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  • Опубликовано: 13 мар 2023
  • Sammy Hagar joins Mick Jones of Foreigner to talk about the legacy of the band's song "Feels Like the First Time" and recording with Led Zeppelin's Jimmy Page and John Paul Jones on Rock & Roll Road Trip!
    And later, Sammy and Mick band together on an electric rendition of "Dirty White Boy."
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  • @VIDEOHEREBOB
    @VIDEOHEREBOB Год назад +50

    Make no mistake about it. Lou's iconic voice and songwriting put Foreigner on the map. Glad he at least paid homage to Lou.

    • @stephenhensley5631
      @stephenhensley5631 Год назад +3

      He should ! Money might have been nice too, for Lou .

    • @jonbongjovi1869
      @jonbongjovi1869 Год назад +2

      Lou was special, but so were others in the band.
      The SONGS on those first few albums are FLAWLESS.

    • @VIDEOHEREBOB
      @VIDEOHEREBOB Год назад +1

      @@jonbongjovi1869 Not saying they weren't.

    • @waltersimmons946
      @waltersimmons946 Год назад +1

      @@jonbongjovi1869 Agreed 100% in full.

    • @juliespencer3581
      @juliespencer3581 Год назад +4

      Well I think Lou outshines Mick in so many ways, that Mick sheisted Lou out of jealousy & envy. It's sad Mick can't credit Lou enough for Foreigners' early success. But really, it just makes Mick look insecure & not right. He owes much of his band's success to Lou beginning WAY back in the 70s! So what it was Mick's original band. He should STILL credit Lou with the popularity he brought to Mick's band. It's so freaking obvious Lou's singing & personality, made Mick's band famous in the 70s & 80's. Lou really made Mick's band rock!!! MICK CLEARLY IS TOO INSECURE TO CREDIT LOU & OTHER ORIGINAL BAND MEMBERS FOR HOW WONDERFUL FOREIGNER WAS!!! (SORRY Mick). But Lou should also really let it go! Everyone already knows ALL the original members made Foreigner rock! Not just Mick!!!

  • @richardbayne7566
    @richardbayne7566 Год назад +19

    Mick needs to do the right thing and give Lou the credit he deserves and the royalties for I Want To Know What Love Is.

    • @TheErik249
      @TheErik249 Год назад +3

      Mick Jones wrote that song.
      The credits read...
      Words and music...
      Mick Jones.
      YES. Lou made that song what it became.
      But in the music business, publishing rights are everything.
      Jones has been in the business actively since 1961.
      It's A business.
      It's not a charity.
      Lou Gramm wasn't smart with his money.
      That's NOT Mick's fault.
      The music business is full of stories about people who became famous and then blew it all because of excess.
      Lou Gramm is one of those people.
      People like Mick Jones and Jimmy Page knew early on that it is a business.
      Publishing rights and producing credits are the way to become successful.
      Sammy Hagar also owns a lot of his Publishing rights.
      Sammy didn't let the party kill his career. He was smart.
      That's why he is still around, and he is still smiling.

    • @waltersimmons946
      @waltersimmons946 2 месяца назад +1

      ​@TheErik249 Lou got NO MONEY for I WANT TO KNOW WHAT LOVE IS. It was Mick who introduced Lou to cocaine and other drugs . Also nobody in Foreigner got bad press for being caught with drugs or getting into trouble in public bringing any scandals on the band since you mentioned excess.

  • @gregbrockway9913
    @gregbrockway9913 Год назад +16

    Lou IS Foreigner!!!

  • @robertdiehl1281
    @robertdiehl1281 Год назад +22

    Gotta love Sammy Hagar…still rock and roll relevant and keepn the sound alive.

  • @severinlourenco8355
    @severinlourenco8355 Год назад +17

    Foreigner, great songs from the 70s and 80s, still rocking 😎.

  • @waltersimmons946
    @waltersimmons946 Год назад +14

    Lou cowrote a lot of those songs. I notice Mick always says" I ".

  • @brianmankus6133
    @brianmankus6133 Год назад +6

    Lou Gramm is one of my favorite singers. I gotta say though, Sammy’s voice to this song sounds awesome!!

  • @superbug1977
    @superbug1977 Год назад +13

    I was a kid in the early 70s and I swear Sammy sounded then as he sounds now. How is this possible? He is amazing.

