@@hikeilokei it could also be the fact that the rest of the graphic novels were being written while the movie script was being written, and it's not really clear who created what ideas between the movie and the books. for me at least, I think Bryan-Lee added it as a way to give closure for the exes ig, and also justify Scott beating the shit out of people lmao
My favorite explanation for the Nega Scott anti-climax is that since Nega Scott is the opposite of Scott, it only stands to reason that the opposite of our jack ass protagonist would be a reasonable and nice guy.
I saw it as him being the dark, repressed side of a guy who's already finished his character arc. The stuff hinting to Nega Scott elsewhere in the movie was when Scott was still a massive douchebag, and by the end, that's just not who he is any more, so there's no Need to fight the guy.
My understanding is that Nega Scott was in the books but not at the end like in the movie. The idea, so I have been told, is this is what Scott would have been if he had become the 8th Evil Ex.
I saw Nega Scott as a literal reflection of Scott. Not the "shadowy type", but an actual 1-by-1 replica, explaining why him and the original were able to find a common ground so easily. Also this anti-climax is just funny as hell. It goes like "oh shit, Scott has reached his peak he's gonna fight his inner demons" to "turns out his inner demons are actually chill at this point lol".
not necessarily opposite, he represents his mistakes, shortcomings and repressed emotions, also the anticlimax is technically Scott accepting them and coming to terms with them
They never explicitly state it in the movie, but canonically, when people die in the Scott Pilgrim universe and turn into coins, they respawn at their parents' house.
@@Idealist_Metaphor Yes and no, they say this once, but then also everyone seems to think that Scott is gone for good when he loses in the end of episode 1. If anything, the rules are more confusing now.
Very happy with the amount of Wallace love in this video, one of my favorite things in this move (apart from visuals, many other scenes, and the entire movie) is when Wallace texts Stacy while seemingly sleeping
22:53 the books actually stated that Ramona did the incredibly toxic move of dating both twins *at the same time,* effectively cheating on one with the other but eventually ~rather than blame eachother~ after finding out, they realized it was all Ramona's fault for being the worst girlfriend ever and; their fraternal bond reforged stronger than ever, took Gideon's call and joined the League of Evil Exes vowing to never let a woman get between them ever again
Is the anime adaptation’s of the version of the events any different. Iirc in that the twins would take advantage of new girls at the campus in college and Ramona played both of them.
I’ve seen that though it feels like weird logic cuz for comics, obviously you ain’t gonna see people blink in a fricking book of any kind. Video game wise, I’m actually not sure, I could see that but I’m not sure
With how popular nerd culture is now I can say that this movie would 100% be a success if was released today the reason it failed was due to the studio not knowing its target demographic
Nerd culture was popular all throughout the 2010s. The reason the film wasn't a big hit in it's initial release is because it's source material (the comic) wasn't popular back then. Teen Wolf, TVD, Hunger Games, Maze Runner, Twilight, Harry Potter, Spiderman, Prince of Persia,(even though it underperformed it still grossed more than Scott Pilgrim) for the most part were financial hits based on nerd culture (everything from video games, novels, comics, and old cult classics). The majority of successful films happen when multiple demographics go out to support a film. And that's more likely to happen if the film is an adaptation of something that has a large preexisting fanbase (which at the time the comic did not have). That's often the major difference between breaking even/underperforming or being a massive financial success. If this film was released today in theaters, it still wouldn't have been a hit. It would flop, go to streaming, and then it would eventually become a hit (with people saying how did I miss this). Kind of like it is received currently. Basically, this film is the equivalent of A24 films where most of them aren't initially massive money makers but they gain critical acclaim and gain most of their money and audience once they go to digital and bluray. You also might want to compare it to the modern streaming success of The Boys and Invincible. Had these shows been released as movies in the theater before their recent success, they most likely would have flopped because the shows' source material wasn't popular with the mainstream audience. However, now that people love the shows, new interest in their respective comics has increased. Ultimately, most people are more willing to give an unfamiliar television/streaming project a chance than an unknown theatrical release.
i mean ‘failed’ is a relative term a lot of people love it and talk about it to this day, black sheep was big on tik tok like a year ago or so…despite maybe not making that much initially I think it’s very successful in many regards
Me too. Not only hilarious but to anyone who gets the reference is prolly someone I'd find a cool guy anyways, so win-win really 😹 it's a multi use phrase that literally gives us a mini character Study of hilarity 🤷🏼♀️ just great all the way around 🧡🦇
Wallace was My big homosexual awakening. As hilarious as it sounds, seeing a guy be so comfortable in his sexuality made me go I no longer feel so ashamed
Spoilers: One thing to note is that Stephen Stills was also a gay character with a crush on Scott, which explains a lot of his behaviour in the movie. It hadn't been revealed in the comic yet at time of filming, but the author told the actor, and you can really see it in the way he portrays him. It's a nice contrast to the hypersexual-gay Wallace. Also, Wallace is the best part of this movie, hands down.
The marketing really did screw this movie over BADLY. I have a core memory of seeing a trailer for it and thinking "good lord that looks cringe and tryhard, I'm NEVER watching it". Most of the time the worst reaction I have to a trailer is "eh I'm indifferent" or "that doesn't look like it's for me"; this was the ONLY time in my life that a trailer made me NOT want to watch a movie, which is hilarious cuz it's now one of my favorite movies
I should've used some of the trailer footage in the video to back up my point because yeah... It's surprising how good the reception was, but how terrible the marketing was. I don't know if you know anything about the recent movie "Strange World" but these are both proof that marketing alone can kill a film before its even out.
Not quite the same but the killing movies based off marketing also applies to major studios like Disney. When they intentionally sabotauged Treasure Planet to market Lilo and Stitch because they were tired of the directors pitching the movie.
I love how the movie ended. In the deleted scenes there was an alternate ending where scott ends up with knives and it was definitely the better decision that he ends up with ramona because they are meant for each other, both are bad people especially to their ex spouses.
