Could You Survive the Living Conditions of Victorian Workers?

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  • Опубликовано: 29 ноя 2024

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  • @HistoryHit
    @HistoryHit  Год назад +52

    Hope you enjoy guys! Remember to check out Part One for a taste of life inside the factories if you haven't already 🏭: ruclips.net/video/hY4ptEzxNwM/видео.html 👈

    • @merja68
      @merja68 Год назад

      M...

    • @matthewcarey3148
      @matthewcarey3148 8 месяцев назад

      These are both great videos! Thanks for uploading them!

    • @LeahDyson-kq4bd
      @LeahDyson-kq4bd 5 месяцев назад

      I can't tell if this is worse than my grandparents childhood in NY tenements lol

  • @WifeMamaArtist
    @WifeMamaArtist Год назад +270

    All those commentors talking about how much tougher kids used to be.
    1. This is a cleaned up freshly painted version of how things looked (and smelled probably).
    2. Child mortality rates where through the roof.
    3. There was pretty much no birth control.
    4. (Most importantly). WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO PUT YOUNG KIDS THROUGH THIS HELL TODAY!!!

    • @HardstylePete
      @HardstylePete Год назад +24

      Whilst it was terrible working conditions, it worth noting that it's not like it was paradise outside the mills. Working in agriculture was hard, dangerous and potentially unreliable work. People came to the mills out of necessity of survival.

    • @johnpijano4786
      @johnpijano4786 11 месяцев назад

      @@HardstylePete Eh....... Look up in google "effects of Land Clearance in Georgian UK" and you'll know how the life of the agricultural tenant worker was not because of the nature of agricultural work in of itself.

    • @katjathefranknfurter2374
      @katjathefranknfurter2374 10 месяцев назад +12

      I remember visiting Quarry Bank Mills and Cadbury in the 1980ies on an university excursion from Germany. Places like this were actually so much better from factories and living and working conditions in the cities. You were lucky to survive until 30 years of age - that is if you reached adulthood at all. Like you said, child mortality was abhorrendly high and children were regarded as small adults who had to bring their share for the family to survive.
      Here at least you had the chance to grow your own vegetables and breathe some fresh air once outside work. Villages nearby provided work for all sorts of trades such as shoemakers, dairymen or even printers. So your children might have the chance to learn reading and writing and even had the possibility to end up in workplaces outside the factory and outside of the cities terror.
      These were regarded as model villages under the new concept of providing better living conditions for your workers so that you as an owner could profit from their health. Owners were regarded as very socially responsible and charitable and inhabitants were proud to live there. And yes, what we see today is a very polished version of what people would have experienced then. But they were actually a better place to live in than what millions of workers elsewhere had to endure.
      That picture of the 6 workmen standing in the alley with their work tools is still hanging on my walls in a golden frame. They look so proud of who and what they were.
      We are so lucky to live in today's conditions... Don't we ever forget that.

    • @Sarge92
      @Sarge92 8 месяцев назад

      yeah but this current batch of kids are beyond belief
      im not advocating for beating kids HUGE NO NO but i was astounded to learn that in my newphews school (hes 4) they cannot and will not touch the kids
      which sounds reasonable to not hit or otherwise mess with the kids but no.... i mean they will not touch them at all if that kids going psycho they wont try to controll them if they want that kid to go somewhere or leave the classroom they will negotiate there exit they will not under any circumstances lay a finger on them
      youd think i was lying but my newpher ran out the front school doors towards the main road a thankfully reasonable minded teacher gave chase and picked him up before he ran into the road
      my sister was called into school that day where a account of the events was given and a verry profound and emphatic apology given ... for picking him up saving his life saying they dont usualy pickup the children but blah blah blah
      she and i were astonished they actually thought they was in the wrong for trying to controll a rambunctios child using simply methods that cause no harm to the kid i dont want them slapping or hitting my nephew but when you cant even take him by the hand and pull him out the class room or pick him up to save his life the world has really gone mad
      and before you think it nope im not from the generation of being beaten im only 32 and being sent out of class be it dragged out or leaving of your own volition and getting detention and time out was plenty good enough
      apparently my newphew does get timeout... when hes willing to agree to do it if he disagrees the school officially runs out of ideas and either calls my sister or just begins bribing him and negotiating
      plan a isnt the worst idea but plan b is the most stupid asinine idea ever i thought theese teachers are supposed to be trained in being around kids and they think bribery and negotiation is a good long term plan?
      we are definatly way too soft on kids and need to bring back boundries and respect and some of those things but again not via brutal archaic means just give the teachers the toools and power to actually control the kids

    • @이이-n4z8y
      @이이-n4z8y 7 месяцев назад +2

      Why did you comment? Oh yea, to make up things no one said to get on a high horse.

  • @marcdavis4509
    @marcdavis4509 Год назад +564

    That’s insane that a nine year old child could enter into a legal contact for any length of time much less a ten year term.

    • @stc3145
      @stc3145 Год назад +59

      Still happens today in countries like Pakistan and India among others

    • @losmosquitos1108
      @losmosquitos1108 Год назад +97

      Yes, slavery has nothing to do with black people. It happened in all cultures in all ages around the globe: Old Egypt, Romans, Greeks, christian Europe, African tribes under themselves, American Natives. It‘s always the same, the strong one or victor rules the weak one. What we know and are being thaught as slavery was only one single kind of the muslimic-christian enterprise to raid African tribes. But by definition it has nothing to do with race, sex, age, nationality… it comes in so many forms, some rather not so obvious.

    • @harrybruijs2614
      @harrybruijs2614 Год назад +12

      It was not the child but his caretakers, that took out the contract. As you heard many came from the work house.

    • @lentoturmahub8214
      @lentoturmahub8214 Год назад +35

      ​@@MomentsInTrading wage slavery is still slavery.

