MLM HORROR STORIES #84 | Young Living rep disrespecting a teenager and her service dog #ANTIMLM
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It honestly sounds like a bit of a blessing in disguise for Ariel (setting aside her being manipulated into selling her car to join an MLM in the first place) that she wasn’t approved for a car loan. If she and her husband were already struggling with money, getting a luxury car would have been an absolutely awful financial decision.
I was thinking the same thing.
If I recall the math, her lowest contribution towards a car in that type program is around $30,000, not the mlm contribution, her own cash. You can spend more!, If you are struggling that is the last commitment you need
I'm a market vendor, it's my whole job. I make sure to attend events that don't allow MLMs. Lately I've noticed when applying for markets, I see a "NO MLMS" clause on applications. 😂
I'm a local card maker and lots of the fairs I do let mlms in. But only one rep per company. And then some are not even letting them in now. Which j appreciate as a crafter who makes all their own stuff hah
I’m thankful a lot of our local craft and business sale events are not allowing mlms. We have one huge craft show locally 2/3 times per year and we still are seeing pampered chef and others at that one and more and more are boycotting it for this reason. I wish none of them allowed mlms. It truly takes away from people who actually have real small businesses.
@@mylittlesuperhero581 I could not imagine going out for a nice Craft fair and being accosted by a sales rep from one of these shady multi-billion-dollar MLM companies. Organizers allowing this should get their head screwed on straight!
Many MLM people don't seem to self refer that way. I've met a few women who call themselves 'ambassadors' of a brand or 'owners' of their own 'business' who are just bulk-breaking these branded products. I just say, but do you make passive income when you recruit? That's it. That seals the deal.
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I'm SO SICK of festivals, craft fairs, and markets letting MLMs take up booth space that actual artisans could use.
Yes!! I went to a craft show at the local church near my bf’s house. Half of the booths were Mary Kay! One is too many, but nearly HALF of 25??? Ridiculous
Yes!! I went to a craft show at the local church near my bf’s house. Half of the booths were Mary Kay! One is too many, but nearly HALF of 25??? Ridiculous
Yes! I’m in the uk and it’s the same here. There’s always scentsy , Avon, body shop and many more that get booths at fayres and they could be filled by home crafting like crosstitch or knitting crochet or candle or soap making I’d much perfer that then mlm people
Miami sucks in many ways but I am grateful we don't have this problem.
The mom that let her daughter suffer for six years is absolutely abuse. I’m sorry but that’s just horrible
That story made me so sad. Sucks that she wasn't able to consent to treatment herself when she was capable to make the decision.
I would've also hoped that the school maybe did a little bit more than just mention the option of the school clinic when it was clear that the parents weren't allowing her to access the needed and available care.
Joanna that's what I thought!! That is crazy and messed up!!
@@TyDee_babesThat honestly makes me so mad. Kids have rights and aren’t the properties of their parents. They should’ve called CPS.
The "professionals" did not even agree on the diagnosis.
It was so hard to listen to. I feel so bad for her
I had a staph infection on my ears when I was 13 and instantly knew that’s what that poor girl had. This is not only neglect but borderline abusive. Wtf.
Neglect is a subset of abuse. 😢
Not borderline
medical neglect IS abuse.
And if a parent is willing to neglect and abuse her child in that way I’m sure there was other ways they would abuse. Such a sad story and I hope the person is doing better (I know how it feels to be abused and I know the trauma it creates, it’s all crazy common, we try to act like it’s uncommon but even things like sexual abuse are 1/4 kids)
This isn't borderline abuse, it is abuse. it is medical neglect which is abuse
For the record, I will be 34 next month and sometimes I still feel like I need a "real adult" even though I am, by definition, a real adult. 😂😂😂
Me too. Sometimes it really sucks being a real adult lol.
Microbiologist here- I can’t believe those parents let their child have an ear infection that long! Do they not understand bacteria are living organisms & will absolutely leave irreversible damage to human cells & even lead to death untreated! Immunocompromised patients wouldn’t be so lucky. Im glad she got treatment! Gosh.
So they could've killed her.
This is why "parental consent" shouldn't exist.
Funny story: My husband bought his car used from a local dealership. It was summertime, and we soon saw dust settling on the rear window, where a HUGE Pure Romance banner magically appeared. I guess the woman who had owned the car before us had had a big decal on the back windshield that left some kind of residue behind. We looked up the company and my husband definitely did not want to be driving around with people thinking he sold for Pure Romance! We tried so many different cleaners and solvents and could not get the residue to come off so we finally had to take it back to the dealership, where they worked very hard to finally get all traces of the Pure Romance logo off the window! They were mortified. On another note, I've never been to one of their parties but they sound AWFUL. The idea of being taken into a back room to talk about their products.... And asserting that people "can't leave" without talking to the rep is insane. Who are they to tell me I have to talk to them before I leave? And yet I bet everybody does it because they don't want to hurt the host's feelings. Yikes.
