"At worst being deported to the colonies." I think being "deported to the colonies" would've been the luckiest break these poor farmers would've gotten in their lives.
One of my English ancestors was sentenced in the Old Bailey to death. He was brought back before the judge and offered clemency but refused as death was seen as preferable to transportation. He was brought before the judge three times that day before finally agreeing to transport to What is now Australia so it certainly wasn’t viewed as much of a break.
@@craigjones2878 Was this during the Victorian age? Australia was originally a prison colony for England but not as recently as the Victorian age?. I'm not sure. Victoria became queen in 1837? He must've lived before the Victorian age. The USA was already a powerful nation in 1837. And I think Australia was a country at that time, unless they were still a colony and were accepting prisoners during the time of Victoria.
This video should not compare the Victorian era with Today, they ought to compare it with the 18th Century. Then they will realise that things were getting better and better, They were made better by "Industrial advances" not Marxist Doctrine. One great example is "The Modern Washing Machine" it is the greatest single item of invention that has Liberated Women.
@@chivebutter8794 This video should not compare the Victorian era with Today, they ought to compare it with the 18th Century. Then they will realise that things were getting better and better, They were made better by "Industrial advances" not Marxist Doctrine. One great example is "The Modern Washing Machine" it is the greatest single item of invention that has Liberated Women.
These days it seems unbelievable that such things happened to ordinary folks.There were kids who were chimney sweeps who barely made it to 30.Those who wallow in nostalgia should wake up and smell the coffee
18:17 Poverty is still so visible around the world, just have to walk a little bit away from the privileged places of a city. Sadly, we don’t do enough about it.
I don't believe the cruelty to children and working class people being condemned to poverty was inevitable. That's utter sophistry and a convenient justification for class oppression.
David Copperfield, Oliver Twist, Nicholas Nickleby and Our Mutual Friend come to mind. There are probably many other relevant stories with a social dimension to them.
He was terrible to his own family. Typical hypocrite social reformist author, writing of virtues of compassion and duty, which he spurned in practice himself.
@@danfunk5505Because you are a teacher, it's worth noting that "everyday" is an adjective. If you want to indicate that something happens daily, it's "every day," in two words.
When you look at almost every city to the largest cities of the world, we have not much changed with the discrepancy between the rich and poor. We just put rose-coloured glasses on to pretend it doesn't exist. We didn't even get better at hiding it in some cities.
The English were, for at least two centuries leading up to the mid 20th Century, a cruel and inhuman lot. Their efforts to colonize as much of the earth as possible was marked by brutality and hubris. That attitude was little more tempered at home. It’s unfortunate that the heavy cloak of the monarchy wasn’t thrown off prior to Victoria’s rein when there were strong feelings to end it. It’s puzzling why Victoria gets so much undeserved credit as her most significant accomplishment was longevity.
Good reading on this subject: The 2nd half of "Down And Out In Paris And London" by G. Orwell Short story "The Spike" by G. Orwell "The Road To Wigan Pier" by G. Orwell "People Of The Abyss" by Jack London "London Labour And The London Poor" by Henry Mayhew Except for the Orwells which may still be in copyright, they're free online if you look.
There is a big and very important difference ..In modern times if you don't want to work , or are unable to work , the State looks after you ..Modern society is a lot easier than Victorian times in the UK .
Rubbish, This video should not compare the Victorian era with Today, they ought to compare it with the 18th Century. Then they will realise that things were getting better and better, They were made better by "Industrial advances" not Marxist Doctrine. One great example is "The Modern Washing Machine" it is the greatest single item of invention that has Liberated Women.
The US has lower social mobility than the UK right now. Along with, well, much worst stats in every area, from life expectancy to death in childbirth, violence of all kinds etc.
This video should not compare the Victorian era with Today, they ought to compare it with the 18th Century. Then they will realise that things were getting better and better, They were made better by "Industrial advances" not Marxist Doctrine. One great example is "The Modern Washing Machine" it is the greatest single item of invention that has Liberated Women.
Interesting that there was no mention of Friedrich Engels' monumental work "The Conditions of the Working Class in Manchester and Leeds." This was written during the core period discussed in the video. And of course there was no mention of Karl Marx's work which had a profound effect on Europe as a whole in the 1840's.
This video should not compare the Victorian era with Today, they ought to compare it with the 18th Century. Then they will realise that things were getting better and better, They were made better by "Industrial advances" not Marxist Doctrine. One great example is "The Modern Washing Machine" it is the greatest single item of invention that has Liberated Women.
Plus the masterpiece that was "The London Labour and the London Poor" by Victorian journalist Henry Mayhew that covered the lives and living conditions of the inhabitants of vast areas of London
It is sad that comfort and wealth do not come together with goodness and understanding. It isn't realistic to believe that others will feel well doing what I refuse to do. I want to believe that we may enjoy comfort and riches, if we just dare to be patient and respect not only each other, but the wonder of nature and all that it grants and surrounds us. Many blessings in this new start.
Since this video is 8 months old, the quote 'Victoria was the longest reigning monarch in British history' is incorrect. Elizabeth II was the longest reigning monarch
Florence Nightingale was primarily involved in the administrative and organizational aspects of nursing. On the other hand Mary Seacole, a British-Jamaican nurse had direct involvement with soldiers during the Crimean War and was more popular amongst them.
Eileen, dont be fooled, This video should not compare the Victorian era with Today, they ought to compare it with the 18th Century. Then they will realise that things were getting better and better, They were made better by "Industrial advances" not Marxist Doctrine. One great example is "The Modern Washing Machine" it is the greatest single item of invention that has Liberated Women.
The poverty that was there in England is not the povery that was there in South Asia. And poverty in England will not convert a person into a terrble state of mental inferiority in England. The real terrors of poverty and inequality will be created in England only when people from India arrive there and start social communication in their native languages. But then, I must admit that I did not watch the video. So many foolish videos are there on RUclips. No time to check if this one is different.
