New "Professional College Sports" League Being Proposed By NFL Commissioner's "Lieutenant"
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The only thing they can't do is remove the teams' associations with the schools. If they lose that, they lose the fan base.
NFL dgaf about the ncaa fan base
@@jjcash8233 his point is people wouldnt show up or pay as much to see them after a bit of time if they lose the connection to the school.
And everyone involved cares if they loses the $$ they usually get from games
@@jjcash8233 You remove the college, the tradition, the atmosphere, then you dont have college football. NFL may not Give a F but if they want the league to make money. They'll just leave it as is really with more sponsors.
@@jjcash8233lol yeah they have to 😂 college football is the 2nd most watched sport in the country bro the fans got mad money behind em. All the nfl gives a fk about is delivering profit to its shareholders, they are fiscally obligated to gaf about college fans
What will actually happen is the NCAA will be ousted from power over college sports. The money will be spread to the athletes, and less to those at the top who do nothing. They will be replaced by a fewer people that will take less of the profits.
If the NCAA admin people get more money, they’re open to anything. If they don’t get more money from it, they won’t do it. I think it’s really that simple and bleak
Aren't they basically only in charge of the NCAA Basketball tournament at this stage? Thought that was where like 90% of their funding comes from organizing that. Thought they lost football already.
@@brent4073 true. Conference admin people*
How much money does the NCAA make?
@@Seth-ohnobillions..AND BILLIONS!
thats just life tho. like pretty much every human i have ever met is worried about what gives them more money/value in life. everything makes decisions based on what they think leaves them better off, that is not just an ncaa thing
College football is slowly turning into a semi-pro league.
Always has been. By definition. They only make you think that it wasn't because the "front" was Academic heritage
I’d consider 30-50 hours required by players per week a semi-pro position.
It's always been semi pro , minus the players getting pennies on the dollar at best...
It's not semi pro it's for all intents and purposes..it's a pro league
That’s how it should’ve been the whole time
Football is no joke. You work your ass off and your body takes a beating. There is no way any grown man should be playing such a violent sport & not get paid for it while the coaches & networks are making millions. Nobody should work for below their value. They generate revenue & should receive their cut. Period.
It's called a scholarship.
@@Just_Inthemountainsmost student athletes don’t have scholarships
@@Just_Inthemountains you see how much these athletes can make in an open market, it’d be like paying a doctor minimum wage bc “that’s just how it should be”
If what you say was true. We would have to grow our own food. 🤷🏻♂️
@@harryhoffman3000they are in an open market already, ever heard of a NIL
Remember when athletes had to be "academically eligible" to play? It seems everyone's always eligible these days. Do they still take classes or is putting on a uniform the total experience?
Majority take low stress level classes/majors with tons of tutor help and online classes. They also only need a 2.5 to be eligible, most wouldn’t have the gpa to be competitive in their incoming freshman class if they weren’t athletes.
The same Internet that you used to type this question; is the Internet you can use to find the answer about academic eligibility. However, I don't think you're truly interested in finding the real answer...
No. They get given grades and don’t even have to show up. If you know you know.
@@tacotacotington3638no, as a second string qb for a major university they still made the starters go to some classes but most all of the classes are either online and are very low stress classes although some guys still carry normal classes and graduate with actual degrees as I did
@@tacotacotington3638I had a relative go to Bama and he can confirm
College football was always a pro league, it's just before the only ones making money were literally everyone involved apart from the athletes 😂😭.
If this passes. College sports are dead.
It's already well on its way.
College sports have been dead.
Nah. Here's the thing. College ball is and always has been about local fans. It's the closest thing to English Soccer we have in the US. A College Football Federation would just be what it is now but with better oversight, players getting paid, and none of the bs NCAA ruling that make no sense. You think Bama fans gonna stop watching cause the team is a semi-pro club? Nah. College football viewership is the highest it has ever been.
I actually think it's great for college football, of course the fans who don't know what's like to get in multiple car accidents every single week in form of getting hit and tackled every game except these guys to just suffer when they are older and hope that regular 9-5 they have can pay for their healthcare
@@GundamGokuTV what kids want to go to a college that is ran by semi-pros? LMAO they will lose all connection to the actual institution who already owns all the stadiums, logos, equipment, etc.
