Jirard The Completionist Situation is Out of Control & Terrible...
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- Опубликовано: 15 ноя 2024
- The situation with Jirard The Completionist is out of control with many unanswered questions, lies and problems. Other Nintendo RUclipsrs have started to get roped into this and I felt the need to speak up on the matter in a dedicated video.
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Humility and accountability would have saved this man's career and legacy. I believe that if he had just been brutally honest, and then just showed how he planned to donate and possibly make up for it, people would forgive this. The tone of the response video from Jirad destroyed any sympathy people had for him.
It didn't help that he used "I'm sorry *you felt* misled" which most people rightfully interpreted as shifting blame onto the viewer and not owning up for being the one to mislead people
@@delusion5867That's what his lawyers told him to say. It just reeks of guilt whether or not he is actually guilty of anything.
@@delusion5867 yeah. The lawyer speak here probably fucked his future, even if it may have protected him legally.
When in the history of the world has apologizing ever made things better in a situation like this?
@@kingstarscream3807 Jirard clearly felt he was trapped in a corner in that call. Admitting fault was *probably* his best option but we'll never know.
It really sucks whenever your favorite Ytber did horrible things and not willing to admit fault, what's worse is many other ybters are blindly defending Jirard , i get it they gotta support their friend but defending Jirard isn't it.
Horrible.. it could be. Let's wait for more info to say that.
Lazy and not good at all. But if there proof which seems like there could be that he was spending the money... yeah that's horrible
On the bright side ill have much more freetime since im unsubbing from anyone that supports jirard. Its gonna be nice having all that extra freetime
@@28colecj How much longer we need to wait? It's been a month already.
Karl and Muda provided all information, showed receipts, while Jirard was like "I'm sorry I was caught", provided no receipts and called stupid everyone why doubt him.
@@greggski37109 more years should be enough time.
Stating that you 'work with charities' and not working with those charities and collecting on the statements is fraud. There isn't much to wait for anymore other than an audit.@@28colecj
The biggest fallout from this is the damage it does to any RUclipsr running a charity. We have only begun to see the side effects of his deception.
Yeah, I'm a bit worried about that for sure.
I see this as a positive, it means that people in future making charity need to be more transparent and people will put them under more scrutiny, I think people were completely lenient never checking were the money the donated has gone, now a lot people are aware that charities could actually be scams so they will ask for receipts and proofs. And that for me is a positive and charities will be more careful since they don't want to be accused of pulling a "Jirard" situation.
You should NEVER donate to any middle man running a charity; it is just stupid. You can donate directly, you know
@@Playeressence Influencers that 'run' charities are just middle men, which is stupid; donating directly is always better, and this is a good thing in that it hopefully makes it so people don't donate to these third party middle men with no accountability.
@@pyropulseIXXI Why is it stupid, when people might not even know about a charity? If a streamer helps people to learn about something, like a very rare illness, then that's a good thing.
Aw Etika. I'm glad people still remember him. He was a great person, and Im happy that I still have his merch.
Joyconboyz 4 life
Wish he could have experienced Xenoblade 3...
It sucks that the people who work for Jirard will probably end up having to find other work. That said, it is disgusting that he tried to hide behind them. He obviously does not value their wellbeing enough or else he never would have jeopardized it to begin with.
They never asked questions. They just blindly trust the scammer.
@Raul_27 yeah why would they ever ask questions about it? Some dude that just edits video for him isn't doing a deep financial audit on his charity...
@@Raul_27 This whole thing sucks, but unless it can be proven they knew all along, no, they trusted their friend. As far as we know, as far as any of his friends knew, their friend and generally widely regarded nice guy Jirard Khalil was running a charity drive. Why wouldn't they help with that? It's not their fault he used his reputation to, at best, solicit donations to a mismanaged charity or, at worst, actively scam people.
Pretty sure the majority of his "employees" are family members.
He’s clearly a selfish manipulative narcissist. I’d be surprised if most aren’t already looking elsewhere
There's nothing weird about his change in tone - He's fishing for sympathy and playing the victim card in that voice call.
Or maybe hes upset that his reputation, his youtube career and everything that he has worked on for a long time and his entire life is being ruined.
You would probably sound and act the same if this kind of stuff happened to you and many people would probably even start crying.
I dont know if he did this stuff on purpose or if he made mistakes or not but i dont like how people makes it sound like people that get into these kind of situations are just pretending to be sad about what happened.
Its not only him usually when somebody gets into big trouble over something and he acts upset about it people say that hes only faking it to get sympathy.
@@CyberLance26”we are one of the biggest funding sources for San Francisco hospital” when you know your charity has donated $0 is quite the accident. Legal/illegal is one question but morally… the completionist doesnt have a leg to stand on. He should have stopped fund raising immediately.
