From Magic to Religion to Science: What's Next? Dean Radin
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- Опубликовано: 21 ноя 2024
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Humanity's first grasp of reality was based on a magical worldview. Over millennia, magic evolved into a multitude of esoteric and religious ideas. Within the last five centuries our worldview has settled upon science as the arbiter of truth. Each of these major transitions has offered more comprehensive explanations of the natural world, but each new paradigm also suppressed useful elements of previous worldviews. Based on the historical record, as well as a growing body of new experimental studies, we can now gain a glimmering of what our next grasp of reality may look like, along with its pragmatic consequences.
Dean Radin, PhD (Psychology, University of Illinois), has been Senior Scientist at the Institute of Noetic Sciences since 2001. He previously held appointments at Princeton University, University of Edinburgh, Bell Labs, and SRI International. Author or co-author of over 200 technical and popular articles, he has also written several books including the bestselling The Conscious Universe (HarperOne, 1997), Entangled Minds (Simon & Schuster, 2006), and Supernormal (Random House, 2013).
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Dean gives the best talks. He's such a levelheaded and pragmatic guy, you've gotta admire his patience. Decades of pointing out evidence to a community which actively rejects any possibility of ESP on principle. I'm very grateful to him for not giving up years ago.
ikr, and to whose benefit they are ignoring the data? (meaning mainstream science) This is meant for the benefit of all, because that is the nature and the potential ability of everyone. It seems the ignorance of a dogmatic religious polarity resulted in a quite strong counterpart of the same dogma but on the side of materialism. But science really is not about materialism at all, it is all about avoidance of dogma and an open mind. Fortunately we get more and more scientists each year that are willing to look and ponder and go beyond the dogma.
ESP and Quantum mechanichs can join, but ESP would be random and impossible to be forced or did on purpouse...
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I agree with you in part. But being a clinical astrological researcher for the past 30 years, I can say that I can read in the birth map which parts of someone's brain are more developed, whether there are right-brain capabilities, or strengths. This is the problem with psi testing: not all human beings have the same capacity to develop these psi skills. Hoping to have some of my book series out this year, and I'll be sending a copy of the volume on this to Dean Radin. I greatly admire his work and courage. I'm hoping to change some minds about Astrology as a science, as Astrology is a language for consciousness and frequencies, but not all astrologers use it that way.
You can go for an explanation that this is viable and exists, i'm going for a demostration, empirically of what can or can't exists due to a Qm+G theory of everything.
Astrology as a science, is scienscefictional...
A really smart guy BUT even more a guy that can think outside of the box. That's rare and precious.
Dean's book Supernormal is wonderful. It gave me the confidence to explore psi, and it allowed me to do it without feeling foolish. Scientists like Radin, Charles Tart, and Russell Targ are so important to the development of human acceptance of these phenomena.
I just bought the first book! Cant wait to finish it and get the others!
I feel so guilty that I actually haven't read ANY of Dean's books, because I feel exactly the same as you about him. As well as Targ, Tart, Stewart Hameroff, Andrew Peake (you get the idea, lol) in high school I always had such an interest in all things psi related, but I never allowed myself to get too caught up in the idea, because I was always taught that it's nonsense. Through my own research of quantum physics however, I eventually discovered these very intelligent men who had made this their life's work, and that is what gave me the confidence as well. It's changed my life in such a profound way. Upon graduation from high school, I was heading down quite a destructive path but it's been the work of these people that has allowed me to have this amazing spiritual awakening and has taught me that there is SO much more to life than what we can perceive with our traditional five senses. And I think that gave me a lot of hope, and reason to be excited and in awe of my life. ♡♡♡ So, at the very least I owe it to Dean Radin to read all of his books. He played a huge role in saving my life, really :)
Don't forget Dr. Scwartz, Ed May, Rupert' Sheldrake, Dr. Mishlove, Stuart's Hameroffs findings with Consiousness etc. Hal puthoff just to name a few!
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Those are all great minds indeed.
