Why Karate DOESN'T WORK - Jesse Enkamp
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- Опубликовано: 17 мар 2019
- Learn the difference between traditional Okinawan karate, modern Japanese karate and Olympic sports karate from Jesse Enkamp (The Karate Nerd) in this explanation about why karate "doesn't work"!
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Karate works if you use it to defend yourself I mean self defense (you don't challenge people to fight but) and if you want to use it on UFC you have to modify it just like Lyoto Machida and Wonderboy Thompson. Mix it with grappling art and it will work
Hey Jesse I just wanted to say that I’m a karate practitioner and I find karate works, in many more ways then we think.. I don’t regret my choice of starting a path a few years back because it helped me find who I am inside and become a great father figure for my son.. helped me through a lot. Sorry for the long comment. And thanks Jesse for everything
It's all a state of mind for me. If you dont doubt yourself, and train effectively then it will work. The self perfecting aspect didnt even need to go into play. Because when self protection was hot, it was like you were carrying a gun. To only be used in defense
Edit: Living in America, being a martial artist isn't easy. Because martial arts is treated like you're using a gun. And if they can. they'll use it against you in court. So you gotta lay low about who you tell
Karate certainly can work but I think it when it come defending yourself on the streat or keeping yourself safe on the streat it is a whole lot easier to do that than winning a competive karate match or winning a competive match of any combat sport.
Many MMA people tend to bash karate especaily point karate but as far as point karate goes I think an advantage it would give to an MMA fighter is that because point karate does not use powerful blows so it could potentialy encourage an MMA fighter to focus more on mobility.
As Bruce Lee said " A punch is a punch, and a kick is a kick." Just knowing where and when to use them is up to the fighter.
I thought the quote was "A punch is just like a punch, a kick is just like a kick." to mean that every movement changes according to circumstance and there is no rigid, single 'way' to do it right. He's also quoted as saying there are no segments of totality, pointing to how the end of one movement can set up or be part of another.
Basically, he was the very last thinker to apply relativity to a field.
Its the right punch or kick for the right situation we can not anticipate with the outcome . We dont know what kick we need before any moment. It must happen without thinking . That way we must learn all styles and train them so mutch So we can use attack like a reflex
I think Bruce's approach to martial arts and fighting really comes down to his water quote. "Be formless, shapeless. Like water. You pour water into a cup it becomes the cup. You pour water into a tea pot it becomes the teapot. Water can flow or it can crash."
The ability to adapt is what is most valuable. I think alot of people (nobody in this comment section above^) really don't understand this concept. They always try to compare styles. Karate vs judo. Jiu jitsu vs taekwondo. MMA vs traditional martial arts. I think to observe the benefits and drawbacks by comparing styles you get a valuable discussion. But most often people these days love to say that one or the other is "practical/useful/useless". Which is extremely silly. I asked a wing Chun sifu about this once and he responded with the scenario. "So if you are a wing Chun guy and you happen to be fighting a jiu jistu guy right. You obviously don't wanna fight on the ground. You don't wanna play his game you wanna make him play your game." Which I think sums it up well also. Adapt. Something else I find alot of people say to criticize any martial art is this. "Okay what if you do this... But then they do this. What then?" And they say this line to say that "oh you're whole martial art practice is worthless cuz this one technique can be mitigated." Which again is absolutely silly. If you throw a punch and they block it or Dodge it whatever. Obviously you do something else! It's not the end of the engagement if your punch doesn't land. Ofc we want to train so that every strike we throw DOES land. But just because it doesn't land doesn't mean " you lose ". You adapt. You do something else. It's not that complicated. But people love throwing ego and vanity into this topic which is crass and alittle disgusting. Sure it builds confidence to learn a kind of self defense. But like miyagi said in the karate kid "Someone always gets hurt."
yeah, but is not about punchies and kickies, is about rules. If you are training in a style when you can kick the groin or punch the face, when you goes to street fight, you won't be able to defend yourself against punch and kicks in the face or groin. I should not ignore muscular memory in the fight.
@@yeetman4953 yeah, but, you'll know how to defend yourself against it? If in your sparring you never train how to defend against a kick in the groin, you'll not be able to do that in real situation.
“Never limit yourself to just one style.”-Bruce Lee
I mean also said "I don't fear a man who practice 10,000 kicks I fear a man who has practiced one kick 10,000 times" soooo 🤦♂️
@@cagefreequeso300 Which means very likely: 1. If there is a better technique use it, even if it's another style. And 2. train for mastery, not for variety. So very likely (not garuanteed) no contradition.
Karate means empty hands, at its core it should be adaptive but somehow became rigid.
@@cagefreequeso300 one kick 10,000 times and proper guard
That's actually a quote from Van Damme in Bloodsport
"I never said this"
~Bruce Lee
I dont remember saying this. - Buddha
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Karate is very useful when you understand the application and mechanics behind the techniques. A solid karate base will give you an advantage over the average person in a combat situation
trouble is, the "average person" isn't generally the one attacking you. It's the aggressive one whose been in lots of fights.
@@magwan77 not really anyone who can get drunk
correct! know not only the how, but also the why!
magwan77 I have purple belt in karate, I learned how to make someone let their hand go no matter how that big someone is, or what to do when being attacked with knife
Yeah, and if you are a good Black belt, theyre done
If you think karate is bullshit, watch a full contact karate tournament. I practice Muay Thai and have for a long time. A lot of those hard core karate practitioners are pretty badass. Respect man.
That's *full contact* Karate. What about the other ones?
@@b3nl555 it is still karate i practice kyokoshin
@@lauritsjacobsen8345 Good point.