What do you mean "finally" have a feeder system ?
The reason people pay to see college football is because it’s associated with their college or home town or state. If you remove that then it’s just a NFL knockoff. It would be hard to keep the fan base and then does that remove scholarships?
Wouldn’t that team also be associated with said town/state? If anything, the xfl has show that many people are welcoming to new leagues.
@@trentwise3762 no, you lose the alumni, fight songs, traditions that make CFB great.
maybe i mistook what was said, but it seemed like the proposal would still involve the schools?
@@iiMERLlN oh no not the alumni!
Just come up with new fight songs. European fans do it all the time. And nfl teams have traditions too.
But none of those things are good enough reasons to not evolve the sport of it’s going to increase its popularity
@@trentwise3762 and no one watches or fills seats. Good job, you don’t have a clue about CFB. Tradition is what makes it great. Without it, CFB is nothing.
Must separate professional sports teams from schools. They're unrelated, just get in the way of each other.
Most of the top college athletes don’t even stick around long enough for a degree and the degrees they do get are useless so why not have a professional league that they can get paid while they are learning their trade.
@@jasonshumake777 what happens when the market of possible employees of the trade gets so diluted because there are now 10,000's of athletes trying to improve their "trade" with a limited amount of teams to use the "trade" in exchange for salary? LMAO acting like theres infinite options for athletes in terms of work in the sport
@@heathbell7062 I’m talking about the elites who aren’t going to college for a degree. It’s easy to tell which high school kids have a shot. It all comes down to genetics and talent. For example 5.0 40 guy will never be a 4.5 40 guy.
Horrible idea, CFB becoming NFL -lite
I feel like this is the eventual evolution.
It’s how soccer works. It’s how sports grow, the more leagues the more exposure the sport has
It became NFL lite when NIL became official
Inevitable idea, it was already professional
@GregH-qk7cx I have 0 problems with it. I am stating the fact that when players began being able to be paid for their likeness, they started looking out for their best interests vs the school’s interests
Didn’t they see how disastrous the soccer super league was
Which one?
@@LeonNeuton in Europe the top 16 soccer clubs wanted to create their own league that didn’t answer to anyone and basically reap massive profits that was the only reason they wanted the super league in the first place and the fans basically revolted and FIFA and UEFA said basically if your a part of this you won’t compete in the Euros or World Cup
This is completely different.
How many players actually make it to the league, either in NFL, NBA, MLB, NHL everything. The people who don't make the league are at least getting an education while playing their favorite sport. You take away college and just put them into a league they're not being positioned for as much success after their playing days are over
How many players are getting into college that they dont even qualify for on their academic merit and they STILL dont make a league??? Some players can't even read and they dont make it into the NFL but get pushed through college.
How many people get a degree and still work in food service or retail? Colleges are a dying entity
@@sixgage2829 Not saying it works out for everyone, but a lot of college is being able to create connections for a future career, and lots of employers love seeing athletic experience
Or… they can make money, and then pay their own way in college … like literally everyone else.
@@sixgage2829only those that have stupid degrees haha.
Knew this would happen - NFL is trying to create a college "super league" of only the Power 5 football conferences
The crazier part is the agents
Draft kids out of high school and place them in the minor leagues. Also mean some kids will play decades for college teams.
@GregH-qk7cx you do the recall them dude that played college ball until he was 30 under different names. There a lot guy that play a long time in the minors. Joe beimel is 44 in the minors.
Uh.... Guys.... If I'm a college student and I'm given the opportunity to make a living in a "professional" college team.... Potentially in my hometown, especially... Why the hell would I ever try to leap to the NFL?
I've been saying a developmental league could be super helpful for football. There's a bunch of players who just aren't ready yet, or even when teams want to draft and stash a QB, for example. Like, imagine if instead of just sitting around on the bench, you could draft, say, a Jordan Love and keep him playing in that dev league
As long as we get NCAA 25 idgaf
Grow up. Games are for the non woke. Stay woke my dear child.