Are you subscribed to Jeffrey Mishlove's "New Thinking Allowed" channel on youtube? He started a miniseries on that channel called InPresence. He uploads a 8-15 minute video every day in which he shares insights and personal stories about his life. I really love it. I feel like I've seen your screen name somewhere before, so I thought maybe that was what I recognized it from. If you're not already subscribed I definitely recommend it if you are into this kind of research.
Lacey Brown yes I truly appreciate & luv his channel, great stuff, indeed!!
The thing about "magic" is if it were easier; if we could use our will and mind to affect our reality with little effort...life would not be life. It would be just another dream.
Beautiful thought! Life seems hard and chaotic now, but it will make sense once it's over.
You say that like dreams are easy to control. What percentage of people have lucid dreams? Of those what percentage have lucid dreams on a reoccurring basis throughout their life? Of those what percentage can reliably use their will to become lucid on a consistent basis?
We actually can manipulate the events in our lives with our mind...
@@tommyapples8490 That is very true in my experience. Also, I believe where Dean is talking about terror he's not 100% accurate. When iT comes to investigating certain para-psychological phenomenon, and not doing iT out of terror, I believe actually your brain/mind knows people would use this in attaining power in a corruptive way. The more harmonious your nature is the more inner counsel from brain/mind you may be subject to, pending the probability of how much one is bound to interact with corruptive people.
Here's a thought about theurgy. iF you tell your spouse to take out the garbage and they do, you have exercised mind over matter.
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Dean Radin ROCKS!!!
Is it just me or other people also keep on thinking about all the things that Dean is talking about even before watching his talk?
Thats how ended up on this channel. Cuz I kept on thinking about how all things in this universe are just different forms of energy interconnected to each other.
Anyone interested about the same topic, hit me up!
Dr. Dean, Thank you for your books. They are easy to read and absolutely on point. I really appreciate that your academic presentations are available for free on youtube.
"21st century will be marked by quantum technologies which will very much like magic.
I would probably say not until the 22nd century.
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Being able to manipulate aether force
Science is real magic that wills nature by the power of belief in 'cause & effect', 'linear time' in order to protect our fragile illusory bodies.
This is admirable, but this is only one interpretation. I find it much more simple. There is a direct correlation and ration between the degree of simplicity within any system and it's raw potential kinetically We call any system that exhibits this "low entropy".
At the end of the limits of analysis, we come back full circle to raw awareness in it's most simple form. The feeling of being alive and present in your environment, and the "interconnectedness" to all that moves and is.
In other words, once we exhaust our pursuits of analysis, we finally find what we're looking for.
An empty mind. Empty = Simple = Potential.
The Potential...to realize your source of Potential and what drives it deep within you. Your Purpose. This is something that literally goes beyond all science. Because it's not tangible or observable. Science needs to be bridged with Psychology and translated into individual applicable and simple terms we can all digest and actually use.
What is the emptiness?
The real question is not a question of understanding, but a question of when,....we'll return to emptiness. Because the emptiness is 90 percent of reality and we have no clue as to what it is. We are only now making up terms for it like "dark matter" and "dark energy". The only reason it's dark is because we are not acknowledging that our own vision and thoughts and emotions fill that void...as the void fills us.
This is the Power we all Seek. Whether we are conscious of it or not behind all that drives us....and within it all realizing the ultimate safety and security of infinity and eternity of Life itself of which we are all Sourced.
Sara Shaw we are part of it. :-)
Hello Sara, I would like to have a conversation with you, would you be open to having one with me. I am stained by many colors-christianity, hermetics, magic, biogeometry, a master's in anthropology, purpose questions, a different body acquired through a spinal cord injury, a stroke, out of body exp., and 32 years of life...I'd enjoy talking with you...about this subject, (at least). Please email me at oioan.anth@gmail.com . My name's Oti.
Sara Shaw very seldom do I find myself unintentionally (let alone, if ever, with any intent at all for that matter...) rather should I say; unwittingly stumbling across a yt comment which embodies such powerful insight in the form of a statement or "hypothesis" if u will, which seems to make sense almost simultaneously with that amount of tremendous meaning and logical simplicity. That it leaves me impressed enough to actually want to clap in amazement at it's almost exact sense of accuracy.