In seeing the photos of the children I always wonder if they managed to grow to adults and then what became of their lives. What did they do did they marry did they get good jobs did they live to a good age.
The content and historic value of this presentation is interesting and valuable but do you think they could have conducted interviews in settings other than echo chambers or at least used some form of echo suppression ?!
Its interesting but not correct, This video should not compare the Victorian era with Today, they ought to compare it with the 18th Century. Then they will realise that things were getting better and better, They were made better by "Industrial advances" not Marxist Doctrine. One great example is "The Modern Washing Machine" it is the greatest single item of invention that has Liberated Women.
This video should not compare the Victorian era with Today, they ought to compare it with the 18th Century. Then they will realise that things were getting better and better, They were made better by "Industrial advances" not Marxist Doctrine. One great example is "The Modern Washing Machine" it is the greatest single item of invention that has Liberated Women.
To see a story that exemplfies the issues covered in this documentary, watch the PBS series Poldark. It stays very true to the historical reality of the day.
Because a constitutional monarchy is one of the best and most stable forms of government as demonstrated, not just by Britain, but also Spain, Denmark, Belgium, Sweden, the Netherlands, Japan, Norway, Luxembourg, just to name a few. There are also all the Commonwealth nations that keep the British monarch as their head of state such as Canada, Australia, Jamaica, Barbados etc.
@@losdesmayosdeNestor Supposedly at least, they're pulling their weight these days. Besides, a lot of the stuff you see them with, like this or that fancy crown or carriage, doesn't belong to them, the things belong to "the monarchy" or really, when you get down to it, the UK itself. King Charlie can't go pawning his fancy crown or whatever.
Why is this era celebrated? If the majority of the population in the nation are suffering and the colonized peoples in their colonies suffered, while a relatively small amount prospered, what is to celebrate?
Pretty much every modern convenience you enjoy today such as clean water, plumbing and medicine were all developed by people from this time period, you should be thanking them for your comfortable life
I feel that those that call for reparations should watch this vid and educate themselves on what the British empire did to it's own people who it treated just as cruel as those it conquered
This video should not compare the Victorian era with Today, they ought to compare it with the 18th Century. Then they will realise that things were getting better and better, They were made better by "Industrial advances" not Marxist Doctrine. One great example is "The Modern Washing Machine" it is the greatest single item of invention that has Liberated Women.
@@chrislambert9435 I agree and disagree I feel that karl Marx his philosophies were ingenious and flawed at the same however the same can be said of capitalism Capitalism is an amazing system that rewards innovation and ingenuity however it does have flaws wealth can be monopolized and the systems can manipulated to benefit a select few of the population It's the rise of Marxism and workers unions from after the first world war that began to push for more socialist policies to distribute the mass wealth capitalism can produce and create a fairer system for the Rest of society In Britain for example after ww2 the socialist labour party bought forward what was arguably the most socialist government there ever has been. However it still operate much within a capitalist framework It bought the nhs (free healthcare) social housing a welfare system and expanded the public sector nationalising some industry In conclusion dont get me wrong I'm all for capitalism However I do believe that some socialist and progressive policy needs to be in place There has to be a balance between rich and poor Keep the incentive innovation of capitalism making sure the markets stays competitive and accumulates profit yet ensure that that mas wealth created can be used to benefit the entire population not a select few No working man in a g7 country should be poor
The rich who profited off the backs of the abject poor and slaves should pay. Perhaps asset taxes so the poor today (likely generationally poor) are not burdened?
What garbage are you talking ? The so-called working class today in the UK do not even have to "work for a living" This video should not compare the Victorian era with Today, they ought to compare it with the 18th Century. Then they will realise that things were getting better and better, They were made better by "Industrial advances" not Marxist Doctrine. One great example is "The Modern Washing Machine" it is the greatest single item of invention that has Liberated Women.
Highly recommend the book series "Call the Midwife", it's also made into a classic BBC show, running up to 11 Seasons now, very heartwarmingly & brings new insights to the meaning of life. But the 3 books, OMG, so much better, I laughed & cried when reading through them. Especially, the Work House stories of some of the characters... The harsh reality & sufferings of the poor kids & their parents during the Victorian time was shocking & made me realize how fortunate I am to have a decent life in the modern time.
Karen, This video should not compare the Victorian era with Today, they ought to compare it with the 18th Century. Then they will realise that things were getting better and better, They were made better by "Industrial advances" not Marxist Doctrine. One great example is "The Modern Washing Machine" it is the greatest single item of invention that has Liberated Women.
@@chrislambert9435 You interpreted my comment meaning wrong, I'm not comparing this video, simply recommending a classic book for others to learn more about the Work House condition of the Victorian Era. Of course I know things got better since the industrial revolution. Thanks for pointing out the facts.
@@chrislambert9435 I'm in the US in "Silicon Valley" no less, and I use a plunger thing in a tall plastic container - intended to be a trash can - to wash my clothes, hanging them to air-dry. Washboards are for sale in every "Mexican" market here, and they're certainly still in use. My own plunger technique is a bit of work, but it's cheaper than the laundromat and it's about the same amount of hassle to lug my clothes to/from the laundromat.
It was a brutal and extremely inhumane era. It was this system US once revolted against, but now aspires for - Mega-rich the new aristocracy and colonialism purely economic imposing capitalist exploitation the only differences...
@@floridaman4073 There are more lotto winners then there are people who climbed the ladder :) and the number of people going down the ladder keep going up as more and more wealth is in the hands of fewer people, and you add the fact that the rich will start replacing most humans with AI's I have very little hope for the modern world.
The farmers were poor because they did not own that land they worked on and were payed almost nothing by the landlords through an economic system they had no choice about. The ideal is communal rural living away from capitalists and industry.