It is genuinely terrifying to me how many parents get away with medically neglecting (abusing) their children. And how often its completely legal because as a society we view children as their parent's possessions/objects rather than full people who deserve to have their needs met no matter what their parents think about it.
Another point for the cat is not just neglect but many essential oils that are ok for humans in small amounts are toxic to cats.
Not to mention that the FDA doesn't approve the consumption of essential oils.
I’ve had severe eczema off and on for almost 40 years. My heart breaks for this child living with eczema without the benefit of medical intervention. 😢 I suspect she may not have had the staph infection the whole time. Severe eczema can cause weeping sores, which then become a breeding ground for staph infections to set in. The irony is that essential oils are a common cause of eczema, so her mother’s “remedies” were probably making her sick the whole time. 😡
THIS!!! I still have severe flare-ups... but as a child, my main spot was behind my ears, and they were weepy and gross.
No staph.. because my mother actually took me to a doctor to get diagnosed and prescribed medicated ointments and creams.
I can't even imagine how painful the essential oils would have been!
@@_.WildMoonChild definitely! Sounds like actual torture. I’ve had it on my ears, but my main spot is my hands. When I was a teenager, I would get weeping sores on my hands, which then turned into scabs. I hid them from everyone.
God yes, and because it's open and weeping, if you don't treat it it can get infected SO easily. i had eczema around my mouth in highschool that got infected with staph. There was basically a year where i couldn't smile without cracking and bleeding ans pain. My heart went out to this poor girl
With the Herbalife hun, I’d have been like, “well, first you fat-shamed me, and now you’re telling me that you don’t even have $10 to your name… sign me up, obviously!” 🤣🙄
yeah I would say "are you calling me fat?!?! are you?!!!!" and cry in over acting like an soccer player 😂😂😂
For real, I'd let her know I am recovering from ovarian cancer AND used to be anorexic before the giant basketball sized tumor. I would not even allow them to purchase ANYTHING, they can just leave immediately
It's not necessarily a horror story, but my lil' guy went Christmas shopping with his dad a few weeks back. He came home and told me that there was a vendor's show at the mall, and how they both liked the laser engravers boot.
I asked if there were any other cool things he saw, and he gives me a b*tch face and says, "no; just a bunch of fluffing MLMs!"
So proud of him! 🥰
That's a proud parenting moment.
I grew up in the South and good manners and politeness were drilled into me. But, I swear, if I was ever shanghaied into a Pure Romance party, I'd quickly disappear; just smile, wave and walk back out, lol. Pure Romance - bless their hearts.
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Australian here: Young living and DoTerra are RAMPANT in Australia, and frequent craft markets! The person in the story is lucky never having experienced this before 😂
That definitely is child medical abuse. How terrible. This poor child.
Definitely animal ab*se. I wouldn’t be surprised if the diffused oils were the cause of the cats’ lung infections. The majority of essential oils are toxic to pets when diffused in the air (learnt this the hard way after already buying a diffuser 😅).
Tell me about it. I'm not usually into scented candles but happened to buy a couple a few months ago. Haven't used them yet because more recently I got a cat and still haven't gotten around to checking whether those candles might be harmful to my fluff ball.
Story 3: how did a staph infection for that long didn’t turn into sepsis! Yikes!
Soap! Washing daily can prevent it's spread.
I've hosted pure romance parties for a friend before and they absolutely require a private area for sales! They make you have a quiet, private, clean area with a door. The rep sits in there and each person gets sent in there, one after another. Was so crazy and awkward.
I got invited to a "Christmas party" by my old boss, at her house. Long story short, I didn't want to go to a party the day before Christmas as I had stuff to do, and I had plans with my then boyfriend and teenage daughter. She suggested that I bring them, it's a Christmas party! You can see where this is going...
She did put on the printed invite that it was Mary Kay. Mind you, my bf and daughter would rather watch grass grow than go to a makeup party.
I didn't want to tell the owner no, so doo doo brains here showed up, thankfully without bf and teenager in tow. Yep, Pure Romance party. 😂 I couldn't look my 65 year old plus boss in the face for years after that.
I've been to 1! Only 1! After the awkward room encounter, I didn't receive my full order which I definitely paid for and when I reached out to the hun(who was high ranking) she never actually acknowledged the mistake and kind of said she would fix it. But to this day I haven't received the item she conveniently left out of my order.
Now me and hubby are well educated on the MLM business and avoid any and every invite to all the parties with absolutely NO fomo!
@@michelleprieur1 oh my God, your BOSS?! I'd be mortified if I had to pass around a sex toy with my boss. And a Christmas party, nonetheless!
