Nice video again Hugh! I have been using topaz video enhance ai for a while to upscale my drone and 360-footage to 8K. I love it. Its my big secret as a lot of people dont know about it.
@@hughhou As a 360-goeroe i am not surprised that you discovered enhance ai as a useful tool for upscaling 360 footage haha. I mostly do my upscaling during night as it indeed can take a while to get a 8k output res. Last week i even upscaled a 3,5 hours video to 8k with enhance ai. It took a full night but fortunately i was sleeping 😁 But i am happy the latest versions of enhance ai are faster. In 2020 upscalling with enhance ai took forever
7:20 I like the Da Vinci Resolve Super Scale better because it is closer to the original file. Though Topaz Video Enhance AI is certainly a good use for clearing up skin blemishes, it also creates a dreamy, cloudy, less detailed look over the entire video.
Hello Hugh! Thank you for this cool video! I have an Insta360 One X2, and this leads me to a question: in terms of maxing out quality and smoothness is it better to shoot 5.7K@30FPS & upscale with Topaz to 8K@30FPS, or will it be better to go 4K@50FPS & upscale with Topaz to 8K@50FPS ?
I personally suggest 4K@50fps - upscale is easier than upframerate to avoid artifacts. There will be artifacts still on Video Enhance AI - it is not officially support 360 or VR video as there is no sphereical AI model - so that is why I have not make a tutorial yet. But 4K@50fps is faster and better result if that is the route you go. My snowboarding video tho it is 6K30fps - but the post is a pain in the butt.... after I went tho it, I won't recommand to anyone for the pains..
@@hughhou The one pain I noticed currently, is that upscale is extremely expensive in terms of performance. As you said in 360VR video you have to give time for the audience to adapt to the view - this means longer footage >20 sec, and this means more frames to upscale. An this means many-many hours of processing. I use a dedicated AMD Radeon Pro 580 (Blackmagic eGPU), and it spent around 20 hours on 10 videos ~30-40sec each. And it got so hot, I'm worried it can melt in the process :)
Cam the same process be applied for exports done with the Insta360 app? I much rather prefer using my phone for directing than a PC. I get 2160 exports using Stories so what could this process get those exports up to?
Awesome job as usual. Your the king of 360. And a really good teacher. Have one question: what’s the process if i want to upscale from OnX2 to max resolution on my Quest2. I’m using da Vinci studio 17 and if I follow your tips, I need to double 5.7k with 2x upscale settings. Output will be too much for quest 2 😅. Any advices/process to upscale from 5.7K to 8K ? Thanks 😇
Yes, use the 2X upscale setting - then bring in the DNxHR file and let Resolve downscale for you. So essentially you have a bigger file. You tend proxy and edit the video file - do color and denoising - then at the end - render for Quest 2 in 8K output in H.265. So upscale is creating a "higher" resolution file for EDITING in DNxHR. But the final render should be HEVC in 8K max for Quest. Like if you shoot with Titan in 11K, we only render out 8K for Quest but the resolution and quality is so much better than shot just in 8K and render 8K if that make sense.
Thank you for the video.As always, very informative and useful. Please tell me about your new Sony Alpha 1 camera,how are things with overheating in 8k resolution? Very little information at the moment,I saw in one review that the maximum shooting time in 8k is about 15 minutes and then it turns off. If so, how long after the camera cools down can I use it again? Will there be a video review on it?
Hello, do you use first Premiere for editing single clips to one video then enhancing the whole thing in Topaz or the other way round? - First enhance all the single clips with Topaz then editing all in Premiere? Thx B
I edit first and then enhance. As Enhance will big the resolution or frame rate higher - so more stress on your PC / Mac. Also you only want to use Topaz on necessary frames - as the render per frame is usually really slow even you have RTX3090
Hi Hugh. You upscale your 5.7k video to 8k with video enhanced AI. But do you have the stitching done at the end of the job or do you use Mistika VR to get it?
I stitch in Mistika first and then use video enhance AI - the new update do not create stitch line so it is good to go. Check my latest video - all done in Topaz: ruclips.net/video/WIFRYfv1w60/видео.html
@@hughhou Thank you for your quick response. Too bad Mistika VR is so expensive. I can't afford this kind of software just for leisure and not for professional use. So the best thing is to switch to a qoocam 8k camera.