Scott deals with his problems by ignoring them. He finds comfort in others and without it he just resorts to wallowing in self pity. He doesn't like change. Ramona however deals with her problems by running away from them. She's afraid of herself and the negative effect she has on others. That's why she changes her hair and style so much throughout the movie and the books. This is also why she dumps everyone she's ever been with. Scott and Ramona contrast each other so much but that's why they work well together. They make each other want to be better and to fix these issues in order to grow. It goes much further in depth in the books and I highly recommend them.
4:33 I concur: the opening IS very special and a GREAT example of the personality behind the film's special effects: if you actually pay attention to all the actor's title cards there are little hints and foreshadowing to their characters by the way of the animated symbols appearing on screen, even down to the colour coding. I've watched this movie so many times and only recently on a rewatch I picked up on it. SUPER cool just added another layer to how much I adore this film.
In the comics both Scott and Ramona are even worse people, like, Lucas Lee is a surprisingly ok dude and is perfectly willing to explain how everything works to Scott and even tell everyone that Scott beat him, but Scott's sheer assholery makes him change his mind. In the comics Scott also becomes a better person by the end And Wallace moves in with a guy that knows magic The comic's writer hadn't actually finished the comic before the movie was made, and so he wasn't sure if Scott would end up with Knives or Ramona, so the Movie made two different end scenes (you can find the alternative Knives ending on RUclips) and after watching how they each played out only then did the writer decide which ending he wanted for the comic You should really read the comics, they're fantastic!
Oh wow that’s interesting! I wish I touched on it in the video now. There’s a lot more I wish I did but the video was 36 minutes long so I had to cut some stuff out as it was 😭
@@hikeilokei @HiKeiLoKei not to spoil the ending of the comic too much but Envy does end up coming back in the last book also. I also think the movie missed a beat not giving her a conclusion but I understand there wasn't room for her in the finale.
@@matth2283thé comics take place over the course of multiple months to maybe a year so it’s brought up that Knives is 18. The Movie just makes it look like it spans across 2 weeks.
the first bit of scott pilgrim i ever saw was the vegan scene and it was so funny I thought about it for years until I actually sat down to watch the whole movie and obviously I loved it
Wallace is a real one. Get yourself a friend like Wallace Also you missed the chance to put the “she so fine she done pissin me off” video over Kim lmao
i love rewatching this movie because there's always some new little details to catch each time. i swear i've seen this at least 15 times and it's still as fun as the first time. it has awesome visuals, editing, camera work and line deliveries - awesome everything (except the not-so-awesome and problematic aspects).
Something interesting to note is that the movie and the graphic novels were being written at the same time, almost like Akira. Initially, the plan was to have Scott end up with Knives at the end, and you can see evidence of that in the movie. But I’m glad they went the ending they did. Knives not taking Scott back shows growth on both of their parts.
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my favorite thing about this movie (and other egdar wright movies) are all the background jokes. my favorite one is at 7:13 when scott first tries flirting with ramona, theres a light switch wayyyyy out of reach thats turned off.......because scott cant turn ramona on. its a small, easy to miss detail, but when you rewatch it knowing its there it just makes it that much better. and the movie is littered with them. just watch it again and see how many you can find, its great.
a lot of the more confusing stuff is explained way better in the graphic novels and things are generally way more fleshed out like Scott and Ramona's relationship lasting way longer and them being a whole ass normal couple hanging out with Scott's friends going on multiple dates cuddling each other and being all lovey LIVING TOGETHER and having a pet cat that they take care of (named Gideon) been a bit since a read them but in total I'm pretty sure Scott and Ramona are together for like a year before she disappears which happens way different in the graphic novel cause instead of having a dumb ass fight where Scott acts like an asshole she's just kinda gone one day and Scott doesn't find out where she is for like a solid week and in that time he has a heart to heart talk with Kim and remembers all the shitty stuff he did to her (cause Gideon fucked with his mind and made him forget) and he apologizes. There was also just a ton left out like Knives dad literally being a ninja and him and Scott having a huge fight in the mall anywaaays go read the graphic novels they're not that long and you get way more context to everything so seriously go read them and you'll appreciate the story even more. Also at first I thought the joke about fighting Superman at the beginning was because Scott actually does fight Superman since the actor for Todd played Superman but there was sadly no reference to it in the video after that so I'm gonna assume it was a coincidence.
@@hikeilokei You should they're great! You get a lot more context to everything cause there's just much more time to flesh everything out over 6 books rather than one short movie. The main thing that changes between the graphic novels and the movie is how all the characters are portrayed like Scott is a bit of an idiot savant along the lines of Goku in the novels where his mistakes are him just being dumb and not really seeing the issue while he comes off as mean spirited in the movie.
When you said you didn't know Amazon existed in 2010, I immediately understood what my older brother said when he felt so far removed from my younger brother. They are 10 years apart and I see now that matters. I'm 30 and graduated high school in 2010. That was during peak internet culture, so of course Amazon existed. I feel ancient now. ... But this is my favorite movie so at least you have S tier taste for a wee child.
First time I've gotten called a "Wee Child' but I'll take it with honor! Also, everyone in my comments on TikTok is telling me they've known amazon was around for years and I feel so dumb now lmao. But I think amazon did become a lot more popular in the last decade or so thanks to Amazon Prime. I was also 8 years old in 2010, so it does make sense I wouldn't be aware of it at that time lol.
@@hikeilokei That's true. Prime BOOMED in the years since, so the Amazon of 2010 was nothing like what it is today. And yes, wear your youth with honor! lol Glad you took that well, I didn't mean any actual offense. 😆 Definitely subscribed. 🙌
I kinda feel like the exponentially increasing pace is supposed to mirror the whole video game element, how at the start it’s like tutorials and slow levels/exposition, and closer to the final boss it becomes more and more chaotic and fast
"We joined because Ramona cheated us us" - Ken "The two timing sl×t" -Kyle "She played us against each other" - Ken That's what the Katayanagi twinssay in Scott Pilgrim VS. The Universe
It came out the same weekend as the Expendables and Eat, Pray , Love, and most people didn't even really know what it was. It was and is such a unique movie, the way it incorporated video game nostalgia was awesome.