@@lauritsjacobsen8345 kyokushin is full contact, im at iko2 shinkyokushinkai
They’re fast and aggressive as fuk when sparring and my striking background is western boxing, American kick boxing and tkd
"Miyagi no fight for points. Miyagi fight for life!"
Edwin Serrano He is the best Karate Nerd. 😎 You can see interesting videos about Karate in my channel too😊😉🙏
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Yes!!
@@necromanteerrante8095 Pat Morita never claimed to be a martial artist, although Goju-Ryu was developed by Chojun Miyagi . Hence the name of the character. ;)
Edwin Serrano oss
I have been training for 40+ years. Karate saved my life a number of times - only one of those times was in a fight against multiple opponents trying to mug me. The other times were in life’s difficult situations, when major loss had occurred - when life did not seem to matter much. On an everyday basis it has helped me to live an authentic life - in that sense it saved my life every day. I know who I am and I know what I am doing - that seem like a rare condition these days. I am not sure that I completely agree with the clean divisions being portrayed by Jesse - but I occasionaly enjoy his videos.
But will it save u against a grappler
@@redlawton8896 depends on ho taught you and hat you were taught. I trained at a school that went more towards practical self defence than sport. e were taught to end the fight in 30 seconds or less! which means devastating strikes to targets that may stop or halt the opponent. all the while taking in the situation. example, what if its a friend who is drunk? of course you do not want to hurt him so you use more controlling techniques. but if its someone ho is trying to really harm you, then strike fast, strike hard and end it!! primary targets to effect the most impact.
@@stevendoty9408 What kind of Karate were you taught and what school trained you that Karate ?
@@girijyanmurugathas3896 shaolin kenpo with a mix of american kenpo. learned in Mass. a long time ago. we even had a reality night where you had to spar around tables, chairs, etc. maybe one would take place in an alley, or crowded parking lot, etc. also trained in street clothes at least once a month.
@@stevendoty9408 Thats cool. I still didn't the school that you trained them in though?
I am a Kyokushin Karateka and full contact karate is one hell of a martial art, also practiced Muay Thai and kickboxing, and i have go say, Kyokushin is one tough and useful martial arts
what other types of full contact karate is there other than kyokushin?
Does this fall into the Okinawan type that he mentioned ?
Indeed
@Suryadeep Misha japanese karate yes american karate not really.
@Ilyas Shirwani Ashihara and Enshin Karate are quite popular, especially the latter one, and both have their parenthood in Kyokushin. Another interesting style is Kudo. You could describe Kudo as MMA karate.
I was involved in law enforcement for 30 years , the low side kick against an aggressive determined attacker saved me more times than I can remember. Karate do.
ACAB
What style did you do
@@Syn7axErr0r Wado Ryu but all styles of karate will be effective.I live in UK so we don,t have guns. A low fast front foot side kick against an offender moving in quickly towards you usually stops them in their tracks and allows you take further action e.g. cuffs , baton strike.
@@jwgitface I just started studying in tang su doo
@@Syn7axErr0r Good luck on your journey.Don,t try to run before you can walk - practice makes perfect. If you can do something every day then your progress will be swift.Always listen to your instructor , he knows best.
I trained in Isshinryu Karate growing up and competed in some local tournaments back in the day. Sure, maybe wrestling, or some boxing, or Jiu Jitsu might be better at self-defense in many ways, but my Isshinryu got me through a very rough childhood. I was bullied when I was really young and once I got good at karate, I started fighting back. I got into a few fights, won them all with ease, and the bullying ceased altogether. Does karate work? It sure did for me.
I trained in Isshinryu as well for about 10 years or so. And had very similar experience growing up.
I would agree that Karate does work. At least it did for me. But I also think you need a teacher that will show you how to apply it properly.
@@TurtleDude05 I had a similar experience with judo in the 60's meaning that after throwing a few bullies I was pretty much left alone. Still got talked crap to, as boys are going to do no matter what, but they always stopped short of getting physical. Much of this video applies to judo as well. Street judo ain't tournament judo but the dojo training is essential to effective street judo. One simply needs to forget any rules and reliance on a gi and naturally add back in the ear biting, punches, eye gouging, etc., of a real fight.:)
That's rad. Great style, with a lot of teachers who would teach good application.
@@shanefistell8890
It really doesn't matter what is hidden in Kata if it's never trained.
Cool. I'm learning Okinawa Karate.
I bet that the karate inventor had a younger brother or who would he try those moves on
PS1 Hagrid they were farmers practicing on each other getting ready for the samurai.
Ah ah ah😅😂
@@lionelndalanids6171 they were the samurai all along
@@danceswithspiders2309 uh... i think the samurai society already fell by that time.
Karate is the best
“Karate is uless”
Well yes, but actually no
Well no, but actually yes
Ok icy mike
Confuscious say
Best way to gauge: If you have to put in "special conditions" before it becomes useful, then it is not truly useful.
Uless
It's based on styles
I would not mess with an experienced kyokushin fighter. Those guys are tough as nails
I second that, I came from muay thai and fought in a kyokushin tournament, one of my opponent was eating headkicks like pancakes. He was like a wall of bricks.
I'm trying to get into kyokushin
@@OnyxXThePunch Do...no try.... haha ;)
I wonder if kyokushin fighters age well.
@@psuedomonas1 they dont.
A Crane Kick always works, except in every sequel of course...
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My Sayonachi is better than your crane kick, thank you!
None of them did it properly.
Didn't do it right
My Sensei always told me: "one hit one life". He always explained me that each hit I throw must be thinking in breaking bones or causing so much pain that the attacker should rethink in going on with the fight or if u are lucky or good enough one simple hit must "kill" (KO) the oponent.