@@michelleprieur1wait she said it was Mary Kay but it was actually Pure Romance?! This is so creepy. Ugh! You should send Hannah your story so we can get all the details! 😂
@@michelleprieur1 yikes! That's so inappropriate! And to ask you to bring your teenage daughter as well? 😖
There's certain boundaries when it comes to colleagues, and this crosses at least a few.
6 years with the same infection!?! Just NO! I give natural remedies 3-7 days, any longer than that and it's something serious.
Modern medicine is against my families religious beliefs. hearing the story of medical neglect it sounded so much like how it was for me growing up with eczema, TERRIBLE period cramps, injuries, panic attacks, self harm, sickness, etc and how I’m still mentally healing from it. I really feel for the person who sent in their story. I really hope the best for them.
And for you, too. I hope you're in a better place now and able to access proper care. ❤️
Sending hugs and support
As a fellow child raised in a religion that forbid treatment aside from prayer, I see you. We didn't get a choice, and now we have to manage the results of other's choices for us. It's a hard road to have to walk down, you survived your childhood, and now as an adult, we can be the adult we deserved to have as a parent growing up. Be well
What religion was this?
I’m in school to be a vet, and while I agree that some things in people can be helped with herbal treatments, please please please please please do not use those treatments on your pet without consulting a veterinarian first. Maybe even multiple veterinarians. Animals do not react to things in the same way that people do. Humans are very VERY tolerant to many toxins found in nature that our pets are NOT tolerant to. Things like tea tree, eucalyptus, peppermint, pine, and so so much more can make your animals seriously sick if exposed to direct doses of them. Or even just small doses in some cases. Pets and people are not as close as some people think, and so many animals have suffered because of that mindset
Thank you.
Nobody thinks about their pets when they diffuse oils, so it's really helpful seeing your comment.
I think people forget essential oils are very concentrated, it's not like bring the garden indoors.
I nannied for a family that, looking back, I should have reported. Similar situation with trying to cure ear or scalp problems with essential oils. One of the kids had a permanent bald spot from ring worm that went on too long. The other was having teeth issues bc the parents didn't have the kids brush unless the kids wanted to (they were like, 4 and 7). One got an ear infection and I was so relived when I finally got a text from the mom asking me about how I got my ear infections handled (I've had them a lot since I was little. Just always had ear problems.) When I tell you this woman was SO scared of medicine.. I told her the antibiotic ear drops the kid would be prescribed for the infection, that it has no side effects, and he should feel relief in a couple days. She finally did it (and the kid healed so fast!), but the mom guilt she felt...man. It was a messed up situation all around. I felt horrible for the kids and low-key for the mom too, who had been exposed to so much whack disinformation over the years.
My nannying redemption story is that I later worked for a family whose mom was a doctor. It was healing to my soul to see kids take allergy and cold meds 😅
I was coming here to say the “walking advertisement” thing is 100% a Herbalife thing, then you said it for me 😂
“Lose all your money while annoying all your friends, ask me how!”
What's despicable about this, is that people get screwed in these scams and STILL try to recruit friends and family.
Mary Kay encouraged reps to NEVER leave the house without being in full MK mode. They also had a tote bag with rows of clear pockets so you could fill it with sample products to get people to stare and ask about it.
Doterra encourages similar products and always carrying samples
That’s not neglect, it’s abuse. I hope this person finds peace.
Honestly, I would not be surprised if the constant use of essential oils directly on the skin triggered the eczema.
This Herbalife story is so familiar! I live in Australia and about 6 years ago I had a herbalife neighbour who approached me with the weight loss comment…the thing is I was already very fit and thin and had no weight to lose, I worked full time in a gym and had recently graduated with my bachelor of science degree majoring in nutrition…..whether she thought I had weight to lose or not, commenting on someone else’s body in anyway is not okay with me. I still see her to this day driving around in her car with Herbalife stickers all over it and saw her two separate times last week wearing Herbalife t shirts 🙃
Omgoodness a staph infection can travel to your heart and cause damage long term. This mom did medically abuse her and it’s so sad no one intervened soon. I pray you have recovered with no long term damage. I’m so very sorry for your pain and anxiety you endured❤️ may peace be upon your heart❤️
Essential oils can literally be lethal to cats. It amazes me that living in the information highway how many people have no idea how to play devils advocate and do their own research to make sure there isn’t a bad side to what they are so obsessed with. There is good and bad to everything. There is no “one answer” solution.
How awful for that teenage girl. High school is hard enough for that age group.
Omg, I've suffered with eczema my entire life and not having access to steroids is HELL. No otc or herbal remedy will fix a flare up and the worse it gets, the worse it itches. It gets to where you absolutley cannot focus on ANYTHING because you're just so uncomfortable in your own skin.