That was genius. Your pacing and transitions were completely on par with the movie. I was not prepared for a so on-point, fun, and engaging. It is so rare that I get so invested the first time I experience a creator. Thank you for such an awesome .breakdown
I literally just watched Scott Pilgrim vs the world for the first time the other day and it has quickly become one of my favorite movies ive ever watched
Came over from TikTok after seeing a clip of this video and now I can’t wait to see how far you go in your RUclips career! Good luck and keep up the amazing work!
I showed my roommate the movie last night, like you I had never caught the kung pao chicken line. I try not to laugh at casual racism but man we were dying at that
Saw your video in my feed then rewatched this video on Netflix. I knew a guy who said this was his favorite movie, and I still can’t blame him. Kim is so pretty bro her smiling is such a highlight of the entire thing. Cheers.
this is one of my all-time favourite movies! i was 13 when it came out, and i had never heard of the comics until my friend got obsessed with them. she dragged me to the theater without giving me any context, and i spent most of the movie turning to her going "WHAT?". i was having a blast, though! it's one of my favourite childhood memories and i still love the movie a lot. not just for the nostalgia, it's just a damn good movie as you've clearly demonstrated this is my first video of yours, and i gotta say you are hilarious. i didn't multi-task like i do with most long-form videos, your energy keeps my adhd brain hooked. you're great at this, wishing you the best in your youtube endeavors! definitely subbed!
Thank you! Keeping the pacing up is something I've been working on a lot because my average retention was like 3% on my earlier commentaries, but I've tried (and seemingly succeeded) to keep everything interesting!
as a polyamorous gay, wallace and his boys are actually pretty good representation wise. the only bad thing is his stealing of the sisters dates, which is extra messed up because being in a non monogamous relationship means youre literally free to see other people with consent. 'stealing' is extra fucked up also 3 people is NOT an orgy. theyre called threesomes for a reason 😌
I loved this video :) Also one of times I was watching this at home a giant thunderclap occurred outside right at 16:35 and I almost had a heart attack because it was so loud and I thought it was the movie.
So glad I found this video, it's such a great commentary on one of my favorite movies of all time,,, it's usually really hard for me to be engaged in watching a movie from start to finish, especially live action ones because they can be pretty boring for me sometimes in terms of visuals, but this movie does such an amazing job with the pacing, action, writing and visual style that it's one of the only movies I actually enjoy enough to go back to rewatch on a regular basis,,, Also, I wanted to point out one of my favorite references in this movie, when during the Battle of the Bands thing at the Rockit, Scott was wearing a Plumtree t-shirt, which if i remember correctly, was probably meant to be a reference to the band Plumtree, who made a song called "Scott Pilgrim". One of my favorite details and I didn't even notice it until recently ! I love movies like that, which put so much care into putting in tiny details and references where you'd least expect them,,,,
In the comics, one of the final scenes is Stephen coming out to Scott revealing he's been dating a character scrapped from the movie for the majority of the previous volume and the entirety of the final volume
I randomly stumbled across the comics in a school book sale and immediately got hooked, partially because I was surprised it was considered appropriate for kids lol even though the movie didn’t do so well financially, I’m so glad it exists so that I could find it much later in its life and will never forget how iconically unique it is
Dunno if anyone mentioned this yet but throughout the movie, scotts shirts have a lot of references and key points to the film. Like when his shirt says zero when fighting Todd, it's referring to him feeling like he's a completely loser in Envy's eyes.
Fun trivia! They don’t die when they lose, they respawn back at their house in America, so free airfare lol Great video dude ❤ Edit: I also wanna add that you had to have been there at the time but this movie had REALLY bad marketing. Like I knew an entire group of people who absolutely loved it when they were forced to watch it (because the movie they wanted was sold out) but weren’t interested because the marketing was so bad and cringy. They barely mentioned Edgar Wright in any of the promos (and Shaun of the Dead was having a resurgence at the time.) Just all over Universal fumbled so hard.
Also, I was at San Diego Comic Con during its release, and they legit just gave away free "tickets" (tokens) to see it but me and my sister got in without a token. And then after seeing it, I saw the promos and yikes lol
i watched this movie with my dad when it came out in cinema (i was like 3 at the time) and it (along with the comics) shaped like so much of my life, Mae Whitman definitely awakened something
I was a sophomore in college when this came out. Saw it on a whim because I had a day off from work and the trailer looked funny. Had a blast and I still watch it to this day.
If you like this, my Morbius video is personally my favorite video so far, so check that one out! Help other people (not randomly) find it by liking and sharing! I appreciate your comment it makes all of the work feel worth it!
@@hikeilokei Watched that video right after this one. As someone who knew nothing about the movie, it helped me understand a lot of things much better. I can't wait to see more movie stuff from you. Still can't believe I found a video so shortly after it was uploaded. I hope someday you make an like hour long video.
Also something you mentioned extremely briefly helped me think up another part to add to a script for another video I'm working on. Not sure when that'll be out (I need to get my RUclips stuff together) but I'll be sure to credit you for that. I don't wanna say what it was just yet though.
at 12:46 im p sure the reason he says he'll tell ramona is because he knows scott values ramona's opinion of him more than knives. also because knives is a love struck, easy to manipulate teenager so if scott came up with some excuse she might just take it
this is why Scott Pilgrim is one of my favourite movies: everything i wanted to happen, happened. all those comic texts on screen popping up to accompany the character dialogue, the immediate cuts in the character reacting to what someone else said, the white dialogue, the physical comedy everything was perfect
I saw the recommendation of your channel on tiktok, came here to check it out and holy shit I love your humor, editing, and the way you make your content!!! Good job dude !
I'm curious if the subspace highway is a reference to FLCL, Haruko (older woman) is only interested in Naota (actual young boy) because his head works as a subspace gate. I love howScott and Ramona both have a legacy of being toxic in relationships, but to get together, they both have to grow.
Thank you! That really means a lot. I love doing this so so much. I’ve gotten 2k subs since posting this and such positive reception. I really hope I can be a bigger channel someday but for now, I’m happy with what I got!