So no matter how nor where, nor matter if its not an beatiful movement, even if u think u are screwed ... a simple blow in the throat or eyes can give you secods to run or maybe to "win' a fight.
@Vegan Pete Hats off best comment ever !
Did he have a big cobra painted on the wall with "No mercy!"?
@@SamuraiPoohBearBudoBear Hahaha no, it was the Dojo Kun that was painted.
See the problem with that kind of thinking is yes in self defense but when it comes to competition against other elite opponents that is a weakness. The ability to very the power of your strikes is fundamental to fighting other elite fighters.
Rokas on his YT channel posted his first MMA fight and to me this problem was glaring. His jab was too strong. He couldn't set up off his jab because he jab moved his opponent back too much this limited his ability to throw combinations off his jab.
If you watch an elite boxer like GGG he varies the power of his jab. GGG actually has 3 jabs. He doesn't throw his full force jab until his opponents back is against the ropes or if he wants his opponent to back off.
Foreman v. Moore is also a great example. Foreman pulled his punches most of the fight to trick Moore into standing right in front of him. Foreman was afraid that if he hurt Moore early that Moore would get on his bicycle and Foreman would never catch him.
Also when someone attacks you you have to use double standards. ONe is .. avoid any attack as it is like infinite power. On the other hand if you get hit.. Treat it like a touch of a butterfly .. If you can.. that is.. If you cannot then you already lost. If you follow this you will be invinsible in battle. If you are lucky that is.
I am a taekwondo athlete for more then 20 years. I must agree with everything Jesse is saying. Taekwondo right now is a sport. Self defense isn't priority anymore. It is about winning matches or depends which shool you go to developing character. I don't mind this. I just wish the leaders would stop calling it a self defense "sport". It is not a self defense sport. It is just a sport.
Thank you Jesse
finally someone that has some sense here if you want self defense just do boxing
@@samuraigameing9556, boxing will only help you a little bit when it comes to self defense. But at then end of the day. There is no perfect self defense. All these self defense disciplines just increases your chances of survival. Do get the right self defense for you. Most taekwondo schools aren't a self defense school anymore sadly. In that case boxing is better, if you get sparring practice.
@@armyparty yeah true there will never be a perfect self defense at the end of the day its just how you react in different situations
Exactly.
Yes... I have trained in MMA and Karate is effective. Several techniques are applicable in MMA. Karate stances can be subject for a take down. A well versed Karate practitioner against a completely untrained attacker can be very effective. Point style karate is effective against the other using Karate. All martial arts have techniques that are useful.
Karate works. I was attacked by a violent, drunken neighbour who was beating up his wife in the street. I walked into the conflagration by mistake and he turned on me. I defended myself using my limited knowledge of Karate. I only ever went up 2 belts in Shotokan but it was enough to hold my own. I stopped my attacker with a swift kick to the Bojangles.
because he was drunk.
modern karate is not very good for defending yourself on the street.
Please don't kick me...
@@sameedyousuf6036 No, we are actually taught to be a lot more loose on the street, but in the dojo its more so the spiritual thing so we are not going to always have a deep and strong ass stance in a real fight.
Draw Kage You wouldn’t last 2 minutes against a MT fighter with 6 months of training
@@manlikemb6226 Its funny to see americans talking about karate, they probably have the worst karate in the planet.
"Karate doesn't work". I thought Machida blew that concept out of the water with his heavily Karate focused MMA, or does that not count?
Also gsp, wonderboy, Michelle waterson
No, because he’s a genius?
@@jw-nz2vx See his fights man, that's karate punches and movements. The guy made UFC guys look like amateurs for a long time.
People need to have respect because BJJ is just old judo newaza.
karate wont work in mma if u just learn karate. same goes for every martial art
No as Jesse wasn't allowed to do a dozwn moves on his brother due to the rules
I have been training in shotokan for almost 3 years and my sensei once did a demonstration of the origin of our style me and my club members acted it out it helped me understand shotokan better by showing me that our style is purely defensive.
He did this just to help me with tekki nidan.
I miss my club
My club members and I acted out the tales of our Master, pretty much sums up karate and the fantasy life of TMAs
So you got your first Dan as it takes two years good for you
I know few karate guys who've been attacked on the street by multiple opponents and came out as winners pretty much unharmed
Just do a shouryuken and hadoken. : 3
What style was they using
People tend to forget lowering their morale helps.
The Martial art god the doesn’t matter
@@glens2019 one thing i realised when i was bullied at school that it isnt the strongest guy that wins a (normal street) fight. It is the one that uses everything he has, the one that shows no remorse. I was(and i still am) pretty small(174cm or about 5feet and a half) and i am really not atheltic but i won nearly every fight i had against one of my bullies because i wanted to win and i gave everything i had while they were only trying to amuse themselves. I kicked they arses until it stopped. The best thing you can do if you are bullied is beating them up. Teachers, parents, the principle or the police wont help but a good old upercut will do
studied wado-ryu for almost 23 years, got me through hard times due to severe bullying at school. helped me keep a calm rational mind whilst in tense situations. don't know where I would be without it. karate keeps me steady and true to myself. works well for me.
Then your a tenth Dan...don't you have your own dojo?
@@carlbrierley6015 wish I was a 10th dan! I do have my own dojo and hold 5th Dan rank in wado-ryu
@@adamhawke9191 I'm sorry I have a thing about the tenth Dan and I thought that if you did over 20 years you gain your tenth ...And I praise you for your accomplishment 🙏
I DID KEMPO, yet my sensie retired and I've been looking for a new teacher for years and amongst that getting my life together. I have found one in Goju Ryu style and I know its history. I do not know any wado Ryu close to me or I would try it out.