    • @Jim-zt1hl
      @Jim-zt1hl Год назад +1

      No he doesn't......

    • @lindahuff8976
      @lindahuff8976 4 месяца назад

      He does, because he CAN SING, something that David Lee never could.

  • @chipgalloway8770
    @chipgalloway8770 Год назад +8

    Sammy, never been another like you! Man, I can see myself back in the 70’s cruising through Eastland Mall, listening to this stuff! Thanks my friend!

  • @sashasavisha146
    @sashasavisha146 Год назад +12

    Everybody’s different based on what they like, but for me I’d probably put Mick Jones in my top 10. Dude plays for the song and he’s written some great ones.

  • @michaelhayes9773
    @michaelhayes9773 Год назад +11

    Been a fan of Sammy's since his Montrose days. Keep rocking Sammy

    • @waltersimmons946
      @waltersimmons946 Год назад +1

      Johnny Edwards who replaced Lou Gramm in 1990 and was the vocalist on Foreigners 1991 album UNUSUAL HEAT had previously fronted Montrose on the 1987 album MEAN . Small world even in Rock n Roll.

  • @Blimpus
    @Blimpus Год назад +26

    Kelly is great, but Mick and Lou were a force!

    • @schoonerchow
      @schoonerchow Год назад +6

      lou gramm is foreigner

    • @anyonecanseethis5787
      @anyonecanseethis5787 Год назад

      @@schoonerchow "Kelly" is Kelly Hansen, Foreigner's current singer and the guy in the video, singing "back up".

    • @waltersimmons946
      @waltersimmons946 Год назад +2

      @@anyonecanseethis5787 Everybody knows.

    • @badboyjca
      @badboyjca Год назад

      Kelly is nothing but Karaoke singer. Nothing original about him. Then douche won’t ever shut
      up and let a show breathe..

    • @youturd55
      @youturd55 9 месяцев назад +1

      Sammy Hagar have no trouble meshing into any rock band, the guy can sing without breaking into a sweat.

  • @michaelbattista1334
    @michaelbattista1334 Год назад +4

    Lou Gramm amazing voice!

  • @reddrockingeezer
    @reddrockingeezer Год назад +2

    Mick Jones deserved "the full band" experience. Imagine how great that would sound with the full band!

  • @richalderson6069
    @richalderson6069 Год назад +8

    He IS Foreigner Sammy? Nah, the band would never have got off the ground without Lou Gramm and the other great musos on the first three albums. These days, Foreigner is just some kind of tribute act that should have been retired years ago.

  • @pf100andahalf
    @pf100andahalf Год назад +4

    It's great that Mick Jones played the song knowing he wouldn't be able to finish the lead part. That shows humility and is the right kind of person to work with. An egomaniac would've never done that. He doesn't have to be a great lead player, just write good songs and be a good enough player to play his part.

  • @mikehuhman3249
    @mikehuhman3249 Год назад +4

    Ya did it sam 10 out of 10 on this one! I think that was the ultimate interview ! Thank you and keep it Rocking 🤘

  • @SLO4SpeedBump
    @SLO4SpeedBump Год назад +2

    I've been listening to both of these gentleman sense 1975. I never got a chance to see them live. They were always too far away and too expensive for my budget. But they are on my i-pod and I listen to it everyday when I walk. It's really good to see both of them doing good.

  • @CarrieKing-yp5yp
    @CarrieKing-yp5yp Год назад +2

    Feels Like The First Time is my favorite too! Makes my top 10 all time rock songs!

  • @rockingrandma4711
    @rockingrandma4711 Год назад +5

    Sorry guys, that doesn't cut it !!!😫

  • @katherinemartin4426
    @katherinemartin4426 Год назад +4

    Always a fan of you Sammy & your friends!♥️🌟👋

  • @jamesreding6336
    @jamesreding6336 Год назад +2

    Foreigner was my first concert ever with Molly hatchet it was great

  • @lorilori3
    @lorilori3 Год назад +10

    Absolutely love this❣️

  • @giftedplanksify
    @giftedplanksify Год назад +1

    The very first song I had ever danced to at a junior high school dance Feels like the first time ! I seen foreigner at CA jam that very same year! What a pleasure!! Thanks

  • @stevesrno873
    @stevesrno873 Год назад +2

    First concert I ever attended was in 1976 foreigner opened for Nazareth and ted Nugent great memory

  • @stacybailey1770
    @stacybailey1770 Год назад +4

    Go Sammy,sounds great.