I just started watch Kei’s videos and was honestly shocked to see this hair style after watching all his recent videos. Like I only knew him with the new look and seeing this look was jarring at first lol.
I appreciate you saying that! I can never tell if its too loud after editing for so long! So I'll try to keep it a little lower in the future. I love positive comments, but constructive criticism is just as important!
God I really wish you mentioned the background visual jokes more, they're my favorite thing to look for when rewatching the movie. Specifically all the times Scott goes from wearing no beanie, to suddenly wearing a beanie every time someone mentions his hair. Never really addressed in the movie but I always found it hysterical Also hi I am a new viewer and just wanted to say I've been binge-watching your videos for the last few hours. Love the commentary style and I am 100% gonna be subscribed for the long run. Time to continue the marathon!
One of my fans sent me this video because my cover of black sheep was mentioned! Thank you sm for the lil shoutout 🖤
Of course! You make great music! Your version of 'Black Sheep' is iconic in my eyes!
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it’s canon that all of the evil exes when they turn into coins they wake up in their bed and realize being evil is dumb (at least in the comics)
I guess they didn't address that here for time reasons, if I had to take a guess. But I imagine its the same thing in the movies.
@@hikeilokei it could also be the fact that the rest of the graphic novels were being written while the movie script was being written, and it's not really clear who created what ideas between the movie and the books. for me at least, I think Bryan-Lee added it as a way to give closure for the exes ig, and also justify Scott beating the shit out of people lmao
What issue was that? I don't remember cause I'm goofy,
woah i totally dont remember that at all?
@@coldcolton I looked into it, it's no where in the comics but Brian O' Malley posted about it on his Tumblr.
My favorite explanation for the Nega Scott anti-climax is that since Nega Scott is the opposite of Scott, it only stands to reason that the opposite of our jack ass protagonist would be a reasonable and nice guy.
I saw it as him being the dark, repressed side of a guy who's already finished his character arc.
The stuff hinting to Nega Scott elsewhere in the movie was when Scott was still a massive douchebag, and by the end, that's just not who he is any more, so there's no Need to fight the guy.
My understanding is that Nega Scott was in the books but not at the end like in the movie. The idea, so I have been told, is this is what Scott would have been if he had become the 8th Evil Ex.
I saw Nega Scott as a literal reflection of Scott. Not the "shadowy type", but an actual 1-by-1 replica, explaining why him and the original were able to find a common ground so easily.
Also this anti-climax is just funny as hell. It goes like "oh shit, Scott has reached his peak he's gonna fight his inner demons" to "turns out his inner demons are actually chill at this point lol".
@@willowshake023 I like this explanation
not necessarily opposite, he represents his mistakes, shortcomings and repressed emotions, also the anticlimax is technically Scott accepting them and coming to terms with them
They never explicitly state it in the movie, but canonically, when people die in the Scott Pilgrim universe and turn into coins, they respawn at their parents' house.
Are the orphans playing hardcore mode ?
@@GranolahsolosI don't think there are any. Wouldn't the parents of orphans just respawn at the orphan's grandparents' house?
After the new anime it’s confirmed 😂
@@Idealist_Metaphor Yes and no, they say this once, but then also everyone seems to think that Scott is gone for good when he loses in the end of episode 1. If anything, the rules are more confusing now.
Very happy with the amount of Wallace love in this video, one of my favorite things in this move (apart from visuals, many other scenes, and the entire movie) is when Wallace texts Stacy while seemingly sleeping
It's so hard to NOT love Wallace. He's got most of the best dialogue in the movie. My favorite character every time I rewatch the film.
I find myself quoting him with "you know me"
22:53 the books actually stated that Ramona did the incredibly toxic move of dating both twins *at the same time,* effectively cheating on one with the other but eventually ~rather than blame eachother~ after finding out, they realized it was all Ramona's fault for being the worst girlfriend ever and; their fraternal bond reforged stronger than ever, took Gideon's call and joined the League of Evil Exes vowing to never let a woman get between them ever again
Iconic honestly
Is the anime adaptation’s of the version of the events any different. Iirc in that the twins would take advantage of new girls at the campus in college and Ramona played both of them.
it’s probably well known but the director was so committed to the video game/comic aesthetic he had the actors not blink for most of the movie
Wait, _what?_
I’ve seen that though it feels like weird logic cuz for comics, obviously you ain’t gonna see people blink in a fricking book of any kind. Video game wise, I’m actually not sure, I could see that but I’m not sure
With how popular nerd culture is now I can say that this movie would 100% be a success if was released today the reason it failed was due to the studio not knowing its target demographic
Nerd culture was popular all throughout the 2010s. The reason the film wasn't a big hit in it's initial release is because it's source material (the comic) wasn't popular back then. Teen Wolf, TVD, Hunger Games, Maze Runner, Twilight, Harry Potter, Spiderman, Prince of Persia,(even though it underperformed it still grossed more than Scott Pilgrim) for the most part were financial hits based on nerd culture (everything from video games, novels, comics, and old cult classics). The majority of successful films happen when multiple demographics go out to support a film. And that's more likely to happen if the film is an adaptation of something that has a large preexisting fanbase (which at the time the comic did not have). That's often the major difference between breaking even/underperforming or being a massive financial success. If this film was released today in theaters, it still wouldn't have been a hit. It would flop, go to streaming, and then it would eventually become a hit (with people saying how did I miss this). Kind of like it is received currently.
Basically, this film is the equivalent of A24 films where most of them aren't initially massive money makers but they gain critical acclaim and gain most of their money and audience once they go to digital and bluray. You also might want to compare it to the modern streaming success of The Boys and Invincible. Had these shows been released as movies in the theater before their recent success, they most likely would have flopped because the shows' source material wasn't popular with the mainstream audience. However, now that people love the shows, new interest in their respective comics has increased.