I cant imagine having to navigate that diacomfort as a child. And having that school clinic RIGHT there and being unable to use it.
This exactly happened to me! Pure Romance, early 2000s. I had no idea what was going on, but the friend I came with and I went to the private room together. We were told we couldn’t leave before we talked to the rep. So we went in there and she tersely asked what we were buying. We said nothing thanks, we’re heading out. She pretty much shouted us out of the room. We left, got outside, and started laughing hysterically. Like, what just happened? Its was bizarre.
It reminds me of the scene in Jane Eyre where Mr Rochester dresses up as a fortune teller and sits in a room so he can sneakily have a personal talk with Jane. Creepy!
The one I was tricked into going had that private room thing too. It made me really uncomfortable. I didn’t end up going in. I had no money!!! My friend who invited me told me it was just a get together. Why would I have money like that? Or if I did, what makes them think I wanted to spend it on that?! It’s my money.
Then the rep gave us papers to write down friends we know. I had none 😂. She tried to convince me how great I’d be at hosting a party 😂. No way. I know myself. Thank goodness. And I ran out of there.
My sister had a PR party for her bachelorette, eeeeeh. Talk about weird, buying that sort of stuff in front of my sister and her rather unsavory friends was just awful. I had to travel two hours round trip to drop my daughter with her grandma, then again the next day to pick her up. No way in hell wouldit have been ok to have my second grade child present at one of those!
as someone who has had weeping eczema on the back of my legs for several years as a kid and now again as an adult i feel incredibly bad for the writer of story 3, the discomfort and burning must have been unbearable. and to put oils,salt, and honey on it!!??? awful
"tell them i said psspsspsspss" 😂
Story 5: had me laughing! Just a couple weekends ago, my husband and I decided to take our family to a little Christmas event in a nearby community. When we got there, we saw all the usual vendors. However, my 5yr old yells, hey mom! Look at that! You should get one. I look to the stall and to my shock, it was a Scentsy rep. The lady smiled at me but before she could talk, I moved my family away as I said that’s an MLM and I choose not to support them. My husband couldn’t help but stare at the lady who now stared at us. No pitch no issues = a wonderful day
Hi Hannah, I don’t know about any other company’s car programs, but I do know MARY KAY‘s in depth. I worked for the corporate office for 21 years. Before everyone hates me, I did not understand the damage that I was helping to propagate until about a year or two after I stopped working for them. I truly felt in my soul that I was helping people. Anyway, the car program is not a purchase… At least not with MARY KAY. When you “win“ a car, you are earning the use of that car. MARY KAY leases it and insures it as long as you keep your numbers. If you drop your numbers one month, you have to pay for certain things like the lease and insurance which MARY KAY is still paying but they’re taking it out of your commission and then if you continue to not hit your numbers… You lose the car entirely. You are then offered two choices: turn the car back in or you can buy it from MARY KAY. I hope this helps in someway.
That one with the daughter with the medical issues is so frustrating. I really hope she's doing well now, and healing her heart. It's so difficult to hear about parents like that, because all I want to do is shake some sense into them.
There's quite a few essential oils that are harmful to animals. If you use an oil diffuser in the house, make sure they're oils that are safe for pets. A lot of those diffusers are sitting at levels close to their heads so they may get a bigger dose of those oils than you do.
This is super random - but sometimes I wish your horror stories were posted as podcasts on spotify 😆 because your voice is so soothing that it helps me sleep, but the RUclips ads always wake up back up. Anyways, love your vids !
I just adopted two littermate kittens to keep me company while I work from home. I partially blame your videos, making me miss having multiple cats in the house. Thank you for your content, I appreciate your efforts to expose what these companies do to people!
My dumb butt read it as "two illegitimate kittens"
Just thought I'd share because it's funny
Yay! Congrats on your illegitimate kittens! LOL
I've seen people get random texts from someone they barely know or knew a long time ago pitching some weight loss product from an MLM. The sad thing is that they end up texting people who have ED or are struggling with ED recovery and trying to gain weight. This is a new form of how people would stuff an advertisement about a weight loss product into a stranger's mailbox with some like "I thought you would be interested in this" written on it, making someone think that someone you know put it there. Like someone you know is thinking that your so huge that you need a weight loss product. It's so gross.
