Classroom Management Strategies To Take Control Of Noisy Students
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- Опубликовано: 20 янв 2013
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This video explains a little-used, often-forgotten but very effective classroom management strategy for taking control of really tough groups of students right at the start of lessons. This Classroom Management method is for really challenging, noisy groups that take ages to settle, cost you a lot of time and cause you a lot of stress and frustration.
You'll learn WHY some noisy groups of students take longer than others to settle down and HOW to get them in a state where they are more likely to stop talking and listen to you so that they enter your classroom on YOUR terms.
Here's the link: needsfocusedteaching.com/video
Here's the deal. I am 100% with you, but in our country students go into the class first and they continue their bad behaviour even when teacher arrives. We don't have the opportunity to fix this behaviour before going in the class because children are already inside and most of the times we find them jumping on top of their desks. 2 times i told them to go all together out and go back in calmly, but this didn't work because they saw it as a game and they continue the bad behaviour just to go outside the classroom again. So what do you think for classrooms like that?
Nikos, when I read this I can hear your frustration. You feel this technique/methodology won't work because the children are already in the classroom and when you send them all out they think it's a game.
OK, three things:
1. If kids are out of control in a classroom they shouldn't be in the classroom. So you are right to take them out and have them line up again until they enter the room in an orderly manner.
2. They will think it's a game if they think they're wasting YOUR time rather than their own.
And 3: Not all the class members will be out of control in this way.
So.... taking 2 and 3 a little further:
Make sure you bring those students who treat this as a game back to practice lining up sensibly during their break time. If they spend 15 minutes messing you around at the start of the lesson, they owe you 15 minutes of their break to practice being sensible. If you are diligent in following up with these students and ensuring they pay back the time they owe, they will quickly see you mean business and won't want to lose their break in future. And if you do this in a firm but friendly manner - carefully explaining that this is for their benefit in the long run, they will grow to respect you all the more.
Reading this and thinking 'he hasn't taught in my school with my kids, this will never work'? Believe me, this works.
But here's the most important bit and most struggling teachers miss this...Remember that not all students in a class like this want to waste your time. They get caught up with the group and with minimal instruction and fair treatment they will do as you ask. Be sure to acknowledge and praise those students who follow the rules. By switching your attention to those who do the right thing - giving them positive attention, you'll find the whole atmosphere will change with this group and more and more students will come on side. I would say this is actually the secret to success with this group - switch your approach to looking out for the good rather than focussing on the bad. Kids want to be valued and understood above all. Usually their behaviour is a cry for attention and help. Give it to them and watch them change.
@@needsfocusedlessons Thank you so much for your time. I really appreciate it, you are a wonderful person!
@@nikosefthymiou6499 My pleasure
@@needsfocusedlessons You are dealing with ideal situation in our schools we faced the students already have a mind map like they are inside a room with their own behaviors and only confrontational statements work as they most of the time take you for granted and all your efforts were useless and no matter what you do the class is not going to change .I applied your strategy in class focusing on those who were taking interest but half of the class was least interested .
@@nadiasajjad6604 I'm not totally clear on what you are saying I'm afraid. Am I correct in thinking you feel that no matter what you do or say, the class is not going to change? If so I totally understand how you feel; it is incredibly frustrating when our efforts seem to make no difference. All I will say in response to that is that our best efforts, applied in a sincere manner from a foundation of wanting what is best for these children, most certainly DO make a difference. We might not always see our efforts repaid straight away, we might not see positive changes for days or even weeks in some cases but... with consistency they will come. And when they show even the slightest glimmer of improvement, that is the time to acknowledge them and show them you've noticed. I do hope I don't appear patronising because I do truly understand how difficult this is. But I also know, having been on the receiving end as a child, parent and teacher, the ONLY way to help make a difference with these tough, hardest-to-reach kids is to show them you care about them, try to understand them and convince them that they matter.
Early in my teaching career, someone told me: “Catch kids doing good.” Reinforce positive behavior by giving it your attention.
