged language just like the Cruz supporters, but each person in there seems to have their own uneducated idea about the wall or Cruz. No one argued against their points about his lack of effectiveness or pursuing legislation as a senator.
The Cruz supporters are right in that immigration is not some easy fix, and maybe the Beto supporters are too willing to accept immigrants as if there are no consequences. They even seem to disagree about if there should be immigration legally.
The issue is overall the Beto supporters are not 100% on point and do get personal about Cruz, but they are looking at Cruz's record objectively as well. No Cruz supporter brought up Beto's policies. No Cruz supporter has looked at what Beto has done as a House rep. Its on Beto to prove worth to the people, but the people won't look at his history, and Cruz can sit comfortably because he has been in the seat and is a comfortable preservation of the status quo for Texans.
@@Killopotamus Nicely put
I agree.
It’s not a debate, it’s a focus group. The point isn’t to win, it’s to measure public support for different policies. This is quite literally the problem with American politics, we talk about which side is winning not which side has the best solutions.
"Im Hispanic and i dont want them here"
And then he doesnt know if his parents are here legally.
Which is fine i think its very apparent how the fortunate seems to think life is so one dimensional.
Ironically if we use his politics beliefs then by default he should have been removed from his parents,put into a prision camp as his parents are deported. He would be nowhere near where he is in his life if he actually was subjected to what he advoctes
@@JamesBen937 exactly, its one of those "i dont care cause its not happening to me" cases.
Im sure if ice were to show up on his parents doorstep and wrestle his father and mother to the group to deport them he'd have a different opinion.
The irony.
You’re right. Those that are fortunate think life is one directional. It truly unfortunate
shain sanchez well that’s an honest admission to recognize wrong is wrong.
I like how all the republicans who voted for Trump bc "he's different" "speaks out his mind" and "honest" would rather vote for Ted Cruz who has non of those lmao, quite the exact opposite
I like how Democrats advocate for the right to murder your unborn baby and had no problem with the lack of evidence against Kavanaugh when accusing him of horrible crimes.
Democrats were 100% ok with a "guilty until proven innocent" approach to Kavanaugh. Everyone knew that Trump is prone to wild exaggerations and the media calls him out on it. By comparison CNN reports that Elizabeth Warren being 1/1024th Native American means that she wasn't taking advantage of Affirmative Action programs.
I didn't vote for Trump, I voted against democrats. Democrats don't offer me anything except higher taxes and more inflation. You'd have to be a sociopath to want mothers to be legally allowed to murder their own unborn children.
@P C
ok dude. we get it, you're a half-ling lonely individual coop-ed up in your middle class american parents basement who doesnt have any source of a social life other than to troll people online to get attention whos parents are probably democrats/liberal and rather nice people but due to lack of attention have drove you into the rabbit hole of the GOP to act out and lash at your parents to give you the attention you were robbed.
P C what if a women is raped, she has to take care of a baby she was forced to have?
That woman at the end - I knew EXACTLY what she was going to say. Brett Kavanaugh was badly treated so more people will vote - because Fox News told me...
She is going to go into the voting booth as a “Got You” to Democrats! 😂 Punching Numbers hella aggressively like “THIS IS FOR WHAT YOU DID TO KAVANAUGH!!” 😡...😂🤣🤣
No!!! Because i saw Firsthand. Not Fox News. I saw myself he was Treated Horribly
CSPAN was plenty to realize two-door ford was a lying proto-thot
fox has nothing to do with it...people were pissed when tehy realized while watching hearing that Dr Ford was lying on Kavanaugh and it was ,most likely a plot by the Dems to derail him. Stevie Wonder and Ray Charles can see that lol
Nichole Broeders well said. He is just ignorant and brainwashed by MSM
As soon as you say Beto is evil or a socialist you've lost your argument. If you've ever actually met Beto you'll know that he's an extremely respectable man that will welcome anybody with open arms.
Building a wall on the Mexico border is financially and physically idiotic.
why?
@@correctionguy7632 1. Corporations will have multiple ways to get immigrants into the country for cheap labor.
2. Majority of crimes are done by US citizens so it won't reduce crime.
3. Doesn't address the millions living here already.
4. There is not a feasible way that Trump has described that won't involve tax dollars.
if the boat springs a leak, might as well not patch it since some water is still inside and some more might trickle in.
will never happen.. too much money and it will be a waste!!
Yeah the border is too long for a wall to have any effectiveness. They can better wall the hotspot areas though which is what’s likely to happen.
This is only productive if you have a fact checker in the room. Otherwise it's just angry pretendland
Gracie C. Great idea
+Gracie C.
What the hell is a fact checker. And how do you fact check peoples opinion.
lmao a fact checker is a fact checker! The explanation is in the name! A person who checks the alleged facts and statistics and studies that the group throws around! Someone who makes sure to fact check their arguments not their opinions. You build yourself an opinion upon facts, but if the facts are wrong then you're just spreading bullshit that doesn't help.
Exactly.
Swantje Pia shhh! The Russian spy’s might see this!
I'm down with showing everything unedited. We were there for almost 3 hours.
What was up with the 2 cuts at the beginning, where they cut two people's answers for "Describe Beto/Cruz in one word"?
It would be great to see the unedited discussion
Where are the young people?
young people know best amirite.
@@dylanryanmoore You are young enough to live till you see the truth. You'll come around.
IN SCHOOL
@@3TYKX Lol thats funny because people think of young people as acting through there emotions but you say he'll start doing that when hes older.
@@dylanryanmoore Oh yeah. Have fun with him.
wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! the mental gymnastics I just witness is insane
Agreed.
