Interesting piece of industrial history glad it was saved. Hats off to Crane works and everyone else that made this possible 👏 You people make the world a better place 👍👍👍
Hear in cornwall england we used to have “holman brothers of Camborne” Who manufactures all sorts of equipment for the mines. And it was shipped all over the world. I bet you will have some of it near you. Great work that you and your friends saved this compressor, We have lost so much of this historic equipment.👍
You folks should think about putting up a sign describing this equipment and provide credit to UHaul and the crane company for their donation and who you folks are who made this all happen.
From Library of Congress: "The Hardie-Tynes Manufacturing Company is an example of a typical foundry and machine shop serving industrial customers in the late nineteenth and twentieth centuries. The company retains substantial original equipment, including two unused cupolas dating from 1901 and 1918. Originally a vital link in Birmingham's integrated iron industry, Hardie-Tynes expanded beyond its southern mining context to produce specialized components for large public works projects such as the Panama Canal, Wilson and Hoover Dams, and the U.S. Navy."
If it's early enough, its AC motor would be from before Nikola Tesla: a synchronous motor needing a big pulley with a one-horse DC motor, to run it up to operating speed. We have the big belt-drive wheel. But perhaps that was for driving some other shop-equipment? In the pre-1900 years, Westinghouse Corp had AC motors in mines.
so lenme get this straight. a probably fully functional compressor is now sitting out in the weather degrading. IMO it should have been put in a building to protect it from the elements so it can be preserved in as good of a condition for as long as possible
That is a great story and an interesting piece of history. It would be nice if it could be better preserved by painting or covering it to keep it out of the elements.
Looks exactly like a Westinghouse synchronous motor. We had several of these from the mid 30's to early 40's that drove York 10x10 ammonia compressors. Some were 300 and some 360 rpms, 150hp. They ran until 2007 when ammonia was being phased out of refrigeration and steel prices got high.
@@jims6323 No, It won't "last Forever" It will rot away in about 30 years. Maybe less. Water is insidious. A simple roof would make it last much longer. I'd donate ta few bucks to have a roof put on.
@@HyperSpacePropheti agree with you totally, a simple canopy that over reaches the machine by maybe six foot or so will not only help to keep it dry but would also be a shelter for tourists/visitors when it rains. All the best from England.
Is that an early Westinghouse AC motor? Looks like it. But it would depend on the year (in later years it might be a General Electric version, or others.)
@@HyperSpaceProphet How so? What drives the pumps? A very early pre-1900 Westinghouse product was large industrial AC motors, for mines' water-pumps, ore stamping mills, etc. These were used in mountainous regions where coal/wood for steam engines was far too expensive to transport. AC transmission lines replaced continous mule-trains.
@@wbeaty perhaps. Not that powerful of a motor though for a compressor. Usually the winding are much wider for motors of that era.... if yer gonna get any power, and that compressor is gonna take a lot of HP. Not enough detail to be sure.
@@HyperSpaceProphetAgreed, if the mine had steam, then the big belt-wheel would be for driving both the pumps and the alternator (for AC electric lights.) Must look at the rotor to tell which: either a powered field-winding (and slip rings) for a generator, or instead just a passive rotor w/squirrel-cage to provide self-starting as a motor. The REALLY early ones (like Telluride, I think,) were pure synchronous motors, needing a belt-wheel and a small DC motor to run them up to synch speed. Not great for variable loads, but maybe fine for a pump. If it's a steam-driven AC generator, then there would be a small DC generator on the same belt, as an "exciter" for the field coils.
Interesting piece of industrial history glad it was saved.
Hats off to Crane works and everyone else that made this possible 👏 You people make the world a better place 👍👍👍
nice documentary on the topic, regards
Well done for saving it
Great work, good idea, I hope to visit some day. Thanks.
Hear in cornwall england we used to have “holman brothers of Camborne”
Who manufactures all sorts of equipment for the mines. And it was shipped all over the world. I bet you will have some of it near you. Great work that you and your friends saved this compressor,
We have lost so much of this historic equipment.👍
Both U-Haul and Crane Works know how to be a part of the community and good on both of them for their donations.