Ultimately, most people are more willing to give an unfamiliar television/streaming project a chance than an unknown theatrical release.
oh ya 100000%. and well see it happen when the anime eventually comes out
@@TreeCookies absolutely
i mean ‘failed’ is a relative term a lot of people love it and talk about it to this day, black sheep was big on tik tok like a year ago or so…despite maybe not making that much initially I think it’s very successful in many regards
Bro said nerd culture😭
after seeing this movie i’ve called myself bi-furious more times than im willing to admit
It happens to the best of us. I probably would've done it if I watched this movie when I was younger if I'm being honest.
Me too. Not only hilarious but to anyone who gets the reference is prolly someone I'd find a cool guy anyways, so win-win really 😹 it's a multi use phrase that literally gives us a mini character Study of hilarity 🤷🏼♀️ just great all the way around
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Roxy gets all the best lines. Even when she's screwing them up they're hilarious.
Wallace was My big homosexual awakening. As hilarious as it sounds, seeing a guy be so comfortable in his sexuality made me go I no longer feel so ashamed
Scott Pilgrim is a weird way to find out your gay. But if it works it works!
Cringe
@@divinevil A little but im fine with it
That's awesome dude
Fuck yeah dude! Honestly awakenings come from the weirdest places lol
Spoilers: One thing to note is that Stephen Stills was also a gay character with a crush on Scott, which explains a lot of his behaviour in the movie. It hadn't been revealed in the comic yet at time of filming, but the author told the actor, and you can really see it in the way he portrays him. It's a nice contrast to the hypersexual-gay Wallace.
Also, Wallace is the best part of this movie, hands down.
He never had a crush on Scott, he just ended up dating a dude named Joseph.
wait septhen has a crush on scott??? whats the source?
@@francocolon6313there is no source, he didn’t 😭
As a kid I never understood how he beat the girl. I only realized she was having an orgasm after re-watching the movie years later.
I can't even imagine seeing it as a child lmao
@@hikeilokei you’re literally just confused
It’s so terrible she went out like that but the alternative would’ve been sliced in half and exploding into woodland creatures infront of Knives Dad
Not a lot of great options huh...
This video is literally how I learned this little fun fact lol
The marketing really did screw this movie over BADLY. I have a core memory of seeing a trailer for it and thinking "good lord that looks cringe and tryhard, I'm NEVER watching it". Most of the time the worst reaction I have to a trailer is "eh I'm indifferent" or "that doesn't look like it's for me"; this was the ONLY time in my life that a trailer made me NOT want to watch a movie, which is hilarious cuz it's now one of my favorite movies
I should've used some of the trailer footage in the video to back up my point because yeah... It's surprising how good the reception was, but how terrible the marketing was. I don't know if you know anything about the recent movie "Strange World" but these are both proof that marketing alone can kill a film before its even out.
Not quite the same but the killing movies based off marketing also applies to major studios like Disney. When they intentionally sabotauged Treasure Planet to market Lilo and Stitch because they were tired of the directors pitching the movie.
I love how the movie ended. In the deleted scenes there was an alternate ending where scott ends up with knives and it was definitely the better decision that he ends up with ramona because they are meant for each other, both are bad people especially to their ex spouses.
Everyone in the film is a bad person save Young Neil.
He just (also) lives there.
Scott deals with his problems by ignoring them. He finds comfort in others and without it he just resorts to wallowing in self pity. He doesn't like change. Ramona however deals with her problems by running away from them. She's afraid of herself and the negative effect she has on others. That's why she changes her hair and style so much throughout the movie and the books. This is also why she dumps everyone she's ever been with. Scott and Ramona contrast each other so much but that's why they work well together. They make each other want to be better and to fix these issues in order to grow. It goes much further in depth in the books and I highly recommend them.
That's a really great observation!
God I've read the comic a time and a half now and I couldn't put this into words thank you!!!!
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4:33 I concur: the opening IS very special and a GREAT example of the personality behind the film's special effects: if you actually pay attention to all the actor's title cards there are little hints and foreshadowing to their characters by the way of the animated symbols appearing on screen, even down to the colour coding. I've watched this movie so many times and only recently on a rewatch I picked up on it. SUPER cool just added another layer to how much I adore this film.
WHO scott?? in black history month??
In the comics both Scott and Ramona are even worse people, like, Lucas Lee is a surprisingly ok dude and is perfectly willing to explain how everything works to Scott and even tell everyone that Scott beat him, but Scott's sheer assholery makes him change his mind.
In the comics Scott also becomes a better person by the end
And Wallace moves in with a guy that knows magic
The comic's writer hadn't actually finished the comic before the movie was made, and so he wasn't sure if Scott would end up with Knives or Ramona, so the Movie made two different end scenes (you can find the alternative Knives ending on RUclips) and after watching how they each played out only then did the writer decide which ending he wanted for the comic
You should really read the comics, they're fantastic!
Oh wow that’s interesting! I wish I touched on it in the video now. There’s a lot more I wish I did but the video was 36 minutes long so I had to cut some stuff out as it was 😭
@@hikeilokei @HiKeiLoKei not to spoil the ending of the comic too much but Envy does end up coming back in the last book also. I also think the movie missed a beat not giving her a conclusion but I understand there wasn't room for her in the finale.
@@mrgtoyz I like the end of her plot. It makes sense with the evolution of Scott.
Ain't no way the comic creator genuinely thought about Scott ending up with knives... she is 17 ffs
@@matth2283thé comics take place over the course of multiple months to maybe a year so it’s brought up that Knives is 18. The Movie just makes it look like it spans across 2 weeks.
the first bit of scott pilgrim i ever saw was the vegan scene and it was so funny I thought about it for years until I actually sat down to watch the whole movie and obviously I loved it
This movie has so many good bits. My favorite is the when Scott Jumps out of the window. Still sad I couldn't get the full clip past copyright :(
If I had a nickel for everytime Mae Whitman played a lesbian I’d have two nickels, which isn’t a lot but it’s weird that it happened twice right
Phineas and Ferb reference. I love it 👍
This is a Phineas and Ferb reference?
@@alphacraig2001 It's a Doofenshmirtz line from the movie
An Owl House and Phineas & Ferb reference. Nice one!
@@theluigifan1 ?