A very good history filled documentary with good information for students and anyone interested in the history of the Victorian age. But the Sound quality, when experts talking. very disappointing, particularly in an age when hi-fi sound and recording has never been better.
This is an older documentary and honestly I have no problem following what the experts say. Youre just used to all the shouting that goes on on social media today.
Live simply so that others may live. The work is not over. The battle not won. So many of the products we enjoy in the West are the result of workers suffering the most apalling wages & working conditions in developing countries. God is not ignorant of their suffering, nor will He ignore it. "Look! The wages you failed to pay the workers who mowed your fields are crying out against you. The cries of the harvesters have reached the ears of the Lord Almighty." James 5:4 Make as much as you can and give away as much as you can.
Haven't watched it - busy now. But titles like this already get me going. Life was tough more than 100 years ago. The value system was nothing like it is today. Poverty was a given for most. The poor did not suffer because of inequality. The poor suffered because they were poor and had no opportunity. Not because somebody else was stinking rich. This moronic way of thinking causes serious problems even today. Equality is nothing. Opportunity for the poor is everything. And those two things are not the same thing. It is the reason communism and socialism don't work. And it is the reason we have to curb the tendency towards monopolies in capitalism. Nothing wrong with rich people getting richer. But poor people with no opportunity is a problem.
The false claim "white privilege " comes to mind in this example and the suggestion the working class benefitted from the spoils of the British Empire .men joined the army to be fed regularly
I wonder what happened to Rachel Iliffe, she is not mentioned in any search of the Blists Hill site. I would have thought she, at least, deserves a mention. And what is she doing today? I hope she is well and still with us. The majority of English men at that time, were as much a slave, as those darker skinned souls called by that name.
It was an incredible and truthful introduction about lowers classes brutality suffered in Britain 🇬🇧 sovereigns and most prosecutions practiced by colonial authors against indigenous populations beyond British imperial colonialism
This video should not compare the Victorian era with Today, they ought to compare it with the 18th Century. Then they will realise that things were getting better and better, They were made better by "Industrial advances" not Marxist Doctrine. One great example is "The Modern Washing Machine" it is the greatest single item of invention that has Liberated Women.
The longer I live, the more I am astonished that the majority of human beings never stopped having children. What a vicious, never ending circle this is.
Back then, people didn't view children as the luxuries we do today. In a poor family, the more children you had, the more potential wage-earners you had. Also, the child mortality rate was EXTREMELY high in the Victorian era, and most parents, even wealthy ones, didn't dare to hope that you were actually going to get to raise every child that was born to you. The more kids you had, the more likely that at least SOME of them were going to live to adulthood!
This video should not compare the Victorian era with Today, they ought to compare it with the 18th Century. Then they will realise that things were getting better and better
I always think somehow my ancestors must have survived, hence my being here. London would have been their home, and they certainly would not have belonged to the top 2%...... obviously the majority were of the poor souls mentioned in this video as there were no such group as the middle classes in those times.
This video should not compare the Victorian era with Today, they ought to compare it with the 18th Century. Then they will realise that things were getting better and better, They were made better by "Industrial advances" not Marxist Doctrine. One great example is "The Modern Washing Machine" it is the greatest single item of invention that has Liberated Women.
Take the good with the bad. The ability of bright men to work in research and experimentation because they were wealthy off the backs of others brought about much of the technological improvements mentioned here.
And neoliberal economic dogma is fast sending the UK and other western countries right back to this!! I've always said if you want to see what the Tory end-game is - read Charles Dickens!!
When was this documentary made? Posted 3 weeks ago, and the presenters are all quite young. Yet it looks like it was made in the late 90s or early 00s. Why does it look like it was made for old tv screens too, with the black bars on the sides?
Yes I was born in 1963 in Johannesburg and yes a whole lot of us Johannesburg kids born in the 60's and 70's in Johannesburg south Africa proudly say I was Born at the QUEEN VIC THE MAIN MATERNITY HOSPITAL IN JOHANNESBURG.
Please everybody Read / Reread "Nicholas Nickleby". Dickens fingered his view & inhaled the scent of poverty through the luxury of record the Printed Page ~ the Book ~ no less "Oliver Twist" † the workhouses a busying place to store children ~ working or dying ? How many sweet little faces small hands awaiting a hapenny of gruel / heel of bread 🫨😮🥺 Why was English Monarchy so evil to starve children ? Is there a Why?😢
Yes, the era ,the British empire saw great changes take place yet, the same empire let their people in the worst kind of human poverty possibile. So how did this great power serve it's people ? The absolutely appalling and hypocritical state of the Victorian age had no bearing or regard for humanity nor justice but only for the opulence of the upper classes that is still going on today in the United-Kingdom. A class segregated society where only wealth is important and all forms of decent morality has gone. The Victorian age, the worst era in British history.
Does anyone know what year this documentary is from? I don't understand why not even the smallest information on the docu itself is written in the info box...
As it appears to be in a 4:3 aspect ratio, and had the look and feel of the late 80's or 90's. I would guess in that time period. It looks like a production from that time period (I'm old I was there)!
Btw you know living 10 to a room and one bathroom in a old tenament is now considered chic and trendy especially in NYC..😂only difference is that building was crappy when new buit cleaned up and fixed up to code with gentrification and asbestos and led paint removal yet keeping its antique charm but instead of 5.00$ a month you might pay 5k...now and where i live alot of us wish we could defect to the uk just to become citizens and try your NHS...so dont knock your country too much..at least you have that and alot of beautiful country side and appreciate your history... I'm half native American but I wish I could go to the part of the uk my other half of my family came from..not sure how I'd fair being poor there but at least I can die with dignity able to get medical care..our disability system is designed to keep you poor and the attitude twards us isn't much different than the attitudes twards our ancestors in this video 😢
Fek, This video should not compare the Victorian era with Today, they ought to compare it with the 18th Century. Then they will realise that things were getting better and better, They were made better by "Industrial advances" not Marxist Doctrine. One great example is "The Modern Washing Machine" it is the greatest single item of invention that has Liberated Women.