Hi Hugh. I tried upscaling insta 360 onex 5.7k to 8k. First i exported the raw footage from insta 360 studio. Then i uploaded to topaz video enhance ai and exported it, settings- proteus fine tune, 8k, prores h22. It exported well. The problem is when i copied the file to Oculus quest 2, the file wont play the 8k file (does oculus play prores h22 files?) Please help.
From your side by side comparisons, the original 1440p was either about the same or clearly sharper and more detailed than the upscaled 4K side. Maybe you had them mislabeled?
Are you watching it in 4K display? So RUclips compression might mess up the comparison. But if you look closely, the "clearly sharper" result are all digital sharpen with lots of compression artifacts and pixelized line. See the 300% face zoom in if that help. The "blurry" version 4K is upscale without any post sharpening and gains added - a more nature capture should capture (like the GoPro without sharpen turn on). The problem of all action camera is the digital sharpen done in camera make it a low quality look. All the 4K footage is straight out of AI upscale without sharpening. So we can do it in a dedicated tool. If you follow the full tutorial, you see the final step is sharpening. Using those workflow will have better sharpen result - you sharpen the image details instead of noises. That is why looking at it in a distance - 4K look softer - but good soft. As it is what it need for post sharpening.
@@hughhou I'm watching this on my phone at 1440p resolution. Unfortunately I don't have a 4K display at this time. The side by side comparison that particularly stood out to me was at around the 3:25 mark in this video. I compared the look of about ten different areas and the original 1440p side looked much sharper, more detailed and overall much better than the upscaled 4K side. I mostly shoot my videos for my vlogs with an Insta 360 One R and save them in either 4K or 2.7K resolution at 60fps, but generally upscale them into 4K using MovAvi. Can't really have anything to complain about when it comes to quality. Looking forward to a time when Insta 360 comes out with an 8K 360 camera!
@@hughhou Hi Hugh I'm watching on a 34 inch 4K screen with RUclips at highest setting and to my eye like others have commented the upscaled version appears "Blurry" The side by side comparison I would pick the 1440p as looking more detailed , and sharper. Why go to all the trouble of upscaling if its not going to make a great difference , in this case it appears worse watching the comparison. Thankyou for your videos very informative keep up the good work.
Hugh, have you tried processing your Qoocam footage with Topaz? I run it though with Artemis HQ at 100% denoise/deblock and the footage seems improved to my amateur eye. I tried upscaling the 8k to 12k as a test, but the process failed as stated by Topaz labs documentation.
Thanks very much, very interesting. I've never used Resolve before but will take a look. Does Resolve recognise 360 footage as such, or is there a step to specify this? Also I read that Topaz Video Enhance doesn't work with 3080 cards.
I have Davinci and didn’t know I could do this. However, I have a question. What will be the proper order to superscale a video to 4k and also use optical flow for slow motion of a 30p clip? Would the order to execute this matter? Thanks.
These are honestly the missing link with 360 overcapture footage. Finally looking better with these tools. Now we just need youtube to update their terrible compression 🦾🦾🖤
If you upload 4K on RUclips, it will give better / less compression and push the 4K TV stream. So that is why hitting the 4K mark is so important. - at least on RUclips.
Question on OOPS for super scaling reframed 360 video. Would you reframe with KartaVR and output the flat ProRes video first, and then bring this into a new timeline to use Resolve Superscale on this... or is there a more efficient way to both reframe and superscale the video all in one timeline? I think this has to be done in 2 parts (for example, reframing with KartaVR we have to stretch to corners in the timeline and it's center for superscale) but wanted to check with the expert first! LOVE all your videos!
I just realized that you can reframe and edit in 1080 in Resolve, and then set your timeline Output to use SuperScale and whatever resolution you choose. That would seem to answer my question and combine both processes without having to render twice.
With regards to Banding. You said that if you use the standard VR sharpness in Adobe Premiere Pro and 10-bit files, then Banding will be present, and if you use the boris fx continuum VR sharpness, this will help avoid banding. I was very upset by this fact, as I made more than 2 thousand VR files using the standard VR sharpness in Adobe Premiere Pro and decided to do a test and compare. I took the prores files of 10 bits from the QooCam 8K camera and made the export of the example with the sharpness of stnstandard and using the sharpness of boris fx continuum .I didn't see much difference between the two types of sharpness.Maybe I'm doing something wrong? I would appreciate an explanation.Thanks.