@@carlbrierley6015 thank-you for the kind words sir
There was a time when I was addicted to Karate. It made me feel good, so it worked for me.
The more I get into you RUclips with my own videos Jesse, it helps me appreciate how much work you've put into developing an outstanding channel: hooks, teases, education and entertainment. Love it.
mr miyagi wants to know your location
pst... rett over skogen øst for meg ;) hehe..
I stopped doing karate for a long time , but during a fight , i feel like my body is controlling me and start using karate on its own and it 90% works especially the blocks , i love using them in a street fight ...
Except for the low block, it better to pull a Muay Thai for kick defense, just saying its more reliable for the average joe
@Salt and Lemons you'd rather die than let your parents pay to have a highly-skilled professional teach you how to defend yourself and develope physical awareness and self-discipline?
You are right. When you practice.... I practiced blocking.. striking a tree or so and then it was useful and easy ... But the secret is to practice. If you have no time and opportunity then dont blame the art. It is said that you should practice everyday.. at least a little. Also how you practice. If you have no chance to really practice then nothing will good come out. Also practice your karate when you walk talk and do something like clean and so on.. Wax on .. Wax off philosophy is real. Being pollite is part of training. Helps to reduce effects of EGO.. this helps when you need to dodge an attack. It also makes you more sensitive to other people's thoughts and feelings.. This way you can sense any change in mood or if someone's aggression level changes.. And so on.. Many, many things.. That is Karate
The style does play a part in certain situations, but overall the practitioner is what makes it effective or ineffective
Well said my friend - 100% agree! I appreciate your continuing thoughtfulness in the way that you approach your target issues.
It doesn't matter what kind of martial arts you're doing. You need the full-contact experience. You need to know how it does feel getting hit. You must know what will work in a real fight otherwise you will be suprised by some dirty moves of a street brawler. I did Shotokan Karate and it was sports, style, tradition and self-discipline. But it wouldn't have worked in a real fight. A trained boxer will kill you within seconds. You cannot, break his defense, and you cannot avoid the upcoming infight where you will be hopeless. Good looking high or reverse kicks are dangerous for yourself. Never forget your balance. I would try low kicks against boxers or if you have grappling skills, make him fall. I like Karate but it won't make a fighting machine of a bad fighter. It depends on yourself your body physics, your will to defend yourself what you might able to do. You have to understand what adrenaline wiil do with you in confrontations.
The pressure from a real fight is completely different. Sports where you can lose by ko are better in preparing you for that pressure, even if the moves they teach aren't as powerful.
fights are not equal coz fighters are not equal. too much stereotypes to tell tho. who could have guessed that fighting for your life is different then fighting for a thropy lol..
In our shotokan club we set some time aside for PK. The idea being you get out of a tight spot not win in a street fight. I can say from experience it has worked for me. Our main focus is not defense and I won't claim to be a fighter but I'd have a decent chance if I was cornered now thanks to karate
@@kid497gaming4 it's an illusion to think that it is possible not getting hit in a fight.
@@kid497gaming4 it's about both I think
Idk why people still think so low of Martial Arts it's the best thing we can do onstead of wasting time on electronics or other useless stuff, Just saying Karate doesn't mean Just FIGHTING look through bruce lee or other martial arts masters.
Btw DBZ inspired me to do Martial arts!
That was a pretty good technical and historical breakdown.
When someone really know what he's talking about.
The art always achieves it's goal.
The problem is that the goal of the practitioner is not always the goal of the art.
Too many people practice karate for physical fitness and believe that they are learning self defense.
An old friend of mine studied karate for years, eventually becoming a brown belt, but he always refused to spar with me. He claimed that he was learning serious self defense, and he wouldn't want to injure me.
Eventually he agreed, and he hit the mat fast. His karate did help him. He lost weight, he got stronger, his reflexes improved, but he didn't know how to defend himself outside of very rigid katas.
I face a different problem entirely. In competition, I would be disqualified almost instantly because I've studied for self defense. Many competition fighters would say that I fight dirty, but in reality, I've just trained for different circumstances, and with a different goal in mind.
I had the same problem! I got called a "barbarian" LOL! I took Tang Soo Do, what did you take? I got banned for life by two karate dojo's from taking part in tournaments. I did crack a girls ribs with a thrusting side kick. she was coming at me and I reacted. Boom! she went flying and I got disqualified. I did what I was taught. I was told "This isn't a street brawl tone it down."
They called me "Berserker" in the classes cause i fought with power and velocity, i was definitely not one of those Zen dudes from my karate class.
@@kbanghart Yea, i try but i can't so i changed sports. I'm into Muay Thai and Boxe now, i have improved a lot mentally in these couple of months.
@@kbanghart I'm not Zen but i'm a lot more wise, calm and humble. I guess that's cause of meditation but boxe is doing very good for me. They still call Berserker tho.
True said
Perfect analysis, Jesse! Many don’t understand the concept of the evolution of karate and that trying to use the “wrong” kind of karate in a fight would get them hurt. Keep up the great work!
Awesome video and thanks for sharing your tips 👍
The whole debate about whether various martial arts actually "work" seems so stupid to me.
Whether or not something can be effectively utilized in a real world situation has as much to do with the individual as it does the system.
Namely, whether that person has the sense to recognize that as a whole, a large part of what they're trained to do has no real world applications and is simply meant to look good while reinforcing proper form and technique by building up your muscle memory.
