just wait until we see how they treat legendary unlocks moving forward. at this rate of character unlock it will likely make it impossible to get a legendary on the first pass, just like in the good ole days.
A decent compromise on this system would be to make every slow drip release character a 2-star 45 shard unlock, so at least they can be unlocked over 2x faster.
Yeah i half get pay 2 play in events, for early access to spenders But pay to play raids is probably a uninstall, take a 3month break and come back in new year so can unlock the teams
i don’t understand how it’s engaging play when one person can log on open one orb get the character and then not play at all, and then someone else can play every day and still not get the character. ????
That's how slot machines and lottery tickets work. The engaging play there is to see if it's a winner. You can buy ticket(s) every week and some filthy casual can buy one ticket / pull one slot and win. But seeing that person win, IE how they advertise their product, incentivises players to buy more tickets/ put more into machines.
I hoard everything now. The second I maxed out Gwenom, Starbrand and Big Time, I quit opening Blitz and Raid orbs. As soon as Pav was added to Blitz orbs, I opened 100 or so orbs and maxed him out. Now I won't open another Blitz orb until the featured toon changes again. Unfortunately, I didn't max out Pandapool (I think that's the raid orb featured now) but as soon as I do.... back to hoarding those. I'm beating Orchis tech raids with a combination of PEGASUS, and a Sinister Six/Kang team (Doc Ock, Slayer, OG GG, Vulture, Kang) so I feel no need to rush for the Orchis tech team... so I won't be spending power cores on them, I'll just stack. My Bifrost is easily beating Orchis Mystic, so I don't feel rushed about building the nightstalkers team either (I will spend cores for Man-Thing though, just because I love the character). Your strategies have been super helpful to boost my own FTP game, so I thank you greatly for that. I'm borderline 20/21 on raids, no top 10, but still a big help to stay in that area.
Once a year they announce a change that’s “the worst update ever” and “signals the end of the game”. I have a feeling they’ll walk this back some like they always do when they announce anything slightly different.
DEFINITELY not thrilled with the 5-8 orbs needed to get a SINGLE hero shard. Feels like a slap in the face to loyal players who have stuck it out here for years.
"Meaningful play" - when I hear that I look at the drop percentage for a character shard in their new orbs where we have 98.5% chance of getting only 1 shard. I think their view of meaningful, and my view, diverge a bit...
I'm pretty sure they said these new orbs are not intended as the character release orbs, but are actually intended to help new players catch up, which is why the older characters have a high drop rate.
@@Drogan_GhostWidow Not intended but that's how they're currently being used, so until they make a change, the only proof of their intentions is what we have in front of us. Spend money, spend cores, or accept the currently dismal drop rate for shards.
@@Drogan_GhostWidowthat was for annihilators, the orbs starting with sentinel are supposed to be the main release method unfortunately. They only promised 1 event per team
@krysis54 apparently I missed that. Well, I can't say I'm surprised. I've tried other Scopely games in the past and quickly learned that if you don't pay, you don't progress, or you progress extremely slowly
how can we unlock a toon in day 1 through engagement? when we need 100 shards and only get 1 per orb😅 even if I play 24/7 I won't be able to unlock a toon in 7 days unless I spend cash or spend hard earned cores
Put all Big spenders in special league all to themselves and let them spend all their lunch money. If it looks like and smells like crap hopefully this isn't the case here my streak is I haven't missed day in my whole time playing so I have core achievements saved just in case.
This game is sitting on a landslide, I’m being bought out of my arena top 20 now. I just can’t justify $100s of dollars on characters that won’t be arena meta in a year
This shit feels so bad, I’m 100% free to play and now we get to see advertisements for characters we won’t get for a month 😡 “bUt tHeY iNcReAsEd cOrEs!!” great but I’m slowly getting pushed down in area and it still takes a ton of cores to get the character unlocks
Well i think, issue is mainly that the meilestones are so low. Like ares, im on day 28. And finally got close to milestone 1 in drums of war. But, however, it is what it is
I used to buy the 3 star unlock and then grind to 5 star using the F2P event to get extra star gated milestone points, but now that doesn't work, so I'm not buying anything ever again.
They messed around with the spotlight orbs. Used to get 10 or 15 Pav shards, everytime, depending on if I opened 2 or 3 orbs. I got none of Penny (now that she is in them) opening 3 orbs.
