Hardtail Vise Ep.13: Swivel Bolt Finished in the CNC Mill
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- Опубликовано: 28 ноя 2024
- We continue with the second setup for the new swivel bolt using our @MilltronicsUSAInc TRM 3016 cnc mill. Instead of milling a slot in the face I decided to use a 5/8" hex instead. We'll put the finishing touches on the bolt to finish this little project out. Another fun and educational part that I learned how to draw in Fusion 360 then machine.
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What’s the difference between a amateur and a professional?
The amateur does a task until he gets it right.
The professional does the task until he can’t get it wrong.
I appreciate Adam’s commitment to perfection.
Post production suggestion. When using the cnc machines, put the fusion 360 tool path simulation as a picture-in-picture overlay in the top left. That way we know what the tool is doing even when obscured by coolant. Just play with the camera in fusion so we are viewing the same angle as the camera when possible.
Seems the DJI action 4 is the better camera system now. Lots of Y Tubers switching away from GoPro
@@cbattman hmmm have to look that cam (DJI) up...thanks
How do we purchase one of these from you
@@cbattman IMHO, not as good as one would be inclined to believe...easy comparative research after reading your comment...sticking with gopro7 lol
I know that simple happiness of getting a program right on the first try. CAD/CAM is a steep learning curve, with tons of stumbles along the way. The first time you really nail it on the computer with a (relatively) complex part, and then watch as everything goes like you planned on the machine is such a nice feeling, and it really adds a lot to your confidence going forward.
Great fun to watch, as always. The video quality is excellent, and the narrative engaging. Thanks!
It's pretty satisfying when a CNC program works out the way you planned and you can just crank out parts!
It's so awesome to see the progress and determination you have to learn and use the CNC machines. You're the man!
I'm enjoying this project very much. It was great fun seeing that shaper carve that big casting to final dimensions. I also enjoyed seeing the K&T mill in operation with those big extension sockets. Now the CNC mill adds the 5/8 Allen wrench socket. Great work all around, and classic Adam Booth fit and finish. More of this, please, and thanks for the great video work.
Born in '42, this looks like magic. Having done machinist work, durn, Adam, you did a bunch of learning.
I am also glad to see him so confident and proficient on this - he has learned very quickly. There is a place for manual machining still for sure, and he comes from that world of man, machine, tools, metal and oil. It's good to see he hasn't been left behind by the current state of the art!
Love the Hardtail vise series... especially when you use the shaper.
Idea for your spare swivel Bolts. The practice ones would be a great coat rack fixture. Just an idea...😂
Yes! Right beside the door. Collaborate with a woodworker RUclipsr for the backer, and give the bolts a coat of lacquer to prevent rust.
Im not a machinist or cnc operator, but i respect how far you have come. I check in every once in a while and you have come a long way man. Very inspirational, love the content.
I would like a swivel bolt as an addition... You are correct... it works just fine but an Abom79 addition would make it better!
Thank you Adam! I am looking forward to the 2024 videos and projects. Thank you again
love the way your doing this ,showing use the fusion program first and then the milling.
❤ Very good part to learn on.
Enjoying the series.
Again another great explanation of new processes, CNC has been around and my grandson is working for a CNC company, at 18 he loves it and looks forward to going to work.
Congrats on a successful first run part. I feel your confidence building. Looks like you have some nice paper weights now.
Adam,as a final touch I think you should engrave your logo somewhere on the vice. A “Machined by ABOM79”and the date, to commemorate the finishing of the project. Can’t wait to see the finished product. Have a Great and successful New Year.
I’ve already been kicking that idea around 👍🏻
Ive seen Jason's testing of his vises but that giant bolt with that tiny pitch/dia thread, makes me wince a little.
Adam apply Rain X - 2 in 1glass cleaner to the lens of your camera. This makes the coolant bounce off the glass. WINK!😉👍👍Plus it's great to use it on the inside of your machines glass.
so good seeing you apply your common sense machining approach to cnc. you are going to be excellent at it, and its only the start.
Cnc machines are great for volume production. If it takes a week to write a program to make a piece that could be made manually in an hour, where’s the advantage?
yeh this channel has nothing to do with volume production, its about making interesting videos, and that it does well.
@@drewmog123456 You can write a program quicker (in most cases) than you can mess around manual machining, I do both. Alot of programs can be manually typed very quick if they aren't real complicated like this one. I'm sad he's not showing the Gcode. It would be so easy to edit this gcode to fine tune it. Alot of the new Cnc crowd don't look at the gcode, they are missing alot by doing that.
@@drewmog123456Won’t take a week with experience. More like two hours. A severe disadvantage for one part but a huge advantage for multiple parts.