I believe I’ve heard Grieg and Mendelssohn and Brahms as background music and I am only a third through it. Same era, though. ALSO: near the end all three were mentioned as Queen Victoria’s favorites and popular music among the middle classes.
The work house if re worked into something actually helpful might not be too terrible if it didn't separate families and ran like some of the salvation armys programs ( like where if you found work theyd let you live there for a while till you got on your feet..or actually gave you Real work and a Real trade you can actually use when you got out or help you get a GED if you didn't have one and actually helped the homeless and not made them feel like garbage it might actually not be a bad place if it was re made into an actual place that helped others and not hurt them ...and actually gave them some lousy dignity ..and I'm not being woke or anything.. I've been homeless before and it stinks and some homeless relief is good and some i plead the 5 th 😅
This video should not compare the Victorian era with Today, they ought to compare it with the 18th Century. Then they will realise that things were getting better and better, They were made better by "Industrial advances" not Marxist Doctrine. One great example is "The Modern Washing Machine" it is the greatest single item of invention that has Liberated Women.
This is not much different than the direction the West is again approaching. The Victorian Era was a patronage system so the skilled individual could not be socioeconomically mobile with out a patron. This is collectivism in short.
You mean the collapsing of Europe as Germany de industrialises? or the rise of the right throughout Europe? You will be on your knees thanking God you are not over there as it sinks. On the other hand, why not reduce the stupid moaning sillies by one, (or more if you take the family) and go live in Europe?
"At worst being deported to the colonies." I think being "deported to the colonies" would've been the luckiest break these poor farmers would've gotten in their lives.
One of my English ancestors was sentenced in the Old Bailey to death. He was brought back before the judge and offered clemency but refused as death was seen as preferable to transportation. He was brought before the judge three times that day before finally agreeing to transport to What is now Australia so it certainly wasn’t viewed as much of a break.
@@craigjones2878 Was this during the Victorian age? Australia was originally a prison colony for England but not as recently as the Victorian age?. I'm not sure.
Victoria became queen in 1837?
He must've lived before the Victorian age. The USA was already a powerful nation in 1837. And I think Australia was a country at that time, unless they were still a colony and were accepting prisoners during the time of Victoria.
@@carlomiller1984 convict transportation ceased in 1857
Australia was a backwater colony, in comparison to England being the centre of the empire. How times change
This video should not compare the Victorian era with Today, they ought to compare it with the 18th Century. Then they will realise that things were getting better and better, They were made better by "Industrial advances" not Marxist Doctrine. One great example is "The Modern Washing Machine" it is the greatest single item of invention that has Liberated Women.
History is cyclical because elitism never dies.
...and they're all faux
Just look at China for a prime example
@seanh4841 can look at the modern day uk instead
We need Leaders
@@chivebutter8794 This video should not compare the Victorian era with Today, they ought to compare it with the 18th Century. Then they will realise that things were getting better and better, They were made better by "Industrial advances" not Marxist Doctrine. One great example is "The Modern Washing Machine" it is the greatest single item of invention that has Liberated Women.
These days it seems unbelievable that such things happened to ordinary folks.There were kids who were chimney sweeps who barely made it to 30.Those who wallow in nostalgia should wake up and smell the coffee
18:17 Poverty is still so visible around the world, just have to walk a little bit away from the privileged places of a city. Sadly, we don’t do enough about it.
It was the best of times. It was the worst of times..
Or soot
I don't believe the cruelty to children and working class people being condemned to poverty was inevitable. That's utter sophistry and a convenient justification for class oppression.
Just Read Charles Dickens ~ he was the social media then ~ 📚
And a perv.
David Copperfield, Oliver Twist, Nicholas Nickleby and Our Mutual Friend come to mind. There are probably many other relevant stories with a social dimension to them.
He started out with "Sketches By Boz" and "The Pickwick Papers"
He was terrible to his own family. Typical hypocrite social reformist author, writing of virtues of compassion and duty, which he spurned in practice himself.
Are there no prisons , are there no workhouses? - Ebenezer Scrooge
As a Teacher, I say this to my kids almost everyday.
@@danfunk5505why are you saying this to kids everyday??
@@danfunk5505Because you are a teacher, it's worth noting that "everyday" is an adjective. If you want to indicate that something happens daily, it's "every day," in two words.
When you look at almost every city to the largest cities of the world, we have not much changed with the discrepancy between the rich and poor. We just put rose-coloured glasses on to pretend it doesn't exist. We didn't even get better at hiding it in some cities.
idiotic nonsense
@@samantharay6098why bro
@@samantharay6098what idiotic bro?????
The English were, for at least two centuries leading up to the mid 20th Century, a cruel and inhuman lot. Their efforts to colonize as much of the earth as possible was marked by brutality and hubris. That attitude was little more tempered at home. It’s unfortunate that the heavy cloak of the monarchy wasn’t thrown off prior to Victoria’s rein when there were strong feelings to end it. It’s puzzling why Victoria gets so much undeserved credit as her most significant accomplishment was longevity.
Can't stop progress.
Good reading on this subject: The 2nd half of "Down And Out In Paris And London" by G. Orwell
Short story "The Spike" by G. Orwell
"The Road To Wigan Pier" by G. Orwell
"People Of The Abyss" by Jack London
"London Labour And The London Poor" by Henry Mayhew
Except for the Orwells which may still be in copyright, they're free online if you look.
Yes, I have read both "Road to Wigan Pier" and "Down and Out in Paris and London". The politicians in this country are using them for their policies.
the same inequality defines the present day economy
Truth! Especially in the US.