If you can set aside all that pomp, and apply the core techniques in a normal, violent, and direct manner.... most traditional martial arts work just fine as long as you're realistic and can manage expectations.
The problem is; many people seem inclined to believe that if a fight doesn't mirror what they see in movies, or you can't beat up highly trained mma fighters.... it must mean that whichever discipline you chose to pursue, is worthless and a waste of time.
When the reality is; those mma guys are training to compete, working to perfect multiple disciplines, and spending ten times as many hours in the gym as a typical student.
So... of course they'd beat the living hell out of a one dimensional martial artist that attends a class two nights a week.
But, on the flip side; if you put that hobbyist up against an untrained wannabe tough guy who's starting shit with em at the bar, the guy that knows karate (for example) and understands how to apply it in an actual fight is probably gonna murder the poor fool.
Good observed, you hit the head of the nail.
There is no difference in true nature only in the perception of it.
well said, sir.
I agree completely. I mainly boxed as a kid more than 20 years ago before the whole mma craze. I did a little Karate and Japanese Ju jutsu through the years. What seemed to help me the most in fights and I fought a lot while in the Navy was the ability to read my opponents. I could tell when they telegraph a punch and the ability to understand distance. How far I need to be to avoid getting hit or how close I need to be to land a punch. I guess you could add foot work. I was always in position to punch or move away.
Totally agree.. there is one guy asked if, if muay thai is better than karate. Then i asked him, how many hours a week he is willing to spend.. is he ok with having a bruise every so often? Is he had the energy to go full throttle every training session?
If the answer is no to any of those question. better do (non kyokunshin) karate.. a decade ago, when muay thai become a very popular sport, everyone were thinking of doing muay thai, eventhou its mostly commercialized mild version.. lots of people just dont have what it takes. They cant train more than twice a week, they wanna have a spare energy to do other things after training n so on.. in the end, lots of them gave up n didnt get anything.
Those that sticking to karate however, now were healthier, peaceful n had significantly better combat prowess.. than those that forced fhemself to join popular combat sport, after watching a few k-1 n UFC matches
I learned karate when I was very young. My instructor was from Okinawa and taught "Okinawa Te". It was a style of fighting for defense and combat. We didn't have belts and we never had competitions. So, I learned how to fight in the real world, but my discipline would have failed miserably in any competition. Even is arenas like MMA.
However, if we fought on the street, which I had to in the past, I did everything I could to win and hurt you before you hurt me.
For a regular guy/girl, this is the most practical karate style that ever existed. The more you understand this style, the more you know that this is not the competition form of karate, but it always useful to defend yourself before any dangers from other person may inflict to you in real world situation.
This was way back in the early 1960's. I never said that I learned "traditional" Okinawa Te. What I'm saying is that I learned in the "more traditional" way. Unlike today, we weren't given colored belts or points or merits or whatever they do today. We were taught to fight. Period. How to prevail over an opponent who truly meant to do us harm.
I've been in ITF Taekwondo for 30 years and have learned so much and I'm still learning. Taekwondo has saved my life more than once.
“Bite their face..” I like this guy.
Me too :)
Biting the face move is commonly used by little brothers in the martial art called "Brother Fu"
Iain Abernethy had a podcast with a very similar concept a few years ago! Can't remember the name exactly, but he spoke about how there are more or less distinct types and the importance of the intent of your training matching the context of the style of karate. Cool stuff! I used to think sport karate should be abandoned but that's because I'm putting a self defense filter over everything I learn.
I think it would be great to see more karateka invest a bit of time in grappling martial arts, I think the relationship between grappling and striking is symbiotic, and you can learn a lot about grappling from striking and vice versa.
The best style of fight is the one that enables you to save your life no matter what the name is!
Thank you for helping me understand why I am so frustrated in my Karate class. I now have the words to explain to my Sensei what I'm looking for.
Thanks for giving such a nice information
I am from taekwondo background. I started learning tkd for self defence but much later I realised that I had always just been taught the sport aspect of it. I started analysing the techniques and tried learning more from internet. I just realised its not always about what you practice, its also about how you practice and that includes knowing the context of it. I totally agree with you.
The original Kyokushinkai was devastatingly effective just about everywhere it was used.
Original Kyokushinkai?...it never existed. What does exist is the fact that the "founder" of kyokushin was a Korean called Mas Oyama. He went to Shotokan schools and some "Japanese Goju" schools for six months. What he did was practice and practice hard karate for several years before going professional. Very few fighters could withstand the training except Okinawan Goju Ryu where kyokushin came from.
Why is it called Okinawan? Because some Japanese said their version was real while the original Okinawan was theoretical, which was never true. It is for the battlefield. Kyokushin was never a true style just kickboxing for sport in the ring.
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Only 30% of Kyokushin syllabus is taken from Karate. Others 20% are Muay Thai, taekwondo. 50% of Kyokushin training is conditioning of body and close fighting. Thats make Kyokushin different from any other styles.
@@professionalsmunch3541 I've been practicing Kyokushin since I was 9 y.o. (I am 39 right now), and I might say you are right. In the last 10 years I dive deep into Karate source, became a Zen Monk and have been studying this art as much as I can. When I look back to Kyokushin, I can see it is a product of this social movement (that I call decadence).
However, my daily effort is to put my Kyokushin practice back in the Karate rail (and this is almost begin again, from zero). But I feel It is possible. The result maybe can not be called Kyokushin... Let's see...
Sensei Jessie your video tells it like it is. Your video made me reflect on my past studying Kyokushinkai Karate.