How strange is it that Hispanic dude is ashamed his parent's broke the law to save his future, and that very boy is trying so hard to assimilate and destroy those very people.
DEADASS that hispanic dude is not uninvited to the barbecue. The Hispanic barbecue.
and I doubt he's even invited to white barbecues. He regurgitates right wing talking points I can read line by line from Fox News speakers.
That Hispanic straight lying he don't know if his parents are illegal
That dude is all mixed up. Do you think he realizes that the people he shares an opinion with would call him an anchor baby?... He is a great example of a hypocrite
That hispanic dude is a shame to Mexico and this country.
Most undocumented people in the US get in on a temporary work visa and just stay in the country. Major companies are happy to allow this because it allows them pay very low wages and the government still grants these companies major subsidies. If you want to stop illegal immigration, be stricter on the temporary work visa and heavily fine companies that hire undocumented workers. The wall will not fix that.
hesh 74, How does someone not know if their parents are legal, unless they're estranged. He's an appalling liar and hypocrite.
Carmine Black Maybe a shame to the government but not the country. I’m Mexican and I stand with him. Educate yourself blanca
As a Texan this video makes me sick to my stomach.
Politics in Texas is not about the issues and this video just goes to show that. The public on both sides is too uneducated for such considerations. Rather, politics tends to be about bluster and posturing. You vote for a particular politician because he or she has the sort of image you like to portray not because of the substance of his or her campaign platform. It's the worst kind of tribalism.
As a Minnesotan here. Out of all the voters in this country. What % of people know what policy they support. Instead of just what they say when they campaign. lol It's probably a small number.
It's a 7 min video edited down from 3 hours, keep that in mind. You didn't think this 7 minutes was the entire discussion, did you?
yup. Mutton
Honestly, it's probably a microcosm of the country itself. I don't think this problem is limited to Texas.
I don't know how they picked these highlights, but if it's at all reflective of the whole discussion, most of these people only knew the soundbites and tweet-sized talking points.
Don't wanna get too controversial here, but that's probably a big reason why Trump is in office right now -- he's excellent at these kind of empty quips.
Good point. I hope you're right and the problem lies with whoever edited this video.
The facts are 80% of the people here illegally came here legally on work visas and never left.
As far as the documented illegals go, I'd agree with your comment..
That means that expensive border wall will do jack shit to fix immigration. If you want to fix immigration you have to go after employers for hiring illegal immigrants. Its cheaper and more effective.
@@betterbuckets3619
The OP is referring to documented illegals who overstay their visas.. the truth is we don't know how many undocumented illegals are here.. so the "overstaying of visas" argument is invalid.. a barrier will keep out the majority of undocumented illegals.. sure, some may find an alternative way to get in.. but it will slow the rate at which they come here, and we will continue to safeguard against their alternative ways as time goes on.. again, it will slow the rate.. nothing is 100%.. but even if its 25% a wall would be worth it over time..
@@zinov3 Also worth mentioning: those 525,000 "tried" but did not necessarily succeed. So you could argue that some were so successful they wouldn't be accounted for by DHS but as is that 525,000 is an overestimation since obviously not 100% of those who "try" to cross actually succeed in doing so. Also worth mentioning: 1.6% of Mexicans overstayed their 1 year visa but look at Canada - 1.0%! Seems to me that once again its only an issue because you've got brown people on one side but white people on the other. I'm Canadian and my people aren't fleeing a raging drug war that was in essence started by America and is maintained by America, nor are they fleeing the destruction of agrarian businesses and rising unemployment due to NAFTA. So what's the real problem here?
@@FreightFright
if you said that America has done some shitty things in other countries, i'd agree with you.. however, when the majority of Americans don't agree with things such as supplying the drug cartels, we can not be held responsible.. if you asked Americans if they supported bombing innocent women and children in Syria, under Obama, i'm pretty sure that the vast majority would tell you that is wrong.. so i'm not exactly sure of the point of your comment..bad people do bad things? ok, we already know this..
so many self-hating latinos in texas
thehomiealan it's what happens when you're surrounded by people who don't like you (or your people/group/origin). You grow up having ideologies that reflect self hatred, cultured by the environment arround you.
So following the laws is self hating? 🤣
So true and thats why mexico, central america, and south America can't get thier shit together so people don't have to leave there country.
hector garza
These people are so famn stupid, actually we latinos that support this country are respectful educated not LIKE them illegally here, i feel bad for the good people, but they criminals doing crimes in this country are not welcome, but thats how i feel
hevquip A person can identify as an American all they want but It doesn’t mean that they will be perceived as an American. Unfortunately most people don’t see brown and indigenous features and think American. That’s just how it is. Most of the time brown and indigenous features is perceived and illegal, immigrant, legal immigrant, or in some cases an “anchor.” The Hispanic guy in this video is most likely an “anchor baby.” A lot of people don’t even perceive that as being a true American.
THE IMMIGRATION PROBLEM IS THIS: People want (almost to the verge of need) to come to the US for jobs; BUT they cannot do so legally because the entrance exam into this country is virtually impossible for them to get a chance to even take. Too many Americans argue about this issue without even knowing the pre-requisites to enter this country legally. Most foreign citizens cannot walk up to the border or US embassy and put their name on a list. Even if they can, the wait on this list can 7-10 years!
Nah took 26 years for my family to get approval to immigrate here!
Haven Skye I heard the waiting list for Asian Indian applicants is closer to 20 years as the numbers allowed are so low, the waiting list is that long...
You nailed it Bro, but the truth is not sexy amongst those who argue about this stuff.