You folks should think about putting up a sign describing this equipment and provide credit to UHaul and the crane company for their donation and who you folks are who made this all happen.
The World Thanks All involved.
From Library of Congress: "The Hardie-Tynes Manufacturing Company is an example of a typical foundry and machine shop serving industrial customers in the late nineteenth and twentieth centuries. The company retains substantial original equipment, including two unused cupolas dating from 1901 and 1918. Originally a vital link in Birmingham's integrated iron industry, Hardie-Tynes expanded beyond its southern mining context to produce specialized components for large public works projects such as the Panama Canal, Wilson and Hoover Dams, and the U.S. Navy."
If it's early enough, its AC motor would be from before Nikola Tesla: a synchronous motor needing a big pulley with a one-horse DC motor, to run it up to operating speed. We have the big belt-drive wheel. But perhaps that was for driving some other shop-equipment? In the pre-1900 years, Westinghouse Corp had AC motors in mines.
Thanks for sharing enjoyed
Very nice!
so lenme get this straight. a probably fully functional compressor is now sitting out in the weather degrading. IMO it should have been put in a building to protect it from the elements so it can be preserved in as good of a condition for as long as possible
i like that old machine very much.
That would be cool if you could get the compressor restored and use it for the mine.
That is a great story and an interesting piece of history. It would be nice if it could be better preserved by painting or covering it to keep it out of the elements.
PS it looks like a Westinghouse self-starting synchronous motor, perhaps a hundred HP or two.
Looks exactly like a Westinghouse synchronous motor. We had several of these from the mid 30's to early 40's that drove York 10x10 ammonia compressors. Some were 300 and some 360 rpms, 150hp. They ran until 2007 when ammonia was being phased out of refrigeration and steel prices got high.
You could air up EVERY CAR TIRE in the USA at one time with that thing...😊
Shouldn't you have it under a roof or a partial shed?
Why? Something like this will last forever out in the weather, unless some punks vandalize it!
@@jims6323 No, It won't "last Forever" It will rot away in about 30 years. Maybe less. Water is insidious.
A simple roof would make it last much longer.
I'd donate ta few bucks to have a roof put on.
@@HyperSpacePropheti agree with you totally, a simple canopy that over reaches the machine by maybe six foot or so will not only help to keep it dry but would also be a shelter for tourists/visitors when it rains. All the best from England.
Step 1 is to save it from the scrap pile, Step 2 is for you to send a check to pay for the roof
@@Bob-j5o3b I'd donate for a roof
You need to be famous already
Time for some sandblasting and a fresh coat of paint 🙂
Amazing the copper theives have not removed the windings from that motor.
Naaa. It's in Birmingham Alabama where nothing bad happens.
Is that an early Westinghouse AC motor? Looks like it. But it would depend on the year (in later years it might be a General Electric version, or others.)
I would bet that it is a generator.
@@HyperSpaceProphet How so? What drives the pumps?
A very early pre-1900 Westinghouse product was large industrial AC motors, for mines' water-pumps, ore stamping mills, etc. These were used in mountainous regions where coal/wood for steam engines was far too expensive to transport. AC transmission lines replaced continous mule-trains.
@@wbeaty perhaps. Not that powerful of a motor though for a compressor. Usually the winding are much wider for motors of that era.... if yer gonna get any power, and that compressor is gonna take a lot of HP. Not enough detail to be sure.
@@HyperSpaceProphetAgreed, if the mine had steam, then the big belt-wheel would be for driving both the pumps and the alternator (for AC electric lights.) Must look at the rotor to tell which: either a powered field-winding (and slip rings) for a generator, or instead just a passive rotor w/squirrel-cage to provide self-starting as a motor.
The REALLY early ones (like Telluride, I think,) were pure synchronous motors, needing a belt-wheel and a small DC motor to run them up to synch speed. Not great for variable loads, but maybe fine for a pump.
If it's a steam-driven AC generator, then there would be a small DC generator on the same belt, as an "exciter" for the field coils.
You haul from UHaul.
Why isn't it painted, it looks in terrible shape. You went to all that trouble to get it there only to let it rust away.