I think of the power 5 conferences the big 12 is on decently solid ground being in third place.
They need the european soccer league relegation format. Would be awesome!
It would certainly be interesting. Some college teams are absolutely massive. If they go pro I can easily see them being able to pay more than some NFL teams. Then what? Intriguing.
I said this years ago and even made conferences and divisions. “NCFL” 50 teams. March madness style playoffs with 20 teams.
me an a buddy talked about it like the NFL was going to start having feeder leagues without the NCAA
Congress will never allow Title IX to be destroyed. The revenue from football funds every other non-revenue sport.
They should give out football degrees too so the whole joke stops as well
From the beginning, I've believed sports scholarships are/were valuable forms of payment in disguise - rewarding dedication, talent, and hard work of student-athletes!
“Oh how terrible these young players making money off their hard work” “let’s step in and take 90% of their money and stuff it in our own pockets”.
Getting rid of rivalries are bad for the sport, you have no idea how big the SEC is ONLY because there’s a southern draw. Big ten is similar. Creating divisions will kill that and the lower teams that solely survive on their rivalries, will also die. Totally stupid idea made up by suits who just don’t get it
At what point did we lose sight that education was priority one regardless if a person can play a sport ?
This is 100% a good thing, seperate degree seekers from focused athletes. This will also clear up any ambiguity in regards to payments made out to the players
Not one single fart… show is going down hill
Hahahahahahaha😅
I hope they make it based off a total points system for all sports and force all schools to add all sports. So dumb some school have some sports while others don’t.
Cut to the chase and remove the word "college" from football. It's all tumbling down and will eventually dissociate itself from colleges and universities. The smell of money is the culprit.
@GregH-qk7cx Stop calling these idiots student athletes. Stop insinuating they're there for a college education. Stop insinuating they're held to university standards - academically and behaviorally. They're straight off the street illiterates seeking money and fame.
Players have been payed forever. In the 70’s, where I went, players were given cars, apartments, envelopes of cash, weekly, and I knew one player who got a small piece of the local coca cola bottling company. Seems now they’re getting better money and that’s fine by me. I would just like to see that if you want to change schools, you have to sit out at least one year.
Just want I want in college football…private equity.
A monopoly would be 100 times worse than the NCAA could ever be
This isn't that different from the old kickoff rules... Under the previous rules, a defensive penalty on the try only resulted in a guaranteed touchback on the kickoff vs. an almost-guaranteed touchback
it sounds more like they dont like the cost of the combine then a super league
Basically what I’m hearing is we are not changing the league which the super league would probably be better because of tv network deals with divisions how does that make since let’s not doing something better for the game and athletes playing the game because we gonna make some old guy mad at the sec that no one cares about and have to renegotiate tv deals just sounds lazy to me and like they are afraid to mess with the old fucks no one cares about club
It's been coming for a while- the University Affiliated Professional Football League (UAPFL)
We’ve already done about too much. We can’t just get rid of over 150 years of college football history!
If we can get rid of 100 years of legalislatuve history with affirmative action and other stuff in government level college can do the same
Then what’s going to have to happen is the NCAA is going to have to fork over the money from the TV rights to the athletes. No more pocketing it all for themselves.
I mean that history is always gonna be there. But to say “you can’t change because history” goes against basically every advancement humans have ever made
I like the idea but not permanent teams in the top tier of a relegation system. That's insanely unfair to the less wealthy teams fighting tooth and nail just to stay while the bigger teams can sit in their broadcast and merch money.
I can't lie I do like this especially since a lot of these kids end up being a Bust in the NFL. Have them make a bit of money before they get to the big boy league that way these guys have some financial ability to provide for themselves and also pay for healthcare when they are in their later years. Fans want to enjoy but will not want to put their bodies in harms way like these guys
Well the UFL is to get crushed like a empty beer can
So was your mom
It's one of the worst ideas I've heard in the in a while!! How about don't change damn thing!