Wild to hear an Australian say they’ve not seen MLMs in the wild, it’s definitely not as widespread here as in the States, but my mum spent most of the 90’s being invited to MLM parties, and I’ve had a couple of brushes with them myself. Maybe I should send in a horror story…
I think a lot of Australians don't know companies that actually are MLMs - Tupperware for example, we all know it, but many might not know its an MLM
Also appetite suppressants can seriously worsen anxiety
Lots of people buy into MLM’s when they get their retirement money. I’ve encountered plenty of people in their 60’s and 70’s doing MLM’s
Living with a staph infection for six years sounds like hell. That poor girl
I grew up exactly the same way as Story 3 and now have Illness Anxiety OCD and can not eat ANYTHING without crippling fear of food contamination. I can’t function without medication, but I’m scared of medication because I was told all my developmental years that medicine was evil.
I am waiting for studies and literature about the long term impacts of this specific type of childhood trauma, it is extremely common in my age group specifically (right alongside/after the vaccine autism scare, funny that). Parent’s being told that medicine is evil and their children touching plastic will give them cancer. It’s ALL for profit on the part of the companies that preyed on them, and MLMs played a massive part in it. The parties responsible will never be held accountable, and it’s all on our shoulder’s to bear the consequences of that type of childhood.
I am so mad for the kids and the dog in the medical negligence story (and abuse in my opinion) I think that we cannot only blame the company in such situation, the parents were to blame first.
My go-to answer when mlm-ers try to sell me stuff is "I have no money, I'm poor. 😂 It makes them feel uncomfortable so they leave me alone. In reality, I am very particular about what I buy and use, and I'm not easily swayed by their pitches or pity stories.
I was an mlm hun child. Spent years with severe anxiety and depression, only to be treated with the “calm” and “happy” oils 😩. Forget a cold, where the only option was drink on guard and rub peppermint oil on my hands as an inhaler. It’s funny in retrospect but not at the time.
Tbh, reading this still isn't funny to me. It sounds pretty dreadful and I'm sorry you had to go through it. I hope you're in a better place now and have access to proper medical care. 💕
I needed an anti mlm break, but I'm back and ready to snark 😂
On the young living story, not all MLM reps are young! My grandparents have been in Tupperware, a vitamin mlm, kangen water and are currently in Amway. In fact, they have been in Amway since 2018 and my grandpa will be celebrating his 80th birthday in 2024. I think older people do fall prey to MLM’s because of the entrepreneurial mindset they were raised with. The idea that they can have the American dream through how hard they work. In addition, being so close to retirement and possibly not having the funds to do so, while the mlm promises you can get there fast probably contributes to falling for the scam.
I can personally attest that people in their 60s get panicky and become easy prey for scams.
Fucking criminal. This makes me so mad!! They really should be stopped.
I approve high interest vehicle loans for subprime. We don’t take mlm income period.
I honestly get really mad about medical neglect of children. I live in a town filled with a "non denominational" made-up recently branch of charismatic evangelicals who are all anti vax and often claim that medical treatment is "against their religious beliefs" ... except for there is nothing in their actual religion that codifies that and they have no unified doctrine. Its all just a bunch of people who want an excuse to neglect their kids, who claim "religion" and move on. At least when catholics say bc is against their religion, it is actually against their religion. Or jehovas witnesses and blood transfusions. I still dont agree but at least they have an actual belief system. Soooooo sick of these people who just cherry pick BS pseudoscience to justify letting their kids suffer. Sorry, but if you claim that seeking treatemnt for your kids mental illness or infection is "against your beliefs" but if i ask your pastor and he says theres no teaching against going to the doctor, idgaf about your "beliefs". There has to be a line somewhere.
and I totally believe if one of those parents got sick, or insured, they will rush to the ER!! wth
@@gacktist00 absolutely. Half of the women have had cosmetic procedures as well. Face-lifts, boobs, tummy tuck. Yeah so godly 🙄 but meanwhile little Timmy can't be evaluated for autism and hearing loss and we are gonna treat his chronic lung infection with magic silver water.
As someone raised in Christian Science it is absolutley a religious belief to not choose medical care of any form! CS doctrine is all about healing without medicine, even oils and 'natural' remedies are not ok - because illness does not exisit. Most of the US's laws on parent's choice re medical care came from the Mother Church. 'Knowing Better' has a great RUclips video breaking down the whole religion.
@@kazpaz8729 as far as I know these people are not "Christian science", none of their pastors will claim there is any teaching against going to the Dr, and why would it be ok for mom to have a boob job but not for her kid to see the Dr? None of it ads up.
Completely unrelated but you remind me so much of my 11th grade English teacher. You're both so sweet and caring and obsessed with your pets, lol. My teacher had a little weiner dog named Truman and sometimes she'd put up her pet camera thing on the projector so we could watch Truman sleeping on his armchair while we did our work lol
Yikes. The behavior of that mother has me actually crying. It's so horrifying that a parent could be so unwilling to get treatment.