@Well Drive Uneducated people from 3rd world countries built this country lol.... Furthermore yeah we do, who do you think picks all the crops that can't be automated? I'll give you a guess it isn't U.S. citizens.
@Well Drive Well Drive The health and literacy restrictions started in 1882/1917(During WW1) respectively and the exclusion act was also from 1882. This all just happened to be after building the transcontinental railroads, the gold rush, the industrial revolution done by you guessed it uneducated/unskilled labor. Where did I say I was advocating for labor violations? I just stated reality for what it is, and what the farmers who have tried to hire U.S. citizens for more then minimum wage and offered benefits have said about America citizens wanting to do the work(they don't). So if an American doesn't want to do the work for above minimum wage, what option is left but to turn to illegals who will do the work so the farm can make it another year in business?
We’re so screwed here in TX.... as well as the rest of the country. We’re uneducated (un/underinformed) and highly dogmatic. That’s a bad combination. These people choose representatives based on party rather than character and it’s depressing. Too many folks feeding at the poison well of partisan media
Steven Mitchell agree
Well, I may not have finished college, yet, but I'm still smart enough to know that Ted Cruz is a colony of insects in a dumpy human suit.
agreed, it is sad, Texas has a lot of potential but it is stymied in many abhorrent ways
Baneicorn ted cruz has actually shown he is a civil debater. He is ultra conservative but still every time I’ve seen someone scream in his face he takes it pretty smoothly. Beto is also a civil guy. Cruz just seems nastier as a person lol.
Steven Mitchell u got it right Steve. The other problem u have in ur country is the electoral college. That’s not a true democracy. Should be one citizen one vote like all the other democratic countries end of story
2:32 Wait until the woman in the back responds with the dumbest question of the century!!!!!!
AND NO ONE EVEN BLINKED?? or said something about it? they just dropped it
Your a legend
We walked into vietnam, iraq, columbia, afghanistan, and many others and did what we pleased. Worst than any immigrant has done. "When you own a big chunk of the bloody third world
The babies just come with the scenery."
That was dark but it sadly painted the picture pretty accurately.
Poor Kavanaugh ended up on the Supreme Court he was treated so unfairly
That's what scares me, she not voting on facts but what she feels was an injustice done to a man who still got the job. She doing a revenge vote. Blindly vote against the other side instead of looking at facts and track records of candidates. We are more divided than ever.
They guy who says his parents probably came here illegally better watch it,he is not legal himself. He will be on their radar.smh
Lol he votes against ones own people and own interests it’s quite sad
Are you for real? You are not an American, Russian TROLL! Stop pretending to be one.
Love the sarcasm one love one vote for Beto
I would like to see the unedited version of this.
The unedited version would be crazy!
stinkyboomboom it would be:
“Beto is a liberal soyboy who wants open borders and welfare” “Cruz is a child molester and the zodiac killer” and “Beto is a socialist democrat who hates America and wants open borders.
@@MeowthGamer19 it's like you were there!
Merkin Fluff that’s how unhinged republicans and democrats are nowadays.
Massive respect to the Republican strategist who remained impartial throughout the course of the video
It turns out he was on Ted Cruz’s payroll
Be careful what u say and research what Frank has done…. U would be disgusted
That mexican guy would deport his parents in a heart beat. Parents must be so proud of him.
He seems like the typical Republican who operates under the motto of, "I got mine and screw you if you want yours." I'll bet he's more than willing to allow his illegal alien parents to stay in this country, but those illegal aliens across the street? Send them packing.
"American children are starving, but I'm going to vote against people who are trying to fix poverty and I don't care about non-American children." Okay, lady.
"Look at all the jobs Trump has created" Low paying/no healthcare jobs that keep Americans in poverty, not to mention that he's continuing the job growth that's been going on since 2010, but he's created less jobs than average. Obama had an average monthly job growth of 217,000. Trump's is 189,000. Businesses are also taking their tax cuts and moving jobs overseas.
Food stamps have been decreasing since fiscal year 2014. They rose because of the recession, and have been declining ever since. That's not what the memes say, but that's the truth.
Corporate welfare is at an all-time high. They're blowing up the deficit with trillions in tax cuts for the wealthy, and they're not turning around and investing in people.
This is while prices on nearly everything are going up because of this insane and nonsensical trade war.
@Evan Underwood manufacturing jobs are not high paying, and you neglected to address everything else. Not to mention, manufacturing jobs will all be automated soon. It's a bad temp solution to a much larger problem.
@Evan Underwood Deficit has seen a 14% rise so far under Trump, after consistently going down with Obama (It did start to go up again at the end of Obama's term when Republicans controlled Congress). Saying that he has had the greatest shrinking of the defecit in history is patently false. He hasn't even shrunk it at all.
Idk what businesses you think are 'coming back', but a lot of businesses are shutting down partially or completely because of tariffs until it is solved one way or another
That Hispanic guy is so brainwashed he doesn’t realize he’s part of the problem hahaha
liberals always have to attack the person that doesn't fit their narrative
Adam Alkhafaji that Hispanic guy is literally the biggest idiot
Adam Alkhafaji the problem? He seems like he knows what’s up with the country he calls home. He can disagree with what his parents did. Can disagree with what plenty people have done
Jason u can have different views but his views literally go against his own story and by his logic his parents are criminals I find it odd he can’t relate to the struggle his people are faced with
Adam Alkhafaji I can say my uncle is a criminal....he can say his family is....it’s not a struggle it’s the law. If you don’t like that....stay in Mexico. That’s why Mexico is where it is because LAW is not held up. Tell me I’m wrong.