So all I am saying the Immersive Video effects are not 10-bit - only 8-bit. So in color management, render from there will all be down to 8-bit. You don't see banding unless to OVER color grade your footage. So if you color it first, it won't be a huge problem. But most people bounce the edit to Resolve to color - then will be a problem as render from Premiere after immersive effects are 8-bit not 10-bit. So when you push, let say contrast, banding show up faster than 10-bit media. So it is more a workflow thing - don't apply any immersive effects if we need the color data for VFX or color - if so, use BorisFX instead or just skip Premiere and go straight into Resolve. Premiere is not design for 10-bit+ media workflow in VR - not yet. They are working on it tho so need to give them that credit. Can be an easy update fixes. Again post on their fourm to get them aware this problem is important.
@@hughhou Thanks for the reply. Do I understand correctly that the use of Lumetri Color in Adobe Premiere Pro 2020 is the reason for the appearance of banding in the final video after export, because it is not designed to work with 10-bit color and is immersive effects? Please specify what you meant: "You don't see banding unless to OVER color grade your footage." I don't work in DaVinci Resolve and do all the color correction with Adobe Premiere Pro tools. Maybe the banding appears because I use such effects to remove the tripod, such as: GoProVRP Horison, Crop, Horizontal flip? How do you advise me to do the svyo process to avoid banding? Do the color correction prores 10 bit in Adobe Premiere Pro, then export again to prores 10 bit and then import again and already delete the tripod and export to H264?
Dear Hugh, thanks for your effort! I tried exporting mov from insta360 studio, process it in Video Enhance AI 2.6.4 and I have a black hole at the bottom and on the top. Tried following your instruction for Davinci Resolve Studio 18 and got some stitch line in the bottom. Do you have any advice for this stitching issue? Thanks
You did not even explain how to use Topaz to upscale to 8k. I spent 8 hours upscaling and to find that it was not proper 8K 360 output. It got stuck at flat, I cant get 360 video out of 76GB prores!
I encounter a bit of a problem with Topaz. When I import a 360 clip and upscale it, I can't seem to be able to read it as a 360 video anymore (if I just launch it in VLC or in Premiere). I'm sure it's just some dumb detail that I forgot but finding the answer would be a lifesaver. (I use the 2.3.0 version) Cheers !
Resolve can totally do that. In fact the 360reframe Ultra tutorial here I am using Super scale to get better reframe video for 5.7K footage. Superscale X4 up and down. So if I zoom in way closer passing 5.7K - I get superscale to handling the scaling for me: ruclips.net/video/CWw2DaXC7OU/видео.html
I tried to upscale insta one x2 5.7k to 8K in Resolve studio with my gtx 1060 6GB vram, unfortunately the resolve keep failing to render, saying GPU memory full. So not possible with such graphic card?
Are you watching it in 4K display? So RUclips compression might mess up the comparison. But if you look closely, the "sharper" result are all digital sharpen with lots of compression artifacts and pixelized line. See the 300% face zoom in if that help. The "blurry" version 4K is upscale without any post sharpening and gains added - a more nature capture should capture (like the GoPro without sharpen turn on). The problem of all action camera is the digital sharpen done in camera make it a low quality look. All the 4K footage is straight out of AI upscale without sharpening. So we can do it in a dedicated tool. If you follow the full tutorial, you see the final step is sharpening. Using those workflow will have better sharpen result - you sharpen the image details instead of noises. That is why looking at it in a distance - 4K look softer - but good soft. As it is what it need for post sharpening. I hope that makes sense.
@@hughhou I sent a request to Topaz Labs and am waiting for a response. I found a workaround by exporting as tiff and then cropping and sharpening in lightroom classic, but that is a lot of work and I have no formal training in this stuff. It also leaves a slight stitch line.
I figured it out and am not sure if it is lack of knowledge or a bug, but here is the fix if anyone runs into this problem. Set output to Custom Setting, turn off lock output size, set scale to 1.333 and then turn lock output size back on. I failed to turn lock output size back on and this resulted in top and bottom black bars. There is a faint stitch line in one section of the sky, but acceptable for me as an amateur. I can confirm that this works in Topaz Video Enhance AI 2.2 and 2.4. I tried several models, but Proteus 6-Parameter seems so give me the best results in version 2.4.