What about when they do wrong? Why do you think crime among the under 21s is so high, partly weak parents, largely weak teachers that do not discipline. I am now a teacher I started by teaching my own kids, they needed a good start in life that does not include someone that is weak as a teacher, weakness is why our society is in such a bad way, sorry but you are not a good teacher, I have a 1 year waiting list of students wanting lessons with me try discipline, maybe you can get $40 an hour like I do, if you would like some advice drop me a line I will help you.
There are good arguments against "catching kids doing good," but Paul's comments seem way off base to me.
Why? How so?
Let's consider what he wrote.
"What about when they do wrong?"
Good question. I think the best answer is a couple other questions:
1. How do we define "wrong"?
Is it natural high-spiritedness? Is it asking questions we the teachers don't want to hear because they are not convenient for us or because we fail to see the important or value of them? Is it following a natural urge to explore social relationships when the teacher wants the students to be good little robots focused on academics? Other?
2. Why are they doing "wrong"?
Are they bored because the teacher is not engaging them or challenging them properly? Do they have an unfulfilled emotional need for attention? Other?
"Why do you think crime among the under 21s is so high, partly weak parents, largely weak teachers that do not discipline."
This ungrammatical sentence makes HUGE assumptions, and offers ZERO evidence to back them up. We'll just go on to the next point.
"I am now a teacher I started by teaching my own kids, they needed a good start in life that does not include someone that is weak as a teacher, weakness is why our society is in such a bad way, sorry but you are not a good teacher, I have a 1 year waiting list of students wanting lessons with me try discipline, maybe you can get $40 an hour like I do ..."
Oh, my. You're a teacher? You teach LANGUAGE? You teach GRAMMAR? Do you even know what constitutes a sentence? Do you know what a period is? (Or, as the British would call it, a full stop.) You just typed ten--count them, TEN!--sentences and connected them with six commas. A teacher of third grade children would not accept this from his or her students.
Let's break down that mess you wrote:
"I am now a teacher I started by teaching my own kids."
There is an overabundance of people who are really horrible, misguided teachers. You have said nothing to indicate that you are not among them.
"weakness is why our society is in such a bad way"
You are welcome to your opinion, but I would suggest that fear and close-mindedness do far greater harm to society.
"sorry but you are not a good teacher"
Sorry, but based on your comments, you are far from being qualified to judge whether anyone else is a good teacher.
"I have a 1 year waiting list of students wanting lessons with me try discipline"
Or perhaps it is the parents who put their children on your waiting list, because their thinking is as misguided as yours.
"maybe you can get $40 an hour like I do"
Bragging doesn't earn you any Brownie points. It just makes you a boor.
I also heard this, Edward, and thought it made excellent sense. Until I read an opposing view. (Not that of Paul Garrett, who I would NEVER send a child to.)
One problem here is that when you point out the one "doing good," you risk putting them in the position of being seen as a "brown-nose" (AKA a goody two-shoes, an apple polisher, a teacher's pet, etc.)
Another problem is that you are rewarding behavior that should be seen as normal rather than admirable. This sets the bar too low. And if other kids start behaving that way, and you don't praise them all, you risk being seen as playing favorites--or, worse, individual students may conclude that you just don't like them.
I wonder if it wouldn't it be just as effective to remind the kids of the behavior that is acceptable without pointing out who is already demonstrating that behavior.
I suggest you check out Michael Linsin, who has written extensively on classroom management. (He has books for sale, but he also has a blog you can subscribe to for free.)
@@paulgarrett1622Mr. Garrett,Building relationships with students and their parents is a 🔑 key to managing the classroom. I do agree that when we care for someone we quickly correct erong behavior. The caring comes first.
@@paulgarrett1622 P.S. Let someone else peaise you. Good Luck
It’s all about building relationships, or chit chat. When kids feel heard and understood, you have their positive attention. They believe you are on their side. Love it!
Very true!!
