Different use case, though. The Arduino boards support 5V shields, have a wide range power supply, quicker compile time and better peripherals (for instance, a linear ADC).
Okay, fine. But they shouldn't have called it a UNO, it's a completely different beast. It's just going to cause headaches for anyone familiar with the old UNO. Very dumb move.
I think it outgrew its from factor. It was ok in the past if you wanted to put "shields" on it, etc or if you wanted to scrape out the dip chip and make a simplified "dead bug" project. ESP32 stuff is tiny and abundant now. The Arduino IDE is excellent and very mature but this new thing is awkward in this space.
I regret buying it. Many popular libraries won't run on it. Meanwhile the inexpensive ESP Wroom32, utilising both cores at 240mhz. Or how about the Teensy 4.1? 600mhz overclock? 1ghz Overclock?
I don’t think I’ve ever spec’d my components based on clock speed. 48Mhz vs 1Ghz is a chisel vs dynamite, something’s gone horribly wrong if that’s what’s been picked. What I’m considering: price buying in bulk, availability, power consumption, instruction set, pin counts.
@@Comonad I see. Clock speed is critical for me since my projects are generally music hardware. Latest project needs a good clock speed for the TFT graphics as well. In fact making use of both cores of the ESP32 was essential. 240mhz x 2. ESP Wroom 32 is very affordable. Teensy and DaisySeed not so much. Would have to be very special music projects for either of those two devices. I started some of my projects on the Uno R3 and then shifted over to ESP32.
The thing is: Arduino is produced just for hobbyists. Esp32 are industrial mc that are used by the millions in all kinds of devices, and industry makes sure that this mc family is always up to par. I thank Arduino for providing me with the first steps but honestly this platform today is light years behind while at the same time ridiculously overpriced. Good ESP32 boards today, obviously with Wifi, BLE, efficient deep sleep and 16MB are below €3 and fully support 5V peripherals. And they are just as simple to program as Arduino, even ArduinoIDE would work (although I strongly recommend platformio or better yet esphome). Don’t be trapped in the old Arduino World.
Cool. The 14bit ADC could interest me... but wait I'm still using my Duemilanove which I bought when it first came out. DC Current per I/O Pin:40 mA, And on-board FTDI. And a proper big-boy Type B connector. They don't break! And I can even pronounce Duemilanove properly.
I was curious, started with Arduino originally. I am puzzled why people use Arduino these days. A 16MB single core ESP32-C3 costs less than €2, a dual-core 16MB ESP32 with high density ttf display and liion charger is under €5, with 16 gpios, and about 1/4 of the size of an Arduino. I am honestly just wondering. Btw you can of course run 5v peripherals. Gpios are 5v tolerant.
I don't see the sense in continuing this core line. I've retired all my atmel cores over 2 years ago in favor of the ESP line of microcontrollers. Over the years I've accumulated just about every form factor of arduino modules all of which are now rotting in a box. Life is too short for all the devices being spung on us. I now standardize on the esp32C3 for battery based sensors, esp32S3 for hubs and esp32 for bluetooth audio (for the A2DP). For wearables I use the nrf52480 family.
I kind of dislike that they switched from an 8 bit AVR to a 32 bit ARM architecture. Maybe I'm weird, but I associate the Arduino Brand Names like Uno, Nano, more with the CPU architecture than with the form Factor. But I also like to expore assembly code so may not surprise that I'm so pinned on the architecture. Anyway disadvantage the switch in architecture is that any code directly interacting with the CPU registers will need to be rewritten or use Register Emulation like the Arduino folks did with the Nano Every. But the Nano Every is still AVR, register emulation across architectures is not really feasible.
they could have, but this would have made it more expensive for everyone, so I guess its fine to keep the current limit in mind and add a transistor to your project if its required by your project
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i just stumbled across the channel, and immediately subscribed. One criticism is that your face is everso slightly too low in the video composition which seems a bit... off...
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4K is so beyond common at this point on cameras that your comment comes across as foolish. Also you would still have the same critcism for focus at 2K or 1080 .. so say what you really want to say and stop wasting everyone's time.
@@highpraise-highcritic The end result is still 480p in places. Also, it's not too common for hobbyists, since 4K60 is still an expensive barrier for filmmakers.
@@graealex I know you aren't flipping this discussion to the end user statistics to try and not be wrong ... 😂 You were dunking on the content, not making an empirical observation of the youtube user base. Also why skip over the obvious 4K30? or even 2K .. you wriggle more than a worm trying to be right.
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Good Lord, it is almost as good as ESP32!
Ohh, Yes!
The wifi version includes one
I don't know if this is sarcasm, but it's nowhere close to the performance of an ESP32
Different use case, though. The Arduino boards support 5V shields, have a wide range power supply, quicker compile time and better peripherals (for instance, a linear ADC).
@@solwidotnl that really doesn't come across in this video
Okay, fine. But they shouldn't have called it a UNO, it's a completely different beast. It's just going to cause headaches for anyone familiar with the old UNO. Very dumb move.
my thought exactly
I think it outgrew its from factor. It was ok in the past if you wanted to put "shields" on it, etc or if you wanted to scrape out the dip chip and make a simplified "dead bug" project. ESP32 stuff is tiny and abundant now. The Arduino IDE is excellent and very mature but this new thing is awkward in this space.