"Belief is a modulator..." Never heard it put that way before. Faith is an actuator... YUP!
Wonderful topic and handled so beautifully. I was just sure that Dean was going to say that Shermer opened up the radio and did not find a little man inside broadcasting the weather - which really frightened him. Dawkins on the other hand would be too fearful to actually go that far....
Questions that provoke answers and new ways of seeing inspire enlightenment. The spiritual realm or effects on and by us is empowering and as unique as each individual who interfaces this level not validated by tools of science and a concept that opposes the religious power structures in place.
Its good to see alternative views getting an open minded exploration. Radin shouldn't dismiss the conjecture of some scientists regarding this stuff being real but not classically testable though. Scientific method leans implicitly on statistical techniques which are about getting classic (Shannon) information, but in the Quantum theory, they had to bend that around into new forms, to express things like quantum information. For instance I claim that a qubit can store 2 bits of information, but in a lab, I can never get more than one bit of information out of a qubit. So how can my conjecture be true? By using superdense coding, I can now prove it to be true, but only *out of isolation*, with another entangled qubit. But the lab setting where I was looking at one qubit *in isolation* couldn't produce the result. So things have truths in ensemble that are not visible in isolation, and that's an important place to look to understand weirdness.
But that is what Dean explained. He and others presented evidence that met all criterion and it was sidelined simply because of its subject matter. Trouble with science today it is totally beholden to funding sources. Objective observational, results data-based science is steered by a fundamentalist scientism. "Peer review" has a certain fascism about it now..
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Very interesting lecture. I will be looking forward to getting the book.
I just got the first book and its great!
The oldest witch in France, Hecate, said, in a fairly recent interview, that today what was most requested of her by her clients was revenge, sometimes even murder... It's simple: when you really want to know who someone is, what they are really worth, you just have to empower them and see what they do with it ... So yes, I have no doubt that the paranormal exists and this interview is interesting. But at the same time, the disastrous way human beings are accustomed to using power in general (which all human history bears witness to), I hardly dare imagine what would happen on this planet if everyone was developing superpowers! Other than boosting their egos and behaving like little bullies, I don't believe people would evolve into anything much more noble. So the notion of evolution seems to me very relative here ... In the same way that technological power has in no way made man himself evolve -not in the truest sense of the word. Yogis warn yoga practitioners for millennia against "siddhis" (powers), not because they are bad in themselves, but because the human being is an immature and self-centered creature, who does not control himself, who is dominated by his appetites and his narcissism, and that it is therefore at the service of his weaknesses, much more than at the service of his greatness of soul, that the "powers" are put most of the time.
wow well said.
Yes..this is spot on
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I love Dean Radin. Have to get that book. And I love the description of chaos magic, do it yself spells is my thing, but to clean it up for my subconscious I call them prayer spells. Kudos Dean !
So it seems like magic, Religion, and Science, are all linked together, through conciseness. but the key is (belief) for the universe to grant the magic. With that in mind isn't the D-Wave supercomputer a method enhancing these magical magnifications. through quantum mechanics?
I think it would be more accurate to say that magic, religion, and science are the same, not just linked together, basically religion was the new magic then science was the new religion, and now we realize they are all the same thing. Computers, even quantum computers, don't really apply here.
Excellent!
Thank you for this. Looking forward to the book :)
Great video
just got word that you endorsed our school of magick (it's spelled by nearly everyone who practices is seriously with the 'k', btw), the grey school headed by pagan primate oz. this video cost me the price of some new books and forced me to rethink my position that magick works entirely like science and that belief beforehand is not necessary, only observed results after the workings. tks! /guy aka silverlocke, proud graduate of the gsw. bb /s~
Interesting talk. At 21min50, Dean Radin says : "Magic works if you believe in it". For skeptics, that means magic is no more than placebo effect... Another point of view would say that magic is precisely the placebo effect. By the way, have any answer from frontiers' editorial board about the retracted prediction of mortality research ?
He's not saying that belief is the ONLY thing . . . but that's it's one NECESSARY thing.
What I understand is, when we believe in something, everything in us, and everything around us (the universe) will somehow respond to it and actually make it really happen.