@@ellieprice363 yes, but Adam doesn’t do quantity. He is now trying effectively to get a computer to imitate what he does best by hand. I look back at his videos from years ago which were absolutely amazing. Just think what his CNC machine must have cost!
Great content, as always. Thank you Adam.
Thanks for demonstrating this beautifully machined part for your big vise. For production I suggest a two hole spanner pattern on the face of the part instead of the awkward screwdriver slot that’s likely to slip. Two .3135 holes 1/2 inch deep about 1 5/8 apart would be perfect for tightening and loosening.
Great artists never stop learning. ❤️
I was a machinist both manual and nc and cnc and I think you are doing an excellent job keep learning it was always fun for me to see what I achieved
What I do when testing a new program is I find where the machine tells you the Distance To Go, i.e. how much in each direction it has left in its current move. This way, I can stop the tool a 1/4 to an 1/8" above the part, and if the control says it has 0.098" to move in Z, I know its probably not gonna crash.
Also, Titans of CNC have figured out a decent way of getting CNC footage, they might be able to help you out.
You and fireball are my favorite machinist sites outstanding work.
I am really enjoying watching you learning the cnc. I am not a machinist but I will be doing some hobby stuff soon and what I am learning from your vids is what keeps me wanting to learn more.
By an odd coincidence, I did a similar operation last week using a rotary table on my manual mill. I'm making a lathe tailstock die holder for hex-shaped threading dies. I had to cut a one-inch hexagon into the end of a piece of 1.250 inch aluminum round stock. Would have been fun having access to a CNC mill, but I enjoyed the challenge of doing the calculations and operations by hand.
Adam! You look very proud of your work today and you should be! The two programs for the bolt look really good! I look forward to seeing what you work on in years to come!
That hardtail when complete will be a work of art!
Exactly the thing I wanted on New Years day, an Abom79 Video, I hoped you had a great new Year Adam!
Hello from Alaska, awesome video Adam. I myself am a fusion 360 user and a massive fan of Kevin Ellingson. Without Kevin I wouldn’t be we’re Im at today. Keep the amazing videos coming. Love your content.
Only he's fast become the Jeffrey Lord of the channel. Re Anderson Cooper's interview: ' If Trump took a dump on his desk, you'd defend him'.
Nice work. This week I needed a square hole of 8mm in a 16mm rode. I did it almost the same like you. With one difference: I used a first contour, then a chamfer, then a second deeper contour. The endmill had the same diameter as the drill (2mm), so I did go a little bit deeper on the endmill to cover the drill-marks in the bottom.
Congrats Adam. I love the end to end video of the process. Keep learning!
Glad to see the new shop up and running and doing some projects :)
I also like how the outro is the same from when I started watching years ago.
I’d buy one as a paper weight. The finish on those turned out great!
Happy new year and enjoy learning new skills. You are never to old to learn.
Excellent! That is a much more complicated CNC program than the earlier ones you wrote, and it works perfectly.
Hi Adam,
FIRST, I am an avid viewer of your channel and live near Tampa, Florida. Keep up with the GREAT videos you supply to all of us.
Congratulations on your quick advancement into the CNC world, I am a hobbyist machinist with another brand CNC Toolroom Mill with basically the same capabilities of your machine.
I have made several DIY modifications to my CNC Mill that I believe might make a remarkable difference in your CNC videos.
I made an adapter that fits onto the end of the spray coolant nozzle. It is machined to fit over the OEM Coolant nozzle and about .500 offset to the right I drilled a hole i.e. .250 to hold a piece of .250 tubing and using brass compression fitting of the appropriate size and then attached that fitting to some flexible coolant hose of the same size. I then routed the hose to the outside of the CNC enclosure and hooked it up to a manual air foot pedal switch that sits on the floor next the the CNC machine control. You could even get fancy and make some type of coolant ring with multiple nozzles that would mount to your spindle that would provide a 360 air blast to the part being machined. The possibilities are endless.
When I want to blow off the part and remove excess coolant to see what is going on I can just give the foot pedal a quick tap and it will blow off the part. I believe it would help your videos in a positive way.
I went a little further and with a (lot of help) from one of my RUclips CNC buddies I made a device where I could use M codes to turn the coolant off and on and also give programmed air blasts where you could set the duration of the air blast and the frequency of the air blasts. Just having fun in my retirement years. Ha Ha 🙂
@@PaulRyan-po9xc I just visited your channel and found no content.
@@PaulRyan-po9xcSo you have been CNC machining for 30 years yet you choose to watch someone learning CNC so you can comment on how much better you are at it? Gotcha
@@PaulRyan-po9xc I see a few comments have been deleted on this one ( the one about the CNC bar being set low for Adam, for one). And Adam is replying a few times here as well, I wonder if it's coincidental, lol.
When we switched to cnc programming it took us a year to feel comfortable using the programming.