    • @barneypaws4883
      @barneypaws4883 Год назад +14

      The descendants of these poor children should be compensated for all those years of slavery forced upon them

  • @MissyL12789
    @MissyL12789 Год назад +71

    Heartbreaking hearing how tough their life was. My Gtx3 grandmother was born in a workhouse so it's interesting hearing about life in Victorian period.

  • @inipin510
    @inipin510 10 месяцев назад +121

    A 9 year old child working 12 to 14 hours a day is insane !!! And it is still happening in some countries these days😑

    • @deealex1402
      @deealex1402 8 месяцев назад +4

      the kids today dont know how good they have it, they are all spoiled.

    • @miaomiaou_
      @miaomiaou_ 6 месяцев назад +17

      @@deealex1402 nah they just aren’t being worked to the bone and squeezed out for every drop of labor they can provide. I hope one day every child can enjoy their youth instead of toiling away for the man

    • @JulesCreativityPersonified
      @JulesCreativityPersonified 6 месяцев назад

      @@deealex1402 🤣🤣

    • @syewilliams2372
      @syewilliams2372 5 месяцев назад +2

      It would still happen here if the government could get away with it- society can be judged on how we treat the poor young sick etc and we are better than some but we aren’t goods at all

    • @Naturally2Sexy
      @Naturally2Sexy 2 месяца назад

      I bet parenting had to be easier overall. No way those kids had any excess energy to sprint around the house breaking things and getting into trouble/talking back

  • @helenamcginty4920
    @helenamcginty4920 6 месяцев назад +16

    One lady, 92 in 1982, had grown up the eldest of 13 children. I met her when she was a patient on the hospital ward where I worked. She lived near Pendle, Lancashire. From 9 they worked part time in the mill so were up at 5am as they had a 10 mile walk over the hill to school. Then in the afternoon they had 6 hours work at the mill. While other kids worked 6 hours in the mornings and went to school in the afternoon. Then they had Sunday school in case they had time to enjoy themselves.
    She was a happy cheery lady but had not enjoyed her poverty ridden childhood.

  • @jetsons101
    @jetsons101 Год назад +338

    Many people today look at the past through "Rose Colored" glasses. Ah, the good old days, the good old days weren't always that good. Learn history so we don't repeat the mistakes of the past. Thanks for posting.......

    • @harrybruijs2614
      @harrybruijs2614 Год назад +21

      The factory owners in the video belonged to the better ones.
      To say it bluntly the slaves were often treated better then the factory workers.
      Slaves had an economic worth, factory workers were only regarded as a costfactor.

    • @ruadoy
      @ruadoy Год назад +19

      We have a good concept in Ireland - we are not nostalgic for the past as our past was fairly sh*t.

    • @jetsons101
      @jetsons101 Год назад +7

      @@ruadoy Ireland and the Irish people are outstanding but, wish you kept joe biden there somehow........

    • @glenchapman3899
      @glenchapman3899 Год назад +1

      @@ruadoy I think depends where you thought you would be on the social ladder. Upper class are always going to do well. Workers and farmers, not so much

    • @-----REDACTED-----
      @-----REDACTED----- Год назад +14

      Most of these people delude themselves by believing they’d not be lower class…

  • @struggling5432
    @struggling5432 Год назад +51

    Its crazy i myself work in a factory and i feel so connected to hear these stories clearly it wasnt the same at all but it’s definitely interesting to hear how far we have developed i love my job but i definitely wouldn’t have loved it back then

  • @NavyDood21
    @NavyDood21 9 месяцев назад +25

    I know for a fact I could not have survived a Victorian workers life. I can't even survive in this much easier modern life properly!

  • @caravanstuff2827
    @caravanstuff2827 Месяц назад +1

    I vividly remember a documentary about early victorian era living conditions of the poorest in London..one thing that hit me was to avoid freezing to death they would sleep standing in a crowded room with a fire place hanging from straps (like on the tube) that were attached to steel rods fixed to the roof beans..we don't realize how good we have it in 2024!!!.❤️🙏🇬🇧

  • @YDuskyCricket
    @YDuskyCricket Год назад +6

    Another immersive tale!! Thank-you!! Having the opportunity to walk in history's footsteps definitely allows one to have their eyes opened.

  • @hyperfocus4866
    @hyperfocus4866 Год назад +80

    Its amazing to think how the working class has been treated throughout history.

    • @laurencezemlick1979
      @laurencezemlick1979 10 месяцев назад

      Been treated by whom?

    • @patriciagriffith7402
      @patriciagriffith7402 10 месяцев назад +7

      @@laurencezemlick1979the controllers

    • @scouttyra
      @scouttyra 10 месяцев назад +12

      Makes you really appreciate unions!

    • @hyperfocus4866
      @hyperfocus4866 10 месяцев назад +4

      @@scouttyra They too can be corrupted.

    • @hyperfocus4866
      @hyperfocus4866 10 месяцев назад +3

      @@laurencezemlick1979 Those we give power to. It's a self serving class devoid of empathy, the cage of "freedom" to be more productive for their wheels of machinery.

  • @Staticjokes
    @Staticjokes Год назад +43

    Brilliant video, incredibly interesting & well made. Hope this series continues on.

    • @HistoryHit
      @HistoryHit  Год назад +7

      We really appreciate this!

  • @old.not.too.grumpy.
    @old.not.too.grumpy. Год назад +39

    My parent's house was once a barn that had been converted into 3 houses that became derelict, subsequently being converted into one house. Three of us lived the house.
    In the 1891 census 38 people lived in the 3 houses. With one outside privy and water from a well.