I definitely agree that when you let your students feel that they belong and they are heard and valued you will totally gain their respect.we might not know how they are being treated at home that is why they are behaving that way.so taking time to hear their story and show them that you are interested to listen and that you sympathize allows you to gain their respect.and if that happens they will always want to give their best in the class because they love their teacher and they want him/her to be happy.
@@EldeljoyRusiana I totally agree with you but this should not be at the expanse of the time and the aims of the session .In addition, If you hear each student story this will be time wasting and if you choose to listen to a particular student then you will be unfair. I find it really difficult to be a teacher.May be the most tough job.😥
I LOVED this! i love how Rob admits he was a failure at classroom management in the beginning and doesn't act like a know-it-all. I love the specific examples he gives to make his point. and I love that he knows what we are all also going through and that he made these videos to help :)
Cheers Lisa, happy to help :-)
Agreed, the first step is realizing that you are handling the situation incorrectly. Rob seems to have done that and also come to some effective measures.
I have tried the strategy of standing in the door and doing hi5 with incoming students. It does miracles.
I will try it too
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Some teachers love to hear their voices yelling , lots of thus is common sense
I'm going to give this a shot. I have just started at a new school and every class I have just talks non stop. Not bad kids, they just aren't interested and want to talk.
Any updates on this and if it worked for you?
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As a retired teacher who is still actively involved in mentoring young teachers and students, I totally agree with the strategies you have shared and appreciate your willingness to share with others who can certainly benefit from your experience and suggestions. Thank you for being an educator.
I'm so happy to have found your videos, and you expressed my feelings perfectly. I'm a good teacher, but not so good at classroom management, and I am stressed by the end of the day and embarrassed when other teachers see my class at certain times. Thank you for your excellent advice.
What makes a good teacher? I want to go in as some sort of supporting role.
I'm having a bad day, losing control of my class. Somehow I remembered this video and it really helps me to understand classroom management
I watched this video last night and tired this technique this morning on a group of 3rd graders, not ONCE did I have to raise my voice. I then was moved to 2 other rooms where I did the same thing as their normal teachers were in the room, and I got the same results. When I first watched this, I was like, "This dude is cray cray," then I thought anything is better than screaming! You're a life, and job saver! Thank you so much!
Rob thank you very much. You are a lifesaver. I just came back utterly traumatized today from trying to teach something but failed miserably to the 11th graders of age group between 16 and 18 . I even failed today after a small lie i told them that i am a heart patient and anytime they got to be ready to call an ambulance. They were quiet for a moment but then started again. Everyday they torment me. They make fun of me and laugh so loudly. I could hardly hear myself. I have been struggling with classroom management for few years now. After tears and sobbing and praying today I stumbled upon your video. I am very heartbroken and in despair. I work hard to prepare for my lectures but am left helpless unable to deliver them. Today you have given me hope because I relate to the ineffective strategies you had followed and failed. So I am going to try all your suggestions through which you conquered finally.
Awesome. I just started as a substitute teacher n I am planning to teach in my own classroom soon. This is the part that terrifies me because first, I do not like shout at the students and I don’t have a strong, strict personality. I thought, the students take advantage of that and just ignore my instructions, to the point where I was wondering if I was going to be able to be an effective teacher. Your videos have helped me get back my confidence and believe that I can still do this. Thank you so much..!
I have been in a public school teacher for over 30 years. I like to re-visit classroom management techniques So it keeps me on my toes.Thank you very much for this motivational talk.
I feel "useless" when it comes to classroom management, too! Thank you so much for sharing this candid video series. You're great! Keep up the inspiring work!
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It's amazing how the actual sequence of student disturbance have been revealed very easily. The facts and classroom situations have been described so genuinely for any troubled teacher or classroom for anywhere. Thanks for sharing the real insight hidden in the core of the undisciplined classroom.
Shared this with Facebook colleagues. Absolutely brilliant!
I absolutely love the reminder of non-confrontation! This is in fact the better way to approach and talk to your students. Like us, they need positive reminders.
Great man. You speak with calm confidence and you're not ashamed to say you've made mistakes in the past. It is how we learn. Useful video! I'll remember what you said next time I go into class.