Negro was (and in some cases still is) also a term used in the language that constructed laws. I doubt a lot of their asses walk down the street using that term openly. 😂
His parents were immigrants and he’s talking about how he has that view point because he was “born in this great country” but I think he forgets he wouldn’t be here without his possible illegal immigrant parents coming here first, funny
50/50 on the wall doesn't reflect America. This was 50/50 because that's how the group was designed.
Donald Trump calls him Lyin’ Ted Cruz.
I'm a first time voter...because of Beto!!! Texas needs change and that's Beto!!
ME TOO!!
Why does Texas need a change when it's one of the largest economies in the world? Our economy is booming and has been booming under republican governorship for quite some time. Our taxes are low, and our businesses are thriving. Maybe you should learn a little bit about economics before casting your vote. Robert O'rourke the Irish white guy posing as a latino has policies that would kill our economy and make life very difficult for our small businesses. PLEASE don't vote if you're actually this ignorant !!!
Absolutely
Questchaun- you can call names all you want. It still doesn't erase the fact that Beto O'Rourke, the guy pretending to be a minority while blatantly being about as Caucasian as a person can be, has nothing to offer the US or Texas by getting elected. his only purpose is to fill a seat in the senate so that the democrat party can thwart the Will of the People. Luckily, that's not going to happen. Your vote wasn't cast in the interest of making America a better place. it was cast in hopes of making America a third world shithole. Thanks, asshole.
Krista- are you going to answer my question ??
We of the Mexican delegation would like to trade the Cara de Nopal for free
Carlos Cruz Arce LMFAOOOOO We can trade him for the nice white lady in the front. She’s invited to the carne asada 💀
*LoL*
@@KelpShake98 looks like you need to lay off the carne asada
That white lady can take her white ass to Mexico
Lmfaooo
Lol that exchange:
"how did your parents get here
...?"
"I am not sure I never asked"
"Would you tell me for a Scooby Snack?"
"Okay they came here illegally, but my views do not change".
When did being a hypocrite become the standard way of conducting yourself?
When emotion (e.g. care for his parents) compromises one's unemotional, dispassionate (get in here legally, even if you're in dire straights) judgements.
I agree, though. If we are to be rational, let's strive to be rational in all situations.
He follows the rule of law? Is there a problem with that?
@@littlesquidgaming well if that is the case he should probably go back to Mexico, and not live here since his parents came in illegally. Actually, a lot of people who came in through Angel and Ellis Island should probably do the same. Since you know....some left other countries without going through the proper channels, to get rid of their citizenship.
I would agree with you that nationals should improve their quality of life within their own country, however he is a Mexican-American born within the united states. This means he is a citizen of the united states and has the full rights and privledge guaranteed to him by our Constitution our Bill of Rights and our laws.
@@littlesquidgaming Still technically came in here illegally so "rule of law". You can't justify the rules for some and not others, that makes you part of the problem in your interpretation of how people should conduct themselves.
6:20 BIG YIKES so basically you're saying you're own parents don't deserve any rights
"When I vacation there" That's the point. These people aren't visitors. They come with the intent to stay for a better life because living in a one bedroom apartment for a family of 6 in the middle of McAllen, TX is better than a five bedroom in the war zones of Central America. These people are tax payers that care for the elderly, cook your food in restaurants, care for patients in hospitals, do the backbreaking work of picking the crops, heck they even design and repair our infrastructure. I know a lady from Cuba, received her PhD in Spain and it isn't valid in the US, so she became a CNA, now working towards a RN as a mother of 4 under 13. She always says the promise of America makes it worth it. They are American in every way.
Every way except the citizen way. I immigrated here with my family LEGALLY. We became citizens LEGALLY. We came carrying everything we owned in suitcases. We worked hard and did it LEGALLY. I'm a proud American citizen. I have an uncle who came here illegally who was deported. I love him, but the law is the law and he knows that. I never knew he was here illegally until after he was deported.
I have no citizen rights in the country I immigrated from. I have no citizen rights where my son was born (South Korea). If you want rights, earn them. You are entitled to NOTHING. You don't deserve what you want just because you breathe air.
I must say growing up with a father who was abusive, had I known he was illegal, I would've called Immigration on his ass.
I only say this because he ruined mostly all(mom, brothers & sister) of our lives.
@@bballerryday if you fully believe that then you are ignorant. Alot also come here to take advantage of the system, or in payment to cartels etc. Some come here for the American dream...but others come here to continue to be career criminals and leech off of our system and rely on the bleeding hearts to turn a blind eye.
@@gectek You're disgusting. I see why you hide your face.
"our American children". Regardless of how or why that child is here, legally or illegally, We As Americans are not going to tell a child we're not going to feed you because your parents didn't take a test and earned the right to be called an actual citizen.
I will, to his face, with mommy and daddy standing beside him. Ill even use the money I would have used for food, to hire a translator so I know they understand me. That way next time they wont start their life in their new country with breaking a law.
The Hispanic guy is a hypocrit
don dennis as is every human alive.
He identifies as an american not a mexican. Those who come here and identify as mexican will vote for the anti-american party democrat.
@@philipjfry1383 yes, he is American but he's also 100% Mexican. Did you not hear the question asked if his parents came here legally from Mexico?? He didn't know.
if his parent's weren't legal when they came they are now if you can provide 4 years of work history you can get citizenship.
he's an anchor baby, what a hypocrite
do you even know the definition of hypocrite? Hypocrite-a person who acts in contradiction to their stated beliefs or feelings when it comes to their own self interests. It's ok for his parents to come over here illegally, but not anyone else-major hypocrite
No, he can believe whatever he wants, this is America but it's hypocritical to say it's ok for you and not others. For example, what if there was a drug that could cure a person from cancer, but in order to make the drug you have to kill one puppy. It wold be hypocritical of me to save myself, then tell other people no because it's wrong to kill puppies. You are the one who sees race, I said nothing about his race, i was just talking about his opinion. And speaking of Muslims, I am more afraid of radical Christians than i am of radical muslims. I have friends who are muslims, in fact I know one girl who is muslim that looks just like a barbie doll. she has white skin, blonde hair and blue eyes, but she is from Bosnia. i don't judge people by their skin color or anything else, if you saw her you would think she was born in sunny California, but you would be so wrong.