The Mind Explorer The placebo effect is highly underrated.
What we seem to be learning is that the mind has an effect on reality - sometimes a tiny effect, sometimes maybe a large effect. This means that it's impossible to be 100% objective, which presents a difficulty for how science has normally been done (it assumed the mind had no effect on reality at all).
The placebo/nocebo effect is very underrated. No he was saying that the mind has an actual measurable effect on reality, but you must believe that you can do it. No belief means you will be unable to change anything and unlikely that you will even try.
Would love to hear this guys opinion on the placebo effect in more detail
Good presentation Dean! You looked at the audience and the speech was flawless however next time quote all your images in your power point at the end at least. 2+
What strange weird and inappropriate laughter in the background. Its like something from a David Lynch movie. Some kind of strange repressed phenomenon I guess which comes from society being so blocked in this whole area?
As far as I can tell, they were only laughing at the jokes.
I thought the same thing until I recognized they were laughing at the images he appealed to for illustrative purposes
Science is all about predictive power of a given phenomenon so as all have some baseline understanding of the OUTSIDE world to talk about it. This here is about the INNER world and it’s OK but if the subjective experience takes precedence then get ready for the world of ambiguity and misunderstandings :)
So true.... Clowns aren't right.
Quantum physics + quantum spiritual = 5th dimension 🎉🎉🎉
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i think if you were to understand the scientific explanation of theology, then your concepts about consciousness would be quite clear. Kindly read my article and enquire more on the subject. Thank you.
Funny thing about all this stuff in life, we call living. It's all magic for our amusement. We think we know what's going on...We Don't!
La doyenne des sorcières de France, Hécate, disait, lors d'une interview assez récente, qu'aujourd'hui, ce qui lui était le plus demandé par ses clients, c'était la vengeance, jusqu'au meurtre, parfois... C'est simple : quand on veut savoir réellement qui est quelqu'un, ce qu'il vaut vraiment, il suffit de lui donner le pouvoir et de voir ce qu'il en fait.... Alors oui, je n'ai aucun doute que le paranormal existe et cette interview est intéressante. Mais en même temps, vu la manière désastreuse dont les êtres humains ont l'habitude de se servir du pouvoir en général (ce dont toute l'histoire humaine témoigne), j'ose à peine imaginer ce qui arriverait sur cette planète si tout le monde développait des supers-pouvoirs ! A part faire mousser leur ego et se comporter en petits despotes, je ne crois pas que les gens évolueraient vers quelque chose de beaucoup plus noble. Donc la notion d'évolution me semble très relative ici... De la même manière que le pouvoir technologique n'a aucunement fait évoluer l'homme lui-même -pas dans le vrai sens du terme. Les yogis mettent en garde les praticiens du yoga depuis des millénaires contre les "siddhis" (les pouvoirs), non pas parce qu'ils sont mauvais en eux-mêmes, mais parce que l'être humain est une créature immature et égocentrique, qui ne se maîtrise pas lui-même, qui est dominée par ses appétits et son narcissisme, et que c'est donc au service de ses faiblesses, bien plus qu'au service de sa grandeur d'âme, que les "pouvoirs" se mettent la plupart du temps.
At Berkeley they took a sea worm and sensed its neurons firing with entangled particles. When that is entangled with the D-wave computer and a human brain is substituted for the sea worm. The 2 parts crystal 1 part conductor of nano size with entangled particles in the the Chrystal allowing the sound of the enviroment of the brain to map out unique brain patterns . The Mind is read from any where, perfectly. nanobugged the book to live.
What an amazing scientist! Unfortunately, the science community is stuck in its dogmas. Someday we will look back and laugh at our contemporary mindset as we laugh at some medieval ideas.
A deeeper understanding of the quantum and the meta physical. That’s where you will find the fingerprints of god for sure.
Dean Radin is fantastic. Thank you. As a tangent, Dr. Radin read a quote that had the term "sea change" in it. Did you ever wonder where that came from? It seems to be something that caught on, and a lot of people use it. Not complaining about Dr. Radin. Was just wondering out loud about that term.