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Hi Rob, I just finished my ‘shouting’ phase so I’m making progress😂. The fact you are willing to share your ‘failures’ comforts me. Thank you. I will certainly check your videos because I really like to work with these youngsters. I’m getting better at it.
Yes! I just had a send them all out day, so I’m here for help! 😅
Great points Rob! There is something unparallel that happens when we actually "talk the kid's language" and see eye to eye with them. Being able to talk their lingo makes us relatable, and being proactive is also a skill that comes with like you say, learning, and messing up sometimes. Thank you for sharing this great video!
Thank you everyone for your kind comments - it's what makes my work worthwhile! :-)
Rob Plevin Hi Rob, I have a 8 year old going on 9 in October this. Our house doctor diagnosed him with ADHD and then put him on meds when he was still 6 years old. With in 2 weeks of using the medication, he started becoming violent and his tantrums got out of hand. He is a sweet child, but the only way he would have gotten violent was by force, though he loves to argue and debate with a person, but as soon as the violence began and the out of control tantrums. I took him of meds and did it the tough way.
I am not crazy about meds and I think like most parents I was distraught out it.
I have seen his ADHD becoming worse. He has all the signs they can give you. Except most nights he will pass out very early.
I have been thinking about taking him to someone that can do the tests with him to be diagnosed and then taking it from there, but I am still so affraid, as I have seen good stories and bad stories of the tables for ADHD. Even deaths occurring
What do you think about ADHD and what I have told you? All his teacher has told me he is a highly intelligent child, but needs to pay more attention and needs to sit still and start to complete his work in the classroom
I just need some advice from different points of view and it seems you have found your way around the small stuff .
Thanks so much
+Rob Plevin (Behaviour Needs) Thank you so so much! I've just started teaching and this is really helpful for me!
This is even helping me in Mexico with my First Grade students. Thank you. Very useful! ;)
I behaved because I felt sorry for teachers who didn't have the magic at school
Thanks so much! These are things I learned when I taught elementary school but I've had a real tough time employing these in middle school, having jumped in during November as a teacher.
Thank you so much for this video! I really needed this, especially because I just started teaching in a new school and feel like I am "useless" in classroom management. It's really starting to stress me out because the other staff are noticing that I have little to no control of the group of students. I am returning home with a tired voice because of all the screaming I do in the classroom throughout the day. I'll start using these really helpful strategies you mentioned in the video!
Rob, thank you for your post. I'm approaching my wits end with a particular class. Came across your channel by chance. I have to unlearn what I have learned. I agree, the process starts outside the classroom.
It's really funny, i am an ESL teacher out in China, and i was just giving a class today to Chinese teachers about my take on teaching psychology. Almost everything you said is what i was saying earlier and what i FIRMLY believe in. Great to watch!
This is such a lovely reminder of helping make the transitions smoother for students as well as us teachers. Thanks for the video.
This first video is a great help and I plan on watching the rest. I broke rule #1 nearly every day this year, letting in my noisy students from the hall into class. And it took 5-10 minutes to get them settled. I look forward to more of Rob's tips and implementing them next school year.
As a teacher trainee, I can relate perfectly to those two 'equally ineffective' strategies ... so happy to have come across this video. Thank you!
Thank you Rob for taking the time to share these videos. I see you have put some great thought into what you are sharing in your video series. I can see you are heading in the right direction of being proactive vs reactive when it comes to creating the right environment. I too can remember starting a similar journey back in 1994 when teaching students. The yelling which was easy to do did create short-term success that faded quickly away... At that time the quest for guiding behavior vs punishment had begun. Now 20 years later this quest has paid off. Once again Rob, I appreciate all that you are doing to help teachers and parents. Keep up the good work. I salute you and your efforts.
This is good stuff Rob...... meet them on their terms and be positive....
THANK YOU ! I just started my teaching "temporary " and i'm teaching KG level , it is nice and cute but it needs more power to control them and the stuff watching me and i want to be able to be a good , open heart and loving teacher with each one of them . Thank you again
This makes total sense. I have seen a school where kids are lined up in the hallway and greeted at the door. You have added the purpose and the how to do it. Great ideas.