  • @jasonbarnesbefuddledprofessor
    @jasonbarnesbefuddledprofessor Год назад +2

    Mick yeah You Did Something Right, Great Songs Man 🤘❤️🎸

  • @jasonvenesky2438
    @jasonvenesky2438 Год назад +4

    Damn! Sammy was made for that tune!

  • @The-Ford-Guy
    @The-Ford-Guy 4 месяца назад

    Sammy's still got it and at almost 70 no less! Nice work Red Rocker!

  • @anyonecanseethis5787
    @anyonecanseethis5787 Год назад

    AHHHHHHHH, LOVE Mick Jones!! and Foreigner!! Ian Lloyd, Spooky Tooth!! etc... Thanks for this!! Keep rocking guys!! YES and SAMMY TOO! Montrose, Red Rocker, Van Halen, great singer and guitarist, song writers, etc.. (followed Lou Gramm, ah, the good old days)

  • @robertarsenty5735
    @robertarsenty5735 Год назад +2

    Until this episode when it originally aired I didn't know Mick produced 5150

  • @TheSports50
    @TheSports50 11 месяцев назад +4

    Mik is so underrated as a great guitarist. One of the greatest. Plays from the heart and those chords and rips

    • @rvierra7235
      @rvierra7235 7 месяцев назад +1

      That is because he has screwed EVERYONE over, including his bandmates. He is a piece of trash.

  • @stevensmith6019
    @stevensmith6019 Год назад +2

    What a career! Wow!

  • @donovanlong648
    @donovanlong648 Год назад +1

    My favorite Foreigner song!

  • @yactabay
    @yactabay Год назад +1

    Used to live in Florida and worked at an airport. A passenger’s last name was Gagliardi. I said a former member of Foreigner had that uncommon last name. The guy’s eyes opened wide and said it was his cousin. I wasn’t sure if he was joking but as the conversation progressed I saw it was true. I asked why he left the band. I can’t remember if he got fired or quit but I remember him saying that Mick was a control freak.

    • @KENDZIification
      @KENDZIification Год назад +2

      Any band that wants success needs that one member who goes above and beyond. Call them control freaks or whatever. Mick Jones, Noel Gallagher, Tom Scholz, Kurt Cobain, etc. These guys write the big hits that elevate everyone’s pay in the band. And existence. Music is a f*cker of a business and to make it there better be an alpha present….or else.

    • @koontzman123
      @koontzman123 8 месяцев назад +1

      Watch some Lou Gramm interviews. Mick basically took all credit and all royalties. Real scum of the earth type.

  • @stringlocker
    @stringlocker Год назад +1

    Jukebox Hero was so good

  • @rbnhood39
    @rbnhood39 Год назад +2

    That Sammy is living large.

  • @robertmoutardier1003
    @robertmoutardier1003 Год назад +1

    Sammy should be there singer. Sounds great

  • @louischiodini7924
    @louischiodini7924 Год назад +2

    Sammy does just as hard!

  • @williammitchell1785
    @williammitchell1785 Год назад

    I love Sammy Hagar now too because he's taking all of his music and everything he knows his knowledge and just having fun now it's like if he feels like playing he will if he don't he doesn't

  • @petewoodroffemusic
    @petewoodroffemusic 5 месяцев назад

    Love Sammy! Great guy and one of the all time great Rock N Roll voices and performers!
    Pete Woodroffe Music UK

  • @jphickory522
    @jphickory522 Год назад +2

    Lou was the best and Sammy still sounds great

  • @MusicMotivator
    @MusicMotivator Год назад

    When I see a tobacco burst Paul I see Mick!! Legend. Hagar is,,,just beyond anyone! The vibe!!

  • @andywilkerson4617
    @andywilkerson4617 Год назад +1

    And that my friends is Rock and Roll History! Sammy & Mick J?

  • @adamhaynes7383
    @adamhaynes7383 Год назад +2

    Sam did it honor!

