High End Hammer Comparison (Martinez, Stiletto) || Dr Decks
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- Опубликовано: 19 янв 2025
- Here's a comprehensive comparison of some high end hammers. We look at a couple of Martinez and Stiletto hammers and we even compare it to a hammer you could find at any home supply store.
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Csroenter 50 yrs. Stick built houses for 25 yrs all hand driven nails. Started with an Estwing I til it beat up my arm. Switched to a Vaughn 999, 20oz, wood handle, straight claw, smooth face. Tried a couple Titaniums went back to the Vaughn. I think now they cost under $50. I've seen the nail starter magnet on the Titaniums fall out and the side nail pull out is about the same as rolling the nail out with the claw. For me it's the Vaughn 999 all day
Made me laugh when you said “I bet one of you have this hammer or you dad or grandfather!” When my grandfather gave me my first tool kit when I was younger, that was the EXACT same hammer and had about the same wear on it! Still have it for the memories as he passed recently
Same bro, same. Got my first Estwing passed down as well. I think that's the only way you can actually get one! 😒
Sorry for the lose
Where did you find a curved claw Estwing? The only curve claw hammers at the big box store are the bargain bin hammers at the bottom. Lost track of my 28 oz. Estwing waffle face for about 20 years after we bought a Bostich N80C. My every day hammer is a curved claw 13 oz. Fiberglass handle Plumb. Even Plumb has now added a hook at the bottom of the grip which makes them annoyingly balky in and out of a loop.
Bloopers in the video is why I subscribed
Best video i have seen for comparing each of the top tier brands of hammers.
Thanks!
You had me at “if you breath air”
Use a 2x4 scrap sideways and use it for leverage for pulling nails. It will save your elbow.
I find when I’m on a site, or framing with framing hammers, If I’m ever needing to pull a bunch of nails I’m not using my hammer anyways, I’m using a small light nail puller, which I don’t notice on my belt anyways.
Damn you got me with breathing air.
I found my estwing framer in an alley behind my parents house when I was a kid still got it today. Used it yesterday.
Probably a murder weapon
Probably a murder weapon
7:18 - I like to think of my waffle marks as a calling card or signature, like carving your name in a desk back in grammar school
As the son of a concrete guy I grew up with long neck estwing. Handles don’t break and you use the neck of the handle to scrap forms. I now rock the Martinez and it’s superior to the stiletto for the main reason that you can buy every part of the hammer. Cant be said for the tibone. You can get new head faces but your hoses when you break a claw, handle or wear out the grip.
Thats why you buy a Martinez
Only this ill say as a pro for stiletto, is the balance. Martinez hammers are weight forward. Everything is in that heavy steel head. Can take a minute to get used to.
@@dylancharlton6512 ya it did take a day or two to get use too but its far more important for a hammer to be balanced front to back than head to handle, thats from a second generation farrier(blacksmith).
@@dylancharlton6512 have you tried the Martinez with the titanium bolt? It just came out and it really balances it out makes it lightweight almost like the stiletto.
I love my ti bone for concrete forming but the grip became loose after a couple months of everyday use. Couldn’t find the receipt so they won’t do anything about it. Been using it for months after, really want the Martinez m1 but the thought of buying another $250 hammer has me sweating lol.
Martinez developed the Stilettos design. I stick by Martinez Hammers having used all the hammers that you compared. Price point my first hammer was Estwing. My hammer now is Martinez M1
First, This channel is so underrated I watch you daily
Thank You!
Ive 2 estwing brick hammers. 20oz amd 22oz its mad the difference in just 2 ounces .
Great video!
To help slide the hammer into the Diamondback hammer holster, use some electrical tape on the butt end of the rubber handle of your hammer.
Occidental Boyz 😅
My hypertough wood handle smooth face is a favorite luxury hammer I own.
Well balanced, light weight, very durable as well. Yours hammers are alright I guess.
No offense, but don't hang your hammer anywhere unless you want to kill someone.
Why not ? there is lots more thing that can drop on you on most sites ... I do and quite often .. not into tool belts even though I own a couple ... and most carpenters hang their nail guns on joists and rafters these days ...
I’ve been a carpenter since 1988, I used a Estwing 22 oz hammer till 2005. I busted the handle finally my and my Uncle turned it in, because Estwing has a lifetime warranty. My Uncle got a new hammer that day for free.