I used this technique when I substituted and it worked like a charm.
Love these tips! I've started implementing these strategies this week and I am already seeing a shift in how students behave in the classroom. Thanks Rob!
Thank you SO very much! I just started substitute teaching in the fall, and classroom management is my biggest problem! (I'm currently a business student, who is a mom, loves school, and loves kids.) We seem to have a fantastic start, but then things fall apart at the end of the day. I would love to find a balance between nice and authoritative...nice is allowing them to push all my buttons. lol I'm looking forward to watching the rest of your videos!
As an experienced teacher myself, I had to comment on how much I enjoyed this video and how much respect I have for you. I am very impressed at how you candidly talk about your failures and how well you learned from them.
Your calm confidence is telling, as is the way you talk about the expletive (not fazed, but setting a boundary).
This is excellent information, and I'd recommend this to any teacher. I hope you are doing well these days, and I hope your students know how lucky they are.
Thank you so much! I used to do this with all my Music Classes and it definitely worked. We actually chanted "the Music Rules", as well as using body percussion, before entering the classroom so they remembered the expectations. Now that I teach Grade 6, I should go back to that routine and adapt it for my students because they do enter noisily. Thank you for acknowledging (and reminding me) how important it is to establish a proper climate for learning before entering the classroom.
As an year 8 student in Australia, I completely agree with this. I can instantly pick up the flaws with some of our teachers, even the experienced ones. However another way of engaging students is to be enthusiastic and build a relation with students, that way, most students will obey your orders and most likely not going to spread rumours around you. Of course, we have some teachers we dislike because they lack these things including the tone of voice. If you sound extremely dull, it's not going to pass through the class and if you do a few jokes or two, it will greatly affect your classes in a positive affect. Overall a great video!
KingHarlaus1 very true !!!!!!!
Thank you for the suggestions! I look forward to trying them out this year (my first year as a full time teacher after 8 years of substitute teaching and 4 years of additional education).
THANK YOU for this video! Even though I'm starting year 21 in the classroom, I have an unusually tough group this year, and I can completely relate to your/my failed strategies. Thank you for your vulnerability and willingness to share, and give reat reminders of how to build a positive climate in your classroom & positive relationships with your students!
Rob, this video is simple and spot on. Wished I had remembered to follow your classroom management videos at the beginning of the year.
I do this with every class so it's good to see that its the right thing to do. It doesn't always work and I am learning more about the challenges my students experience every day. I am confident with this training things will be better going forward.
I watched this video because right now I am preparing for back to school. It's early August and I do not want to start another year with a problem of noisy students.
Thanks for giving the "why" of this strategy of meeting the students at the door which I have heard of before.
I like how you explain that the point at the door is most crucial and that once loud students pass that door they have essentially disrespected you and your class rules.
I can't wait.
However. I agree. I love watching their movies so I'm good at relating to them.
I am still in school learning how to be a teacher but I remember exactly the kind of situation you are talking about from the days I was a student. The things you said in this video reminded me of a History teacher I had that all the students liked and respected. Thank you for the help to make the kind of classroom I want to have one day.
You are a teacher with a great heart! We have very narrow corridors in my school which can quickly fill up and be unpredictable scenes of noise and chaos - and children who arrive at differing times so we can't hold them for too long in the hall. Still, I agree that letting them in group by group - best behavior first - especially at the beginning of the school year - will give those who are really attention seeking a chance to be recognized and supported some privacy, and give the others, those kids who are really sensitive to the noise and hate the pushing get in more quickly. The latter will gravitate toward the front of the line anyway so I can see that over time this technique could work for our situation. You worked in alot more than just entering the classroom - not shouting, not sending kids out of the room, noticing and calling out positive behaviors (not negative). Thanks alot!!!
New teacher this fall. I watched Kindergarten Cop three times so I know I am ready! Really, you have great materials, thanks.