  • @jessekauffman3336
    @jessekauffman3336 Год назад +1

    Sammy still rocks out

  • @impalaman9707
    @impalaman9707 Год назад

    That "Dirty White Boy" riff is intense---and it can only be played rightly on a Gibson Les Paul!

  • @jr1479
    @jr1479 Год назад

    Two of my favorites. nuff said

  • @gerardaurieres-wk8jo
    @gerardaurieres-wk8jo 9 месяцев назад +1

    Ou ete vous vous avait pris la retraite le groupe et plus le meme quand vous ete pas la revenait vite vius nous manquee le groupe ses vous ont vous suis et ecoute depuis vos debut nous avont mon mari et moi et 74 ans et tout vos dique du debut un oeu de repos ok mais sans vous le groupe pert son charme les 2 chanteur aussi bon les 2 sauf que le jeune la parle trop et chante moins pour meublee mais une super voix mais parle trop doit plus chantee comme le premiers mais continuee ses que du bonheurs ❤😊 9:10

  • @81afitz
    @81afitz Год назад

    Great collab! Legnds!

  • @billtaylor3382
    @billtaylor3382 Год назад

    Love it!!!!!!!!!!

  • @re8746
    @re8746 Год назад +1

    What I would do to back to 1981-89.

  • @dopeymark
    @dopeymark Год назад

    I saw Foreigner open for the Stones in the late 70s early 80s. I think Peter Tosh was on the bill as well. People were booing Foreigner because they were so desperate to hear The Rolling Stones. Foreigner sounded great, but the entire crowd really didn't care.

  • @jamesmackinlay4477
    @jamesmackinlay4477 Год назад

    Hell ya i remember when Foreigner came on the scene always like them still have one or two of their albums.

  • @ANGUSYOUNGISMYGOD
    @ANGUSYOUNGISMYGOD Год назад +1

    Two uber talented individuals.

  • @silkestoecklein4627
    @silkestoecklein4627 25 дней назад

    Girls!!! & Boy!

  • @WarriorMigs24
    @WarriorMigs24 Год назад +1

    So good

  • @jamesreding6336
    @jamesreding6336 Год назад

    That should be in rock and roll hall of fame!!!!

  • @rockinracer
    @rockinracer Год назад

    Love ya, Red Rocker. Foreigner is at your level, close. Haah! I have loved rock since I was a baby. And I am just as big of a race fan ,CODA is a beautiful track for modern road coarse racing. Looked like fun, your wife seemed very calm. Great.
    Check out Dale Jr takes wife for ride at Bristol , hilarious.
    Keep on Rocking Love Ya , Muchacho.😂

  • @stratdx
    @stratdx Год назад +1

    Incredible

  • @charlesroberts8803
    @charlesroberts8803 Год назад

    Remember when Sammy worked at that pawn shop in Detroit and was on that TV show Hard Pawn.

  • @gregjaidee1491
    @gregjaidee1491 Год назад +4

    Without Lou now its just a Foreigner cover band!

    • @pgnandt
      @pgnandt Год назад

      No. Same music. Better version.

    • @koontzman123
      @koontzman123 8 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@pgnandtpffft....

  • @hybridjohn1
    @hybridjohn1 Год назад

    Did Sammy just say he's going to be 70? Holy flick!!!

    • @anakina1
      @anakina1 Год назад +1

      This was a couple of years ago too.

  • @Rick-rl9yk
    @Rick-rl9yk Год назад

    Sammy rocks!!!!!!!!!!

  • @danjryankee5
    @danjryankee5 Год назад +5

    Shame on you both for leaving out one of the best lyrics ever written …’I’ve been in trouble since I don’t know when, I’m in trouble now and I know somehow I’ll find trouble again…’

  • @chrispattee77
    @chrispattee77 Год назад

    Sammy if it were possible for Mick to produce and write a duet song for Klaus Mein (Scorpions) and Ronnie James Dio would be worth a listen...

  • @jerrykurpiewski5202
    @jerrykurpiewski5202 Год назад

    Mick jone's beach 😆 Az. Wabo Cabo Beach 😆

  • @ROKZLEON
    @ROKZLEON Год назад

    Damn! Sammy could totally front Foreigner. Never realized how close his range is to Lou's. No dis' on Kelly cause he's awesome too.