It seems to me you are very afraid, worried about Sharia law and Ms-13. You are listening to people who are telling you to be afraid because people who are afraid are easy to manipulate. Benjamin Franklin, one of the founding fathers said-Those who give up Liberty for security deserve neither. If you love history as I do you can study about when the Irish and the Italians were coming over here at the end of the 19th and the first part of the 20th century and people on the right were saying basically the same thing you are saying now. They are going to do what the Pope says, they don't speak the language, they are uneducated, they are low skilled. It's the same old same old racists BS. And loving the USA, the USA is great because of the constitution and the idea of building something great out of all the people, you know, a melting pot. But if we stop being who we were, a country that helps the world, then yes, we deserve to die. LIBERTY or SECURITY, you pick.
I do understand what Sharia and Ms-13 is, and no I am not afraid of them at all. I refuse to live my life in fear. If you are such a Christian, then why do you worry about fighting and dying for a country. I thought God was supposed to be above country? I thought as christians we are not to worry because it is all apart of His plan. I would never fight for this country, I would only fight for my family. you are not a patriot just because you wrap yourself in the flag, Trump attacks the news media, the first amendment gives us a free press, Trump is a con man, he is using the presidency to enrich himself and his family. I can not wait for the midterms I am voting straight democrat, and I will always vote against the Republican party. You are a fool, a cowardly, pathetic, baby who is afraid of your own shadow. It must be horrible to walk through life so afraid of the world. You need to pray to God for a little backbone baby.
From Forbes as well---trump takes in 175 million a year from state owned entities like the Commercial Bank of China who rent space from him in many of the buildings he owns. Because of this China has granted the trump organization 39 trademarks for his company since he became president. He charged the secret service who protects him to rent rooms and pay for greens fees at his clubs when he is there, so he is basically making money from the government people meant to protect him. And the Saudi government recently bought an entire floor in his hotel in washington dc for 12 million dollars and trump himself said at a rally in alabama in august that the saudis buy apartments from me they spend 40 or 50 million. enough proof.
That Hispanic dude. Boy bye.
Why? Because he has a different opinion than the rest of his community?
There was a woman too :(
shit he was more respectable than any democrat I have talked to.. you are to afraid to admit that they are breaking the law when they come here without the proper procedures.
@@chuck366ify Wow, the ignorance... You do realize that the majority of the people who cross are from rural parts of Mexico? They don't have money for a proper process, or to even travel to the major city to get that done. Nothing is free in this world, you need money to get shit done. This is why many come here first, and than go back to get the paper work done.
lepiee did you know most of the women who cross get raped by the coyotes? I have been to the Mexico border and have seen the panties hanging off the tree. dont call me ignorant I understand the issue. it doesnt make it right though
4:46 I loved how they zoomed in on the cowboy boots as this man talks about immigration visas 😂.
this is interesting content, do more and extend it longer.
This should be 20/30 mins and with some conclusion , they end so abruptly
@shurednichso to get you to watch the full-length episode that this came from. It aired last night
The one thing I hate about these Frank Luntz polling videos is that they are not long enough.
These are very interesting videos and it sucks that they are not longer then ~8 mins
Probably cuz most people don't bother to watch if it's longer
I agree. Not only do the videos need to be longer, the depth of responses from the people and their level of engagement with each other needs to be higher. They're just talking at cross purposes, without courtesy or persuasive attempts at redirecting the other side to approach things differently. I just don't see how this helps anything: no one, either there or watching, comes away with a different perspective. Oh well.
K M He probably sells access to the full video for paying clients.
Someone comment the video was cut, the original had nasty comments coming from Trump voters.
Why Ted Cruz and the Republicans win? One word..... Gerrymandering
Why Democrats win? One word... illegals
Youre one of those type of ppl... smh
another way they would win is that cruz is throwing out new voter registrations. cant get unelected if you dont let new voters in.
Uhhhhhh, how exactly do you gerrymander a senate race. So, uhhh, Ted Cruz got elected because of gerrymandering? LOL.
MarcTheStrong
Shaking your head? That explains that rattling noise. Idiot.
2:35 Lmaooooooooooooooooooooooo I can't breathe and the way everybody ignored her and didn't even bother to pay attention to what she said woowwwwww
Ted Cruz is Christian ?
The Bible speaks of immigration saying :
Exodus 22:21 -“Do not mistreat or oppress a foreigner, for you were foreigners in Egypt”
Exodus 23:9- “Do not oppress a foreigner; You yourselves know how it feels to be foreigners because you were foreigners in Egypt”
Deuteronomy 10:18- “He defends the cause of the fatherless and the widow, and loves the foreigner residing among you, giving them food and clothing”
I don’t see Ted Cruz upholding any of these truths.
christianity is a cafeteria religion. they pick and choose which parts of their holy books to obey and which parts to completely ignore.
Nigga I ain't lived in Egypt GTFO
Did I hear that right the Hispanic man voting to deport his parents this s*** is funny... lmao
That is being honest
You are assuming his parents came illegally, most probably they came legally via the bracero program.