Karl and Muta asked the most important question during that call. "When did you learn about it?" Jirard was not prepared. He paused but knew he had to answer. 2021 seemed safe. He changed his mind and made it 2022. Imagine if that question hadn't been asked. Jirard would be able to claim he learned about it basically at the same moment Karl did, and probably have enough plausible deniability to satisfy a _lot_ of people. That was by far his biggest screwup since this scam was uncovered.
completely unrelated but it's good to see a ff14 profile pic
100%
Wow this is genuinely terrible, the fact that he puffs off his chest after “stealing” and not accounting all the money that he did not donate still, how will he be able to come back
Oh, I misread. So he donated some of it, but not all. Could it be the amount he spent on himself? If so, just pay out of your own pocket.
He wont, its over for jirard
he donated it after being called out and exposed, and only that, imagine theyd wait till everyone forgot and then boom instant mill@@NuiYabuko
As someone who lost their Mom it's really disgusting how he used the memory of his mother to defraud people and as a shield to defend his actions.
I agree. I also lost my Mom and it has a very sour taste whenever he seems to use his deceased Mom as a "Moral Shield". I totally agree with you and sorry to hear for your loss!
@vidra1177 thank you and I'm also sorry for your loss and I hope all is well.
If lost your mother to some illness and you thought you had the ability to “find the cure” would you not hold the money till you knew it wouldn’t be wasted even if you could never determine it and this held it indefinitely
@@lennaylennay2 No. Absolutely not.
@lennaylennay2 if anything what he did hurt people who could have used that money over the last 9 years and devalued the money having it sit in a tax exempt account that received no interest and got it's value eaten away by inflation
Not a big fan of the Completionist, but I enjoyed his work. It was really fascinating seeing the lengths one needs to go through to 100% different games. I was also into Super Beard Bros.
This whole thing could have gone by much smoother if he just took the L and committed to fixing everything. It really hurts a ton of online charities. Now they'll all be under higher scrutiny.
Each and every charity should be under heavy scrutiny, online or not, otherwise this is what happens
@@BRDarkSniper I agree. If you're going to ask for tax exempt money, then you'd better be able to prove that it's going to the cause you state it is. Taking money from well meaning people who work hard for a living and never appropriating it to charity is extremely low.
@@BRDarkSniper agreed, what I meant to say was there's going to be more hesitation from donors. Those who are giving their money shouldn't have to be suspicious of the place where they're donating to.
I was there for Super Beard Bros too. I was there for Greg. IMO he’s one of the reasons Jirard grew a following. Then Jirard seemingly screwed him over. I remember after Greg left I felt Beard Bros didn’t feel the same even though Jirard was the mastermind/leader/creator/person in charge, and supposedly so did a lot of people as the views dipped.
So to see Jirard straight up use manipulation tactics in his response video, makes me wonder if he manipulated the Greg situation too. They were best buds.
Serves Greg right for fuckong over Colin@@jenniferhamels1176
What's crazy to me is that Muta and Karl refrained from sharing that audio where it seems Jirard was trying to bribe and guilt them and then he turned around and had the audacity to basically say "My tactics didn't work and they exposed me, so NOW I'm gonna sue them"
I think Muta and Karls first priority was always to right the wrong of the money sitting there undonated. I believe there intentions was not about ruining the guys career/company, as much as it was to correct that wrong and let people be aware of it. Once Jirard threatened legal action and "hit back" at them two, then that made it personal.
@PatrickWilliams-ts4le But thats precisely my point. Those two gave him a chance to make this right. And Jirard tried to weaponize it against them. It's sickening.
@@rpproductions6241 Stupid people do stupid things. If he was smart, he would have kept his mouth shut to them and have donated all the money after the call. Made a video apologizing(for real) that day before Muta and Karl could drop vids. And hope he could go the "I didn't know, but that isn't an excuse for this massive mess up. I will no longer do charity events as I obviously cant oversee one with my very hectic life/business". And hope it all blows over.
@PatrickWilliams-ts4le Yeah the problem is Jirard (and I know his family are a part of it all too of course) doesn't want to be seen as the wrongdoer. He wants to be the well meaning but ignorant boy struggling through life that's been wronged.
lol its probably an advice from his lawyer who wanted to make a quick buck out of the situation.
"I'm not trying to get any sympathy."
Said the man who brought up the fact that he has 20 employees that he's responsible for.
and the man who uploaded his mothers autopsy report to weaponize his grief to deflect from his wrongdoing.
and the guy that constantly brings up his mother's death for 10 years
I'm disappointed with Jirard, but I'm more disappointed how so many people who I watched just showed up and made stupid statements supporting him, seemingly forgetting that it took him 10 years and an expose to donate.
could you name some youtubers who defended the completionist.
@@ov3rkillbeatemups was one of them
@@ShadowMonkey69that guy is just a sea lion. He's spamming that in comments hoping people are too lazy or too uniformed to answer the full list. He's trying to make it look like no one is defending Jirard, even though it's well established a lot of people he's worked with have. "You can't name them? I guess they must not exist." You don't need to list them all because it's public knowledge. Only people who don't know this have their heads in the sand.