I recently completed a course called Educational Psychology where we briefly covered effective classroom management strategies and your video helped reinforce what I learned. Thank you! I am not a teacher quite yet but with videos like yours, I am certain I will be prepared to manage my classroom in my first year of teaching! Blessings to you!
I think you might have just changed my life and/or my experience of teaching! I'm kind of learning on the job and I honestly didn't think about the pre classroom aspect. It never entered my mind but I'm going to start this afternoon.....!
Excellent video and I really embrace your openness and enthusiasm to share your knowledge. Many thanks.
This is brilliant. I only had a teaching experience a few years ago and as you admitted, I did poorly in managing noisy students. I would like to teach again in the future (currently homeschooling) and now I know there are so many things I could do differently. Thanks for sharing what you've learned with experience!
As a a new teacher I am working with a tough group of students, thank you for your helpful ideas and suggestions.
This is really helpful. I'm finding 18 year olds at University getting worse attitude year by year. Reframing comments in a positive way is worth trying: "What you resist persists"
Also early in my teaching career after a long time in the private sector. I teach EFL to teenager in a technical school in one of the 'poorest' town in Belgium but I'm confident that my experience and skills will help me build effective classroom strategy in my new career. I'm also a visual person and your drawings and key words help me a lot remembering the strategies that I intend to put in place as of next term. Thank you! I also like that fact that you are not ashamed to tell that you struggled at the beginning as I'm also trying hard to cope with my class management. Thanks again for sharing your experience!
We could go on and on, but professional work attire is also a big one. It shows students you are professional and committed to being their teacher.
This comment is such boomer advice. Kids do not care at all what you look like. Either you can build rapport or not. A kid will destroy a teacher regardless of his/her attire.
I am so glad I watched this video, I have 5 6th grade classes.They are loud,rude and do not know how to be quiet. I' going to try this strategy this week ans see how it goes.
Thank you
Cathy C
That was a very practable , positive and viable kids management stratagy outside classroom.
This is 100% spot on. Definitely the best advice on RUclips for all teachers. I used to teach in one of the toughest schools in NJ and learned this the hard way. Those who dislike this video are probably the kids who want to take over the class.
This was brilliant. The non-confrontational aspect was a good reminder for me. I've been so busy addressing negative behaviors it's overwhelming. Going to focus on the good. Thanks for sharing this, even 7 years later it is helpful!
Thank you. Great advice. I'm a new secondary trainee and have been observing a really difficult class. This video has given me some much needed strategies that I will be putting to use.
A lot of this can be applied to parenting as well, especially if you have quite a few kids. Great ideas.
My Professor had us watch this video and I have to say this has been really helpful information. I already have tried some of these techniques on my own from just trial and error and things I learned while working in a preschool classroom. However, I wasn't sure if what i was doing was working but now I know that I need to keep up with what I'm doing because it will work in time. Thanks
I normally don't have students line up at my door for high school; however, the same idea you presented also applies to obtaining the attention of the class if you're trying to give instructions during a transition. Giving instructions while students are still talking gives the impression that what the teacher has to say isn't important. It also encourages similar behavior in the future. The tips you provided for positive reinforcement work in this regard (and in other instances as well). Great tips!
Rob, I couldn’t agree more! This is what I do each class I have. I remind them of why we do what we do and use the moment to greet and shake hands with each student. I can give individual objectives and at the end of class, feedback and compliments or redirection for next class. Students yearn for individual progress reports for things they did well and what can be worked on for next time. Honest and impartial/genuine comments.
I’m substitute teaching and I have my good days and very bad days still...I am looking forward to seeing your series.
I really enjoyed part one. Thank you so much for sharing. I do well with the informal chit-chat, however, this has made it more difficult for me to get them to settle, because they see me more of a "nice teacher" vs. a "strict teacher." I am trying to gain control of my classroom and not losing the trust and love they know I have for them.
It's my first year of teaching English as a Foreign language here in Brazil. I'm facing the same problems you faced when you started teaching, so I'm kinda relieved to know that we can really train our classroom management strategies. These tips are really useful, thanks for sharing.