Please tell me if this an acceptable workflow. Output pro res from Insta360 Studio. Edit clip, remove drone, color grade/add LUT and run spherical stabilizer in Davinci Resolve and process. Start a new project when done and remove noise and reprocess. Upscale in Topaz and then sharpen in resolve and process. With the video card shortage I am stuck with an RTX2060 and have to break up processing to avoid errors. Do you have to track forward and let it finish with spherical stabilizer in resolve or will processing achieve the same result?
I think its better to invest in a pc with great specs (i9, 128gb ram and rtx 3090) than investing in high tech expensive gear based on the ai development. I am happy that i have chosen for a beefy machine. Editing high tech 5.7k/8k or above video on a budget pc sucks big time. Time is money ;-)
Are you watching it in 4K display? So RUclips compression might mess up the comparison. But if you look closely, the "sharper" result are all digital sharpen with lots of compression artifacts and pixelized line. See the 300% face zoom in if that help. The "blurry" version 4K is upscale without any post sharpening and gains added - a more nature capture should capture (like the GoPro without sharpen turn on). The problem of all action camera is the digital sharpen done in camera make it a low quality look. All the 4K footage is straight out of AI upscale without sharpening. So we can do it in a dedicated tool. If you follow the full tutorial, you see the final step is sharpening. Using those workflow will have better sharpen result - you sharpen the image details instead of noises. That is why looking at it in a distance - 4K look softer - but good soft. As it is what it need for post sharpening. I hope that makes sense.
@@hughhou I'm watching in 4k on a large monitor. yes the edges are sharp, but surfaces don't look good. If you look at the wicker chair behind her at 3:25 it's very hazy. The contrast has gone in the dark bushes. Also her face looks artificial in the Topaz one, like a painting. Maybe it has other settings that would reduce those things.
Topaz labs so not worth it. I got it for 85 bucks on black friday, and man I couldn't be so disappointed in it. I can't believe they said they made it faster lmao this thing is slow, one hour per minute of video. And after 3 hours one of the clips didn't export properly I almost passed out laughing smh
Nice video again Hugh! I have been using topaz video enhance ai for a while to upscale my drone and 360-footage to 8K. I love it. Its my big secret as a lot of people dont know about it.
Lol - ops! Now I revived your secrets :( It is really good - just super SLOWWWWWW... My other AI way is actually faster but not as good.
@@hughhou As a 360-goeroe i am not surprised that you discovered enhance ai as a useful tool for upscaling 360 footage haha. I mostly do my upscaling during night as it indeed can take a while to get a 8k output res. Last week i even upscaled a 3,5 hours video to 8k with enhance ai. It took a full night but fortunately i was sleeping 😁 But i am happy the latest versions of enhance ai are faster. In 2020 upscalling with enhance ai took forever
@@ChristiaanRoest79 So you're I can take the shit footage of Max and X2 and make it look good using Topaz?
That Davici footage looks so much better. The Topaz seems to add a glow and horrible unnatural smoothing to everything.
Always resourceful, always helpful. 🔥🔥🔥
Thanks 🙏🏼
7:20 I like the Da Vinci Resolve Super Scale better because it is closer to the original file. Though Topaz Video Enhance AI is certainly a good use for clearing up skin blemishes, it also creates a dreamy, cloudy, less detailed look over the entire video.
agreed. topaz makes video looks more like painting
@@tvbox1219
I'm glad I'm not the only one that thinks it's not perfect. :D
Does Topaz Video Enhancer upscale 360 video from Insta360 One X2 ? My attempts to upscale just create the flat video.
Hello Hugh! Thank you for this cool video! I have an Insta360 One X2, and this leads me to a question: in terms of maxing out quality and smoothness is it better to shoot 5.7K@30FPS & upscale with Topaz to 8K@30FPS, or will it be better to go 4K@50FPS & upscale with Topaz to 8K@50FPS ?