@@ShadowMonkey69did he made a video, because i cant find it. If it was on twitter, i dont have it
@ov3rkill from what I saw it was projared and beatemups.
Projared took down the tweet where he told people not to jump to conclusions.
Although, I'm sure projared won't defend him now after the audio leak. The completionist kinda threw him under the bus.
I honestly think beatemups has some dirt hidden. The guy plays the wholesome card too much and this situation kinda shows that he either did no research or doesn't care
Legally, Jirard's response makes sense. It's a possible career ending move, but I am willing to bet his lawyers are more concerned about him getting sued or audited than his career ending. If he admits he messed up, that opens him up to investigation and lawsuits that he'll have a very hard time defending (even though he'll probably have a hard time regardless).
I'm disappointed, sure, but I understand why, from a legal perspective, his response was the way it was. Although it might have been better to not say anything at all at this point.
Yea the response video shouldn’t have been made. It did more harm than good.
Precisely, I think most people miss this. He can't affirmatively confirm he was dishonest because that is charity fraud and admitting that will kill him in court.
Him taking the call from Muta and Karl fucked himself.
His lawyers can’t save Jirard from his own words.
Right, Jirard's responses were for legal defense. I feel like he's been exposed to public opinion, will get obvious career damage, and that's about it.
Sued? Jail. He's committed felonies here, and yes he'd serve himself better to not say anything at this point.
You either die a hero,
Or live long enough to watch your money depreciate in value
Fear often turns into anger and resentment. I think that's why there's a huge tonal shift between the call and the public statement. He's scared about himself and it's turned him hostile.
Wow. Even PlayerEssence is covering this story now. This is BIG!
He must have thought (or been advised) that coming across angry and playing the victim would be a better PR strategy than acting remorseful. I seriously doubt that works out for him.
Let this be a lesson learned - Don't donate to charities, donate directly to the source of the research itself.
He made an in-between to get donations. Whether open hand started out with good intentions is unknown. The point is, it eventually turned into a second bank account and held money. More than likely jirard slowly told himself that he was justified holding and skimming small portions of money from these charities. Whether for the costs he listed or anything else. This situation feels mostly like incompetence. Yet jirards reactions come off as him trying to downplay the severity of his situation.
@@redshepherd32 My point is when it comes to donations, why even have a middleman in the first place? All having charities like the Open Hand Foundation around does for us is open up the possibility of charity fraud. There's no actual benefit to the middleman that I can think of, and researching for an answer on the internet yielded no sufficient justification either.
@@drakath5727 agreed
Haha no. The researchers are the biggest scammers of all.😊
Or volunteer
As someone who worked at an NGO, it's shocking to me that over the years there was no video or stuff done to show like a PR event where a huge check is given at any of these charities to SHOW what was being done. Now I'm from Jamaica, so I don't know how the US does things. But we don't just have to show receipts but have to do PR stuff like that to put on our reports or else we won't get sponsorships, grants, or tranches (if you don't know what that is then do some research...). The point is, that what he's been described Jirad has done is potentially fraudulent and can by definition be considered a scam. But oddly enough it was going for so long without any questions? Not by investors, contributors, or the very persons mentioned by him? Something else is missing...
I was talking to someone about this. She's from Canada and organized a lot of charity events in years gone by and she said they ALWAYS at a minimum got an official picture of them handing the check over to the organization.
Damn, he really tried to offer them hush money with that, "I'm not trying to be, 'do you guys want money to help me hide this?'" Guy was, clearly, testing the waters to see if they'd take it.
I thought the same thing.
Why can’t people just own up and take responsibility? Dude could’ve made a 1-minute long video and could’ve shielded SOME of the grief. The apology video was an absolute joke and grift.
Just apologize, thank Karl and Muta.
Donate a bit more personally from your own account.
Done.
The situation is crazy. It keeps getting worse and worse as more things get dug up. The response video was very bad to threaten legal action and unleash everything being held back.
Are you female? I love the Miku icon. So cute ^.^
@@JackieFuckingChan Are you female? It's called woman, jeez.
Also, why do you care?
Just wait for the audit. If OHF disappears, you'll know why.
@@JackieFuckingChan No. I'm male. I just like Miku.
Huh. RUclips says that there’s 4 replies to this comment, yet the only one actually there is the one asking about OP’s Miku icon…
It's a terrible situation and if Jirard had been honest as soon as he allegedly found out, told everyone so that the people who donated knew what was happening with their money, and then donated immediately he would have been fine. He would have done the right thing.
But he lied for two years about charity, making us think he was this charitable person, when he wasn't. That's on the same level as stealing valor. There's no defense for that.