A nice project Adam would be to make a guard for your tool measuring probe on your bed. We had some swarf wrap around and rip the measuring point right off. Time consuming to attach and recalibrate a new one.
I just sit a old Tupperware bowl on top of the (Renishaw Wireless Tool Setter). Just have to remember to remove it when you do any tool setting operations. So far it has served me well. As far at the (Renishaw Wireless Probe) that would be difficult as the probe has the ability to contact the top surface or on any side of the machined part and I would think any guard would be in the way?????? Also getting down into deeper holes or pockets with longer probe tips might??? be an issue. Would love to see a solution if available.
We made a flip down guard with Perspex sides to protect the probe.
This series is great fun watching you branch out can relate to fusion 360 lots there to learn.
Nice touch on the Abom logo 👍🏻. Perfect and beautiful footage, as usual 😉
You’ve come along way with cnc machines, Keep it up Cobber 🍀
Awesome start for 2024! Thanks, Adam! ⭐🙂👍
You are doing so good on those machines.
Those bolts are so cool. You should number them as you make them, so when I buy my vice I know what number I bought.
Keep up the great work Adam.
Great idea on the numbering of the bolts, not like everyones gonna have them in their vise.
He’s only making one for himself.
@@mm9773 you should watch the whole video :)
@8bithack I did watch the hole video. He said he will make a custom nut for you if you want.
I was just saying that lots of knife makers put numbers on them. I like getting parts with numbers. It's cool and exciting to share with you good friends.
Thanks for the comments, Happy New Year's.
@@silvergoldking did it look like I was talking to you? I was commenting at the guy that said "He's only making one for himself."
The probe cycle "Boss" works good for that shape of part. Just a little easier than running two web cycles. Thanks for the videos!
Don't doubt yourself Adam. Your doing great with CNC. Love the CNC content. I've imagined you milling the cast iron mounting surface for your bolt, but to include a Torrington bearing between the underside of the bolt flange and the casting.
Quite interesting experience ahead.Thank you.
Great job. Thank you 😊
Why was the bolt shaft not extended up into the vice. Would be way stronger. One impact with the swivel clamps loose will snap that threaded section right off. Such a powerful vice and that weak link.
Thanks for sharing. Great idea, custom shoulder bolts. Learning new skills is the best investment in yourself.
Very cool Adam - very cool indeed.
Thank you Adam for the commentary. I've learned a lot from this Hardtail vise series. Happy New Year!
Sometimes I would program a second finish pass when dealing with a taper deflection from your endmill. If I had Details I had to hold within a .0005 - that would help clean that problem up. I realize it doesn't matter for the details you were machining, but it's something to remember for future parts.
Happy New Year for you and Abby with a good prospective year to come .
Happy new year! Are you sending some bolts to Jason? I think that the hex bolt just is so much better and feels more quality thing than the simple slot, even when no one will see it after installing it.
The whole point of the Taiwan model is to bring down costs while keeping full functionality and performance. What Jason does for the USA versions TBD - I guess if you're willing to spend +$2K just to say it's "USA Made", you're probably OK spending another $100 on a custom engraved bolt.
Thank you for being honest and open, congratulations on your new skills and please keep on sharing with all of us👍👌🇦🇺
Cameras don't deal with extremes as well as Mk1 eyeballs. Try shifting your lights to brighten the back surfaces of the mill - the left side in particular is very dark. If your camera has a centre-weighted exposure option, that would be worth experimenting with too.
5:00 That is SO cool, to see the stimulation in such detail.
Getting better every day. HAPPY NEW YEAR.
You are like a kid with a new toy and you like to show it off. 😊
Sure as hell wish I could afford a vise this nice.
Gotta love it when a plan, or program, comes together! Happy New Year
Thanks for the show Adam 🍻 🇦🇺
That was fun to watch. Could tell you're happy. Great results. Best wishes for the new year Adam.
You're doing a great job on your programming and cnc
Your shoulder bolt tuned out great. The spiral tool path on the face left a gorgeous finish. What was the cycle time for this side of the part? What was the cycle time for the entire part? When I use the simulate in 360 I'll turn off the model to get a better idea of what the part is gonna look like.
Nice job buddy, Jason WILL be proud of that job, Greetings From the Cayman Islands
That swirl finish is awesome
+1 for the other suggestion in the comments..
put up a PIP while the OP is in progress, in case no one can see whats happening on the camera. you can follow along with the computer sim in the PIP
if you do use the cold LED lights, maybe add a diffuser so you dont blow out the camera
Cnc is very nice, its a different kind of accomplishment feeling than manual machining.
What a professional looking part with bling! Awesome use of your many new tools Adam. Happy New Year!
Really enjoy seeing your progress, Adam. Great stuff man, never stop learning!