There is a big and very important difference ..In modern times if you don't want to work , or are unable to work , the State looks after you ..Modern society is a lot easier than Victorian times in the UK .
Wuss.
Rubbish, This video should not compare the Victorian era with Today, they ought to compare it with the 18th Century. Then they will realise that things were getting better and better, They were made better by "Industrial advances" not Marxist Doctrine. One great example is "The Modern Washing Machine" it is the greatest single item of invention that has Liberated Women.
The US has lower social mobility than the UK right now. Along with, well, much worst stats in every area, from life expectancy to death in childbirth, violence of all kinds etc.
Please, sir. I'd like some more.
I find Dickens the greatest social reporter of that era.
There has always been inequality...........and always will be.........some things never change.
This video should not compare the Victorian era with Today, they ought to compare it with the 18th Century. Then they will realise that things were getting better and better, They were made better by "Industrial advances" not Marxist Doctrine. One great example is "The Modern Washing Machine" it is the greatest single item of invention that has Liberated Women.
Only if we allow them to. There is no Justice, JUST US! (Death in Terry Pratchetts novels)
in your mind...
Interesting that there was no mention of Friedrich Engels' monumental work "The Conditions of the Working Class in Manchester and Leeds." This was written during the core period discussed in the video. And of course there was no mention of Karl Marx's work which had a profound effect on Europe as a whole in the 1840's.
Engles & Marx replacing one form of DICTATORSHIP, The British Empire WITH ANOTHER DICTATORSHIP, LENIN & Communism!
"BRILLIANT IDEA"?? NOT!!!
This video should not compare the Victorian era with Today, they ought to compare it with the 18th Century. Then they will realise that things were getting better and better, They were made better by "Industrial advances" not Marxist Doctrine. One great example is "The Modern Washing Machine" it is the greatest single item of invention that has Liberated Women.
Plus the masterpiece that was "The London Labour and the London Poor" by Victorian journalist Henry Mayhew that covered the lives and living conditions of the inhabitants of vast areas of London
I smell a commie.
And don't forget the endless deaths the doctrines of those authors are responsible for, and that haven't plagued the Uk, thank god.
So true!
What a good documentary. No fancy graphics just good history.
But intrusive background music.
Timeline always has good documentaries
It is sad that comfort and wealth do not come together with goodness and understanding. It isn't realistic to believe that others will feel well doing what I refuse to do. I want to believe that we may enjoy comfort and riches, if we just dare to be patient and respect not only each other, but the wonder of nature and all that it grants and surrounds us.
Many blessings in this new start.
Since this video is 8 months old, the quote 'Victoria was the longest reigning monarch in British history' is incorrect. Elizabeth II was the longest reigning monarch
Florence Nightingale was primarily involved in the administrative and organizational aspects of nursing. On the other hand Mary Seacole, a British-Jamaican nurse had direct involvement with soldiers during the Crimean War and was more popular amongst them.
Sure.
Yes the social values of the Victorian years were hiddeous
My own working class grandparents were born then.And I knew them well..
Awful Victorian values.... and it's coming back unfortunately
Eileen, dont be fooled, This video should not compare the Victorian era with Today, they ought to compare it with the 18th Century. Then they will realise that things were getting better and better, They were made better by "Industrial advances" not Marxist Doctrine. One great example is "The Modern Washing Machine" it is the greatest single item of invention that has Liberated Women.
Bit extreme
It never left.
The poverty that was there in England is not the povery that was there in South Asia. And poverty in England will not convert a person into a terrble state of mental inferiority in England.
The real terrors of poverty and inequality will be created in England only when people from India arrive there and start social communication in their native languages.
But then, I must admit that I did not watch the video. So many foolish videos are there on RUclips. No time to check if this one is different.
@@VED036then why are you even commenting???
In seeing the photos of the children I always wonder if they managed to grow to adults and then what became of their lives. What did they do did they marry did they get good jobs did they live to a good age.
Plenty of books on this if you really are curious.
No most died in childhood or early 30s .
The content and historic value of this presentation is interesting and valuable but do you think they could have conducted interviews in settings other than echo chambers or at least used some form of echo suppression ?!
A very good point.
Its interesting but not correct, This video should not compare the Victorian era with Today, they ought to compare it with the 18th Century. Then they will realise that things were getting better and better, They were made better by "Industrial advances" not Marxist Doctrine. One great example is "The Modern Washing Machine" it is the greatest single item of invention that has Liberated Women.
Yes, i am struggling to understand the young lady talking in the dark room.
Things are moving in that direction again
This video should not compare the Victorian era with Today, they ought to compare it with the 18th Century. Then they will realise that things were getting better and better, They were made better by "Industrial advances" not Marxist Doctrine. One great example is "The Modern Washing Machine" it is the greatest single item of invention that has Liberated Women.
To see a story that exemplfies the issues covered in this documentary, watch the PBS series Poldark. It stays very true to the historical reality of the day.
Coming back to a street near you. !
Elizabeth is the longest reigning monarch now, not Victoria. Just saying
And this documentary was done several years ago when Victoria was the longest reigning monarch in Britain…just saying 🙄
@@JGJGAGSGdo you know what year this was made in? I can’t find the information.
@@MalloryKnox. at the end of the video, it says 1995
Yes we realise that, it was correct when this was made,
Why doesn't England get rid of their monarchy already. It's centuries overdue
One word: Tradition.
Plus great revenue from tourism and consumerism of related products
Because a constitutional monarchy is one of the best and most stable forms of government as demonstrated, not just by Britain, but also Spain, Denmark, Belgium, Sweden, the Netherlands, Japan, Norway, Luxembourg, just to name a few. There are also all the Commonwealth nations that keep the British monarch as their head of state such as Canada, Australia, Jamaica, Barbados etc.