Ya he's been lying for more than 2 years there mate. The very fact the golf thing goes back years before he ever the completionist, and his family was allegedly stealing there, there is good reason to believe there is premeditation here.
@TheJadeFist true, true. His friends have got to rethink what they're doing because he isn't trustworthy. He should have to earn that trust back but people just want to pretend nothing bad happened.
He cant get away with this. Thank you for making this. People HAVE to keep talking about this or hell keep hiding
Hope this dude never get in tought with Nintendo ever again.
There were very easy fixes to these problems if there was nothing bad going on. I think we're still just seeing the tip of the iceberg and there's going to be a lot more to come of all this in the coming weeks and months.
Yes. People need to keep digging.
Good, level-headed look at the events surrounding this. Thanks for the honesty and coming down on the right side of this. Mad Respect.
*And people wonder why Nintendo is hesitant to work with certain folk.*
I think one of the saddest parts about this fiasco is that it will make people even more skeptical towards donating to charities. There are plenty of good, hardworking charities that do use the donated money to help others when they need it. So when you have RUclipsrs and Influencers scamming people using their name, it does so much harm and it's sad that Jirard can't comprehend that he is doing a lot more harm to the charities with his actions, and rather than make amends so that people can feel comfortable knowing that they can donate safely, he doubles down on his actions. Again, the real victims would be honest, genuine charities that will be affected because people have been burned by would be "generous" influencers that later were found out to be scammers trying to paint a great image of themselves.
a good rule of thumb is offering the link to respected charities directly. Rather than a Middleman (open hand foundation in this case), It saves everybody the grief.
Crazy
Imagine have a charity run by OWN family that's in memory of your LATE MOM
And host "charity streams" every year but not check on it once for almost a decade. BRUH
Because it was all about him and building up his channel.
he got caught and all his response is "im the victim , im being targeted" 🤮
This whole situation just breaks my heart. I love Jirard and am still shocked. When Sea of Stars is now removing his NPC, this made me sad. I understand the reasons that they had to do this. It's just sad. Thank you for addressing this situation.
On Top of changing his story and the missing golf tournament cash it goes deeper with is cope. How can he compare Jon Tron's clip, pro Jared's open marriage thing, and G4 failing as equal to mismanaging 600k in charity funds? 1 of those 4 are not like the other and the charity is way worse.
come on, there is no logical for having not donated the money in ten years, other than to enrich himself and his family somehow. You don't just "forget" donating 600k Dollars.
Given how the money was never donated, and basically only ever used to fund the overhead costs for his various public events and whatnot... that's what I suspect the account was for, basically. To fund all his various events. Which, when you subtract the fraudulent charity component, was all basically free self-promotion. Not a good look.
I honestly don’t understand how it can be so difficult for some people to understand that they and they alone are responsible for their actions. Jirard’s video was completely indefensible. The dudes who dug up the evidence of the money not being donated aren’t the ones to blame, Jirard is. But he spent so much time in his response video trying to deflect and pass the blame to everyone else. When he is talking to them and he’s whining that this is basically going to end his career and all of that… yeah dude. That’s YOUR fault.
My take on this is that there is no logical explanation for why he did this other than fraudulent. Even if someone gave him the complete benefit of the doubt, he hasn’t given a non fraudulent reason. It’s disappointing at best and criminal at worst.
Exactly. If he really cared as much about his mother as he claims, and the charity involved, as soon as he heard that money wasn't moving he should've been on the ball doing everything he could to get that money donated that day or the next. Then owned up to it. There is no excuse for "Yeah I heard about that a couple years ago" and then nothing happening until you called out on it.
He honestly sounds like someone who just lost his nest egg and then is blaming everyone else for defaming him.
I just started watching some of his videos a few months ago and quite liked his content, but after this... regardless of what the actual "Truth" is, I don't care, I just wish I never watched his stuff.
Even after the 600k was donated, that's still missing upwards of 100k. Fraud was and still is definitely the plan.
The second he got called out he donated the money, see how easy it was? No sympathy for Jirard.
I think the only way Jirard can come back from this in terms of public perception is if he says "I was legally advised to make the previous response - but I felt it was wrong" etc.
Would you believe this though? Seeing how he switches tone so fast everytime he thinks another strategy would work better and givin he's been lying so much?
@@headjump803 i would atleast take a wait and see how he responds and act from then on for a while.
BRO just ripped off George Costanza's "Human Fund" from Seinfeld, IRL 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
The tone shift in his respons isnt weird. First he was caught off gaurd, and was worried. Then he simmered with hs lawyers and hindesight for a month. Amd decided to fight back. Yhough he probably shouldnt have
Especially after all he said on that call with Muta and Karl. I seems like he forgot about that call, and/or forgot to tell his lawyers. That call really was his biggest mistake.
@@cyberalpha6269I agree. Every time more of that call is released it just gets worse and worse for Jirard
The way he deflectes thing with his mothers death is sickening to me ngl...