Science does advance...one funeral at a time. (After Max Planck ) So how old is Dawkins now? Krauss?
What's next? Consciousness "In-Itself". Not new. Goes back to Aristotle's "Being-In-Itself", the Buddha, Plotinus,, etc, and is the Substance of Spinoza and the Omega point of Chardin. To bap into the Omega Point and merge with it, no problem. Access "Mahamritunjaya mantra - Sacred Sounds Choir" Listen to it for 5 min per day for at least two weeks and merge with IT (eventually).
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Wow, they retract the paper but won't say why. Says a lot. Dean is s standup guy. There are many better videos than this out there on him.
People have a snooty way of saying its not magic or its not supernatural, how even you want to define it, its supernatural because its not something most people understand or know to be normal, its natural in a way that its a force thats already hear and sone people know the way to use this" force" to manipulate outcomes in thier lives.....so it is magical and supernatural......if you dont believe in it, its not going to work for you...its your honest belief in your" magic" that will allow you to use it!
It's alchemy
If you take a picture with three people in it, I can guarantee you with 100% accuracy that all of them will die.
Left out Meme magick !
its so primitive yet people are so quoting ancient text all the time in science like time or energy.
I tried to buy the book Magic referenced @15:57 but it seems to have disappeared from Amazon... Where else can I buy it?
It didn't disappear . . . it hasn't been published yet.
Having a religious symbol is nat superstizione, is simply appartenence.
Belonging to a group that is superstitious?
Ouch! Please look up the right definition of theurgy. It is not the same as necromancy.
he doesn't say they're the same, here necromancy is an example of theurgy
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lmao "richard dawkins who doesn't like anything"
Is this guy a phd? When i google him they dont metion that ...
master's degree in electrical engineering and a PhD in educational psychology
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The Bible states Jesus did more *Magic & only a few are mentioned do to space. *Magic *Miracles or what ever you want to call it. Jesus did his Miracles to show peeps that he was G*D.
Al this abstract mystical stuff make no sense to someone who never had mystical experiences. If you tried psychedelics then it will make sense to you.
I completely agree, I didnt even need psychedelics to experience it, and this knowledge has helped me a lot in my life.
I've long been searching for reports of people who had veridical (!) experiences of clairvoyance or psychokinesis while using psychedelics. And on the other hand I say: clairvoyance, psychokinesis and mediumistic experiences, that is, the three sorts of magic Dean talks about, make perfect sense to people without the use of any psychedelics.
I've done a lot of psychedelics, and I've also been a meditator. This "abstract mystical stuff" will make a hell of a lot more sense if you meditate compared to dropping acid.
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If magic existed, someone would have claimed the $1,000,000 prize offered by James Randi for like 50 years
All of u don't get it. You're trapped in a dogmatic mind.
So, Dean, what are you trying to do with your
lecture? To what extent should we change our
thinking? In everyday life? Ok, first buy your
books. But otherwise? What do you have in
mind? You could also work in a bank. So
what drives you into this controversy?
@Walterpeck fair enough
A true scientist is driven by truth, not money. He can of course work in places where he is heavily paid, but he won't be able to do things he believes in. The organization he currently works in is well aligned with his mission.
If God really exist he made a heck of a lot of mistakes. The most stupid argument in favor of religion is when I hear that God is good when something good happen but those people ignore when something bad happens. So God isn't exist.
james namdarick Eastern religions never say that 1) God created anything and 2) any event is good or bad, it's our judgement or survival agenda that can interpret anything good or bad (which is not necessarily bad but it's not ultimate/absolute).
We are his dream.
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Dean Radin is a liar.Claims to bend spoons with his mind.I thought he was interesting until he started making crazy claims.
may i know why u dont believe it? im just curious.
john kennedy, I have been following Dean for a while, and I have never heard him make such a claim. What's your source? Based on everything I've ever heard him say, spoon-bending sounds like the last thing that he would claim to be able to do.
john kennedy Not really, his claims are backed up by evidence. I've never known him to make a spoon bending claim.
It's all just energy.
where does he claim to bend spoons with his mind?
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