Does the Martinez help quite a bit with wrist and elbow pain? My arm is WRECKED from driving nails all day doing formwork. Been considering seeing some kind of specialist for the pain. I just ordered a Martinez m1 so I hope it helps even just a little bit
How has that M1 been working out for you?
@@gregorsamsa1364I’ve been using the m1 for 3 years framing and I don’t recommend it. It’s a heavy hammer and defeats the purpose of a lightweight titanium hammer. Also too short for framing. If you do siding or finish work or just a diy then m4 is good. But for framing I use a ti-bone 2 or 14oz stiletto.
If you want to start the nail with the Estwing, put the nail in the rear claw and swing it how you would regularly... Then lift and flip your hammer over and keep going.
lol, I noticed that his wooden handle stiletto was sunk in, meaning that head is about to come off... young framers lol
honestly the perfect hammer in my mind would be the m4 head with a wooden stiletto handle.
Martinez made the stiletto ti-bone and updated it with his own company
Facts.
But not the III, correct? I’m curious how the 3 stacks up to the Martinez.
I used an Estwing long handled framer for years. As someone below mentioned, it was the go-to hammer for form work back in the day, because you could screed the top of a wall with the shaft! Death to your hand if you framed with it all day though, and I eventually bought a California framer.
All my tools got stolen just as I bought this former trap house to gut and remod, so I bought a DeWalt 14oz (!) Framer, haven't tried it yet but it's lighter than my old finish hammer, lol.
I had tools older than I am, I really miss my Stanley #136, and this crazy huge pair of wire tying pliers with bypass cutters on either side.
Weight makes a difference since you use a hammer not very often in production framing, mainly finishing off toenails or nail that the gun didn't fully set.
I also prefer the smooth face, as I can use my framer as a finish hammer for punch list stuff without having to swap out hammers.
On that note, a cement coated 16 needs to be driven in a single swing; the friction softens the resin which then hardens again, cementing the nail into your stick of wood - if you tapetty-tap it in, the cement will not work as advertised.
Finish nails, by contrast are not typically cement coated, do tap away, finish nails are supposed to be seated slightly below flush, which requires a nail set to accomplish, waffle marks in natural finish wood are not pretty if you happen to get rambunctious, seen it too many times.
I do like that Martinez M4, THAT is a finish hammer: the squared top allows you to reach into tight corners, or up against a window frame, for example, and the mini claw at the end of the big claw, same principle. I had a generic hammer with a similar design though steel, that so far, I've been unable to replace.
Another feature to look for is a soft rubber butt for tapping snug fitting finish pieces in place without marring soft woods. 😱
Otherwise, use a piece of scrapwood between the hammer and the finish piece, a piece of lath or whatever - use a bit of lath or a shim under your hammer if you have to pull a finish nail as well, as it will otherwise mar your piece.
What!?
This guy knows whats up
Are all framers thieves? Damn, I lost two $1,000 belts w/tools when I used to frame.
When you’re pulling nails, you don’t need a side puller or a lark hook claw. You can just hook into the nail with the claw and move your hammer side to side. It’s way easier. For the wood handles, using a rasp on the bottom part of the handle makes it way easier to grip. Get rid of the factor varnish on the wood and use some linseed oil instead to preserve the handle. You can also make a new handle custom to your hand type too which is nice. I like a longer handle.
stiletto 12s axe handle outdoors,
stiletto 10s axe handle indoors ..... Absolutely love Em, should have got them 20 years ago..... Worth Every Penny
If you owned that estwing for 50 years the handle would have turned green already.
Would also say..safe t-shape...or ...evergrip...if I was really old...where its says...warning wear safety goggles.
He said he has had these hammers for 50 years. Not necessarily that specific hammer for 50 years.
I am sure it was a joke as he said he was 51. That would suggest that he got it when he was 1.
He said 20 not 50
Bro he Said ‚theese‘ hammers, he‘s saying they’ve been around for at least 50 years because he‘s been buying them for 50 years
Great video ! Lots of insights and practical tips !
Thank you. Very clear and helpful. I'd go probably for the Stiletto and modify my tool belt for slide with a strong slick material or just a wider opening with maybe a magnet near the top to keep it in. It looked impressive to me, especially pulling out nails.