What makes it worse, prior to all this someone commented about him paying ALL that money to get almost every single game on Wii U & 3ds before the Eshop stores closed down, the comment was talking about how he could’ve used that money in buying the games for a cause, & he responded by essentially saying: “I DONATED $600,000 to a variety of charities” which wasn’t the case at all, he still had the money sitting there not being donated.
OJ addressed this tastefully.
The overly nice guys are the main ppl you have to look out for.
You're not helping.
@@NuiYabuko That's the entire point.
@@NuiYabuko Jirard is a fake nice guy. He’s known to be a manipulative person. His response video was full on manipulation and a bunch of people fell for it.
He apologized for potentially saying misleading statements. That makes zero sense when it is clear as day he said misleading statements. Adding in “potential” is to manipulate you into thinking he’s making an actual apology when he’s actually apologizing for nothing.
Women understand this. Maybe people on the internet will finally start wising up.
@@jenniferhamels1176 He's not admitting fault because he's at risk of being charged with a felony. He's obviously hoping the discord call isn't admissible as evidence. It's shameless.
People loved the completionist, and he blew it. All for what? A piece of green paper.
Money is the root of all evil (when you let it control your actions/life decisions)
@@hardkore360 So true.
Oh my God, OJ, someone finally said it. Amen. He should have manned up and owned his “L” for his actions. People would view him differently. He’s so stuck on himself and how he appears to people. He’s worried about the wrong things. His middle name is now “Hubris.” He’s full of it.
I think this is full panic and we're seeing the stages of grief dealing with the tidal wave coming. Behind the camera I'd bet he's all over the shop too.
5:00 not to mention 600k isn't even the full amount.
Okay, this NEW leaked audio 8:14 is like INSANE levels of manipulation! WTF. I'm not a psychologist or whatever, but he goes through like 10 forms of begging and manipulation within like 30 seconds
8:30 I'm not going to try to manipulate you monetarily, i'm going to work through EMOTION ~
"If you go through with this, i'm going to have to emotionally abuse 25 people" . like he just entirely placed it on them . "I'm going to HAVE to do this"
I never followed him but he is right about one thing that's pretty much killed his career that leaked audio with pretty damning but he also shot himself in the foot when he threatened legal action which is dumb because there's no way he can sue because some of that information like those charity tax write-offs are public.
Man, while almost every thing about this is really sad, Jirard throwing ProJared under the bus while ProJared has been simping for him on twitter is hilarious.
i could only imagine the doom and gloom dudes feeling, like you said you could hear in his voice him breaking in real time. clear he’s panicking in that leaked audio.
I didn’t watch any content creators on RUclips until late 2022 and it was only a few that did specifically Switch eShop deals and 2 very small Switch let’s play game channels. I actually didn’t watch any talk/discussion streams until spring 2023 when TOTK came out and I lurked this channel. Although I’ve had some discussions of what I think and feel going below the surface of this situation in your discord chat, I won’t repeat it here. Warning: very long.
That being said, I never watched The Completionist, and didn’t even know about his channel since YT never showed me his channels even though I love indie games and mostly play indies. But being that I’m a completionist, as a personal thing, I assumed he liked to be thorough. When I saw Mutahar’s videos break the news (because YT does show me his content), I thought it was just another YTber doing dumb things and screwing up their careers which actually sounds pretty normal. I laughed at the contradiction of his name vs actions. How the hell are you going call yourself “The Completionist” and NOT actually complete the one task you keep publicly barking on and on about it being an “important cause” and blah blah blah. I had no idea that Jirard was loved and respected in the gaming community and that sort of thing vetted a person not just in social circumstances but in careers that takes place in the public domain. But with all things public, anything that goes south has the effect of a nuclear explosion that reverberates and follows that public persona throughout the entirety of their career and will serve as a constant reminder. In early November, I already saw this situation had the trappings of a nuclear explosion ready to happen. It wasn’t a matter of “IF,” but of “WHEN.”
Being that I’m an outsider and still consider myself an outsider because I’m weary and suspicious of anything to do with “community,” I just shrugged it off as being whatever. But as more and more factual evidence unfold, I paid attention to the serious legal ramifications. I come from working in legal prosecution; particularly special fraud cases (like Ponzi schemes, real estate embezzlement, even large prostitution rings), and this situation has a lot of the general qualities of the fraud cases I’ve worked on and have seen them prosecuted with a guilty verdict in the court rooms. I don’t know any specifics of the case, so I can’t comment on the question of whether there will be criminal charges, but judging by what evidence Karl and Mutahar have shown, some of it can carryover from the civil side to criminal because some evidence appears to possess criminal elements. And depending on the severity of the fraudent nature of the case, multiple governmental agencies can take action and prosecute. Now, just because there’s some criminal elements to a case, it doesn’t mean it’ll become a criminal case. It depends on how badly those agencies want to go after you and how good they feel they can successful prosecute. The likelihood of it involving other persons besides Jirard- very very likely. This means the case would take quite some time to do deep dives in discovery phase. I would like to add, although I come from a prosecutorial background, this case can still be a class action lawsuit (civil) because it has affected many persons over the course of multiple years (10 years at this point). In short, even if Jirard is in trouble with the IRS, it doesn’t just stop there. It could expand to both civil and criminal wings of the law AT THE SAME TIME.