    • @dranderson6071
      @dranderson6071 Год назад +1

      Sammy's not in Lous league. Not even in the discussion

    • @youturd55
      @youturd55 9 месяцев назад

      ​@dranderson6071 have to say today's Sammy's vocals are better than today's Lou's.

    • @simonajugarih3620
      @simonajugarih3620 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@youturd55No,....

  • @TAROTKATREADINGS
    @TAROTKATREADINGS Месяц назад +1

    These two! As much as Mick Jones is a jerk for what he did to Gramm...I would love to see these two tour, or just maybe a one night stand somewhere. I'd travel to see that.

  • @gregbrockway9913
    @gregbrockway9913 Год назад +2

    Asking the wrong guy if you're easy to work with

    • @VIDEOHEREBOB
      @VIDEOHEREBOB Год назад +3

      Exactly Greg. Mick disrespected Lou many times.

    • @koontzman123
      @koontzman123 8 месяцев назад

      So true, just heard of his ruinous actions and attitudes. Total jerk. Too bad, I probably won't listen to Foreigner again without regarding his taint.

  • @christopherblessing3868
    @christopherblessing3868 4 месяца назад

    Rev it on the red line Sammy!

  • @kroggydog
    @kroggydog Год назад

    WOW, how fucken spectacular

  • @jerrykurpiewski5202
    @jerrykurpiewski5202 Год назад +2

    Mas tequila

  • @nathannewman799
    @nathannewman799 Год назад

    I once delivered a leather jacket to Mick Jones in NYC. His gf answered the door tho so i didnt get to see him.

  • @haganvonburger7930
    @haganvonburger7930 Месяц назад +1

    Mick jones is great but he should definitely give Lou gramm the credit he deserves, it is absolutely ridiculous that the lead singer of foreigner doesn’t get credit

  • @turn-n-burn1421
    @turn-n-burn1421 Месяц назад +1

    Of course, there is absolutely no substitute for Lou Gramm doing Foreigner music, but Sammy would have been far superior than who they chose.

  • @phillipmarlowe0525
    @phillipmarlowe0525 Год назад +1

    Sammy is awesome. Mick is a great musician but not like how he treated Ed Gagliardi, and the rest of the band.

  • @caledon66
    @caledon66 Год назад +5

    I disagree Sam. Lou Gramm was foreigner. Jmo

    • @stringlocker
      @stringlocker Год назад +3

      He was being gracious

    • @pgnandt
      @pgnandt Год назад

      Foreigner is the Mick Jones Band.

    • @stringlocker
      @stringlocker Год назад

      Why can't it be both

    • @caledon66
      @caledon66 Год назад +1

      @@stringlocker standing behind Lou Gramm, there was nothing that stood out. Anyone standing on stage with Lou Gramm could easily be replaced with decent cover band musicians. Hansen is right up there with some of the best karaoke performers I've seen.

    • @pgnandt
      @pgnandt Год назад

      @@caledon66 Karaoke performer with a better voice.

  • @JIF882
    @JIF882 Месяц назад +1

    Mick co-produced 5150.

  • @chuckwalters4759
    @chuckwalters4759 2 месяца назад +2

    Sam what about the fact that he screwed Lou out of ALOT of money? He should know what love is....

  • @MM1717mm
    @MM1717mm Год назад +2

    Sammy hagar looking , acting , sounding like a man 30 years younger than his actual age .... wtf dude ?? is it cuz u eat your veggies ??? Impressive Af

  • @TheGroo
    @TheGroo 6 месяцев назад

    When's the tour!!!??

  • @billohocinski4955
    @billohocinski4955 Год назад

    Same versing and structure as "There's Only One Way To Rock". I wonder who lifted from whom.

  • @pgnandt
    @pgnandt Год назад

    Mick hiring Kelly was a genius move.

  • @jsleeio
    @jsleeio Год назад

    you'd think with all this success, Sammy would be able to afford some sunscreen and a hat 🌞

    • @Steven-re3tx
      @Steven-re3tx Год назад

      or have fans with respect.
      OHWELL

    • @Steven-re3tx
      @Steven-re3tx Год назад

      or education,..or experience.
      ENJOY.

  • @doctorgarbonzo2525
    @doctorgarbonzo2525 Год назад +3

    Such a sham! Foreigner not in RRHOF?