Our Chief Kyokushin Instructor Shihan Richard Wolicki of the Spring Valley NY Dojo incorporated Taijutsu techniques with our Kyokushin Karate. Not every Kyokushin Dogo did this.
A few years ago I told Shihan Richard Wolicki that as a both a Military and Civil Police Officer I used more the Taijutsu techniques you taught me much more then the standard Kyokushinkai karate striking techniques.
I further elaborated that " We do not want to be involved in a "Rockem Sockem Robot Prolonged Situation".
Rather you want to quickly redirect and immobilize neutralize your oponent.
Taijutsu/ Jujutsu/Aikido techniques are much more effective efficient in real world situations then the use of mere Karate Strikes alone. Rather a combination of both is required to be effective and survive.
Shihan Richard Wolicki agreed with what I had to say. I went further saying I wish Mas Oyama had fully Incorporated Taijutsu and Aikido techniques into Kyokushinkai Karate.
Such Taijutsu/ Aikido techniques was taught to more senior students selectively and should have been taught across the board to both low and high ranking students in all Dojos.
You are 100% historically correct that Karate was "Tailored" by the Japanese to be an alternative to Western Boxing where Karate dropped the Taijutsu/ Aikido Redirecting techniques.
The " Tailoring", eliminating of Effective Redirecting Taijutsu/ Aikido techniques was a Big Mistake of Japanese Karate and many people have unfortunately paid for such mistakes.
what other types of full contact karate is there other than kyokushin?
This explained so much! Thanks!!! ❤
I've always wondered, why there where so much difference between, what old school masters could do in old old karate movies and the weird competition style i saw on sport channels
This is very helpful! Thank you for sharing this information!
Guys you have to remember that karate isn’t all about the attack and hurting your opponent
It’s also about discipline, technique and beauty
It’s not about how much you know it’s about how you know it and put it to use if the moves don’t work then your doing it wrong
At least that’s what my Shotokan club teaches me
that's great boxing is my hobbie and i fully respect karate but in boxing we learn knock the opponent out cold and don't focus on how you look focus on defending yourself against the person harming you in real life or your opponent in sparring or a boxing match
I take a traditional karate class. Now at 45 years of age I totally feel like a kid. As a kid, I love the katas and the exercise. As an adult I see my instructor teaching self defense and forms as the first part of many complex applications. He also teaches jujitsu and arnes. Most of the students are young kids and a large groups of older teenagers. I am like the only adult but because of that he shows me different things, like the different levels of applications for even the basic of moves, blocks, strikes and counters. A basic block or counter can become a take down and transition into a pressure point finishing move or submission. If you've even seen these different levels of applications, its truly amazing and you can see how karate if VERY AFFECTIVE
Same as you. I am in a traditional goju-ryu school, our sensei teaches us kata, we work bunkai a lot, and regularly our sensei tells us "now, if you are in a street fight right now then... " and shows us another application of the movements...
Very nice video as always! Congratulations!
thanks a lot for your efforts Mr Jesse important information about the the karate tree
Been wondering this FOR YEARS ever since my coach had me drop Karate for Boxing and Lethwei. Both are styles I've come to freaking love but still
Nice! Ultimately, it's not WHAT you do but HOW you do it... Keep training hard and hope to see you back in Karate one day maybe! :-)
same here.... i studied wado ryu for 8 years and when i got into a street fight it was pretty useless... switched to boxing after many years.... got into a rooad rage situation... guy threatening my wife... took him out with a very simple slip one two combo... by the way, i have lived in japan for 25 years and studied wado here.
Very enlightening, thanks Jesse! I'm a taekwondo student, and I can see similar aspects there. Some TKD training is more for mind/body/spirit, and some TKD, like sparring, is more for combat training and competition. They're both great, and either is not necessarily for everyone.
Thankyou for another interesting video jesse!
Your AWESOME!!! Much gratefullness for your channel and honorable knowledge. Thank you sir
Great explanation, people often forget the history of self defence. I was once attacked by two men and was able to defend myself with footwork and distance behind a constant maeken zuki
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Thank you for this explanation and especially the message at the end. To me it was mindblowing, when my Sensei told me this for the first time, because I started Karate to do a sport, but then learned that it is so much more!
Plen122, really? It’s no longer in existence, I thought, only its descendant disciplines of Wado-ryu, Motobu-ryū, Matsubayashi-ryu and Shōrinji-ryū
I really liked your video! Very informative & amazing 👍🏼
Excellent video! I will be spreading this to people I know. Thanks..
Karate works when not confined to the rules of the ring and if taught that way.
Machida, Thompson, GSP and others have shown Karate works just fine with rules.
Alright. I've seen so many people stressing on the fact that MMA rules all! I'm just gonna shed a little light on those people!
I am a former MMA practicioner. I took it for quite a while and enjoyed learning the self defense techniques it offers! However, there is a big problem with many MMA fighters thinking they're perfect.
My teacher had many black belts in different martial arts and was also amazing at applying them and their teachings into MMA. He taught me that all MMA fighters should learn to never start a fight or think they are able to win every fight they have. He said that we should only ever end a fight without dealing too much damage to the opponent.
We were taught many harmful attacks but instructed to never use them on anybody unless it is for show and you're not actually harming them.
The techniques weren't that powerful compared to some I've seen in other martial arts I've taken. I've taken Vovenam which is made for killing, Taekwondo and Judo. I am honestly telling you that if any of those MMA fighters I was with went up against a talented Vovenam fighter, they'd die. Simple as. Even if it was just a student, they would have a small chance of winning.
If a Taekwondo student went up against an MMA student, they might lose but they'd go out with a bang. The same with judo.