Here in San Antonio, we're over populated with herbalife reps and nutrition shops and they all wear the gear and buttons everywhere. Funny story: My old office, which I did functional medicine in, using a particular company for the products I use with my clients, was taken over by one of these nutrition shops. The company I use accidentally sent my inventory to the old office. I could tell the manager of the shop was annoyed as I am sure they looked up the company, realizing what I do. This happened twice and both times, there were absolutely no one ordering and these people looked so miserable being there. Especially knowing they're not being paid an hourly wage.
They do set up storefronts! I knew it. There was one at the strip mall near me years ago. From the window you could see a counter, a couple shelves with some product and a bored sales rep trying to find something to do. I think I saw a customer in there once. Good to know I wasn't imagining it.
Not from San Antonio, but I work for a closed captioning company that covers live events. For a while, we had the San Antonio local news, and one of the channels would feature local restaurants. One day they covered an Herbalife front and I recognized it immediately from the name and what the drinks looked like. I thought it was irresponsible for a news station to promote a shady "business" like that, but I kind of doubt they looked that far into it.
I have been to two MLM parties where the Hun met in a separate room for “ordering”. So I believe it is a tactic suggested by some MLMs.
I hate it when MLM reps try to make their display look like a local small business when they buy space at a craft fair or farmers market. People who aren't familiar with MLMs don't realize what they are supporting if they buy from them.
Ugh..the pure romance story reminded me of a nearly identical situation I was in..this was 2007 when it still went by the name “slumber parties”. I was invited as part of a bachelorette party, with the plan being to head out to bars and clubs after the slumber parties event. I don’t remember being pressured to join but we sat through a lengthy sales pitch, cringy games, then meeting the rep one on one in the host’s bedroom to order. This was way before I knew about MLM’s and WAY before content like yours. I actually remember having a good time but the sales pitch took SO LONG that we never made it to the bar. The girl would NOT SHUT UP! I remember thinking if this were my bachelorette party, I would’ve been annoyed that we didn’t get to actually go out.
I feel very privileged that I wouldn't even be tempted by a car bonus. I got rid of my car 7 years ago and never looked back. The city I live in has an amazing public transport system and it is so much more cheaper, faster, and convenient than struggling with a car on crowded streets. Luckily the railway network here is also very good so even longer distances are easy to reach. Never going back if I can avoid it. And for the small exceptions where I need a car there are cheap rental / carshare options everywhere.
You must be outside the US!
Herbalife is also operating in Poland where I'm from and the story about Herbalife rep reminded me that they do have the pins about weight loss or eating healthier or something similar. It also reminded me that Herbalife had temporary stand at a mall I worked some time ago. And Herbalife was for a time one of the official sponsors for the Polish Volleyball League (the male one and the most prestige one). Volleyball is pretty big in Poland, so imagine like NBA being sponsored by Herbalife. Oh, wait, Christiano Ronaldo, one of the best football (the proper one 😅) players is sponsored by Herbalife. Ugh.
"Whatever issues you have, Young Living will get rid of it"
Would it help getting rid of you?
I have psoriasis on my ears that is similar to the lady in the third story. My parents would be horrified at letting it go for YEARS. Depending on how bad it is, it can endanger your hearing.
On Netflix, there's a mini series called "How to get rich." The whole premise of the show is about a guy who helps with personal finance. Episode 6 has a couple where the wife is a Monet rep who has the Cadillac. She shares some insight into the finance side of the MLM and how she is now on the downpeak of the graph. She had 500 in her downline, and now she has around 100... very interesting insight!
OMG!! The story 3 is like borderline child abuse by that mom!!! How could she??!!!🤬
It's more than borderline! Staph can kill if it spreads.
I was invited to an Ann Summers party when I was younger, around 15/16 years old. I went along with my mum and older sister. I was told to try one of their vibrating products, over my underwear, so I could tell the group how good it felt. I declined but was pressured with comments such as "we're all women," "you don't need to be shy about it" and "you can go in the bathroom". I did go into the bathroom, pretended to use it and then came out, feeling embarassed and confused. Awful experience.
Wow that’s awful and embarrassing 😔
How wrong!
The writer of that first story gets an A+ from me! Well done!
I used to use slim and sassy from 7th to 11th grade for tea. Five drops in your cup stir it up and chug it down and repeat. My stomach is messed up now
Animals are allergic to a lot of essential oils so you definitely need to research it before even diffusing in the air. Our hedgehog passed away because i gave him a bath in a tub that my children used a tea tree bubble bath in. I even cleaned it in between but they're deathly allergic. I have to live with that.
I’m so sorry. Tea tree is SO potent!
OMG. "Chew a piece of gum if you're feeling hungry." I grew up on every fad diet in the 80s from the time I started growing curves after puberty. Gum makes me MORE hungry, and I hate it for so many reasons (one of the other big things being misophonia). And my relationship with food is definitely disordered.