I personally suggest 4K@50fps - upscale is easier than upframerate to avoid artifacts. There will be artifacts still on Video Enhance AI - it is not officially support 360 or VR video as there is no sphereical AI model - so that is why I have not make a tutorial yet. But 4K@50fps is faster and better result if that is the route you go. My snowboarding video tho it is 6K30fps - but the post is a pain in the butt.... after I went tho it, I won't recommand to anyone for the pains..
@@hughhou The one pain I noticed currently, is that upscale is extremely expensive in terms of performance. As you said in 360VR video you have to give time for the audience to adapt to the view - this means longer footage >20 sec, and this means more frames to upscale. An this means many-many hours of processing. I use a dedicated AMD Radeon Pro 580 (Blackmagic eGPU), and it spent around 20 hours on 10 videos ~30-40sec each. And it got so hot, I'm worried it can melt in the process :)
Great video as always Hugh 🍻
Thank you! Cheers!
Cam the same process be applied for exports done with the Insta360 app? I much rather prefer using my phone for directing than a PC. I get 2160 exports using Stories so what could this process get those exports up to?
Awesome job as usual. Your the king of 360. And a really good teacher.
Have one question: what’s the process if i want to upscale from OnX2 to max resolution on my Quest2. I’m using da Vinci studio 17 and if I follow your tips, I need to double 5.7k with 2x upscale settings. Output will be too much for quest 2 😅. Any advices/process to upscale from 5.7K to 8K ? Thanks 😇
Yes, use the 2X upscale setting - then bring in the DNxHR file and let Resolve downscale for you. So essentially you have a bigger file. You tend proxy and edit the video file - do color and denoising - then at the end - render for Quest 2 in 8K output in H.265. So upscale is creating a "higher" resolution file for EDITING in DNxHR. But the final render should be HEVC in 8K max for Quest. Like if you shoot with Titan in 11K, we only render out 8K for Quest but the resolution and quality is so much better than shot just in 8K and render 8K if that make sense.
Would this apply to the quest 3 now?
Thank you for the video.As always, very informative and useful. Please tell me about your new Sony Alpha 1 camera,how are things with overheating in 8k resolution? Very little information at the moment,I saw in one review that the maximum shooting time in 8k is about 15 minutes and then it turns off. If so, how long after the camera cools down can I use it again? Will there be a video review on it?
I never have overheat issue on 8K video but I did not shoot in 15 more min so... more test is coming.
@@hughhou Thanks for the quick response. If it doesn't bother you, please test it and let me know.
Topaz take 3 hours for a 2min 50sec clip on my m1 16gb air 😮 do you think resolve is faster? Ok 10x faster lol thank you!!!!
Hello, do you use first Premiere for editing single clips to one video then enhancing the whole thing in Topaz or the other way round? - First enhance all the single clips with Topaz then editing all in Premiere? Thx B
I edit first and then enhance. As Enhance will big the resolution or frame rate higher - so more stress on your PC / Mac. Also you only want to use Topaz on necessary frames - as the render per frame is usually really slow even you have RTX3090
Great job Hugh but the tools are a little too expensive
Yes they are. Resolve is kinda free tho if you have the studio version already. I will continue try free solution and with follow up tutorial.
@@hughhou THX very much for your job you're my best RUclipsr
Hi Hugh. You upscale your 5.7k video to 8k with video enhanced AI. But do you have the stitching done at the end of the job or do you use Mistika VR to get it?
I stitch in Mistika first and then use video enhance AI - the new update do not create stitch line so it is good to go. Check my latest video - all done in Topaz: ruclips.net/video/WIFRYfv1w60/видео.html
@@hughhou
Thank you for your quick response. Too bad Mistika VR is so expensive. I can't afford this kind of software just for leisure and not for professional use.
So the best thing is to switch to a qoocam 8k camera.
Hi Hugh. I tried upscaling insta 360 onex 5.7k to 8k. First i exported the raw footage from insta 360 studio. Then i uploaded to topaz video enhance ai and exported it, settings- proteus fine tune, 8k, prores h22. It exported well. The problem is when i copied the file to Oculus quest 2, the file wont play the 8k file (does oculus play prores h22 files?) Please help.
You need to render out ProRes from Topaz and recode it in NLE into H265 or H264
Even if you have Da Vinci Resolve, do you recommend purchasing Video Environment AI?