So yes, to say that Jirard is deathly afraid, that’s an understatement.
I was half expecting Jirard to offer Karl and Muta his mom's spinal cord.
Great, balanced take on the situation. One thing I feel like I missed or not clear to me, did Muta or Jobst ever take any of this to authorities like IRS, police, etc.? Or have they just published videos?
Why didn't he donate the money once he found out ? Simple, he knew all along and had no intention of donating it.
Good video dude, thourough but not overly complicated, depicts the situation well, and reflects your review, your earned a sub!
Still such a wild situation, I didn’t know about what happened until I tuned into your stream live a little while ago. Nice to see your opinion OJ.
In retrospect, Jirard comes off as a compulsive liar which is why so much of this stuff came apart like a house of cards. Like his repeatedly listing of all the organizations the Open Hand were consistenly big donors of and how the story he told to Mutahar and Jobst in the audio call completely 180'd in his response video.
As for the "why didn't he just take the L?" question, I think it really comes down to JIrard not wanting to take that hit to his business reputation. Unlike some of his contemporaries its pretty apparent that Jirard had bigger ambitions than just being a gaming youtuber. Indie land had him networking and rubbing elbows with various big indie developers. He was a big ambassador for Nintendo. So him getting outed for potentially committing charity fraud would potentially nuke all the business relationships he cultivated this past decade or so, far more severe than your typical "cancelling."
All of this to say, none of it is an excuse. And I think both he and his fanbase now trying to flip this as potentially screwing ove his employees is gross.
Wow this opened my eyes. I was only thinking that jirard wanted to do was to protect his "good person" persona.
There was no simply taking the L here dude. He's committed felonies, his only possible defense would be to try to blame his family members, and stick to the story of simply being the public face. In that case, there's other issues of inside the family but if the FEC or whomever is the right agencies to deal with this type of crime decides to press charges or do an audit, he's going to jail. Owning up to it, and taking the L, would be an admission of guilt, that could be used against him court. Of course he's also admitted to it without the owning up to it part, which makes him look 50 times more the scumbag, and then tried to deflect by defaming previous friend Jontron with the whole "but he's racist for saying non cucked things, and I'm a gooder person", and offering to bribe Jobst and Muta, then threatening to sue Jobst and Muta. A court is going to find it hard to be convinced he deserves any leniency. The worst part is, this is all been made highly public.
He's not only couldn't simply take the L, but me managed to make that a very big CAPITAL LETTER L. His attempts to mitigate damage, have painted him in the worse light possible.
7:37 reminds me of that South Park episode when Wendy had enough of Cartman and threatened him to beat him in front of everybody and he acts all cool but he tries to avoid the fight by any way he can to even sending his mom to her house 😂
That’s exactly why I give him my Deceptionist rating of “Fucked it!”
He lied deliberately & continually over a decade. Now he is desperately trying to make it go away. First with threats of legal action & now with self pity & emotional manipulation. Making out that this will ruin dozens of lives & implying that would be the fault of Muta & Karl. 🙄
What needs to happen here is a full audit to see if the money has been accruing interest and if it has, where has that money gone? I have a hard time believing several hundred thousand did not accrue any interest at all. Also a full breakdown of what was collected in terms of direct money, twitch donations, bits, subs, sponsorships, merch sales and other things needs to be made with accounting for what the expenses were and who was paid for what services delivered. Some expenses have to be expected when income includes item sales for charity, but only the real number will solve this regardless if exonerates or damns Jirard
Seeing him trying to look menacing after knowing he begged like a coward is extremly pathetic, he will beg again has soon more thing come out.
This may the most disappointed I've ever been in Ytuber I actually cared about. I didn't donate to his charity, but I have been a patreon supporter for him for several years now. While I haven't pulled that support yet, as I even now think this was, at least on his part, mostly gross negligence and not intentionally malicious, I'm probably still going to drop it. I don't necessarily think Karl and Muta went about this perfectly, but pretty much nothing about the way Jirard has handled this sat right with me.
10 years worth of donations just sitting there doing nothing. Those funds could've been used towards resources to help dementia patients if not towards research this whole time. It's unconscionable.
I’m a pretty forgiving person(maybe to a fault). If he would’ve just came out and said I messed up really bad and here’s what I’m gonna do to make it right I would’ve let it go. I just don’t like all the defiance and damage control he’s trying to do. The whole situation is pretty messed up.