@@garciadelacadena the bracero program ended in 1964, and he looks like he's in his 30s. His parents came here illegally, and he's a massive hypocrite.
@@praxis4375 You have no idea how old his parents were when he was born, nor how old is he. Stop making assumptions, assuming his parents came here illegally is a clear sign of racism from the democrats/liberals against minorities, especially if you are a conservative.
@@garciadelacadena he admitted that his parents didn't come here legally, you mouth breathing imbecile. Either watch the video or piss off, you babbling buffoon.
Bahaha the last lady somehow thinks that Brett Kavanaugh was treated unfairly? What dimmension are these people from ha ha ha
He was unfairly sent to a rich prep school,
he was unfairly given lots of alcohol to drink while he was underage,
he was unfairly put in situations where he did "questionable" things with girls,
he was unfairly forced to be part of a club in High School that (at least implied) all slept with one particular girl,
he was unfairly accepted into Yale where his family was alumni of,
he unfairly finished Yale with the lowest honors,
he was unfairly granted judgeship in D.C. by his Yale pal George W even though he wasn't fully qualified,
he was unfairly questioned about his past sexual behavior, despite being the guy who pushed for Bill Clinton to be asked explicit questions about ejaculation during the Kenn Starr investigation,
he was unfairly asked to remember his discussions about the Mueller investigations over the last year, yet had no problem naming 60 girls he knew 35 years ago that he *didn't* sexually assault,
he was unfairly asked to support the FBI investigating the sexual assault charges, even though they would help clear his name,
he was unfairly confirmed to the SCotUS despite having serious question marks to his character because the Republicans were hell-bent on ramming his confirmation through before an election, even though they had recently obstructed another SC nominee for nearly an entire year to wait for an election.
The GOP admitted before his nomination that other candidates would be easier to confirm, this was about politics, oh and the fact that Trump wanted him because Kavanaugh *now* doesn't think presidents should be investigated. So after Trump gave him a lifetime job in the highest court, how do you think he's going to vote if collusion charges make their way to the SC?
What was funny is that other lady brought up immigration and the other woman said not to vote on feelings but facts. Then the last lady said she wasn't gonna vote but now is because she feels kavanaugh was treated unfairly and the other woman didn't tell her anything voting based on feelings.
the funny thing is that what she said is literally a line from fox news
I want to hear more from young people.
They already pay $1000 or more a year. It's called taxes; something many Americans don't realize they already pay, and something some Americans dodge.
American like the Trumps?
Illegal immgrants cost at least 13,000 a year per child in school. This doesn't even include the amount of money they cost having all those goddamn babies. Oh, but they pay $1,000 a year.
If you take $13,000 (MINIMUM) of merchandise from Wal-Mart and give them $1,000 dollars cash. What do you think happens?
americans like big corporations?
RojSlade what slimy bastard would choose to skim 20 years of taxes.
No one is illegal on stolen land...y'all
staatsfeindlich lmao cheap excuse. Do you own a home? You better give it to the natives.
WOAH!!!! Slam dunk on that comment dude
staatsfeindlich that is a horse hit argument. Because that was in the past before the country was formed. Also us bought Mexican territory fair and square
But..., it’s 2018.
Back to reality everyone! Phew now that we’ve covered hypotheticals..., let’s talk about the current state instead.
Mmm kaaayyy?
Stay focused crusader.
That statement is so flawed. All land is “stolen” dipshit
Frank is at it again.. picks 8 on the left, 8 on the right and then tries to make it seem that this is a valid representation of America. The master political manipulator.
Should he have picked 6?
There need to be 16 non-voters to represent the actual make-up of the American people.
just look at a youtube comments section instead then lul
Did you hear when he said the "50/50 split" on wall support was "just like America"?
Complete fraud, just like
Ed Glodgett exactly
The sauce 2:45:
I would have asked the Latino Republican..."So your parents are STILL illegal?..so you've called ICE on them right....since they are "Illegal Aliens?"... TellUsTheirNamesForTed*
That last Hispanic guy is painful to watch. I wouldve fallen out of my chair with laughter and cringe
People from Latin America aren't lured to the US by unscrupulous employers. They are running for their lives from the violent conditions caused by US policy.
'Caused by U. S policy'
Such as what exactly?
Lets see the War in Drugs and past support the US has provided in the past to dictators.
@@carlosmedina1281 And how so? Pls elaborate instead of making such broad claims
For example, during the Cold War, the CIA helped the Guatemalan military overthrow their democratically elected president and later provided training to the paramilitary groups responsible for genocide against the Mayan people. This, lead to an increase of Guatemalan immigrants to the US while in El Salvador we provided help to the Contras who have been accused of human rights abuses. Furthermore, our deporting of young Central American boys who grew up exposed to US gang culture has lead to the rise of MS 13 in countries like El Salvador where they constantly extort businesses and committing acts of violence towards women. Furthermore, the War on Drugs has only fueled the market for illegal drugs which has lead to organized crime groups in Latin America having an all-out war for control of drug smuggling routes.
@@carlosmedina1281 dont waste your time. Its easier for them to ignore their govts faults. They are infected with American exceptionalism.
Living in Boston you forget about the crazies in the middle of the country
Even the ones who support ted Cruz said a positive word that could also be negative.
Tecpaocelotl Castillo what?
Haha like "christian"
BETO VS BETA
VOTE BETO !!!
"Just like America it's split 50/50" What a load of bs, the large majority of Americans don't want a useless wall.
What? where did you hear that? CNN?
The wall will definitely work...we need the wall AND we need ARMED security patrolling it 24/7. That will slow their border jumping asses down...lol
The Lone Brain Cell State
That explains the large number of beto signs.