@@losdesmayosdeNestor Supposedly at least, they're pulling their weight these days. Besides, a lot of the stuff you see them with, like this or that fancy crown or carriage, doesn't belong to them, the things belong to "the monarchy" or really, when you get down to it, the UK itself. King Charlie can't go pawning his fancy crown or whatever.
This is where one starts investigating British class system,s reality. Long ago The King got in debt (wars) to the bankers
Why is this era celebrated? If the majority of the population in the nation are suffering and the colonized peoples in their colonies suffered, while a relatively small amount prospered, what is to celebrate?
Idk, industrialisation and the fastest technological growth in history?
nothing except royalty and their mates made money out of the poor,who were treated worse than slaves
Well, you could still live in a hut with no running water, electricity or modern industrial abilities😂
Pretty much every modern convenience you enjoy today such as clean water, plumbing and medicine were all developed by people from this time period, you should be thanking them for your comfortable life
The virtue signaling in these comments is ridiculous
I feel that those that call for reparations should watch this vid and educate themselves on what the British empire did to it's own people who it treated just as cruel as those it conquered
This video should not compare the Victorian era with Today, they ought to compare it with the 18th Century. Then they will realise that things were getting better and better, They were made better by "Industrial advances" not Marxist Doctrine. One great example is "The Modern Washing Machine" it is the greatest single item of invention that has Liberated Women.
@@chrislambert9435 I agree and disagree
I feel that karl Marx his philosophies were ingenious and flawed at the same however the same can be said of capitalism
Capitalism is an amazing system that rewards innovation and ingenuity however it does have flaws wealth can be monopolized and the systems can manipulated to benefit a select few of the population
It's the rise of Marxism and workers unions from after the first world war that began to push for more socialist policies to distribute the mass wealth capitalism can produce and create a fairer system for the Rest of society
In Britain for example after ww2 the socialist labour party bought forward what was arguably the most socialist government there ever has been. However it still operate much within a capitalist framework
It bought the nhs (free healthcare) social housing a welfare system and expanded the public sector nationalising some industry
In conclusion dont get me wrong
I'm all for capitalism
However I do believe that some socialist and progressive policy needs to be in place
There has to be a balance between rich and poor
Keep the incentive innovation of capitalism making sure the markets stays competitive and accumulates profit yet ensure that that mas wealth created can be used to benefit the entire population not a select few
No working man in a g7 country should be poor
Reparations due from the wealth created from slave labour.
@@angelaalbury986 The 19th Century was much better for the working class than was the 18th
The rich who profited off the backs of the abject poor and slaves should pay. Perhaps asset taxes so the poor today (likely generationally poor) are not burdened?
Nothing has changed. Same story, different millennium!
What garbage are you talking ? The so-called working class today in the UK do not even have to "work for a living" This video should not compare the Victorian era with Today, they ought to compare it with the 18th Century. Then they will realise that things were getting better and better, They were made better by "Industrial advances" not Marxist Doctrine. One great example is "The Modern Washing Machine" it is the greatest single item of invention that has Liberated Women.
Finally someone recognises the same inequalities today.
Highly recommend the book series "Call the Midwife", it's also made into a classic BBC show, running up to 11 Seasons now, very heartwarmingly & brings new insights to the meaning of life.
But the 3 books, OMG, so much better, I laughed & cried when reading through them.
Especially, the Work House stories of some of the characters...
The harsh reality & sufferings of the poor kids & their parents during the Victorian time was shocking & made me realize how fortunate I am to have a decent life in the modern time.
Parts of the books brought me to tears
Karen, This video should not compare the Victorian era with Today, they ought to compare it with the 18th Century. Then they will realise that things were getting better and better, They were made better by "Industrial advances" not Marxist Doctrine. One great example is "The Modern Washing Machine" it is the greatest single item of invention that has Liberated Women.
@@chrislambert9435 You interpreted my comment meaning wrong, I'm not comparing this video, simply recommending a classic book for others to learn more about the Work House condition of the Victorian Era.
Of course I know things got better since the industrial revolution. Thanks for pointing out the facts.
OK Karen, Iam Sorry.
@@chrislambert9435 I'm in the US in "Silicon Valley" no less, and I use a plunger thing in a tall plastic container - intended to be a trash can - to wash my clothes, hanging them to air-dry. Washboards are for sale in every "Mexican" market here, and they're certainly still in use. My own plunger technique is a bit of work, but it's cheaper than the laundromat and it's about the same amount of hassle to lug my clothes to/from the laundromat.
It was a brutal and extremely inhumane era. It was this system US once revolted against, but now aspires for - Mega-rich the new aristocracy and colonialism purely economic imposing capitalist exploitation the only differences...
The US doesn't "aspire" to be that. It already is that.
@@BTScriviner ...and that is what Politicians call "National interests".
Huge difference in Victorian England and the US. At least in the US the ladder can be climbed.
@@floridaman4073 The American dream is dead unless you're already mega-rich.
@@floridaman4073 There are more lotto winners then there are people who climbed the ladder :) and the number of people going down the ladder keep going up as more and more wealth is in the hands of fewer people, and you add the fact that the rich will start replacing most humans with AI's I have very little hope for the modern world.
I quit at about 14 minutes because the person that came out to talk was mumbling so badly I couldn't understand what she was saying.
19:25 sounds like a lot of the west now. Many live in cars tho.
Sound is very poor at times and I can’t hear the lady speaking.
I was a middle-class member at that romantic era of Jane Eyre ❤
As frivolous as you can get love !!!❤
Actually, it made life possible only for a few
The farmers were poor because they did not own that land they worked on and were payed almost nothing by the landlords through an economic system they had no choice about.
The ideal is communal rural living away from capitalists and industry.
A very good history filled documentary with good information for students and anyone interested in the history of the Victorian age. But the Sound quality, when experts talking. very disappointing, particularly in an age when hi-fi sound and recording has never been better.