I wore the milled face off of 4 estwings, my first one has all the patterns worn off the handle
you start the nail in the claw of the estwing or craftsman or whatever traditional hammer you have, trust me
We use all screws in Decks here in Michigan
Thank you great video Martinez and one M1 finish hammer that’s what I’m getting
Excellent video! Question, what diamondback pouches are you wearing in your video? Seeing their functionality, I believe I’m now sold.
I’m not certain of the configuration, contact @diamondback_dimani on Instagram for a complete rundown
Tape on the end of your stiletto make it slide in and out of your hammer holster very easily.
Hi you need to have a look at the English company kinetic customs Nighthawk V2 F-16 hammer I bought one and I prefer it over the martinez hammer
1:57 lol I never ever work without my belt... If you aren't wearing it you aren't getting paid. I also got a stiletto yesterday and Its actually crazy how much better It feels in my hands and on my waist, I think Im a long light hammer type guy
Those Stilettos are really nice. Would love to have one but I do concrete construction and if I walked out with one I'd probably get my ass kicked
Why ?
@@gerardobecerra7703 it's just a saying. I wouldnt get my ass kicked but I would catch hell. Its because we use our hammers for all kinds of different things that is hard on hammers. Using a $120 hammer doesn't make too much sense
Best investment you’ll ever make. Got a Martinez and I do the same kind of work, you definitely won’t regret it
@@Alex-zv2xc I got a stiletto the other day for all the framing work on the concrete jobs I do. 10/10 would recommend.
@@apelincoln1616 I wouldn’t recommend a hickory handle, but look at a TiBone by stiletto, would probably be an awesome concrete hammer
That compressor driving me nutz. You should have tossed one of those hammers over there knocking him out.
Great video thanks for your opinions
Thanks for watching and SUBSCRIBE!!
what about Vaughan?
Why not use screws instead?
Screws can shear over time. Nails can bend and move with out breaking. Depends on the application.
Actually the M4 is lighter than the Mini 14, The M4 is 12 OZ. It probably feels heavier because all the weight is in the head, where as the weight is balanced in the Mini 14.
Higher centre of gravity. Higher centre of gravity with a hammer means that you're going to get more shock to your wriste rather than an even distribution of shock through your full arm.
Dr. Decks what is the music you used at the start of the video? I dig it
Mark martinez is respnsible for both brands shown guys ? He became convinced the super strong but super lightweight properties of titanium would benefit framers .His first company STILETTO was made a offer he could not refuse from milwalkee tools to sell out ! He took the money and started martinez !
Understood
Awesome thanks never knew
Facts. Ive had every hammer on the video and the Martinez M1 is def a life changer. Has the balance of a Vaughan 23oz cali framer without the weight.
I love my M1 , where are you guys from?
Great talking points you made on all these hammers, nice job!
Thank You and thanks for Subscribing!
I Love my Martinez M4
I think my knees my right hip and both shoulders are titanium .I may be wrong though But five joint replacements by 56 is good going 😁👍🏴
I’m looking for a good 24-28oz hammer… any suggestions
I mean if you’re just need a hammer for around the house I suggest a Vaughan wood handle hammer. Now if you’re in the trades and you do framing get a Martinez m1 hammer but I still like a good Vaughan 19 oz wood handle.
Do you have any articles or journals to about that?
You do know Martinez is the designer of the stiletto hammer right?
Indeed
The Martinez hammer has a steel head and the stilleto is all titanium that makes it lighter
Nope Martinez M1 15oz, Stiletto Ti-bone 15oz, their both 15 oz... same weight
Stilettos have a steel face. Martinez the whole head is steel. Mark found people can break titanium claws much easier then steel. Kinda like nails. Screws are softer metal that can bend when being pry’d on. Screws are hard and brittle. Like titanium. So titanium is stronger and has much better vibration control. But in any kind of demo work the steel claw is the way to go.
@@dylancharlton6512 You said your a "Pro for Stiletto" you should do your homework on Titanium. Screw are not like titanium, screws breaks because they are rigid, titanium is ductile. Its the impurities as an alloy and flaws due to casting that causes the titanium to fail. it is far more ductile than a steel of equivalent hardness.
That estwing isn’t 50. Maybe 10-20. Those handles usually go green around 30.
I forgot the caviot. This could be that only if it just sat in the tool box most days.