  • @lifeschool
    @lifeschool Год назад +110

    My Great Great grandparents worked in the mills of Padiham in Lancashire. The mill was very busy and noisy, but only in so much as a modern rock concert, and not deafening.
    Their main issue was the slums, cess pits, disease, and general filth of having to work dawn till dusk, and come home and have no strength to improve the home, only to put a rag in the wall to stop the wind running through the cracks. Ticks, cotton fibres and coal dust. Dysentery, typhoid and TB. No NHS, no dentists, or even a single aspirin tablet. Only week-old bread and dripping.

    • @cocochocookiedough
      @cocochocookiedough Год назад +4

      💔

    • @geoffpriestley7310
      @geoffpriestley7310 Год назад +7

      I grew up in the back to back houses in bradford one room up stairs one down, outside toilet and a big sink (cold water only) at the top of cellar steps

    • @shicruisin7004
      @shicruisin7004 6 месяцев назад

      Whats an asparagine tablet? Did you mean, aspirin? For pain?

    • @lifeschool
      @lifeschool 6 месяцев назад

      @@shicruisin7004 - Yeah, and anti-bioics too.

  • @ThePolaroid669
    @ThePolaroid669 Год назад +78

    Yet another awesome video from Luke and Louee! Thanks so much! You guys hit it out of the park every time! Can never get enough of these!

  • @PokhrajRoy.
    @PokhrajRoy. Год назад +34

    What an interesting series this is. Keep up the good work 👏🏽

  • @demoneIephant
    @demoneIephant 10 месяцев назад +6

    Watching these videos it is mad how messed up humanity has been, makes me think about how mad it is how far we've come but how far we still have to go

  • @54mgtf22
    @54mgtf22 Год назад +56

    So if you worked in a mill, the mill owner basically owned you.
    Love your work 👍

    • @nickmiller76
      @nickmiller76 Год назад

      @@tommorowhill You don't need all those capitals.

    • @soimsha.
      @soimsha. 9 месяцев назад +3

      Slavery in a different font

  • @sawahtb
    @sawahtb Год назад +56

    My family (ancestors) were from that region of England, and left for America when the Industrial Revolution started. They made their way to Texas and raised sheep. Huge family, I have hundreds of cousins, know only a few. Some got rich but most just had average lives, military careers, dairy farmers, etc. I think they saw factory work as hell on earth.

    • @bunk95
      @bunk95 10 месяцев назад

      That might be a Mexican trench rn. They made you think youre not a Soviet style [citizen] as well? Rifle/no rifle?

    • @rambi1072
      @rambi1072 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@bunk95 What are you even saying?

  • @Dabski97
    @Dabski97 Год назад +20

    I love this channel, I get so excited when I see there’s a new one out, because I know I’m going to learn something new every time 🙏🔥

    • @HistoryHit
      @HistoryHit  Год назад +2

      Happy to hear that!

    • @jamesbond4810
      @jamesbond4810 Год назад

      ​@@HistoryHit Why do I think these are stock videos from BBC documentaries ?

  • @shaunbishop1416
    @shaunbishop1416 Год назад +10

    I will subscribe, the efforts put it are worth every minute. My son will be watching and learning. Great presentation too!

  • @georgiafrye2815
    @georgiafrye2815 Год назад +29

    Slave labor grew and picked the cotton which was shipped overseas, then Child Slave labor in the mills to process and weave the cotton.

    • @walterkronkitesleftshoe6684
      @walterkronkitesleftshoe6684 Год назад

      The exploitation has NEVER been "white" exploiting "black", but "rich" exploiting "poor". Look at India and the "Raj". Who benefitted? The British elites and the Indian Mughals and Maharajas. Who paid the heavy cost? The Indian underclasses and the British working classes. "rich" exploiting "poor".

    • @이이-n4z8y
      @이이-n4z8y 7 месяцев назад +1

      Hahahahaha, nonsense. Slavery was only around for a couple of years at the beginning of the Victorian Era. Also, England had it's own cotton sources. Learn history before posting.

    • @miaomiaou_
      @miaomiaou_ 6 месяцев назад +2

      Yup exploitation makes it super profitable

    • @이이-n4z8y
      @이이-n4z8y 6 месяцев назад

      Children weren't slaves, they were paid

    • @XXBASSOON1STXX
      @XXBASSOON1STXX 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@이이-n4z8y They lived where they worked and weren't allowed to leave under threat of punishment. You cannot be fucking serious.

  • @williamrobinson7435
    @williamrobinson7435 Год назад +3

    Luke and Louee make valiant attempts at the accents from oop north there at the end, and apart from that this is practically flawless as a popular history film. Most engaging and informative. I enjoyed this! 🌟🌟👍👍

  • @MegaJacko4
    @MegaJacko4 Год назад +285

    My 4x great grandfather was a wealthy workhouse mill owner in scotland. Apparently he was a very kind man and went out if his way to make sure his employees where looked after. He didnt tolerate bullying by the managment and paid everyone a fair wage. He was probably one of the few mill owners who cared. He was so well loved by his employees that after he died, they had a modest but beautiful memorium dedicated to him, with an encription of how well he treated them when he was alive. Its very heartwarming

    • @gabrielavazquez1945
      @gabrielavazquez1945 Год назад +130

      Well, that's what you were told, anyway.

    • @Whydoyoucare1437
      @Whydoyoucare1437 Год назад +15

      😂😂😂

    • @misscoffeebeans
      @misscoffeebeans Год назад +53

      I’m sure he was a very lovely slave owner.

    • @MegaJacko4
      @MegaJacko4 Год назад +33

      @gabrielavazquez1945 I love it when people act smart but are actually as stupid as a chocolate fire canister. I researched my family history and found records of written accounts from his employees. I also saw his memorium. No one told me shit.

    • @mikelittlefair8359
      @mikelittlefair8359 Год назад +29

      He still made his money off the backs and labour of others - if he truly cared he would have formed a cooperative where all his workers would have benefited and his wealth would have been shared….

  • @Ali_T_London
    @Ali_T_London Год назад +11

    Loving this format! Keep it up please.