Yeah, I remember reading something about this change. It's only temporary if you're willing to believe what they say. But Peni is available in the crucible store, so her being in the spotlight orbs is kind of a bonus.
@@BrianK-zd1rv it changes every time they finally release the key character(i.e. Pav, Cosmic Ghost Rider, etc) into one of the stores. Pav is now available in the blitz store.
@@Drogan_GhostWidow I’m telling OP why he didn’t get Peni shards. There’s not one toon guaranteed like with Pav. Now it’s guaranteed 1 of 5 characters including Peni and Pav.
Whole lot of yapping in this blogpost 😂 but it only confirms what we’ve already seen in game, nothing new here. Gonna keep hoarding, keep managing resources strategically, and keep playing how I want to play, like we’ve said for years now. Now we wait for the Sentinel milestone/event to really see how it’s going to play out going forward
Shouldn't people who pay money get some sort of benefit? It's just a bit slower of a release schedule and all the people who never put a dime into the game shouldn't get the same benefit of the people who pay to keep the game running.
@gzuspeterson4748 Yeah that’s a good point. There’s FTP players that are top 100 players in the game this is just to slow them down so they can’t compete against big spenders. Also I think it might make dolphins and light spenders pay for toons when they wouldn’t have before
Unfortunately there not listening, at least make some characters 50 shards, it seems the last 2 month 100 shards. Through us a bone and give us 50 shards
If we really want to make a change we need to do a week or a month with a boycott on spending for MSF. That's the only thing that they'll listen to. It doesn't matter how much noise we make the only thing a company cares about is their bottom line which is money. As far as the character release goes, it basically sounds like they're trying to give Whales and Krakens both exclusivity on characters AND events. We can now no longer hoard for events because we'll need to save them for the characters to just play the game. What happens when they update the Spotlight Raid and we need a new team, we won't even be able to play it without the new characters? I don't think we'll be waiting for one month, I think it will be at least two months but probably 4 months when new characters would become farmable. One character they'll have an event for per team, but that's it. I'm currently in the top 20, but I would imagine it's going to be harder and harder to do well in the Arena because you'll get knocked out by the high spenders.
They already tried that with the first #savemsf. Nobody was supposed to buy cyclops, but the spenders still bought him and the ftp didn't. Nothing will change
Scopely is going in the entirely wrong direction and are too stupid to ask for directions. It has been said time and again on CC vids, Reddit, and wherever else that almost everyone hates this type of release method.
I said a couple weeks ago that ftp will be the death of this game. All the complaints from ftp (oml event, last 2 shattered dimensions) caused scopely to give away things for free that they didn't want to and the community is suffering for that now. At the end of the day, they are in it to make money and the free things they give away get taken from other things. Personally i would've liked ftp character releases over being able to complete shattered dimension ftp...but everyone just likes to complain smh
Yep that's what I said in my video. Save your power cores. It's the most valuable resource now.
just wait until we see how they treat legendary unlocks moving forward. at this rate of character unlock it will likely make it impossible to get a legendary on the first pass, just like in the good ole days.
None of my Annihilator orbs gave me needed shards. I had to use cores to get the characters. This method is not good.
Nah, It doesnt matter. This change might just push me out. Honestly what keeps me going is mephisto
I'm with you there. I'm seriously considering calling it quits after my second DD7 run, but I still need to finish my first run.
Going on my 4th week without buying anything and it sure feels good.
Welcome to the good life brother 😜
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A decent compromise on this system would be to make every slow drip release character a 2-star 45 shard unlock, so at least they can be unlocked over 2x faster.
Yeah i half get pay 2 play in events, for early access to spenders
But pay to play raids is probably a uninstall, take a 3month break and come back in new year so can unlock the teams
i don’t understand how it’s engaging play when one person can log on open one orb get the character and then not play at all, and then someone else can play every day and still not get the character. ????
That's how slot machines and lottery tickets work. The engaging play there is to see if it's a winner. You can buy ticket(s) every week and some filthy casual can buy one ticket / pull one slot and win. But seeing that person win, IE how they advertise their product, incentivises players to buy more tickets/ put more into machines.
@@aubreysmith7355 so by “engaging play” they mean gambling
They only care about making people spend money.