This is an older documentary and honestly I have no problem following what the experts say. Youre just used to all the shouting that goes on on social media today.
The woman speaking on my devices was very muffled, possibly her mic placement ?
Excellent documentary, however your statement at the beginning is inaccurate I believe Victoria reigned for 64 years, the late Queen Elizabeth for 70
This is a very old documentary. Can't you tell? 😉
This was made in 1995, which, at the time, their statement would be true.
Live simply so that others may live.
The work is not over. The battle not won. So many of the products we enjoy in the West are the result of workers suffering the most apalling wages & working conditions in developing countries.
God is not ignorant of their suffering, nor will He ignore it. "Look! The wages you failed to pay the workers who mowed your fields are crying out against you. The cries of the harvesters have reached the ears of the Lord Almighty." James 5:4
Make as much as you can and give away as much as you can.
Really interesting but feels like an introduction show. More details of the improvements and the drive from the countryside would have been good.
Past Farm owners would badly misuse workers & animals, yet profit from crop, livestock & dairy sales? Nonsense!
Haven't watched it - busy now. But titles like this already get me going. Life was tough more than 100 years ago. The value system was nothing like it is today. Poverty was a given for most. The poor did not suffer because of inequality. The poor suffered because they were poor and had no opportunity. Not because somebody else was stinking rich. This moronic way of thinking causes serious problems even today. Equality is nothing. Opportunity for the poor is everything. And those two things are not the same thing. It is the reason communism and socialism don't work. And it is the reason we have to curb the tendency towards monopolies in capitalism. Nothing wrong with rich people getting richer. But poor people with no opportunity is a problem.
The false claim "white privilege " comes to mind in this example and the suggestion the working class benefitted from the spoils of the British Empire .men joined the army to be fed regularly
Same reason I joined the army in the US around 1980 so yes I agree.
my sentiment exactly,they were worse off than slaves
I really enjoy the narration
I wonder what happened to Rachel Iliffe, she is not mentioned in any search of the Blists Hill site.
I would have thought she, at least, deserves a mention. And what is she doing today? I hope she is well and still with us.
The majority of English men at that time, were as much a slave, as those darker skinned souls called by that name.
It was an incredible and truthful introduction about lowers classes brutality suffered in Britain 🇬🇧 sovereigns and most prosecutions practiced by colonial authors against indigenous populations beyond British imperial colonialism
This video should not compare the Victorian era with Today, they ought to compare it with the 18th Century. Then they will realise that things were getting better and better, They were made better by "Industrial advances" not Marxist Doctrine. One great example is "The Modern Washing Machine" it is the greatest single item of invention that has Liberated Women.
The longer I live, the more I am astonished that the majority of human beings never stopped having children. What a vicious, never ending circle this is.
In the Victorian era; indeed right up until 1960 - they had no bloody choice. There was no reliable contraception.
I was surprised when I watched another documentary on Victoria that she didn't know why she kept getting pregnant.
Back then, people didn't view children as the luxuries we do today. In a poor family, the more children you had, the more potential wage-earners you had. Also, the child mortality rate was EXTREMELY high in the Victorian era, and most parents, even wealthy ones, didn't dare to hope that you were actually going to get to raise every child that was born to you. The more kids you had, the more likely that at least SOME of them were going to live to adulthood!
Imagine that.. Not Queen forra day but forran Era !
this feels lilke mid 90s, waits t to the end.... yeasth 1995 lol
I agree with you. Those awful Victorian values are coming back
Habibi come to Dubai, Doha, Abu Dhabi, Kuwait, Saudi etc it all still exists only for your oil and holiday destination
It's my favorite time in British history. A time of unprecedented scientific and engineering advances.
This video should not compare the Victorian era with Today, they ought to compare it with the 18th Century. Then they will realise that things were getting better and better
@@chrislambert9435 Better for some.
I always think somehow my ancestors must have survived, hence my being here. London would have been their home, and they certainly would not have belonged to the top 2%...... obviously the majority were of the poor souls mentioned in this video as there were no such group as the middle classes in those times.
There was no free education in ENGLAND but thanks to the Presbyterian church Scotlanbd had schools open to all.
No mention of Ireland and the famine..............................................!!
Now curry is the national dish. Delicious!
43:20 Dude was one of the OG train men.
Thank you for this video
Oh rejoice! Western civilization has improved somewhat, since those dark days.
This video should not compare the Victorian era with Today, they ought to compare it with the 18th Century. Then they will realise that things were getting better and better, They were made better by "Industrial advances" not Marxist Doctrine. One great example is "The Modern Washing Machine" it is the greatest single item of invention that has Liberated Women.
Take the good with the bad. The ability of bright men to work in research and experimentation because they were wealthy off the backs of others brought about much of the technological improvements mentioned here.
The difference between rich and poor is massively greater now ironically
And neoliberal economic dogma is fast sending the UK and other western countries right back to this!! I've always said if you want to see what the Tory end-game is - read Charles Dickens!!
When was this documentary made? Posted 3 weeks ago, and the presenters are all quite young.
Yet it looks like it was made in the late 90s or early 00s. Why does it look like it was made for old tv screens too, with the black bars on the sides?
Im wondering if anyone called her Vicky?
cutout the bacckground music and it wouldl be great documentary
Very informative
I think wires crossed? Advert for Pdq printing -not Victorian life?????
Yes I was born in 1963 in Johannesburg and yes a whole lot of us Johannesburg kids born in the 60's and 70's in Johannesburg south Africa proudly say I was Born at the QUEEN VIC THE MAIN MATERNITY HOSPITAL IN JOHANNESBURG.
What is that music at the beginning. I don't see any mention of it.
Piano Concerto in A minor by Edvard Grieg
@@Jemimia Thanks so much. Thought it was Grieg. So many gorgeous pieces in this video. What was the last one that was repeated many time.