  • @danieljourdain7824
    @danieljourdain7824 Год назад +18

    They keep calling the children workers, but they were slaves.

  • @lisamoore6804
    @lisamoore6804 Год назад +4

    Watching this makes you really appreciate how good we have it now.

    • @davidgill8996
      @davidgill8996 Год назад

      Not for long

    • @LIJXFVKINBVY
      @LIJXFVKINBVY Год назад

      Tories who break the law and get away with it, less human rights, retirement age going up, cost of living going up, less wages, more hours to work, yep that is much better than back then.

    • @cherylT321
      @cherylT321 Год назад +2

      How good some of us have it now. There are countries out there where workers are still treated as permanent indentured servants, whose children go on to work in slavery to pay off debts that will never be paid off!

    • @Naturally2Sexy
      @Naturally2Sexy 2 месяца назад

      ​@@davidgill8996Feel free to send me some cash if you're struggling to appreciate what you have 😂

  • @desireepetitdemurat8660
    @desireepetitdemurat8660 Год назад +4

    I see that you useLewis Hine’s pictures to illustrate your documentaries, the impact of his images giving dignity to the children that worked in this inhuman conditions has always amazed me.

  • @curtisbolen2076
    @curtisbolen2076 Год назад +30

    Wow I don't think a lot of people realize how fortunate we are.

    • @mchlle94
      @mchlle94 Год назад +11

      Unfortunately, a lot of people are still working in dire conditions, and everyone is still forced to work for capitalists for most of their life

    • @francishandscomb8108
      @francishandscomb8108 Год назад

      @@mchlle94Amazon is a prime example no pun intended they treat people like bots

    • @calebm9000
      @calebm9000 8 месяцев назад

      I like how working conditions and quality of life have improved dramatically yet people still pretend it’s as bad as antiquity to own the “capitalists.”

  • @heathermurray9939
    @heathermurray9939 Год назад +3

    I live in Carlisle Cumbria & my house is built on a old mill grounds & the mill is apartments, Robert Ferguson was the owner he built a school in our village for the mill worker's children. The primary school is still open & it can't be sold as it was gifted to the village.

  • @DJL78
    @DJL78 Год назад +3

    The Dynamic Duo is back! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

  • @Elainerulesutube
    @Elainerulesutube Год назад +17

    I would've hated to live in the era of Queen Victoria.

  • @neiljosephbennett9119
    @neiljosephbennett9119 Год назад +18

    I'm only 58, but my grandparents (whom I never knew because my parents emigrated) were Victorian Brummies. Must have been really tough. Wish I could have listened to their tales of growing up.

    • @talex1625
      @talex1625 11 месяцев назад

      I'm so sorry that you never knew your grandparents. That's a real loss, both to you and to them also.

  • @ReginaRegenbogn
    @ReginaRegenbogn Год назад +19

    When shown the girl's room, I wondered how they handled getting their periods. I guess that would have been rather late because they were working hard, but eventually that would become an issue.

    • @methodmadness7508
      @methodmadness7508 Год назад +3

      Like all women did they would use a rag it wouldn't of been much of an issue at all tbh work ethic back then was stronger no complaining cos no one had the time or energy to listen too busy surviving

    • @Kubulek17
      @Kubulek17 Год назад +23

      @@methodmadness7508I’m not sure work ethic is a concern when you’re a slave. You’re concerned with not getting punished more like

    • @methodmadness7508
      @methodmadness7508 Год назад +1

      @@Kubulek17 if you had read my comment correctly you would have realised this is what i meant

    • @happycook6737
      @happycook6737 Год назад +3

      Initial onset of menstruation can be delayed if a girl is extremely thin or eats few animal products.

    • @ginmar8134
      @ginmar8134 3 месяца назад

      The onset of menstruation came later than it does today, as late as 18.

  • @romanr.3827
    @romanr.3827 8 месяцев назад +2

    Wow. Talk about being caught between a rock and hard place.
    You’re a kid of that era and have only two choices; Starve or die from disease on the streets, or become company property. Insane.

    • @Blueboyb95
      @Blueboyb95 8 месяцев назад

      should bring it back because the kids need to make money and because I am not paying for them

  • @purplebutterfly7257
    @purplebutterfly7257 Год назад +26

    Very interesting but I feel really bad for those kids and I wonder if the mill owners wife felt a tinge of guilt for those young children.

    • @gmoddude12
      @gmoddude12 Год назад +10

      considering the times i doubt there was even a shred of it
      to them this was just as normal as the idea of child labor isnt today
      they would most likely have seen nothing wrong with it

    • @purplebutterfly7257
      @purplebutterfly7257 Год назад

      @@gmoddude12 😢

    • @cherylT321
      @cherylT321 Год назад

      I doubt it! It’s just like today with the super rich controlling everything and paying the peons next to nothing because profits are always more important to them than people!

    • @blueprairiedog
      @blueprairiedog 7 месяцев назад

      But not him? Men should be human too.

  • @georgebrown4700
    @georgebrown4700 Год назад +5

    Another great episode! Looking forward to more

  • @robashley8216
    @robashley8216 Год назад +31

    I can attest that holding anything out in that T pose even if its something light, is an absolute arm burner. Our instructors used to have us do that in basic all the time

    • @KumaBean
      @KumaBean Год назад +1

      If we messed about in the Army Cadets we would sometimes be placed in the motorbike position; Back straight against the wall, with knees bent forward at 90 ° and arms stretched out straight and level in front, that hurt after a while, lol 🍻

    • @WifeMamaArtist
      @WifeMamaArtist Год назад +6

      It's the context that matters. 9yo kids made to sit and study after being exhausted from a 12hr work day plus chores. No wonder they sometimes played up or couldn't concentrate... THAT is why the exercise was a punishment!