The girl from the third story should not have needed parental permission to use the school clinic. It should be up to the student if they want to use it, should they ever need to.
It's all about liability
@@kristinabava8718 What about the liability of student being denied care they need because the parent(s) didn't give permission, as is the case here? That seems just as bad.
@Floridameerkat93 so I don't have kids, but it is my understanding that in the US parents have full control over medical decisions for their children under 18 years old. You can not provide medical care without the consent of the parent. So if they provided medical care, and the parent did not agree that they would have legal right to sue.
I am not saying I agree with it, but that is just my understanding of how the laws work surrounding medical care with kids under 18.
I do think that the staff at the school should have asked some more questions and maybe got CPS involved since the parents were neglecting to provide actual care.
But, we weren't there, so we do not know all the questions, or if that particular school would have been able to take any further action. It is possible they tried, and nothing came of it too.
I joined a BNI group last year, and there was an Optavia rep that had a bag that said “ I changed my life, ask me how” which she used to tote around all her flyers and processed food substances
RIP gallbladder, gone but not forgotten. I sympathize with that person, I had to have mine removed and my entire diet had to be changed.
I live in a medium size Spanish town, 75k people, and, sadly, I have seen a Herbalife sticker on a car in my neighborhood... Also Avon is pretty common
I live in the Netherlands. I don't come across MLMs that often and have only ever had "hey hun" style interactions with US Facebook friends, but there's the odd MLM around.
I've seen Herbalife "ask me how" badges and water bottles, seen some Tupperware and Scentsy booths, and have had the occasional colleague leaving a brochure for a brand of skin care I've never heard of with order forms. Looking back the jewellery/kitchenware/whatever parties my mum would grumble about were probably MLMs, and I've had a friend mention she knew someone who could host a "toy" party which didn't go anywhere after a few of us noped out after mentioning it sounded like an MLM.
Still, it doesn't seem as big of a thing here compared to the US. Or even the UK, where I encountered MLMs much more frequently compared to here.
Either that or my current circles are too limited.
I lived in the Midwest for 5 years (I’m not from this part of the country). However, it surprised me to see SO MANY MLM’s. I had coworkers selling all sorts of things from 31 bags, Origami Owl, Clever Container, HerbalLife, Tupperware, Young Living and Pampered Chef which PC is the only one I truly liked. I was in shocked to see every other coworker selling products and if one coworker bought something from the Pampered Chef rep and the Pampered Chef didn’t purchase anything back there was bad talk. I once mentioned to them that I just go to the store and purchase what I needed, their response was “it’s best you support small”. 🤦♀️ It truly is vicious with these MLMs. And every other person I met was a 31 consultant 😱 How many bags or lunch bags can you buy from so many reps coming up to you asking if you would like to host a catalog party or house party? 🤦♀️
Not me totally doing a double take when you casually called the 'gum trick' that my mom taught me as a kid 'disordered.' I love not even realizing that that of all things was something that I just believed and never questioned. It wasn't even special gum, it was a 'scientific' trick to get me through to the next meal. Don't have snacks, just have some gum🙃 This is fine. A lovely video as always! Thank you for your insight and compassionate view on mlms and their reps.
the whole “it can cure whatever you have” reminds me of those dōterra/young living moms that have “i have an oil for that” shirt or car sticker😂
Wow. I was very prone to ear infections as a toddler. The doctors were worried I would go deaf. And my mother took me to the doctors to get it treated each flare up.
Sadly, I can relate to the stinking as a teenager one. My mom always made me wear Avon deodorant because she sold it. I thought I just sweat unlike anyone else. But I stopped stinking when I switched to Secret (which totally makes sense since it has more of the active ingredient.) It really sucks that I just smelled awful and had sweat marks on all my shirts for years. I wonder if I’d have had more friends if I had been using a deodorant that actually worked all along.
Perfect timing. I was trying to figure out what to listen to while I did laundry.
I've definitely seen plenty of MLM products in Australia. I've seen Doterra diffusers, Scentsy...somethings, there's a probably Herbalife shop near me, I've been gifted Amway toothpaste before, and I've had a hey hun message from a complete stranger trying to recruit me to Lularoe.
I think the main difference I've seen is that there's less of a girl boss hustle culture attached and it's far less aggressive. I've never met anyone who treats it as more than a casual side hustle. Even the lady who approached me in a public swimming pool changeroom to pitch me a "business opportunity" gave up and wished me a good day when I said I wasn't interested.
i had to chuckle at Zeke getting his voice in early😸
I don't know about all states, but in my state, the staff in that clinic have an obligation to report her condition on suspicion of neglect.