I regret buying it. Many popular libraries won't run on it. Meanwhile the inexpensive ESP Wroom32, utilising both cores at 240mhz. Or how about the Teensy 4.1? 600mhz overclock? 1ghz Overclock?
MHz, not mhz!
I don’t think I’ve ever spec’d my components based on clock speed. 48Mhz vs 1Ghz is a chisel vs dynamite, something’s gone horribly wrong if that’s what’s been picked. What I’m considering: price buying in bulk, availability, power consumption, instruction set, pin counts.
@@Comonad I see. Clock speed is critical for me since my projects are generally music hardware. Latest project needs a good clock speed for the TFT graphics as well. In fact making use of both cores of the ESP32 was essential. 240mhz x 2. ESP Wroom 32 is very affordable. Teensy and DaisySeed not so much. Would have to be very special music projects for either of those two devices. I started some of my projects on the Uno R3 and then shifted over to ESP32.
The thing is: Arduino is produced just for hobbyists. Esp32 are industrial mc that are used by the millions in all kinds of devices, and industry makes sure that this mc family is always up to par. I thank Arduino for providing me with the first steps but honestly this platform today is light years behind while at the same time ridiculously overpriced. Good ESP32 boards today, obviously with Wifi, BLE, efficient deep sleep and 16MB are below €3 and fully support 5V peripherals. And they are just as simple to program as Arduino, even ArduinoIDE would work (although I strongly recommend platformio or better yet esphome). Don’t be trapped in the old Arduino World.
That R4 seems to be a little big power-tool for our projects!
Cool. The 14bit ADC could interest me... but wait I'm still using my Duemilanove which I bought when it first came out. DC Current per I/O Pin:40 mA, And on-board FTDI. And a proper big-boy Type B connector. They don't break! And I can even pronounce Duemilanove properly.
I love my Duemilanove!
The CAN support sounds fun, I've always threatened to make a thing to see what my car is thinking.
Also first?
I almost bought it, but in Canada the wifi version is way too expensive. I can get esp32 wroom for 10 cad but r4 is 60 cad
I like the upgrade in compute. I think I'll get a couple to experiment
I was curious, started with Arduino originally. I am puzzled why people use Arduino these days. A 16MB single core ESP32-C3 costs less than €2, a dual-core 16MB ESP32 with high density ttf display and liion charger is under €5, with 16 gpios, and about 1/4 of the size of an Arduino. I am honestly just wondering. Btw you can of course run 5v peripherals. Gpios are 5v tolerant.
I don't see the sense in continuing this core line. I've retired all my atmel cores over 2 years ago in favor of the ESP line of microcontrollers. Over the years I've accumulated just about every form factor of arduino modules all of which are now rotting in a box. Life is too short for all the devices being spung on us. I now standardize on the esp32C3 for battery based sensors, esp32S3 for hubs and esp32 for bluetooth audio (for the A2DP). For wearables I use the nrf52480 family.
You still need an external transceiver to use the can bus
True!
Like a having a cell phone while traveling using public transportation, with a positive outlook, right?
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@@playduino Thanks for this video! I LOVE Arduinos!
A very nice and honest review of the R4 Uno, thanks.
I kind of dislike that they switched from an 8 bit AVR to a 32 bit ARM architecture.
Maybe I'm weird, but I associate the Arduino Brand Names like Uno, Nano, more with the CPU architecture than with the form Factor.
But I also like to expore assembly code so may not surprise that I'm so pinned on the architecture.
Anyway disadvantage the switch in architecture is that any code directly interacting with the CPU registers will need to be rewritten or use Register Emulation like the Arduino folks did with the Nano Every. But the Nano Every is still AVR, register emulation across architectures is not really feasible.
Agree, they shouldn’t have called it UNO
could they have maybe used some transistors to amplify the available current at each pin
they could have, but this would have made it more expensive for everyone, so I guess its fine to keep the current limit in mind and add a transistor to your project if its required by your project
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i just stumbled across the channel, and immediately subscribed. One criticism is that your face is everso slightly too low in the video composition which seems a bit... off...
32 I want 256 :)
..but it can take only 8milli amps per pin, which is a shame..
Yeah, but all of those improvements sound like expensive.
@1:12 Milk came out my nose. 🥛🤣🌊😳🤧😉
Arduino uno + rp2040 would be cool
But it would be 3.3v tho
A RP2350 would be better.
@@SpeccyMan absolutely 👍
Oops.. no clue why use it? what for? $ or?
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Conditioned response or memory?
I see no reason to buy an arduino anymore.
Why make 4K video when everything is out of focus?
4K is so beyond common at this point on cameras that your comment comes across as foolish.
Also you would still have the same critcism for focus at 2K or 1080 .. so say what you really want to say and stop wasting everyone's time.
@@highpraise-highcritic still out of focus... regardless of how clever you are.
@@spasticjackson9578Who said it wasn't? I didn't even address whether it is or not. So what's your point in telling me?
@@highpraise-highcritic The end result is still 480p in places. Also, it's not too common for hobbyists, since 4K60 is still an expensive barrier for filmmakers.
@@graealex I know you aren't flipping this discussion to the end user statistics to try and not be wrong ... 😂
You were dunking on the content, not making an empirical observation of the youtube user base.
Also why skip over the obvious 4K30? or even 2K .. you wriggle more than a worm trying to be right.
lot of crap ...stick to R3 chinese
pass
u funny bro