Wallace is a real one. Get yourself a friend like Wallace
Also you missed the chance to put the “she so fine she done pissin me off” video over Kim lmao
LMAO THATS ACTUALLY SUCH A GOOD IDEAD DAMMIT
All my homies love and respect Wallace
I kept referring to him in my mind as "the gay voice of confidence"
i love rewatching this movie because there's always some new little details to catch each time. i swear i've seen this at least 15 times and it's still as fun as the first time. it has awesome visuals, editing, camera work and line deliveries - awesome everything (except the not-so-awesome and problematic aspects).
They hid a lot of details in this movie!
Something interesting to note is that the movie and the graphic novels were being written at the same time, almost like Akira. Initially, the plan was to have Scott end up with Knives at the end, and you can see evidence of that in the movie. But I’m glad they went the ending they did. Knives not taking Scott back shows growth on both of their parts.
The actor who played Matthew Patel UNDERSTOOD the assignment 👏
Satya Bhabha is his name! And he got so into the role!
Saw a clip of this on TikTok and so glad I stumbled across it! Your humor and delivery is amazing, keep up the amazing work!
Thanks for the kind comment! So happy you thought it was good!!
obsessed with the scott slander and wallace appreciation (based) (did I use that right)
This is such an underrated video, the narration, the details, the humor, the ENTERTAINMENT??!? Honestly I hope you get big fr you deserve it :)))
I really appreciate you saying that! This is absolutely something I love doing. If you have others who you know like content like this please feel free to share ( but don't feel pressured!) Liking and subbing also let RUclips know you liked it! Thank you so much! Have a great day :)
my favorite thing about this movie (and other egdar wright movies) are all the background jokes. my favorite one is at 7:13 when scott first tries flirting with ramona, theres a light switch wayyyyy out of reach thats turned off.......because scott cant turn ramona on. its a small, easy to miss detail, but when you rewatch it knowing its there it just makes it that much better. and the movie is littered with them. just watch it again and see how many you can find, its great.
As a bisexual, I absolutely quote that all the time
It is a banger line
a lot of the more confusing stuff is explained way better in the graphic novels and things are generally way more fleshed out like Scott and Ramona's relationship lasting way longer and them being a whole ass normal couple hanging out with Scott's friends going on multiple dates cuddling each other and being all lovey LIVING TOGETHER and having a pet cat that they take care of (named Gideon) been a bit since a read them but in total I'm pretty sure Scott and Ramona are together for like a year before she disappears which happens way different in the graphic novel cause instead of having a dumb ass fight where Scott acts like an asshole she's just kinda gone one day and Scott doesn't find out where she is for like a solid week and in that time he has a heart to heart talk with Kim and remembers all the shitty stuff he did to her (cause Gideon fucked with his mind and made him forget) and he apologizes.
There was also just a ton left out like Knives dad literally being a ninja and him and Scott having a huge fight in the mall anywaaays go read the graphic novels they're not that long and you get way more context to everything so seriously go read them and you'll appreciate the story even more.
Also at first I thought the joke about fighting Superman at the beginning was because Scott actually does fight Superman since the actor for Todd played Superman but there was sadly no reference to it in the video after that so I'm gonna assume it was a coincidence.
Just wanted to say I appreciate how detailed your comment is. I really wanna read the comics now!
@@hikeilokei You should they're great! You get a lot more context to everything cause there's just much more time to flesh everything out over 6 books rather than one short movie. The main thing that changes between the graphic novels and the movie is how all the characters are portrayed like Scott is a bit of an idiot savant along the lines of Goku in the novels where his mistakes are him just being dumb and not really seeing the issue while he comes off as mean spirited in the movie.
yeah!! and i love that the comics also show growth within knives where she realizes that she's way too good for scott and she lets him go
When you said you didn't know Amazon existed in 2010, I immediately understood what my older brother said when he felt so far removed from my younger brother. They are 10 years apart and I see now that matters. I'm 30 and graduated high school in 2010. That was during peak internet culture, so of course Amazon existed. I feel ancient now. ... But this is my favorite movie so at least you have S tier taste for a wee child.
First time I've gotten called a "Wee Child' but I'll take it with honor!
Also, everyone in my comments on TikTok is telling me they've known amazon was around for years and I feel so dumb now lmao. But I think amazon did become a lot more popular in the last decade or so thanks to Amazon Prime. I was also 8 years old in 2010, so it does make sense I wouldn't be aware of it at that time lol.
@@hikeilokei That's true. Prime BOOMED in the years since, so the Amazon of 2010 was nothing like what it is today. And yes, wear your youth with honor! lol Glad you took that well, I didn't mean any actual offense. 😆 Definitely subscribed. 🙌
I kinda feel like the exponentially increasing pace is supposed to mirror the whole video game element, how at the start it’s like tutorials and slow levels/exposition, and closer to the final boss it becomes more and more chaotic and fast
That’s actually an interesting way of thinking about it!
You didn't mention this but during the "flashback" in the first evil ex fight they used the original artstyle from the Scott pilgrim graphic novel!
Sorry not a criticism or anything I actually enjoyed the video either way keep it up!
"We joined because Ramona cheated us us" - Ken
"The two timing sl×t" -Kyle
"She played us against each other" - Ken
That's what the Katayanagi twinssay in Scott Pilgrim VS. The Universe
Idk if you knew this but the actor who played Scott's roommate Wallace (Kieran Culkin) is the brother of the Home Alone kid (Macaulay Culkin)
I actually did find that out when writing the video! Pretty interesting fact imo
After watching this, immediately binge Scott Pilgrim Takes Off. It's best watched after Scott Pilgrim Vs The World.
It came out the same weekend as the Expendables and Eat, Pray , Love, and most people didn't even really know what it was. It was and is such a unique movie, the way it incorporated video game nostalgia was awesome.
Another awesome video from the most underrated RUclipsr!
Always great seeing you in my comments, V!