Please everybody Read / Reread "Nicholas Nickleby". Dickens fingered his view & inhaled the scent of poverty through the luxury of record the Printed Page ~ the Book ~ no less "Oliver Twist" † the workhouses a busying place to store children ~ working or dying ? How many sweet little faces small hands awaiting a hapenny of gruel / heel of bread 🫨😮🥺
Why was English Monarchy so evil to starve children ?
Is there a Why?😢
Probably not the only thing he "fingered."
Yes, the era ,the British empire saw great changes take place yet, the same empire let their people in the worst kind of human poverty possibile. So how did this great power serve it's people ? The absolutely appalling and hypocritical state of the Victorian age had no bearing or regard for humanity nor justice but only for the opulence of the upper classes that is still going on today in the United-Kingdom. A class segregated society where only wealth is important and all forms of decent morality has gone. The Victorian age, the worst era in British history.
British Queen, empress of India and of Africa.
Thank you!
Bring back the workhouses. 😉
Does anyone know what year this documentary is from? I don't understand why not even the smallest information on the docu itself is written in the info box...
As it appears to be in a 4:3 aspect ratio, and had the look and feel of the late 80's or 90's. I would guess in that time period. It looks like a production from that time period (I'm old I was there)!
It says 1995 during the end credits.
Sorry but British empire was very brutal as colonizers and the own people.
You don't need to start the sentence with "sorry but". 🙂
@@andrewstevenson118 sorry
@@dorotapogubila4427 🙂 EDIT: That wasn't a criticism of your English. I was saying you don't need to apologise for your views.
The poor got poorer and the rich got richer and plundering the world with cheap labour. Shame on the BRITISH CROWN😢
So?
Stuff got built, built to last.
Actually there's a ton of "survivorship bias" the stuff that was really good, lasted and was kept. The trashy stuff was worn out, lost, and forgotten.
Can anyone identify the classical music used?
The music at 1:51 is Grieg - Piano Concerto in A minor, Op 16
This is a rework of something I saw before RUclips rip-off as usual
I'd rather the Edwardian Era if I could go back in time.
Look at all the History buffs commenting to make this video more accurate.
Their highness is our lowness. Always remember that unjust principle.
The word Parliament......... is not Par-lee-ament, It's pronounced Par-luh-ment
Just watching a live stream of 2024.....😢
When was this filmed - i can't find it anywhere??
It’s copyrighted at 1995 at the end so probably then or just before then. 55:37
Read The Ladies of Whitechapel a good insight
Btw you know living 10 to a room and one bathroom in a old tenament is now considered chic and trendy especially in NYC..😂only difference is that building was crappy when new buit cleaned up and fixed up to code with gentrification and asbestos and led paint removal yet keeping its antique charm but instead of 5.00$ a month you might pay 5k...now and where i live alot of us wish we could defect to the uk just to become citizens and try your NHS...so dont knock your country too much..at least you have that and alot of beautiful country side and appreciate your history... I'm half native American but I wish I could go to the part of the uk my other half of my family came from..not sure how I'd fair being poor there but at least I can die with dignity able to get medical care..our disability system is designed to keep you poor and the attitude twards us isn't much different than the attitudes twards our ancestors in this video 😢
The title is long winded, just call it as it is..." Ah.. the good old days "
It was the Age Of Plunder. 🤔
Fek, This video should not compare the Victorian era with Today, they ought to compare it with the 18th Century. Then they will realise that things were getting better and better, They were made better by "Industrial advances" not Marxist Doctrine. One great example is "The Modern Washing Machine" it is the greatest single item of invention that has Liberated Women.
I wonder when this programme was made? I don't think the beeb would make programmes about the white working class in 2023!
Longest reigning British monarch? Are you sure about that?
Err, was Tchaikovsky British? I think not! Intro music was, I believe, his Piano Concerto in A Minor.
I believe I’ve heard Grieg and Mendelssohn and Brahms as background music and I am only a third through it. Same era, though.
ALSO: near the end all three were mentioned as Queen Victoria’s favorites and popular music among the middle classes.
Close, but not close enough 😅 Intro at 1:51 is Grieg - Piano Concerto in A minor, Op 16
The work house if re worked into something actually helpful might not be too terrible if it didn't separate families and ran like some of the salvation armys programs ( like where if you found work theyd let you live there for a while till you got on your feet..or actually gave you Real work and a Real trade you can actually use when you got out or help you get a GED if you didn't have one and actually helped the homeless and not made them feel like garbage it might actually not be a bad place if it was re made into an actual place that helped others and not hurt them ...and actually gave them some lousy dignity ..and I'm not being woke or anything.. I've been homeless before and it stinks and some homeless relief is good and some i plead the 5 th 😅
And people wonder why Marx was a 'teeny tiny bit ambivalent' about the prevaling economic conditions of that time.
This video should not compare the Victorian era with Today, they ought to compare it with the 18th Century. Then they will realise that things were getting better and better, They were made better by "Industrial advances" not Marxist Doctrine. One great example is "The Modern Washing Machine" it is the greatest single item of invention that has Liberated Women.
How could you be so cruel to your own people?
This is not much different than the direction the West is again approaching. The Victorian Era was a patronage system so the skilled individual could not be socioeconomically mobile with out a patron. This is collectivism in short.
Gentleman jack
I see Brexit is kicking in
The thing is the possibility of such advances is impossible now
You mean the collapsing of Europe as Germany de industrialises? or the rise of the right throughout Europe?
You will be on your knees thanking God you are not over there as it sinks.
On the other hand, why not reduce the stupid moaning sillies by one, (or more if you take the family) and go live in Europe?
There might have been 40 million at the end of the 19th century and now there are 70 million but still only 40 million real Brits.
Who are the other 30 million if not real Brits?