However, if they're up against a complete master at one of these marital arts (the non-sport type) in a street fight, they would find it very difficult to win. I have seen what some of these guys can do, it's scary.
To add to this though, MMA is still very efficient if used for self defense in a normal situation as it isn't common for a high belt martial artist to get into a fight.
So, long story short, all martial arts are effective but it depends on the level of mastery and whether they put their full effort into it.
@Recondo What looks like show? One of the marital arts I've mentioned? Or martial arts in general?
Great! I totally agree with you and this analysis can apply to all martial arts. Actually, the problem is the great confusion that afflicts students and instructors of martial arts.
Great and simple clarification. Information I wish had been available to me as a practitioner.
This is a great video, I just started in Okinawan karate and I am glad I made the choice that I did - although I used to take Shotokan when I was younger as well, so learning to go from a slightly more flashy style to something more self defense based has been a bit of an adjustment for my muscle memory ha. Informative video, also I liked the graphics on this one, they look great!
All the best, thanks Sensei!
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I love you man.... Ur so humble and dedicated in preaching & spreading KARATE around the world.... Im from Shillong India(stephen Leong my Late Sensei.) ossssssssss..senseini re... Osss. 🥋
Jesse you are a great man!
I've spent years practicing karate and talking about it but often people has so much confusion about reality and myth.
Your study attitude and your achieved knowledge about karate, till its techniques to its historical base and evolutions are very inspiring and I think that what you say in your videos should be said in every dojo in the world.
Well certain aspects of karate work and very well may I add!!! After getting my first degree and joining mma to expand my knowledge my karate background is what sets me apart and makes me a better fighter. I owe it all to karate no matter what I am learning I always implement my karate in some shape or form
Perfect speech. But i add one more information: Kata and Kumite complete themselves, the secret to have a eficient karate is find the bridge between Kata and Kumite and pratice both till the exhaustion. My Sensei says that Kata is to sharp the sword and kumite is to use the sword, that means that in Kata you train the form, balance, breathing, focus, power and technique, and in Kumite you train timing, distance, movement, accuracy, sense of reaction and fight spirit. In high level you learn how to apply Kata movements in kumite and that is what Karate is about.
This!👏👏👏
@@M_JackOfAllTrades This... Is such a romantic view of the whole like no other. I know people who say the same and I get the pleasure of training with such people. The truth is that they want to believe karate as practiced in sports works everywhere, which is a sweet lie we tell ourselves, either to elevate karate as a true martial art or that we've practiced so much that our black belts make us a good fighter regardless of the situation. This couldn't be further from the truth. Sports karate works against sport karate. The same wouldn't work if a boxer came raging onto you ready to deliver a several pounds punch to your face. What are you going to do? Stop the punch with Age Uke and counter with Gyaku Zuki? If that thought ever came into a person facing someone who wanted to truly harm them, I'm pretty sure the second thought they had was if he was being lied to his whole life. Self defense is self defense. Sports are sports. There's a HUGE gap between these. And just so I don't deny everything, I agree that kata practice enhances our way of moving ourselves, positioning and making sure we know the intent of the technics, but the way we achieve that is not through blind repetition of the forms as we do when preparing for a competition. All the best to you.
Good video as always Jesse. I always find something to get from your videos.
Excellent explanation, thanks!
I feel like any martial arts has it's pros and cons. It's based on the practitioner. I don't like to knock certain martial arts styles because ultimately you are becoming a better person. Keep in mind even the great Bruce Lee carried a gun with him when travelling.
Gun vs hand...who will win?
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That's why I love the history of Sosai Oyama and the journey to bring Kuyokshin into almost the way we know it today. But I have trained Shotokan, Judo, Aikido etc on my journey to hopefully become a better and more open-minded and learning person. The day I stop learning, then Karate and especially in my case, Kuyokshin, has lost its purpose. If Karate works or not, will always be up for debate, but for me personally, that's not a decisive factor, the most important things are to stay fit, mentally and physically, learn from others and other styles, self discipline, philosophy, and it has become a lifestyle. Over the 40 years I have been in the sport, I have luckily never had to put it to the test on the street, only in Kumite, and I hope I will never end up in a situation where I will have to find out if it really works or not, as that is not the reason why I practice and love Karate. It is my lifestyle.
@Siddhartha RC It works just like Karate, but I have been training different martial arts to bring what I find useful into my own Karate and I discard what I don't find useful. So I do continue training with different styles of Karate and other Martial arts, it keeps me learning and developing.
@@dannycalugar Aikido works or aikijutsu works. If You are to oppose an armored guy with the sword with bare hands. Punching him will not help.
@@dannycalugar JUDO does work against boxers....
Just watch Gene lebell Vs boxer
Or even Lennox Lewis Vs a judoka on a sparring.
Judoka just needs to resist some punches and clinch.
Its a good thing that you never had to put your martial arts experiance to the test but never the less thats wonderful that you actually have experiance in Shotokan karate Aikido and Judo.
So Jesse can beat a Kyokushin karateka in a street fight? B.S. Ossu.
Great work and thank you Jessie. I have travels through the karate phases myself from being a young Marine and training for a fight for life to training for self improvement like you said and the truth you states that one is not better than another they are just different. Thank Jassie.
Love your content, amazing. Promoting good martial arts. Good mindset 👌🏻
I believe the most successful karate master is the one that goes through life and never has a fight.
Yeah but sometimes you cannot avoid a street fight, so you have to defend yourself and end the fight as fast as possible.