What’s the pouch u use
A magnetic hammer must be pretty innacurate at starting exactly where you need, particularly for skew nailing.
Depends on how good you are at it.....
It’s for when you only have one hand spare, or reaching very high.
@@AshHalls
LOL, both things I try to avoid when building! There is a method I learned way back of holding a 4" nail between 2nd and 3rd finger, with its head against the hammer's face, and the hammer head in your fist, then stabbing the nail point into the wood using the weight of the hammer head as a dolly to "stick in" the nail point. It's very accurate. Then release the nail, grab the hammer handle properly and drive normally. Rarely need it, especially with nail guns these days!!! but it does the job.
@@thedolphin5428 Haha most of us now don’t even know the simplest of old school tricks. I have never once used the magnet on my hammer, like you said we mostly use nail guns now. My old boss made me use hand nails and hand saws for 2 years when doing my apprenticeship, I loved it but now they are last resort.
@@AshHalls
Maybe a magnetic hammer is most useful for picking up nails when they all fall out of your nail bag ... not to mention being covered with fucking metal filings and other magnetic shit from down in the bottom of a toolbox!
Yo what brand bags are those I liked the one where you put your hammer in
Diamondback tool belts
My dad has a couple estwing but I don’t know how to know if they are old
You should look at Ernie villarino’s hammer as well! It’s up there!
Hmm Pacific Northwest?
Martinez M4 with head M1. All the best!
That’s super top heavy. I’d suggest going the other way, M4 head on an M1 handle. You see how he balanced the M1 like 3/4 up the handle? M1 head on a M4 handle would essentially be balanced at the head itself.
@@swfcompany8641 mark just made a titanium bolts for the steel heads. It makes the m1 a little more balanced and lightweight. And recently I just bought his new titanium m4 head with a special titanium bolt for it on a m4 handle. Can’t wait to try it out definitely going to be the lightest hammer out there.
Just put the M1 head on the M4 shaft, little bit heavier but better head 🤌
The head nod and airplane part was funny. Most of it.
I have a mini 14. Best damn hammer I've ever used. Love it. I hand bang my decks off out on the coast here in Washington. Like rite on the Pacific. And rust is a issue with all other but this ti hammer. Nothing but goods!!!
how are you liking it ? i currently have the t3 but feels kinda heavy at times residential framer i hit nails every day. home depot has a deal on mini 14 $180 should i get it
@@alex3I4_ send it bud. It's the best hammer I've used and light and gits hard
@@austinsonger388 awesome thanks for the reply going to order it today! is your magnetic still intact?
@@alex3I4_ ohnyeah still has the magnet
qualified carpenter here, id just like to point out you never need to be flicking nails with the side puller like that, you can place your other hand on it to avoid it from pinging away
The point you made right off the bat with the estwing is crucial; over price and cool guy features should be function specifically to your work.
using galvanized nails driving nails in pressure treated lumber with nots may make pulling nails a little harder lol
Great video
You don't allow waffle heads, yet don't understand that a rip claw is meant for ripping, not pulling nails. Interesting. Decking boards should be screwed not nailed, anyway.
Dude what do you know? Joist hangers are nailed per code. All the decking bears no weight on the screw itself as it's sitting on top of the joists... Hence why DECK SCREWS exist.
I have an Estwing rock hammer that was my dads
Every framer I know keeps the hammer behind their back near the tailbone, I don't anyone who keeps it in a slip pouch in front of themselves.
i can relate to breathing air... definitely subbing
I hate planes and gardeners blowers while i’m talking 😂
Where your Douglas hammer $180? Also no waffles, ‘92 porter Cable 3 1/2” air framer - and a ‘89 Vaughan hammer for my deck builds
Which Diamand back tool bags are those?
I think it’s the Denali
I lost my framing hammer which had a flat claw, never pulled out nails easily but the side claw worked well. What is the point of a claw hammer with a flat claw, as you showed in the vid even on the expensive hammers you just used the side claw?
Agreed. I would prefer a curved claw as well but for some reason, premium hammer manufacturers think I’m nuts for wanting one.
The straight claw is fantastic for chopping into a piece of wood and pulling it to you. Typically in framing we try to not have to pull nails, plus for those rocking wood handles it’s tough on the handle pulling nails. We have a saying, if you’re pulling a nail, you need to think about what you’re doing more. Especially now, screws are for the temporary work, nails are permanent. It’s all task specific really. I rock a Stiletto 14 on an 18” axe curve handle framing. Most of the time for framers when you have to pull a nail, you’re going to have to use a cats paw anyway because it’s set.