I hoard everything now. The second I maxed out Gwenom, Starbrand and Big Time, I quit opening Blitz and Raid orbs. As soon as Pav was added to Blitz orbs, I opened 100 or so orbs and maxed him out. Now I won't open another Blitz orb until the featured toon changes again. Unfortunately, I didn't max out Pandapool (I think that's the raid orb featured now) but as soon as I do.... back to hoarding those. I'm beating Orchis tech raids with a combination of PEGASUS, and a Sinister Six/Kang team (Doc Ock, Slayer, OG GG, Vulture, Kang) so I feel no need to rush for the Orchis tech team... so I won't be spending power cores on them, I'll just stack. My Bifrost is easily beating Orchis Mystic, so I don't feel rushed about building the nightstalkers team either (I will spend cores for Man-Thing though, just because I love the character). Your strategies have been super helpful to boost my own FTP game, so I thank you greatly for that. I'm borderline 20/21 on raids, no top 10, but still a big help to stay in that area.
This is going to backfire big time. Mark my words.
100%
Once a year they announce a change that’s “the worst update ever” and “signals the end of the game”. I have a feeling they’ll walk this back some like they always do when they announce anything slightly different.
DEFINITELY not thrilled with the 5-8 orbs needed to get a SINGLE hero shard.
Feels like a slap in the face to loyal players who have stuck it out here for years.
Seem like it will be more important to budget cores for energy events.
Power cores will be most important now moving forward
@@RaygeMSF but they already were weren't they
"Meaningful play" - when I hear that I look at the drop percentage for a character shard in their new orbs where we have 98.5% chance of getting only 1 shard. I think their view of meaningful, and my view, diverge a bit...
I'm pretty sure they said these new orbs are not intended as the character release orbs, but are actually intended to help new players catch up, which is why the older characters have a high drop rate.
@@Drogan_GhostWidow Not intended but that's how they're currently being used, so until they make a change, the only proof of their intentions is what we have in front of us. Spend money, spend cores, or accept the currently dismal drop rate for shards.
@@Drogan_GhostWidowthat was for annihilators, the orbs starting with sentinel are supposed to be the main release method unfortunately. They only promised 1 event per team
@krysis54 apparently I missed that. Well, I can't say I'm surprised. I've tried other Scopely games in the past and quickly learned that if you don't pay, you don't progress, or you progress extremely slowly
@@Drogan_GhostWidow idk about u but I just don't trust Scopely lol😂
Do refresh all your energy daily? Iso8, campaign, incursion, etc?
Sir yes sir
@@RaygeMSF how many cores do you spend on each?
Are you going to make a video about what we should spend our power cores on as f/p
F2p
how can we unlock a toon in day 1 through engagement? when we need 100 shards and only get 1 per orb😅
even if I play 24/7 I won't be able to unlock a toon in 7 days unless I spend cash or spend hard earned cores
Put all Big spenders in special league all to themselves and let them spend all their lunch money. If it looks like and smells like crap hopefully this isn't the case here my streak is I haven't missed day in my whole time playing so I have core achievements saved just in case.
This game is sitting on a landslide, I’m being bought out of my arena top 20 now. I just can’t justify $100s of dollars on characters that won’t be arena meta in a year
This shit feels so bad, I’m 100% free to play and now we get to see advertisements for characters we won’t get for a month 😡 “bUt tHeY iNcReAsEd cOrEs!!” great but I’m slowly getting pushed down in area and it still takes a ton of cores to get the character unlocks
Well i think, issue is mainly that the meilestones are so low. Like ares, im on day 28. And finally got close to milestone 1 in drums of war. But, however, it is what it is
Unless you hoarded iso-8 then getting the 40 Gladiator shards is not easy to get
Lmao just spent all my cores to unlock sentinel! I should probably calm down with unlocking raid characters. They'll come eventually.
I used to buy the 3 star unlock and then grind to 5 star using the F2P event to get extra star gated milestone points, but now that doesn't work, so I'm not buying anything ever again.
They messed around with the spotlight orbs. Used to get 10 or 15 Pav shards, everytime, depending on if I opened 2 or 3 orbs. I got none of Penny (now that she is in them) opening 3 orbs.
Yeah, I remember reading something about this change. It's only temporary if you're willing to believe what they say.
But Peni is available in the crucible store, so her being in the spotlight orbs is kind of a bonus.
It changed from one character (Pav) to 5 characters in the middle.