Important to note that when the exes turn into coins they don't die, they wake up in their bed having learned their lesson
That was genius. Your pacing and transitions were completely on par with the movie. I was not prepared for a so on-point, fun, and engaging. It is so rare that I get so invested the first time I experience a creator. Thank you for such an awesome .breakdown
Thank you!
I literally just watched Scott Pilgrim vs the world for the first time the other day and it has quickly become one of my favorite movies ive ever watched
Came over from TikTok after seeing a clip of this video and now I can’t wait to see how far you go in your RUclips career! Good luck and keep up the amazing work!
Thank you so much!!
Not even done with the video but this is literally my favorite SP video, everything to the commentary and humor to the editing was perfect
I showed my roommate the movie last night, like you I had never caught the kung pao chicken line. I try not to laugh at casual racism but man we were dying at that
Nah it was funny, I just never noticed how often they did it. But the line delivery and timing were both perfect
I saw this in theaters when I was a teen and I’m so so happy that people are still discovering it. I still love it!
Just found this video, good timing too. You did this so much justice
It’s hard to mess up a video on something this easy to comment on! Such a great film.
I literally watched Scott Pilgrim ten times back to back with no breaks one day. Such a fantastic movie.
love this so much, the Wallace appreciation is absolutely amazing
Saw your video in my feed then rewatched this video on Netflix. I knew a guy who said this was his favorite movie, and I still can’t blame him. Kim is so pretty bro her smiling is such a highlight of the entire thing. Cheers.
this vid is so funny dude and THANK YOU for explaining the subspace highway joke i never got it everytime ramona delivered that line
I didn't even get it either when I first watched it. I actually had to read the wiki to fully understand it lol
this is one of my all-time favourite movies! i was 13 when it came out, and i had never heard of the comics until my friend got obsessed with them. she dragged me to the theater without giving me any context, and i spent most of the movie turning to her going "WHAT?". i was having a blast, though! it's one of my favourite childhood memories and i still love the movie a lot. not just for the nostalgia, it's just a damn good movie as you've clearly demonstrated
this is my first video of yours, and i gotta say you are hilarious. i didn't multi-task like i do with most long-form videos, your energy keeps my adhd brain hooked. you're great at this, wishing you the best in your youtube endeavors! definitely subbed!
Thank you! Keeping the pacing up is something I've been working on a lot because my average retention was like 3% on my earlier commentaries, but I've tried (and seemingly succeeded) to keep everything interesting!
This is a really good video, good stuff!
Thanks! I hope you stick around for what I have planned next!
as a polyamorous gay, wallace and his boys are actually pretty good representation wise. the only bad thing is his stealing of the sisters dates, which is extra messed up because being in a non monogamous relationship means youre literally free to see other people with consent. 'stealing' is extra fucked up
also 3 people is NOT an orgy. theyre called threesomes for a reason 😌
I loved this video :) Also one of times I was watching this at home a giant thunderclap occurred outside right at 16:35 and I almost had a heart attack because it was so loud and I thought it was the movie.
So glad I found this video, it's such a great commentary on one of my favorite movies of all time,,, it's usually really hard for me to be engaged in watching a movie from start to finish, especially live action ones because they can be pretty boring for me sometimes in terms of visuals, but this movie does such an amazing job with the pacing, action, writing and visual style that it's one of the only movies I actually enjoy enough to go back to rewatch on a regular basis,,,
Also, I wanted to point out one of my favorite references in this movie, when during the Battle of the Bands thing at the Rockit, Scott was wearing a Plumtree t-shirt, which if i remember correctly, was probably meant to be a reference to the band Plumtree, who made a song called "Scott Pilgrim". One of my favorite details and I didn't even notice it until recently ! I love movies like that, which put so much care into putting in tiny details and references where you'd least expect them,,,,
In the comics, one of the final scenes is Stephen coming out to Scott revealing he's been dating a character scrapped from the movie for the majority of the previous volume and the entirety of the final volume
Bro get this man to 1000 subs like dang
THANK YOU! I appreciate your comments! Hope you like and share as well to help me reach my goal! But I am so grateful for all your support!
I randomly stumbled across the comics in a school book sale and immediately got hooked, partially because I was surprised it was considered appropriate for kids lol
even though the movie didn’t do so well financially, I’m so glad it exists so that I could find it much later in its life and will never forget how iconically unique it is
"Come home Chris, the kids miss you" is by far the funniest thing I've ever heard
Saw your mini clip of this on TikTok, so glad I came to the full video. Your commentary is great please keep it up!
Dunno if anyone mentioned this yet but throughout the movie, scotts shirts have a lot of references and key points to the film. Like when his shirt says zero when fighting Todd, it's referring to him feeling like he's a completely loser in Envy's eyes.
Fun trivia! They don’t die when they lose, they respawn back at their house in America, so free airfare lol Great video dude ❤
Edit: I also wanna add that you had to have been there at the time but this movie had REALLY bad marketing. Like I knew an entire group of people who absolutely loved it when they were forced to watch it (because the movie they wanted was sold out) but weren’t interested because the marketing was so bad and cringy. They barely mentioned Edgar Wright in any of the promos (and Shaun of the Dead was having a resurgence at the time.) Just all over Universal fumbled so hard.
Oh that’s cool! I didn’t know they were all American lol.
And yeah the marketing was so weird for this film.
@@hikeilokei Yeah, Ramona and all the exes are American. The rest of the cast’s characters are all Canadian.
Also, I was at San Diego Comic Con during its release, and they legit just gave away free "tickets" (tokens) to see it but me and my sister got in without a token. And then after seeing it, I saw the promos and yikes lol
Cue “Scott Pilgrim ruined an entire generation of women”
I don't know if this is a joke I'm not aware of, but I did actually get a comment on this video saying that lmao.
i watched this movie with my dad when it came out in cinema (i was like 3 at the time) and it (along with the comics) shaped like so much of my life, Mae Whitman definitely awakened something
Daaamn you were 3??? I was 13 in 2010 and Mae Whitman was FOR REAL the start of something lol
It's honestly one of my favorite movies of all time, it has such a unique feel to it, especially for its time
The alternate ending to the movie is quite amusing itself with the whole hero's journey bit and then the different conclusion in itself.