I assumed the video would have answered this but it did not. seems like this should have been the purpose of this video
From your side by side comparisons, the original 1440p was either about the same or clearly sharper and more detailed than the upscaled 4K side. Maybe you had them mislabeled?
Are you watching it in 4K display? So RUclips compression might mess up the comparison. But if you look closely, the "clearly sharper" result are all digital sharpen with lots of compression artifacts and pixelized line. See the 300% face zoom in if that help. The "blurry" version 4K is upscale without any post sharpening and gains added - a more nature capture should capture (like the GoPro without sharpen turn on). The problem of all action camera is the digital sharpen done in camera make it a low quality look. All the 4K footage is straight out of AI upscale without sharpening. So we can do it in a dedicated tool. If you follow the full tutorial, you see the final step is sharpening. Using those workflow will have better sharpen result - you sharpen the image details instead of noises. That is why looking at it in a distance - 4K look softer - but good soft. As it is what it need for post sharpening.
@@hughhou I'm watching this on my phone at 1440p resolution. Unfortunately I don't have a 4K display at this time. The side by side comparison that particularly stood out to me was at around the 3:25 mark in this video. I compared the look of about ten different areas and the original 1440p side looked much sharper, more detailed and overall much better than the upscaled 4K side. I mostly shoot my videos for my vlogs with an Insta 360 One R and save them in either 4K or 2.7K resolution at 60fps, but generally upscale them into 4K using MovAvi. Can't really have anything to complain about when it comes to quality.
Looking forward to a time when Insta 360 comes out with an 8K 360 camera!
@@hughhou Hi Hugh I'm watching on a 34 inch 4K screen with RUclips at highest setting and to my eye like others have commented the upscaled version appears "Blurry" The side by side comparison I would pick the 1440p as looking more detailed , and sharper. Why go to all the trouble of upscaling if its not going to make a great difference , in this case it appears worse watching the comparison. Thankyou for your videos very informative keep up the good work.
Hugh, have you tried processing your Qoocam footage with Topaz? I run it though with Artemis HQ at 100% denoise/deblock and the footage seems improved to my amateur eye. I tried upscaling the 8k to 12k as a test, but the process failed as stated by Topaz labs documentation.
What settings do you use for 360 > 8K? Anything I export doesn’t playback on my Quest 2
Can topaz video enhance AI work for vr180 3d?
Yes
Thanks very much, very interesting. I've never used Resolve before but will take a look. Does Resolve recognise 360 footage as such, or is there a step to specify this? Also I read that Topaz Video Enhance doesn't work with 3080 cards.
Yes, you should check out this resolve series tutorial on VR editing: ruclips.net/video/xlOhluai5mk/видео.html
I have Davinci and didn’t know I could do this. However, I have a question. What will be the proper order to superscale a video to 4k and also use optical flow for slow motion of a 30p clip? Would the order to execute this matter? Thanks.
Slow motion optical first
Thank you very much Hugh!!!!! Life Saver!!!!
Glad it helped!
These are honestly the missing link with 360 overcapture footage. Finally looking better with these tools. Now we just need youtube to update their terrible compression 🦾🦾🖤
Exactly 👍
If you upload 4K on RUclips, it will give better / less compression and push the 4K TV stream. So that is why hitting the 4K mark is so important. - at least on RUclips.
So I have to move to Resolve 17... THANKS Hugh 👍
Haha you should! But I have a Premiere tutorial coming next.
Hugh I'm just a hobbyist, not a professional like you so, I use PowerDirector 360 and believe me, it's a very good one for what I do. 😎
Question on OOPS for super scaling reframed 360 video. Would you reframe with KartaVR and output the flat ProRes video first, and then bring this into a new timeline to use Resolve Superscale on this... or is there a more efficient way to both reframe and superscale the video all in one timeline? I think this has to be done in 2 parts (for example, reframing with KartaVR we have to stretch to corners in the timeline and it's center for superscale) but wanted to check with the expert first!
LOVE all your videos!
I just realized that you can reframe and edit in 1080 in Resolve, and then set your timeline Output to use SuperScale and whatever resolution you choose. That would seem to answer my question and combine both processes without having to render twice.
NIce!!!
Always a great job, so easy to use.
Glad you think so!