Two thumbs up Adam. Huge progress. Happy New Year to you and family
I've seen fireballs videos on this vice and have enjoyed watching a gangster machinist finish these castings the way you are. As soon as I saw the bearing discrepancy a larger shroud on the meatball that has a smaller recess for the smaller bearing came to mind. Now that I know what the plan is I really hope to see a larger meatball complement the mass of this vice! Fingers crossed you are making this giant bench vise as close to a precision mill vice as possible, when it comes to fitting both halves. Bigger meatball means larger shaft, but what about the ball having a precision splined detach so you could employ a crank handle depending on what you're clamping? A support roller bearing in behind the thrust bearing? Keep up the good work, I've learned a ton and can't wait to see the next videos in this vise series!!
Add a spring pass to the inside hex finish.
OUTSTANDING project...really enjoyed it. You've come a long ways, baby since your rotary welding table 9-10 years ago. Your presentation skills and videography skills have all been improving all along the way. You and Mr. Pete have pretty much taught me everything I know about being a machinist....including today's lesson on how to make a hex socket. Thank you and Happy New Year
Two concern/queastions: 1] Does the under-cut by the threads weaken the piece, 2] are the .25 corner holes deeper then the other area?
Just my comment, but if it were me, I would get with Jason and when he begins production of the USA vices, he could include the 3 (or how many extras you make) of the 4140 swivel bolts in the first # of sales at no extra cost. And I would leave the logo on them to signify you made them. It might help initial sales and showcase your skills for potential personal sales. I like the machined swivel bolt over a slotted bolt. Just a thought.
Thanks Adam. Remember, some of us are learning along with you.
You might consider a race car camera mount that has a rotating lens cover with a wiper on it to clear the coolant from your machines.
OK, your first public use of a Renishaw probe! I've always noticed that you take pride in making careful measurements. So, now you have another measuring tool for your toolbox. I've noticed that the machinist on the Edge Precision channel uses both CNC and traditional measuring tools when he makes insanely expensive-looking industrial parts.
Nice progress on the CNC mill.
I have been watching your channel for years. I am very impressed that you set a goal to learn CNC. You stuck with it with great success. Good luck in 2024 and beyond.
Happy New Year to you and your family.
if you appreciate CNC finish patterns you can try to do facing helical pass with less stepover. not for material removal but for the look.
when i do final pass on CNC i often change strategy from boring facing pass to something that gives cool finish pattern.
If you do intend to further refine the program here are a few things you might like to look into. The changes won't make the process as efficient as it could be, but probably save around 30% on the cycle time.
I would drill an extra hole in the centre with the 3/16 drill. This will allow the 1/4 end mill to feed in much faster without excessive wear at the end of the cutter.
OR, drill a 3/8 hole.
OR, just drill a 19/32 hole & finish the profile with a 3/16 cutter then plunge the corner reliefs @ 0.47 pcd. The maximum radial depth of cut would only be 0.045" without a finish pass.
I would look at engraving with the chamfer tool. They are available with a 90 degree point and will give a finer clearer line. The centre drill has a 118 degree point. Also one less tool.
If you are prepared to lose the spiral finish for faster production.
Face off to length with a 2" 45 degree high shear face mill with square inserts. Then use the inside of the inserts to chamfer the top. This will reduce the head diameter chamfer toolpath by over 80%.
I would have concerns with the hard jaws marking the precise journal. Maybe soft jaws or a simple thin split bush.
Check with Fireball before you start selling upgraded copies of their product.
Love watching your videos bro. Also really like your humility as we learn with you on the CNC content. Awesome job man.
I'm pleased as I'm sure others are, that you've figured out a way to show the progress of the CNC machine through the process of making the part. When you first got the machine, I was thinking you'd get enthralled with the machine and just show "whole process" videos. Which would be understandable. But CNC processes, even though they are astounding in their way, are often kind of boring when compared to watching you proceed through the steps one by one with manual machining. Well done, Adam!
Happy new year! Thank you for bringing this project to us. I am really loving this vise build. Is this going to be the most precise bench vise on you tube? Very likely! Can’t wait to see it operating.
Well looks like you can add the title of programmer to your resume now! Good for you for continuing to learn. I've spent 40 years in statistical analysis, and continuing to learn is the best (and most challenging) part of the job. You should be proud. 😊
Been loving the vise series. I've followed the hardtail vise from prototyping on Fireball Tools channel.
Most excellent and really interesting.
One of those cold blued and recut the engraving and chamfer would be beautiful
Awesome job Adam
What an amazing machine you have there
Gotta love the water based coolants..........
Bonjour, Bonne année à vous et votre equipe de l'Alsace en France !
Love it so much keep it up as always 💘
So much work for a bolt. Michining is far more complex then academics would suggest