This would DESTROY every other college sport other than football! Absolutely can't happen if you want to ever see any other college sports other than football!
@GregH-qk7cxI mean it wouldn’t destroy every sport. But a lot of sports would not be able to function with out that money. Like the money making sports would be fine like basketball and hockey but everything else would be in danger some might survive but not all of them.
@GregH-qk7cx Absolutely not. There wouldn't be funding for all the other sports at these schools that's what I mean
People aren’t going to be more interested in a g-league, AAA type team vs their college. The college atmosphere vs a regular development league 👎🏼.
Rivalries going back 100+ years.
I’d be interested to see how they’d set it up, but the talent isn’t there. Keep the UFL as a secondary option to college. Fix NIL and transfer portal.
I figured it was only a matter of time before a football "minor league" would be created
What about literally any sport besides football? There are 20+ other sports at most campuses, how are they going to be a professional league?
I’d hate it to happen but it absolutely can work since the NCAA already doesn’t recognize football national championships
@GregH-qk7cx you might want to do a simple google search. The NCAA has never officially endorsed a CFB national champion.
What is the % of college football athletes that benefit by graduating with a degree?
What are the percentage of athletes that take jobs in athletic departments of their college or other positions.
Because nobody brings these qualities to light already tells you what people think. It’s already a farm club for the NFL.
But the reality is that it’s not.
Somehow the athletes that don’t get drafted have to be allowed to still get their scholarships fulfilled and the opportunity to go back to the college teams at a later date.
It’s the athletes fault for choosing worthless degrees because they can’t stay eligible without low level classes
@@iiMERLlN I think in life empathy and opportunity is the best way to treat humans.
I hope you have been able to benefit someway in your life from those qualities.
@@Roy-mw5js that’s the softest mindset I’ve ever heard
@@iiMERLlN not sure if that's good or bad😂
Whats the difference between MLB having a [farm] league and the NFL having one? Be it "semi-pro/World League [1991] or USFL"
Pat mentioned a good point that wasn't even discussed more and it should have was about the other sports besides football, some colleges are better in those other sports compared to football, just like basketball you have smaller schools making the ncaa tournament but are not that known or good in football which pretty much football seems what this whole thing is based around and it shouldn't. Colleges are for education first and sports second, so they just need to keep things simple a come up with rules and regulations regarding NIL and ditch this super pro league nonsense.
Then seperate it from let it stand on its on.
The fact that NFL is getting involved at all should be Alarming. Something doesn't add up. NFL to control College Sports?
Apple and Amazon come in and deal the final blow to network TV?
Sounds fine until you realize ESPN will buy the whole league and ruin it
Private equity always makes everything better!
I think the league needs to work on expanding internationally. They’ve pretty much tapped the market here in America.
Dumbest idea I've ever heard
"Super League" sounds really familiar to what they tried to do with European soccer. Is it the same people?? It did not fly with the fans at all in Europe, especially England. Also I think making cfb professional will be devastating. Great for players but I think a good percentage fans will go to other sports. Just my prediction.
NIL and the portal is the dumbest thing ever, and everyone knows it so why doesn’t someone stop it
This would be so horrible for college sports
Pofessional college is an oxymoron
What's to stop a wealthy booster from augmenting any salary from a school? So, salary caps or employment restrictions are all a joke.
As long as a student is going to school to get a degree they should be allowed to play.
This is ridiculous
So in other words college footballs money goes to the colleges and not the nfl/big spenders so they need to somehow make money off of the colleges
Honestly, this would be preferrable to having essentially pro athletes living alongside regular 18-22yos in a college setting. I would have zero desire to watch either league equally too.
To think CFB used to be my favorite sport 10+ years ago but like everything else they have ruined it.
Please, please, please, for the love of GOD, keep Roger Goodell away from college football.
Pete Thameltoe
“Student” Athlete
What's next? A NFL professional peewee league
Can't have anything nice.
How much $$ do taxpayers pay for scholarships? While the A.D. and coach are making millions. NCAA executives making millions. Tv making millions.