You are a godsend! I recently started teaching larger groups in classrooms and I’m finding it more difficult to manage them than smaller groups. And I have no backup from the administration...
This is very helpful! Thank you so much. I feel encouraged that you struggled once and now you have improved. It makes me feel like I can do it too. Now I will watch all your videos.
Excellent suggestions Rob. Many students I teach are already sat in the classroom waiting. Therefore, to create an atmosphere conducive for learning I have music already playing in the classroom (or ask the teacher I’m taking over from to put some on) then when I enter the classroom I walk around chatting with the students, listening and taking mental notes. Kid culture is something I’m tuned into and buying that PS4 console a few years back, keeping up with the latest football gossip, Marvel films etc, really has made a difference.
I’ve been teaching for 3 years but this month it’s my first time to handle large class . I’m struggling right now and so stress on how to manage my class, most of them has difficulties on focusing , 😢thank you for the video and admitting the failure you’ve done at the first , showing that I can make change from now ,
I find moving down the line and greeting them with a smile and a very calm "Good morning" very effective. Sometimes I say it with a raised eyebrow for the rowdy ones, so that they know that it is time to pull it together, but I also appreciate their personality. I teach middle school, and they are often very lively, sometimes rude, sometimes with so much going on... self control is a learned skill and a developmental piece. I try to MODEL respectable behavior. They usually respond positively. If they are shown respect, they will take a step.
Laura Hogan my students don’t take me seriously it sticks and I look real young and just started in middle of the year
Darknloveli did u manage to get over the challenge
This is EXACTLY what I needed for my current teaching practice class. Thank you!
I have been suffering with a class of kids that are sweet but so loud and irrespective of me the teacher for a whole year. Now I think I know how to handle a new group in a new way! Thank you!!
Great video Rob. I appreciate that you recognized your weakness and did something about it. Not many people do. I hope that you are still teaching. You sound like a good one and I am sure that many of your students appreciate you.
Nice Job.
So glad I found you with your tips. :) So many tips online that do not fit my unique teaching environment, but your tips fit perfectly. Thank you!
I'll be embarking on my journey as a TEFL teacher to kids in SE Asia next month. I've no idea what to expect from them as I have no teaching experience, but your videos are proving to be a good source of information in preparation for this! Thanks!
Great advice. thank you. I just started teaching 2nd grade and love it! I have struggled at times with the frustration of their noise level and getting them into learning mode. This will help..
As a sub in a new class I introduce myself outside the classroom as students enter the classroom. It takes extra work but really helps
Thank you Rob for your positive energy, crystal-clear illustration, and your honest reflection of your own teaching! I can't agree with you more when you said that we should not go through the problem. I also like the tone of your talking, very calm and calming, assertive and authoritative, coming from a gentle and caring heart.
Thank you Serena, that's very kind x
Right on I agree with everything you said, and sometimes I just want to get started right away, but it's important to develop positive relationships before you enter the room. Bravo!
You did a good job explaining and reinforcing what we tend to forget, and it sure does make a difference. Firm and friendly is what it´s all about. Non-confrontational and chit chat are simple actions that will set a positive tone right away. A little sense of humor as well! Thanks for great tips.
i have found this incredibly useful. I find myself raising my voice way too much. I will def go back to the meet and greet at the door strategy with noisy lot. Thanks for sharing.
This is brilliant - thank you!!!!! I've just subscribed... can't wait to see more of your videos!!
I'm going to slowly learn this as a teacher. I do believe the same thing. Kids are kids. I can't force them to be an adult but i want them to settle down so they can get something from the class.
Thank you so much for sharing ❤️
Thanks! I am currently finishing up my schooling and am full-time student-teaching in a 5th grade classroom. I am trying to learn as much as possible about classroom management! :) These videos are incredibly helpful. Thank you!
OMG, this is what I needed to hear. I'm a new teacher and I lead a group of 3rd graders in the after school program. I saw myself shouting and quickly realized that I lost control. Thank you for giving me this tip (I agree with) for me to handle my group. Thank you for sharing.