  • @craigmergenthal9291
    @craigmergenthal9291 Год назад +51

    The upstairs worker housing seemed much brighter, much more roomy than the dark brick cellar. Upstairs didn't seem to bad while the cellar unit seems cold and damp. I wonder if some sort of hierarchy existed to determine who stayed upstairs vs the cellar, or maybe just good old fashioned rent prices.

    • @thatontariofarmer
      @thatontariofarmer Год назад +13

      The Senior, more talented/experienced workers probably got the nicer lodgings.

  • @survivehistory
    @survivehistory Год назад +2

    Fantastic series lads!!

  • @Sharon-marie
    @Sharon-marie Год назад +3

    Absolutely brilliant video i love english history i was actually working in a mill in the 1980s it had all the original features and many stories from women who had worked there since leaving school at 14 years of age .

  • @mrs.g.9816
    @mrs.g.9816 Год назад +16

    Nothing like being treated like a robot. I wonder - if TB and other illnesses caused by too much work didn't wipe children out, was there a lot of mental illness carried over into adulthood? Those poor kids were denied rest, play and love. That would drive anyone clean around the bend.

    • @Faceplay2
      @Faceplay2 Год назад +3

      Honestly, I don’t think there’d be too much mental illness. People nowadays are a bunch of complainers, and each generation has constantly had it easier than the last generation. If you took an average American who is born in the 1920s and fight in World War II. Versus an average American, who is born. In 2000. The WW2 men without class the modern man and just about every physical attribute. But they had for harder childhoods, but it’s the only thing they would’ve known. It’s the same thing for these kids on the other hand of the crazy work schedule they would’ve built very tight bonds with each other the type of bond they typically only build working in the military or going through a law enforcement academy. I’m not saying I would want to live their life but if it’s all you know and your friends and family are there I don’t think most people there had a lot of mental issues. As far as diseases like tuberculosis, that would’ve been common of the time wherever you lived I imagine it would actually be less. They are because these mills are typically not located in the major cities, so less density of people and strangers traveling

    • @scouttyra
      @scouttyra 10 месяцев назад +4

      ​@@Faceplay2and a lot of people who fought in WW2 got PTSD (although it wasn't called that at the time.)

    • @Faceplay2
      @Faceplay2 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@scouttyra doesn’t matter people are weak compared to 80 years ago.

    • @scouttyra
      @scouttyra 10 месяцев назад +2

      @@Faceplay2 and what does it matter unless you are out to judge people?

    • @scouttyra
      @scouttyra 10 месяцев назад +3

      @@Faceplay2 and also, "kids/the youth today" complaints are literally ancient.

  • @Shelleybaker-p9r
    @Shelleybaker-p9r Год назад +8

    I think that most modern employers would pay their staff peanuts if they could get away with it. That is why we have the minimum wage. I am not saying that it's as bad now as it was then. But most employers don't care about their staff.

    • @scouttyra
      @scouttyra 10 месяцев назад +2

      And also why unions are so important.

    • @1marcelfilms
      @1marcelfilms 7 месяцев назад +2

      Of course. Theres always a needy sucker willing to work for less.

  • @terryelks-op3jk
    @terryelks-op3jk 9 месяцев назад +2

    This is why Friendly Society started like the 'Oddfellows ' that helped people in 1810 when they were expected to work till they dropped with no Social Services and they are still helping people now!!

  • @reyatha3526
    @reyatha3526 Год назад +12

    10:42 is definitely not propaganda for the children or anything. Let's make sure to keep the wealth where it is.

  • @nickcoffey1
    @nickcoffey1 Год назад +1

    I'm exhausted just watching this, can't imagine being subjected to this kind of work/life balance.

  • @irenejohnston6802
    @irenejohnston6802 Год назад +8

    Same for immigrants in US. Pennsylvania coal mines. Company money bought goods at the company store.

    • @scouttyra
      @scouttyra 10 месяцев назад +1

      Scrip. And some people want to bring it back.

  • @chantalsscaleisafibber
    @chantalsscaleisafibber Год назад +7

    I have been to Quarry Bank many times.If the children were left handed they were sent to face the wall holding their arm up to the side of their bodies and keep it there as they thought this would stop them from being left handed which was heavily frowned upon.
    There was a TV show called The Mill I think based and filmed at Quarry Bank Mill in Styal Cheshire.

    • @HistoryHit
      @HistoryHit  Год назад +1

      That's right!

    • @nicolad8822
      @nicolad8822 Год назад +5

      In the late 60s a vicious dinner lady would slap the back of my wrist with a spoon to stop me using my left hand. My knife and fork together I used the “right” way but not when I had just one implement. My Mum who was a Primary School teacher still had her 40s/50s text book from Teacher Training College which stated left handed children were generally less intelligent than right handed! No wonder if it led to being scolded at school. “Interesting” pics of childhood diseases and conditions too.