I hope this doesn’t happened.. NFL is becoming boring to watch. Don’t ruin college football
So, in this new proposed league how long would a player be allowed to stay on said team? If they are not drafted, could they just become a professional minor league football player. Would they keep the school name? Would they be allowed to be drafted to a said NFL team, and then placed in their minor league for development. I'm for NIL, I'm for player empowerment, but I love ALL levels of Football. every player not going pro, and we know that. Why cant we just enjoy Football the way it is. College Players getting paid now, they are allowed to freely transfer { mostly}, however I believe most will not be happy to every dollar is made. They the NCAA, NFL, or any other league seem to just car about money, and not the game. RAnt OVer
College football allowing super LEAGUE will ONLY make college football worse. NIL deals will funnel to the super league and other college students will suffer. It will create an elite status society in college football and Not allowing other schools to compete or grow.
Wouldn't this make the NFL obsolete as well?
probably not because the NFL is 100 years ahead in the "pro" aspect
No thanks that would kill CFB
Yes it would
CFB is already on the ventilator. Just turn it off already
Something needs to happen because D1 college football is completely ruining the NCAA
Everything gets ruined when you try to maximize profits, happens with everything and now college football is next.
Its hypothetical today. But it is coming. Super League is coming.
NFL-G League
You should not pay college kids to play sports
Why not?
I thought college sports were already dead. 🙂
They have already ruined basketball and on the same path for football, so might as well finish it all off. Just get rid of all college sports and make them minor leagues. Us old timers are losing interest. No rivalries, lose 2-3 games and get in the playoffs. Bowls are dead. Teams turn over every year. No loyalty. Why should I care about lower level football just because of a jersey?
Lot of folks don’t understand college fans are highly loyal to the schools first and foremost. Only a small minority watches just for certain players
Any student getting paid to play should have to pay their own way through school
This is all bad
Are we going to college for education or a pro-sports league? They should remove all sports out of college and let them be completely separate. Revenue sharing. TV deals,etc.. ...taxpayers shouldn't be footing the bill for any of this (public colleges).
Sadly the Pac12 had to die just a few years before the football super league is created. All the other sports will still be tied to the NCAA (volleyball, soccer, softball, baseball and even basketball.
Pro- NFL
Semi-XFL
Amateur-College
There I fixed it! No NIL!
College kids get paid by way of free tuition, room and board!
Saudi Arabia will be able to pump billions and billions and even endless money to make a new Super League.
Football just needs to separate itself from the NCAA and from other college athletics
Yo, the dudes behind this proposal are far more powerful than the B1G 10 or the SEC. Please get off the knee pads for Sankey....
College football is about passion not money it won’t survive If it transitions to this I think schools need to get directly involved at this point and take out all 3rd party nil pay the players a solid salary on top of free education and room and board set caps of like 150k a year which would bring fairness back into the sport considering every team could afford a 22 man roster and kids would go to schools they actually wanted to play for instead of just choosing money
And Im not an old white saying this lmao I’m in my 20s
In a way I agree but $150k is peanuts compared to the revenue they are generating. These guys generate billions on revenue. Billions with a B.
It’s 100% about money. Especially for the NCAA and the top athletes. Maybe not for the ones who aren’t making the nfl, but for those who are bringing exposure to the league, it’s about money
How can you say about passion when there's NIL and unlimited portals?
@@reubensandwich9249 I guess it used to be about passion but this certainly took most of it away
Money is tied to school boosters. Remove the boosters remove the money.
They're investing in our future potentials and dreams.
College has always been the minor leagues of the NFL.
Michigan MADE the Big 10, they arent just gonna leave it for some "professional college league" without the Big 10 in someway shape or form
well, SEC and Big 10 are the two big ones, if any change is in for the future, they will be a part of it in some shape or form.
They are in the most populated region of the country as well.
But the big 10 name might go... I'll go by your thinking: if Michigan made the Big 10, they can break it too.
Nfl needs to stay away from college football l.
just get rid of college sports and have pro leagues instead. That way the schools won't need to fake grades for the idiot athletic scholarship guys who can barely read.
@GregH-qk7cx
Why do you say that?