@@BrianK-zd1rv it changes every time they finally release the key character(i.e. Pav, Cosmic Ghost Rider, etc) into one of the stores. Pav is now available in the blitz store.
@@Drogan_GhostWidow I’m telling OP why he didn’t get Peni shards. There’s not one toon guaranteed like with Pav. Now it’s guaranteed 1 of 5 characters including Peni and Pav.
@BrianK-zd1rv my bad. Apparently, I read that wrong. Sorry about that.
I’m using cores to get gorr to 5 stars if it’s possible somehow
I hope something changes soon
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Whole lot of yapping in this blogpost 😂 but it only confirms what we’ve already seen in game, nothing new here. Gonna keep hoarding, keep managing resources strategically, and keep playing how I want to play, like we’ve said for years now. Now we wait for the Sentinel milestone/event to really see how it’s going to play out going forward
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Time to start cleaning out the office... it's time to retire.
lol😂😂😂😥
Shouldn't people who pay money get some sort of benefit? It's just a bit slower of a release schedule and all the people who never put a dime into the game shouldn't get the same benefit of the people who pay to keep the game running.
Most ftp can't build the toons immediately anyway, so what's it matter if they have to wait a little to unlock?
@gzuspeterson4748 Yeah that’s a good point. There’s FTP players that are top 100 players in the game this is just to slow them down so they can’t compete against big spenders. Also I think it might make dolphins and light spenders pay for toons when they wouldn’t have before
too late I spent on cores on sentinel to unlock
😂😂😂🎉
Just started playing a little over a week ago, got the 100 drop for Sentinal first orb, I think they're trying to bait me to keep playing lol
🤣🤣🤣 that's better luck than some of us playing for 5 years
@@RaygeMSF Damn lol, it’s not my first rodeo so I know wym lol that’s why f2p is the way
Unfortunately there not listening, at least make some characters 50 shards, it seems the last 2 month 100 shards. Through us a bone and give us 50 shards
Also can you do a video going through tech orchis struggle
Our alliance is full on just stacking all players in one lane
That's just AWFUL, and by that I mean the *new* update!
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Engaging has been less fun each week there is a new update it seems like. I don't know what they think fun is, but this isn't it.
Bad bad run lately. I bought cores to get gladiator and gorr. Massive buyer remorse I'm back to $0 for them. Bad business.
If we really want to make a change we need to do a week or a month with a boycott on spending for MSF. That's the only thing that they'll listen to. It doesn't matter how much noise we make the only thing a company cares about is their bottom line which is money.
As far as the character release goes, it basically sounds like they're trying to give Whales and Krakens both exclusivity on characters AND events. We can now no longer hoard for events because we'll need to save them for the characters to just play the game. What happens when they update the Spotlight Raid and we need a new team, we won't even be able to play it without the new characters? I don't think we'll be waiting for one month, I think it will be at least two months but probably 4 months when new characters would become farmable. One character they'll have an event for per team, but that's it. I'm currently in the top 20, but I would imagine it's going to be harder and harder to do well in the Arena because you'll get knocked out by the high spenders.
We already don’t spend bro 💀 and the ones that do, won’t stop because of something like this. Just stop playing if you hate it
They already tried that with the first #savemsf. Nobody was supposed to buy cyclops, but the spenders still bought him and the ftp didn't. Nothing will change
or just stop spending, have fun and wait for the ship to sink, these small changes will eventually lead to them failing to notice an incoming iceberg.
A simple solution would be to create a one star unlock.
LOVE IT! Too bad Scopely is allergic to great ideas lol
I’m FTP and will not be goaded or bullied into paying for this game by Scop£l£y
F2P letsgooooooo
it was already crappy this makes it worse what bs
Man I'm holding everything.. And I'm done with this pathetic shit
Scopely is going in the entirely wrong direction and are too stupid to ask for directions. It has been said time and again on CC vids, Reddit, and wherever else that almost everyone hates this type of release method.
They want to test out their psychology experiments 🤣🤣
I said a couple weeks ago that ftp will be the death of this game. All the complaints from ftp (oml event, last 2 shattered dimensions) caused scopely to give away things for free that they didn't want to and the community is suffering for that now.
At the end of the day, they are in it to make money and the free things they give away get taken from other things.
Personally i would've liked ftp character releases over being able to complete shattered dimension ftp...but everyone just likes to complain smh