The completionist didn’t live up to his name. He didn’t complete his charity work.
And no it’s not a funny comment.
Your tone and commentary are excellent. I had sort of missed most of this conversation until recently and it seems pretty cut and dry at this point. I understand why people might have defended him initially , especially if they had personal relationships, because I can think of lots of narratives that might reasonably have made it less his fault directly but the facts available now, the audio (probably the most incriminating) it just isn’t defensible any longer.
What I will say is that I don’t think anyone who previously defended him as an associate or friend needs to come out and apologize per se AND I don’t think it justifies the awful social media vitriol and all that. Let the legal world do their job. Unsub and stop watching the content if that is your choice. But we don’t need social media vigilante behavior. The two guys who uncovered this stuff did so professionally and have maintained the correct tone and that is what the rest of the community should do.
Stop the infighting, stop the bashing, stop the hate. It is way out in the open now and we can all move on.
Thanks for watching.
The person in the Nintendo community who has disappointed me the most with their take on this is Beatemups. I won't rehash it as Review Tech already tore into him. But it's still a letdown.
Sad that this man, who lost his mother to a horrible disease, tried to be one of the good guys by making a charity, and made a huge mistake. He could have made things better by just owning up to it fully. Yes, he would still lose many subscribers and fans, but not as many as he is losing now. He should have been 1000% transparent about that money and explain why it was sitting there for so long instead of just saying "yeah I made a mistake, but it's not entirely my fault and you all need to get over it" kind of response.
The thing is, big stars, like from movies, have all this money behind them and even all the management and staff can't prevent them from doing things that could be considered bad to various degrees.
Now take streamers and the like, anyone can be one. Enjoying someone's content is fine, but parasocial relationships should be avoided. These are all also just people and with that come all the flaws people can have. At times it might even go further than that and some could even be considered dangerous.
Correction. Jarard just said they donated some money. Thing is that the same words he used years before.
I’ll bet its all just as false as all the former times.
“I’m sorry. I fucked up. I’ll make up for my mistakes.”
There. That was it. That’s all he needed to do.
This situation is fun to watch unfold. Towards the end of The Completionist’s video that made him start to sound like super villain.
Curious to see what happens if/when the Fed jumps in to perform their audit.
This entire mess was entirely avoidable, and every step could have been mitigated, instead the choices taken have made it worse
....Sounds like that DKC2 review is coming sooner rather than later...
It’s rarely the actual controversy that brings people down. It’s the coverup or their reaction to being caught.
no Open Hand foundation is not generating interest but he could have put it in another account somewhere to do exactly that, which is charity fraud.
Final rating: DONATE IT! (Or else)
"Really worried" but still prepared enough to bring up "20 mouths to feed", all the people that this bombshell will affect, and _of course_ his mother's autopsy, while pleading-not-pleading for Karl et al to look the other way. You can tell where the anger at the end of his reply video was coming from: _How dare you go ahead after all that._
People have gone to jail for close to a decade for way way less than what he has done and has been proven and confirmed by him multiple times.
Jirard is not going to "walk" away from this, he will be taken.
I think the “do you guys want money?” Line is what got me thinking even though he said that this isn’t what this was about. It was on his mind which makes me think that he was taking a more defensive stance and trying to sweep it under the rug to not hurt his reputation. I don’t want to assume he’s a bad guy ever since the projared drama but it all feels pretty damning.
Good gravy what more do you kids need? He’s lying through his teeth the entire time. I didn’t know until 2 years ago… oh I mean we were saving it up to really make a difference…. Actually I mean we couldn’t find a good place to donate it… and then even after he says he found out, he’s still been caught not only saying he donated the money but cited specific charities he claimed they gave money too. lol.. man if you guys don’t get it by now, you never will.
@@datacipher I understand it’s not the strongest stance and that we’ve heard both sides. I’m not watching his videos or supporting him in any way. I’m just looking for new developments. I trust Karl Jobst and Some Ordinary Gamers info but maybe there’s more to this. It’s fraud plain and simple I just wanna see if there’s any recovery from this.
@@IncendiarySpud OK, well it's fair to always be open to knew info, but what is there is already proof of fraud and chronic outright lying. Moreover Jirard has addressed it both in their call and in his video response - and had NOTHING. There is little that could change those basic facts now - unless it is suddenly revealed Jirard is a pod person who was replaced by aliens a decade ago and the real guy has been on Xenu with Ron Hubbard!