Thank you Rob! I am an elementary school music teacher in the US and I have a fifth grade class that comes to music right after recess. They are not a bad group but man they are NOISY and I have fallen into some non-constructive patterns with them. This video had a lot of great reminders that I needed!!
That's great to know Martha
Enjoyed this. Really liked that you put your advice in context. Too many people offer advice for classroom management without showing the process of learning. What's next in the pipeline Rob? Would love to see some ideas on reintegration following a breakdown with school.
I am helping to construct a mentor training program for my school and my portion of that is behavior/classroom management. I chose to do this section as I think I have done a good job with this in my own room. I use both of these strategies and they work amazingly well! I rarely raise my voice so that when I do I get immediate results. I teach wood/metal shop so I usually reserve yelling for the safety issues. I also used to coach soccer so that helped me develop the skills I needed to interact with the students outside of the classroom. I have always used the informal chit chat technique to break up their conversations which then transfers the power to me. I am definitely going to reference this video for the training. Thanks!
Thanks for the video. It never occurred to me that classroom management needs to start outside of the classroom, but now that I've seen the video, it makes so much sense!
Excellent video, i've never considered something like this before. I especially like the non confrontation point. I'm starting my PGCE next september, im eager to get stuck in
A wonderful way to start the day with second and third graders. Thank you for this insight!
Thank You because I needed this video. I'm teaching 6th grade for only the 2nd time, but the majority of my teaching career has been HS, so my kids are adjusting to being middle school students rather than 5th graders and I'm getting used to preteens & early teens rather than late teens & young adults. At the end of the day, it's about finding a technique that is catchy and is receptive to what the kids will respond positively.
This is so helpful for those groups that really challenge us. Great idea to begin creating relationships and establishing expectations outside the classroom.
Thank you so much!!! I'm starting a conversation class for teenagers today, I'm used to teaching adults so I was freaking out a bit about dealing with these "teacher-bullies" as I sometimes see them (i used to be one myself, maybe that's why lol) Your video has helped me calm down and feel like I'm not alone. Thank you again!! i'll try your tips and let you know how it went :)
I was just talking to a coworker about classroom management and not able to tell him how my class was able to work for me. I definitely use informal chitchat, but I can work on more non-confrontational statements. Thanks!
Non confrontation statements is Behaviour specific praise, you praise the behaviour that the person demonstrates and in turn increases the likelihood they will do it again. Great video.
This is great, thank you! I’ve been subbing for six months and needed to improve my classroom management, so I appreciate the video!
My father tells me it used to be the cane. In our day the teacher just ignored the disruptive students, put out harsh report cards if that was required and shouted in class. Today, there is far better classroom management and teachers really relate. The real problem is the student, most of the time, not the excellent teachers. No respect taught at home. When students get into work, especially competitive international work, many can't take the extreme amount of abuse. Hard discipline has its place as well and trains hard people who can take on whatever life/work throws at them.
You mean most can't take corrections. The learners are so pampered.
It could be that it isn't that they aren't taught respect at home, rather, they aren't taught anything- which is to say they are dropped off at school (where all parental responsibility is abrogated) and receive very little interaction, let alone instruction from parents.
Well you could be nice and then become authoritative at the same time. The method always works, and all of my history teachers use it. There will always be that one student who will not pay attention because they've never been properly disciplined. Ignore them, they're wasting your time. Kick them out for all you care it's a nuisance for the rest of the students who want to learn in class.
kids are kids
I'm a student studying Education and loving your videos... thank you!!
Good reminders! I'm a 1st-year ESL teacher who's still in the process of improving my classroom management skills. My one success has been in relationship-building and doing a lot of that 'informal chit-chat' w/ the kids. Even my most challenging kids respond well to this. When kids know you genuinely care about them, they are more likely to respect you and work harder for you.
Please, please, please, take out more videos. Your videos are so realistic and down to earth. I’ve seen some videos that are down right unrealistic. Thank you !!!!