The democrats in the room don't realize who this is. This is Frank Luntz, a political consultant and pollster who often works for the GOP. By being there they're helping their enemy.
most of his challenging of assertions happens towards conservatives from what i can see.
Are the Republicans your enemy?
He was the main guy behind targeting Obama for the GOP. Most uneducated conservatives wouldn’t know that...all they know is MAGA2020 durrr!!
Idaho minimum wage is $7.75 we are struggling to survive here.
Jesica Kriner then move
You plan on working at McDonalds your whole life?
vote for democrats they want to raise minimum wage 🤷🏻♀️
If you want to be paid more, become worth more. You obviously have access to RUclips so use it to learn. I’m a photographer and have learned everything I know on this platform. There is no excuse in today’s America as to why you can’t make a living wage
@@CashieratPublix you can't move if you live off of 7.75/hour....
I wish that when he asked for one word to describe Ted Cruz, someone would have said “zodiac”.
I love these voter discussions by Frank Luntz. I wish we could see more of them.
4:13 “Just like America, split 50-50 [on whether or not we should build a wall].”
A professional pollster should really know better. An average of the two most recent surveys (pewrsr.ch/2CWfbGeon; pewrsr.ch/2AkHvzG) from Pew Research on a similar question indicates that, by about a *20-point* margin, Americans oppose a proposal “substantially _expand_ the wall along the US border with Mexico” (a softer one than the Trump administration’s actual proposal).
He's not a pollster, he's a Republican strategist. Even if he tries to be unbiased, things like that slip in.
@Travis Forde He lost the popular vote, and a lot of votes that put him over the edge for the electoral college were from people who just figured something as stupid as his wall would never happen so it would be fine.
Hillary Clinton was ahead in the polls also ... wait lol
When billionaires get richer, politicians get richer and we the people suffer.
Beto is not a sellout to big money donors.
Mickey Lara - so Soros and Hollywood are not big money donors?
Neither Soros nor Hollywood have donated a majority of money to Beto - That's from Texans, like me.
I'd like to see your proof; Or will you admit you were wrong when Beto and Cruz file their campaign contributions with the FEC next week, and Cruz's is 99% SuperPAC and Beto's is 60-70% Texan and the rest individual out-of-state contributions?
Baneicorn - sure, I'll admit it if you do the same...and where's your proof that most of the contributions came from Texans? Let me guess? NYT?WP?CNN?
The only leftists with that kind of money are Hollywood, Soros and Silicon Valley California; they're trying really hard to turn Texas into California. No democrats in Texas are giving Beto that kind of money, be real.
Mickey Lara BETO was just caught taking money from foreign donors, it's illegal. Soros is funding his campaign. Vote red for Ted
He’s a sellout to the very ideology we spent nearly half a century trying to stop.
Yesss. I love that my state is finally becoming bipartisan. I never thought it would happen. If your state is only red or blue, you know that there isn’t enough civil discourse going on. I don’t completely agree with either of them, but Beto seems to be pushing the open minded mentality
Beto Beat Beta Cruzzzzzzz❗️
“ThEy TrEaTeD hIm ToTaLlY wRoNg” *still elects him to Supreme Court while Dr. Ford is still being harassed* wut?
Crabs in a bucket
This just proves younger people are better at debating with eachother than older people.
Thank you, this video infuriated me.
Well how did it infuriate you max?
Perhaps in that arguments were brought up but only peripheries of arguments were refuted. No one talked about specific policies from the candidates which would affect the issues they discussed. In short, it wasn't much of a real discussion.
Just a guess, probably something more visceral about bias one way or another though.
Not only that, but everybody's opinions and discussions were presented as fact and equal, but most of them do not seem educated on what they are talking about.
If you take a minute and really listen to the opposing side, you may find that we're much closer on the issues. Our current party system uses fear and anger to ramp up support. The best way to combat that is to discuss topics calmly and without blame. Remember, we all want what's best for this country, maybe we start by listening before speaking.
theblackwings33 yeeaahhh sort of. But democrats aren’t literally wanting to dismantle government like the GOP. Instead they want government to work better for the middle class.
It’s time for new blood honestly. These asshats on both sides have been in the picture for the entirety of my 40ish some year old life. And the GOP is in no way shape or form to bring that about. They’re dug deep in their out of date methods.
I’ve been living under the trickle down economic theory my entire life and it’s fucking bullshit. All I’ve experienced is inflation and debt.
There are millions of us in the same scenario, and if most had good sense the last thing to do is vote for a republican.
Because it’s going to be more of the last 50 years. Wages stay stagnant, inflation rises and the wealth gap sores.
They’ve monetized the education and prisons systems and let Wall Street run amuck. I didn’t forget 2006, did you?
The middle class does itself a disservice voting red.
@@tylerbrock4068
I completely agree. Both parties are infested with lousy people. I was just trying to point out that the populace is closer aligned than we've been told. Together we can find a way to save this country, but that starts with listening.
theblackwings33 it does, but the real problem is the majority isn’t being heard. Gerrymandering works in the favor of the few and not the popular vote.
And there are many reason why and most of them have to do with our voting laws.
i agree, and i think it starts with listening to scientists, something fundamentalists and republicans don't want to do. why save the rainforest when jesus is just going to come back and bring all the white republicans into heaven next year. or the year after that. c'mon, we're waiting, and the republicans are raising so much money talking about god but not putting christian values into government. christian values like; helping the poor, healing the sick, LOVING YOUR NEIGHBOR!
@Light Body
Sorry, I wasn't advocating for both sides.