I was wondering what was going to happen to his Sea of Stars cameo. That one had to sting.
just a fact here dementia really only shows at its worst the brain copes until it cant perform anymore this situation just sucks
Something that has been bothering me that I don't see people bringing up is that there were red flags that either nobody noticed or cared about. For example, apparently the Khalil family doesn't know the difference between benefactor and beneficiary. The directors of a charity don't even know the basic terminology that we all know. They have their supposed beneficiaries listed as "benefactors" on their website. There was so much blatant negligence that just went unnoticed by everyone. It just went on and nobody cared enough to look at it in detail. Personally I think a charity whose own directors and website regularly confuse terms like beneficiary and benefactor is pretty sus. I wonder if anybody ever actually went to the website, saw that, and went "nah, fam." It's honestly surprising that just never got corrected by anyone. Nobody ever pointed it out or anything. This might seem like a weird thing to focus on but it's such a basic thing and it would have been so easy to have someone proofread the site just to make sure it looks okay. They couldn't be bothered to do even that much
People should watch Certified Gaming Accountant's videos on this. An actual CPA taking the spin out of it. And thanks for doing this. Situations like this are why I don't donate to stuff as much as I could/should. You're restoring my faith
How is your faith being restored? I'm LESS trusting now.
@@TimothyTimPSPshhhh. Don't point that out! It's being restored. Let him cook. Nah but I'm also confused about the faith restoration that is taking place in the comment. I guess you could have lost faith in the steadfast belief you've held that people are going to do the shittiest thing possible during COVID because you just stayed home and read books or something so to not see anyone doing shitty stuff. Now upon learning about this situation he is like "oh wait, people really are still shitty" 🥲
@@TimothyTimPSP b/c there are people like player essence who understand the need to declare publicly that this is NOT how you run charitable efforts.
@@blakel.6337 I agree that's a good thing, but the 600k is a pretty big lie. Gonna take more than that to get me to trust again.
Beyond Girard, which is terrible, I really find the position of Beatemups despicable and Bob Wulf regrettable. Defending wrong actions of a bad guy even if he is your friend is weak and deserves no respect.
Not surprised about Beatemups. He’s no stranger to manipulation tactics. You know that saying, birds of a feather flock together.
@@jenniferhamels1176 yeah you are right. It's actually funny there are plenty of people who can't stand Beatemups but somehow he got a pretty large following
This is a measured, reasonable take on the situation from a Nintendo RUclipsr. Refreshing.
Facts. Even RGT85, another Nintendo RUclipsr, had a similar measured, reasonable take on the situation that he posted on his RUclips channel a few days ago. RGT85, though, had a friend of a friend connection to Jirard/The Completionist.
What Jirard did was indeed wrong. I've been following him for over a decade now and this really hurts to watch unfold.
What I don't like however, is people still thinking he kept the money for his own gain. That doesn't seem to be the case. But the management of the money is awful. Going so long, having your donors thinking they are donating to a good cause only for nothing to be done is the worst thing you could experience. I just want to know why he let this go on for so long despite knowing.
The new audio shows that this is also someone who knew what he was doing was wrong, yet he didn't try and change his future.
I always give others a second chance if they really want to change. And I will do the same for Jirard if he comes clean. His path forward will be extremely difficult. I don't wish for the downfall or despair of anyone. I only hope he can mend what can be mended and tha the continues to move forward in life.
Remember that Muta abd Karl were tipped off before they went about investing. Someone around Jirard knew what was going on and told THEM which creates an atmosphere that Jirard would have remained quiet for as long as it was convenient for HIM. He can say it 'wasn't cool' bit if he knew since 2022/2022, he still did nothing if it warranted someone on the inside to whistle blow.
My question is even if he didn’t embezzle it why would you let it just sit there for nearly a decade.
Frontal temporal dementia it’s the same thing Bruce Willis has
They should now be investigated by the relevant authorities and punished accordingly. It looks like there's a lot of money 'evaporated' into the ether...These funds need to be accounted for.
He actually has committed felony embezzlement by paying himself what it costs to run indieland while saying that "everything goes to charity we take none of it".
I don't think Jirard ever internalized that neither Muta nor Jobst were attacking him with malicious intent. Had he approached this critically and got on the discord again and say "What do I need to square away to make things right?", then he could've mitigated the damage much more effectively.
The issue is there's no squaring it away. He knew once it came out he'd be screwed, there's just no way to make what he did sound ok
man...i've known about the completionist since i was a teen (im 30) and always enjoyed his stuff. Its a really shitty situation he's found himself in. Honestly, it could have been an accounting error, someone, admittedly him, following up and making sure things were done. But overall it feels really scummy the whole situation and how he's handled it.
I got an Etika logo tattoo a few years ago after his passing. Never forget, JoyconBoyzForever
Brace yourself for the jirardbots.
Jitards
If he made an effort to fix things when he "discovered" that the funds were not donated to any charities, he could have saved this whole situation. His dishonesty and the actions of his company/charity lead to this. It could have been anyone else, it wouldn't have to have been Karl or Muta to discover it and bring things to light and the same things would have happened. What messed me up more were the people I was subbed to that are friends with him, backing him even AFTER the second round of information came out. He didn't deserve unconditional support, especially for this crap situation.