With regards to Banding. You said that if you use the standard VR sharpness in Adobe Premiere Pro and 10-bit files, then Banding will be present, and if you use the boris fx continuum VR sharpness, this will help avoid banding. I was very upset by this fact, as I made more than 2 thousand VR files using the standard VR sharpness in Adobe Premiere Pro and decided to do a test and compare. I took the prores files of 10 bits from the QooCam 8K camera and made the export of the example with the sharpness of stnstandard and using the sharpness of boris fx continuum .I didn't see much difference between the two types of sharpness.Maybe I'm doing something wrong? I would appreciate an explanation.Thanks.
So all I am saying the Immersive Video effects are not 10-bit - only 8-bit. So in color management, render from there will all be down to 8-bit. You don't see banding unless to OVER color grade your footage. So if you color it first, it won't be a huge problem. But most people bounce the edit to Resolve to color - then will be a problem as render from Premiere after immersive effects are 8-bit not 10-bit. So when you push, let say contrast, banding show up faster than 10-bit media. So it is more a workflow thing - don't apply any immersive effects if we need the color data for VFX or color - if so, use BorisFX instead or just skip Premiere and go straight into Resolve. Premiere is not design for 10-bit+ media workflow in VR - not yet. They are working on it tho so need to give them that credit. Can be an easy update fixes. Again post on their fourm to get them aware this problem is important.
@@hughhou Thanks for the reply. Do I understand correctly that the use of Lumetri Color in Adobe Premiere Pro 2020 is the reason for the appearance of banding in the final video after export, because it is not designed to work with 10-bit color and is immersive effects? Please specify what you meant: "You don't see banding unless to OVER color grade your footage." I don't work in DaVinci Resolve and do all the color correction with Adobe Premiere Pro tools. Maybe the banding appears because I use such effects to remove the tripod, such as: GoProVRP Horison, Crop, Horizontal flip? How do you advise me to do the svyo process to avoid banding? Do the color correction prores 10 bit in Adobe Premiere Pro, then export again to prores 10 bit and then import again and already delete the tripod and export to H264?
讲述很好👍！拍摄很精彩！
Thanks bro
Any time
Dear Hugh, thanks for your effort! I tried exporting mov from insta360 studio, process it in Video Enhance AI 2.6.4 and I have a black hole at the bottom and on the top. Tried following your instruction for Davinci Resolve Studio 18 and got some stitch line in the bottom. Do you have any advice for this stitching issue? Thanks
You did not even explain how to use Topaz to upscale to 8k. I spent 8 hours upscaling and to find that it was not proper 8K 360 output. It got stuck at flat, I cant get 360 video out of 76GB prores!
I will make a dedicated tutorial on that!
Cool channel. I love your reviews and tips. Thanks for sharing. God bless.
Glad you like them!
I encounter a bit of a problem with Topaz. When I import a 360 clip and upscale it, I can't seem to be able to read it as a 360 video anymore (if I just launch it in VLC or in Premiere). I'm sure it's just some dumb detail that I forgot but finding the answer would be a lifesaver. (I use the 2.3.0 version)
Cheers !
Download Spatial Media Metadata Injector, make sure spherical(360) is checked and inject the movie and it will then work.
Oh yeah! I was waiting for such a video! Very interesting! Thank!
Glad you liked it!
Is it possible to Upscale 360 Video with resolve, or is it only Topaz that can do that and keep the 360 metadata ?
Resolve can totally do that. In fact the 360reframe Ultra tutorial here I am using Super scale to get better reframe video for 5.7K footage. Superscale X4 up and down. So if I zoom in way closer passing 5.7K - I get superscale to handling the scaling for me: ruclips.net/video/CWw2DaXC7OU/видео.html
I tried to upscale insta one x2 5.7k to 8K in Resolve studio with my gtx 1060 6GB vram, unfortunately the resolve keep failing to render, saying GPU memory full. So not possible with such graphic card?
You might need 2080 - VRAM is full - or external GPU
@@hughhou thanks, wow, you give me an idea about external gpu, thanks
@@hughhou it is difficult to find laptop gpu ram that is more than 6GB, with 2080 does it need more than 6gb vram also for 8k editing?
Nice nice but in the social media world even full hd is more than good enough.
I doesn't look better than the others.. looks to me more blurier less details...