    • @JCStorm76
      @JCStorm76 Год назад +3

      Absolutely should be

    • @mc-lp4zl
      @mc-lp4zl Год назад +2

      Sold 80million records with a ton of hits and some of their deep cuts have quality.
      Their first 4 albums were excellent.

  • @ArtRuttan-dt8xk
    @ArtRuttan-dt8xk 10 месяцев назад

    aààaaàaa

  • @timothylindman3721
    @timothylindman3721 Год назад +1

    Your right Lou Gramm made this guy. Royal screw job. Tell mick we all love Lou not this guy

  • @jamescampbell4661
    @jamescampbell4661 Год назад +3

    He should just shave his hair off.😢

  • @gerardaurieres-wk8jo
    @gerardaurieres-wk8jo 9 месяцев назад

    Quel sont votre gratte mais vous ete bon aussi mon mari a 7 gratte des finder lui des ville qui ont des sont d enfer aussi nous tous brancher musique a 74 ans mon fils lui de 53 ans ses saxo selmervous ete un bon guitariste top continuee mais desolee que le chanteur chante plus et moins parle nicole desole de le dire 16:53

  • @deandee8082
    @deandee8082 Год назад +2

    mutt lang, hands down

  • @raybassman7536
    @raybassman7536 Год назад

    Sammy can't drive no 55 at the end of this video.

  • @nancynancy8986
    @nancynancy8986 21 день назад +1

    Total disrespect to lou gramm!!!!

  • @edwoll
    @edwoll 4 месяца назад +2

    I wish Sammy did not interview this p o s. The way he treated Lou Gramm, who made his career, is pathetic.

  • @allenturin8847
    @allenturin8847 Месяц назад +1

    So many rubbish comments on these videos. Foreigner was Micks band. Period the end. He called Lou to audition for his band. He wrote the original songs for the first album and a majority of all Foreigner songs. He produced the albums. Lou is always crying the blues about how he was cheated. mick Jones made Lou Gramm not the other way around. SMH. Mick was also a wicked riff master. Foreigner was Mick Jones all the way.

    • @madeleinerathmell9030
      @madeleinerathmell9030 14 дней назад

      I just wish for a "Christian " Lou would shut up. What about forgiveness..... Mick has never given his side.

  • @dranderson6071
    @dranderson6071 Год назад +3

    Mick Jones absolutely destroyed that great band. His greed and insecurities got the best of him. The day after he passes away, the remaining real Foreigner get into the RRHOF.

    • @2v_5r84
      @2v_5r84 5 месяцев назад

      Why would that happen? He created the band

    • @dranderson6071
      @dranderson6071 5 месяцев назад

      @@2v_5r84 You obviously don’t know much about the group or Jones and I don’t have the patience to inform you. Merry Christmas

  • @wolftree3948
    @wolftree3948 Год назад +1

    sammy hagar's music with vh does not deserve much of any chance despite what 'he' thinks, my opinion

  • @RABSTRAINS
    @RABSTRAINS Год назад

    Sammy should be there singer, sounds similar to Lou !

  • @donniewilliams3806
    @donniewilliams3806 5 месяцев назад

    LOU was Great, in His Day i bought the cassettes, But it was his choice to leave the band ,mick Jones formed the band ,so lou left, mick did the right thing, found the perfect lead singer to carry on the great band . Now lou needs to quut talking with disrespect towards mick, Kelley, and the other band members. If he wants to have a band , let him. Sing the songs he wrote.

  • @Jim-zt1hl
    @Jim-zt1hl Год назад +1

    Sammy sucked with Van Halen.

    • @Millerman57
      @Millerman57 Год назад

      Harsh

    • @pgnandt
      @pgnandt Год назад +1

      Talented artist but also don't care for his voice. Montrose was pretty cool stuff.

    • @Jim-zt1hl
      @Jim-zt1hl Год назад +2

      @Paul Gnandt I liked Sammy with Montrose and solo but him with VH is really wimpy and BS compared to VH with DLR.

    • @MK356BC
      @MK356BC Год назад +1

      Sammy saved VH....they were dead when the clown DLR left them .

    • @Jim-zt1hl
      @Jim-zt1hl Год назад +1

      @M K DLR helped make them, VH didn't need saving. Sammy with VH was for Pussies...wimpy ass music, maybe that's what you like......