Nurse here. I also saw the pdf from DoTerra and the retail price is almost $9 while the wholesale price is $11.33 & I believe that’s in USD so if I wanted this where I live in Ontario Canada I’d have to pay a little over $15 per pack plus taxes and shipping ( I did the exchange rate already )!
After doing the shipping & taxes it comes out to $31.86 & when I take that number to see how much each piece cost it comes out to $0.99867 so $1.00 a piece!
Aside from that, the danger in this is disgusting. You should NEVER swallow gum but in order to “reap the benefits” of said gum, you would have to swallow it just to absorb the “beneficial” ingredients!!!
I don’t know how these companies aren’t fined for speaking medically about their products as well as being charged because what they do is against the law, at least where I live & I think they really grab onto loopholes to avoid liability!
As a human but especially as a medical professional this infuriates me to no end. Stay safe and have a great day folks! ❤
When I was in YL, my spline bought so much but they own a small pet boutique and sold it there for a profit. A small profit but still and then recruited that way. That's how I joined YL but got out shortly after when I realized I couldn't justify spending so much on product I didn't need.
I know that this is a video about MLM, but for me the part about a teenager who couldn't get medical help is more triggering. I'm not from the us. So is it really the case in the us that almost an adult can't get medical help without the consent of a parent or a legal guardian? What about urgent and life-threatening cases? And who decides on urgency and the level of seriousness?
I feel like the school wasn't doing enough in that situation and they should've done more to get medical help for that girl.
The Young Living one from Australia reminded me of what happened to me recently. My sister and I went to a monthly market near Toowoomba QLD. Doterra rep had a stall at a local marketplace. I steered my sister away from that stall thanks to your videos. She didn’t have much product on display but my guess was she was looking to start up a conversation with someone.
To add to the story about the pure romance rep who helped host an “engagement party”, I’ve seen a gross tactic where they have the bride put together a “gift list” or gift registry of some kind through the MLM rep, and if the guest at the end of the party says “oh I’m not going to buy anything” they try to get them to buy a “gift” for their friend instead, and present the guest with a list of things that friend supposedly wants. I’ve even heard of this happening without the host’s knowledge, where the rep just takes it upon themselves to insinuate that the host “was wanting this” or “was looking at this item”.
I've overheard coworkers say they would rather wait for two weeks for illnesses to resolve themselves than go to the doctor because they distrust doctors. People like that are prime MLM targets.
And all this is the result of our crappy healthcare system in the US.
Ugh the whole essential oil story sounds exactly like a couple people I know 😢 and I can’t imagine the damage it’s doing to their kids because they are always doing different diet cleanses and parasite cleanses
If I saw someone as a walking billboard for an MLM, I’d go the other way. Eye contact is dangerous with them.
I lost my best friend to family health conspiracies. It got really bad around Covid-19, as you can imagine. It’s disturbing knowing what she was told growing up and how it plays into who she is now. I hope she finds a way out 😢
Salt!! On an open wound!!!!! 😢😢😢😢
It makes me sick the abuse people go to with oils. And I am a huge lovers of animals. And there are a LONG list of oils that are SO dangerous for pets. And it makes me so sad that people don’t take care of the helpless babies. 😢
As someone with a nickel allergy that did that to my ears and it's horrific 😢
I had an experience at a candle MLM party. The party was light and fun, we had refreshments and music. I noticed people were being singled out and brought to the host and this woman. The vibe given off by the group was very uncomfortable. It was almost like someone was being tortured, the vibe was so bad. Soon it became my turn. I was soon being pressured to buy some product. It was super expensive, and I was working two jobs. The only way out I could think of was to run away. This is what I did but there was an issue. I didn't drive to the location myself and my ride was still in the party. I walked back inside to make her aware that I would be waiting for her outside or if needed I could call for another ride home. My friend apologized to me (I didn't know the host and she didn't know what kind of party it was) and we left. My friend got in trouble with the host because we left before my friend was pitched. Her friend constantly badgered her to join the opportunity. I know she bought some candles but never joined the opportunity.
Thanks first story - I can’t get the little mermaid songs out of my head now 😂😂😂
As much as I love the kitty appearances - every single video I watch I have to stop and see what on earth my cat is moaning at - it’s not him - I never learn 😂😂😂
Lol I just did the same! It gets me every single time
Regarding the third story, one could argue that not only the parents, but many adults and teachers failed the sender. That teacher who contacted the school nurse did a great job, but I cannot believe this went on for so many years without an adult asking questions or reporting it. I know CPS isn't always the best solution, but they exist for a reason. It's sad but it is kind of a miracle the sender, their family and their pets are all alive, untreated infections can lead to sepsis and there's no coming back from that.
Everyone thought it was eczema.
English is not my first language, so listening to someone so well spoken is just music to my ears! I know it’s not the point of your videos but thank you for that extra cherry on the top of good content 🤗