    • @chantalsscaleisafibber
      @chantalsscaleisafibber Год назад +3

      @@nicolad8822 OMG that's incredible that even a text book said left handed kids are less intelligent.Last time I went to quarry Bank the lady in the classroom asked if anyone was left handed and I was the only one in the room and she sent me to face the room and keep my arm lifted to the side of me and it was so painful and she said if the child dropped their arm then they were punished with 📏 slaps across the hand and other punishments. My mom said that left handed kids in her class at school would be punished the same way and that was in the late1940's+early 50's.I play sports like 🎾 🏸 and 🏏 right handed and I will cut things up use ✂️ with my right hand and use my right hand to use a fork but I have to use my left hand to use a 🥄.I even use chop sticks 🥢with my right hand.I was playing out with the local hoodlum of the neighborhood when I was5&my dad was off work as his car was getting fixed and my mom was a hairdresser and she used to do a few people's hair in a room we had built onto the back of our house and she was working doing a nurse's hair and I was five house's down a hill from my 🏡 &the ice cream truck came and there were about5kids we all got ice creams&ice lollies&when I was done I threw my stick down the drain in the street with the iron cover's with the gaps were you could see the water&hoodlum kid said he wanted my stick and I said well it's gone and he said I needed to get it back so he would hold the grid open&I was to reach inside& retrieve the stick so I said ok& he lifted the iron grid&I lay on the ground&reached down to get the stick and bam he dropped the grid on my arm but luckily I managed to lift my arm out but wasn't fast enough&was stuck with the grid pinning my left hand.All the kids bolted leaving me on the ground pinned by the iron grid and I wasn't strong enough to lift it off my hand with the free right hand.I was screaming and a teenage boy who in fact was one of Sean curly's brothers came out to see what the noise was and he ran over and lifted the grid off my hand and I bolted up the street literally holding my left hand and passed my sister who came to see what the noise was and was standing in the street paralyzed with fright at seeing me. (Sean Curly had like6or7 siblings and lived down the street from us when we were kids~he represented the UK in the Olympics playing hockey 🏑.As my dad's car was in the shop the customer of my mom's who was a nurse drove my dad and I to the hospital and I got there around4:30pm and at that time no one was qualified enough to deal with my injury so they had to wait till a Dr arrived from a city hospital30miles away&the Dr who came had just qualified as a Psychiatrist and I went into the operating theatre at11pm and was wheeled out at5am but they couldn't save my left thumb 👍 but I was so lucky as was very small in height and my whole body was almost down the grid and I could have lost any part of my left arm but was pinned by my left thumb. I spent about8months going back and forth to the hospital till it finally healed and had quite a few surgeries on the thumb.I was a nightmare kid and was constantly in the ER getting he'd sutures at least3times a year and all the staff knew me so well.When I had my daughter I went and apologized to my mom for all the hell I put her through with my injuries and constant hospital visits&admissions&must have put her through hell with worry at what I had done to myself and what the next injury would be.

  • @alvydasurbonas8913
    @alvydasurbonas8913 Год назад +7

    im surprised that nobody thought that making people work too much is not very efficient and considering injuries and accidents in work place. I guess such were the times.

    • @cherylT321
      @cherylT321 Год назад +3

      People were expendable…There was always someone else to take their place!

    • @1marcelfilms
      @1marcelfilms 7 месяцев назад

      @@cherylT321 But those new people have to be trained. And that takes time and effort....

    • @cherylT321
      @cherylT321 7 месяцев назад

      @@1marcelfilms Look at what’s going on now; corporations are treating people as expendable and firing people on mass. They don’t seem to care that getting new people in and training them will take time and money; after all, whoever takes their place will be paid less than who was there before and that’s their bottom line!

  • @kalsumakhatun5867
    @kalsumakhatun5867 8 месяцев назад

    This is what my dad did. He worked in the Mills for many years. I used to listen to his stories growing. It was hard work. Life was much more difficult for the poor.

  • @jamesnoonan7450
    @jamesnoonan7450 Год назад +4

    I loved part one. I can't wait for this part 🤞🤞

  • @poetmaggie1
    @poetmaggie1 10 месяцев назад +1

    It has been shown that living conditions in the past is more difficult than now, many people to day can not light a wood fire, make their own clothes, cook on wood or coal or even charcoal, wash their clothes the older ways, etc. A reenactment of Victorian days of a middle class family showed them to be exhausted after a week, but there was much more physical labor in the home than now.

    • @paden1865able
      @paden1865able 10 месяцев назад

      Makes me glad that my parents taught me those skills, they're quite useful.

  • @ShallowApple22
    @ShallowApple22 Год назад +10

    Subjects like this often make me wonder how barbaric and alien we will seem to our future descendants.
    How different will they be to us and how Will their ethics and morals differ from our own.

  • @VenusBijou
    @VenusBijou Год назад +101

    I'd love to see a documentary that did what this does for modern times. "And here we see the living conditions for Amazon factory workers, in stark contrast to that of it's owner, Jeff Bezos. While they have to be content with living in a single room in a shared house, here is just one of his many homes."

    • @TinFoilCat90
      @TinFoilCat90 10 месяцев назад +7

      That is nothing compared to being actual forced labor smh. What a ridiculous statement. We have so many opportunities in this country that those people never had.

    • @VenusBijou
      @VenusBijou 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@TinFoilCat90 we don't even live in the same country.

    • @JohnSmith-lk8cy
      @JohnSmith-lk8cy 10 месяцев назад

      Yep - me too. Many people in so called 'developed countries' think that being 'free' to work all day to be given money to survive is freedom. Many of us are just as enslaved as the kids in this film. We THINK we are free but try not working for a while i.e. no income and see how free you really are. We are not locked up but - even better for the masters is that we take care of ourselves now. Like self maintaining robots. They pay us - we use the money to pay for food and a roof over our head so we can work to make them millions and billions in some cases. Oh and we get a few weeks 'off' to keep us happy with something to look forward to called a holiday. Ha Ha. BRILLIANT SCAM! and even better hardly anyone is aware of it.

    • @scouttyra
      @scouttyra 10 месяцев назад +11

      ​@@TinFoilCat90if you don't have enough money saved up (because you haven't been able to between low wages, rising cost of living, etc) to go without work for a day, it can be extremely difficult to change jobs. If you are even able to find somewhere and they are willing to hire you.

    • @HaveCommonSense76
      @HaveCommonSense76 10 месяцев назад +1

      Not even close to the same thing and if they don’t like working there there’s thousands of different kinds of jobs.

  • @johngroll9186
    @johngroll9186 7 месяцев назад +11

    I often wonder how many mill workers choose suicide over working in the mill. Working to eat and eating to work is damn right depressing.