I was a sophomore in college when this came out. Saw it on a whim because I had a day off from work and the trailer looked funny. Had a blast and I still watch it to this day.
Great job. I gotta check out more of your stuff now. And to think I just randomly found it.
If you like this, my Morbius video is personally my favorite video so far, so check that one out! Help other people (not randomly) find it by liking and sharing! I appreciate your comment it makes all of the work feel worth it!
@@hikeilokei Watched that video right after this one. As someone who knew nothing about the movie, it helped me understand a lot of things much better. I can't wait to see more movie stuff from you. Still can't believe I found a video so shortly after it was uploaded. I hope someday you make an like hour long video.
Also something you mentioned extremely briefly helped me think up another part to add to a script for another video I'm working on. Not sure when that'll be out (I need to get my RUclips stuff together) but I'll be sure to credit you for that. I don't wanna say what it was just yet though.
at 12:46 im p sure the reason he says he'll tell ramona is because he knows scott values ramona's opinion of him more than knives. also because knives is a love struck, easy to manipulate teenager so if scott came up with some excuse she might just take it
I never thought of it that way! That's good reasoning!
I just wanna say that I came from TikTok because u came up on my fyp and I‘m so happy for it! Great video honestly
Thanks for coming! Hope you stick around for future content!
This was super well made and hilarious
Thank you :)
this is why Scott Pilgrim is one of my favourite movies: everything i wanted to happen, happened. all those comic texts on screen popping up to accompany the character dialogue, the immediate cuts in the character reacting to what someone else said, the white dialogue, the physical comedy everything was perfect
Brie actually did the song to Barbie and the Magic of Pegasus which coincidentally is a Canadian movie!
Brie is just drawn to Canada, I see.
It really is a ridiculously awesome movie, and deserves to have done better at the box office.
THE QUALITYYYYY this is so good. Underrated channel imo. Found you on TikTok and completely worth it
Thank you! I appreciate the compliments :)
This is a very well done video, Nice job!
Glad to see it's getting views.
Thanks! It’s been getting more views than pretty much all my other stuff and I’m happy about that!
Instant subscribe. First minute alone had me convinced you're one of the good ones ;)
Watched this video and immediately had to subscribe! Super entertaining and the quick pace keeps my attention 1000000/10
Glad you liked the pacing! I really try to keep people’s attention :)
So I’m happy that’s something you noticed!
I saw the recommendation of your channel on tiktok, came here to check it out and holy shit I love your humor, editing, and the way you make your content!!! Good job dude !
Glad to know someone appreciates my favourite movie of all time almost as much as I do❤
3 minutes in and it's my favorite video essay ever NICE
I'm curious if the subspace highway is a reference to FLCL, Haruko (older woman) is only interested in Naota (actual young boy) because his head works as a subspace gate. I love howScott and Ramona both have a legacy of being toxic in relationships, but to get together, they both have to grow.
"You dont question any of it" dude I looked up whether scott was insane or it was happening in the real world like 5 times while watching the movie
Just found this channel, and it is criminally underrated. Hope you get more subs.
I got a few more…
this is rlly fcking funny i genuinely spit out my drink lmfao! keep up the good work homie
Thank you! Hope you stick around for future videos!
Saw your video on tiktok and I was HOOKED, love your energy and commentary, I immediately subscribed!
Thanks for subbing!
my guy, im thankful there are still people in the world that praise this movie as much as me
Scott Pilgrim is my favorite movie ever! Nice review man
btw: 12:20 cries in brazilian 😭😭
Thank you! It's such a good movie!
BYE YOURE SO UNDERRATED, IMWAS GIGGLING THE WHOLE VIDEO
Great commentary. I’ve been looking for another movie like this but nothings hits the same like this 🔥
Glad you enjoyed it :)
WHY IS THIS GUY SO FUNNY BRO. Nearly died at four knuckle fuckle
Years of practice (Jackbox party packs)
@HiKeiLoKei your CV has "Cards Against Humanity 5 time international champion" as an achievement.
this movie is so fucking funny and this video too :’) good job man, im so gonna rewatch this tonight
Came from tiktok,definitely not disappointed.great video dude definitely got my subscription.
Thank you for staying! So glad you enjoyed it :)
This video is absolutely amazing!!! I was shocked to see how underrated your content is, I have high hopes you’re going to be super successful. ❤
Thank you! That really means a lot. I love doing this so so much. I’ve gotten 2k subs since posting this and such positive reception. I really hope I can be a bigger channel someday but for now, I’m happy with what I got!
Really well done!
Glad you think so :)
Thanks for leaving this comment :)
I just started watch Kei’s videos and was honestly shocked to see this hair style after watching all his recent videos. Like I only knew him with the new look and seeing this look was jarring at first lol.
came from TikTok, great video man I'm sure you'll blow up soon you definitely have the charisma for it
maybe lower the background music volume a lil though 😭
I appreciate you saying that! I can never tell if its too loud after editing for so long! So I'll try to keep it a little lower in the future. I love positive comments, but constructive criticism is just as important!
I’m glad I ended up here, I love your editing so much and you’re hilarious. Keep it up!!!
Thanks for the compliments! It makes me happy to know you enjoyed the video :)
Saw your tiktok spoof and thought I'd watch the whole video. So worth it! Im surprised as to how you don't have 10k subs yet!
I wish! But if I keep up the good content, subs will come! But for now I’ll entertain the small crowd I have now :)
God I really wish you mentioned the background visual jokes more, they're my favorite thing to look for when rewatching the movie. Specifically all the times Scott goes from wearing no beanie, to suddenly wearing a beanie every time someone mentions his hair. Never really addressed in the movie but I always found it hysterical
Also hi I am a new viewer and just wanted to say I've been binge-watching your videos for the last few hours. Love the commentary style and I am 100% gonna be subscribed for the long run. Time to continue the marathon!
just came from your tiktok! can’t wait to see the rest of the video lol!! you make good stuff be proud of yourself!
Thank you :)
I try to make content that I can be proud of and that people will enjoy!