If you’re looking for a less high end hammer though that has a great hybrid claw design that is curved but still straight enough to chop and drag, Tekton makes a nice 22oz steel head
@@colbywood8113 we pull heaps of nails for the forms and footings, and bracing. Then for the bracing of the structure. Thousands of nails over each building start to finish I reckon.
I just put an M1 head on my M4 handle and I’m in heaven. Try it out
Eastwing as to be the best based on price and quality 👌
I’m from the UK so estwing is my go too. But good review
This is funny bc I have an estwing 20 and 22 that I use everyday and im looking to up grade.
I got a tb3 15 for 249
Love my mini 14 and I also have the diamond back hammer sheath I wrapped the bottom 2 or so inches in electrical tape and my hammer slips right in and out
Estwing is one of my favorite brand
I don't know why YT recommended this. My only hammer is a 22oz DeWalt steel hammer, used a few times per year when I need to pulverize something. 🤣
What tool bags do you have on?
Looks like a diamondback system
Mckenzies M1 is stunning but that wooden stiletto is Gangster
You don't hang a hammer on a f****** joist, you hang it on your belt/bags
I work.in construction and I wouldn't dream of spending over £100 on a hammer. In fact in over 30 years on site (UK) I've never seen a Martinez or Stiletto hammer. It's either Estwing or Stanley
Canada here, see stilettos all the time.
I have one and bust it out if I'm working somewhere I don't think I will get it jacked.
I hate having anxiety at break time thinking my hammer is being stolen.
Goes for all my tools. I keep my pencil stubs and worn out drill bits in my pouch so when a different trade asks to borrow it I can give them the crap one. :).
These hammers swing like a 28 Oz framing hammer but yet only weigh 12 to 14 oz
@@bobs6129 weighs 12oz swings like a 28oz and costs like a 112oz
@Adam Coyne everyone i see with an eastwing is wearing track pants covered in concrete stains, a black beer t-shirt one size too big with a couple holes and a stretched out neck and 1/8th of a tool belt.
Good group of people.
UK chippie here, I used an Estwing 24oz for 30 years, I was having some issues with tennis elbow and loaned a martinez and I was sold the first day. Went and bought an M1 which is 15 oz but hits easily as hard as my old 24oz and never looked back. Tennis elbow was gone within 1 week after suffering with it for a couple of years. They are expensive but to me worth every penny to get rid of the vibrations etc. that cause the tennis elbow problems. It's lighter on the belt too if that's worth anything. If I was buying again I'd consider an M1 head on an M4 shaft just for the shorter length but for 2nd fix I just choke up on the longer M1 shaft a bit and it's sound enough. The side nail puller is a revelation if you've never used one.
My dad uses one rn lmao 😂he’s had his for over 7 years I just bought another stiletto hammer
Good point about the claw.. maybe Martinez will make a head for the titanium shaft!
Should've tested head hardness by beating hammer on hammer, which is handy for demo jobs, although they'll say you shouldn't do
No way! His M4 colors are the same as my M1
His white one I mean
Estwing hammers are the king of knocking sticks in the 🇬🇧
I have several estwing in different configurations and they are the go to hammers plain and simple,though the Martinez m1 is a must.. cA
@@crazya3466 on your recommendation I've ordered one
@@chickenandchip7969 get the long claw hammer,curved one's are good at nail pulling but the straight claw end is fictional as a lever and slpitter,it also pulls nails good enough, but the straight claw is the best, 20 ounce,but for framing use the 24 ounce. Good luck and enjoy one the best hammers on the market for the price.. cA
I’m with @samuel Shonhart Fishing
You had me at if I breathe air. Damn it if it’s not good too see humor in the field
That a darn Finnish hammer bro, put a 28 oz. Estwing they run circles around them all.
Blue Grass is the best hammers ever made but they quit making them a few decades back. You ever come across one of them at a flea market or yard sale......pick it up.
Why didn't you have your nail bags on!?!?
Martinez is a titanium handle, steel head
Its funny that hammers are such a talking point when they get used far less than they used to when guys actually swung those things all day long
Nice vid
I breathe air, subbed