  • @sutty85
    @sutty85 Год назад +7

    Shameful really. Child slavery . Poor little mites. Born to work work to die... Disgusting time in history

    • @abandonedpterodactyl5484
      @abandonedpterodactyl5484 Год назад +2

      Not just history. Child labour and slavery are alive and well. It just got outsourced to places where first world countries don't have to see it.

  • @judymay9801
    @judymay9801 Год назад +1

    Thank you. That was so informative and accessible!

  • @BSG0005
    @BSG0005 11 месяцев назад +1

    What a great documentary! I really 💕 this channel!

  • @AlixMarx
    @AlixMarx Год назад +2

    I loved watching The Mill, which was about this exact mill and some of the child laborers. This was an interesting look into the era

    • @laurencea-b6027
      @laurencea-b6027 Год назад +1

      I agree, such a pity they cancelled the drama after the second series.

  • @soilofk
    @soilofk 2 месяца назад +1

    For those who wonder why Unions are important even today! Poor kids.

  • @alexkhavr
    @alexkhavr Год назад +27

    This is really great. Informative and honest. Not biased to one of the sides. You can literally see awful conditions of workers' life - but also compare it to even worse in the neighborhood. You can see the capitalist enjoying the profits - but also no luxury (if you know what luxury meant at these times - see J. Austin) and a lot of self-devotion and attempts to improve the things. Enormous job. Bravo!

    • @debbylou5729
      @debbylou5729 Год назад +2

      Just noticed you forgot the part where ‘the capitalist’ provided all of the supplies and all of the risk

    • @alexkhavr
      @alexkhavr Год назад +1

      @@debbylou5729 Should I have retold the whole story in one comment?

    • @anfearaerach
      @anfearaerach Год назад +2

      @@debbylou5729 the capitalist also reaped the means of production, you're due a read of das Kapital, a chara

    • @debbylou5729
      @debbylou5729 Год назад +1

      @@anfearaerach because the capitalist paid for the means of production. You want socialism? Get your buddies together and do it that way. The only reason communist countries didn’t starve or have proper essentials was because they began allowing people to sell their own products. You just need to read SOMETHING. Socialism is just another word for serfdom. Everything goes to the ‘lord’ and it’s distributed anyway that person sees fit. I feel so bad for you. Go to a library and read some uncensored history about the people of the time

  • @merobedas
    @merobedas Год назад +2

    Another great episode, thank you!

  • @bmac3093
    @bmac3093 Год назад +6

    Maybe closer to returning than we care to think !

  • @Fauxrising2022
    @Fauxrising2022 6 месяцев назад +1

    This is like prison and most like worse 😢 those kids were just looked as a dollar sign, despicable.. what gets me about Queen Victoria is she was painted as a moral person who was all about setting a good family standard, but her kingdom was so far from that. It’s hard to emphasize those who lived in a gilded cage when you have people living through pure hell 😢

  • @freakinfrugal5268
    @freakinfrugal5268 10 месяцев назад

    I love all of those cute little bridges.

  • @jaymeseifert7432
    @jaymeseifert7432 7 месяцев назад +1

    They did miss a little detail about the curved corners in the entry of the house. That wasn’t a show of wealth, rather it was because it was believed corners were where evil spirits dwelled. So it was common for Georgian era houses to have curved corners in the entry ways and in some houses the dining spaces to avoid evil spirits from dwelling in their homes.

  • @mohammedsaysrashid3587
    @mohammedsaysrashid3587 Год назад +1

    This is another awesome video from Luke and Louee... informative video

  • @Nidhoggrr
    @Nidhoggrr Год назад +1

    You see where the house is and then you see a very nice hill a very short walk away that would have made a much nicer spot that could be hidden with plants but give an over look of the plant and much more privacy.

  • @Hayswood34
    @Hayswood34 Год назад +5

    So sad 😢 those poor children

  • @Steve-gc5nt
    @Steve-gc5nt Год назад +27

    No wonder few lived beyond 45.

    • @sackme4377
      @sackme4377 8 месяцев назад

      Many people did. The "average age" exists mainly because of child mortality rates. If most people lived til 80, but you had a very high chold mortality rate, it would bring that number down significantly.

  • @angelayates2708
    @angelayates2708 10 месяцев назад +2

    Excellent historical information about the Mills in the North West, I've subscribed to you superb informative videos

    • @jamesbyrne9312
      @jamesbyrne9312 11 дней назад

      You should visit the mill. It's not a great documentary, just benefits from great national trust guides

  • @jamesbyrne9312
    @jamesbyrne9312 11 дней назад

    I love quarry bank. Special place from my childhood. Thank god only as a visitor.

  • @jj-if6it
    @jj-if6it Год назад

    Please never stop making these videos!

  • @qualiarob5951
    @qualiarob5951 Год назад +5

    Beautiful work, gentlemen of a very traumatic and turbulent time.

  • @PaulWillis-z8o
    @PaulWillis-z8o Год назад +4

    Brilliant,you guys are the best at this 😁😁😁

  • @sunshineflyer
    @sunshineflyer Год назад +9

    The thing I don’t like about these pop-history channels is that they gloss over the “uncomfortable” bit. They’ll tell us about the thick porridge, but not about the abuse the children faced daily.

    • @Faceplay2
      @Faceplay2 Год назад +7

      You do realize there’s a reason for that right believe it or not, but RUclips has stricter guidelines than television for some reason when it comes to historical projects.
      No joke if they were to talk in detail about abuse or other depressing things, their video would not be monetary, and it would also be restricted in the algorithm with who the video showing to.
      RUclips is not the Wild West RUclips of 2008.

  • @melodygreen5029
    @melodygreen5029 9 месяцев назад

    And yet all of these folks were able to thrive, have children, etc…. Without these folks none of us would be here. Instead of feeling sorry for them, why don’t we celebrate their fortitude, their strength and their courage! Human beings were built to be strong and robust! Stop feeling sorry for them and celebrate them!

