Excellent demonstration of both the SU1280 and the Moonwalk. I work for PPG Automotive Refinish based in Strongsville Ohio in the States. I am also on the Moonwalk support team as well. Great work, great team!
I fully understand the need for progress and moving to new systems, but a machine or a spectrometer cannot replace the eye in regards to finishing a colour if an eyematch is needed. I've now worked with several apprentices that wouldn't have a shit show of matching a colour. I know that comes back to training. I'm an ex rep for DeBeer refinishing and painter of 25 years. I try and trust the technology but still have some doubts.
Totally agree. I started out in the late 80s and worked for a panel beating supply shop for a few years in between doing private work. I learned to mix and eye match paint which took some practice, but if you don't have a keen eye and look for the subtle variations in colour, especially metallics, and know what tinter to use to bring it closer, you'll struggle. I even went as far as doing a draw down of the colour, allowing it time to dry and match the samples. Draw down for those who don't know is when you've mixed a sample, drizzle the sample onto a sample card and spread it flat with a metal applicator. You can then hold it up outside with the car sample provided. People would either bring a damaged fender or the petrol cap. This new technology is amazing and is definitely geared towards the busy workshops where time saved is more money made, not so much the home enthusiast, which is what I am these days. I'm happy to stick to the old fashioned ways as it has worked perfectly well for me all those years ago.
*we recommend 120 on bare metal* That sentence reaks of it has adhesion issues. I have used the product an I can't say I've had issues but... I'm very anti UV primer, purely because I know that epoxy an high fill primer is the right way, if it was chemically dried then no one would use it. It's a bad shortcut all for the shorter drying time in my opinion but I'm a Resto Guy. So I paint for enthusiasts not insurance companies an that's where the line is drawn regarding this whole primer concept. Originally it was designed for emergency an small areas at most, I rate it, it's good for what it is time wise when there is no other option but that scenario should never arise techiquly but I put it in the same category an as good as acrylic primer/putty. Lol. ..since when is a small area or repair gonna be 120 scratched anyway, I'd love to know it's aging quality shrink back wise or is PPG fully backing it now ? Apologies for the rant I had to filter the bs haha Loved the vid Howard, appreciate the tech an is good to educate the people that think y can jus grab 'white' of the shelf an ur ready to paint
Glad you enjoyed it. Everyone has an opinion and as you I prefer Epoxy etc. But good to see what works in a smash shop. For me would be handy doing small parts in a hurry seeing I'm always under the pump.
Uv might have its place in some shops .. after a month the lights will usually live against the wall somewhere .. a good managed shop with good tradesman don’t need it ..
I think it has its place, there certainly have been a few times it would have helped me not having an oven to get things done in the one day utilising the sun to cure.
Thanks for the video Howard. I'd love to visit PPG over there at Eastern Creek. That place would've been my dream job when I was starting out in the game. They have come so far. I also love the new tech, and can understand the need for it. Who sells that Mirka stuff ?
Excellent demonstration of both the SU1280 and the Moonwalk. I work for PPG Automotive Refinish based in Strongsville Ohio in the States. I am also on the Moonwalk support team as well. Great work, great team!
Thanks for the info! we are working on more PPG and mirka product info
Thanks for sharing this amazing product, just blows me away how the technology keeps advancing.
Couldn't agree more!
I fully understand the need for progress and moving to new systems, but a machine or a spectrometer cannot replace the eye in regards to finishing a colour if an eyematch is needed. I've now worked with several apprentices that wouldn't have a shit show of matching a colour. I know that comes back to training. I'm an ex rep for DeBeer refinishing and painter of 25 years. I try and trust the technology but still have some doubts.
I think you hit the nail on the head with the new painters. It will be like old school panel beating skills.
Totally agree. I started out in the late 80s and worked for a panel beating supply shop for a few years in between doing private work.
I learned to mix and eye match paint which took some practice, but if you don't have a keen eye and look for the subtle variations in colour, especially metallics, and know what tinter to use to bring it closer, you'll struggle.
I even went as far as doing a draw down of the colour, allowing it time to dry and match the samples. Draw down for those who don't know is when you've mixed a sample, drizzle the sample onto a sample card and spread it flat with a metal applicator. You can then hold it up outside with the car sample provided. People would either bring a damaged fender or the petrol cap.
This new technology is amazing and is definitely geared towards the busy workshops where time saved is more money made, not so much the home enthusiast, which is what I am these days. I'm happy to stick to the old fashioned ways as it has worked perfectly well for me all those years ago.
Wow..that was like watching paint dry. 😊 I’m just trying to be funny. Cheers again for the video, love your channel.
Thanks mate, had me there for a minute
*we recommend 120 on bare metal*
That sentence reaks of it has adhesion issues. I have used the product an I can't say I've had issues but...
I'm very anti UV primer, purely because I know that epoxy an high fill primer is the right way, if it was chemically dried then no one would use it. It's a bad shortcut all for the shorter drying time in my opinion but I'm a Resto Guy. So I paint for enthusiasts not insurance companies an that's where the line is drawn regarding this whole primer concept.
Originally it was designed for emergency an small areas at most, I rate it, it's good for what it is time wise when there is no other option but that scenario should never arise techiquly but I put it in the same category an as good as acrylic primer/putty. Lol.
..since when is a small area or repair gonna be 120 scratched anyway, I'd love to know it's aging quality shrink back wise or is PPG fully backing it now ?
Apologies for the rant I had to filter the bs haha
Loved the vid Howard, appreciate the tech an is good to educate the people that think y can jus grab 'white' of the shelf an ur ready to paint
Glad you enjoyed it. Everyone has an opinion and as you I prefer Epoxy etc. But good to see what works in a smash shop. For me would be handy doing small parts in a hurry seeing I'm always under the pump.
Uv might have its place in some shops .. after a month the lights will usually live against the wall somewhere ..
a good managed shop with good tradesman don’t need it ..
I think it has its place, there certainly have been a few times it would have helped me not having an oven to get things done in the one day utilising the sun to cure.
i remember when dad rebuilt a wooden speed boat the primer needed to be watered with a hose to cure because it wouldnt dry normally
That sounds interesting
Thanks for the video Howard. I'd love to visit PPG over there at Eastern Creek.
That place would've been my dream job when I was starting out in the game. They have come so far.
I also love the new tech, and can understand the need for it.
Who sells that Mirka stuff ?
Platinum paints in Sydney or any PPG distributor www.ppgrefinish.com.au/Distributors/Australia.aspx