@@kbanghart Exactly, only use karate to defend yourself
Jesse i am a black belt karateka but i left due to school reasons. Now i can start doing something again but i started kickboxing for experience and learning something different. What i noticed is maybe karate is missing in self defense because of shotokans (i did shotokan) lack of contact and limit of moves that we can do but, it somehow works so great when mixed whit a more aggressive combat sport. I find ease in mixing those 2 styles. And having a karate base makes me so agile, fast and mobile in kickboxing matches especially when compared to general kickboxers (they generally tend to stand still) and i beat pretty much everyone lol. *MIX KARATE WITH SOMETHING. DON'T JUST STAND THERE AND DO KATAS IF YOU WANNA FIGHT.*
(I also do katas but for improving my general body coordination and because i love it for some reason (?) )
Good explanation.
Liked your assertive tone in this one. Looks like someone who is tired of explaining this subject and want to get it all cleared.
Great video! Well done.
From what I see the moves are good for perfecting form but you need to learn to use it in a meaningful way.
Brill description
Am I right in thinking, the early days of traditional Karate had some ground techniques which have sadly been lost through the evolution?
This came back around on my timeline and might have been one of if not the first videos of yours that I watched. Great stuff Jesse!
Thank you!
I think you're absolutely right. That was a superb History Lesson and very thorough explanation. Great video.
Jesse's the man. What a personality. Thanks for the memories Jesse.🥋🕶️🍕🍨
Good Analogy! I was trained in both the disciplines of Kyokushinkai and Filipino Sikaran Karate - this self-defense system and exercise is what saved me from overcoming my life-threatening asthma and formerly weak and frail body - now I've developed strength with deadly solid hands, arms. feet/soles and shins from tameshiwari conditioning from several Makiwara pads and full contact sparring (esp., from the Kyokushinkai System) . Coz of this, I've had several experiences wherein I unintentionally made my would be attackers /thugs end up in the hospital but then I always protested self-defense when questioned in my local police station... That was several years back, but now I don't hit the Makiwara pad more than a thousand times per week anymore, but I do get occasional wrist, shin and hand pains from my body which was the effect and trauma from hand conditioning - that happens to be the drawback from traditional tameshiwari training... Though dangerous it may be when applied to thugs - it will give you a lifetime of occasional pain in your hands which you have to live with for life... But nonetheless, I am proud to be given this opportunity of being a karateka in my typically dangerous 3rd-world rough and tumble street environment... Oss...
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Wonderful and so correct thank you for this video
It's not the cup, but the tea within it that quenches thirst.
I will leave it here. Great and insightful video, brother. Cheers!
Extremely well said!! I gree 100% and also would say the same as Taekwondo...So sad how sport ruins martial arts 🙈
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I love combine modern, martial and traditional style. It s really complete and safe.
One of the most important information I have heard today . Thank you KN 😊
Hey Jesse, thanks for the enlightening video. I used to take up karate. Now I am a muay Thai practitioner, and Fma as well. I believe all martial arts are useful and effective. In terms of overall physical well-being, the deeper, underlying teachings they impart, and how we can apply them. Most martial arts came from lethal combat art forms, and now, it became staple in some gyms. It evolved, in a sense, to fit our non-combative lifestyle.
I'm glad you've pointed out the differences. For many years, so few people actually understand what Karate is. I was deceived when I started back in the late '70s. They said what I was learning was self-defence. Well it wasn't. It was a combination of basic technique, sparring learning kata performance and nothing else. It took me a long time to realise just what it REALLY means to learn self-defence. So for many years, I studied and researched Karate to discover the only truly useful aspect of this fighting system (my opinion) which is that it is much more than just self-defence. It is a total fighting system designed to combat civilians, samurai AND soldiers with rifles. It is not really self defence, but rather it's a fully fledged combat system. Or at least it was once! But then, we must think about how karate was developed in 3 specific locations on Okinawa. Naha, Shuri and Tomari, for differing reasons. But that's another story! And lastly, don't forget that the ORIGINAL Okinawan fighting art ("Te") existed long before karate was even thought of!
So much to learn, so little time... it truly is a lifetime study, isn’t it? Thanks for chiming in! 😄👍
In a way it's different but also can all come together. There are aspects of sport Karate now that can be used with self-defense karate to have the perfect kind of distance yet fast and powerful strikes and kicks, as well as the hard conditioning plus awareness of your surroundings. The mindsets and values of modern karate help us to ground ourselves and avoid unnecessary fights whatsoever, it teaches us the why of learning karate. Achieving balance between the three is what I think is key!
I was a U.S Marine in Okinawa. I've always wondered if Karate was a useful fighting style. Thank you for this video.
Jesse... I'm new to your channel and I would like to say thank you for all your videos...they are really amazing and informative!! Props!!🤛
I’ve always said that it’s not the style that matters. The style is a personal choice to what suits the individual. You get out of the martial arts to what you put in. With any style you have to look deeper and study not just the moves shown but the hows and whys plus what your own personal limits are. I do feel that my club has gone too far down the competition root which I don’t like. Although I’ve competed, I’m just too aggressive and want to get the job done rather score points. I love kata/form but even that has been changed more for appearance rather than spirited application.
Nice video Jesse san. Sports Karate have never been attractive to me. I started in the "Do" side of the Karate from the modern japanese approach and ive been doing the "Traditional okinawan" way this past years but keeping the "Do" principles which i feel are very good for modern martial arts practitioners. So i guess theres a 4th type of karate.. your personal one :)
Excelent explanation. Best regards
Sensei this is one of your best vídeos
It helps when u realize that u evolved and your training should be in this New point.
This vídeo made me realize that .
So Grateful for the knowledge shared !
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Great trainings and have Fun!