    • @Naturally2Sexy
      @Naturally2Sexy 2 месяца назад

      That kind of minimalizes the immorality of continually having children to just deliver them into poverty. We need to be more considerate of what a child's life will look like before doing what it takes to have a child.

  • @Sabbra
    @Sabbra Год назад +3

    I love to read here all the comments praising that period in time

    • @user-gu9yq5sj7c
      @user-gu9yq5sj7c Год назад +1

      What kinds of comments? History Hit talks about good things from history too. Like art, inventions, and people fighting corruption.

  • @VintageRenewed
    @VintageRenewed Месяц назад

    I feel like something you should do is talk with some of the heritage railroads that run Victorian steam locomotives to do something on what it was like working for a Victorian railway

  • @vesavius
    @vesavius Год назад +13

    People need to remember that the idea of a childhood was not a culturally held idea for the working class of this age. Even before industrialisation children would be active workers for the family on the farm etc, if they were not moved off into working apprenticeships. A few years later the idea of the childhood being an innocent playful thing would start to emerge, but even then it was extremely short. Now people are 'children' until 18 (though in reality probably closer to 30 these days), but back then if you was not working you were a drain and a burnden. Everyone was expected to carry weight, no government handouts to stay at home then.
    Life in that village would be, IMO, one you would have been priviledged to enjoy at this time.

  • @barneypaws4883
    @barneypaws4883 Год назад +15

    Appalling treatment of children back then. Thank heavens that doesn't happen anymore, although in some parts of the world it probably does

    • @kimberleysmith818
      @kimberleysmith818 Год назад +7

      It absolutely does.

    • @anonmouse15
      @anonmouse15 Год назад +1

      Both as slave labour and military conscription.

    • @cherylT321
      @cherylT321 Год назад

      In some parts of the world, it definitely does!

    • @_Kyprioth_
      @_Kyprioth_ 6 месяцев назад

      Unfortunately, there are more slaves in the world today than there were before slavery was abolished in America.

  • @mwethereld
    @mwethereld Год назад +1

    @17:20 I never knew Victorian houses had fire EWIS systems! Way ahead of the time back then! :P

  • @creativechik
    @creativechik Год назад +1

    I enjoy history a bit. Especially seeing people kinda living it. Or actually seeing where some of the events took place.

  • @alekbeloff
    @alekbeloff Год назад +1

    oh it's like a tiny version of New Lanark. Nice they kept the authentic interiors

  • @abigailpip112
    @abigailpip112 Год назад +9

    It should be remembered that there was no such thing as "childhood" in those dayes. The children taken from the workhouse had an infiitely better life at the mill than they would have if they had been left in the workhouse. They were in the workhouse because their parents could not affor to raise them. I'm not saying that was a good thing, but it was a fact. With no birth control, there were very large families, no social welfare system meant that if you didn't work, you didn't eat. It was ordinary for children to work from a very young age, almost as soon as they could walk. chimney sweeps had a terrible life, boys went to sea as cabin boys at 9 years of age, girls started in service at 8. We have different standards these days mainly because birth control has given us smaller families.

  • @Deluxedracula
    @Deluxedracula 6 месяцев назад +1

    All this misery for the pride of one person….

  • @myroseaccount
    @myroseaccount Год назад +5

    The OWNERS and OLIGARCHS of today want a similar work force. Make no mistake our so called privileges we enjoy today were not GIFTS from above but won through long and often violent campaigns

  • @user-er4pg3ux9k
    @user-er4pg3ux9k Год назад

    Thanks, Liked it a lot. Keep up the great videos

  • @gaius100bc
    @gaius100bc Год назад +1

    beautifully made series

  • @lolsovs
    @lolsovs Год назад +2

    Man that curved door is slick...

  • @danielleoconnell5417
    @danielleoconnell5417 Год назад +2

    They need to put this in schools across the country and teach all kids English history like this I would love my son to learn this type of history it was how this country was made the bad and the good how the working class stood up for their rights and white kids was slaves out kids need to learns this to make them realise how lucky they are to live the lives they live

    • @CH-xq6if
      @CH-xq6if Год назад +4

      The industrial revolution is on the ks2 and 3 curriculum. The triangle trade is also on the ks3 curriculum. It's not about 'white kids was slaves too', it's about all children used to suffer, London in the 19th century wasn't monochrome, mate

  • @forgottenfurbabies3315
    @forgottenfurbabies3315 10 месяцев назад +1

    It’s insane how children were treated then!

  • @maksphoto78
    @maksphoto78 10 месяцев назад +1

    All in all, it was a fairly good deal. The alternative was starving in the countryside.

  • @bigtex4058
    @bigtex4058 Год назад +11

    Brutal.

  • @helenamcginty4920
    @helenamcginty4920 6 месяцев назад

    In Preston Harris museum there is (or was, ) a model of the Horrocks' mill and surrounding mill owned 2 up 2 down houses. There is audio of people who had worked and lived there.

  • @bellami86
    @bellami86 Год назад +3

    Now I'd like to know how was it like in Manchester

    • @anonUK
      @anonUK 7 месяцев назад

      Much, much worse. Quarry Bank Mill was paradise compared to most of the mills in inner Manchester.

  • @bobyjonsen
    @bobyjonsen 11 месяцев назад +1

    nine year old child agrees to be a slave for 10 years is just insane evil and despicable

    • @lauralake7430
      @lauralake7430 10 месяцев назад

      Their parents signed th papers. The kids had no say in it.

  • @buttercxpdraws8101
    @buttercxpdraws8101 9 месяцев назад +2

    Very important to support Unions!

  • @mchlle94
    @mchlle94 Год назад +3

    Unfortunately, a lot of people are still working in dire conditions, and everyone is still forced to work for capitalists for most of their life