I understand your anger, I feel it too, but we should resist the urge to become cynical. The Trump era will come and go, but where will we be after? We have the option to blame each other or we can do our best to understand each other. And with understanding, we can move forward with policies that everyone can at least accept. But to your point, yes the GOP is way out of step. They continue to push bad policies that end up hurting everyone except the rich. However, you can't put the blame completely on them, the Democrats have allowed this to happen. Neo-liberalism has been the order of the day since Reagan, and a lot of Democrats have lined up with their hands open.
Angie Byrnes
small business owner = Scentsy consultant or some other multi-level marketing.
Dustin Brynes - I'm a small business owner in TX and a mother of two sons. That women is completely nuts to support Beto's policies. NOTHING and I mean NOTHING helps her business nor protects her sons from "guilty until proven innocent" with a dem vote. She comes across stupid and speaks on emotion rather than logic. I agree, she is not a businesswoman like myself, having had a successful business for 20 yrs in Texas. I bet she makes cheezy wreaths at her dining table and sells them to her neighbors on the community FB page. Pfft!
@@candysmith8724 Since when is being a Troll considered "a small business owner" ? Selling Avon is considered more of a small business owner.
Oh how we all enjoyed the last gasphs of the far left Vice News... you will not be missed
2:48 Got the same feeling!
"Slimy"
Says the "girl" who could play a live-action Jabba the Hutt
We need to outline in great detail what exactly drove each person to run to the edge of there homeland , jump a fence/dig a tunnel/pay alot to hide illegally in a bus etc go to another country , work at a shlt job , board with 20 people in a small house . It must b refugee status stories , Jeeeez we should intervene
Yeah, crazy the shit you will do when your kids are hungry.
When you live in constant fear of being murdered by drug cartels and can't turn to police because they are corrupt you will do anything to get away from that.
Patchuchan ikr ! So of all the usa interventions across the world, this one would make the most sense, come to aid of a country seized by cartels?
@@guysumpthin2974 : WRONG... Mexico is not Columbia nor Venezuela.
M. Rodrigo Lemus well there's always one thats alittle worse , sooooo why do so many go through this to leave their country & hop the border? U tell me ...
I would be curious to see what was cut out. There are a LOT of cuts in this.
Ted supporters outnumber Beto supporters 3-1! The Red Tsunami is real!!!
that does not mean they will vote also that stat does not really show how many 18 to 29 will be voting
I mean technically its already been here and not much has been done.
After the kavanaugh hearing they'll be out to vote. We don't have short term memory loss like the Democrats.
sure keep regurgitating what fox tells you.
2:30 if you're coming from Pewdiepie
I just don't see how conservative republican voters can claim to be good loving christians with such high moral standards while holding and expressing such hateful, and divisive views.
How is this hateful?
Most annoying person in that room was Josue by far.
OUR AMERICAN CHILDREN wouldn't be starving if we required a minimum wage that will ACTUALLY support a family. You people talk in circles
The minimum wage does not work like that, look what happens when it goes up significantly, people lose their jobs, might want to realize the cost effectiveness of the pay you are calling for, especially compared to automation. State votes in 15 minimum wage, then everyone working at that job loses it to the automated kiosk.....good job, help those folks out tons. Now the restaurant has a permanent employee who never gets sick, doesn't require health insurance, or days or hours off and costs them roughly 12 dollars an hour to run.......not counting the aforementioned changes to costs. You started out wanting to help people dumb enough to try to raise a family on a job meant for teens, and instead saved the restaurant big wigs millions.
@@vyctordraco948 the economy doesn't work the way it is. At least not for the millions living in poverty even after working 40+ hours. We, the tax payers, are already subsidizing minimum wage jobs in the form of food stamps, welfare, and housing. All to save corporate america from providing liveable wages. Then we give them BILLIONS in tax cuts resulting in a call to cut social security and Medicare.... Furthering poverty in our elderly as well.
Think about it. Do some research
@@vyctordraco948 lets also not forget that technology isnt necessarily taking away jobs. Rather creating new industry, moving with the times. The buggy makers years back felt the same way, does that mean we need to open more buggy shops?
@@mandym4913 who do you think that pays the taxes for food stamps, welfare and housing? ill answer for you, it's the 1%
@@joshuas637 no, sorry, its all of us. Have you even taken a basic economic class? If you had you wouldn't be blurting out nonsense
It's funny how the one girl said that beto was a socialist.
If you're for open Borders.. there is only way from there and it's not what the founding fathers saw. Just like abortion.. started with early termination of babies in the womb, then they pushed for even later term abortions and finally getting what Obama approved with partial birth abortion.. partial birth is when the baby is actually head only in the birth canal and then scalped the back of the brain and then sucked thier tiny brains from their tiny head. If we can go this low.. Socialism wasn't planned like this in Cuba.. but here you go.. Socialism and failing government services. But what view of socialism do you have that would be better than these people know differently from where they are coming from?
@@David-ve8pk socialims isn't the Goverment does stuff.
@@kevinq8005 I don't understand what you are saying. Socialism is just one form of Government control. There are many socialist views by which the meaning can be interpreted. Hence, dictators and governments take from a particular class/classes and spread between other class/classes.
@@David-ve8pk I misunderstood your question sorry about
They just regurgitate the talking points given to them by Trump and Fox--one of which is that any progressive Democrat should be labeled a socialist, and also that socialism is the work of Satan.
BETO FOR SENATE BABY
Thaiger never vote for a communist
I don't drink alcohol. But I will toast Texas if Beto wins.
Thaiger TED WON SORRY😂No more BETO stickers for you
oof
@@vinniedennywini8126 why do you go to the extreme