Are you watching it in 4K display? So RUclips compression might mess up the comparison. But if you look closely, the "sharper" result are all digital sharpen with lots of compression artifacts and pixelized line. See the 300% face zoom in if that help. The "blurry" version 4K is upscale without any post sharpening and gains added - a more nature capture should capture (like the GoPro without sharpen turn on). The problem of all action camera is the digital sharpen done in camera make it a low quality look. All the 4K footage is straight out of AI upscale without sharpening. So we can do it in a dedicated tool. If you follow the full tutorial, you see the final step is sharpening. Using those workflow will have better sharpen result - you sharpen the image details instead of noises. That is why looking at it in a distance - 4K look softer - but good soft. As it is what it need for post sharpening. I hope that makes sense.
1080 120fps to 4k 120fps possible ?
Yes now it is possible with the new update.
@@hughhou Thanks bro .
Topaz 2.4 does not work for me as it leaves black bars at the top and bottom.
Really? Let me test it.
@@hughhou I sent a request to Topaz Labs and am waiting for a response. I found a workaround by exporting as tiff and then cropping and sharpening in lightroom classic, but that is a lot of work and I have no formal training in this stuff. It also leaves a slight stitch line.
I figured it out and am not sure if it is lack of knowledge or a bug, but here is the fix if anyone runs into this problem. Set output to Custom Setting, turn off lock output size, set scale to 1.333 and then turn lock output size back on. I failed to turn lock output size back on and this resulted in top and bottom black bars. There is a faint stitch line in one section of the sky, but acceptable for me as an amateur. I can confirm that this works in Topaz Video Enhance AI 2.2 and 2.4. I tried several models, but Proteus 6-Parameter seems so give me the best results in version 2.4.
Please tell me if this an acceptable workflow. Output pro res from Insta360 Studio. Edit clip, remove drone, color grade/add LUT and run spherical stabilizer in Davinci Resolve and process. Start a new project when done and remove noise and reprocess. Upscale in Topaz and then sharpen in resolve and process. With the video card shortage I am stuck with an RTX2060 and have to break up processing to avoid errors. Do you have to track forward and let it finish with spherical stabilizer in resolve or will processing achieve the same result?
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super scaling in resolve completely kills my computer and i can't export anything lol. i need a better GPU.
Resolve need GPU or eGPU in general.
@@hughhou ya my gtx1060 6gb can't handle it anymore. I need an rtx3060 but can't get one.
I think its better to invest in a pc with great specs (i9, 128gb ram and rtx 3090) than investing in high tech expensive gear based on the ai development. I am happy that i have chosen for a beefy machine. Editing high tech 5.7k/8k or above video on a budget pc sucks big time. Time is money ;-)
1440 looks better and sharper
Thank you for the feedback!
Topaz looks worse to me in all cases. Hazing over the shadows like a soft focus filter, and an unnatural paintily quality to faces.
Are you watching it in 4K display? So RUclips compression might mess up the comparison. But if you look closely, the "sharper" result are all digital sharpen with lots of compression artifacts and pixelized line. See the 300% face zoom in if that help. The "blurry" version 4K is upscale without any post sharpening and gains added - a more nature capture should capture (like the GoPro without sharpen turn on). The problem of all action camera is the digital sharpen done in camera make it a low quality look. All the 4K footage is straight out of AI upscale without sharpening. So we can do it in a dedicated tool. If you follow the full tutorial, you see the final step is sharpening. Using those workflow will have better sharpen result - you sharpen the image details instead of noises. That is why looking at it in a distance - 4K look softer - but good soft. As it is what it need for post sharpening. I hope that makes sense.
@@hughhou I'm watching in 4k on a large monitor. yes the edges are sharp, but surfaces don't look good. If you look at the wicker chair behind her at 3:25 it's very hazy. The contrast has gone in the dark bushes. Also her face looks artificial in the Topaz one, like a painting. Maybe it has other settings that would reduce those things.
Topaz labs so not worth it. I got it for 85 bucks on black friday, and man I couldn't be so disappointed in it. I can't believe they said they made it faster lmao this thing is slow, one hour per minute of video. And after 3 hours one of the clips didn't export properly I almost passed out laughing smh
It does have lots of issue in current version - but I hope an update is fixing it.
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my original file is 5.7K but faces were shot too far. I tried to use topaz but it didn't work good for this file.